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The GOP is a Hot Mess on the Brink of Civil War · Man in America Podcast

• 2:13
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So what was supposed to be a red tsunami turned out to be a red ripple. And considering the same machines and processes haven't really changed since 2020, did we really expect anything different? And while many folks are pointing to the left crying foul, the enemies within our own party played perhaps an even more damaging role.
• 2:39
  And fundamentally, the midterm elections have highlighted a deeply fractured Republican Party, which is showing itself in the recent tensions between president Trump and Ron DeSantis. So how do we make sense of everything? Where's the path forward? Joining us today is political expert Chris Prosh, who was with me last night covering the midterms live to discuss all this and more. But first, make sure you're following me on Telegram and Truth Social at Man in America.
• 3:05
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• 3:25
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• 3:49
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• 5:27
  Let's go ahead and jump into the show today. I've got Chris on. If you didn't watch the coverage we did last night during the midterms, I still recommend it because we got into much deeper discussions about what was happening, the the depth of fraud that we were seeing, how to, you know, kind of move forward with this, some predictions, and we're gonna be diving right back in today. So we're gonna be looking at a little bit of a recap of what we saw happen, what we think is gonna be happening, what Chris Bricks is gonna happen in the next couple of days, especially with candidates like Carrie Lake, who were on the edge of our seat waiting for those results to come in. But we're also gonna be looking at what is this what is the bigger picture?
• 6:03
  What are we seeing with the Republican Party? What are some of Chris's sources at Mar A Lago and other places telling him about Trump's plans for 2024, especially as it relates to DeSantis? This is a big issue because a lot was revealed in these midterms. So let's go ahead and welcome our guest today, Chris Prosh. So, Chris, thank you very, very much for joining me again today.
• 6:24
  How are you doing?
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Great, Seth. How are you?
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: I'm great. I mean, you know, I I Yeah. I I feel, you know, pretty good overall, because I don't think I really got my hopes up that much. I mean, I really, you know, I really wanted to see a lot more happen. I really want to see that red tsunami.
• 6:43
  But I also I look, I was very realistic with myself and with the folks I've been watching and saying, we haven't really changed that much since 2020. And so if we if we haven't fixed 2020, can we really expect that big of a difference? If you look at Fetterman and all the, you know, the machines down in Maricopa, it's like, how are we here? But it's like, well, we've been here before. So what are your thoughts though, Chris?
• 7:09
  Maybe I'm a little bit too cynical. I wanna see what you think.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: No. I think the whole nation's pretty cynical right now, especially over the past two years. You know, we've really seen, you know, last night, you know, I wouldn't even call it, you know, a red tsunami. You know, would say it was a red wave, just a little baby one. It wasn't the 50 foot wave as everybody thought it was gonna be.
• 7:26
  It was a five or six foot one. Like the
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach vacation wave. You you you take your boogie board on it.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. It's like the GOP didn't go to Hawaii. They went to they went to Virginia. Yeah.
• 7:38
  For a vacation. But but no. Yeah, a %. So yeah, mean, you know, yeah, I, I would agree with you. You know, we, we all knew, you know, heading into last end, Pennsylvania is gonna be close.
• 7:47
  Georgia's gonna go to December unfortunately. You know, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see how the Libertarians, you know, if the Libertarians show up the support for Walker in Georgia over the next month. You know, Arizona is just a complete disaster like usual. This is now what, the fourth election in four years where the Maricopa County has, you know, had election issues. How convenient for them.
• 8:08
  We don't hear
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: like charge of elections in Arizona.
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: Katie Hobbs. Yeah. George Soros. Yeah. Yeah.
• 8:18
  The Klaus Schwab. Yeah. No. But, yeah, Arizona is gonna be, I think it's gonna take a couple days. You know, we could see results by the end of the night.
• 8:27
  I think last report was, Cary Lake was down one point, not even less than that, to Katie Hobbs with 66% reporting. So, you know, we'll see probably by the end of the day, maybe early tomorrow morning. Nevada is shaping up pretty good for us and the governor and the senate. Although they just, you know, found magical more votes, I guess, know, that they need to take a couple extra days to count, you know, mail in. So it's yeah, it's it's it's interesting.
• 8:50
  But people have to understand, you know, I there's a lot of frustration out there, you know, in my opinion, the media is probably overplaying it. Hollywood will be eviscerating conservatives for the next two weeks until there's a new narrative to to follow. But again, you know, I wanted I do wanna clarify this. You know, people have to understand it's it's a it's a culmination of a couple of different You know, the the the Democrats largely out fundraise Republicans almost four to one. You know, I mean, I have the I have the results right here, I mean, in in the seven battleground states, they out fundraised us four to one.
• 9:18
  You know, look look at look at Beto O'Rourke and and Stacey Abrams. Just two candidates running for governor. Both of them in the past four years, you know, Stacey Abrams has ran for governor twice and lost. Beto O'Rourke's ran for senate, governor, senate. Those two people collectively over the past four years have wasted half a billion dollars in just those two races.
• 9:40
  I honestly, I don't know how the Democrats can justify this to their donor base that, you know, in the midterms over the past four years, really, they've wasted over $2,000,000,000 and they're just barely squeaking by. That that is not a great return on investment.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of, you know, just a it's insane because if you look at a lot of people that are voting more liberal, they're the ones that are against the system. Right? They're the ones that are complaining about the the, you know, the corp giant corporations paying no taxes. But if if you look at where the money's coming from, it's like the it's just they've there's this giant SIOP because it's like the the 1% really occupy Wall Street. It's okay.
• 10:16
  Well, they're gonna put a place all the blame on these conservatives that maybe their business owners are making, you know, a few million dollars a year, etcetera. Like, they're like, that's the wealthy class that we're after, yet the whole thing's being funded by the elites. It by the George Soros' or the Bill Gates or the Mark Zuckerbergs. They don't really realize that they've just become pawns for the elites. And the crazy thing is, is as much as there's all this, you know, stuff about the the race wars and everything, well, people that are driving the entire narrative at the very top, they're a bunch of old white guys.
• 10:48
  So it's, you know, it's just, it's so it's so backwards. It's so backwards.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: I use the Disney, you know, as an example. Disney, you know, basically, that was legal for them to operate as their own separate entity outside of the state. And they're governed and operated by old white guys. We have the Democrats trying to defend them and the Liberals trying to defend them. Like, they're a multibillion dollar organization that has literally gotten away with legalized theft by not paying taxes for the better part of fifty years.
• 11:14
  But yeah, yeah, please, please continue, Liberal Hipster, with your, you know, your iPhone and your $6 Starbucks, you know, unless you're about I
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: know. I know. So before the show, you and I were talking, and, obviously, we saw a whole host of issues from the machines not working, you know, Sharpiegate two point o, someone got electrocuted, which shut down the voting here. You know, that's obvious. So it's obvious to me that there was an incredible amount of rigging in this election.
• 11:46
  But someone you know, that when you were talking to me, you brought a very different perspective, because you understand a lot more how this works on a party level and within the GOP. And what you had said is it seemed like what you were seeing were very almost intentional actions taken by the GOP to almost make sure that we lost. And so I think it's, again, it's really easy for us to look at people and say, Fetterman, he cheated, or this person cheated. But, actually, you know, we should be aware by now that we have RINOs within our own party and that I think a good part of the Republican Party at at that level, they're just as controlled as, you know, say, a Fetterman or a Hillary Clinton for that matter.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: No. You're a % right again, Seth. I mean, you know, I honestly you know, outside of outside of Democrats out fundraising us four, five to one, you know, I just I saw a very lackluster performance from the GOP establishment. I did not see Mitch McConnell. I did not see Kevin McCarthy.
• 12:43
  I didn't see them really get out and galvanize our base. If they want the people of America, the Republican base, the Christian base, the conservative base to move beyond Trump, that's fine if you want to. But you better prove to us that you can deliver on election day like he has for us. If you can't, then be quiet. You know, again, I mean, Trump went to pretty much every single state.
• 13:02
  Again, I didn't see Governor Yankin doing that in Virginia. I didn't see, you know, McCarthy doing that. I didn't see McConnell doing that. And, again, our base was very, you know, un galvanized. Our grassroots performance was very, very, isolated.
• 13:14
  You know, didn't see the GOP really getting out, you know, and helping Cary Lake. I didn't really see them helping out, you know, Adam Laxalt in Nevada. These were very highly concentrated elections where they're basically left to their own vices in their own states. The McConnell and McCarthy had a very hands off approach. I don't know if it was arrogance.
• 13:29
  I don't know what it was, but it's just, you know, the next two weeks is gonna be a giant blame game. So
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: It is. Absolutely. And so what are you seeing? Because, I mean, obviously, this is showing there is a this divide. And we've known about it.
• 13:42
  Right? We saw what happened with with Trump in the office for four years and how little support he had from his own party. But it seems like it's really intensifying now. And so we've also got, you know, for the first time that, you know, really kind of publicly Trump calling out DeSantis, you know, calling him Ron DeSantimonious and some other different spats happening at that level. What do you make of this?
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, my colleagues and my sources down in Florida have, you know, overwhelmingly reported to me that, you know, President Trump and Ron DeSantis have a great relationship. There are some who would even credit, President Trump to getting Governor DeSantis elected in 2018 over Andrew Gillum, the former mayor of Tallahassee, you know, when Ron DeSantis barely won that election, you know, and hands off to to Governor DeSantis. He had a great had a great, victory yesterday, especially in the Miami area. All Republicans did in Florida.
• 14:34
  There was a huge red wave in Florida, so we can't discredit that. But, you know, for President Trump to have that shot across the bow, if you will, that I wouldn't say that was necessarily about DeSantis. I would say he utilized that as as an as an example to the to the GOP establishment because there are reports coming out that, Governor DeSantis is meeting with Rhino, former Speaker Paul Ryan, as well as who will be the next speaker, Kevin McCarthy, and by some extension of Mitch McConnell. They're wanting to see him as our next presidential nominee. And that's fine.
• 15:05
  You know, Governor DeSantis is a fantastic governor. But the problem is president Trump is still there, and a lot of people wanna see those two run together because president Trump was a highly successful president who, again, for the better part of six years, has had zero to no support from Mitch McConnell, from Kevin McCarthy outside of Washington DC policy.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Why do you think because, you know, publicly, Ron DeSantis has really expressed from what I've seen that, you know, like, he just wants to be the governor. He's doing an amazing job. And I think actually the role that he plays as the governor of Florida is perhaps even more important of a role than he could play as vice president or even as president, because, you know, it's really he's reminding us of the constitution by saying and showing the power should be in the states. Right? And he's exerting that power as the governor, and he's doing, you know, amazing things.
• 15:55
  Like, it's like, again, was it a red wave just in Florida, or was it a red wave in Florida because he fixed a lot of the voting problems and blocked the National Guard and, you know, did all of that. Right? So but why you know, with with the success that he's having in Florida and the respect that he has, really, I think, as America's Governor, why do you think that he's even exploring the potential of running against Trump? Because that I mean, I'm not gonna say it would be treasonous because, you know, this is this is politics. He can do whatever he wants to.
• 16:22
  But that would deeply I mean, could deeply divide our our our country in in ways that perhaps we haven't seen yet.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I mean, look, you know, the Republican establishment would love nothing more than to move beyond Trump, you know, and they feel that DeSantis is their guy. And I believe that one day he probably will be president. It's it's just dependent on if it's gonna be '24 or '28 or whenever, you know. But again, the fact of the matter is, you know, people need to think about this for a minute.
• 16:51
  You know, Trump had a, oh gosh, 95% success rate with his endorsed candidates winning last night. DeSantis didn't have that. Of the of the candidates that he endorsed, I think it was barely 60%. I mean, let's not forget, he's he endorsed that, O'Day, candidate for US Senate in Colorado who was a RINO, you know, so assist I mean, the the fact of the matter is Ron DeSantis is exploring this because he is a very popular governor. He has a great track record in Florida, but his track record outside of Florida is tumultuous at best.
• 17:21
  Trump has a proven track record in almost every single state. You know, can DeSantis really go to Iowa and really drum up support in a very conservative state? Can he do that in Idaho? Can he do that in Montana? Can he do that in Alaska?
• 17:32
  Trump has. So, you know, I I would just honestly, you know, again, I respect and and, deeply, you know, I'm very fond of president Trump and Ron DeSantis, but they're gonna have to figure this out for themselves because what's gonna happen is you're gonna have to sit down and and go through the numbers.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: What do you think would even open the door to him having these discussions? Do you think that it's, you know, just the possibility of power, of money, or do you think that I think it's it's almost like even I guess, you know, again, this is, you know, like, it's it's the the process of politics that candidates can run if they want to. But, you know, I don't know. It just seems to me that looking at Descendants and what he's done with this country, it to me, like and, again, it's hard to say what I would do if I was him, but the best thing for him would be to say, look. If if I wanna start hitting that level, let's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: talk
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: about me being Trump's vice president and then, you know, then taking control in 2028. So what do you think is is happening there that that would cause him to even explore a presidential bid?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. You know, I mean, the fact that he Ron DeSantis probably would have the Republican establishment support. You know, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan, know, Mitt Romney, they would all love even, you know, even governor, Yonkin in Virginia, they would all love to see a more polished version of someone like Trump. And Ron DeSantis is very Trump like.
• 18:56
  He's a little more polished, a little more toned down, but his his policy and his rhetoric is still equally aggressive. But again, though, I'm Ron if I'm Governor DeSantis, again, if I'm sitting down with Paul Ryan and McCarthy, what is the best that they can offer us? What's the what's the very best that he can offer, you know, they can offer on DeSantis? Maybe a war chest of maybe 300,000,000, maybe 400,000,000. But, but the problem is the establishment Republicans have lost the support of the American voters.
• 19:23
  Again, I highly doubt it. I highly doubt Ron DeSantis could fill a stadium of people in Iowa and Texas of twenty, thirty, 40, 50 thousand people. Trump has the name recognition. He's a celebrity. He can fund he's a fundraising demigod.
• 19:39
  As I said last night, he can fundraise close to a billion dollars in four to five months. DeSantis, I don't know if he can do that outside of Florida. And and that's what he needs to seriously consider is Trump has the base and he has the money, you know, and the Republican Party has money, but not nearly as much. Trump can outfund raise the GOP by himself three to one, and he has support the people, and the and the Republicans don't have that. So Ron DeSantis better think very, very carefully.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a very good point. What I'm seeing just with so many aspects of society, it's not just politics, but you look at this through the political perspective, is that what we're seeing is a separation. We're seeing that things are getting more extreme. The good and evil are becoming more extreme.
• 20:20
  You know, in JFK's era, could say you're a Democrat, and it's like, okay. I I understand it. Right? But now the the the party talking points and the stance, it's like you either support killing babies at you know, to term, or you wanna protect life. You either support giving out, you know, free, you know, heroin, you know, needles and and drugs to drug addicts and giving away free citizenships to illegal immigrants or whatever, or you support the opposite, there's really not a middle ground anymore.
• 20:49
  And I think that I look at this, you know, through a more kind of spiritual perspective or biblical perspective and say, look, I I believe that we're entering into a time period where the wheat is being separated from the chaff, and the good and evil are becoming more and more distinct. You can no longer hide within, say, the Democrat party like you did twenty years ago and still feel like you're morally okay. It's actually it's like if you're still going along with it, it's becoming more and more of a really a a communist controlled party. And I think that that people really are making decisions right now that, you know, really could echo an eternity with how they're acting. And so that same process of the extremes being pulled out and and the the divide happening, do you see that also happening within the Republican Party and within the GOP that we're we're having this separation now between the Trump endorsed America First patriots and We the People in the establishment GOP.
• 21:46
  I mean, are you seeing that? And if you are, how do you see this playing out over the next year or two?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We've been seeing that divide grow since 2010. You know, I mean, ever since, you know and you give credit to some small degree, Sarah Palin, really starting the the Tea Party movement if you want to. And Trump is a byproduct of that symptom. You know, he really is.
• 22:04
  He, you know, he is the Tea Party candidate, if you will. A large growing population of the Republican base that is concerned with rising taxes, out of control spending, you know, Roe v Wade, you know, before President Trump's Supreme Court overturned it, you know, foreign relations, you know, just feeling like, again, factory workers, pastors, teachers are feeling completely ostracized by the Republican establishment. I mean, we expect the Democrats to ignore us and and and push socialist policies. But again, we're so sick and tired of, and by that I mean the Bates, Republican base is so sick and tired of cowardly Republicans like Mitt Romney basically just siding with Democrats and saying, you know what? Do whatever you want.
• 22:42
  We'll push back kind of, but, oh, but I'll go back to my base and beg them to reelect me. It's just that's it's not a winning strategy. So over the next two years, what we're gonna see is we're going to see Trump will probably announce here in two weeks. His base will grow. He will viciously attack, Biden for having basically no wins, at least no no big wins.
• 22:59
  His own party's destroying him. We'll have the House Carth, you're gonna try to shore up their donor.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So, Chris, can say for some reason, froze just in I'll cut I'll cut that out, which means I'll have to edit the video now. But so you say you're saying that we've got the house.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Mhmm. Yeah. So, you know, so what we'll have the house. We'll have the senate by by one, you know, if if not worst case scenario, fifty fifty. But, again, the the the party's getting more and more divided because, again, how can McCarthy and how can McConnell go back to their donor base and say, give us more money.
• 23:36
  We'll find a great candidate. If it's not DeSantis, it'll be Jankin. If it's not Jankin, it'll be someone else. Again, the problem is the GOP doesn't have the base the base support. That's what it really comes down to.
• 23:46
  And they're so tired of Trump having that having that control over the party. So what we're gonna see what we're gonna see is is a is a bigger divide with that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And probably a real populist uprising in America.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And and that's what we've seen with, like, JD Vance, with, with Chewbacca in, in Alaska, with Carrie O'Lake. You're seeing Trump's people really putting forth their own candidates, and the GOP hates it. And that's why, again, the GOP up until today has really had us had a had a a a distance to Kerry alike and to even J.
• 24:20
  D. Vance. Mitch McConnell helped him out a little bit in Ohio, but he could have known a lot more. So Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: For people that have gotten to a place where they're like, I've just lost hope in the political system. And for people that saw what happened in 2020, realized that they weren't taking it serious enough and spent the last two years, the last six months, last month, one year, etcetera, really going out, and whether they're canvassing to, you know, try to work on audits, or they're just working, you know, getting behind candidates like Mastriano or Carrie Lake, etcetera, for people like that, which I believe are really represent We The People, the the true American patriots that are trying to save our country, this was a big letdown. And what would you say to folks like that just to keep us going? Because, obviously, we don't want people just to give up. We don't want people to fall into apathy.
• 25:11
  We don't want something to spawn a civil war, you know, which then leads to, you know, a complete Biden dictatorship, whether they're doing martial law or and who knows what. But what what is the message to people about here's how we got to keep going, and here's where there's going be some hope for us?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say, honestly, it starts at the local level. You know, it starts with again, like I said last night, it starts with with the mayoral election, starts with the city council, starts with the county commissioners. You know, people I understand your frustrations. If you don't have faith in president Trump, you don't have faith in Mitch McConnell, you know, that's fine.
• 25:45
  I would say, again, take care of your own backyard because nothing there's nothing more conservative, nothing more Christian than just taking care of your own backyard, your own church community, your own, you know, your own county, you know, that your your own part of the state. That's where it starts. You know what mean? And when we did see that a little bit, you know, in Iowa and Idaho and some smaller states, we did see a great, increase in local control of school boards of of mayoral races. So that so that mean, like I said, the the hope is out there.
• 26:11
  Just don't get so focused on whatever the media is telling you. There yes. There is a there is a Republican civil war going on right now, and it'll be between Trump and the establishment. That's just a fact. But it again, it really decides on who you're gonna side with.
• 26:25
  You know, is it gonna be with the people or is it gonna be with with the, with the people that have been basically telling you for forty years, you know, we got it we got it right once with Reagan. Just give us more time. Well, I'm sorry, but since Reagan you've given us Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, two Bushes, you know, no. We don't we don't we don't trust your process anymore. So honestly, the people have to unite together with one voice and say, I'm sorry, but we we we have no faith in you.
• 26:47
  So in my opinion, what we should be doing is have a to to to steal parliament here, we need to have a unanimous show no confidence in Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, especially if McCarthy does not deliver in two months.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. And I also think that just fundamentally, this is war. And, like, we we really have to be very sober about that. We're not just up against this is politics as usual. You know, we're up against infiltration by the Chinese, by the Russians, by the globalists.
• 27:21
  We're looking at people you know, we're up against the Soros, the Zuckerbergs, the CIA. This is actually a war. And I think that the more we can frame it like that, this isn't just another normal two years, another four years as as it used to be. Right? We have to really do our best, and this is I'm really trying to work on with myself, is to say, as long as this takes.
• 27:43
  Like, I'm just gonna keep at it. Like, they're like, what's the option? Like, what is the other option? Is it just to give up? Is it just to say, you know what?
• 27:52
  You know, you won? No. Like, we we just have to keep going. We have to keep praying. We have to keep fighting for our children.
• 27:58
  We have to get more involved in local politics. I mean, that's I mean, to me, that's the only way forward is we just have to lick our wounds, get up, and just keep going. Because Well, I Go ahead. Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: No. I mean, I I just wanna highlight on that because you bring up a great point. I mean, the you know, what's happening right now is there's there's a division in three ways. You know, there's there's a Trump way. There's a GOP establishment way, then there's a Ron DeSantis way.
• 28:22
  That's literally the future of our party currently over the next two years. You know, you have Trump who's again, who his endorsed candidates won 95% of the races that they had last night. Then you had the Mitch McConnells, you know, and Rhonda McDaniel, let's throw her in the mix. Where was she last night from that perspective? Because again, I'm sorry.
• 28:39
  We the GOP was very disorganized, especially in Michigan, especially in New Hampshire, you know, especially in Wisconsin. Again, it's just we I you know, let's just take Michigan as an example. We had eight Republican candidates running for governor, and I think most of them, I think all but two, were indicted for FEC violations. I mean, it's just the the GOP structure has got to get organized. And then there's the DeSantis way.
• 29:02
  And people love DeSantis. But again, let's let's just let's peel it back a little bit. He is very popular in Florida, but can he take that same popularity to Georgia, to Virginia? And honestly, I I think that's gonna be a real awakening for him. So but but, you know, Seth, you're a % right.
• 29:17
  The the the Christian base, the Republican base has got to step up and demand better from our elected officials.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, for me, you know, Trump's still my guy. You know, I'm Mhmm. I've I've got my issues.
• 29:31
  I'm I'm really I've got a lot of bones to pick as it relates to the vaccine, and that's a whole different issue. But fundamentally, if I'm looking at the playing field, if I'm looking at everything, this is still the guy that I believe is trying to bring us back to the constitution, back to the 1776 commission that he set up. You know, he's really he's playing the role that I think the a the lead the kind of leader we need right now is playing. And and so, you know, that's just that's where I stand. I I love DeSantis.
• 30:00
  I'd support him infinitely as a VP for Trump. But if he went up against Trump, especially backed by the RINOs and and and the GOP funding, like, to me, it's it's honestly, a candidate is only as good as their funding. Right? And you look at anybody you can trace back to George Soros or anybody can trace back to to Big Pharma, whatever it is, a candidate is only because that's that those are the strings of the puppet master. And so, you know, Trump, he's he's outside of that.
• 30:27
  So that's that's my stance.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Which is another reason why they hate
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Because typically in the past, the party absorbs a candidate and his name. Well, the opposite happened with Trump, and that's why they hate him. It's just because, again, he's not beholding anybody. I think if I remember correctly, he is the I think since Reagan, he's a large he actually surpassed Reagan in small dollar donations. So I mean, you know, mom and pop shops, farmers, ranchers, factory workers, they're donating $20.30 dollars at a time.
• 30:56
  And again, that's really upsetting it. So and I think the Republican Party's gonna get to a point where they're gonna say, we don't have the support that he does. Do we latch on to his name? Because I mean, let me I and and that's what kills me. Ronald McDaniel should love Trump.
• 31:08
  I mean, how much money has he given them through donations, through fundraising assistance over the past four years that, again, will not be matched to anybody else? I mean, I I love Ted Cruz. Marco Rubio is great. DeSantis is great. And I think we have a stable filled with thoroughbred candidates that'll be great presidential candidates.
• 31:24
  But unfortunately, fortunately, however you look at it, we're still we're still in the Trump era, and it's not gonna go it's not gonna go away anytime soon. But I will say, you know, bringing it full circle back to the, to the election. You know, if Kerry Lee, God forbid, does not win, president Trump might have to rethink things a little bit because he definitely with the with the Democrats not allowing Republicans to take, Pennsylvania again in a presidential election, Trump needs Nevada and Arizona to offset that loss. And if he if they can't deliver today and tomorrow, it'll be a lot more difficult.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree. Well, Chris, thank you again for joining me. And let's just we'll keep our eyes on things, and we'll have you, you know, come back and give us some updates as things evolve. But let's just keep, you know, keep our head up, keep pushing forward.
• 32:07
  That's the that's the only option we've got. We might as well just put a smile on our face and keep going.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. And hope that McCarthy delivers.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I hope so. All right. Take care, Chris. Have a good one.