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Hell and Gone Murder Line: Heidi Planck [Update] · Hell and Gone: Murder Line

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  Speaker 2: On Sunday, October seventeenth, twenty twenty one, thirty nine year
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  Speaker 2: old Heidi Plank left her home in West Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: near Culver City to head out to her eleven year
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  Speaker 2: old son's football game in Downey, which was about seventeen
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  Speaker 2: miles away. Heidi and her husband, Jim Wayne, had divorced
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  Speaker 2: a few years earlier. They shared custody of their son.
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  Speaker 2: When she left the house that day, security footage showed
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  Speaker 2: her dressed in jeans and a white T shirt with
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  Speaker 2: a smiley face on it. She had a gray sweater
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  Speaker 2: wrapped around her waist. Heidi had her black purse with
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  Speaker 2: her and also had her dog, a labradoodle named Seven,
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  Speaker 2: with her when she got into her silver range Rover.
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  Speaker 2: The dog and the purse will become very important later.
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  Speaker 2: I have covered and followed this story for several years now.
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  Speaker 2: We covered it a couple of years ago on a
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  Speaker 2: previous episode of Helengne Murder Line. And when I first
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  Speaker 2: saw this story, I remember thinking that I related to
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  Speaker 2: Heidie immediately because I also have a small dog who
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  Speaker 2: goes everywhere with me. Heidi Plank went to her son's game.
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  Speaker 2: At that game, people noticed that she seemed nervous. Her
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  Speaker 2: ex husband, Jim Wayne later used the word agitated. Heidi
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  Speaker 2: left abruptly at halftime at around four thirty pm and
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  Speaker 2: was never seen alive again by her friends and family,
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  Speaker 2: and it didn't take long for the rumors to start
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  Speaker 2: flying about Heidie's past struggles with drugs, Heidie's boss, his
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  Speaker 2: links to big money and powerful people in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: I said before that this story was playing out like
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  Speaker 2: a real life version of the movie Chinatown, and there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of new updates in this case about
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  Speaker 2: illegal gambling rings, organized crime, and what happened to Heidie's boss,
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman and the millions of dollars that prosecutors allege
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  Speaker 2: he stole from a Native American tribe. I'm Catherine Townsend.
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  Speaker 2: Over the past eight years of making my true crime podcast,
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  Speaker 2: Telling Gone, I've learned that there is no such thing
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  Speaker 2: received hundreds of messages from people all around the country
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  Speaker 2: asking for help with an unsolved murder that's affected them,
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  Speaker 2: their families, and their communities. If you have a case
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  Speaker 2: Helen Gonepod. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Everyone in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles seemed to be obsessed with the Heidi Plank case.
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  Speaker 2: There were a lot of threads to follow, and from
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, one thing that struck a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: was that, from the outside, Heidi's story didn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: make sense. The details of her life didn't quite add up.
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  Speaker 2: There were a lot of angles for police to consider.
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  Speaker 2: Heidi had had a contentious divorce with her ex husband,
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  Speaker 2: a high power job that it wasn't clear that she
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  Speaker 2: had the experience for, and her boss was being investigated
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  Speaker 2: by the SEC. But before all that, and before the
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  Speaker 2: rumors of wild parties, illegal gambling rings, and organized crime
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  Speaker 2: kicked in, we have to back up and figure out
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  Speaker 2: who was Heidi and what was going on in her
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  Speaker 2: life at the time she disappeared. Heidi was born and
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  Speaker 2: raised in Buffalo, New York. She moved to California in
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and one to go to college. Heidi started
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  Speaker 2: her career in in real estate. After graduation. According to
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  Speaker 2: her LinkedIn page, Heidi worked for Coldwell Banker and Douglas Ellman,
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  Speaker 2: and then she started working for a company called Camden
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  Speaker 2: Capital Partners. Her boss there was forty eight year old
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman. Now Jason Sugarman is well known in Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles finance circles. He graduated from Yale and is described
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  Speaker 2: as a leader in the finance industry, and he describes
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  Speaker 2: himself on his website as a father, CEO, and philanthropist.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman's father in law is Peter Goober, the owner
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  Speaker 2: of the Dodgers. Police were taking a look at everyone
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  Speaker 2: in Heidie's life, including her ex husband, Jim Wayne, a
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  Speaker 2: sixty three year old hairstylist in Beverly Hills. Heidi and
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  Speaker 2: Jim married in two thousand and eight, and they divorced
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  Speaker 2: four years later. Now, Jim and Heidi had had their
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  Speaker 2: issues like many divorce couples, and they went through a
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  Speaker 2: custody battle during their divorce. Jim claimed that after their
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  Speaker 2: son was born, Heidi had to struggled with postpartum depression,
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  Speaker 2: and according to court documents, Jim claimed that in late
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Heidi had had what he described as a
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  Speaker 2: full psychotic break. He said due to her addiction to adderall.
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  Speaker 2: At that time, Jim had had full custody of their son,
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  Speaker 2: named Bond, But then Jim said that Heidi got better
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  Speaker 2: and in twenty seventeen they began sharing joint custody. Since then,
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  Speaker 2: they had been getting along and successfully co parenting. Police
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  Speaker 2: did look into the relationship between Jim Wayne and Heidi.
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  Speaker 2: He was completely cooperative with the investigation. He reported her
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  Speaker 2: missing immediately and also court records show that Jim had
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  Speaker 2: paid Heidi a lump sum in twenty twelve when they divorced,
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  Speaker 2: but he had not sent her money since then. Heidi
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  Speaker 2: earned more than Jim, and actually Heidi paid Jim child support,
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  Speaker 2: So Jim did not appear to have any motive, either
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  Speaker 2: personal or financial, for causing Heidi harm, and the police
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  Speaker 2: did not consider Jim a suspect in Heidie's disappearance. Jim
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  Speaker 2: told LA magazine that after their split, Heidi had started
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  Speaker 2: her new job working for Camden Capital Partners, first as
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  Speaker 2: an assistant and later as a financial controller. Jim later
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  Speaker 2: told Dateline Heidi didn't have the education for that type
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  Speaker 2: of senior finance job, and he claimed that before Heidi
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  Speaker 2: went missing, she told him that she was nervous about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that her boss, Jason Sugarman, supposedly put her
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  Speaker 2: name on financial documents connected to the firm. So what
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  Speaker 2: was going on on the day Heidi disappeared? What caused
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  Speaker 2: her to be on edge at the game and to
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  Speaker 2: leave early. Jim said that after the game, the last
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  Speaker 2: time that he saw or heard from Heidi was at
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  Speaker 2: around seven pm that night, when she responded to one
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  Speaker 2: of her son Bond's texts about the game. Bond sent
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  Speaker 2: another text after that, talking about a play he made,
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  Speaker 2: but Heidi did not respond to that text. Jim told
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  Speaker 2: multiple media outlets that that was completely out of character
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  Speaker 2: for Heidi and that she would never not respond to
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  Speaker 2: her son. Court record show that Bond continued to reach
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  Speaker 2: out to his mother. On October eighteenth, at seven thirty
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  Speaker 2: one pm, Bond wrote in a text message, can you
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  Speaker 2: please call me back? I called you two days in
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  Speaker 2: a row and you haven't picked up. On October twentieth,
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  Speaker 2: Heidi was supposed to pick Bond up from school to
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  Speaker 2: start her custody time, but she never showed up. Jim
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  Speaker 2: picked his son up and drove straight to the police
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  Speaker 2: station to report Heidi missing, and once Jim started calling
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  Speaker 2: around to Heidie's friends, he realized the last confirmed sighting
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  Speaker 2: of her seemed to be at Bond's football game on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Police talked to Heidie's friends and acquaintances, including a guy
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  Speaker 2: she was seeing at the time, Naim Salaam, who worked
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  Speaker 2: for the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative in San Francisco, but police
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  Speaker 2: quickly found out Heidie's boyfriend had been in the Bay
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  Speaker 2: Area during the entire time when Hidie went missing. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: he told police he thought Hidie had been annoyed with
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  Speaker 2: him and possibly ghosting him. Police quickly confirmed he was
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of miles away at his home when Hidie went missing,
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  Speaker 2: and they did not consider him a suspect. Hide's boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: told police something else. He said that one of the
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  Speaker 2: last times he talked with her, Heidi said she was
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  Speaker 2: afraid or worried about something. Heidie's boyfriend told Jim Wayne
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  Speaker 2: that she had texted him that she was scared and
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  Speaker 2: asked him to come down to La to visit her
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  Speaker 2: the weekend she went missing, but Naim said he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: make it that weekend. So what was the source of
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  Speaker 2: Heidie's stress and fear? Could it have been connected to
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  Speaker 2: her job or her boss, Jason Sugarman. There had been
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  Speaker 2: some major stresses on Jason Sugarman at that time related
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  Speaker 2: to the SEC investigation that detailed an alleged multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 2: scam perpetuated by Jason and his business partner, Jason Galanis.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Galanas had a lot of business interests, including creating
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  Speaker 2: a billing service for adult websites, which led to Forbes
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  Speaker 2: calling Jason Galanis, Porn's new king. According to the SEC indictment,
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  Speaker 2: Galanas and Sugarman, the two Jasons, as they referred to them,
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  Speaker 2: stole forty three million dollars from pension funds of a
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  Speaker 2: Native American tribe of the Sioux Nation. Court documents stated
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  Speaker 2: that this alleged scam started back in twenty fourteen, when
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  Speaker 2: Jason Galanis and his father, John Galanis obtained tribal bonds
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  Speaker 2: and convinced the tribe that they would sell these bonds
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  Speaker 2: and use the proceeds to invest the money for the tribe. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: the SEC claimed they simply stole the money. Later, Jason
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  Speaker 2: Galanis and Jason Sugarman bought a bunch of companies together,
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  Speaker 2: including Hughes Capital Management LLC and Atlantic Asset Management LLC. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the SEC said that they also named a code defendant
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  Speaker 2: into a management role of these enterprises, but the indictment
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  Speaker 2: claimed this person they had named was really just a
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  Speaker 2: straw man, and that actually the two Jasons remained in
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  Speaker 2: control of everything. And then, according to the indictment, Jason
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  Speaker 2: Galanis and Jason Sugarman allegedly began laundering money through a
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  Speaker 2: series of fraudulent transactions. They and their co defendants allegedly
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  Speaker 2: stole sixty million dollars from the Native American Travel Corporation
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  Speaker 2: and more money from other companies they'd acquired. The indictment
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  Speaker 2: stated that Jason Sugarman was quote the biggest winner from
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  Speaker 2: the fraud and that he ultimately siphoned almost nine million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in cash for his direct and personal benefit end quote.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman was also mentioned in connection with Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 2: now notorious life laptop. Emails from Hunter's laptop reportedly showed
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  Speaker 2: that Jason was a director and key shareholder of Burnham
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  Speaker 2: Financial Group, and that group pitched a major deal to
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  Speaker 2: Hunter's Chinese business partners in twenty fifteen. Another one of
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman's partners who's also mentioned in the SEC indictment
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  Speaker 2: is Hunter's friend and business partner Devon Archer. Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 2: lawyer has said that Hunter had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the Native American bond scheme. The lawyer said this scheme
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  Speaker 2: just happened to be happening at the same time as
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  Speaker 2: the negotiations with the Chinese investors. According to The Sun,
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  Speaker 2: Hunter's lawyer said Hunter's name had been used without his knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: and that Hunter's business interests were not affiliated with the
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  Speaker 2: Burnham Group or with the defendants and the tribal bond case.
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  Speaker 2: In January of twenty seventeen, Jason Galanis pled guilty to
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  Speaker 2: criminal charges in connection with the fraud, and he began
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  Speaker 2: serving a sentence of one hundred and seventy three months.
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  Speaker 2: Devin Archer was convicted for his involvement in the tribal
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  Speaker 2: scam in twenty eighteen. He was sentenced to three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixty six days in federal prison and ordered to
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  Speaker 2: make restitution in the amount of over forty three million
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  Speaker 2: dollars according to the Department of Justice. But the case
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  Speaker 2: against Jason Sugarman was very much active in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: one when Heidi Plankq went missing and there was another
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  Speaker 2: piece of evidence that would come into play, Heidi's work laptop.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Wayne went to Heidie's house on October twentieth. He
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  Speaker 2: found her work laptop and phone. He turned those over
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  Speaker 2: to police, and at the same time, Jim was also
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  Speaker 2: starting to do some of his own detective work by
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  Speaker 2: trying to track some of Heidi's other devices. Jim tried
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  Speaker 2: to track Heidi's car with the location tracking system, but
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  Speaker 2: according to court documents, Heidi's location services were not on,
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  Speaker 2: and he tried to find my phone feature on her
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  Speaker 2: iPhone and Apple Watch and her earbuds, but he later
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  Speaker 2: said the location features for all of those devices were
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  Speaker 2: disabled as well. He openly stated he wondered if this
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  Speaker 2: was a coincidence or if someone other than Heidi had
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  Speaker 2: turned those tracking devices off. Jim Wayne said that on
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  Speaker 2: October twenty first, the day after he reported Heidi missing,
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  Speaker 2: he got a phone call from an SEC executive asking
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  Speaker 2: questions about Jason Sugarman. Then something else, very strange happened.
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  Speaker 2: CBS Los Angeles ran video of Jason Sugarman ringing Heidi's
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  Speaker 2: doorbell and then leaving donuts on the doorstep, video that
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  Speaker 2: the news station says was captured a day or two
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  Speaker 2: after Heidi went missing. In that footage, you can see
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  Speaker 2: Jason ringing the bell once, dropping the donuts, and leaving.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to hesitate at all or try to
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  Speaker 2: look inside. Heidi's finances were also being question by investigators.
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  Speaker 2: As we said before, Heidi worked as a financial controller
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  Speaker 2: for Camden Capital Partners, which reportedly gave her a salary
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  Speaker 2: of one hundred and forty five thousand dollars per year,
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  Speaker 2: plus generous bonuses. Police were starting to ask how she
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  Speaker 2: could afford the rent on her one point seven million
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  Speaker 2: dollar townhouse and how she could afford to buy a
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  Speaker 2: ninety thousand dollars fully loaded land Rover. To complicate matters further,
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  Speaker 2: Heidi's rented Culver City property was listed in corporate documents
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  Speaker 2: and public records as the company office of Camden Capital Partners.
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  Speaker 2: When he was questioned about her finances, Jim Wayne told
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Magazine, quote, You're going to have to ask
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  Speaker 2: Heidi or her boss. All I know is that she
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  Speaker 2: always had piles of cash and took a lot of vacations.
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  Speaker 2: She told me that her boss floats her money when
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  Speaker 2: they close a deal. End quote. According to a transcript
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  Speaker 2: of a hearing relation to Heidie's laptop, the prosecution in
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman's case stated that Heidie's disappearance was separately being
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  Speaker 2: investigated by the LAPD as a homicide, while the judge
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  Speaker 2: in Jason's case was trying to figure out who might
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  Speaker 2: have rights to the items in Heidie's home in a
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  Speaker 2: rented storage unit. The filings to the SEC connected to
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  Speaker 2: the case were sealed with a protective order, so a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the details were not made public, which just
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  Speaker 2: added to the speculation and intrigue around this case. Jim
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  Speaker 2: Wayne told LA magazine and others that he believed Jason
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  Speaker 2: Sugarman could be connected to Heidie's disappearance, but there was
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  Speaker 2: no evidence that the police ever considered Jason Sugarman a
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  Speaker 2: suspect in Heide's disappearance, and he has never been arrested
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  Speaker 2: or charged in connection with her disappearance. Jim Wayne threw
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  Speaker 2: even more shade on Jason Sugarman when he said that
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  Speaker 2: shortly after Heidie disappeared that Jim had called Heidie's office,
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  Speaker 2: and he said he did not feel that Jason was
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  Speaker 2: concerned about Heidie's whereabouts, but he told The Daily Mail,
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  Speaker 2: Jason Sugarman did seem to be very worried about something else,
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  Speaker 2: Heidi's work laptop. The laptop, again, was the one that
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  Speaker 2: was inside Heidie's house, the one that Jim had taken
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  Speaker 2: out of there and handed over to the police. But
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  Speaker 2: Jason's attorney told LA magazine that the work laptop should
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  Speaker 2: never have been taken by the sec and that the
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  Speaker 2: work laptop should have been considered stolen property. Jim Wayne
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  Speaker 2: said someone at Jason Sugarman's office had told him that
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  Speaker 2: they believed that Heidi was quote siphoning off money from
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  Speaker 2: the company end quote. Jim said, in his opinion, stealing
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  Speaker 2: would be completely out of character for Heidi and he
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  Speaker 2: does not believe that this could be true. Jim also
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  Speaker 2: claimed that he learned from police that Heidi did not
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of money in her personal accounts. On
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  Speaker 2: October twenty ninth, news broke that police and federal agents
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  Speaker 2: were entering Heidi planks townhouse, but they found no signs
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  Speaker 2: of Heidi inside. Then there was another break in the case.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Wayne got messages from a young couple who lived
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  Speaker 2: in a downtown apartment building called the Hope and Flower Building.
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  Speaker 2: They said that Seven had been roaming the hallways on
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  Speaker 2: either the twenty eighth or twenty ninth floor alone. There
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  Speaker 2: was no sign of Heidi. Police were then able to
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  Speaker 2: pull surveillance footage from in and around the building where
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  Speaker 2: seven was found, and they found more footage of Heidi alive.
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  Speaker 2: She was alive on October seventeenth, at around six thirty PM,
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  Speaker 2: several hours after she left her house and her son's game.
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  Speaker 2: The footage showed Heidi wearing the same clothing she'd had
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  Speaker 2: on when leaving her house and at the football game,
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  Speaker 2: with her dog, walking down an alley between eleventh and
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  Speaker 2: twelfth Streets. This is an alleyway that runs behind the
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  Speaker 2: Hope and Flower building. Speared to be wearing the sweater
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  Speaker 2: that had been tied around her waist in the earlier footage.
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  Speaker 2: There was some question in the beginning, even about the
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  Speaker 2: footage in a case where nothing is what it appeared
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  Speaker 2: to be. Some people said the footage did not look
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  Speaker 2: like Heidi, that the hair looked darker, almost brown, or
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  Speaker 2: like she was wearing a wig. But some of Heidie's
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  Speaker 2: close friends did come forward and they stated that it
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  Speaker 2: was definitely Heidie, that the lighting was just a little
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  Speaker 2: bit weird. This footage appeared to be a major break
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  Speaker 2: in the case because it massively narrowed down the window
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  Speaker 2: of time when Heidie went missing. Heidi didn't have her
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  Speaker 2: purse with her, just her dog, and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: her black purse was never recovered, which pointed to the
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  Speaker 2: theory that Heidie could have gone to visit someone in
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  Speaker 2: the building and ducked out to walk her dog in
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  Speaker 2: that little alley. A lot of people online made the
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  Speaker 2: same comment that I was thinking, I wouldn't leave my
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  Speaker 2: purse with anyone that I did not fully trust. Again,
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  Speaker 2: none of Heidie's friends nor Jim had any idea if
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  Speaker 2: Heidi knew any one who lived in that building or
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  Speaker 2: what she was doing there, except for one person. Another
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  Speaker 2: one of Heidi's friends told reporters that they had talked
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  Speaker 2: to building staff, who apparently told a friend that they
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  Speaker 2: had recognized Heidi and her dog. Seven attention focused more
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  Speaker 2: and more on the Hope and Flower Building. The Hope
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  Speaker 2: and Flower Building was billed as a luxury high rise,
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  Speaker 2: but several residents claimed that there had been theft, drug use,
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  Speaker 2: dogs defecating on their terraces, piles of trash in the hallway,
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  Speaker 2: and they claimed that their secured parking spaces are constantly
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  Speaker 2: vandalized and broken into. When I first started investigating this case,
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  Speaker 2: I went to a prayer vigil for Heidi held at
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  Speaker 2: the Hope and Flower Building. I met some of the
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  Speaker 2: residents there and a lot of reporters. This was a
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  Speaker 2: big story. A mom of one who seemed to have
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: vanished into thin air in the middle of downtown LA
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the afternoon. Then, on November fourth,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, police found Heidie's Range Rover. It was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: parked in a garage several blocks from the Hope and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Flower building. The car, by the way, was very near
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the alley where Heidie was seen walking on video. So
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: why would Heidie not park in the building's parking lot.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Why would she park several blocks away? Was Heidie's disappearance
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: in any way connected to information on that work laptop
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and the pending SEC investigation. Could Heidi have had access
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to information that could have put her in danger? Or
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was everything going on at work just a coincidence. Police
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: also considered the possibility the given Heidie's background, she could
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: have gone missing voluntarily. Maybe she had some sort of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: mental health issue. Heidie's family said no way. They said
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that would not explain while all of her tracking devices
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: were shut off, and they have been adamant that nothing
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in Haidee's behavior ever suggested that she would voluntarily leave
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: her son, And apart from that, they say there's no
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: way that Heidi would have abandoned her dog. She would
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: never have left her dog to fend for himself by choice.
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  Speaker 2: I lived in la for a long time, and I'm
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: very familiar with the downtown area where Heidi went missing.
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  Speaker 2: I got messages on Instagram from several residents of that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: building who told me the LAPD had been to the
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  Speaker 2: Hope and Flower building. The residence said they had been
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: smelling a foul stench from the trash chute. They said
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that they had heard that a bloody mattress or possibly
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: even a body, had been taken from the building. Then
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the LAPD released a statement that indicated they might be
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: following the evidence trail inside that building. The LAPD said
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in a statement quote forensic evidence was located inside the building,
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  Speaker 2: which has led detectives to believe an incident occurred resulting
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  Speaker 2: in Plank's death end quote, but they never publicly said
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: what that forensic evidence was. They also said that further
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: investigation has led investigators to the Chakiitaki Canyon landfill, which
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: is about forty miles northwest of the downtown location where
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Heidi was last seen. The LAPD released a statement and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: said they were looking in a specific area of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: landfill for human remains. The Sun newspaper reported that the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Shaquita Canyon Landfill is where the waste disposal company that
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: services the Hope and Flower Building dumps its trash. The
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  Speaker 2: LAPD has not revealed much about what they found inside
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that building or at the landfill, if anything. The case
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: was transferred from Missing Persons to LAPD Robbery Homicide in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty one. The LAPD stated that they
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: now believe that the incident involving Heidi happened on October seventeenth,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and that Heidi is now dead and they believe that
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: whatever bad thing happened to her happened at that downtown building.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Jim Wayne told the Son that he has talked to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: the LAPD and says police have told him that up
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to five people were involved in what happened to Heidi.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: He wasn't the only one, because rumors started circulating among
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: residents in the building and in downtown LA that Heidi
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: had died at a party in the Hope and Flower
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Building and that her body and possibly a blood soaked
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: mattress had been thrown into the trash shoe. Then the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: case took another weird twist. The Sun reported that people
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: who lived in the Hope and Flower Building had told
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the LAPD that Heidi went to a party in the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: building and may have overdosed on drugs, and that someone
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: at the party panicked and dumped her body in a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: trash shoe. A woman who hosts a true crime show
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: on YouTube told the newspaper she went to the building
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and ran into someone there who claimed to have witnessed
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Heidi die of an overdose at a huge party in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the building. This person claimed they had been told that
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Heidi had stopped at the building to see a guy
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: she had been dating and to get some adderall from him,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and that Heidi dropped her dog off with a dog
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: sitter to go to this party. Then this person claimed
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Heidi was at the party with drugs and strippers and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: cryptocurrency gambling. But then this person stated that Heidi overdosed
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the dance floor and that she
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: was later told that Heidi had taken something, possibly adderall
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: lace with fentanyl. She then told the newspaper that quote
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a bunch of them took her out and put her
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in the garbage chute and pushed her down end quote.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: A reporter from the Sun saw one of these video
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: clips that this person claimed showed Heidi overdosing, but the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: reporters said they were not able to verify either the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: videos or the photo, and this story sounded wild, but
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: later a version of it would come up again. Dateline
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: covered this case, and police stated that surveillance data from
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the Hope and Flower building showed that there were lots
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: of people there to question. This was kind of a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: vague statement, but it seemed clear that investigators were considering
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the possibility that Heidi had gone to a party in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: this building. But Heidie's friend Natalie told Dateline she didn't
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: buy the party theory. She pointed out that Heidi was
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: dressed super casually, not for a party. Dateline also interviewed
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: an investigative reporter, Eric Leonard, who covered the case extensively
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: for K ANDBC. Eric said that his reporting indicated that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: investigators were working on a theory that Heidi might have
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: taken something laser fentanyl. He told Dateline that they were
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: able to confirm that after Heidi died, she was likely
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: put into an upper floor trash shoe and her body
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: fell into the trash compactor. Heidi Plank was officially declared
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: dead by a judge in twenty twenty three. Jason Sugarman
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: has not been charged with any wrongdoing in connection with
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Heidie's disappearance. He settled his case with the SEC and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: paid his fine. Since we last reported on this story,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: there have been more developments in Jason Galanis and Devon
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Archer's cases. Both Jason Galanis and Devon Archer were pardoned
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: by President Trump. When Jason Galanis was pardoned in twenty
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: twenty five, it was reported that he does not have
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to pay back the one hundred and sixty two million
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: dollars in fines. Jason Sugarman's civil case has also come
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to a close. On January tenth, twenty twenty three, the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: United States District Court for the Southern District of New
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: York entered a final judgment against Jason Sugarman. He was
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: ordered to pay over ten point two million dollars and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: as a result, the charges against him were dropped. He
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was also banned from participating in the securities industry for
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: three years. After settling his case with the SEC and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: paying his fine, Jason Sugarman moved on with his life.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Heidi Plank's case faded into the background, but then into
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: tenty twenty five Heidie's name was in the news again.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: A big story broke that people were being indicted in
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: connection with an underground gambling ring based in the San
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Fernando Valley, and that some of those same people had
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: been suspected of running an illegal poker room in the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Hope and Flower Building, the same building where Heidie was
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: last seen. NBCLA reported that they had spoken to sources
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: who indicated that Heidi might have either met up with
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: someone who was at that poker game or visited the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: party in the building that day. This story was big
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: news in Los Angeles because former NBA player Gilbert Arenas
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: was one of the eight people, according to the indictment,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: who were alleged to have been involved in the San
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Fernando Valley gambling ring. However, NBCLA reported that there was
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: no evidence that Gilbert, who played for the Washington Wizards,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: had any connection to the downtown gaming room. After appearing
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: in court, Gilbert posted on x that he was back
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: on the streets and that he was not part of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: any alleged illegal gambling at that residence. But federal prosecutors
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: claimed that Gilbert texted co defendants' images of a poker
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: table with Arana's Poker Club printed on it and provided
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: fourteen thousand dollars in startup funds. Federal prosecutors say that
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: a forty eight year old professional poker player Evgeney, Eugene Terrevski,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and ev Gueney Jora Gershman, a forty nine year old
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Israeli national from Woodland Hills, were involved in the illegal
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: poker games, which prosecutors further alleged were run by Israeli
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: or Russian organized crime families. Yeb Gueney Gershman, Eugene Tcherevsky,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and Gilbert Arenas have pleaded not guilty and are slated
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to face trial in November of twenty twenty six. One
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: investigator wrote in the affidavit about the organized crime families
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: quote they are known for engaging in murder, car bombings,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and extortion rackets throughout the world as a tool for
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: intimidation and control end quote. According to the two ty
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: twenty two search warrants, one of the people running these
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: games told investigators that the players there could win or
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single night,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and that the minimum by in was normally at least
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars. But what connection do any of these
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: people have with Heidi? If any, we don't know for sure.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Court records indicate that Heidi Plank attended a similar game
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: in the Hope and Flower Building. Media reports indicate that
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the FBI raided homes in Sherman Oaks while investigating leads
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: about Heidie's case, but the FBI has not made any
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: public statements about these alleged connections. Law enforcement sources have
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: stated that they believe that people who were at the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: building on the day Heidi vanished no more information, but
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: they believe some people are unwilling to come forward due
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: to their own involvement in alleged illegal activity. Heidi's family
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: has continued to tell her story. They're still looking for her,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and they have posted billboards all over Los Angeles asking
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: for anyone who knows anything to please come forward. Jim
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Wayne now has full custody of Bond and Heidie's dog
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: is also living with them. He has made statements to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Magazine and others indicating that he continues to
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: believe that Heidie's boss, Jason Sugarman, could somehow be involved
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in her disappearance. The Los Angeles Police Department has asked
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that anyone who was near or in twelve oh one
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  Speaker 2: South Hope Street on or around October seventeenth, twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: and has any information that could help detectives to contact
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the Robbery Homicide Division at two Pine three four eight
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: six six eight four to zero. Everyone is talking about
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories and million dollar deals and alleged connections to
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: politicians or drug dealing or poker rings. Meanwhile, a young
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: boy has lost his mother and Heidie's family is unable
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to bear her because her remains have never been found.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Eric Lennard, the reporter who covered this case, told Dayline that,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: in his opinion, the theory about attending a poker game
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: would seem to explain why Heidi was reportedly seen on
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: camera going into the building but was not seen leaving.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: One thing that really sticks out to me about this
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: case is Heidie's dog. All of Heidi's digital device's location
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: services were turned off, so if her dog had not
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: been microchipped, there would have been no connection to the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Hope and Flower building, and no one might have ever
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: known about the possibility that. On October seventeenth, twenty twenty one,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Heidi Plank went into that building in downtown LA, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: she never came out. I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen
• 33:33
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• 33:37
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• 33:40
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• 33:46
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• 33:50
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