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S4 E14: Josh's Team, Literally · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see you breath.
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  Speaker 1: Out in the lake effect, Breacon tables like gear would
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  Speaker 1: you here?
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  Speaker 3: Where else would you have to be?
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  Speaker 4: And do Ron Elvis in the lay Pancho.
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  Speaker 2: The members that you need to know. I won't you
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  Speaker 2: out here?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Your family?
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  Speaker 2: Where's would you have be?
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  Speaker 4: Where else would you have be?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into the Nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 3: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 3: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 3: Bills and NFL content again today, and as always, these
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  Speaker 3: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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  Speaker 4: Its ab so ridiculous, sick the show.
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  Speaker 3: I can let us up. Where's would you like to be?
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's get straight to it.
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  Speaker 5: Really really excited about tonight's episode as we really we
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  Speaker 5: approach the regular season, It's gonna be here before you
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  Speaker 5: know it.
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  Speaker 3: Bill's Mafia Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 5: You know, one of the main things that you know
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  Speaker 5: really has led to the ascension of the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 5: and the current ineration that we know is QB one
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  Speaker 5: number seventeen Josh Allen. So let's let's talk about Josh tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Let's dig into it a little bit. Joining me tonight
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  Speaker 5: as always my co host writing Shotgun Adam dumb Truck rupsick.
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  Speaker 5: How Adam on Instagram and Twitter at Adam reupsick? Are
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  Speaker 5: you p c z yk, Holla at the crew DT?
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  Speaker 5: What's good man?
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: DT? I'll have it?
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  Speaker 1: What's nicol City with some rob We're back, baby, good
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  Speaker 1: good Thursday, beautiful day was a nice, cool week up
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  Speaker 1: here in the in the rough buff It was very
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  Speaker 1: cool to start and now we're kind of cranking up
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  Speaker 1: to get get ready to go for our weekend. Gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a beautiful weekend and less than two weeks away. Baby,
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  Speaker 1: football's in the air. I was talking to you know,
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  Speaker 1: our guest, I won't, I won't, I want to spill
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  Speaker 1: it that, but talking to our guest Free show on
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  Speaker 1: you know, about summer and.
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  Speaker 2: Just really August is August is a watch.
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  Speaker 1: August is pre football, right, You're just you're getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for fantasy and you're seeing what games you're going to
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  Speaker 1: you're playing out your your football year. August really doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the plan for the next six months of football.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to be back. I'm football gets
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  Speaker 1: me excited. It's like Christmas every year. It's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: freaking awesome, man.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get out there. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: questions arounding this team this year, but ready to get
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  Speaker 2: into it tonight. And you know it. It's it's the season, baby, baby, baby,
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Click clack be back.
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  Speaker 5: And it's because you know, this show couldn't be more
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  Speaker 5: you know, aptly named, and it couldn't be more aptly timed.
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  Speaker 5: We are literally seventeen days away from kickoff Bills against
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  Speaker 5: the Arizona Capitals, So I really couldn't have planned it
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  Speaker 5: any better. And I didn't plan it like that on purpose.
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  Speaker 5: We were supposed to have him last week. He had obligations.
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  Speaker 5: We are so happy to have him this week. The
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  Speaker 5: editor in chief over at Buffalo Fan Base again the
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  Speaker 5: Official Bills Mafia podcast network that we simulcast on Justice
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  Speaker 5: General Radford how at the crew.
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  Speaker 3: Justice was good with you, big man? What's good with you?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? Fellas, thank you for having me as
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  Speaker 4: always as a job apologized about last week, but.
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  Speaker 5: Here it was absolutely man, we can't wait to get started.
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  Speaker 5: And just a personal shout out again, shout out to
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  Speaker 5: everybody who I saw it on Twitter and Instagram, stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that shouted out and even Facebook as well, wishing
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  Speaker 5: me a happy birthday last Saturday. I really appreciate the
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  Speaker 5: love from you guys, and Justice made me like a
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  Speaker 5: life little.
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  Speaker 3: Promo thing for Buffalos that touched my heart. So to be.
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  Speaker 4: Fair, I do want to say that was Jay Jordan,
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  Speaker 4: So shout out to Jay Jordans So j Jordan.
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  Speaker 5: Then I appreciate it, you know, you know, another trip
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  Speaker 5: around the sun. So I again for everybody, just I
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  Speaker 5: appreciate all the well wishes for my birthday last Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I really do appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Now now that we got that out the way, we
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  Speaker 5: have got to get down to business tonight, seventeen days
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  Speaker 5: away from kickoff DT. I named the episode the way
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  Speaker 5: that I did because QB One is you know, such
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  Speaker 5: a hot topic and he's somebody that we all look to.
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  Speaker 5: But my guest, I mean his his his handle, his
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  Speaker 5: old Twitter and Instagram handle is at ja seventeen MVP,
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  Speaker 5: and he's been you know, really you know, holding that
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  Speaker 5: torch for him since the beginning, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: And I have to give it up to him for
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  Speaker 5: that because in the beginning, when Josh Allen was drafted
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  Speaker 5: and it didn't come out as Josh rose and I
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  Speaker 5: fell to.
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  Speaker 3: My knees at the bar.
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  Speaker 5: I was I'm going to wing night tonight at als DT,
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  Speaker 5: and I fell to my knees, like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 5: like I cannot believe it. But boy, has he really
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  Speaker 5: shown who he really was. And I think that there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of different factors that come in along with
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  Speaker 5: that to getting him to the place that he's at now.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, you see him over my shoulder on
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  Speaker 5: the Magic cover, Jaya. I wanted to get your opinion
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  Speaker 5: on this, justice because you are, You're one of his
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  Speaker 5: biggest torch bearers before we get dts thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: But it was funny. I was just joking with my
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  Speaker 3: Kings the other day.
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  Speaker 5: We were going school shopping and I was talking to
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  Speaker 5: him about Remember the Titans, and I remember that movie
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  Speaker 5: and it was funny because you know, the new college
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  Speaker 5: Football Game came out and everybody's you know, talking, and
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  Speaker 5: they make these little videos where it's like we will
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  Speaker 5: be perfect in every way, when you know they're just
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  Speaker 5: pretending that they're talking to their old team and stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that, and those just crack me up because I
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  Speaker 5: love that game and I love the college football scene.
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  Speaker 5: But another line from that movie is an interesting one
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  Speaker 5: and it relates to tonight's episode. Attitude reflects leadership, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's important because of the fact that people
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  Speaker 5: follow you and on a fifty three man roster with
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  Speaker 5: grown men a lot of a millionaires, and even the
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  Speaker 5: veteran minimum is around a million dollars, You've.
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  Speaker 3: Got to be a leader from the front, from the back.
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  Speaker 5: And it's interesting because Josh Allen has been called upon
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  Speaker 5: to be the leader, and this really is his team.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I named the episode the way that I did.
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  Speaker 4: You justice, Yeah, he absolutely is the leader. It's funny
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned that. I remember I was watching Infinity War
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  Speaker 4: and I saw the be traded up to seven Josh Allen. Yep,
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: I was so mad.
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  Speaker 4: And I do want to say that to be fair,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean, objectively speaking, if you took names off
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  Speaker 4: the board and you just put straight numbers and facts
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  Speaker 4: on the paper and said, this is what this quarterback
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  Speaker 4: had to work with. This is what this quarterback had
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  Speaker 4: to work with. These are their numbers. Josh Allen has
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  Speaker 4: objectively had been the best quarterback in the league for
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  Speaker 4: the past five years. So I mean, you got to.
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  Speaker 3: Give him the benefit of the doubt, right, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Because stefan Dis was an absolutely phenomenal football player, and
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  Speaker 4: I think they he also brought a certain competitiveness that
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  Speaker 4: made people want to be better, have to be better,
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  Speaker 4: no choice in the matter, demanding it for sure, and
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  Speaker 4: I think that that energy will definitely be missed. But
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, I do think that these guys
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  Speaker 4: have learned how to become winners, you know, learn how
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  Speaker 4: to become better leaders. And you know, you got to
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  Speaker 4: realize that this is the second most winning ist team,
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  Speaker 4: only second to literally the greatest dynasty ever. I mean
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  Speaker 4: statistically the best dynasty ever. This is the only team
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  Speaker 4: that's even come close to the winning percentage, the scoring,
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  Speaker 4: the yacht like, you know what I mean. So again,
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  Speaker 4: you can't just one player fair enough to play two
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers. I feel like leaving it will hurt us,
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  Speaker 4: but ultimately I don't think it will be It'll just
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  Speaker 4: be a bump and roll. I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this is a great quarterback with a great offense, and
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  Speaker 4: you know that's going to continue to show.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll get into that tonight. Don't jump ahead. You
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  Speaker 3: got the know. I'm tasy. We'll get into that. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get into that because I've got so I I've got
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  Speaker 3: some opinions on that.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, DT, it's funny that that you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Justice talked about you know, the actual you know,
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  Speaker 5: the leadership and Digs and diff or things like that,
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  Speaker 5: and I know that that's a hot topic. But you
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  Speaker 5: know when I name the episode of the way that
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  Speaker 5: I did, it was because of the fact that there's
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  Speaker 5: really no more excuses, DT, and you've talked about it
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  Speaker 5: really since last season, and it's a situation where there's
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  Speaker 5: not really there's nothing really else that that anybody can
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  Speaker 5: look in respect to, not even just the offense. I'm
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  Speaker 5: talking about the team because because Justice is right then
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  Speaker 5: you know, Stefan Digs did bring a level of competitiveness,
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  Speaker 5: and he did bring a level of you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna stay in your ass that type
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  Speaker 5: of thing, and it kind of brought everybody's energy up,
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  Speaker 5: and that was really from the moment in the door.
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  Speaker 5: And you can't find too many people that are going
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  Speaker 5: to bad mouth them. From Dion Dawkins on down and
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  Speaker 5: the wide receiver room, nobody really bad mouth some on
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  Speaker 5: his way out the door DT, Josh has to be
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  Speaker 5: a leader from the front, and I've been calling for it,
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  Speaker 5: but you've actually been on it a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 5: And I wonder what you think about tonight's episode, because
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  Speaker 5: you know, I named it the way that I did
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  Speaker 5: because this this is his team, and then nothing even
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  Speaker 5: screams it more than that. When I even heard Sean
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  Speaker 5: McDermott the other day said this is Josh Allen's team,
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  Speaker 5: And like, if McDermott is even putting that out there
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  Speaker 5: to the media, then you know it's got to be
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  Speaker 5: true for sure.
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  Speaker 1: My line on one seven, one seven's addicting, one sevens
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  Speaker 1: addiction generational. The last you know, seven years have been
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  Speaker 1: such a treat to be able to call him QB
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  Speaker 1: one and you know everything that comes with it, obviously
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  Speaker 1: a few tough shortcomings and can't get over the hump,
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  Speaker 1: and deservingly probably could in.
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  Speaker 2: Different eras in different times like.
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  Speaker 1: The poor Me Bills drought type of mindset there, like
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  Speaker 1: we finally get a quarterback and just in time for
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs to have Pat Mahomes and their dynasty to start,
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  Speaker 1: just when we get you know, our generational guy.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact of you know, which is better here? Right?
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  Speaker 1: What's better to be a leader in this league amongst men,
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  Speaker 1: amongst warriors? Is it kind of getting thrown in and
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  Speaker 1: having to be that guy and an organization that is
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  Speaker 1: completely you know, inflamed and into shit if you will,
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  Speaker 1: or is.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of a longer term, you know, growth process.
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  Speaker 2: And Josh played his rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, you've got to sit behind
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  Speaker 1: a good starter for a couple of years to learn
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  Speaker 1: the game and come in like Aaron Rodgers and Pat
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes even did, right, But I'm them saying the the
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  Speaker 1: reins weren't given to him his rookie year. There was
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  Speaker 1: other talent on the team, there was other leadership in
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  Speaker 1: the room. Excuse me to kind of hand that and
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  Speaker 1: show him how to lead, right, So I think you
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  Speaker 1: know what's better? You know, we weren't desperate, and you
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  Speaker 1: see this every year with all these teams drafted quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: in the first round and it's a complete dumpster fire.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like you got to be the guy.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty year old kid.
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  Speaker 1: That you know has to go lead you know, a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of warriors, right, and sometimes doesn't you see the
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  Speaker 1: confidence just dissipate quick and they never pan out, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it could be detrimental to the career and
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  Speaker 1: what could have been.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a good build up of Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: on one seven to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know if we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: digs later, right if if that was what was needed
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  Speaker 1: for him to be, you know, this leader.
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  Speaker 2: But I like that.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a slow build up and he's learned
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  Speaker 1: and he's learned what not to do. He's learned what
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  Speaker 1: to do, and it seems like he's making all the
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  Speaker 1: decisions of what to do a lot more than what
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  Speaker 1: not to do. You know, there there's not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of complaints in the actual that department. And I talked
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  Speaker 1: about it's my biggest thing, you know, Rob like this
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  Speaker 1: golden retriever energy bullshit. All Buffalo media wants to be
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  Speaker 1: all about this and loves it.
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  Speaker 2: No Josh, He's like a golden tree.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, nah, we need we need a meaner dog
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  Speaker 1: and start coming out. Yeah, and you know, be lead
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  Speaker 1: from the front with with conviction, with that. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: the best player. But you can all be with me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, follow these steps. So I think he has
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  Speaker 1: built up to the right way to where.
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  Speaker 4: He needs to be right now.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm comfortable sitting here, you know, year
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  Speaker 1: seven going into Okay, now, it's all yours. I think
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  Speaker 1: you've studied for the test enough. I'm confident we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get a good score here.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting to say that, because justice there was one
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  Speaker 5: thing that I wanted to touch on quickly before, because
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk about the locker room and really
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  Speaker 5: dig into that. But you know, there was one thing
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  Speaker 5: that caught my eye. I'd mentioned it a couple of
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  Speaker 5: episodes ago, and DT's already familiar, but you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think it was Tim Graham came out to the report
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  Speaker 5: that you know, Terry Pagoula had made some comments about
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  Speaker 5: you know, kind of almost like an edict to to
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  Speaker 5: Sean McDermott and to Brandon, being that he wanted Josh
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  Speaker 5: to start to separate himself from his peers a little
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  Speaker 5: bit and then more have like more of an executive role.
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  Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean that he's you know, he's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna play.
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  Speaker 5: Cards, because you hear about training camp and those guys
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  Speaker 5: play cards and they go out and they have offensive
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  Speaker 5: dinners and different things like that. But it was more
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  Speaker 5: along the lines of just there has to be some
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  Speaker 5: type of a line of delineation, There has to be
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  Speaker 5: some type of separation between himself and his peers. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm wondering what you thought about that, or even if
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  Speaker 5: you heard about that from Tim grim because I know
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  Speaker 5: Tim had to actually go on Twitter and make some
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  Speaker 5: comments and kind of clear some things up because people
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  Speaker 5: had said, well that, you know, did Pagoula make this
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  Speaker 5: edict and did he say that Josh doesn't need to
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  Speaker 5: be a part of the team or what in the
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  Speaker 5: case may be. And it really wasn't that, But he
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  Speaker 5: was trying to come up with a way to at
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  Speaker 5: least convey to Josh that he is separate, that he
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  Speaker 5: is not the same as the other fifty two guys.
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  Speaker 5: And I wanted to know if you had picked up
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  Speaker 5: on that or heard about that. It was a couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks back. But we had talked about it here
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  Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was interesting, was something that caught my eye.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hear about that. I don't think it's interesting,
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  Speaker 4: But I do also believe it's a good problem to have. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: your quarterback is one of the fellas. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: fellas believe in your quarterback so much. Did you know
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  Speaker 4: they feel like he's one of them? Man, Okay, who
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  Speaker 4: make the best generals? The guy who the soldiers know
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  Speaker 4: all right? He can get his hands dirty. He not
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  Speaker 4: sitting up in some throne room sending us off to die.
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  Speaker 4: He's on the front lines with us, battling it out.
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  Speaker 4: And who else would do who else would give you
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  Speaker 4: that type of security other than Josh Allen, who's out
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  Speaker 4: there jumping over people, running over linebackers, right, stiff Harman
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  Speaker 4: all pro all Galaxy defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like it's a good problem to have.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I can understand the idea of wanting him to not
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  Speaker 4: be so goofy and silly, but also on the same tip,
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  Speaker 4: like if that is who he like, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he's that way on game day, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen him in the divisional game. He's on the
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  Speaker 4: sideline screaming at people like like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Like he could give you that energy when he needed.
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  Speaker 4: And also I've also heard that Josh Allen is one
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  Speaker 4: of the craziest talkers in the NFL. So he's all
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  Speaker 4: he does feel like he's the best player in the world,
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  Speaker 4: and I promise you he'd be telling people that on
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  Speaker 4: the field. You know, his teammates here that. So I
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  Speaker 4: do think that he brings that type of energy as well.
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  Speaker 4: But then to also be a you know, a guy
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  Speaker 4: who's approachable and who's you know, so I think that
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  Speaker 4: you get the best of both worlds in that case.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, I don't think we're ever
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: going to see the extreme of you know, the Kobe Bryant,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: the Michael.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Jordan and Tiger Woods like that type of psychopath.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, but I think he definitely can get
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: more to in that middle realm of you know, of
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: getting a little more aggressive and a little more Tom
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady Peyton Manning esque right when it
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that type of stuff like, I
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't think he's full on, you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: doing doing Navy seal training Tiger.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Woods is you know, for fun because he likes pain
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and ship like that. He definitely room to get to
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the middle.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I mean you were talking about Dan Dawkins teammates Dan
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Dawkins telling stories of Saw season.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, he said, don't talk to my quarterback.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I look at my quarterback like MJ, and you don't talk.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: You heard talking to him like you don't know that
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: he's Jordan.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: You're talking to m J. Yeah, So that like that's
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: some ship right there. That one's like like, and we
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: talked about is the team receding it? Hell yeah, if
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the team is putting you on the federal you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Is you know the goal whatever week right right right
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: for a different time. But to put him at that
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: level and respect him at that level, it means they're
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: listening to what he's saying.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So I guess we'll get it in the night. What's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: he saying?
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: I like that for sure, And yes I loved it
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: when I heard Deon talk about it, like he said,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: you don't talk to my quarterback? Like, you don't know
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: that he's Jordan, And like, I mean, I just I
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: just love everything about Dion Dawkins.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I love what he represents.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: And I know that Justice echoes that as well, because
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: he's just a cool cat and he's a real cat.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: And I mean, you used to go to Justice because
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: I love Dion's energy just the his energy is what
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I like, you know what I mean. That's just that's
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: just the way I relate to it, that's all.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: It's funny. Before DT even brought up Jordan, something he
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: said reminded me of something I thought about earlier. Literally today,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, Josh Allen is literally Lebron James, right, Okay,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Lebron James at the NFL, right he you know, people
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: criticize them like not that it's bad to be like
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: that Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan' psychopath, right right, But Lebron
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: never was that, you know what I mean, And people
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: always criticize them for he's a connector and right right, right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: right right, He's a communicator, he's a you know what
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, and he still ended up becoming a great leader.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: And I was like, that reminds me so much of
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen. And not only that, but Lebron does everything
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: on the court right right, you know, assist points, rebound, steals,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: blocks like he does it all and his teammates have
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a habit of staring at greatness and kind of just
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: stopping their feet on the floor and just watching him go.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like the Bills have a habit of doing
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: that sometimes too. They're just like, oh my god, he
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: just made that play and you get sold you like
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: you're on a field, buddy, Like come on, you know
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying to help him out, you know. And
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: it's like, I just see a lot of parallels between
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Michael arm Sorry, Josh Allen and Lebron James.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: So it's funny he said that, and I'm sorry, I
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: just wanted.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: To bring no. I don't apologize.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: That's cool because I just read an article the other
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: day about Steve McNair on ESPN and about how his
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: teammates did exactly what you're talking about.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: But he would catch themselves.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Literally at Alcorn State in Mississippi, just watching him play
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: that they wouldn't they wouldn't even be paying attention to
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: what they're supposed to be doing because the greatness was
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: just on full display.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: So I like that comparison.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, he is a lot like Lebron because Lebron is
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: one of the guys that could lead the league in
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: scoring or he could leave the league in assists on
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: any given season if he felt like it. It's just
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: just what he feels like doing at that time. And
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I think that Josh is capable as well. So as
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: we transition again, over three hundred people watching us on
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• 19:21
  Speaker 5: this is one of my favorite topics because of the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: fact that I have to be careful now justice because
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I've been put on an edict a couple weeks ago
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: by by DT, my partner, and I don't want to
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: fight him all the time because he says that this
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: is getting ready to be time to stop talking about fourteen.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to do it in a roundabout way
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: so that way DT and I can say friends and
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: then he's not gonna get mad at me. One of
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: the things that I've noticed throughout this offseason, and this
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: has been consistent since the beginning. I'm talking about since
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: spring ball. They want to talk about, Oh the locker
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: room is just so much more free, and everybody's looser,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: and everybody's chilling, there's a brotherhood, all this different type
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: of stuff. To me, it bothers me, but it's okay,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: and I let it go a lot of this this
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: summer as well, because I hear it on wg are
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: all of the time, Oh Josh is playing freer, or
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: oh Josh's looser. It's almost a backhanded way of saying
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Stephon Diggs not here anymore. Everybody's butttholes ain't tight no more.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Everybody gets a chance to just kind of loosen up.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: That's cool, it just better worked. Did Stefon Diggs? Did
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: fourteen suck the air out of that locker room? Because
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: what I'm hearing lately is that, oh, everything is just
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: so much more free. And Sean McDermott evenays it's this
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: presh converse or I just love the collaboration and I
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: love the wide receiver room and the unselfishness and all
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: these other code words. And again, I have to stay
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: on brand for Nickel City Crew because my listeners know
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: who I am, and they know the type of person
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that I'm in respect to defending steff I dig So again,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I won't mention fourteen anymore, But did.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: He kind of suck the energy out of the locker room?
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Because all I hear all off season since the spring
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: is that everything is just so much more free.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Everybody's just so much more loose.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I mean, well I think something had to give, right.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just one four. I mean we did a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: whole revamp of a lot of different things. You know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of players, of a lot of schemes, of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of personnel.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: There.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: It's a it's kind of a new team, if you will.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: The core is the core is the core, and it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a new team everywhere around. So it had to come
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to a head of every year, you know, not making
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it to the big one, and you know it, was
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it a failure?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Was it a failure?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Like you you can't do that for twelve years in
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a row, Like eventually you gotta you gotta reset, set
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the tone, reset the vibe, reset the structure, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to and if it if it is you know, free
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: flowing or whatever it is this offseason now to get
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: them to do that as opposed to the past couple
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of years where it's been, okay, nothing matters until we
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: get back and we got to win that big game,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: which in the end that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Is all that matters.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: But I do like kind of the change of vibe
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and atmosphere because it's just they're changing it up what
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: we've been doing. What we talked about with one four
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all this time was we can't you know what his
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: biggest thing was, can't just run it back, right, can't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: just run it back? And so they're they're in their
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: way doing their own way of you know, getting better,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but not just running it back. And doing everything that
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: they've been, you know, doing, and insanity that you defind
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is doing something over and over again expecting different results.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So I like the change up. I like the mood swing.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you obviously from experience, it doesn't matter
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: how loosey goosey it is. You go in here and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: get bopped on week one against an Arizona team, that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ship tightens right back up the meeting. The thing that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: lucy goosey shit goes directly out the window a meeting.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm not worried that it's going to like dig
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: into the you know, like, oh we're two or two relaxed,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: because they know if it happens once it were right
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: back into in the serious mode.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So I like the way we're changing things up because
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: we're not doing the same thing as we've been doing.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But they also I think the team knows it will
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: get more serious than you want it to get if
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you're fuck around, right, So this is.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: We'll write it for now. I'll say that we'll write
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it for not.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Justice General Radford, our guests tonight, our resident Josh Allen expert.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Please you have the floor, because that's why I've brought
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: you on the show tonight talk about Josh, because I.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Mean, listen, I hear it, and you know I'm not lying.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I'm am I making it up. If I'm making it up,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: then call me a liar. Justice.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: But I've heard, I mean, I hear it a bunch
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: of different ways that everything is just looser and everything
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: is just a little bit more freer in that locker room.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And I think it's code for something else, and that's fine.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: It just better work.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like this is a double sided,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: you know, bleed, just like anything, right, Josh Allen being
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: one of the fellas is it sounds amazing until the
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Fellas you know, maybe don't have the respect they should
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: for Josh. I'm not saying it, they don't, you know
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But you run the risk of that happening, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: just like having that you know, infectious energy and hyping,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you know, leadership, you know, you get the other end
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: of that, which is like, you know, if if you
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: do something wrong, is Mom about to beat this done?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Right now? I mean you get that anxiety, right like
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Grew up with that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: You're right, yeah, we all you know what I'm saying,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: so like you know, have not having you know that around, right,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So now you kind of in the college dorm room
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: on your own. Ain't nobody there to yell at you
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: if you do something wrong, you know what I mean?
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And if you are a well if you're a well
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: raised child and or a well coached team, then that
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: won't be a problem. Not having a disciplinary you know
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: person to that you know, aggressive nature won't be a
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: problem that, you know what I mean. You you then
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that almost became abuse.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: However, if if you are potentially problematic person and you
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: needed that tough love in order to get you going,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: in order to make you, you know, do better, then
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you needed that, you know what I'm saying, You k
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: needed that, and if you lose that, now you're gonna
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: fall off the wagon, right, You're right, So we'll see.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: You know which team the Bills are they?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: They?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, on from outside looking in, it seems to
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: be they are a well coached team. They were starting
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to do well before Days even got there. So you
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: have to imagine or at least hope that a lot
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: of that was coaching, which no, no, no, no, I'm not
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not downing that at all. I'm just simply talking
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: about they were one thing one year and then the
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: coaching helped them become better than next year. So I
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: was just speaking broken already happening. Gigs obviously made the sky, you.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Know what I mean.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I understand. I don't want d take it about me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I won't torupt to my bad So, uh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: You know, we'll see what type of team the Bills are.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: If they're a well coached team that that really didn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: need all that extra, you know what I'm saying. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: and now people's you know, aren't clenching, or we'll see
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: if they needed that and they lost they edge and
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: they smoking, you know what I'm saying, We'll see, all.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Right, Well I stand I mean, I'll stand down on that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I just you know, I heard it. It wasn't narrative.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I know, I'm not making it up. And DT heard
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: it as well, and you can hear it in different
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: press conferences from Sara mcdermoin on down that the you
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: know in the locker room this, and the locker room
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: mad and and unselfishness and different things like that. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: hear a lot of different code words, and that's fine.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I would like it to work, and that's fine.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Now. One of the ways it is going to work
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: is for our next.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Topic, and as we transition is who who in the
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: ham sand, which is my father would say, rest of
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: pees is Josh Allen throw it to just as general
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I I kind of went off last week with this
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: whole Everybody Eats and it was getting on my nerves
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and it was a situation where I really just I'm
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: not It was a couple episodes ago and it just
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I wasn't really with it. We had on, we had
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: on Jay Spence the King, and we tried to chop
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: it up. We tried to talk about it, and I'm
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: still not really.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Comfortable with it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: But Everybody Eats is getting ready to get the ultimate
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: test because what this really says, regardless if it's about
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: fourteen regardles, if it's about the cap or a combination
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: of the both, or or you know, the locker room,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: it's just a combination of everything. For whatever reason, this
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: is what they chose. This is what everybody wanted to
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: go after. In respects to Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: in this approach, it better worked because now you're looking
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: at is is Josh Allen ready to be the elevator man.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Is he ready to lift you know, the tide that
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: lifts all boats? Is he ready to be that type
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: of guy? In your opinion? I know that you love him.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I know that you're biased towards him, and that's fine,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: and we love the Josh Allen love here at Nicol
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: City Crew. But I wanted to get your thoughts on
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: it because everybody eats is about to get the ultimate test,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: because you know, you've got a bunch of c's and
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: B minuses and different things like that and you and
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: it really is on your quarterback to to raise to
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: raise the level. Tom Brady didn't always have Randy Moss,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: and he won super Bowls And actually, ironically, he didn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: win a super Bowl when he had Moss. I mean,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: so that's ironic within itself. But I wanted to get
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: your thoughts on it. You love seventeen, and I'm not
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: hating on you for that. I love seventeen, but you
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: love him on a different level. Is Josh Allen ready
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: to show everybody that he is the elevator man? Like
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: he like you have to raise up the level of
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: play if you have subpar weapons you do, I'm sorry,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: and and or or average weapons.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say subparer and then get everybody
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Bills not being mad at me. Average at best.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: It's outside of kincaid average wide receiver room, I think,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: and ESPN just ranked all the position groups their wide.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Receiver rooms third from from the bottom.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: It was like, only better than New England and one
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: other team.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: So, first of all, Josh Allen is the moon. Okay,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: he raises all tides. Okay, So the ocean moves when
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen moves. Okay. So here's the thing. Josh Allen
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: had the best wide receiver in Bill's history bar none.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Andre yeh andre Eric. That means Andre Eric And.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I even did that, but is the best
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: receiver in Bill's history. And that's just the truth.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: That's an opinion. Yeah, I mean.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Woe and even having him a lot of times, Josh
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Allen had to had to I had to improvise and
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: and basically do it himself. I mean, of course not
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: doing himself because it's a team game.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I know he.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Of the scheme so often it's like second nature to
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: him at this point. So I mean you know, everybody
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: eat sounds bad, but the Chiefs just won a Super
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Bowl and everybody eats, you know what I mean.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: So like, you know, so youffet.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: So you get a player who is already used to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: playing above the scheme, already used to happen to do
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: extra anyway, that's just his comfort zone at this point.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: You know, now you have instead of one really good
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: receiver and then a bunch of you get a couple
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: good receivers and then you know, some decent ones or whatever,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: and you know, you get two really good tight ends,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: you get a really good running back, you have a
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: damn good offensive line that's been kind of proving themselves
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: a little bit so well, not in the preseason, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: we hold the preseason against him.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, line around, that's his button issue, what happens.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But you know, Josh Allens used to playing above above
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the scheme, so I have to believe that this won't
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: be too much different for him.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no I mean, put all the roses away
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that everybody eats whatever. Josh Allen's gonna have to play
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the season of his life for the Bills to be
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: competitive this year. There's no ifing, buts about it. But
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: as Justice was saying, he has played the season of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: his life every year up until now. You know, it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: not like he's playing mediocre ass seasons. His his seasons
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: are statistically other than you know year one, well not
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: year one, year two when they made the playoffs and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you know, go ten and six and lose to Houston
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: after that, Statistically we're almost identical in statistics.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: So he has played up up to the scheme.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Obviously, did have Stefan Diggs all those years, did m
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Game Davis all those years. So he's gonna have to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: definitely up his game. And like everybody eats all that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't just mean it's gonna work. Josh Allen has to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: make it work and get everybody to eat. So there's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: there's so much more on his plate as we talk
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: about in the pressure of him.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: But they're giving it to him knowing and thinking he's ready,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and he's taking it saying he's ready.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think he would say, nah, I'm
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: actually I don't think I'm ready to be a top
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: tier you.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Know, a leader in this in this league.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's ready for it, but he's gonna have to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: play literally the top the best season of his career
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: this year for the Bills to have a chance, straight.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Up, straight up.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Interesting. Interesting, I mean, what happens. Okay, so where's that crowd?
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Then maybe you guys are not in that crowd. What
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: happens to the crowd that always says, well, you have
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: to take more off of Josh Allen's play.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm in. I'm in.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I'm searching for that feeling again. You know what feeling
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I'm searching for. I'm searching for an offensive coordinator who
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: was completely competent getting the best out of seventeen. I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: searching for fourteen, who's flanked out by number one Emmanuel Sanders,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, there's another option gave Davis,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: and then there's another option. I'm looking for Dawson KNOXU,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: who was coming into his own at that time. I'm
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: looking to get back to that feeling of thirteen seconds
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: because that was the team, in my opinion, that had
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: the best opportunity to win the Super Bowl.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I argue with.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: People on Twitter, it seems like every other day that
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: that might have been our best opportunity to win the
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl. And then when they want to go back
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: at me about McDermott, this and that, and then we
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: can go back and forth all day. I'm searching for
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: that feeling again, that's what I want to get back to,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: and to me, I always want to surround it with
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the most talent as possible. Now again, I can give
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: credit to the fact that maybe and give creedens to
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: the fact that maybe it was a little bit of
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: salary cap, a little bit of Digs was upset, a
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: little bit of we need to reset.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Brandon Bean spoke about it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: We talked about a DT how Brandon Bean even said
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: it was important to get guys that were removed from
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: thirteen seconds because he didn't want to have that type
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: of stuff lingering. We did an entire episode on that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: So I understand all of those things and they have
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: their merit.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: But to me, a question, real quick, Rob, go ahead,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: why don't you feel like last year was a prime year?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: First on the Super Bowl last year? Yeah, I felt
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that way until until the shit we were six and
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: six and me and d T were doing no no no, no, no, no,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: no no, But we were the outest team in the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: NFL going into the playoffs.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: I felt I listen, because of the opponent.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Because of the opponent, I was not I was not
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: outwardly optimistic about the Divisional round game.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Now I was there with d T. We went to breakfast.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: We had to lose to that opponent. Excuse me, why
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: don't we lose to that opponent.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna say injuries, right, everybody's gonna say injury.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Why so why did we lose.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: A specific play a large part?
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Please don't tell me about that drop. That drop didn't
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: even he wasn't even scoring that play. We still have
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: to finish that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: We still have you clear fifty of the field. Please
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: for extra minutes on the clock.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Please don't start. Are you serious? You're one of those
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: people Twitter?
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: So this was the Stefan Diggs drop cost us that game,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: not the injury.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: It's no, no, no, no, I'm not We gave.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: That day.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: He was certainly a large part of the drop, though
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: it changed the game.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Boring a touchdown on that play, he was field goal.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: And we don't have any time on the clock because
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: we had to drive the rest of the way down
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: the field because he dropped that pass. Wow, that's what happened.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I know, we dropped the ball and we still have
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: to finish that drive.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, but there's you know, theres.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Not And like I said, I'm not a monolithic but
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that's a large part of what happened. You can't say
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: that our window was closed and then directly be a
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: part of the reason we lose.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: That's a hard one for me to swallow. I'm sorry.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: That was a big drop. I understand it was a
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: big drop, but I didn't say that it helped. It
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: didn't help. I understand that it didn't help. It was
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: a big drop, but I can't put that on him.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Eight explosives, eight plates. We couldn't stop Pat all day,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: even though they were in that stupid ass offense where
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: they're trying to control the clock and limited possessions. Every
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: time he got on the field, he was he was
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: burning us. Eight explosive plays in the game he's not
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: supposed to happen. You play football justice, that's a lot
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: eight plays of twenty yards or more. I don't know, man.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I know that Bill's.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Mafia loved to hate on fourteen after it was over,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: and all we want to do is show gifts of
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: that drought.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think that that drop lost the game. We
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: start about that drive.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: If you're if you're out here saying like Anthony Edwards,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: let's say Anthony Edwards missed the game winning you know shot,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: because he talks so much, you're gonna be like, yo,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: you're talking only why you the one out here messing up?
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, he's not a cyboard but okay, this is not
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: going to be.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: You. But see what we were talking about when we
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: talk about if Mama go with me or not? Right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: So everybody else when they mess up, they butt clitched
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: because they're like, oh god, reprimanded right now.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, okay, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: just don't. I just don't.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't put that that drop on the game. But
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: but yes, it was. It was a monumental drop. It
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: was a big It was a big drop.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: D T. You can try to save this because if.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: You want, But I mean, I mean, I don't want
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: to just fight Justice all night about that drop.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I understand, I understand this premise.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: He was not going to score on that play, is
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: my point. So he had he was gonna fall and
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: we had to finish the drive. So what did Josh
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: is a pick? Next play.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Then what so I mean and it wasn't targeted to
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: steff On Diggs, Then what I mean.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: The defense, the defense not stopping ship, He wasn't stopping anything.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: That there's an extra four minutes on the clock for
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: us to get the ball back. That's what I'm saying.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a huge party game, you know what
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. You still have to get the ball back
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: to Mahomes though, right, but now you have time on
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: the clock.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: M hmm.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But I mean, if I I'm going on my Cardinals
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: in here, we're talking about Stefan Diggs, But.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm not.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, the drop can help, and it sucks,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and it sucks that it's so up in front and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: posterized being critical one four. It's it's not that catch.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: It's the last half of the season of productivity.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm critical of him last year.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Not not blame Brady. I blame Brady.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, but if I'm picking, if I'm picking.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: One of those two, yeah, production over that catch.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all know how to get out of again.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: I mean the same way you critical of Josh Rob.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: We allowed to be critical stuff, big drop I just
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: say he's the best player in Bill's history. Come on, bro,
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: you can't be bad SA if you dropped the past.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: It was a huge drop.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Big drop.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Big drop changed the complexion of the game. Absolutely at
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: that point in time. There's no guarantee to be scoring
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: on that play. And and and we gave up eight
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: explosive plays that day. They had our number that day
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: because the because of the injury. So I don't think you're.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Going I think justice.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Are you trying to say basically that that drop not
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that it costs us the game? But what's the accountability?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: What's the accountability of that drop?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Is it just him, you know, going over the sideline, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I dropped it, or if somebody else dropped he.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Did this, But it doesn't mean that Josh miss he
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: did this meaning that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was this close. So here's here's the
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: accountability portion of the drop. Right, This is the end
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: of the season. This is the biggest game of your
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: season so far, right, right, you want to make it
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: to the next game, which will then become the biggest game,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: but the biggest game of your season so far.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: This is the dynasty, Like we just mentioned, this is
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: the team. This is the team. You can't do that agains, right,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: because they're gonna make you pay for every mistake. Okay,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: so this is the fourth quarter of the game, okay,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: with six seven something like that, right, Okay, So if
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: you can take up fifty to sixty percent of the
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: field on one play, that dramatically changes your probability of winning,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: because not only do you now put yourself in a
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: better position to score quick. If they score, you have
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: the chance to score last unless they right down the field,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And now you wasted up
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: that five six minutes and now you're bum ass.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, I understand.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, is a bum bumming it out and bums
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: vivity Bumville and and now.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: But then everybody he goes, he wants to tell me
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: that even if Vast kicked it, that they were going
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: to lose the game anyway, because Mahomes is getting ready
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: to get.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: The Bills played the Chiefs earlier in that season. Patrick
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Mahomes had a chance to win the last drive. Guess
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: what he didn't do.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: He didn't win because of it all sides. So I
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: don't I don't puff up my chest over there. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: don't I don't. I know if he didn't win, but
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I don't chance.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Is the score after that all sides?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm in a situation where I don't. I don't.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm wondering who he's getting ready to throw to.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: And I'm just wondering if everybody understands that he has
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: to raise the level of play for others around him.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: And as we can begin to wrap up tonight on
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: my last topic is that, you know, just because of
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: the fact that you know what, I guess, it's fair
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: to ask, then, since you've already segued into it for
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: me Justice, what are the expectations that you have for
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: this team this year? Because you know, I told you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: I confessed to Nicol City Crew. I told DT that
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I expect the ten and seven year I expect. Maybe
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: that's good enough to win the division. Maybe it's not
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: just get into the playoffs wild Cardiff need be and
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: then go from there. My expectations are not on Super
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Bowl this year because of the fact that we lost
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: all the pieces that we did. Now again it's chiefly fourteen,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: but you know there's other pieces. Well, I understand that
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: the safeties were a little bit longer in the two
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: so a lot of people like to say, well, really,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: what were you losing?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: And I understand that sentiment. Even before the Milano injury.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: You know, people want to say, well, Morris this and
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: that he's probably one of the only ones that you're losing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: But you know, the team looks roughly the same. I
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: even heard that this morning on WGR, So I can
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: go with that sentiment outside of the wide receiver room,
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: but the wide receiver room spooks me. So because of that,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: what are your expectations for this team for the twenty
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: twenty four Buffalo Bills? Because I love how you talked
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: about how Josh I don't have to put the cape on,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: but I hear an awful lot of people off not you,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: but an awful lot of people in Bill's bofi that say, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: we need to take less, we need to take more
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: off of Josh Allen's play.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: He does too much. He puts the cape on too much.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: And I don't know how you do that with the
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: wide receiver room that we have Dalton decide, unless Dalton
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: is the next coming of Antonio, you know, you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Anthony Gonzalez or whatever, his name is, like, I don't
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Tony Gonzalez.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: how we do it. I don't know, not with this
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: wide receiver room that with a bunch of stats.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: If you, if you were, I wouldn't say that the
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: wide receiver room would be the piece that would take
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: so much off of Josh's play because no matter who's
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver on the field, he has to hit
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the ball there, right, he has to see them be
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: open and he has to make that play no matter
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: who it is. And I don't care if this prime
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: aj Brown right.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: There that you just said he's been the best quarterback
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: in the league last five Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: So, but I feel like the run game is what
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: takes pressure off Josh. Right, you got James Cooko was
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: the top five running back in the league last year.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: You got an offensive line who has another year. Obviously,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: you you lose Mitch Morris, which is huge. I don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: want to understate that, but they have basically for the
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: most part, right, So, I feel like that is what
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: takes pressure off Josh because if he has a reliable
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: run game that can give him four or five yards
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: to carry. Then that opens up the door for so
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: much else. And I do think Kali can actually give
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you like wide receiver number one numbers. I'm not gonna lie.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I see him having one hundred plus catches. Maybe golf
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: for a band.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I really do, really I do.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I like Shakier, I really do.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: On the outside from.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen specifically, even going back to the end of
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: last year, he was putting on.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: The slot on the outside or it doesn't matter they.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup did it from wherever. You know what I'm saying,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, So poking the coua do
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: it from wherever. So I feel like the X factor
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: in this equation. And plus, like I said, Dalton Kink
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: and don't sleep on Dawson Dwton Dawson Knox either, I
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: feel like the X factor is Kean Coleman because he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: the only one who we don't know what we're gonna
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: get anything from. Right. He could be the next Justin Jefferson,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: He could be the next Martez Marquez, Banlely Skip, whatever
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the hell his name is, You know what I mean.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: So we don't really know, right, And I feel like
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: that's where you kind of get your X factor. Curtis
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Samuel is gonna come in and be a positive no
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: matter what, because he can do so many different things
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: from so many different places on the field. He spreads
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: out the field dramatically.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I just you know, to your offense, not the skip
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: a beat.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: This is this, It depends. It depends on Joe Brady.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: It really does depends on Brady. If he's creative enough
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: to make it happen, it could happen. Sean McVay will
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: go crazy with this offense, Klem Shannon will go insane
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: with there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: This room is a little on I think you know
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: it is what it is.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: You gotta bite, you gotta bite what you gotta bite.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: But eleven and six get you the two seed last year,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not I'm not hoping to just
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: get in. But eleven and six with a two seed
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and a stack conference, you know, even if things go
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a little more south than that, you still got a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: chance to get in. And and Josh Allen playoff time
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: is you know, it is definitely somebody I want on
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: my team.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Right So this this I'm not.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I don't love the receiving room, like you said, you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get from anybody, even Shaki.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel is the only one I don't
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna get.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But we talked about, you know, we know what we need,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: right and we talked about this coming up, like we
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get, but we definitely know
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: what we need.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So if everyone can rise up a little bit as
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: we as I.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Did and kind of broke down that incremental increase episode
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: where we went through everybody on the team, and I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: thought it was very conservative wile numbers to get.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: To you know, it kind of fills the voids to get.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen to forty two hundred yards thirty seven touchdowns,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you know, that year on year pace where he's a
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: top quarterback in the league and we're we're in the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: one seed conversation, So we don't know what we're gonna get,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: but we know what we need.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: So as I talked, you know, in previous weeks of
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: like this, if.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, and I don't want this to happen,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: but worst case scenario, all this goes to shit because
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: we don't have the horses to run.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: We know what we need.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: We know we need horses.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: You know, if this works and it's and then that's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: even opens it to a bigger opening, like Okay, now
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: we literally can do it with anybody. So I think,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: worst case scenario, we know what the answer is. You know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be black or white, straight up.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: This is what we need, this is what we don't need,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and then we'll know moving forward and we're gonna be
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: successful with it, and it's gonna take a lot of
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: pressure off. And that might be like being saying, damn,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: we never have to pay a receiver again, or it's
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be yeah, screw this, we gotta we gotta go
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: get somebody's right now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: We gotta go put forty mil on on a wide
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: out right now.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: So John's I mean, that's not happened elevate.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: No, I just what I'm saying. Next year, next year,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it is next year, we'll have our answer.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: We don't know what what we're gonna get, but we
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: know what we need and if we don't get that,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: we just got to go out and get what we need.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: So I I like the clarity of it all, but
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sacrifice the season and not get there.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, eleven and six is the
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: two seed last year.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: You know, uh.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Sneak in.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, Justice.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Justice seems like he knows, he seems to know. I mean,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: I like Curtis Samuel. I thought that he was a
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: piece that never played with a good quarterback. We talked
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: about him on our Offensive Buffet episode covering the offense.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: You know Shakiir. I liked him. Obviously they chose to
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: throw to him instead of fourteen. That was Joe Brady.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what I blame it on.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I don't blame it on any type of deterioration with
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: fourteen at the second backhand the back end of last year.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: So maybe you're right on that. You're right about Kean Coleman.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: He's definitely an expector. We don't know what we're gonna
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: get from him. I just nothing else excites me about it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: You know about the room MBS, no Claypool goes to IR.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: I wasn't even counting on him making the team. So
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: you seem to be a little bit more optimistic about
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: the actual wide receiver room itself.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: And that's fine. I run into a lot of bills
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Mafia members that are that way.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I just don't I see a bunch of c's and
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: maybe some B minuses and I and Okay, I mean
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: it could work. And maybe, like you said, Josh Allen
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: is the moon, so he's going to rise all tides
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: and the ocean doesn't even operate without him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: And maybe you're absolutely right. I don't know.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: I just thought that it was curious and I wanted
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: to get into it tonight about the expectations for the year.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: So as we wrap up tonight, you know, just justice
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: you are, you are expecting everything to just click just fine.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: In respects to the offenses, There's just no there's nothing
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: other than that seventeen is he's got our back.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: He's got it. And if he has to put on
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: the Superman k he could do that too. He I mean,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: So before before I go, I just want to I
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: just want to leave y'all with something. Okay, this is
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: a draft analysis. Okay, for for Justin Jefferson, a quarterback's
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: best friend with contested catch focus and extreme ball skills
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: to boost completion percentages. Okay, he failed to stand out
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: as an outside target. Okay, stock sore in the slot
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: with a monster season. He is decent speed and separation talent,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: but needs to improve as a route runner.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: Okay Coleman, Okay, I'm just saying. I mean, yeah, they
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: said he can't create separation. He's only caught two balls
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: of the preseason. It's preseason. Who cares I hear that?
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they didn't. They didn't bring him in
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to be a beat. They brought him in to be
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I think that's a lot to put on his plate.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm not putting.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: I'm just he said a lot of the same things
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: about Justin Jefferson before. He's drafted to be Justin Jefferson
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: and Stephan Diggs. I'm not I'm not expecting him to
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: do that this year. But they drafted him to be that, Like,
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: straight up, They're not drafted him to be a role player.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: They're drafting him to be Justin Jefferson or stuff on Dick.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Well, Then why did everybody in the pre draft talk
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: about separation as an issue? Justice, Because that's what that's
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: all I heard about Keon Coleman was that he can't separate.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: That's that was the argument that night he was drafted.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: On Twitter and you were part of it.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: That's what. I don't think they expected him to be
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: a Justin Jefferson or Stephan Dicks because they traded back
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: to the second round, didn't take that extra year. So
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I think that that was kind of proof that they
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: wanted to kind of be wanted him to be a
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: part of the conglomerate team of conglomerate.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, that's just just my opinion. That's interesting.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, one thing that I have
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: noticed about Josh Allen throughout the years is that, you
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: know the I guess the the number one thing that
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: I hit with when I go to the barbershop. It's
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: funny because I'm going on this Saturday and get the
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Kings their their haircuts before school starts next week. The
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: number one thing I hear from the owner, and everybody
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: knows we'm the Buffalo Bill's guy. They know I got
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: the podcast. Number one thing I hear when I walk
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: in the door. And if it's I mean, if it's
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: after a loss or if it's after a win, your quarterback,
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: he'd be doing it.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: You'd be doing everything. You gotta he do too much.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: You gotta do too much.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: Now, I heard that after the Jets game Week one,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: and then I heard it, you know, on positive games
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: when we lit up Miami a couple weeks later, and
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what ya gotta say? What chall gotta say
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: about my quarterback?
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Nah this week?
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: So I do know that he has the ability to
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: put on the cape. I just I guess that that's
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: just I'm revealing my true colors. I thought that our
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: offense was the most potent back at thirteen seconds. I
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: thought that those options that he had at his disposal
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: with Beasley, Sanders, Digs knocks like.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I just like I thought that we were untouchable, and even.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: Gave Dave and gave Davis the number four wide receiver
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: has a career night because they're paying so much attention
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: to fourteen, and you know, and Sean McDermott wastes away,
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: and I just I'm I want that back.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I want all the weapons for Josh Allen.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a chance there's a chance
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: that we threw this this prime year into the into
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: the volcano.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not okay with that ship like usage.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: You can tell me all day that he gonna be Superman,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: and I'm just not okay. With all these c options.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: When I can, I can win a Lombardy any year
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: he's on the team if I can, if I surround
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: them properly, I truly.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Believe that I'm with you there.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: The goals to get back to potent, to get back
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to unstoppable, to get back to lay up lines.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, And the vibe, the vibe right now is
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: not that.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: The take is we're not the preseason Super Bowl favorites
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: like we have in the past three years.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: You know, like the is not you know, I agree,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the goals to.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Get back potent, and it seemed like, you know, definitely
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: seemed like we we didn't get there yet, but we still.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Got Davis White, Matt Malone, uh, Jordan Poyer, Michael Hyge,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Mitch Morris, all miss significant time in the last couple
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: of years.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, absolutely.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: The only real.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Difference of our team, there's like significant difference that do
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: we haven't had to face recently. Is it's the only
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: real difference.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, hey, I with you. I mean, yes, the
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: wide receiver is huge. I think it's a wide receiver
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: room as an as an entirety.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: I think that, I mean, they turned it over you know,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: gave Davis gone, Stephan Dick's gone. You know what I mean,
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: they kind of they changed over the room, you know
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: what I mean, Davis, I don't I didn't.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Think that there was mccollins in the last Fantasy draft
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: style because like he might be getting burn you know, like.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: But Justice is not gonna give you tell us that
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: mc collins was is.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: An important hardy got burned last year.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: So okay, I think mac collins.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Flast season.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: So that okay, okay, hey listen, we can agree to disagree.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: And and one thing that Justice said that is correct
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: for sure is that we haven't played a game yet,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: so we have no idea. We are still searching for
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: answers on what Joe Brady and his offense is going
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: to look like. This is his first year running the offense.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Like we talked about before at nauseum, he was running
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey's offense or a version of it last year
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: in that second half when he picked up after that
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: Denver game. So we'll see all eyes on the offense
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: and all eyes will be on Josh Allen. He needs
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: to be a leader from the front. I think that
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: we can all agree on that. I think that we
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: can all agree on the fact that he is the
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: leader of the team and they do look to him.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I think that that is clear. They love him and
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: and the players respond to him, and.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: I think that it's I think that we all can
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: agree as we close tonight that this is a pivotal
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: year for his legacy and and and can we can
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: we agree on that?
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, Justice correct with.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: For Sean mcdermot's legacy.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Mm hm hm hmm. Yeah, I just don't. I think
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: I think love him too much that he's that I can't.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: I can't do anything to get rid of this, to
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: get rid of.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Him, Like here's a disaster. We don't play well, Josh
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Allen you know, doesn't play great and we missed the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: playoffs this year.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I'm still not less confident in Josh next year. So like, yes,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: it's pivotal, but like.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Legacy, because everybody wants to tell me that he can
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: rise and you, I mean, Justice just told us that
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: that he's the boom.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Kansas City won without even though they had a number
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: one defense.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Has a sheet terrible then yeah, but if he's like
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: if he's good to great.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Then take it to the bank. As they would say,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you could take that to the bank.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Then his legacy, I think he'll be better than great.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: But I'm speaking to his legacy, like if he has
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: a good year this year where he throws for thirty touchdowns,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, nothing will happen to
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: his legacy.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, still be one of the best word guys. Okay,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that everybody's watching to see that
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: now the Stefan Diggs has gone.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: How about that? Can we all agree on that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Everybody's looking to watch and see how he responds and
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: how the offense responds. So I think that that is
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: something that everybody's going to be keeping an eye on
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: across the league because he is. Now we've got a
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: superstar at QB one. So I really appreciate everybody joining
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: in tonight. Over five hundred people, almot sixty people watching
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: us on all the different platforms.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: We really appreciate you joining us tonight. Listen, Justice, our.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Resident JA seventeen, Truther, the torch Bear, we really appreciate
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: you joining us tonight, man as always an and sharing
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: some of your time. Man DT, I mean, we got
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: we got smacked up tonight because I mean, Justice says,
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, what are you guys talking about?
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Everything's fat?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: We'll see what.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: It may be, and it may be may.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I'd like to overall vibe.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I like it Justice tonight because I think the overall
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: bid needs to be. You know, it was optimism and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: then preseason kind of set in with people thought reality
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and there's definitely some negative negativity around,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: especially circles you know I'm in and group chats I'm in.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: There's negativity around and gonna be a long year. We're
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: just gonna have to grin and Barrett, So I like
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the optimism. You know, I'm the optimist guy. I like
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Justice coming in with the optimism. I don't know if
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I'm as far in as he is on some topics,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: but you know, I definitely like the optimism there. And
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I think as a as a whole, as a fan base,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: as Nickel City and a mafia, we need to move
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: like okay, like we still haven't kicked yet, So there's
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: we can be optimistic, but we have to be realistic.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: But let's let's start getting pumped up and be you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: have we do got one seven? So let's let's fucking go.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: We do have one seven. So yes, there are other factors,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: but let's buckle in. We got them. I'm not scared
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: of anybody in the league. Let's let's fucking go. We
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: got one seven.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: I'm excited. This is gonna be the first one of
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: the first years a long time. I'm not just waiting
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: for the playoffs, so I mean, I'm I'll enjoy it.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna enjoy the season a little bit differently.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: You're gonna be just waiting for the playoffs.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I'm I'm I made my pledge
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna do my best because I speak eight.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: I don't even know six, seven and one.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: You're gonna be all if we are at week eight
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: and we're seven to one, you need to come back
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: on this show just to be able to glow.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on the show.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: No yeah, I uh wow, that would be amazing. That mean,
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: we got a gauntlet, so that would be amazing with
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks that we play. So we'll see as always
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: out there, spread love not hate. These were my bills
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: thoughts set out Loud hit them with the gold bills, Justice,
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: hit them with the go bills. DT I appreciate you all.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Tonight Man, go Bills, Go Bill.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: I love it, I love it.