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The Late Debate | 23 may · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Lateens General, Welcome to the Late Bay.
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Speaker 2: Well good evening.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond. If
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Speaker 3: you thought that portrait of King Charles was bad, and
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Speaker 3: it was, wait until you see what an artist has
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Speaker 3: done to Princess Kate will show you that shocker a
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Speaker 3: little later. Plus, when we look at all of tomorrow's papers,
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Speaker 3: Melbourne's multimillion dollar sobering up centers are sitting empty, and
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi refuses to rule out enforcing an arrest warrant
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Speaker 3: if indeed one is issued against the Israeli Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: All of that a little later, but first let's talk tennis.
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Speaker 3: Australian tennis star Nick Curios will not be playing at
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Speaker 3: Wimbledon this year. He's injured, so instead he'll be providing
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Speaker 3: commentary with the BBC, and that decision has sparked outrage
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Speaker 3: amongst conservative politicians and women's activists. They say having Curios
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Speaker 3: as a commentator on the BBC is tantamount to endorsing
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Speaker 3: violence against women. Now, the problem is that Curios pleaded
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Speaker 3: guilty last year to shoving his ex girlfriend. Now a
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Speaker 3: magistrate dismissed the charge saying the incident was low level
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Speaker 3: and there was no suggestion that there was any danger
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Speaker 3: of it happening again, but that was of no consequence
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Speaker 3: to Curios's critics. Conservative MP Caroline Noakes, who's the chair
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Speaker 3: of the Women's and Equity Committee in the UK Parliament,
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Speaker 3: she slammed the decision, saying and I quote the BBC
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Speaker 3: should hang its head in shame at disappointment. It's a
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Speaker 3: disgrace and shows the utter contempt our national broadcaster has
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Speaker 3: towards women. Another activist, noting that Curios has previously retweeted
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Speaker 3: social media posts from Andrew Tait, whom some regard as
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Speaker 3: a misogynist, said and I quote there are many potential
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Speaker 3: wimbled and pundits out there.
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Speaker 2: Why choose to employ an abuser?
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Speaker 3: Another activist said it's amazing how quickly we're willing to
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Speaker 3: dismiss violence against women, as long as the men and
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Speaker 3: perpetuating it is good at hitting a ball or a
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Speaker 3: musical note. Now, for the BBC's part, they said they
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Speaker 3: didn't approach Curios until well after the court proceedings were concluded,
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Speaker 3: and besides, as a current player and former Grand Slam finalist,
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Speaker 3: he'll provide great analysis and insight.
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Speaker 2: So let's start with you, Liz.
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Speaker 3: Should Curios be commentating with the BBC or should he
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Speaker 3: be banned from the platform because of that court case
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Speaker 3: last year.
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Speaker 4: I don't think you should be banned whatsoever, but it
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Speaker 4: does definitely open up the much bigger question of how
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Speaker 4: long should something like this affect a guy's career if
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Speaker 4: it all So, the incident in question happened over three
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Speaker 4: years ago now, and I think even using the term
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Speaker 4: abuse maybe a little bit misplaced here, because it was
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Speaker 4: an altercation.
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Speaker 5: She would or wouldn't get out of the car.
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Speaker 6: He would be in her apartment. They had a disagreement,
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Speaker 6: and he was trying to leave, like he was actually
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Speaker 6: trying to extricate himself from the app acumen in an
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Speaker 6: uber and she went him in the way of the
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Speaker 6: car door so he couldn't shut it. So he shoved
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Speaker 6: her shoulders, by which he meant move get out of
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Speaker 6: the way. Yeah, and she fell over. I mean that
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Speaker 6: was the basis of this supposed abuse claim, I don't
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Speaker 6: think exactly.
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Speaker 4: So we're now hearing abuse and assaults thrown around, and
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Speaker 4: how could.
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Speaker 5: You give such a platform to such a man?
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Speaker 4: Now, there are certain circumstances in which that's a very
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Speaker 4: necessary conversation to have, but this is not one of them,
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Speaker 4: and the BBC coppy flack for it. Like the MP
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Speaker 4: that you just quoted, this is just way out of context.
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Speaker 4: And what it actually does is take away from the
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Speaker 4: cases in.
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Speaker 5: Which that is a re very relevant question.
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Speaker 4: To be asking, and we ask it every time we have,
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Speaker 4: you know, AFL player or an NRL player grace our
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Speaker 4: front pages having behaved very poorly, whether it's behavior toward
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Speaker 4: women or whether it's a big night out on the town.
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Speaker 5: Involving drugs and sex and rock and roll.
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Speaker 4: But this is not one of those cases, and that's
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Speaker 4: what they're trying to make it the equivalent of. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: the reason why it really gets my goat is it
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Speaker 4: takes away from those cases in which it's absolutely a
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Speaker 4: necessary conversation to have it, but a little bit.
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Speaker 1: He trivializes it, right.
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Speaker 6: But I think this whole shabang proves exactly why Nick
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Speaker 6: Kurrios is the perfect guy to be commentating for the BBC,
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Speaker 6: because he is a walking controversy machine, right And it
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter whether you like tennis or not. Everyone knows
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Speaker 6: who Nick kurios Is and everyone at some point has
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Speaker 6: watched him play, and everyone has thoughts on Nick Kurrios.
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Speaker 1: Some people love him, some.
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Speaker 6: People hate him. And I used to hate him, and
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Speaker 6: I've sort of he's grown on me in recent years
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Speaker 6: because the one thing I've always hated about curios is
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Speaker 6: that he is so talented, right, he just has so
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Speaker 6: much abundant natural talent. But because he's got so much talent,
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Speaker 6: he's never felt the need to put in the work
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Speaker 6: to take it that little bit further that would make
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Speaker 6: him one of, if not the best, in the world.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Wimbledon finalist for heaven's.
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Speaker 6: Sake, right, he is a seriously good tennis player, and
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Speaker 6: if he just took it that bit more seriously, I
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Speaker 6: reckon he could have won Grand Slams and done so
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Speaker 6: much better than he did. And that frustrates me. But
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Speaker 6: everyone has a thought about Nick curios And you know,
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Speaker 6: just like on the tennis court, when he's in the
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Speaker 6: commentary box, he's not going to pull his punches. He's
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Speaker 6: going to say the things that other people wouldn't dare
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Speaker 6: to say. He's going to make criticisms that other people
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Speaker 6: wouldn't make, and that's what you want in a sports commentation.
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Speaker 3: You'd watch the tennis to see him play. You'd also
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Speaker 3: watch the tennis to hear him commentake exactly just on
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Speaker 3: him as an athlete. My son played basketball with him,
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Speaker 3: just a game of street ball that curios happened to
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Speaker 3: be there, and my son, who's not shabby on the
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Speaker 3: basketball court, reckoned. He is just an unbelievable athlete, said
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Speaker 3: he was a total freak. But this is the problem
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Speaker 3: when sports organizations start taking a stance on different issues.
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Speaker 3: The AFL have just had a problem with this because
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Speaker 3: they've just taken a big stance against violence against women.
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Speaker 3: It was around the same weekend that Wayne Carey was
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Speaker 3: going to be inducted into the new South Wales Football
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Now Wayne Carey's got his own pass
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Speaker 3: to deal with and so all of a sudden that
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Speaker 3: was a big no no. So sports organizations do get
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Speaker 3: into this problem where do we honor someone purely for
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Speaker 3: their sporting ability and ignore character issues or are character
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Speaker 3: issues relevant when we're honoring them or giving them a
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Speaker 3: platform to commentate or receive awards for their sport.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it becomes that whole are they a role
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Speaker 6: model thing. But you know, seriously, he shoved his girlfriend
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Speaker 6: when he was trying to get away from an argument.
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Speaker 6: I don't think that's the problem here. But I'm getting
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Speaker 6: the popcorn out because Nick Kirios in the commentary box.
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Speaker 1: If this is any.
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Speaker 6: Start to what his career is going to be like,
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Speaker 6: there will be fantastic. Let's go to South Australia now
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Speaker 6: and let's talk about payroll tax, which it has to
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Speaker 6: be one of the worst taxes in the world. It
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Speaker 6: is a tax on employment and you'd think any government
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Speaker 6: anywhere would want any.
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Speaker 1: Business to employ more people.
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Speaker 6: But if you employ too many people and you pay
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Speaker 6: them too much in this country, you get penalized for
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Speaker 6: doing so. Last year, multiple states or every state in
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Speaker 6: the country now started charging doctors payroll tax. Previously, it
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Speaker 6: was thought that doctors were largely exempt. And the problem
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Speaker 6: here was that in medical centers where doctors rent rooms,
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Speaker 6: the medical center pays for the receptionists and they pay for.
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Speaker 1: The nurses, etc.
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Speaker 6: But the doctors are essentially contractors. They're not employed by
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Speaker 6: the medical center. They rent the room to work in there.
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Speaker 6: So the medical centers figured we don't have to pay
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Speaker 6: payroll tax on those doctors.
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Speaker 1: They're not our employer.
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Speaker 6: Then there was a case in the New South Wales
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Speaker 6: Supreme Court that said no, you do have to pay
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Speaker 6: that tax, and all of a sudden, medical centers all
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Speaker 6: over the country were up for hundreds of thousands of
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Speaker 6: dollars in tax that they never thought they'd have to pay.
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Speaker 6: And that means medical centers closing down. And we all
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Speaker 6: know how.
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Speaker 1: Difficult it is to get a doctor's.
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Speaker 6: Appointment now, a littlone, a bulk build doctor's appointment without
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Speaker 6: even more places closing.
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Speaker 1: So South Australia.
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Speaker 6: Has come up with an ingenious idea which is that
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Speaker 6: we will exempt doctors who bulg bill from having to
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Speaker 6: pay the payroll tax.
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Speaker 1: Take a look.
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Speaker 6: This is the Health Minister of South Australia, Chris Picton,
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Speaker 6: announcing this policy today.
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Speaker 4: I think this is an excellent arrangement which helps to
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Speaker 4: make sure that our gps are sustainable and helps to
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Speaker 4: incentivize practices to Bob Bill.
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Speaker 6: And sure we all want to incentivize practices to bug Bill,
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Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera, but let's talk about what this
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Speaker 6: really is. State Government's reduced a new tax. Then they
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Speaker 6: came up with a way for people to not pay
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Speaker 6: that tax, and they called it a tax cut, and
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Speaker 6: that is exactly what the Health minister said today. He
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Speaker 6: said that this was tax relief. I'm not sure you
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Speaker 6: really can call a tax relief when you brought the
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Speaker 6: tax in last year, then you come up with a
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Speaker 6: loophole and you go, how good are we We've come
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Speaker 6: up with a way.
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Speaker 1: Not to pay the tax anymore. You didn't have to
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Speaker 1: levy it in the first place. Like sure, there was
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Speaker 1: this Supreme.
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Speaker 6: Court case in New South Wales that said that medical
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Speaker 6: centers are liable to pay payroll tax. But every treasurer
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Speaker 6: in the country the next day, with the stroke of
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Speaker 6: a pen, could have just said, our revenue officers are
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Speaker 6: not going to collect the payroll tax from doctors' offices.
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Speaker 6: They could have done that, but they chose not to.
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Speaker 6: And now they've patting themselves on the back for finding.
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Speaker 3: A way to find people, well, look, you know, do
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Speaker 3: not pay the Is it a tax cut or is
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Speaker 3: it an embarrassing admission of ranking competence, Because of course
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Speaker 3: that policy has meant a lot of people can't afford
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Speaker 3: to go to the doctors. So imagine making sick people
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Speaker 3: pay more to go to the doctors, not just in
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Speaker 3: the middle of a cost of living crisis, but in
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Speaker 3: the middle of a hospital's crisis in South Australia, in
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Speaker 3: the middle of an ambulance ramping crisis. It was a
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Speaker 3: terrible policy to begin with. But what they've done is.
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Speaker 4: Payold tax across the board is a terrible.
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Speaker 2: Point, particularly in this instance.
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Speaker 3: What they've done is they've set you on fire and
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Speaker 3: then when you started screaming, they've sprayed you with water,
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Speaker 3: and now.
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Speaker 2: They want gratitude for it.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's government in a nutshell, Mac.
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Speaker 4: But you would have thought that essential services at least
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Speaker 4: should be no payroll tax across the board. We're talking
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Speaker 4: about people seeking medical help, GPS, trying to do their job.
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Speaker 5: And here we have this.
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Speaker 4: Oh no, you guys, your heads are in the same
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Speaker 4: noose as everybody else's. Payroll tax is one of those taxes.
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Speaker 4: The more you try to learn about it, the less
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Speaker 4: it makes sense. And it is genuinely just the government
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Speaker 4: pocketing more money. It's incurred by everyone. Everyone thinks, oh no,
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Speaker 4: it's really the employer that incurs the cost, but they
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Speaker 4: already add all that up and therefore probably it's side
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Speaker 4: your wages accordingly and put up the prices of their
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Speaker 4: product accordingly. So it is another tax that is actually
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Speaker 4: incurred by everyone.
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Speaker 5: It just makes me absolutely mad.
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Speaker 4: It makes no sense whatsoever except for as a massive
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Speaker 4: revenue raiser, which is of course its main purpose in life.
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Speaker 4: But let's talk about vegan dog food because a manufacturer
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Speaker 4: is being sued by coming up with a dodgy batch
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Speaker 4: of biscuits that killed seven or that's seven dogs, seven dogs.
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Speaker 4: Sorry dogs, I'm more sorry about your owners thinking you're vegan,
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Speaker 4: what a big mistake, and making sixty dogs seriously unwell.
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Speaker 4: The people who sold these dog biscuits have paid out
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Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty two thousand dollars in damages to
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Speaker 4: thirty three dog owners. So now they're suing the manufacturer.
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Speaker 5: Saying, cough it up, bucco. These dogs' lives are on
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Speaker 5: your heads.
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Speaker 4: It's going to be really interesting to see how this
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Speaker 4: plays out and how much money they'll get for it.
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Speaker 6: But the point is, what are you doing feeding vegan
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Speaker 6: dog food dog abuse to your dog in the first place. Look,
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Speaker 6: I don't want to say your dog deserved to die,
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Speaker 6: but if you are feeding vegan dog food to your dog.
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Speaker 1: Do you not think that.
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Speaker 6: Maybe a carnivorous animal at some point might suffer some
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Speaker 6: damage from doing that, Like dogs are not naturally meant.
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Speaker 1: To eat vegan food.
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Speaker 2: Well, I love me's.
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Speaker 4: The RSPCA on this, by the way, Like we've known
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Speaker 4: since time immemorial.
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Speaker 5: Dogs eat meat, It's what they do.
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Speaker 4: And then these brain dog owners get it into the
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Speaker 4: head of.
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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, mine, mine's special. He's vegan like me. Clips.
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Speaker 3: So just before you show the clip, I think you
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Speaker 3: just hit the nail on the head.
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Speaker 2: They want to make the.
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Speaker 3: Dog vegan like themselves, and that explains why they've done it.
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Speaker 3: They have suffered a mental decline brought on by withdrawing
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Speaker 3: from meet themselves.
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Speaker 5: And now the dogs everyone.
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Speaker 3: Exactly sorry to interrupt you carry on.
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Speaker 4: Check out this clip on a morning show in the
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Speaker 4: UK with this woman had bought on her oh so
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Speaker 4: vegan dog and was extremely proud of that fact until
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Speaker 4: the hosts presented said vegan dog with the choice of a.
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Speaker 5: Bowl full of meat a bowl full of edgies.
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Speaker 7: And they've got two balls here right, One is full
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Speaker 7: of vegetables and one is full of meat.
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Speaker 2: Store storm. We hit to put the temptation in front
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Speaker 2: of you.
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Speaker 5: She's obviously going to go obviously, Oh are you little?
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Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't swear.
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Speaker 2: And there is natural.
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Speaker 4: Selection, and there is natural selection.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, God knows how long that poor dog hadn't even had.
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Speaker 5: A whiff of meat. It managed nostrils. It was probably like,
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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, all my Christmases have come at once.
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Speaker 3: If you want a vegan pet, you don't get a
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Speaker 3: rock wheeler, you get a rabbit.
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Speaker 6: Seriously, these people should be done for animal abuse. I'm
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Speaker 6: sorry you asked where the RSPCAS. The RSPCA is too
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Speaker 6: busy trying to ban jumps racing and not finding illegal
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Speaker 6: knackeries out at woggle Wogger I think is what they've
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Speaker 6: been up to. But if you are going to keep
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Speaker 6: your dog as a vegan should the dog should be
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Speaker 6: taken away and given to someone who will.
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Speaker 1: Actually look after it.
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Speaker 6: And you should be prosecuted for animal abuse because it's
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Speaker 6: just unnatural to force a helpless animal, and you know,
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Speaker 6: we know what dogs are like. People have tried it
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Speaker 6: with cats as well, But the good thing about cats
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Speaker 6: is that they're smart enough to run away and go
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Speaker 6: and find their own food sources.
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Speaker 5: When bring your.
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Speaker 1: Back, we bring back the dead rad on the bird.
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Speaker 6: But we know with dogs that they are reliant on you, right,
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Speaker 6: and you are abrogating your responsibility to that animal by
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Speaker 6: not feeding it the stuff that it is naturally bred
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Speaker 6: to eat and that it needs for nutrition. There is
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Speaker 6: just no excuse whatsoever. It's like people who try to
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Speaker 6: make their babies vegan and it's like, yeah, it has
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Speaker 6: and kids have been killed because of it, right, and
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised. Sorry, if there are dogs out
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Speaker 6: there that end up, you know, malnutrition because of female
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Speaker 6: who feed them vegan food. It is absolutely disgusting. If
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Speaker 6: you there's probably they have too many vegan viewers, to
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Speaker 6: be honest. If you're watching this on YouTube or elsewhere
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Speaker 6: and you are a vegan dog owner, just know that
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Speaker 6: you are scum of the earth, and please take your
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Speaker 6: dog to the pound so someone who will actually look
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Speaker 6: after your dog can take it and give it.
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Speaker 1: A nice life.
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Speaker 2: Please. Vegans are likely to get their vegan dogs.
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Speaker 3: Recording themselves doing CrossFit and boasting about it on social
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Speaker 3: media the next thing that they would do. I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure if Cate Blanchette is vegan, she probably is but
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Speaker 3: she seems to be pretty pro Palestinian. Check her out
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Speaker 3: at the Carnes Film Festival overnight parading on the red carpet.
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Speaker 3: Was it a fashion faux pa or was it a
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian protest. She's wearing what seems to be a
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Speaker 3: fairly simple and elegant black dress, but when she lifts
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Speaker 3: up the back of it, underneath the dress it's green,
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Speaker 3: and with the white back and of course the red carpet,
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Speaker 3: it looks very much like she's making a deliberate protest
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Speaker 3: on behalf of the Palestinians. This was a raging debate
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Speaker 3: on social media. People weren't quite sure. What's your take, Caleb,
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Speaker 3: optical illusion or do you think Cate Blanchette is making
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Speaker 3: a protest? She's not immune to protesting different social causes.
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Speaker 6: No, and the argument has been made at the back
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Speaker 6: of the Dreas is actually a pale pink, so that
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Speaker 6: somehow means that it is in no way related to
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Speaker 6: the Palestinian flag. I tend to think that if if
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Speaker 6: you have gone to the effort of showing the green
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Speaker 6: bit with the white bit, knowing it's on the background
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Speaker 6: of the red carpet, that it probably was a subtle message, right,
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Speaker 6: And she has signed petitions calling for ceasefires, etc. So
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that what
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Speaker 6: she was doing.
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Speaker 1: If that's what she was.
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Speaker 6: Doing here we are talking about it, right, she has
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Speaker 6: achieved her goal, which is to create discussion, and I
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Speaker 6: suppose in that case she has garnered herself a win.
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Speaker 1: But it's a very clever way of.
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Speaker 6: Doing it without actually coming out and saying pause, you
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Speaker 6: willn't not.
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Speaker 4: Just cowardice as well, Like if you were going to
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Speaker 4: use your platform Can's Film Festival. These photos are circulated
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Speaker 4: around the globe. They're on the front of magazine's papers.
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Speaker 5: You name it.
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Speaker 4: If you're going to send such a big signal, why
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Speaker 4: wouldn't you just own it, tweet it, say something when
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Speaker 4: they interview you on the red carpet.
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Speaker 5: She knew the color of the background leave. It's the same.
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Speaker 4: Every year, so choosing the colors in her dress it
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Speaker 4: does seem pretty obvious.
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Speaker 5: But then my argument is, yet we just.
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Speaker 4: Go the whole old Kate, just say so, say where
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Speaker 4: you stand? Was your way of taking a view without
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Speaker 4: taking so much of a view that you might.
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Speaker 5: Get any pushback?
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Speaker 4: Or upset anybody, you know, people who don't support hamas
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Speaker 4: terrorists or believe in a two state solution, because those
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Speaker 4: of us with a single firing neuron, no, it's not
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Speaker 4: any kind of solution. But we know our Kate tends
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Speaker 4: to be a lefty. She was very vocal last year
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Speaker 4: about voting for the Voice in the referendum, and this
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Speaker 4: is something that she's actually quite upfront about herself. Here
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Speaker 4: she is explaining that, yeah, I'm probably a lefty.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm white privileged, I'm middle class, and I think,
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Speaker 8: you know, one can be accused of having a bit
18:56
Speaker 8: of a white savior complex. But to be perfect honest,
19:01
Speaker 8: my interaction with with refugees in the film in the
19:07
Speaker 8: field and also in resettled environments has totally changed my
19:11
Speaker 8: perspective on the world.
19:14
Speaker 4: I don't know about Cate Blanchette claiming to be middle
19:17
Speaker 4: middle at all.
19:19
Speaker 5: You're middle class. The rest of us.
19:21
Speaker 6: Are in pops, We're I think she surpassed that a
19:24
Speaker 6: little bit with the group she hangs with. Maybe maybe so.
19:28
Speaker 6: But the funniest.
19:30
Speaker 1: Thing about it all, I think is it.
19:31
Speaker 6: Is just such a typical example of the way that
19:36
Speaker 6: celebrities like to carry on about social issues, right, Because
19:39
Speaker 6: you're right. List, if she wanted to do something, not
19:42
Speaker 6: only could she come out and say something, I mean,
19:44
Speaker 6: she could get on a plane and go over to Gaza.
19:46
Speaker 1: And help distribute the.
19:49
Speaker 6: To the refugees and whatever she wants to do over there, right,
19:52
Speaker 6: But she doesn't do that. She rocks up to Can's
19:55
Speaker 6: film festival with a very expensive dress on to make
20:00
Speaker 6: her point, then switches out of that dress to put
20:03
Speaker 6: on a blaze or whatever she was wearing there to
20:05
Speaker 6: go and give a speech about how virtuous she is
20:08
Speaker 6: and her thoughts on the world, et cetera, all the
20:10
Speaker 6: while making lots of money and enjoying expensive champagne and
20:14
Speaker 6: having a wonderful time while people over in Gaza and
20:18
Speaker 6: Israel are suffering. It's just the ultimate example of how
20:21
Speaker 6: these people operate. I will lecture to you about how
20:25
Speaker 6: you should think, and I'll even admit that I'm middle class.
20:30
Speaker 2: And just on middle class.
20:31
Speaker 3: I believe if you're google Kate Blanchett you'll find she's
20:34
Speaker 3: worth about ninety five million dollars.
20:35
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, I mean that's how middle class.
20:37
Speaker 1: Well, well, look, let's be perfectly honest.
20:39
Speaker 6: If you want to buy a house in Sydney these days,
20:42
Speaker 6: ninety five million dollars may well classify you as middle class.
20:46
Speaker 6: But you know, come on, we just don't need the lecture,
20:49
Speaker 6: do we seriously? Anyway, let's move on to our favorite
20:53
Speaker 6: topic here energy.
20:55
Speaker 1: I know you're.
20:57
Speaker 6: Groaning in your chair, going, oh no, not again, renewable energy.
21:01
Speaker 6: But we must talk about it because we've had a
21:02
Speaker 6: small win today, which is of course that are rearing
21:06
Speaker 6: one of the biggest power stations in the country, certainly
21:10
Speaker 6: the biggest in New South Wales today has been given
21:13
Speaker 6: another two years before it goes off to the doggers.
21:17
Speaker 6: It is, of course a coal fired energy plant. It
21:20
Speaker 6: supplies nearly a quarter of the power in New South Wales,
21:25
Speaker 6: so it's pretty important to the energy grid, and we
21:28
Speaker 6: know renewables are not coming online as fast as we
21:31
Speaker 6: need them. The Energy Market Operator put out a report
21:34
Speaker 6: or an update to its ten year report the other
21:37
Speaker 6: day that said many parts of the country are going
21:40
Speaker 6: to struggle with the level of power they have in summer,
21:43
Speaker 6: particularly because South Australia has shut down gas generation, so
21:48
Speaker 6: we need to keep low and behold fossil fuels online.
21:53
Speaker 6: So the New South Wales state government has agreed to
21:55
Speaker 6: underwrite the losses of the Eraring power station for the
21:59
Speaker 6: next two years to basically make sure your lights don't
22:03
Speaker 6: turn off. And it's interesting because earlier in the week,
22:05
Speaker 6: Chris Min's, the Premier of New South Wales, came out
22:08
Speaker 6: and basically said, look, I just want to tell all
22:10
Speaker 6: the ecoactivists the best way to kill.
22:13
Speaker 1: Renewable energy is to go too.
22:15
Speaker 6: Fast, because a they won't have enough people won't have
22:18
Speaker 6: enough power to turn their lights on, and b they're
22:21
Speaker 6: going to see the shock in their power bill.
22:22
Speaker 1: If you want to turn people.
22:24
Speaker 6: Off renewable energy, the best thing you can do is
22:27
Speaker 6: have lots of it. Two days later, there's subsidies for
22:30
Speaker 6: a coal fired power station. A Victoria is having to
22:34
Speaker 6: do exactly the same thing with the loy Yang They
22:37
Speaker 6: have to keep it on longer, and your lawn as
22:39
Speaker 6: well because they simply don't have the renewable energy online.
22:43
Speaker 6: Surely it proves that our net zero goals are a
22:47
Speaker 6: total joke.
22:48
Speaker 1: We're not going to meet them. We all know that
22:50
Speaker 1: everyone in.
22:51
Speaker 5: The energy sector now, every single one of them.
22:53
Speaker 6: We're keeping the col fired power plants going longer than
22:57
Speaker 6: we expected why don't we just say, yep, ain't going
23:00
Speaker 6: to happen. Let's just continue situation normal.
23:04
Speaker 2: Please.
23:04
Speaker 4: No, Instead they say, oh, it ain't going to happen.
23:06
Speaker 5: So we've all got to.
23:07
Speaker 4: Try harder and do better and faster and more and
23:12
Speaker 4: bigger subsidies, and you guys, your energy bills just keep
23:16
Speaker 4: going up.
23:16
Speaker 5: We've got to do it. We've got to do it.
23:17
Speaker 5: We've got to make the targets.
23:19
Speaker 4: Even though every expert at this point has simply said, look,
23:23
Speaker 4: we can get there eventually, but right now, no, and
23:26
Speaker 4: the targets that you've sent, you're going to end up
23:28
Speaker 4: in the dark. I think we should start taking bets
23:31
Speaker 4: because right now a wearing is open for an extra
23:34
Speaker 4: two years, how many of us actually think it's going
23:38
Speaker 4: to be two years? Watch a blowout to four, maybe six,
23:42
Speaker 4: could be ten, and by then we'll all just be
23:44
Speaker 4: like and at that point, what we've paid out to
23:49
Speaker 4: keep it up, as they say, they're not paying out
23:52
Speaker 4: any extra unless it incurs a loss, and then the
23:54
Speaker 4: state government will give two hundred and twenty five million
23:58
Speaker 4: per year per year. But if that adds up, we
24:02
Speaker 4: might as well have just built a brand new coal
24:04
Speaker 4: fired power station, or put it toward New clear because
24:09
Speaker 4: that's going to be a tidy sum that is just
24:11
Speaker 4: going to keep climbing.
24:12
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about this is they've extended it for
24:15
Speaker 3: two years, right until August twenty twenty seven, which is
24:18
Speaker 3: just a couple of months after the next New South
24:20
Speaker 3: Wales state election, So that's rather convenient. It guarantee the
24:24
Speaker 3: Labor government won't have blackouts to deal with. But they've
24:27
Speaker 3: also got an option for it to be extended in
24:29
Speaker 3: another two years beyond that, so Lizia definitely on the money.
24:33
Speaker 3: It won't be two years, It'll more likely before and
24:36
Speaker 3: perhaps longer again. But I mean, Monty Python could not
24:39
Speaker 3: have scripted a comedy as good as our energy policy.
24:44
Speaker 3: First we've subsidized renewables, which.
24:46
Speaker 2: We were told we're going to be cheap.
24:48
Speaker 3: Then we subsidized householders to afford the renewables, which they
24:52
Speaker 3: were told we're going to be cheap. And now we're
24:54
Speaker 3: subsidizing col fired power stations, which our whole energy policy
24:58
Speaker 3: is centered around closing.
25:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're subsidizing them to stay open.
25:02
Speaker 6: And I've written my polities and in the advertiser about
25:05
Speaker 6: this tomorrow and how absurd it is that South Australia
25:08
Speaker 6: shutting down its gas generation at a time when just
25:12
Speaker 6: a few weeks ago the Federal Resources Minister Madeline King
25:16
Speaker 6: was writing in the AFR that gas is an important
25:19
Speaker 6: part of our energy future.
25:21
Speaker 1: Sow the Australia says no.
25:23
Speaker 6: Then you've got the Labor Premier, as I said before,
25:25
Speaker 6: of New South Wales, saying the best way to get
25:27
Speaker 6: rid of renewable energy is to have too much of it.
25:30
Speaker 6: Then a couple of days later he subsidizes a coal
25:32
Speaker 6: fired power station. And then you have all these people
25:35
Speaker 6: who of course put solar panels on their roofs, thinking
25:38
Speaker 6: that they were helping the environment and feeding their energy
25:41
Speaker 6: into the grid.
25:41
Speaker 1: Now they're being.
25:42
Speaker 6: Told that they're actually going to have to pay to
25:45
Speaker 6: feed their energy into the grid.
25:47
Speaker 1: Have we woken up yet?
25:49
Speaker 6: The whole renewable thing has been a total dud. We
25:53
Speaker 6: subsidized the renewables, then we subsidized the coal, and then
25:56
Speaker 6: all the people who thought they were helping the environment
25:58
Speaker 6: by generating soul power.
26:01
Speaker 5: It is doing.
26:03
Speaker 4: And yet here is Energy Minister Chris Bowen staring down
26:07
Speaker 4: the lens, assuring us all not like, oh, we've made
26:10
Speaker 4: this arrangement.
26:11
Speaker 5: So you guys aren't in the dark. Don't worry, We're
26:14
Speaker 5: looking after you in that respect. No.
26:16
Speaker 4: No, The assurance that he wants to make sure that
26:19
Speaker 4: everyone can sleep in their beds tonight just fine. Is
26:23
Speaker 4: a rearing will not be open a day longer than necessary.
26:27
Speaker 5: We're still shutting it as soon as possible.
26:30
Speaker 7: The Iraan power station should be open, not a day
26:33
Speaker 7: longer than it should be, and closed.
26:35
Speaker 2: On a day earlier than it should.
26:36
Speaker 7: I think the South Wales government has done a good
26:37
Speaker 7: job in negotiating that. Ensuring that you have that energy
26:43
Speaker 7: in the system as we make that transition, is I
26:46
Speaker 7: think appropriate.
26:46
Speaker 1: You.
26:48
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so glad to agree that not leaving millions
26:52
Speaker 4: of Australians in the dark for the sake of your
26:55
Speaker 4: green dream actually isn't appropriate.
26:58
Speaker 5: And this is a good call all.
27:00
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm like, well, that's generous off here, mate.
27:03
Speaker 6: And by the way, the federal government today put aside
27:06
Speaker 6: five hundred and fifty million dollars for batteries as well,
27:09
Speaker 6: because you know, we need a national battery strategy. Apparently
27:12
Speaker 6: because we produce something like half of the world's lithium, right,
27:15
Speaker 6: we don't make any batteries in this country we send,
27:17
Speaker 6: we sell the lithium to China so we can buy
27:20
Speaker 6: the batteries back from them to put on the walls
27:22
Speaker 6: of our houses and in electric cars, et cetera. Because,
27:25
Speaker 6: of course, if you want to have a solar panel
27:27
Speaker 6: on your roof, the only way to make it viable
27:29
Speaker 6: now is to have a battery on the side of
27:31
Speaker 6: your house. Otherwise you're paying to feed that renewable energy
27:34
Speaker 6: back into the grid. But of course these batteries cost
27:37
Speaker 6: nine grand a piece, and that's nine grand for a
27:39
Speaker 6: Chinese made battery.
27:41
Speaker 1: Wait until you see what it'll.
27:42
Speaker 6: Cost to buy an Australian made battery, which of course
27:45
Speaker 6: we have to.
27:46
Speaker 1: They'll have to make it with Australian.
27:48
Speaker 6: Energy, the price of which keeps going through the roof
27:51
Speaker 6: because of the renewables that they want to store in
27:53
Speaker 6: these batteries.
27:54
Speaker 3: I just love that grab from Chris Bowen where he
27:56
Speaker 3: says that the station won't be open a day longer
27:59
Speaker 3: than it ought to be closed a day earlier than
28:01
Speaker 3: it should be, which basically means I've got no idea
28:04
Speaker 3: what's happy as long as it needs to be, making
28:07
Speaker 3: it up as we go, and when you begin to
28:09
Speaker 3: despair about the state of Australian politics, that the best
28:12
Speaker 3: thing to do is to start reading the American newspapers
28:14
Speaker 3: because it's a lot worse there.
28:16
Speaker 2: Believe it or not.
28:18
Speaker 3: Check out these Democrats from the state of Illinois. They've
28:21
Speaker 3: just tabled a bill seeking to change the word offender
28:25
Speaker 3: in their legislation to quote justice impacted individual. The bill
28:31
Speaker 3: they're referring to is the Crime Reduction Act, and by
28:35
Speaker 3: referring to criminals not as offenders but by justice impacted individuals,
28:40
Speaker 3: it seems like they're normalizing crime rather than reducing it.
28:43
Speaker 9: Have a listen, well, we don't mess with anything in
28:46
Speaker 9: terms of the term victim. We just change offender to
28:49
Speaker 9: just as impacted individual, adding the Department of Corrections, adding
28:53
Speaker 9: Human Services, adding sangmen and Cook County Adult Probation and
28:59
Speaker 9: two members. You've experience the ari system as offenders or
29:05
Speaker 9: justice impacted individual It.
29:07
Speaker 10: Might seem like a small thing. I mean, obviously changing
29:10
Speaker 10: a term can have a positive or negative impact when
29:16
Speaker 10: we do that, but I would say that over and
29:18
Speaker 10: over again, we keep changing the names for how we
29:21
Speaker 10: are referring to those who are have entered into criminal activity,
29:28
Speaker 10: and each time we make that change, each agency has
29:32
Speaker 10: to make that change on every one of their documents.
29:35
Speaker 10: So right now in the Department of Corrections, there's multiple
29:37
Speaker 10: changes that have been made, and it's costing thousands and
29:40
Speaker 10: thousands of dollars just to do a name change.
29:44
Speaker 3: That's Republican Terry Bryant making a great point that in
29:46
Speaker 3: the middle of the cost of living crisis, they're spending
29:48
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars changing a word, and they're doing it
29:52
Speaker 3: for ideological reasons.
29:53
Speaker 2: Caleb.
29:54
Speaker 3: They're trying to get away from stigmatizing criminals and having
29:58
Speaker 3: them as people who are bad, as these are people
30:01
Speaker 3: who are on their way to rehabilitation. We're moving towards
30:04
Speaker 3: nirvana and these people they're not bad people.
30:07
Speaker 2: It's just a system has been just impacted.
30:10
Speaker 4: Even me, you haven't been impacted by justice.
30:13
Speaker 2: Well, we're impacted by justice. They were sent to jail.
30:16
Speaker 2: That was the impact.
30:19
Speaker 6: So if someone will you don't want to stigmatize criminals
30:24
Speaker 6: because we need.
30:24
Speaker 1: More of them, right, and that's just common sense.
30:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, we wouldn't want to make it seem yealing.
30:29
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, don't want to upset their self esteem.
30:33
Speaker 2: It's the time they've been in preschool.
30:35
Speaker 3: Their self esteem has been the one thing we must coddle.
30:38
Speaker 6: Look, it's a legitimate career move. You know, what's the problem, guys,
30:42
Speaker 6: I'm just a you know, I'm just a justice impacted
30:45
Speaker 6: What do you mean you don't want to date me.
30:46
Speaker 1: I'm just a just packed the justice impact. You won't
30:49
Speaker 1: employ me.
30:50
Speaker 6: I'm a justice impacted into big old Thank you very much.
30:54
Speaker 2: So we'd love to employ We're going through your resume.
30:56
Speaker 3: There seems to be a ten year gap where what
30:59
Speaker 3: happened there.
30:59
Speaker 1: I was impacted by justice for teen years, you know.
31:03
Speaker 6: But so if someone who is a criminal is a
31:07
Speaker 6: justice impacted individual, does that mean that what we would
31:10
Speaker 6: now call a victim, which is a six letter word
31:14
Speaker 6: one word, is now.
31:16
Speaker 1: An individual who has had an interaction with a justice
31:19
Speaker 1: impacted individual.
31:21
Speaker 6: We're seriously, have we gone mad? Have they checked what's
31:25
Speaker 6: in the water in Illinois? Because I think there might
31:28
Speaker 6: be too much lead in that water.
31:30
Speaker 4: I think there's madness throughout the water in the United
31:33
Speaker 4: States of America, as we know, their border crisis has
31:36
Speaker 4: been left to fend for itself. Over nine million illegal
31:41
Speaker 4: aliens have poured over the border. The southern border between
31:45
Speaker 4: Mexico and the United States of America. Now, a few
31:48
Speaker 4: of the Republicans haven't shut up about this for as
31:51
Speaker 4: long as it's been happening. We've even showed you footage
31:55
Speaker 4: of the border guards cutting barbed wire to allow these
32:00
Speaker 4: illegal aliens through when they did that on the order
32:04
Speaker 4: of the Biden administration.
32:07
Speaker 5: The Biden administration knows that.
32:09
Speaker 4: This is happening, but is in fact facilitating it. Well,
32:13
Speaker 4: one very frustrated journal where years into this dilemma, now
32:18
Speaker 4: had the goal to ask the White House Press.
32:22
Speaker 5: Secretary what the heck is going on?
32:25
Speaker 4: Why isn't the President doing anything about it?
32:29
Speaker 5: Here's their response.
32:32
Speaker 7: The President has the authority to do something about this.
32:36
Speaker 1: Why should he have to do it?
32:37
Speaker 10: The latterly, why shouldn't we do it in a legislative way.
32:41
Speaker 10: You're right, he took many executive actions before.
32:44
Speaker 4: So the president has the power to stop this tomorrow,
32:50
Speaker 4: just issue an.
32:51
Speaker 5: Edict make it happen. And there's his press.
32:54
Speaker 4: Secretary going, why should he have to do this by himself?
32:58
Speaker 4: She suggested, why can't we do this via legislation, you know,
33:01
Speaker 4: put it to the House, have it go through Congress,
33:05
Speaker 4: as if that would or wouldn't get up. This is
33:08
Speaker 4: a clown show actually defending the president for what has
33:13
Speaker 4: been the greatest breach of United States any kind of security,
33:20
Speaker 4: national security. People's hometowns as well as cities are now
33:24
Speaker 4: overrun with.
33:25
Speaker 5: These illegal immigrants.
33:27
Speaker 4: It's costing the American taxpayer hundreds of thousands of dollars
33:31
Speaker 4: every single day to accommodate them, feed them, try to
33:35
Speaker 4: get them jobs. Some of them have no desire to
33:38
Speaker 4: be employed. And this is the Biden administration's response.
33:43
Speaker 3: What shocked me is that Biden apparently is considering using
33:48
Speaker 3: his executive powers if the number of illegals crossing the
33:51
Speaker 3: board exceeds four thousand per day.
33:54
Speaker 5: No.
33:55
Speaker 3: I think if there was one person per day crossing illegally,
33:58
Speaker 3: you've got a problem. But apparently it's not a problem
34:00
Speaker 3: until you've got four thousand and one per day.
34:03
Speaker 6: But let's be real here, right, So Trump used executive
34:07
Speaker 6: orders to close the border and put restrictions on people
34:10
Speaker 6: who had already crossed the border. Biden became president. Within
34:14
Speaker 6: a month of becoming president, he used executive orders to
34:18
Speaker 6: undo all of those orders and memorandums that Donald Trump
34:22
Speaker 6: has issued. So he's already used executive orders when it
34:26
Speaker 6: comes to the border. He could always issue another executive
34:30
Speaker 6: order when it comes to the border. But no, no, no,
34:34
Speaker 6: it should be done legislatively. Why just so we can
34:38
Speaker 6: let a few more people cross the border while you're
34:41
Speaker 6: waiting for that legislation to go through.
34:43
Speaker 1: And that's the point. He doesn't want to stem the
34:46
Speaker 1: flow of people.
34:48
Speaker 5: This is invasion by design and deliberate.
34:51
Speaker 6: The only reason that Biden would ever take action to
34:55
Speaker 6: close the border is if someone put a piece of
34:57
Speaker 6: paper in front of him that said you are guarante
35:00
Speaker 6: heed to win the next presidential election if you close
35:03
Speaker 6: the border. That is the only thing that would change
35:06
Speaker 6: his mind. Because the long term goal is you bring
35:08
Speaker 6: all of these people in.
35:09
Speaker 1: You hope one day they become a citizen.
35:12
Speaker 6: You give them jobs, and you put them up in hotels,
35:14
Speaker 6: and they are how wonderful is America? While everyone else starves?
35:18
Speaker 6: And then you hope one day they've become a citizen
35:20
Speaker 6: and therefore a voter.
35:21
Speaker 1: And who are you going to repay?
35:22
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the.
35:23
Speaker 6: Democrats were very nice to me once upon a time,
35:26
Speaker 6: and let me come to their wonderful country.
35:28
Speaker 1: Who am I going to vote for? Next?
35:30
Speaker 5: Way?
35:30
Speaker 1: He keeps letting them out.
35:31
Speaker 5: That all's got to know.
35:32
Speaker 4: With every passing day, the average Americans have been watching
35:36
Speaker 4: this happen for years now, this invasion by design.
35:39
Speaker 5: That is what it is.
35:41
Speaker 4: And that's all Trump has to talk about all the
35:44
Speaker 4: way to the White House, because Americans are sick to
35:48
Speaker 4: death of this and watching their own country transform before
35:52
Speaker 4: their eyes, not for the better. That's only has to
35:54
Speaker 4: talk about. It's a winning strategy. Nobody is voting for
35:59
Speaker 4: Biden on borders.
36:00
Speaker 3: No, what if there's a bunch of conservative Christians who
36:03
Speaker 3: live in the right to life and so on crossing
36:06
Speaker 3: the border.
36:06
Speaker 2: You reckon, Biden, shut the borders. I reckon. We're going
36:12
Speaker 2: to go to a break.
36:12
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
36:15
Speaker 3: including multimillion dollars sobering up centers in Melbourne completely empty.
36:19
Speaker 3: What's going on that's coming up in a moment, they're
36:21
Speaker 3: all drack.
36:26
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
36:27
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. Okay,
36:29
Speaker 3: if you've got the Herald Son from Melbourne.
36:31
Speaker 1: Indeed, what a great headline.
36:33
Speaker 6: Totally wasted and next to a scooter of beer there
36:37
Speaker 6: a multi million dollars sobering up centers are sitting largely empty,
36:41
Speaker 6: with just four hundred and seventeen people checking in over
36:44
Speaker 6: their first five months of operation. And what does that
36:47
Speaker 6: come to? An average of three people a day going
36:51
Speaker 6: to these centers in Collingwood and St Kilden. Now, this
36:55
Speaker 6: was part of the deal when they decided that they
36:58
Speaker 6: weren't going to have laws against public drunkenness anymore. So
37:03
Speaker 6: they decided, well, instead of locking people up putting in
37:05
Speaker 6: the cells for the night, we're going to have these
37:07
Speaker 6: sobering up centers.
37:08
Speaker 3: Let's never forget they introduced those laws on Melbourne.
37:11
Speaker 1: On Melbourne cop and what bitter day to introduce it.
37:13
Speaker 1: Let's be perfectly honest.
37:14
Speaker 6: So fifty three point four million dollars into these sobering
37:17
Speaker 6: up centers and they've had less than five hundred.
37:20
Speaker 1: People go through their doors.
37:23
Speaker 6: What are people just wandering around the streets of Melbourne
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Speaker 6: drunk out of their brains? Or might it be that
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Speaker 6: in the first place, the number of people who were
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Speaker 6: getting locked up for public drunkenness was pretty damn low,
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Speaker 6: and there was no cause for these sobering up centers
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Speaker 6: to begin with.
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Speaker 4: No, it's a perfect example of that knee jerk policy
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Speaker 4: that we always talk about something atrocious is seen to happen,
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Speaker 4: I e. Melbourne Cup, Oh the degeneracy, so much drunkenness.
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Speaker 4: Let's do this now we look awesome. But there's absolutely no.
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Speaker 5: Way to justify this.
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Speaker 4: Over fifty three million the Allen government is now pouring
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Speaker 4: into them despite.
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Speaker 5: Those dismal numbers.
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Speaker 4: So no one is using this, and they're still committed
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Speaker 4: to pouring that money into them over the next two years.
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Speaker 5: Just shut up shop. Nobody's using them. Why wasays taxpayer money.
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Speaker 3: I find it hard to understand how they thought anyone
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Speaker 3: would use them in the first place. If you're drunk
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Speaker 3: and you're offered, we can drive you home, or we
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Speaker 3: can take you to a sobering up center with a
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Speaker 3: whole bunch of other else said, of course.
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Speaker 2: You're going to go home. What were they think of?
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Speaker 3: Some of these sobering up centers, by the way, were
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Speaker 3: for Indigenous people only, and they've not been particularly frequented either.
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Speaker 2: So the whole policy is just.
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Speaker 6: I'm going to assume that whoever dreamed up the idea
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Speaker 6: of these sobering up centers probably should have been in
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Speaker 6: the sobering up center themselves at the time, because they're
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Speaker 6: certainly spending like drunken sailors.
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Speaker 5: Well they're still not sobering up. It's just our money anyway,
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Speaker 5: so who.
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Speaker 4: Cares, right, it's just taxpayer dollar, So go for your life.
38:54
Speaker 4: Alan government to the front page of the Australia now
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Speaker 4: more chaotic than coherent. PM under fire on ICC, Anthony
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Speaker 4: Albanezi has refused to say whether Australia would enforce the
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Speaker 4: International Criminal Court arrest warrants against TOMP Israeli officials, while
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Speaker 4: declaring in a chaotic press conference that his government had
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Speaker 4: adopted a coherent and principled position on the war in Gaza.
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Speaker 5: What position is he referring.
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Speaker 1: To, I don't know, well, the one in his head. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: nobody even.
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Speaker 4: Knows what this government's actual position is. We certainly know
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Speaker 4: it's not staunchly pro Israel.
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Speaker 5: But every other day he's.
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Speaker 4: Got some minister or backbencher breaking rank saying.
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Speaker 5: From the river to the sea.
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Speaker 4: After he said, guys, don't say that, Okay, that part
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Speaker 4: we're ruling out.
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Speaker 5: No, no, still going for it. He's got frontbenchers who.
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Speaker 4: Are out and out supportive of Gaza and therefore, or
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Speaker 4: I would argue Hamas, there is absolutely nothing coherent about
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Speaker 4: this government's approach and that has been the case since
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Speaker 4: October seven.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's about as coherent as a Joe Barden speech really,
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Speaker 6: because we had the PM the other day saying, oh,
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Speaker 6: well it's not my place to comment on international court cases.
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Speaker 6: I don't even talk about local court cases. Then that
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Speaker 6: night Pennywong, the Foreign Minister, came out and said we
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Speaker 6: support the ICC doing whatever the ICC wants to do.
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Speaker 6: Now the Prime Minister says, well, I don't really know
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Speaker 6: whether we'd enforced and arrest were like coherent.
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Speaker 2: It's not coherent.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you want incoherent, listen to this. In the article,
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Speaker 3: it says asked whether Australia supported the ICC, mister Albanezi replied,
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Speaker 3: the ICC exists.
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Speaker 6: Pow.
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Speaker 5: Wow, and do you support their right to exist? Prime Minister,
40:55
Speaker 5: I'm like another democratic nation in the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, just keep saying the government has for
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Speaker 4: days defended the ICC's independence. Yet we're not talking about
41:09
Speaker 4: their independence. We're asking you do you stand with them
41:15
Speaker 4: saying they're going to arrest net and Yahoo and war
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Speaker 4: crimes have been committed.
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Speaker 5: That is the question. This is just pure gas.
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Speaker 4: Lighting and then having the temerity, after saying the ICC exists,
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Speaker 4: to say.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no.
41:28
Speaker 4: Our approach is completely coherent. It is very straightforward. It's
41:33
Speaker 4: in black and white options a lot about the ICC.
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Speaker 3: They're about Australian policy and Australian public have the right
41:41
Speaker 3: to know what does our government think on these matters?
41:45
Speaker 3: And as for his refusal to say whether or not
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Speaker 3: he would enforce an arrest warrant on Benjamin Nett and Yahoo,
41:51
Speaker 3: he's the leader of our major ally in the Middle East,
41:54
Speaker 3: didn't he last?
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Speaker 2: No way to treat your friend.
41:58
Speaker 6: Look, I'm just so glad that the Prime Minister has
42:01
Speaker 6: given me exactly the answer I need. Next time someone
42:05
Speaker 6: says so like, did do you really get along with
42:08
Speaker 6: Lizen James off Air? And I'll just say, listen, James exist.
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Speaker 3: Look well, since I exist, let's go to the front
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Speaker 3: page of the Career do you really well?
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Speaker 2: Who knows?
42:21
Speaker 3: Social media pushing kids to skip school? Teen body shame
42:25
Speaker 3: Crisis of Course News Limited papers have been leading a
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Speaker 3: campaign against social media's effects on kids. The article reads,
42:34
Speaker 3: nearly half of all Australian high school students have skipped
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Speaker 3: school due to poor body image, and the majority of
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Speaker 3: them report that social media fuelled their insecurity shock new
42:43
Speaker 3: Butterfly Foundation research has revealed. Now the Butterfly Foundation Foundation
42:49
Speaker 3: surveyed three thousand kids aged twelve to eighteen. Fifty seven
42:54
Speaker 3: percent said they were dissatisfied with the way they looked,
42:57
Speaker 3: which I would have thought was rather low for teenagers.
42:59
Speaker 3: I would have thought it's probably higher than that.
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Speaker 4: It's all the blokes being like, ah, I'm God's gift.
43:05
Speaker 4: I'm fine, mate, it's all the girls pulling down that number.
43:08
Speaker 3: But sixty two percent said social media did make them
43:11
Speaker 3: feel worse, though hardly any said it affected their use
43:15
Speaker 3: of social media, so they were willing to admit, social
43:18
Speaker 3: media makes us feel worse about ourselves, but we still
43:20
Speaker 3: use social media despite the fact it's depressing us. But
43:24
Speaker 3: fifty percent of kids staying away from school because they
43:27
Speaker 3: feel embarrassed by their physique fueled by social media is
43:32
Speaker 3: hardly a good thing for.
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Speaker 6: I suspect the phenomenon exists and has always existed. Social
43:39
Speaker 6: media just exacerbates it, you know. Twenty years ago, the
43:42
Speaker 6: discussion was about whether Victoria's Secret Models and Supermodels, et
43:47
Speaker 6: cetera were creating body image problems for teenagers.
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Speaker 2: About to say what school were you going to?
43:51
Speaker 6: Because they well, I didn't have Victoria's secret models.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Some of them might have grown up
43:57
Speaker 1: to be, but I haven't heard from them since then.
43:59
Speaker 1: But the problem was that they all wanted to be
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Speaker 1: rake thin. Right. This was supposedly the body image ideal. Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, it's.
44:08
Speaker 6: What you see on social media, and a lot of
44:09
Speaker 6: what you see on social media is completely docted because
44:13
Speaker 6: of filters that people use when they take these photos.
44:16
Speaker 6: And interestingly, there was a story on the front of
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Speaker 6: the papers yesterday which we didn't get to last night,
44:21
Speaker 6: but it was around the fact that Mark Zuckerberg, the
44:25
Speaker 6: boss of Meta, which owns Facebook, personally vetoed a plan
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Speaker 6: to ban certain filters on Facebook that allow you to
44:33
Speaker 6: basically look like you've had plastic surgery.
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Speaker 1: Right, Because of course, it's.
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Speaker 6: A weird hamster in the wheel situation where you know
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Speaker 6: it hurts, but you keep going back because you get
44:46
Speaker 6: the dopamine hit every time you go on social media.
44:48
Speaker 6: But if it wasn't social media, it'd be something else.
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Speaker 3: And that's a problem with social media. You're getting everybody
44:52
Speaker 3: else's highlights reel you never get. You're not getting most
44:55
Speaker 3: reality themselves on a bad day, and so you're not
44:58
Speaker 3: comparing apples with apples.
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Speaker 4: Said it once, I'll say it a thousand times more.
45:02
Speaker 4: I'm sure as we keep watching this play out that
45:06
Speaker 4: we've known this for a very long time. We've known
45:08
Speaker 4: this for years and years and years. The data has
45:10
Speaker 4: been completely comprehensive, unlike our government's position on the conflict
45:14
Speaker 4: in the Middle East. But it's now that they want
45:18
Speaker 4: to do something about it. It's now that they're going
45:20
Speaker 4: so hard on it. And the reason for this is
45:24
Speaker 4: in order to implement this. That's where the digital idea
45:27
Speaker 4: which they just passed last week. Funny that how it's
45:30
Speaker 4: also beautifully timed, is going to come into play. Because
45:33
Speaker 4: the only way to enforce the ban on social media
45:36
Speaker 4: that they're talking about for underaged kids they're now talking
45:40
Speaker 4: about anyone under the age of sixteen not being allowed
45:43
Speaker 4: on there, is to use something like a digital ID.
45:47
Speaker 4: The Morrison government already talked about it in twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 4: using a passport of sorts in order to use the internet,
45:55
Speaker 4: so we know who you are, we know that you're
45:58
Speaker 4: over sixteen, and we allow you access to your socials
46:01
Speaker 4: and everything else on the internet. So to me, it
46:04
Speaker 4: just seems like a very clear cut case because again
46:07
Speaker 4: we've known this for as long as social media has
46:10
Speaker 4: been around, that this is massively detrimental for our young people.
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Speaker 4: They haven't cared and they haven't done anything about it
46:16
Speaker 4: for years.
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Speaker 5: And years and years.
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Speaker 4: Now they want to roll this out as the reason
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Speaker 4: to implement something as drastic as a ban. And what
46:25
Speaker 4: does implementing such a band like that require, oh, a
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Speaker 4: solution that we've been waiting to roll out for absolutely ages.
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Speaker 6: Asked about whether social media was a problem, Anthony Albanezi said,
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Speaker 6: social media exists very quickly. Before we get to the
46:39
Speaker 6: break the cans post tomorrow, crocodile accident is the headline.
46:43
Speaker 6: The state's environmental body is investigating reports to Saltwater crocodiles
46:48
Speaker 6: were accidentally quote unquote released into the Barren River.
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Speaker 1: Accidentally released.
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Speaker 6: How does a crocodile just sort of woops happen to
46:59
Speaker 6: be at accidentally released into the river? I mean someone
47:03
Speaker 6: just unfilled it off the back of the trailer or what.
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Speaker 3: The crocodile slipped I believe into a popular swimming area
47:10
Speaker 3: as well, we're going to go to a break when
47:11
Speaker 3: we come back.
47:12
Speaker 2: That portrait of King Charles.
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Speaker 3: You thought that was bad, wait until you see what
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Speaker 3: they've done to Princess Kate. It's coming up in a moment.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, okayleb I was not much good at art
47:25
Speaker 3: at school?
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Speaker 2: How are you?
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Speaker 6: I was absolutely I was going to use words that
47:30
Speaker 6: starts with east and eat in house.
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Speaker 1: But that's why I became a journalist. No good at Matt's,
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Speaker 1: no good at art.
47:34
Speaker 6: I can deal with words, But I mean, you saw
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Speaker 6: the King's new portrait the other day, right, all done
47:40
Speaker 6: up in redd. It's a bizarre looking by would the
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Speaker 6: King I'd be commissioning a new one, but they've done
47:46
Speaker 6: one better now. Tatler Magazine has commissioned a portrait of
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Speaker 6: Princess Catherine, the Princess of Wales.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at that thing. It does not book
47:56
Speaker 1: any Princess Catherine.
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Speaker 6: It was done by British zam ambient artist Hannah Usor.
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Speaker 1: Apparently it's based on.
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Speaker 6: Her dressing up for the first date dinner after King
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Speaker 6: Charles the third was coronated.
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Speaker 5: What is that?
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Speaker 4: Okay, wild theory that just came to mind as I'm
48:16
Speaker 4: looking at it there did.
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Speaker 5: This Is.
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Speaker 4: This artist pro the Sussexes instead of because what.
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Speaker 5: Looks more like Meghan than it does? Like, hey, it's
48:30
Speaker 5: a plant. I'm telling you that. That just occurred to me,
48:34
Speaker 5: and I think we're onto something here.
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Speaker 3: What we need to mention is the artist was in
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Speaker 3: the Melbourne Sobering Up Center.
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Speaker 6: And when I asked if she'd ever actually seen Princess
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Speaker 6: Katherine said, Princess Catherine exists.
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Speaker 3: Well just on that she had never actually seen Princess Catherine.
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Speaker 3: She did it from photographs and videos, and she claims
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Speaker 3: that she was trying to capture the strength and dignity
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Speaker 3: of the princess. She I think she achieved a sloppy
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Speaker 3: schoolgirls art project.
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Speaker 4: Well, mate, I'm good at stick figures. They're my strong point.
49:06
Speaker 4: And I still reckon I should I could have captured
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Speaker 4: Kate's likeness better than that.
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Speaker 1: So it should have just had a competition in all
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Speaker 1: the schools and you see who can come up. Oh yeah, right, well.
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Speaker 3: That's all from us, but don't go anywhere to stick around.
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Speaker 3: Coming up in just a moment is the Rita Pennehesho