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The Truth Commission Moves In: Epstein’s New Mexico Network Faces Subpoenas (6/2/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. When Jeffrey Epstein was arrested back in twenty nineteen,
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  and most of that conversation was revolving around the properties
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  in Florida, New York, and the Virgin Islands. Meanwhile, what
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  was happening in New Mexico was largely forgotten about. Hardly
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  anybody was talking about what Epstein was up to in
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  New Mexico and why he chose New Mexico in the
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  first place. And that's always been a gigantic blind spot
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  in this story, just exactly what he was doing in
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  New Mexico. Well, now that they have this Truth Commission
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  and paneled in New Mexico, that's what they're trying to
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  get to the bottom of. And they have issued their
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  first fourteen subpoenas as their investigation truly kicks off in
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  ernest So in this episode we're going to talk about
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  those subpoenas and about where the Truth Commission currently stands.
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  Today's article was published by CNN and the headline New
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  Mexico True Commission begins investigation into Epstein's or ranch will
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  issue subpoenas. This article was authored by MJ. Lee and
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  Nikki Robertson. A New Mexico legislative panel announced on Monday
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  it's issuing more than a dozen subpoenas as part of
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  its probe into Jeffrey Epstein's or ranch, and called on
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  survivors of the late sex offender and other members of
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  the public to share what they might know about Epstein's
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  past crimes inside of the state. And I'm guessing that
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  there's going to be a lot of people that come forward,
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  and then from there it becomes a question of credibility,
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  and the vast majority of people that have come forward
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  so far have been credible. Now, there's always people that
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  are trying to benefit, trying to profit and trying to
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  make a quick buck, but the vast majority of people
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  that have come forward have been very credible. The New
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  Mexico Survivor's Truth Commission, led by a bipartisan group of
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  four lawmakers from New Mexico's House of Representatives, said it
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  will begin collecting evidence from range of federal and local agencies,
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  including the US Justice Department FBI, Epstein's estate, several major banks,
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  the state's Department of Justice, and the Santa Fe County
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  Sheriff's Department. Well, better late than never, right, better late
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  than never. And I'm not going to hold these current
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  people responsible for the failures of the state previously, but
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  they better do the right thing and this better not
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  be just some kind of theater. Right. Oh, we're outraged
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  about what happened, and we're going to be performative, but
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  nothing's going to come of it. We can't have that now.
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  I'm not saying they have to find people that are guilty,
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  but they have to do their best when it comes
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  to investigating. They can't leave anything unturned, and they have
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  to go wherever the evidence leads, even if that leads
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  to so called faiths. Our aim is to repair the
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  body politic that was violated in New Mexico, in this
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  country and around the world by one man's predation and
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  by the silence and complicity and failure of many individuals
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  and institutions by the power to stop it and did not.
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  Democratic Representative Andrea Romero, the chair of the commission, said,
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  we will not be the next ones who have the
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  power to act and chose not to. Look. You have
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  to commend them. And I know people want to say, oh,
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  it's politically driven it's all about going after Trump and look,
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  on the federal level, there's some truth to that, but
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  when we're talking about this state led investigation, that's not
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  what this is about. This is about trying to get
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  to the bottom of what went down. And you have
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  two Democrats and two Republicans sitting on this committee, and
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  hopefully they're going to work together to try to get
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  to the bottom of what occurred. And I encourage anybody
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  that has any information about New Mexico to come forward,
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  because there's a lot that went down there, and there's
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  a lot of people that manage the situation and a
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  lot of people that help Jeffrey Epstein do what he did.
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  And remember that doesn't mean that everybody took part in
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  the abuse. I'm not looking at this through the lens
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  that they gave me. I'm looking at this through the
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  lens of this being a criminal enterprise, because that's what
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  it is, and like I always tell you, when you
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  look at it through that lens, it's a whole less
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  different story. The committee also plans on physically surveying the ranch,
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  speaking with survivors, and coordinating with local and federal law enforcement,
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  as well as US Congress culminating with a final report
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  on its findings. The lawmaker said Monday the next update
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  will come in July. It was not clear exactly what
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  kind of evidence the Commission will be seeking from these
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  entities and how successful it will be in obtaining the information.
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  If they subpoenate it, they're gonna get it. These banks
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  aren't gonna play games. They have shareholders, they know better
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  some of the other organizations. They might try and you know,
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  gum things up a bit. But at the end of
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  the day, a subpoena is a subpoena, and the State
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  of New Mexico certainly has the power to subpoena people
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  who might have committed crimes in their state. And remember
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  all the way back last year when I was talking
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  about dual sovereignty, this is what I meant, and nobody
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  was talking about it, and nobody's talking about it still.
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  But dual sovereignty is a real thing, and it's a
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  real tool that the government can use locally if the
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  FEDS refuse to do their job and go after the
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  people that they should be going after. So I would
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  expect to see more of this. Monday's development mark one
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  more example of the growing calls to investigate and get
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  to the bottom of the full extent of the late
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  sex offenders' crimes years after Epstein's death. Yo, that's all
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  I've ever asked for. I know there's a lot of
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  people out here that say a lot of things, but
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  for me, it's always been I want a robust investigation,
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  because that's never occurred. Now, if that investigation occurs, and
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  it's done fairly, and it's done the right way, and
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  it comes back that there's nothing there, I'll be the
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  first one to get on this podcast and say, look,
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  we had it wrong. We completely misinterpreted the whole situation,
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  but unfortunately we're right over the target. This is not
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  a situation I want to be right about. I wish
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  I was wrong about all of this, and I wish
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  this was as overblown as some people try and make
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  it out to be. But me personally, my demands have
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  remained the same. A real robust public investigation. That's it,
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  nothing more, And if that makes me a conspiracy theorist
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  or a traitor, then hey, so be it. Zora Ranch,
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  a sprawling piece of property outside of Santa Fe and
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  one of the multiple homes that Epstein owned, has been
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  the source of much speculation and conspiracy theories about Epstein's
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  abuse of young women and girls. Some of Epstein's survivors,
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  including Chante Davies and the late Virginia Roberts, have said
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  the ranch was one of the places where Epstein's actually
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  assaulted them. Let's not forget about Annie. Let's not forget
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  that Annie was brought to that ranch under the pretense
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  that other girls of age were going to be there.
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  She gets there and there's nobody else there but her
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  and Maxwell and Epstein. And then how about Maria's account
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  She told us about New Mexico, and then her story
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  was backed up by the art student. And don't even
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  get me started about what Virginia said. Forget it. Her
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  and I had several conversations about Zoro Ranch, especially around
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  the time that I went down there, and she was
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  very vocal about what was happening on that ranch and
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  about how many girls were abused there. So, look, I'm
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  not going to sit here and tell you I know
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  the extent of what happened. What I do know, though,
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  is what did happen there was absolutely evil and unconscionable,
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  and the fact that nobody has ever been held accountable
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  is on ect. I experienced a lot of trauma personally there,
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  and it was a very isolated location to be at,
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  and it was a very scary place, Davis told CNN
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  in a recent interview. You could feel the darkness there. Look,
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  I was never on the property per se, but just
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  standing in the driveway trying to get them to come out,
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  you could tell how desolate it is. And you know
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  that people who aren't familiar with the area, with the terrain,
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  you can't get away from there. What are you gonna
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  do hid through the desert If you don't know what
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  you're doing, you have no skills. You're done for. If
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  the elements don't get you, the wildlife will. We're not
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  talking about a place where you can walk to the
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  local gas station. This place was desolate, and that was
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  by design. The island had all that water surrounding it.
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  This property had the desert and it acted as a
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  natural mote. So these girls would get out there and
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  they'd experience this desolation and they would know very quickly
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  that there was no escape. The Justice Department's recent release
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  of millions of pages of Epstein files has fueled fresh
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  calls from survivors advocates, lawmakers, and others to probe why
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  for decades, local and federal law enforcement had failed to
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  thoroughly examine Epstein's vast sex trafficking ring and those who
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  aided him, including what might have transpired at Zoro Ranch.
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  People are finally asking the right questions, and look, folks,
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  I gotta tell you, I will be the happiest guy
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  on the planet when we don't have to talk about
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  this ever again. I despise this topic, and I mean
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  that it's so disgusting, so disturbing, and so depressing that
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  I despise it. And the easier thing to do would
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  be to ignore it, like most people do. But unfortunately
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  that's not how I'm built. Once I get a look
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  behind the curtain and I see something fucked up, there's
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  no going back. So that leaves us with one option, right,
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  and that is to bite down on our mouth piece
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  and keep moving forward. Epstein's co conspirator, Glenn Maxwell, is
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  the only person who has ever been prosecuted in relation
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  to Epstein. She is currently serving a sentence at a
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  minimum security prison in Texas. New Mexico's Attorney General, Roald Torres,
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  said in February that he was reopening the state's criminal
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  investigation into Epstein's activities in Zoro Ranch, and has been
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  soliciting information from the public who might have knowledge about
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  the matter. On the heels of the announcement, state authorities
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  conducted their own physical search of the ranch in March.
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  It's not clear what pertinent evidence, if any, was found
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  during that search. My guess is not much. We have
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  to be real here, right, and chances are any evidence
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  that might have been there is long gone. The Truth
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  Commission recently launched a new website that includes what it
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  says is a confidential tip line and information about its
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  ongoing work. The panel says it has a two million
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  dollar budget and plans to coordinate with the state's Justice Department,
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  and that's going to be important. They have to make
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  sure they're coordinating with the authorities in the state, especially
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  if they're looking to indict people. We deserve answers, we
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  deserve the truth, We deserve transparency, justice and accountability. Epstein's revivor,
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  Rachel Benavitez, who said she was abused at Zorah Ranch,
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  set up Monday's hearing. She also said she's more than
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  a slacious story and boy is she write about that
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  this is so much more than just a sex trafficking ring,
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  and it's so much more than these slacious stories that
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  people can't stop talking about. That's the distraction. That's a
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  side show. Following the money trail, following the evidence, that's
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  how you get to where you're going. Also, speaking at
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  New Mexico's meeting, Robert's sister in law, Amanda Roberts, employed
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  legislators to follow every investigative lead to its fullest conclusion,
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  uncover the truth wherever it leads, and bring forward charges
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  against any potential co conspirator, abuser, enabler, or an individual
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  who knowingly helped sustain this criminal network. All of that
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  should be happening. If you knowingly helped Jeffrey Epstein, you
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  should definitely be under investigation, especially if that led to
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  people being abused, or money being laundered or stolen, or
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  immigration fraud happening. All of it's important, and all of
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  it should be investigated. How and why Jeffrey Epstein was
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  able to operate a sex trafficking enterprise for so long
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  right here in this very community, Roberts asked, And I
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  think a lot of people in New Mexico are wondering
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  the same thing. And when I went down there in
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  twenty twenty, all the people I talked to, local people,
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  some ex law enforcement, they all said the same thing.
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  We all knew something crazy was going on at that ranch.
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  We didn't know the extent of it, and we certainly
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  didn't know that Jeffrey Epstein was as well connected as
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  he was. But now with all this information coming out
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  and this Truth Commission being unpaneled, I'm guessing that we're
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  going to see more people from New Mexico come forward.
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  So we'll keep an eye on this one like usual,
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  and when we have some more information to share, we'll
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  get it added to the catalog. All the information that
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  goes with this episode can be found in the description box.