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Road to the Draft · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, I am Curtis
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  Wilson, I'm Brian Siegel buddy. We live on a Wednesday night how
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  you feeling back on hump day things had to be moved around a
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  couple weeks ago for David Cunningham.
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  We went to a Thursday but we are back in our regular slot and we
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  got a big lineup tonight, Brian. Yeah, we're talking spring game
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  later. Giving it a little preview of
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  that. But before we get there, We got
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  a big guest on tonight. Defensive tackle for the Hokies
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  we got none other than Jordan Williams.
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  I'm gonna go ahead and bring him on here.
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  Jordan, how you doing tonight? Doing good.
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  Are you guys doing doing real good?
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  Doing real good tonight, man? It's Wednesday back after the
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  week is here, spring game week. Bryan's head down.
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  We know you're back in the Burgh.
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  Already management all over the country to last few days.
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  But you know, Jordan, let's start here, man.
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  You went to cots High School down in Virginia Beach.
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  Tell us a little about your about a bit about your
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  background there and kind of lets go back to 2016.
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  It was some talk about your initial recruitment because I
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  mean you are four-star, top 150 player, I mean what 30-plus
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  offers this oh man so give us But on that.
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  Yeah, I mean recruitment was definitely wild for me.
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  I didn't really have like early you like as early as recruiting
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  as a lot of the other bigger name players in the state of
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  Virginia. But for me, I just kind of just
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  kept working and kept producing kept going to cams kept doing
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  stuff like that for me after a while.
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  It kind of just all, they all started piling up and I had a
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  lot of Great Schools, a lot of in-state school that wanted me
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  to stay home. A lot of big, big time
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  conference school, a lot of big-time programs offered me a
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  scholarship. So for me, It was just, it was
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  pretty hectic, you know, I was talking a lot over with my
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  family and it for me, ultimately, it came down for
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  schools which were Clemson, Virginia, Tech UVA and
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  Tennessee. And for me, I just, just after
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  all, a lot of thinking, and a lot of prayer and talk to my
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  family and things like that as if we just felt as, if Clemson
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  was the best all-around choice for me.
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  So I decided to go to Clemson for 4 years.
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  Had a great career there had Verbal career.
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  They're made a lot of made, a lot of great, Long Live
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  Brothers, all types of stuff, man.
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  And then, transferred to Virginia Tech from my last year.
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  And now I'm still, I'm living the rest of the story.
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  Now, there we go. There we go.
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  Sounds like that's a, that was a, it was a big process for you.
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  Who was the first like, first school to kind of reach out to
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  you and really show you some love.
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  My first, my first offer was Marilyn and I remember I wanted
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  to Marilyn camps and I got offered at the second one
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  because I know like a lot of guys that but got recruited in
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  high school. There's like the camps that
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  everybody goes to and then there's the in my cams that they
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  yeah they do. So I was there with a lot of
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  other big time recruiting guys and for me it was just kind of
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  like I kind of just encounter was a moment for me where I was
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  like I'm one of these guys now. You know what I mean?
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  Like I went from wanting to be a highly recruited guy to be in a
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  highly recruited guy. So for me, I got Maryland.
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  And then ironically coach Pride. Franklin.
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  No guys. At Penn State all from me,
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  second. Okay.
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  And it's okay that my recruitment kind of just blew
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  up. It was just, it was phone calls
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  every week letters, visits all types of stuff.
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  So it kind of kind of happen fast for me.
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  So, there's the Camp's you pay for and then there's the even
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  like a, we we talked about that last year.
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  I know. I kind of mentioned it.
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  How many total offers? Do you remember getting like oh
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  I want to say I might have had close to 50 like High 40s.
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  Maybe and I right in assuming everywhere west coast East Coast
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  north-south. Yeah, Westco.
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  I had a couple West Coast offers.
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  I didn't think I was really gonna get any because, you know.
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  Yeah, it's hard for a guy to pack up from the east coast and
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  move all the way out west, you know what I mean?
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  So, but I still had a handful of West Coast offers and things
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  like that. But yeah, it was bunch of
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  conferences, bunch of different programs.
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  It was hectic. I bet, I mean, it's kind of
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  crazy that you got schools east to west that was kind of just
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  sending sending you stuff and trying to get you to come out to
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  the cans and right, see what it's all about.
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  So you get all these offers the I know you touched on a little
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  bit but what really set Clemson apart from the rest of that
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  group. For me they were just real
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  people like Clemson like dry recruiting a lot of programs
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  that they'll tell you, you're going to come in and be a
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  starter day one or you're going to come in you're going to be
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  the man and things like that and really Basically when you're
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  when you're hearing those things it's like yeah that's what you
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  want to hear. But just being a realist with
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  yourself like a college coaches, telling you as a 16 17 year old
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  kid that you're going to come in and take a potentially a 23 24
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  year, olds players position, you know what I mean?
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  But for me, Clemson never really, they never promised me
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  anything and they told me that I was gonna have to work for
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  everything, they were genuine people, we had a genuine
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  relationship and for me, it kind of just it felt real.
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  So for me, that's Kind of what set them apart from everybody
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  else. Um I'm going to ask because you
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  mentioned your final four was VT your number 2.
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  BT was my number two, so Virginia Tech, definitely was my
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  second option. It was one that I kind of It
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  kind of made things harder, you know, being being home in
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  Virginia and then going to South Carolina, it kind of made things
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  tough. But for me, like going into
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  recruiting staying home, wasn't ever really a big part of
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  recruiting. Like it definitely played a role
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  but it wasn't like my deciding factor but it was definitely
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  tough. Going to go.
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  What six and a half hours from Virginia Beach to Clemson.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Oh definitely. For sure.
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  And like you said, getting recruited by so many people you
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  know, you gotta you gotta kind of find that fit for it for you.
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  I mean you know. Okay, so you get enrolled were
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  you in early enrollee or I wasn't how enrolled in the
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  summer camp, became wrong summer.
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  So all right, get enrolled. You get there in the summer.
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  What was the culture of the team in the field of community down
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  there, in Western South Carolina?
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  Because I think you wouldn't 16, they were just off the national
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  championship, right? I got this pain that just came
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  off a national championship and for me like, I got there and the
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  older guys just kind of took me in and, and then maybe one of
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  their own, you know, they accepted me.
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  They invited me places. Invited me to come work out.
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  Invited me to watch film with him and then just get a part of
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  like, the actual team because like, there's As a commission
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  period, of course, I freshmen come in and they're working out
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  with each other and then we first get into like our real
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  full team like workout setting, it just made it real clear that
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  like why Clemson was the type of program.
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  They are like it's a team that that that's really player lay
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  like the players, like they're the ones that are then telling
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  guys to come in and watch them, they're the ones that are having
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  extra work out. As they're the ones that are
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  setting up, all these things for guys to get better and gain more
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  knowledge, that for me, Like being a Freshman being excited,
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  being eager to just learn everything, is something that
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  you kind of just, you just get on board with, you know what I
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  mean? Yes, I got to get you kind of
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  like a sponge and soak it all in and try and definitely
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  definitely for right. Yeah.
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  And when you hear about like the player led stuff, I mean that's
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  culture because that really instills, you know, the Juniors
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  and seniors are telling you guys as freshmen and sophomores.
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  Take tape. Let's go get a workout in.
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  Let's let's hang out. And then as you get older it's
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  probably trigger. Like now I'm going to tell these
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  guys, and exactly, that's something that's That's
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  something that's hard to get in programs, man.
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  It's hard to build, you got to instill it from the top down,
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  everybody's got to be on board and Rowing in the same
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  direction, right? Most definitely.
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  So when you re Clemson, your position coach was tied Bates,
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  right? Mmm.
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  Correct. So we'll see your favorite coach
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  down in Clemson. Was it Brent venables, or was it
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  somebody else on that staff? Um, I wouldn't necessarily say,
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  I had a favorite, you know, I feel like every coach offered me
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  individually like Like different things, like a different type of
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  like each coach has something different that they try to
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  instill in me. And it kind of just like, like I
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  said, there was just a real group of guys like real group of
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  people, even the support staff. Like some of the ladies over in
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  like the student academic center and things like that.
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  Like, everybody just trying and still something different into
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  me and it kind of a lot. A lot of things stuck with me.
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  Some things I might have to hear again, but they definitely try
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  to pour into me a lot. And I mean, it's definitely hard
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  to pick a favorite. You know what I mean?
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  Yeah, I can appreciate that. I get that.
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  I want to ask this because we watch, you know, we're tech fans
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  but we love college football. We watch all the games.
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  Brent venables seems like he's one of the most animated guys.
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  Does he have a voice like when you're at practice like when you
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  hear his voice change tone you're like, oh somebody's about
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  to get it. Yeah, and I mean, it's kind of
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  like he's always like, Youkai you guys kind of call him
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  animated but that's just how he always is.
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  Like that's the only way we see him, you know what I mean?
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  So when when you hear them like coaching you up, it might sound
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  like he's like, he's like you getting on you or something like
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  that. But it's really like, it's just
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  him just being a coach is being called his type of coaching
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  style that he has. It's just it's just something
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  that you kind of get used to, but there's definitely a
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  difference like, you know, when you're being coached and when
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  you're being yelled at, you know what I mean, it's definitely a
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  big difference and it's something that like Like as one
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  of his players is something that you kind of like you catch onto
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  very quickly. I got you, I got you.
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  So let's let's talk about some another personality for that
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  Clemson staff, all a personality.
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  So this is just a question. I wanted to know about is the is
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  the Davos winning that we see in the media interviews, as he's
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  the same guy that you as a player, get in the locker room,
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  100%, I mean coach loony. Like, and I tell everybody that,
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  but like that's kind of the one of the most common questions
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  when coach when he comes up and like my experience that said the
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  same Guy that's in front of the cameras is the same guy that is
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  behind the camera. You know what I mean?
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  Like he's just he's a cuz he's another guy that just always is
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  at the same level of course when there's a time to be serious, he
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  knows when the lockdown and get everybody get everybody checked
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  in and know that it's something else like this is some serious
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  moment. But besides that, he's a goofy
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  guy. Always dancing, always smiling,
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  always talking, creating conversations, just wanted to
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  have fun. Just just a guy that he's like
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  when he's out there on the field, it looks like he enjoys
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  being out there. You know what I mean?
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  It's not like He's just walking around.
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  Observing all the time. Like he's making.
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  He's out there just making guys better just off of this energy
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  alone. Yeah, you definitely see him.
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  Especially their, you. They showing pregame he's
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  talking around, you see him. Slapping guy wasn't laughing and
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  joking. And like you said dancing and
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  yeah, so it's interesting or interesting to hear to snow
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  Dabo. Whoever we see, Dabo does Dabo
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  exactly, it's not for the camera.
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  You know, you were there, been there for years, got a national
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  championship ring, you went to numerous playoff games, you
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  played in some of the biggest games we saw every year, but you
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  decided to enter the portal. You know what, what combination
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  of things was it that made you decide, okay.
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  I've had a great run here, I love this place but I've got it
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  I've got to move on. Right?
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  So for me, my education was something that kind of played a
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  huge part in transferring. I graduated from Clemson.
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  So for me, it kind of was like a combination of me wanted to
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  finish school. There's a part of it where like
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  football is something I plan on doing long-term.
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  And for me, I feel like I was going into my fifth year as
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  loaded. I finished my fourth year.
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  Wanted to my fifth year wine at the transport portal and for me
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  like the NFL is something that I want to do.
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  And what the great I was getting back from from coach Sweeney in
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  the scallops and stuff like that with my years, where I was draft
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  eligible, I just knew there was so much left out there for me to
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  put on tape so much lot, more out there for me to improve on.
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  And for me, like, I just wanted to go somewhere where I had a
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  different type of role in a different type of different type
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  of snap count. I wanted to be able to get more
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  plays and continue to produce and put a lot more on tape.
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  So for me, you know we watch Virginia Tech on film a lot and
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  because we play some of our opponents, you know, being an
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  ACC and even like our culture sad was just impressed with how
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  their defensive line play. Just how disrupted they are.
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  How how I let it goes. Guys are how they just cause a
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  lot of disruption in the middle and make a lot of plays.
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  So for me, when I went into the transfer portal, basically,
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  everything I said about high school recruiting, it was that
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  like times to just because I had a shorter time frame to commit
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  to a school and things like that.
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  And More schools, reaching out. But for me, those were the
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  Virginia Tech Darryl. Tapp was one of the first
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  coaches to reach out to me. So build early relationship with
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  him and maintain that relationship.
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  And then obviously, you know, he went to the NFL to coach at San
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  Francisco. Yeah.
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  But if he did, Curtis is a Niners fan, so he is he as well.
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  Listen, I'm Darryl. Tapp we're all here, I'm
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  straight up. We had the opportunity to we
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  interviewed Darrell last year. And dude, I was the most
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  greediest guy you've ever seen. It's like, it's right that, you
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  know, he's our age. We got to meet him back at the
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  spring game. A few years ago, he was nice
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  enough with his kid, on his back, to Take 5 minutes to talk
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  to us and when we reached out to him to interview, he said, can
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  you give me may like it wasn't like oh I'll check.
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  It's like dude you could tell us like mixed bring like we will
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  say, yes. But you know obviously you kind
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  of I've already mentioned it. No, Darryl left for the NFL and
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  then they bring in JC price from Marshall.
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  We're JC and built eerily similar in their approach to
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  practice. Or do they did they kind of
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  bring different styles as you definitely brought different
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  styles and they definitely brought different styles.
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  We always used to joke around in our room and call.
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  We would call a link to brains and Coach Price the muscle, you
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  know, because Crisis, coming out there, he's gonna, if you mess
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  up, he's gonna tell you right then.
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  And there that you messed up. Mmm, coach lingo tell you, but
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  he might just tell you in film or after practicing anything.
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  That goes prize, he's going to let you have it right then and
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  there, you know what I mean? He's a guy that notices all the
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  little things. He's a guy that emphasizes just
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  having energy hustling, moving moving quickly, everywhere.
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  You're going to, and you kind of need that being out here kind of
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  explains the type of Kochi as in the type of impact he had when
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  he when he took over towards the end of the season.
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  That's awesome. That's awesome.
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  Yeah, I mean, you can definitely see like, just some of the
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  anytime you see Coach Price out there.
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  It looks like you can feel that energy, right, right?
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  You know, whether it whether its media, whether it's just like
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  quick steps that you catch on all social media, you see that
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  energy and you feel that that passion, and it sounds like he
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  brings that to the to the practice field to deafening
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  silence. Oh, that's cool.
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  So let's talk a little bit about about Coach am, was there a big
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  transition for you coming from Brent venables system and then
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  fitting into what coach an was doing at Virginia Tech.
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  I mean, for me at Clemson, we ran so many so many blitzes, so
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  many covered. It was just so much install that
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  you had to know that you had to learn each and every week, but
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  like I said, that, that player German culture, you know, like
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  guys are already learning it, guys are learning the next day's
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  install the day before, and it was just things like that going
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  on. But for me, going into the
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  transporter, I knew that if I could learn a system like Brent
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  venables, and I'll be able to go anywhere in the country and
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  learn to similar similar. System.
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  You know what I mean? Or any other type of system,
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  just because of how complex, and how much things we ran as a
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  defense at Clemson. What about hams personality in,
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  you know, energy level, because you mentioned grunts intense, we
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  know that and I don't know, can can be intense, but they're
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  sometimes, it looks like you was a little more.
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  He keeps his cool a lot more definitely.
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  You definitely speaks up a lot to US during practice.
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  He definitely has a big voice for the whole defense.
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  He gets all of us in line because I wasn't order game
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  days. Are kind of where he's a little
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  bit more mellow. You know, I mean, he's a little
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  bit more chill. Chill it out unless we make a
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  big play or less, we're messing up or blow a big carpet or
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  anything like that, but he's a lot more mellow.
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  But he definitely, you definitely has a strong voice
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  for our defense and our team. Also yes, so you had mentioned
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  earlier have I think I read it. I can't remember who put it out
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  there but you know the familiarity you had with with
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  Coach Fuente from your previous recruitment kind of played a
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  role in your room to Blacksburg as well.
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  What was that relation like for you and Coach winter?
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  Um, for me, you know, coach Fuente.
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  I'll never have a bad thing to say about him.
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  I know that there's a bunch of people out there, a lot of fans,
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  A lot of a lot of whatever you want to call it, but a lot of
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  people bash them and a lot of people can say and say what they
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  have to say about them. But for me, you know, I was, I
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  was probably at one of my lowest points moving Clemson, you know,
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  going into the transwarp portal, not really knowing what what was
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  next for me and Coach Fuente was just so eager to call me and
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  give me a shot and give me a chance.
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  And it for me, like, I felt like I was talking to the same guy I
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  met when I was 17 years old. So, he kept that same
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  relationship. He wasn't, he wasn't spiteful
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  against me because I didn't choose to go to Virginia Tech
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  the first time around. He wasn't, he wasn't upset with
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  me. He wasn't angry with me.
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  And for me, we just had a great relationship because I came.
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  I came in and I was just all about the right thing, and he
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  knew that he knew that I came there to be a guy to be a leader
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  to make an impact for that, for that team for the defense for
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  the defensive line for everybody.
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  And for me he just kind of he's a, he's a man that I always
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  respected. He's And that I always recognize
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  that gave me gave me a chance that that ultimately could have
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  changed that ultimately can change my life.
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  You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
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  You know you said getting that opportunity and I mean I love
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  you being candid talking about when you had enter the portal.
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  It was a low point because when you came here you know we were
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  as fans were excited because a lot of us knew the name from
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  recruiting and stuff and you know you played your butt off
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  last year man. You play this in a very again
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  another unusual. Well year, you played your butt
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  off. And let me ask this kind of get
• 20:22
  away from that because I could go down Road, man.
• 20:24
  But I'm going to try everyone Force.
• 20:27
  But, you talked about some of the cultural stuff in Clemson.
• 20:32
  What we're kind of the difference is, especially
• 20:34
  looking at the game to game prayer in when you Tech versus
• 20:40
  Clemson game to game prep, I know, we kind of had just four
• 20:45
  one, one of the main, Things I notice about as far as game
• 20:49
  prep, that was the difference as that Clemson we practice in like
• 20:53
  the later half of the afternoon and at Virginia Tech we practice
• 20:56
  in the morning, okay? Now you can ask who you want but
• 20:59
  after being in four years of afternoon practices, leaving the
• 21:03
  facility, at 8:00, 9:00 some nights, I'm fully onboard with
• 21:08
  morning practice. You know what I mean?
• 21:10
  Like, it's coming in going through practice just waking up
• 21:13
  and and, and just putting that time and for that little bit of
• 21:16
  time you're out there and then just going Home and being done
• 21:18
  with your dad around like noon. You know what I mean?
• 21:21
  It was just something that that I wasn't really used to but it
• 21:24
  was something that I definitely benefited me because I was able
• 21:27
  to have more time to get treatment more time to do things
• 21:29
  like that, but as far as prep those I mean every program
• 21:33
  across the country, you can go anywhere to any school, any
• 21:36
  level of college football, everybody's going to run their
• 21:38
  program differently and for me like coach coach funds.
• 21:43
  I know coach wants a mention in the interview like asking
• 21:46
  somebody and ask him something. I was, was I coming in there and
• 21:49
  like just did I notice a difference or that I like try
• 21:52
  and critique anything and for me like this, this is the program
• 21:55
  coach Fuente has been running for four years now, you know
• 21:58
  what I mean? Like I don't expect him me to
• 22:01
  come in and start changing how things go.
• 22:03
  You know what I mean? Because ultimately I can tell
• 22:05
  them how I want program is running, but Clemson is not the
• 22:09
  only program that's running by. He's they're not running a
• 22:11
  similar program. Everybody else like everybody's
• 22:13
  running a different program, a different preparation type and
• 22:16
  for me, It was definitely different but it definitely had
• 22:19
  its similarities as well. You know, like like I mentioned
• 22:23
  that we had a lot of player lead player.
• 22:25
  Led does a player like team from us for real?
• 22:27
  And I feel like a Virginia Tech. We were all kind of like really
• 22:31
  close. Like, for me, that was the one
• 22:33
  of the group's where I know like what the history of Virginia
• 22:36
  Tech a lot of guys transfer. A lot of guys transfer in a lot
• 22:39
  of guys, leave a lot of things, just a lot of things happening
• 22:42
  over the course of the season, over the course of a couple
• 22:44
  years, but this is like one of the most tight.
• 22:47
  Groups I've been around and is very player led and one thing I
• 22:50
  noticed is that the players respect each other.
• 22:53
  You know what I mean? Like, for me when I came in,
• 22:56
  brought Hoffman was not. I've said in an interview before
• 22:59
  brought Hoffman was one of the players that I immediately
• 23:01
  respected just because of the way he were just because of the
• 23:04
  way he, he was with the, with the offense of line.
• 23:07
  And the younger guys, just the way that the younger guys looked
• 23:10
  up to him. It was something that was really
• 23:12
  cool to see. So for me like that, that, that
• 23:15
  plays a huge part in, to a lot of a lot of teams Access.
• 23:18
  If you got guys that are like you only a couple of guys are
• 23:21
  out there and I everybody's out there and then only those guys
• 23:24
  are really like getting that that Advantage.
• 23:26
  You know what I mean? That's as opposed to a whole
• 23:28
  group being able to get some extra work and get some extra
• 23:32
  knowledge and watch a little bit extra film and things like that.
• 23:34
  So for me I would say like that's something that kind of
• 23:40
  surprised me you know just coming into a I'm a I'm a grad
• 23:43
  transfer coming into a brand new locker room.
• 23:46
  I'm wondering Our guys are going to view me like how guys are
• 23:49
  gonna look at me. I got sent me, are they gonna
• 23:52
  welcome me and bring me in? Am I going to be a part of the
• 23:55
  culture, the Brotherhood and things like that?
• 23:57
  For me just seeing how fast all that happened for me.
• 24:00
  Kind of just made me feel a whole lot better about my
• 24:02
  decision. Yeah, that's also, because I
• 24:05
  will say this, I noticed, like in Fall, when things were
• 24:08
  starting to ramp up like the camaraderie, you were having
• 24:11
  with, like, like James Mitchell and trade turning, like, cutting
• 24:15
  up during like interviews and stuff like that.
• 24:17
  Like, Like it definitely seemed like y'all really had like a
• 24:20
  that family atmosphere going on, pretty quick.
• 24:22
  Most definitely, it's all from the here.
• 24:24
  Alright, so it is the Friday before Labor Day, 20, 21.
• 24:32
  And you guys are sitting there in the locker room and it's
• 24:35
  about 550 and you start the walk.
• 24:39
  Just give us your thoughts and your experiences of that first
• 24:42
  one become those. For that was the first time Lane
• 24:45
  had been filled since the Last time we were there in 2019 and
• 24:51
  for a lot of people that was like the semblance of college
• 24:55
  football was back, y'all are already used out.
• 24:57
  The crowd was onge is give us your feelings walking down
• 25:03
  through the tunnel. Just for me, that was actually
• 25:08
  my first game ever and laying. I haven't been to Blacksburg on
• 25:12
  a visit even in high school for a game.
• 25:15
  I came for like a couple cams. Just some Doing business by
• 25:18
  never been in Lane Stadium, ever for a game.
• 25:22
  And I was going to be my first time and it just so happens.
• 25:25
  That is my first game at Virginia Tech as against a
• 25:28
  ranked opponent, the game sold out, like you said, we got the
• 25:32
  orange on, like it was just, it was just chill.
• 25:36
  Just something that I'll definitely never forget.
• 25:38
  And like, there's so much more about it that like, I wish I
• 25:43
  could say, I remember but it just kind of just happened like,
• 25:46
  being in the Don't like that. Everybody was asking like,
• 25:49
  what's it like what's it like running out to enter the
• 25:51
  sandman? It was so loud for me.
• 25:52
  Like I didn't even hear anything.
• 25:54
  I didn't hear the music. It just sounded like one big
• 25:57
  just noise as you ran out the tunnel and for me, like I was so
• 26:01
  I was just so eager, I was so hyped up.
• 26:03
  I didn't even know that. That the players jumped into the
• 26:07
  stands with the Court's order, I went and did it anyway.
• 26:09
  You know, I'm not first time out there, like, I'm gonna do
• 26:12
  everything I can do everything, right?
• 26:15
  And then we went out there and And there was also the game just
• 26:18
  spoke for themselves as far as the the hike going up into that
• 26:23
  into that moment. Absolutely, absolutely.
• 26:28
  That's awesome to hear and like you know, people make claims but
• 26:33
  I mean I still say there's no atmosphere like laying,
• 26:36
  especially when it's packed when it's a nice.
• 26:40
  When it's a big game, it's a great game like big game.
• 26:44
  Anytime it's a big game that plays just rocks like, None
• 26:47
  other. So let's turn into a little bit
• 26:50
  of you know a little more somber, note here.
• 26:53
  So you know it's been November. The team is five and five get
• 26:56
  the news coach Fuente has been removed as head coach Jacy.
• 26:59
  Price has been named interim, was this move a shot to y'all in
• 27:03
  the locker room or was this something where you kind of saw
• 27:06
  the writing on the wall as things were going into November?
• 27:09
  Um, For me, it was definitely something that we saw like
• 27:15
  happening in the near future. Definitely not on a Tuesday,
• 27:18
  practice going into a game that could make us Bowl eligible.
• 27:22
  You know what I mean? And every you can ask any
• 27:24
  college athlete and Tuesday, such a pivotal part of
• 27:28
  preparation, like, Tuesday's like a full padded practice full
• 27:31
  speed and sure like one day of the week, where you guys are
• 27:33
  really like, hitting each other and really like, getting actual
• 27:36
  game reps in and for us to be told this news before we go, Out
• 27:41
  on the field. It just it shocked everybody.
• 27:44
  And I mean for for Coach Price to Cusco we all of us heard the
• 27:50
  news at the same time, you know what I mean?
• 27:52
  So for Coach prize to get Heat coach prize came in when I did.
• 27:57
  So for him to get in and what was that like mid-January we
• 28:00
  both got in and mid-January for him to hear this news that he's
• 28:03
  going to be not only like he's not working with the defensive
• 28:07
  line along, but he's going to be the head coach.
• 28:10
  It was just something that kind of Just I know shocking for him
• 28:12
  as well, but as like for us as a coach, you not even just for us,
• 28:16
  but I as a coach like that, that heard the exact same news that
• 28:20
  you heard at the same moment, it's kind of like, what can you
• 28:23
  like? It's going to be hard to keep a
• 28:25
  team locked in when we just like, you know what I mean?
• 28:27
  When such a big changes happen in our in our locker room.
• 28:31
  So for us, we kind of just like I said, the leaders on the team,
• 28:34
  the seniors, the older guys, just trying to keep everybody
• 28:37
  locked in and keep them. Keep them focused on the task at
• 28:40
  hand, which was trying to be polite eligible by the end of
• 28:43
  the season. Yeah, and I can't imagine, you
• 28:46
  know, like you said, it was on a Tuesday when that happened.
• 28:50
  I can't imagine, you know, how I felt for you guys, because, you
• 28:55
  know, if it's, and I'm not trying to say what's right,
• 28:59
  what's right? Like, if it's done on a Sunday
• 29:02
  Drive of, y'all have a couple days to deep breath.
• 29:05
  This is our new coach. This is how we're doing things
• 29:09
  but to get it, like you said, like one of the biggest practice
• 29:12
  days. I mean, in, right before, Not
• 29:14
  after you know, that, that's definitely I give you guys
• 29:19
  credit because you're going out and you all played y'all's asses
• 29:23
  off against Miami. He'll be a real played your
• 29:26
  asses off against Miami. And, you know, came up short in
• 29:30
  that game, not for a lack of effort, but then the next week,
• 29:35
  it's, you know, the game for the Commonwealth cup.
• 29:38
  You guys going to Carlinville. What did it mean to you?
• 29:43
  Because they They had a you know you know what did it mean to you
• 29:48
  to go in there? In bring the cup back to
• 29:53
  Blacksburg for me. It was you, you know, I kind of,
• 29:59
  I kind of knew a lot about the Rivalry, but I didn't really
• 30:03
  like, just like going leading up into the week.
• 30:07
  I didn't really like, have that same hate life for me for four
• 30:11
  years. All, I know was the Gamecocks,
• 30:13
  you know what I mean? Like, just, I hate them, but I
• 30:16
  knew I had it on, like, I played there.
• 30:18
  I've, I've been able to experience their faith.
• 30:20
  Is and things like that. So for me like my first trip to
• 30:24
  Charlottesville playing them, of course.
• 30:28
  It was, it was crazy. You know, like getting there,
• 30:31
  just being in the hotel, not even on the field, you're just
• 30:34
  being a home. Like I hate these guys, you know
• 30:36
  what I mean? Like I had that same similar
• 30:38
  hate to him and like just seeing how other guys went about the
• 30:42
  Rivalry as well, like the height that goes into it, the real the
• 30:46
  real hatred Backyard Brawl type of type of game.
• 30:49
  It is, you know what I mean? I mean it's something that I
• 30:51
  kind of just bought it so you know I've never do my first time
• 30:54
  ever playing UVA. It was a moment where it made us
• 30:59
  Bowl eligible. We kept the cop, we allowed my
• 31:03
  first time ever being on a field that like, on an opponent's
• 31:06
  field that got storm by our fans that never happened to me.
• 31:09
  That's why. Yeah.
• 31:11
  So for me it was just a all overall experience.
• 31:14
  My first time ever. My first time ever?
• 31:17
  No, never mind. My first time ever.
• 31:19
  I was gonna say my first time ever smoked Cigar after the game
• 31:21
  but I did after UNC game. I got to drink out of the cup
• 31:26
  life for me. I'll told you I came to Virginia
• 31:29
  tag, learn a lot about the Traditions about the things like
• 31:32
  that. I had, I just felt like I had to
• 31:34
  experience all of it. You know what I mean?
• 31:36
  It sounds like you were just soaking everything in Old Time,
• 31:38
  right. Definitely.
• 31:39
  You know, during the game, it's kind of like it was, it was that
• 31:41
  type of game where how it ended and things like that, but after
• 31:45
  the game that's that's when you just kind of got a so-called of
• 31:47
  it in. Like I wanted to be one of the
• 31:49
  last ones off the field. And things like that.
• 31:51
  Just that's just a moment. That's that's huge for you.
• 31:54
  A moment that you'll always be able to remember and tell your
• 31:56
  kids about what was what was Coach Price in the locker room
• 32:00
  after that game because we got to see him on national TV,
• 32:04
  right? Almost bring most of us fans to
• 32:07
  tears, but what was it like in the locker room?
• 32:10
  After obviously, the own field celebration was Wild and Woolly.
• 32:14
  I'm sure they heard you guys. Lane Stadium, North Lake.
• 32:21
  Naco surprised. He was just he really just just
• 32:24
  made it a point to express how proud he was of us.
• 32:27
  You know. I don't think there was any team
• 32:29
  in college and all the college football last year that had a
• 32:32
  had to deal with what we had to deal with, you know what I mean?
• 32:34
  We had so much things going on in our program that that would
• 32:38
  like a lot was out of our control, but it was it was
• 32:40
  something that we just had to deal with and something that we
• 32:43
  had to take on and accept and work through every day.
• 32:47
  So for us to pull out a big game like that again.
• 32:50
  Against those that one team down the street, it kind of was just
• 32:54
  huge for us, you know, like there was something that like it
• 32:57
  was a moment where, like I said, all of that, that tight bond
• 33:00
  that I told you guys about it, kind of just, it made it all,
• 33:03
  like, seeing real. You know what I mean?
• 33:05
  Guys were hugging on guys, taking pictures with the cup in
• 33:07
  the locker room guys on the phone with their parents on the
• 33:11
  phone with all their friends and things like that.
• 33:13
  Like it was just a it was really a cool moment to be a part of
• 33:16
  and then I feel like just how it ended was just it made me even
• 33:19
  more better. You I mean like it was a little
• 33:22
  stressful it during the time but how I just how it ended.
• 33:25
  Definitely just made everything it just made the moment
• 33:28
  complete. Yeah, I mean, you guys had so
• 33:31
  many close calls in the first part of the season and then you
• 33:33
  had all the turmoil that happened in November with, with
• 33:37
  Coach Fuente stuff getting relieved there.
• 33:42
  I'm sure that was just like, all right, well, we got one, we turn
• 33:45
  it around. We finish the way we wanted to
• 33:47
  finish and we did it at our route.
• 33:50
  Owls field. And I just can't imagine how
• 33:54
  good the feeling that was after after the kind of the Way That
• 33:56
  season that went down, right was such a good feeling.
• 34:01
  So let's turn it this, I know after the season, you've
• 34:03
  declared for the draft during this process, where have you
• 34:08
  been working out and who have you been preparing with I want.
• 34:12
  So after I opted out of the ball game, I went back home.
• 34:16
  Spent Christmas with my family. Probably my first, I think it
• 34:18
  was my first Christmas ever being at home, you know, being
• 34:22
  in being at Clemson. We were always playing on.
• 34:25
  Like, we really didn't even get to be home for Christmas.
• 34:27
  We're always traveling and practicing during Christmas
• 34:29
  time. So I Have been spend Christmas
• 34:32
  at home my family, and then I shortly after that, I flew out
• 34:34
  to Fort Lauderdale and I was training at the gym called
• 34:37
  perform and Davey. So I trained there for three
• 34:41
  months. Got a lot of good work, met a
• 34:44
  lot of good people and after that came back here for pro day
• 34:50
  and since then I kind of just been, you know, just working out
• 34:52
  on your own just just work coming up with workout plans.
• 34:56
  A lot of guys like to go back to the facility.
• 34:57
  They trained a lot of guys just do.
• 35:00
  Different things. But for me, you know, I just
• 35:02
  been putting in work on my own. I've been in Florida.
• 35:05
  I've been, I've been here in Blacksburg doing some work and
• 35:08
  after I leave here for after the spring, am I plan on going back
• 35:11
  to back to Virginia Beach and doing putting in some more work
• 35:13
  just until the dry. If, you know, you just kind of
• 35:16
  want to just, just always say ready, just staying in shape
• 35:18
  because you just never know where your journey is going to
• 35:21
  end up at. How did you feel about your pro
• 35:24
  day down in Blacksburg? I know it was a ton of folks.
• 35:28
  There, how do you feel about No, it was exciting.
• 35:32
  You know, I definitely had the nerves, like, it's kind of like
• 35:36
  going into a game, almost, you know what I mean?
• 35:38
  Like it is and it isn't except like the guys that are the
• 35:42
  Scouts in. The guys are watching you there,
• 35:43
  right in front of your face at pro day.
• 35:46
  You know what I mean? So it just makes that market or
• 35:48
  a lot smaller but after you kind of go through, you're going
• 35:51
  through your first couple of drills and kind of just is
• 35:53
  really just you and you out there.
• 35:55
  You know what I mean, is you against yourself, you know, you
• 35:58
  know, this type of caliber player you are, you know, Show
• 36:00
  your abilities. You know, you know what you can
• 36:02
  do. And now all that's left to do is
• 36:05
  just go out there and do it regardless of who's around you
• 36:07
  regardless of who's watching. So, for me, it was definitely,
• 36:11
  it was definitely exciting. I feel like I was able to go out
• 36:14
  and display everything that I needed to display.
• 36:16
  A lot of the questions that Scouts had on me.
• 36:18
  I was able to go out there and really just display those things
• 36:22
  and show them that I can. I am who I say, I am, you know
• 36:25
  what I mean? Yeah, and the nerves thing that
• 36:28
  I think that's anything you care.
• 36:30
  Out of want it. If you're not nervous, then you
• 36:33
  know, it's like he's there any passion in you, right?
• 36:37
  That's, that's that's what, you know, that's what I've known.
• 36:41
  That's what I've always felt throughout my life because if
• 36:43
  you're you're nervous about something you care and when you
• 36:46
  care, it definitely shows up. We got a question here from
• 36:51
  coach Robbie Compton. Can you see that Jordan?
• 36:53
  Yeah, I can see it and if you could pick his team drive
• 36:55
  wherever you want to go, I mean I've always growing up.
• 37:00
  Always been a Redskins fan the Commander's now, but always been
• 37:05
  arrested as fan for me now though, you know, just being
• 37:10
  being older knowing what's going on.
• 37:13
  Like NFL. I want to go somewhere where
• 37:15
  it's nice and nice weather. Great weather year-round.
• 37:18
  You know what I mean? I'll be fortunate enough for
• 37:20
  whoever whoever pick me up. What would you ask me?
• 37:22
  Wherever signs, me. But if I had to choose, I'm
• 37:25
  definitely gonna go towards the Sun and towards the warm
• 37:27
  weather. You know what I mean?
• 37:29
  All those books. Traded down in Florida, you
• 37:31
  write one of those floor disease have minor in Florida.
• 37:36
  Since January, I knew you didn't like you went from the coal to
• 37:40
  Blacksburg and I know you guys were up in New York City to
• 37:43
  what, 75 and Sunny every day, right?
• 37:46
  All the time it was it was crazy man.
• 37:52
  So have you had a chance to talk to any teams directly throughout
• 37:57
  this process so far? Yeah, I mean, I've talked to a
• 38:00
  lot of Teams on pro day. I've had some interviews with a
• 38:03
  few teams after the process. I know that tie-ins the
• 38:08
  Chargers. The the 49ers are few of the
• 38:11
  teams but yeah, I mean this is always on the phone.
• 38:15
  Always talking to talking to different Scout always filling
• 38:18
  out, filling out questionnaires doing assessments and things
• 38:21
  like that. Like it's real process and its
• 38:24
  really getting down to towards the end where now we're going to
• 38:27
  figure out where we're guys are going to wind up at.
• 38:33
  So throughout the president you talked about filling out
• 38:35
  questionnaires. What's the weirdest question
• 38:38
  that you've encountered throughout those interviews?
• 38:40
  And those questionnaires there's a lot.
• 38:47
  I mean I feel like you're not really supposed to think too
• 38:50
  hard about them, but I mean there's some places where it
• 38:53
  kind of like I wouldn't say they're weird but the kind of
• 38:56
  questions that make you wanna like, second-guess, you know
• 38:59
  what that's like. Is this a trick question?
• 39:00
  Kind of question. Like, they'll just ask you just
• 39:03
  things that was but I was like one of the hardest things you've
• 39:06
  gone through and it's like you're about to tell a scout
• 39:09
  that you that that you never met that doesn't really know you
• 39:12
  like something that really like challenge you throughout your
• 39:15
  whole life. You know what I mean, by there's
• 39:18
  different questions. Like I know.
• 39:21
  One Scout asked me, who if there was anybody in the law?
• 39:26
  Anybody in the world, I could eat a meal with, like, you
• 39:28
  dinner with who Dead or Alive. Who would it be?
• 39:32
  And it's like, that's not a, that's not a weird question, but
• 39:34
  it's a question. Whereas like why I would never
• 39:36
  expect you to ask me that? Like, were your NFL scout ya to
• 39:41
  sign me to drive me? And you're asked me, who's one
• 39:44
  person? I would want to, like, have a
• 39:45
  meal with you dead or alive? Like that's just something that
• 39:47
  kind of for me, like it makes you think a different type of
• 39:50
  way. Yeah, you don't want to under
• 39:52
  think you but you don't want to overthink it either.
• 39:54
  Yeah, exactly. You don't want too much about
• 39:56
  it. You just kind of want to just
• 39:57
  just happen to have a name ready and just throw it out there and
• 39:59
  just be able to stand on its and fired by.
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  It's true. Those are those are the old.
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  Those are the old who's talking. It is my lungs.
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  I couldn't broaden know if your dog has slipped in the room.
• 40:16
  I saw the cat a few minutes ago, but those questions.
• 41:07
  So Jordan, you know, we're wrapping up here and if you guys
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  who are watching us on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, We Don't
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  underscore blessed underscore 23 on Twitter or J Will 12
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  underscore on Instagram? You know, our buddy who asked
• 41:48
  you that question. He also said, if you get drafted
• 41:51
  by the Commander's, he will buy your jersey.
• 41:57
  And you know, I only got one. 49ers jersey.
• 42:01
  If you get drafted by the 49ers, I got you.
• 42:06
  Taken care of. Yeah.
• 42:23
  But, you know, it was also in your Insight Man the best of
• 42:36
  luck to you, you know what the NFL stuff.
• 42:39
  But beyond that I think the type of person you are and it shows
• 42:43
  here tonight. Whatever you do next.
• 42:46
  I believe you're going to be successful in it man.
• 42:48
  Sir, I appreciate you guys so much and thank you guys for
• 42:51
  having me and just being able to tell a little bit about myself
• 42:54
  and about my journey. Absolutely, yeah, and I know
• 42:57
  Hokie Nation, appreciates everything that you did for 21
• 43:00
  coming in and being a leader on that team.
• 43:03
  And just, you know, the man Now that you are in the way you
• 43:06
  carry yourself. So we appreciate that and I know
• 43:08
  they do as well. Yes absolutely Jordan, you have
• 43:12
  yourself a good rest of your weekend but those who are going
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  to the spring game Jordans in Blacksburg.
• 43:18
  Look for him he'll be all around, I'm sure most
• 43:21
  definitely. All right.
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  All right guys, as we wrap up here with Jordan, we are going
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  Now back to the episode All right, in Vegas and we do had
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  graphic what you think? I told you yesterday.
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  Man Brian Brian doing a little handy work there with his
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  graphic design, good job babe. The live read was pre-taped at
• 44:13
  the old house. I was like, well, if I'm going
• 44:14
  to do this let's go ahead and and dress it up a little bit
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  more to have fun before we move on by other topics again.
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  We can't think Jordan Williams from joining us enough tonight.
• 44:25
  Night, great human being, great individual Braun.
• 44:28
  I hope you can connect with him over the weekend up in the
• 44:31
  Burgh, if you see. And, but, and that I tell you
• 44:36
  that, that story about that Tuesday, that's laying up.
• 44:39
  Yeah, I can't imagine that. Yeah, I mean, that's a whole lot
• 44:43
  of process while you're trying to, you know, prepare for
• 44:46
  against a rival opponent on the road.
• 44:49
  Huge huge. All right, so before we get into
• 44:52
  spring game, there are three things we are going to cover
• 44:55
  here tonight. Guys and first run.
• 44:57
  We finally got one in the boat. We got one in the boat.
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  Yes sir. And of course it had to be an
• 45:03
  interior offensive, lineman Lance Williams 64 306 out of
• 45:08
  Alcoa Tennessee, a three-star with additional authors from
• 45:16
  appstate, Cincinnati and Georgia Tech Brian.
• 45:22
  What do you think of Lance preliminary tape review?
• 45:25
  I mean it looks like he's got a nasty G which I like to see and
• 45:28
  I think that's going to bode well for what coach Rudolph is
• 45:33
  trying to do with this offensive line.
• 45:36
  And I think he kind of fits right into that mold of that
• 45:39
  that style of Lyman that Rudolph is typically recruited.
• 45:45
  You know time will tell if he's going to be able to make the
• 45:49
  transition into a rotation. A little too deep layer or
• 45:52
  starter, but I think this is a good start for the 23 class
• 45:56
  especially at a position where we need some depth.
• 46:00
  Yeah, you know, we've got to replenish the lines, I mean with
• 46:05
  without a doubt, you know, and you feel like with Rudolph.
• 46:08
  It's one of those the way he's developed not only High Caliber,
• 46:14
  you know, or high rated offensive lineman, the last guy
• 46:18
  he had been turned into an All-American, it was constant,
• 46:21
  As a two-star guy that legitimately had.
• 46:24
  He was their offer. No.
• 46:27
  You feel like the hope you feel like Joe Rudolph probably has a
• 46:31
  knack for finding the guys he wants and like you said, you
• 46:34
  can't teach nasty, you can teach you other stuff.
• 46:37
  Alright, next note announced today Braun As you've been
• 46:42
  saying over and over, we ain't Mom and Pops anymore.
• 46:46
  When Sheraton donate five million dollars to update the
• 46:52
  locker rooms five large and that's going to be big.
• 46:58
  We said it we said it earlier today that that might be what
• 47:05
  what do we say? We said that might be some some
• 47:08
  slide money. Yes.
• 47:09
  Some pool slide money, it's not going to quite be E, Florida,
• 47:12
  Cabana money. I think a band of money.
• 47:14
  I saw some people say, get a good barber shop in there.
• 47:18
  I'm sure how about sleep pause. Like they have at LSU, although
• 47:22
  I would just like to know the cost of one sleep pod for my
• 47:25
  house. Yeah, I would like one of those.
• 47:27
  I can just put that in my desk here, the home office, take a
• 47:31
  nap midday. You know, that that would
• 47:34
  definitely be the ideal setup here for me, you know, bigger
• 47:39
  pieces and we and we've seen some of the pictures In the
• 47:42
  locker room is some significantly dated?
• 47:45
  Oh yeah. It's I mean it was it was dated
• 47:48
  eight years. Yeah it probably it probably
• 47:50
  should have been updated in like 2010 but we digress on that but
• 47:55
  seeing this sword again, the money keeps rolling in, you
• 47:59
  know, along with everything else we've seen in the last, you
• 48:02
  know, really six months to a year, the money's coming and
• 48:08
  it's time to get the facilities where they should be.
• 48:11
  You know I can't wait in me and Brian.
• 48:14
  We were talking today. I think this is something we see
• 48:17
  revealed what we say Brian neck about a year from now.
• 48:22
  Yeah, I would think so. I think they if you know,
• 48:25
  depending on where they're at in the planning stages of this, I
• 48:27
  don't know if they already had, you know, planes ready to go,
• 48:30
  just waiting on the funding to come in or what the situation
• 48:33
  is. But if that's the case, getting
• 48:36
  this turned around, before you start getting some of the big
• 48:40
  Junior days next year, at least before the spring game next
• 48:44
  year, that would be the probably ideal scenario when you get a
• 48:47
  lot of those big recruits on campus, you know, they're not
• 48:51
  just looking. At a poster.
• 48:53
  They're not just looking at promotional material.
• 48:55
  They're looking at the real deal.
• 48:58
  Absolutely. And you have to be able to have
• 49:00
  them walk in there and see it Live In Living Color huge but
• 49:04
  also, you know, huge for the guys.
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  They're currently right. Like know.
• 49:09
  They, you're fighting to be one of the guys that gets here so,
• 49:13
  it's awesome. Other thing there is definitely
• 49:16
  going to be something in il related.
• 49:19
  Getting announced tomorrow at Virginia Tech.
• 49:22
  Some of the, some of the known Virginia Tech in il Twitter's
• 49:29
  are there basically they're sending out the signals that
• 49:33
  something's coming up? Yeah, something bigs happening.
• 49:36
  Keep keep your eyes peeled. Keep your eyes peeled.
• 49:41
  I know one was performance, I saw two tweets.
• 49:46
  One was at like 5:00 today and one was it like six?
• 49:50
  That we will just kind of like something's happening and I love
• 49:53
  the timing of it too. I really like the timing of it
• 49:57
  because you're talking about announcing this and probably
• 50:01
  what Friday all the kids are going to be coming in for the
• 50:05
  visit for the official spring game.
• 50:07
  So you're announcing you making this announcement as they walk
• 50:11
  in you have something immediately to talk about not
• 50:13
  only the locker room but the N IL deals.
• 50:17
  Yeah you got a selling point right out the gate 4.
• 50:20
  And you've got a large number of kids coming in.
• 50:23
  So you're not just, you don't, you don't just have something
• 50:26
  new to sell, but you got a lot of eyes that are ready to
• 50:29
  listen. That's not a lot of ears and
• 50:32
  eyes that are ready to listen. I was ready to look ears.
• 50:34
  Ready to listen. Yeah, well, let's flip it now.
• 50:37
  Brian, let's take a look. And start doing a little preview
• 50:40
  of the spring game, things were looking for and a lot of other
• 50:45
  things as well. But let's start with the format
• 50:47
  which coach Pride announced today in his press conference
• 50:50
  There are going to be two rosters into staffs and
• 50:53
  essentially coach prai is working on splitting that up.
• 50:58
  So Brian mean, you've been talking about it.
• 51:02
  We're probably going to get pretty even teams and we're not
• 51:05
  going to probably see some guys play together that we were
• 51:07
  expecting to. Yeah.
• 51:09
  I mean there's there's positives and negatives to this format.
• 51:13
  You know, the positives, are you get to see a lot of guys working
• 51:18
  with various Into. So you get a good mix of how
• 51:23
  everybody that's going to be in the rotation for significant
• 51:26
  snaps. Come fall.
• 51:28
  How they're going to work? They're going to get a good
• 51:30
  amount of snaps. What you don't get to seize.
• 51:33
  You don't get to see how the the first line or the second line or
• 51:38
  gelling, or how this player, you know, works with that player
• 51:42
  because they may be on separate squads.
• 51:45
  So you might not see, you know, Wells, throwing to Blue, you
• 51:49
  know, you might It, you don't see that starting five on the
• 51:52
  offensive line altogether. You're probably going to have
• 51:56
  Silas Dancy and Johnny Jordan probably on separate lines
• 52:00
  because they're probably going to be the leaders of their
• 52:02
  respective units. So there's going to be things
• 52:04
  like that that you don't get to see.
• 52:07
  But what you do get to see is probably a better more
• 52:10
  entertaining game and we're talking about for 12 minute
• 52:14
  quarters. The first half is going to have
• 52:16
  a normal clock. Second half is going to have a
• 52:18
  running clock, but when you have those Mostly evenly matched
• 52:21
  teams. You're going to get a better
• 52:23
  product and that's going to that's going to think benefit
• 52:26
  them from a more casual or typical fan perspective.
• 52:31
  Versus guys like us that like really like to dig into the
• 52:34
  minutiae of the roster the depth chart.
• 52:38
  Yeah and you know breaking down what's happening on the field.
• 52:43
  I think for those, for those casual fans and for those fans
• 52:46
  that just, you know, are showing up to have a good time.
• 52:50
  And enjoy the game. I think that's they're going to
• 52:52
  probably get the best product this way.
• 52:55
  You definitely get the best product.
• 52:56
  But I even think for guys like us and, you know, followers with
• 53:00
  our account and other folks who are deeper into it, you're going
• 53:03
  to start seeing more names, right?
• 53:06
  Like my thought is backs hollifield now and Tuesday will
• 53:09
  not be at Mike and we'll together.
• 53:13
  It's probably going to be Dax and probably Jaden Keller that
• 53:16
  will and you know, you've heard prize speak a couple times.
• 53:20
  He's making some, you know, inroads, you know, in the same
• 53:24
  thing with corner, you might see Jaden blue, go against Elijah
• 53:29
  Howard, who was mentioned today at having a pretty good camp to
• 53:32
  be a younger guy. So so if we see if you see a
• 53:38
  guy, you don't know, and he's starting to make strides
• 53:41
  immediately. He's on your radar.
• 53:43
  Why can't we get to fall camp? And that's what is really cool
• 53:46
  about this format. But you know, Sometimes you just
• 53:51
  want to see one ones and see who can run it the best.
• 53:53
  But let's get into it, Brian. Let's start with the quarterback
• 53:57
  room and From the sounds of it. It feels like well, Grant.
• 54:05
  Well, might have a little bit of an advantage going into the
• 54:08
  spring game. Do you feel that way from here
• 54:12
  in Fred talked? Last week?
• 54:14
  Tyler talk, and then Coach cry talked a few times.
• 54:19
  Yeah, I mean, it sounds like, I mean, he's won the spring baller
• 54:23
  award for the offense, so he's got that under his belt.
• 54:27
  He's been the name that Even when both Wells and brown have
• 54:33
  been mentioned Wells, as name has been brought up first
• 54:36
  consistently and I don't know whether that's just by default
• 54:41
  or whether that's something there's something to that but it
• 54:45
  seems like Wells has the advantage.
• 54:47
  It was mentioned that you know looks like he's throwing a
• 54:49
  pretty good deep ball has good command of the offense.
• 54:53
  The coaches had mentioned that both Wells and brown have only
• 54:55
  thrown one Pig during scrimmages as of our last Last talk there,
• 55:00
  so that's a good sign and especially for Wells who did
• 55:04
  have some concerns with interceptions during his time at
• 55:10
  Marshall. Yeah, so that's good to hear
• 55:12
  both above 65 percent completion percentage during those
• 55:15
  scrimmages, the question is going to be is, you know, are
• 55:20
  these going to Wells and brown? Are they going to be the one
• 55:24
  guys for their respective squads?
• 55:27
  It sounds like they are. Yeah.
• 55:29
  And that's going That's going to give us a pretty good.
• 55:31
  Look at what they're able to bring to the table.
• 55:34
  You're not, you're not worried about splitting snaps or whether
• 55:37
  you know, Browns working with mostly twos and Wells is working
• 55:40
  with mostly ones. You get a good mix for both.
• 55:42
  So you really can kind of see how these quarterbacks handle
• 55:45
  those situations. Yeah, and the whole thing now
• 55:48
  about the snap count is us as you know, kind of paint.
• 55:51
  You know, in the minutiae fans we're not going to worry about
• 55:54
  that anymore because they're probably going to get the same
• 55:56
  number of snap counts with the ones with the Their respective
• 56:01
  ones, right? Yeah, exactly.
• 56:02
  So exactly know that was something we thought about
• 56:04
  looking in. If they're going to play it
• 56:06
  another way. Where's more defense offense?
• 56:10
  What we might be? Seeing is all right.
• 56:12
  Well Wells got, you know, he got 50, you know, he got 20 more
• 56:16
  snaps, he's clearly leaving but we're not going to be able to
• 56:19
  see that. So maybe we get a decision,
• 56:22
  maybe we don't now what I'm going to be more interested in
• 56:26
  brine is who what? Ins they give to each
• 56:32
  quarterback. We keep hearing.
• 56:33
  You said it already Grant well deep ball accuracy.
• 56:38
  Well what if their decision on him is the best deep ball guy?
• 56:40
  They're going to put over with Jason Brown.
• 56:44
  Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see how those
• 56:46
  matchups are set up. You know, whether you know, you
• 56:50
  get blue on one side Loft and on the other, whether whether blue
• 56:54
  and Lofton, they're going to be together, I feel like those are
• 56:57
  probably the two most potent weapons at the wide receiver
• 57:01
  position that we're going to have come fall.
• 57:05
  Bloomer question is, are ya blumrich?
• 57:07
  Where is he going to be? I mean we know he's not a
• 57:09
  quarterback anymore but is he going to be you know, that your
• 57:13
  third or fourth tight, Dorsey just going to be a guy that
• 57:16
  they, you know, drop on one Squad and see what he can do at
• 57:20
  multiple positions there. So that's going to be
• 57:22
  interesting to follow as well. And then, you know, we've
• 57:25
  obviously, I've even talked about Taj Bullock and Devon
• 57:28
  Farrell here who are rounding out the quarterback room.
• 57:33
  I think the big thing to watch for them is going to be
• 57:35
  mechanics, you know, which of those two is is bringing sound
• 57:40
  mechanics and and looks good with their release and It has a
• 57:44
  good command of where they want to go with the football.
• 57:48
  Yeah. The other thing about it, you
• 57:49
  mentioned by the to essentially the, the two guys in the running
• 57:53
  for the starting over 65% coach also mentioned Todd and Devon
• 57:57
  both 65 percent plus completion percentage in their time as
• 58:01
  well. He did not mention interception
• 58:03
  but I expect them to younger guys to have a few more.
• 58:06
  But the other thing is, you know, who's out there barking
• 58:09
  the instruction because they're tick, they're essentially going
• 58:11
  to get a significant amount of snaps.
• 58:14
  Who commits if the Hubble who commands the team better, who
• 58:17
  gets a chance to go out there. For example, you know, let's say
• 58:20
  it's brown and Bullock and they've got Jaden blue.
• 58:25
  Do they get the opportunity to go out there and play with Jaden
• 58:28
  blue or you know, some of the other guys were perceiving to be
• 58:34
  you know contributors on the offense.
• 58:37
  And yeah that's a big one in. I think the other thing when we
• 58:41
  look at who ideal Lee could emerge as that third quarterback
• 58:46
  for this fall and even looking long-term I think, You kind of
• 58:53
  want it to be ties, right? And I think the reason aside
• 58:57
  from his having one extra year in the system, but also my thing
• 59:04
  is, you know, pry and others have mentioned the position
• 59:08
  flexibility that Farrell has, you know, there might be, you
• 59:14
  know, some options with him moving to another position as
• 59:16
  need be or as is better for our roster.
• 59:20
  So ties taking the lead. In that group may be the
• 59:24
  preferred outcome just because of that flexibility, it may be.
• 59:28
  But I think it's going to be in that case, whoever is the third
• 59:33
  best quarterback is going to be the third best quarterback and I
• 59:36
  think that valves going to go into fall Camp.
• 59:38
  I think it never wins. That job is going to be running
• 59:40
  Scout teams and then the other guy is essentially going to have
• 59:43
  to find, you know, a home to do something whomever it is.
• 59:47
  So it'll be really interesting. All right Brian, let's flip
• 59:50
  over. Let's look at the o-line next.
• 59:54
  Tell me what you're looking for because you're going to be there
• 59:56
  in person. You can be able to see it live.
• 59:59
  What are you looking for from these guys?
• 1:00:02
  So, the big thing I'm looking for is nastiness, especially
• 1:00:06
  when I'm looking at the Gap scheme plays, along that
• 1:00:10
  offensive line, I'm looking for assignment soundness.
• 1:00:14
  I want to make sure they understand where they need to
• 1:00:16
  be, how they need to approach that block.
• 1:00:20
  They're taking the right steps, they're not taking false steps,
• 1:00:24
  I'm looking for pass Pro, that is at a level that's acceptable
• 1:00:30
  at this point. I think there's some guys in
• 1:00:32
  this, even in the first group that their past Pro is still
• 1:00:36
  coming along. They might get beat here and
• 1:00:38
  there, but if we can see Improvement, and we can see a
• 1:00:42
  pretty Steady Hand in past Pro, I think that's what we're
• 1:00:45
  looking for. And the last thing Looking to
• 1:00:49
  see who can be a part of that seven and eight man rotation.
• 1:00:54
  We kind of know the first five is pretty locked in.
• 1:00:58
  So how are they pairing those? That second group with some of
• 1:01:03
  those starters in this matchup and who in those groups is kind
• 1:01:07
  of taken the next step to really show that they can be part of a
• 1:01:12
  seven or eight man rotation in the fall and you know I'll ask
• 1:01:17
  this question to see if Do you think?
• 1:01:22
  There's Johnny Jordan, do a good job of making those around him
• 1:01:25
  better because I feel like that is the key factor when we look
• 1:01:29
  at both spraying. And then what we're looking at
• 1:01:31
  long-term in the fall, I think we're going to find that out
• 1:01:34
  Saturday, honestly do. Because what I think is going to
• 1:01:38
  happen with I think we're going to look at something like,
• 1:01:42
  whoever's lined up with Johnny doesn't have Solace on their
• 1:01:45
  left, whether it be Bob shake or whether it be just Hanson.
• 1:01:50
  How good do they play? And then I'm sure the coaches
• 1:01:53
  have notes to say, well, you know, let's say Bob gets me and
• 1:01:57
  Bottles playing great today with John, oh shit.
• 1:02:01
  When Jesse was there with Jonny, Jessie was playing great, maybe
• 1:02:05
  not so much on the right side, that's where I'm.
• 1:02:08
  That's what's going to be fascinating about.
• 1:02:10
  About Saturday's to see how the linemen go.
• 1:02:14
  You know, is it going to be again?
• 1:02:17
  I think you're 100%, right. I think Johnny and Silas are
• 1:02:20
  going to be on opposite sides. I really do think that.
• 1:02:26
  But then what do you do? You do you, do you, do you
• 1:02:28
  booked in tackles and then let you know, do you let multiple
• 1:02:34
  guards? Do you do you let do you let the
• 1:02:36
  guards? Like let all the interior play
• 1:02:40
  together and keep shit on the same side where you can rotate
• 1:02:43
  them in. I mean there's so many different
• 1:02:46
  ways you can go with this and you know brim process the day.
• 1:02:50
  He felt like the offensive line has progressed has been.
• 1:02:53
  He's been pleasantly surprised with how they've progressed,
• 1:02:56
  which is a good sign. Is it also a good sign?
• 1:02:59
  A guy like Bryce, good nerd. Gets moved to defensive tackle.
• 1:03:05
  It's got to be right. I mean, the fact that you're
• 1:03:08
  less concerned about the second or third team offensive line
• 1:03:13
  compared to the second or third team, defensive line that says
• 1:03:16
  that you're in a better place than we thought we would be.
• 1:03:20
  And it also, you know, bodes well for the defensive tackle
• 1:03:24
  depth long-term and for good nor getting on the field faster
• 1:03:28
  which I think is something that was important to him.
• 1:03:31
  Exactly. So I'm going to be I'm going to
• 1:03:35
  be probably getting here late. I'm going to probably miss the
• 1:03:37
  game. We've got a, you know, everybody
• 1:03:39
  knows I'm not going to be here Sports on Saturday.
• 1:03:43
  I mean, I'm Really Gonna pause the TV.
• 1:03:45
  Maybe they'll get some back angles.
• 1:03:47
  I know, Brian. I think you need to be what West
• 1:03:51
  stands right side. So you're facing kind of where
• 1:03:56
  we were in 06, where you get that kind of that perfect view
• 1:03:59
  of the backside of the home, puts in line, because the combos
• 1:04:03
  are going to be so interesting. Do they play with in?
• 1:04:08
  I mean does anybody jump out to you?
• 1:04:12
  I think that's gonna be interesting.
• 1:04:13
  We talk next week and we talk probably I'm not going to call
• 1:04:17
  you Saturday because you're going to have your son with you.
• 1:04:19
  You're going to be all sorts of, but we talk Sunday.
• 1:04:25
  I'm expecting you to say a name, like this person is going to be
• 1:04:30
  in the 2D and I didn't see that coming.
• 1:04:33
  Yeah, that's what I'm gonna try to identify, see you, who is
• 1:04:38
  playing above their, their expected level, like like,
• 1:04:43
  because like we said, we know that, you know, maybe Jesse,
• 1:04:46
  Hanson aside the first five we can.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, we're pretty solid on, we trust them.
• 1:04:52
  We trust them to go out there and play and that's not to say
• 1:04:55
  we don't trust Jesse hands and we just haven't seen enough of
• 1:04:57
  him to know whether that's that's something we can trust or
• 1:05:01
  not. In.
• 1:05:04
  Well, I think what made us feel better last week with hearing
• 1:05:06
  Bob shakes name. Finally, finally.
• 1:05:09
  Seth other than the, the five we know about finally breaking
• 1:05:13
  through. Hopefully.
• 1:05:14
  Yeah. And if we can get two more guys,
• 1:05:17
  to go along with him, then you got an eight, man rotation, and
• 1:05:20
  you feel pretty decent again. I'm more concerned about Center
• 1:05:24
  than I am necessarily guard or tackle, just because I think
• 1:05:29
  Johnny Jordan is going to be somewhat Unreplaceable in that
• 1:05:34
  offensive line on a percent. I will flip next prime let's
• 1:05:38
  look at the skill positions, the wide receiver and the tight end,
• 1:05:42
  we've already mentioned his name.
• 1:05:44
  Once let's mention it again. Connor blumrich.
• 1:05:47
  I mean we expected him to. I mean is he going to be no W?
• 1:05:52
  It's you just going to be all over the place or do we think
• 1:05:56
  you know they're going to stick him?
• 1:05:56
  It just tight end or just big slot.
• 1:06:00
  What are you forcing? I've seen mostly weighing in big
• 1:06:05
  slot but I think he's going to be you deployed a lot of
• 1:06:10
  different ways across once we get into the fall, once the
• 1:06:15
  Playbook is fully open, I think he's going to be deployed in a
• 1:06:17
  lot of different ways but in terms of what I think we see on
• 1:06:21
  Saturday in the spring game I think he's going to be deployed
• 1:06:25
  pretty much as a wing and a big slot and that's not to say
• 1:06:29
  that's a bad thing that's just you know, We're taking taking a
• 1:06:34
  building blocks approach, and that's step.
• 1:06:35
  One is getting him where he's comfortable doing those things
• 1:06:41
  and then we can really stretch out, you know?
• 1:06:44
  Okay, well with his skillset, how can we get him even more
• 1:06:47
  involved in the offense whether that's in throwing him screens,
• 1:06:51
  whether that's in using him in the running game and using him
• 1:06:56
  in a in a trick play variety where he's throwing the
• 1:06:58
  football. I mean, there's so many
• 1:07:00
  different things that you can do with that type of player.
• 1:07:03
  But I don't think we see a whole lot of that Saturday.
• 1:07:05
  I think we see mostly lining up at the wing lining up at the, at
• 1:07:10
  the big slot. Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  So I think Saturday is just going to get him used to being
• 1:07:15
  in a game environment which it was mentioned last Saturday.
• 1:07:19
  They did a full game Ox which they're not doing this Saturday
• 1:07:23
  because they're splitting everybody up full game is
• 1:07:25
  basically who was ever going to be up tops?
• 1:07:28
  Going to be up top. All the sideline folks were
• 1:07:30
  there the communications they Did a true game of how they're
• 1:07:35
  setting it up to be in the fall but I think for him is just get
• 1:07:39
  him comfortable. If I make some passes will be no
• 1:07:42
  running in the round with him just so they can see where they
• 1:07:47
  want to go with him on Saturday. All right.
• 1:07:49
  Brian will give you seven names. Distribute them amongst the
• 1:07:53
  maroon and the white teams ready?
• 1:07:57
  Yep. Jaden blue.
• 1:08:00
  Even God's know, Caleb Smith, Dwayne Lofton, Jalen Jones, they
• 1:08:07
  done right? Christian Moss.
• 1:08:09
  We know there are more ride receivers.
• 1:08:12
  These are the names. We've heard more of than anyone.
• 1:08:16
  So, Brian, give me give me how you would mix them.
• 1:08:22
  I would probably go. Jalen blue.
• 1:08:31
  Right, and I'd probably go. Smith Lofton, guys.
• 1:08:40
  Know and then you can put moss on either side there.
• 1:08:44
  All right, how about this? You give you give them off to
• 1:08:52
  the blue team and the other team gets gallo.
• 1:08:56
  Seems like a fair trade, that's a fair trade, you know, the most
• 1:08:59
  productive wide receiver. What are you looking for?
• 1:09:03
  As you put these guys on their team, is it the route?
• 1:09:07
  Is it? Where theyre playing?
• 1:09:09
  What's going to be more your eyeball test on Saturday?
• 1:09:13
  So there's big things like you know, we want to see how the
• 1:09:16
  route trees developing. I think that's important but I
• 1:09:18
  think what's more important is How each of those players is
• 1:09:23
  being deployed within the scheme of the offense.
• 1:09:26
  That's what's intriguing me more like who's primarily lining up
• 1:09:30
  in the slot. I think it's probably going to
• 1:09:32
  be blue and Lofton but let's see what happens on Saturday.
• 1:09:37
  You know, who's at the excuse that the Z.
• 1:09:41
  What are they doing at those positions?
• 1:09:43
  What type of routes are they running?
• 1:09:45
  What are they? How are they getting involved in
• 1:09:47
  the offense? That's more important to me.
• 1:09:51
  But I do want to see that route tree and you know, more creative
• 1:09:56
  use of the route tree than we saw from the previous regime.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, that that's definitely a big thing is to see the more
• 1:10:03
  creative youth we know it's going to be a vanilla game plan
• 1:10:06
  but even vanilla game plans, you can show your route tree.
• 1:10:09
  I think you from looking at the Fordham tape and looking at the
• 1:10:13
  Penn State game, your we're already seeing the a
• 1:10:16
  significantly larger route, tree and pass development type.
• 1:10:21
  Game. So that that doesn't worry me.
• 1:10:24
  But I am with you in what stinks about not having offense versus
• 1:10:29
  defense is like, for example, let's say.
• 1:10:32
  Jaden blue is in the slot with Caleb and Gosnell.
• 1:10:37
  But when Duane Lofton comes in Jaden, doesn't even feel Jaden
• 1:10:41
  goes to the X. Caleb goes off the field, guys
• 1:10:44
  know, that's what we're not going to get to see because
• 1:10:47
  yeah, see those different Combos and from the way we've seen, you
• 1:10:53
  know, and we already talked about Tyler bones potential
• 1:10:55
  offense, there's going to be things like that.
• 1:10:58
  Like, oh, he's at X, but this guy comes in who's a better, ex
• 1:11:00
  he's slipping down the slot, the why is going off the field?
• 1:11:04
  Because we're going double pipe here. yeah, that's the question
• 1:11:08
  and we probably won't see it because, you know, if we're
• 1:11:11
  talking about the difference between The guys that are going
• 1:11:15
  to be out there in the first run and then your best three players
• 1:11:19
  at the receiver position, that might be two different sets of
• 1:11:22
  three players, right? You know, you might have a first
• 1:11:25
  line that looks like, you know Smith blue and Gosnell just
• 1:11:31
  throwing three names out there. But, you know, you want to get
• 1:11:36
  lost in a lot of touches, but he's going to primary line up at
• 1:11:39
  slot Blues. The better slot, but your best
• 1:11:43
  three wide receivers Crews are potentially Smith blue and
• 1:11:46
  Lofton DVDs. If you bring Lofton in does blue
• 1:11:50
  slide over? Is that something where they're
• 1:11:52
  not necessarily going to be on the field at the same time?
• 1:11:55
  I don't know. We haven't seen the Tendencies
• 1:11:57
  of that. How the coaching staffs going to
• 1:11:59
  handle that? You know, is it going to be the
• 1:12:02
  best? Three are going to are going to
• 1:12:05
  get the the first reps in the most reps?
• 1:12:07
  Or is it going to kind of be a mix and match, you know,
• 1:12:10
  depending on who needs a blow and the game Flow?
• 1:12:13
  And what we need from the passing offense versus, you
• 1:12:17
  know, if we're for managing the game from a rushing standpoint,
• 1:12:20
  it might be better to keep those first three that I mentioned out
• 1:12:23
  there and not necessarily have blue and Lofton on the field the
• 1:12:26
  same time so I don't think it could all be dictated by game
• 1:12:30
  Flow. Yep and that's things we're not
• 1:12:32
  going to see until September so you know book that down that
• 1:12:34
  first game the Friday before Labor Day.
• 1:12:38
  Again we'll start finding out those things.
• 1:12:43
  Obviously, night in with Drake and with Gallo locking down the
• 1:12:48
  first two. You know, who's going to come
• 1:12:51
  out of that third option. I know a lot of people are
• 1:12:53
  saying that's gonna be blown Republic.
• 1:12:55
  I opinions blemish going to be everywhere, so, don't guarantee
• 1:12:59
  him as the third option, but you've got guys on, you got
• 1:13:02
  Saint-Germain already, you know, already with the team.
• 1:13:07
  Benji, guys are not Steven, and you've got Daquan right coming
• 1:13:10
  on. Do you think we're going to
• 1:13:13
  figure out? Who's the third tight end is?
• 1:13:15
  Because obviously this week if gospels playing, you're going to
• 1:13:20
  have drink on one side, you have Gala on the other likely, you're
• 1:13:23
  gonna have Saint-Germain and him owner.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah, I mean, the question is going to be does Benji Gosnell
• 1:13:30
  is he had a point now where he can play an actual scrimmage and
• 1:13:33
  do significant things? I'm not sure if he's there yet,
• 1:13:36
  let me last. We heard from David Cunningham,
• 1:13:39
  two weeks ago, he was still more or less rehabbing wearing a blue
• 1:13:42
  jersey during these. So I don't know if he's come far
• 1:13:45
  enough since then we're that's something that we can actually
• 1:13:48
  get a look at or if that's something that's going to be
• 1:13:51
  safe for the fall. Now what I think is going to
• 1:13:55
  happen is this is this is me is that, you know, you're going to
• 1:13:59
  end up having Saint-Germain, kind of being that fourth tight
• 1:14:03
  in third not counting kind of blumrich for this spring game
• 1:14:09
  and unless he pops, I think this is going to be right.
• 1:14:13
  It's job in the fall Ryan calls, it take one rides, gonna be the
• 1:14:19
  third tight in and the fall. I mean he's he's got the
• 1:14:23
  athleticism. The definitely make you that
• 1:14:26
  joker to bring a little bit of a change of pace to that position
• 1:14:30
  room. So we shall see.
• 1:14:33
  Now there is an upside to what we're doing here, brown with the
• 1:14:35
  split squats and all that. We're going to actually probably
• 1:14:40
  figure out with the running back room, who's in and who's out?
• 1:14:46
  Yeah, yeah that's going to be. We're going to get a good look
• 1:14:49
  at most of these running backs. You know.
• 1:14:51
  I think you're going to in this format, you're going to have the
• 1:14:55
  lead back, get somewhere around 10 touches, you're going to have
• 1:14:58
  probably one or two more guys, get more than five touches in on
• 1:15:03
  both sides of the of the squad's there.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah so you're going to get probably The seven guys that are
• 1:15:10
  going to get at least five carries in these in these
• 1:15:12
  matchups. So that's going to be
• 1:15:14
  interesting to see who, what they do with those carries.
• 1:15:18
  You know we've heard Keyshawn King is called the coaches
• 1:15:20
  attention, the last few practices and you know last
• 1:15:22
  scrimmage you know is he climbing up the depth chart or
• 1:15:26
  is he still kind of more of a situational and special teams
• 1:15:30
  contributor we've heard Malachi Thomas has named a lot and
• 1:15:34
  they've said he's the most well-rounded and it's picked up
• 1:15:37
  the offense quickly so he's He's let's go ahead and put him in
• 1:15:40
  there as the as the lead option, right.
• 1:15:43
  He's been what he's he's kind of one a right now heading into the
• 1:15:46
  spring game by all accounts. Yeah I want to go back to
• 1:15:49
  Keshawn King real quick because with his explosiveness, with his
• 1:15:53
  value on special teams, I mean in, especially the last few
• 1:16:00
  weeks out, he has been getting talk more and more up.
• 1:16:04
  He brings value. Yeah, he's going to have a role
• 1:16:07
  in the fall regardless. Of where he ends up on the
• 1:16:10
  running back depth chart because of his skill set and then and
• 1:16:13
  then there's chance black, who we know has value at kick
• 1:16:16
  returns 100%. Malachi's, the most consistent
• 1:16:19
  guy book him as your one but then they're talking about doing
• 1:16:23
  things with chance and 5 W sets. Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  And what your what I'm hearing is there's probably four guys
• 1:16:31
  with the three we've just mentioned in Jalen Holston.
• 1:16:36
  We're almost guaranteed rolls, you all.
• 1:16:38
  Did you have Bryce Dooku's a freshman?
• 1:16:40
  If he does anything great. So there's really like, is it
• 1:16:44
  for for one? Is that what we can say?
• 1:16:47
  Or is it for 42? Between Hampton.
• 1:16:51
  Yeah, I think it's for for maybe two maybe two.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah. And I mean let's go back real
• 1:16:58
  quick before we talk about those other guys, but let's talk a
• 1:17:00
  little bit more about chance black.
• 1:17:02
  You mentioned, five wide receiver sets that gives you so
• 1:17:05
  much flexibility with the hurry up.
• 1:17:07
  No huddle, right? Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Because you can because you can go 5 wide then you still got a
• 1:17:11
  running back on the on there that you can easily slide back
• 1:17:14
  into the backfield and keep it moving there.
• 1:17:18
  You don't really have a drop-off.
• 1:17:19
  Off. No, not at all.
• 1:17:20
  So that's the big thing. But yeah, you know, you know,
• 1:17:24
  the question we talked about who's going to mix in for those
• 1:17:26
  carries, but you know who are the guys that potentially, you
• 1:17:31
  know, could be looking at the poor lift, they don't have
• 1:17:34
  success on Saturday, you know. We mentioned, you know, a few
• 1:17:39
  names here. I think, you know we got Brunson
• 1:17:41
  we got Lee Hampton, Marco Li NG Chris Kenji Christian, I think
• 1:17:47
  Kenji based on where he is. Is in his time at Virginia,
• 1:17:51
  Tech. He's probably not as high on
• 1:17:55
  that list in terms of Trent portal potential just because I
• 1:18:00
  think he still has a year potentially to move up the depth
• 1:18:03
  chart and obviously, they'll be some natural attrition with with
• 1:18:07
  at least whole host of moving on after this season.
• 1:18:11
  So, you know, I think he's still got a path to get some carries
• 1:18:16
  if not in the fall, you know, probably some time next season.
• 1:18:19
  And whereas some of these other guys, this is it, this is put up
• 1:18:23
  or shut up because you're getting passed by guys younger
• 1:18:26
  than you and there's another class with a new coach coming in
• 1:18:29
  starting next year and the biggest piece is flexibility the
• 1:18:34
  other. The other three guys that are a
• 1:18:37
  little older, which essentially, this would be their junior year.
• 1:18:41
  There are Juniors. Technically in the juniors are
• 1:18:46
  either retro, Juniors. Richard sophomores by their
• 1:18:48
  three. Not traditional.
• 1:18:49
  Oz. Yeah, it's there's no
• 1:18:52
  flexibility, there's no special teams.
• 1:18:54
  You know, there's no return value again.
• 1:18:57
  You don't normally see running backs on punt.
• 1:18:59
  Block units, or, you know, own punt protection or kick
• 1:19:04
  protection units. Very very unheard of.
• 1:19:07
  We're chance and Keyshawn, we know, and we've seen them be
• 1:19:11
  successful on the kick returns when you don't have that added
• 1:19:15
  element or chance black. Who we know can catch passes it.
• 1:19:19
  You're one pony and you've got to do this.
• 1:19:22
  And when, you know, there's a guy like Holston who's kind of
• 1:19:24
  the leader of the room and then there's a guy that when the
• 1:19:28
  coaches are now saying, Malachi's just consistent, which
• 1:19:31
  means it sounds like it's something that you hold is
• 1:19:34
  already talked about. Now, like I said, if you want to
• 1:19:37
  be, you want to be known as good be consistent because if you're
• 1:19:40
  consistent, what are people going to say about you?
• 1:19:44
  He'll give the coaches, the coaches, love things, that that
• 1:19:46
  are predictable and that they can account for.
• 1:19:51
  All right, Brian, let's flip over to the defensive side of
• 1:19:55
  the ball next. And let's start with the
• 1:19:58
  defensive line, much, like the offensive line now, who's mixed
• 1:20:04
  in with, who Yeah, that's the big question, right?
• 1:20:09
  That and especially with all the attrition and position changes.
• 1:20:13
  We've seen a lot of this is going to be brand new names.
• 1:20:18
  Oh yeah it's going to be like I know that person is it's almost
• 1:20:22
  going to be like this is Camille.
• 1:20:24
  I know your name but I've never seen you take a defensive line
• 1:20:26
  snap ever what's coming you're gonna have like on the defensive
• 1:20:30
  - we like whole Nelson and jock food on the other side for me,
• 1:20:35
  Paula And it's going to be garment.
• 1:20:37
  And then in between, there are the guys that were going to be
• 1:20:40
  like know your name, never seen me play.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, you'll probably have you'll have gun or mixed in
• 1:20:45
  there. You'll have been a mixed in
• 1:20:47
  there. Don't open a stretch Carol McRae
• 1:20:52
  that's going to be just just fascinating to watch to see how
• 1:20:56
  they blend that there. Cuz we do need a 2d.
• 1:21:00
  We've been hearing CJ McCray's name more In more?
• 1:21:05
  Yeah, I mean is he pushing for kind of that second line now,
• 1:21:10
  you know, we haven't heard stretch Carol.
• 1:21:12
  Having heard his name any. Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  So you know, it's McRae passing him in terms of Too Deep.
• 1:21:18
  You know, who's to say, I mean, we know, you know we got Jalen
• 1:21:23
  Griffin hasn't really done a whole lot in the spring Eli and
• 1:21:28
  Eli Adams. You know, we know that they'll
• 1:21:30
  be there in the fall. But Is going to be that that
• 1:21:35
  reliable second end on that 2D, that's still up for grabs in the
• 1:21:41
  spring game. And then who's going to be that
• 1:21:44
  third line, which are, we're going to need a third line?
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, going into this season. I mean, you know, I talk about
• 1:21:50
  it all the time, you know, your first and second line, give you
• 1:21:53
  about 80 to 90% of the steps but you need that third line to give
• 1:21:58
  you that 10 to 20%. Yep.
• 1:22:00
  To get you over the hump and we're going to Need that third
• 1:22:03
  line of that, that D line to show up.
• 1:22:05
  So we're going to need to see what these guys have in spring
• 1:22:09
  so we can kind of know what we're will be working with in
• 1:22:11
  the fall. Yeah.
• 1:22:12
  Going to be fascinating to watch that and going to be fascinating
• 1:22:15
  to see who's paired with who and who, you know, really, you know,
• 1:22:21
  who stands out on the defensive line on Saturday line back and
• 1:22:27
  group. I mean, I feel like brick pride
• 1:22:31
  and they just basically told Gionta Jenkins.
• 1:22:35
  This is your job. If you go ball this weekend, he
• 1:22:39
  said, verbatim he answers our potential starter at Sam.
• 1:22:44
  And we haven't, we know he moved there.
• 1:22:46
  What? About two weeks ago?
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, and when I hear that say today to meaning, that sounds
• 1:22:53
  like a challenge. It sounds like he's doing the
• 1:22:55
  right things because I don't think Brent, prize, the type of
• 1:22:59
  guy that's going to say that s word.
• 1:23:02
  Unless he feels the guys ready, unless he's putting significant
• 1:23:06
  distance between everybody else. It's practicing their he's not
• 1:23:09
  going to say this guy has starting potential.
• 1:23:12
  Yeah. Because he hasn't said it about
• 1:23:14
  anybody else really that he has started games before at
• 1:23:18
  positions that they're still playing at.
• 1:23:20
  So I think that that's going to be big, you know.
• 1:23:24
  And when we looked at what what Jenkins had done at safety
• 1:23:27
  previously, and even going back to some of the tape with the
• 1:23:31
  Hokies all-access where we saw coach am talking to him during
• 1:23:35
  that like it seems like sometimes he was overthinking
• 1:23:40
  things and you know proud was talking about Sam not being
• 1:23:43
  quite as much of a of a thinking position more of a read react
• 1:23:48
  and fast and physical. Yes.
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  And we know that Jenkins can bring that and if he's picked
• 1:23:55
  that up quickly and he's doing well with that, I think that's
• 1:23:58
  probably going to be the best thing for us because Give that
• 1:24:02
  position is key to all the other blitzing stuff that this defense
• 1:24:08
  likes to do. So, it's 100% true.
• 1:24:10
  And on Sean Quinn also said something about how that
• 1:24:14
  position you have to be a half Superman, which just tells me
• 1:24:18
  you have to be crazy athletic but it's also a position to me
• 1:24:24
  and Brian were discussing today. If you have a safety or a
• 1:24:27
  linebacker, that's a high recruit that seems like the way
• 1:24:31
  to go. Go after you want to talk about
• 1:24:33
  starting time, first years, that same position.
• 1:24:35
  So start thinking about adding a future, you see a stud athletic
• 1:24:39
  kid out there. You know, undersized linebacker
• 1:24:42
  at like 2:00 10:00, that might be where they get them.
• 1:24:45
  Say, this is where you can go and be to debase out because
• 1:24:48
  you're their athletic and work your way into will of Mike now.
• 1:24:52
  Get Beacon of Will, and Mike, Bryan, we're split squads.
• 1:24:56
  So you've been, you've been, we're not, we're going to
• 1:25:00
  probably see Keller. With Dax probably ski, Sean
• 1:25:03
  Tisdale. Is this kind of a time for
• 1:25:10
  Keyshawn, artists to shine? Yeah, I think this is this is
• 1:25:15
  his opportunity because he wants to take the next step as a
• 1:25:17
  leader of the line backing unit. This is a great opportunity for
• 1:25:22
  him because he's not getting those like second team reps
• 1:25:26
  against second team offenses and things like that.
• 1:25:29
  He's getting to lead his unit as the mic one.
• 1:25:34
  On that other Squad. And so that's going to give him
• 1:25:37
  an opportunity to see if he can be that vocal leader that prize
• 1:25:41
  talked about because I think tool wise he's as good or better
• 1:25:46
  than taxes right now and definitely has better instincts.
• 1:25:49
  So, you know, we'll see what, how that shakes out and that's
• 1:25:53
  no knock on Dax. I think Dax is a good player,
• 1:25:57
  but I think dax's role on this team.
• 1:26:01
  Obviously, I think, That vocal. And that, that being loud and
• 1:26:07
  understanding how to get everyone where they need to be,
• 1:26:11
  that's his biggest attribute coming into the fall, does
• 1:26:14
  artist, take enough of a step forward in that capacity where
• 1:26:18
  he's going to challenge Dax for that position, yet in the
• 1:26:20
  calendar, for the position if he doesn't challenge him.
• 1:26:23
  But does he eat into it? Because remember, he was getting
• 1:26:25
  some rough last year. One of those words.
• 1:26:28
  It's not like 85/15. It's, you know, 70/30 like yes,
• 1:26:33
  it Situation. If you've got to run heavy team
• 1:26:36
  you probably want artists out there much much more.
• 1:26:39
  So all right, let's look at safeties next.
• 1:26:43
  I mean you know we thought people had locked up one of the
• 1:26:48
  safety position, but then Mike Hawkins gets talked about
• 1:26:51
  yesterday. So it seems like they're
• 1:26:53
  battling and they're battling for boundary safety because it
• 1:26:58
  seems like Jamari Connor has locked up field safety, which I
• 1:27:03
  think for some people, People, they might be a little bit like,
• 1:27:06
  oh no he's playing more of a free safety type position.
• 1:27:10
  Not not down in the box. But you made a point earlier by
• 1:27:15
  you talked about the guys plate nickel.
• 1:27:17
  The guys has the guy has covered.
• 1:27:19
  Does he have some lapses? Yeah but he is a good player in
• 1:27:24
  that field safety position and we know he's a leader.
• 1:27:27
  We know he's a dog, we know he has the respect of just about
• 1:27:31
  everybody in that secondary so When you hear field safety,
• 1:27:35
  don't get scared, folks. No, it's the guy that has
• 1:27:38
  already had some of those responsibilities before.
• 1:27:41
  Yeah, I mean. Yeah, there is, there is some,
• 1:27:44
  some concerns with I know sometimes.
• 1:27:47
  There were lapses, in tackling technique, they were lapses in
• 1:27:50
  coverage, you know, he's going to be asked to probably do less
• 1:27:54
  in terms of man and locking someone up and more in that
• 1:27:59
  reading react. And I think the bigger thing is
• 1:28:02
  that he's still going to be coming down.
• 1:28:03
  He'll a lot from this position and so you know, look for look
• 1:28:09
  for that to be something that he's able to do and do pretty
• 1:28:13
  well. So I'm looking forward to see
• 1:28:15
  what he can do. They're not necessarily
• 1:28:18
  concerned by this move but yeah it's something to keep an eye on
• 1:28:21
  for sure. Yeah and today we really only
• 1:28:23
  heard three names mentioned from the safety room.
• 1:28:28
  I'm going to bring something up in just a second as we look at
• 1:28:31
  Corners here because we also heard today Day.
• 1:28:34
  I mean it sounds like DJ Harvey has nickel, just locked down and
• 1:28:38
  there is a nickel package. Yeah, that's what it sounds
• 1:28:42
  like. It sounds like Harvey's really
• 1:28:43
  stepped up and is locked in at that nickel, which means it will
• 1:28:47
  have a true nickel package and based on his bill and stature
• 1:28:50
  and his skills. I mean, that really matches
• 1:28:55
  exactly what he what he does. Well, so I think that's going to
• 1:28:58
  be a good role for him and it also gives him a chance to get a
• 1:29:02
  good amount of live reps without being thrown into the fire of
• 1:29:06
  being, you know, a relied upon corner for For the full four
• 1:29:11
  quarters. Yeah.
• 1:29:13
  And we kind of mentioned it with the safety, and we mentioned it
• 1:29:15
  here that we have a reliable forth.
• 1:29:19
  We heard Armani's name today, we heard prions, and we heard
• 1:29:22
  Dorian as coaches feeling good about them.
• 1:29:24
  He mentioned Elijah as making some strides, as well as cam
• 1:29:29
  Johnson. But then he kind of said, but we
• 1:29:32
  still need one more. We still need one more and the
• 1:29:37
  way he kind of phrased, it was in my opinion.
• 1:29:40
  We Could either go after a field safety, and or a corner.
• 1:29:46
  So I think we are going to go portal shopping after the spring
• 1:29:51
  or one of those and some people would say, well, why would it be
• 1:29:55
  one of the other? If we look at this system,
• 1:29:58
  Brian. You know, we dived probably do
• 1:30:01
  than to it a lot of field. Safety responsibility is in
• 1:30:05
  man-type coverage when they go with the blitz heavy stuff.
• 1:30:12
  Yeah and I think that's the thing that we're looking at is
• 1:30:14
  that are they are they looking at bringing in a dog like
• 1:30:21
  essentially a 1-1 type type player that's in the portal or
• 1:30:26
  they looking to bring in more of a contributor and locker room
• 1:30:29
  type player to fill out the depth at either position.
• 1:30:33
  I don't know if we're looking to upgrade at corner or if we're
• 1:30:37
  looking to fill out depth I don't know if we're looking to
• 1:30:39
  upgrade at safety real looking to fill out.
• 1:30:41
  With at safety. I feel like it's more the
• 1:30:44
  latter. I think it corner.
• 1:30:46
  It could be the former, whether it's looking for that true
• 1:30:50
  leader of the of the secondary to step up or whether it's just
• 1:30:54
  to, you know, make sure that you've got four super reliable
• 1:30:59
  players that you can count on. I mean, we know we got, we got
• 1:31:03
  Marie, we got Chapman, we got Dorian strong, and, you know,
• 1:31:08
  you got DJ Harvey mixed in there at the nickel, but you Really
• 1:31:12
  want to have, you know, a solid too deep at the corner there.
• 1:31:17
  So you got that five counting, the nickel.
• 1:31:19
  Yeah. Where you can really rely on to
• 1:31:21
  put them in coverage against any any of the best receivers on the
• 1:31:25
  other Squad, right? Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  And when you talk about leader and I've mentioned tomorrow, I
• 1:31:29
  think Temari for me, he is the guy that probably could emerge
• 1:31:33
  the leaving the secondary, just because of, you know, his
• 1:31:38
  personality being a dog. And I think we Will.
• 1:31:44
  We won't get a chance to see that Saturday, right?
• 1:31:48
  Because they're not all going to be on the same side but I know
• 1:31:52
  you'll probably get out there early Brian.
• 1:31:54
  But who is the guy that's, you know, pumping them up during the
• 1:32:00
  during the warmup, that's the things I'm looking for because,
• 1:32:03
  you know, we really feel like at every level you like Dax is the
• 1:32:07
  leader. You, we're getting this feeling
• 1:32:09
  a real college really in Garbodor stepping into the
• 1:32:12
  defensive line room. And the secondary because
• 1:32:15
  tomorrow, I went back, we're kind of missing that.
• 1:32:19
  Yeah, that mean battle the council Armani Chapman has been
• 1:32:23
  both a vocal leader and he's got the skills.
• 1:32:28
  You know, we've seen inconsistency.
• 1:32:30
  Be the thing that has dogged him.
• 1:32:33
  Yeah. During his time at Virginia Tech
• 1:32:35
  has he cleaned some of that up? And is he able to, you know, be
• 1:32:40
  that player that leads, by example, but it is also the
• 1:32:44
  vocal leader for that, that group of cheetahs absent freaky
• 1:32:48
  And lutely. All right.
• 1:32:50
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• 1:32:53
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• 1:32:56
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• 1:32:59
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• 1:33:02
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