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116 The Sasquatch Star People Are Real—Here's What They Want · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: So with all that out of the way, let's welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show. Somebody very interesting today. This is Arla
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  Speaker 1: Collette Williams. Hello, madam, Hi, hi, oh. I love all
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  Speaker 1: your artwork behind you gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: This is my tie die up there. This is a
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  Speaker 2: painting of a star that I have seen that someone
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  Speaker 2: did for me by my telling them, you know what
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  Speaker 2: to do. So yeah, I like color.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. You got that? You get yourself one
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  Speaker 1: of those little quarts or whatever that is behind you.
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  Speaker 2: That isn't amethyst. I think she's like fourteen inches tall.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I call her grandmother ametheyst because she is
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  Speaker 2: an amethyst.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, please do please do us a favorite and
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  Speaker 1: introduce yourself. Tell us a little bit about you, where
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  Speaker 1: we can find you, What what it is that you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking, I want to hear listen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm of course article youngs. I am seventy six
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  Speaker 2: years old, and I had my first full on encounter
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  Speaker 2: with the Sasquatch people when I was six and I
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  Speaker 2: was at my grandmother's. I was outside playing in the
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  Speaker 2: dirt and I had sticks and rocks and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and I heard someone walk up and I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was my grandmother, but when I looked up, it was
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  Speaker 2: a young male juvenile and he was close to me.
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  Speaker 2: We just stared at each other for a little while,
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  Speaker 2: and then he just turned around and walked off, and
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  Speaker 2: so I jumped up and I ran in the house
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  Speaker 2: and I told my grandmother what I'd seen, and I said,
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  Speaker 2: what was that, Granny? And she just said to me,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think it was? And she let me
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  Speaker 2: think about it for a while, and then she started
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  Speaker 2: teaching me about them.
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  Speaker 1: And she knew she knew, yes, she had.
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  Speaker 2: Her own experience with them. She grew up in the
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  Speaker 2: Boston Mountains in Arkansas, and yeah, she had known about them.
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  Speaker 2: And one of those photos that I sent you was
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  Speaker 2: of her doing the big Foot walk, and uh, that
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  Speaker 2: was done in the early fifties. Is the closest that
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  Speaker 2: we could come to the date of when it was,
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  Speaker 2: so that pre dated Jerry CRUs and the Paising gam one.
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  Speaker 2: And when she gave me that photo, I'd never seen
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  Speaker 2: and ask her, I said, grand what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, do in the walk and she kind
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  Speaker 2: of grinned, and she couldn't remember either at that time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, exactly when that was, but because of the
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  Speaker 2: vehicles and things and there, we figured it had to
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  Speaker 2: be in the early fifties.
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  Speaker 1: There she is, there's just there's just there she is
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  Speaker 1: getting down. Look at her.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and she had said, yes, she's.
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  Speaker 1: Demonstrating here how they walk.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, that's what she was doing. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I love that photo and I've had it for several years.
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  Speaker 2: She gave it to me a few years before she died.
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  Speaker 2: We had gone through some things and we found it
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  Speaker 2: because I grew up, I'd never seen it until then,
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  Speaker 2: and and so, you know, it was just another one
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  Speaker 2: of those things of yes, she knew, you know, she
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  Speaker 2: knew exactly. I've I've been a part of I guess
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  Speaker 2: what you would call this Bigfoot community of people. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a researcher. I don't research, you know, I've known
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  Speaker 2: about them for seventy years, okay, math, you know, And
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  Speaker 2: so you know, I grew up knowing them and knowing
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  Speaker 2: about them, you know, and that continues, you know, until today.
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  Speaker 2: But the interesting thing about that, as far as me
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  Speaker 2: being six when that happened. There was something that happened
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  Speaker 2: when I was three, and my mom and I were
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  Speaker 2: talking about it several years ago, and she asked me,
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  Speaker 2: she said, Arlie, do you remember when we lived in
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  Speaker 2: this house? And I knew exactly what she was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: And you were three and you were on the bed
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  Speaker 2: talking to something, And I said, how, Mom, I can
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  Speaker 2: remember that. And the reason it was etched in my
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  Speaker 2: mind is because my mom was in the closet getting
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  Speaker 2: clothes for the next day. My dad was in the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom taking a bath, and I was just sitting on
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  Speaker 2: the bed. Now I talked to everything. I could have
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  Speaker 2: a conversation with anything at that a and my grandmother
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  Speaker 2: had never taught me to be afraid of anything, and
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  Speaker 2: I could say anything to her. But I said, yeah, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting on the bed. You were in the
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  Speaker 2: closet and dad was in the bathroom, and you came
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  Speaker 2: out and you screamed, and dad grabbed a butcher knife
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  Speaker 2: in the kitchen and took out the door. And she
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  Speaker 2: had screamed for my dad and said, Arla's talking to
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  Speaker 2: a dirty, hairy man. He's at the window, And she
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  Speaker 2: got this look on her face, and she asked me,
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  Speaker 2: she said, do you think that was a bigfoot? And
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, Mom, what do you think? And she said,
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  Speaker 2: I saw a bigfoot. Up until this time, she really
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  Speaker 2: had no desire to know anything or to talk about
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  Speaker 2: them or anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that was cool, Like towards the end there, you
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  Speaker 1: know that you guys were able to ye kind to
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  Speaker 1: connect on something that you've been doing your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: That is a cool thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was the acceptance and the realization of it too.
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  Speaker 1: And to be there when it happens is also a
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  Speaker 1: great memory for you that you always have. Its fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. And you know, at three, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a reference for what I was saying. It was
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  Speaker 2: just something I was talking to. And you know, so
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  Speaker 2: the reference came when I was six and my grandmother,
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  Speaker 2: you know, started teaching me about them. You know, through
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  Speaker 2: the years she told me many things. If I had
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  Speaker 2: a question about some thing, I could go to her
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  Speaker 2: and ask her and she would always say, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think?
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  Speaker 1: Mmm, that is awesome, and this is your this is
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  Speaker 1: your mom's mom.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it was my mom's mom.
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  Speaker 1: And your mom's mom knew about them, talked about them,
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  Speaker 1: But your mom didn't as much.
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  Speaker 2: She knew about them because in the family, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: talk about them in public or basically to any I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there were a few in the area that knew, but
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  Speaker 2: it was not general conversation. And my mom was scared
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  Speaker 2: of everything. She didn't like animals, She didn't like anything.
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  Speaker 2: She just you know, she liked a fish. And that's
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  Speaker 2: about as far as she came out, as.
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  Speaker 1: Long as you take it off the hook. Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I was always running off to the woods. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for for her to actually know that they existed but
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  Speaker 2: would never talk about them, and then for her to
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  Speaker 2: bring that back to me, that memory, I would have
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  Speaker 2: never put that two and two together if it had
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  Speaker 2: not been for you know, for her.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, what is that? What do you think that means
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  Speaker 1: that they would come and talk to you at such
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  Speaker 1: an early age.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that they know you, They
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  Speaker 2: watch you, and you know I was running off to
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  Speaker 2: the woods. They knew my grandmother, and they knew my
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  Speaker 2: grandmother was you know, going to be teaching me about
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  Speaker 2: them from her experiences and and so you know, they
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  Speaker 2: knew and the thing about having my grandmother other as
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  Speaker 2: I said before. She never taught me to fear anything.
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  Speaker 2: She always told me to if I was somewhere and
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  Speaker 2: I saw something or you know whatever, to ask who
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  Speaker 2: are you? You know, and not to be afraid immediately
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't have a reference for what I was saying.
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  Speaker 2: But I could always, you know, go to her now.
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  Speaker 2: From a very young age. I mean, I remember things
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  Speaker 2: that happened before I was a year old. And I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to my grandmother and I asked her when
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  Speaker 2: was the last year that she and mom picked cotton?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, you know, told me, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I told her some things, and she said, how did
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  Speaker 2: you know that you weren't even a year old yet?
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  Speaker 2: And what they had done. If you know anything about
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  Speaker 2: a cotton sack, they're real long, and so they would
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  Speaker 2: set me on the cotton sack or lay me at
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  Speaker 2: the end of it, and they could drag it and
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  Speaker 2: they were going down the road. I would be on that,
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  Speaker 2: but I was forever getting off of it and taking off.
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  Speaker 2: But I remembered it so clear, and you know, she said,
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  Speaker 2: how do you remember that? You know you aren't even
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  Speaker 2: a year very.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very tactile, it's a very tactile thing, because
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  Speaker 1: we know that the cotton the plant is a little
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  Speaker 1: like kind of thorny a little bit, and the dust,
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  Speaker 1: the dirt, your mom, the voices, the outside, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of tactile. I mean, it's amazing. Nonetheless, I agree
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  Speaker 1: with your with your grandmother's a you know, her presumption
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  Speaker 1: here that it's quite you know, interesting. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, being such a tactile type feeling with your family,
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine it would be something that would stick
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  Speaker 1: at least in your subconscious.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know. And I think that there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot too that is there within you that you just
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  Speaker 2: don't remember, and things can trigger those memories and it'll
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  Speaker 2: all come flooding back. And that's one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I've seen happen over the last several years. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like that so much when I first came to this,
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  Speaker 2: but that people are remembering things are being triggered of
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  Speaker 2: that's what I saw. That wasn't a bear or you
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  Speaker 2: know whatever, And these were from times when they were children.
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  Speaker 2: And I know I had worked with Kyle of punka
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine, and helping him come to better understanding
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  Speaker 2: of you know what we're dealing with with the bigfoot people.
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  Speaker 2: And as we were talking, he had a memory and
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  Speaker 2: he said, wait a minute. He had been down by
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  Speaker 2: the river when he was just a little boy and
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  Speaker 2: he slipped and fell in and a bear, he said,
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  Speaker 2: had saved him and carried him back up on to
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  Speaker 2: the shore. And he looked at me and he said,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't a bear. Bears don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: So you know that memory, isn't it great? How their
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  Speaker 1: brain kind of tries to contextualize, you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: and then there comes a moment of like realization where
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  Speaker 1: you're like, no, wait a minute, that was a sasquatch,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just it's just like and then but
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  Speaker 1: there's no But with some people, I can imagine me
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  Speaker 1: in a shocking revelation. With some people it's kind of like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense now, yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because and it's funny that you know, he
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  Speaker 2: went into this and you know, and that's what he
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  Speaker 2: told his parents, you know that this was a bear
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  Speaker 2: that did it. And of course, you know, they they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a problem with that, but there was always
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  Speaker 2: that question of how did a bear do that? And
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  Speaker 2: why would a bear do that? And then when he finally,
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  Speaker 2: you know, had that memory. He was like, that makes
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  Speaker 2: more sense than a bear right doing this, But that
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  Speaker 2: was his closest reference in his mind for what he
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  Speaker 2: was seen.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense to me, It makes complete and other sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, yeah, they got these. They got a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what it's called. In Germany, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that it was a snake. But it's a lizard.
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  Speaker 1: But it has no legs, but it's not a snake. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so I would call it a snake. They're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lizard. It's called a Blinschleischer. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: blind slitherer. And I was like, but it's a snake. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lizard. So like when your your frame of
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  Speaker 1: reference is that, it's what we do. It's what we do.
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  Speaker 1: It's why we try to rationalize the world and try
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  Speaker 1: to understand what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and people do that when they're in the woods
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  Speaker 2: and they have a siding all the time. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think so, oh yeah, I've seen that happen. And a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times how their encounter goes is by what's
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  Speaker 2: in their mind. And I always tell this one story,
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  Speaker 2: I was camping down in the Commish mountains with a group,
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  Speaker 2: and we were setting out by the fire. It was
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  Speaker 2: about midnight, and as I often do, I decided I
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  Speaker 2: was going to go walking, and so I got up
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  Speaker 2: and walked away from the fire and down this basically
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  Speaker 2: a one lane road. And this young man said, miss Arla,
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  Speaker 2: miss arla, can I go with you? And I said, well, sure,
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  Speaker 2: come on. He had told me during the day, we
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  Speaker 2: had talked about it, and he wasn't for sure what
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  Speaker 2: they were, and he didn't know if they would hurt
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  Speaker 2: you or whatever, but he was afraid and because he
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  Speaker 2: didn't know. And so we're going down the road, we
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  Speaker 2: hear heavy bipedal footsteps coming through the woods, you know,
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  Speaker 2: alongside us, inside the tree line. And the tree line
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  Speaker 2: consisted of pine and cedar and some other things, so
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty thick. You know, you couldn't readily see
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  Speaker 2: into it, but you could certainly hear that coming. And
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  Speaker 2: it got very close, I don't know, maybe fifteen feet
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  Speaker 2: from us inside the tree line. There were some large
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  Speaker 2: cedars and things there. And we stopped and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was just listening. I was getting ready to do
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  Speaker 2: my greeting that I do, which is just high guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or guys or whatever, and he grabbed a
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  Speaker 2: hold of my arm and I looked at it at
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  Speaker 2: him and I said or He said, are you afraid?
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  Speaker 2: And I said no, I'm not afraid. I said, are
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  Speaker 2: you afraid? And he grabbed my arm with his other hand.
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  Speaker 2: He said yes, And I don't know what it's going
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  Speaker 2: to do to me. And so I tried to talk
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  Speaker 2: to him and he was just too afraid. So I said,
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  Speaker 2: let's just go back to the fire, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: we get back to the fire. If someone takes a
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  Speaker 2: report of that encounter, mine's going to be. I got
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  Speaker 2: up from the fire, walked down the road, heard heavy
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  Speaker 2: footsteps inside the tree line. We stopped and it was there.
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  Speaker 2: I could tell you know it was there. And that's
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  Speaker 2: that's mine is is. We walked down the road, got
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  Speaker 2: down there, and I didn't know what that thing was
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  Speaker 2: gonna do to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's completely normal. There's it goes with a lot of things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ey wouldness accounts of many things can be
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  Speaker 1: two different things. Two people can see the same act
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  Speaker 1: of violence and had two different angles and see it differently.
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  Speaker 1: People can also be taking like psychedelics together and have
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  Speaker 1: a shared experience and one person will see Noah, and
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  Speaker 1: another person will see Jesus. Then the third person will
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  Speaker 1: see the devil or something. It kind of like your
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  Speaker 1: mind is, you're like, what you feel is a reflection
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  Speaker 1: of your reality. And that is so telling, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: so telling, Arla, about ideo nature of reality and who
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  Speaker 1: you are? Like people always think that they want to
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  Speaker 1: change the world. They want to go outside of it
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  Speaker 1: so it's more comfortable for them instead of being comfortable
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  Speaker 1: within and putting that out.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with all that tie dying DreamCatcher stuff, I thought
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  Speaker 1: you might understand what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Actually I do. Cool, But you know, it is what
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  Speaker 2: her belief about something that is that creates that experience.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't afraid of all at all. There was no
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  Speaker 2: fear in me. But he had already expressed during the
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  Speaker 2: day that he was afraid he didn't know, And so
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  Speaker 2: when we took off down that road and we heard
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  Speaker 2: those first footsteps, that fear kicked in on him, right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've through the years, over the last
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  Speaker 2: sixteen years, I've been from coast to coast and in
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  Speaker 2: British Columbia, and I packed and primitive camped all over.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what about Mexico. That's where I'm now. I'm down
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  Speaker 1: here in Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: No, I hadn't been there yet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a big foot researcher that's been
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  Speaker 1: or someone who's an experiencer. We're getting dog men possibly
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  Speaker 1: down here. Uts, we're getting some of them, but now
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  Speaker 1: I haven't so far heard of any in Spanish bacle adulte,
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  Speaker 1: so big big foot I have. I haven't heard a thing,
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  Speaker 1: not yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would suspect that they would be there,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so Tom Tom said.
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  Speaker 1: They would be Tom said, trust me, they're there, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty much everywhere.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Which is our point. Yes, but it is so dense.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm right here in the I'm on a Yucatan peninsula,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: so I'm here in the jungle rainforest, and it's so dense.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen I mean, you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: can't see ten feet in front of you. It's just impossible. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it's like that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's here too. I am in southeastern Oklahoma. So, uh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: this is a what people call hotspot of activity. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's interesting because down in the commu issues, I have
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: heard locals say they are more Bigfoot there than there
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: are people you know, yeah, and that you know pretty
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: much stands true. We have a Bigfoot museum here in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma down by Clayton, down in uh that area, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that you know come
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: in and talk about out uh seeing them. You know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I've seen them down there. I've been with groups of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: people who have had things happening. So they're there whether
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you see them or not. And they've always been there.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to say, well, I'm never going
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to camp again because they're out there. If you've been
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: camping and they haven't bothered you up to now, I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even be concerned about them doing that, you know.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So you said Clayton, Oklahoma is what you said?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's cool.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: That misunderstand you. Did you say Clayton, Oklahoma.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Clayton steel a y t O N.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: The McGee Yeah, so the McGee Creek National Scenic State Recreation,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: roberts Kve State Park and U are so I kind
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of I love.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Kindly as she willed that. So, uh, yeah, a lot
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of stuff goes on there.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Thinking about going to.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: But then I've been in British Columbia. I've been in.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I love I love maps. I love maps, and you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Know, so, like I said, I've camped and backpacked and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: heightd and primitive camp. Most of my camping has been
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: primitive camping. And I've camped alone with my dog in
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: several places just because you know, I've always loved to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: do that. So but yeah, there and because.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Of you, the way grandmother was teaching you and taught
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to you, you never had any type of like you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: apprehension about doing those kind of things.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: No, not ever, not from anything. I've even had experiences
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: with dog Man in Kentucky and it wasn't threatening at all.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Uh So, like I said, I don't I don't have
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: any fear. I didn't. You know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Up would you put that on some of that through
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the internet lines and stick it into my body because
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that the gentleman you were talking about
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that would be my account. I'd be like, I'm a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: scaredy proper. Everyone knows that. I'm not afraid to say
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that I don't care because I don't know what that is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a former military that if you give me my
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: ammunition and my you know, tell me how to what
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I got to do, I'm Okay, I'll survive. But when
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it comes to something that is mysterious, fear a lot
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: of times is the unknowing. Yes. Now, if you said la,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you said to me, Tom, just sit here, they're coming.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I promise you're going to be okay, I would trust you,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be honest with you. I would be
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: afraid until I worked, uh, until I faced it, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: then through time I think I'd be okay. There's a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: part of it that really wants to meet them. Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's not set.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know who Rick Taylor is. He's somebody
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I've known for several years. He was in a Flash
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of Beauty, a paranormal Bigfoot. Of course I was too,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: but he talks about an encounter he had with me,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and he, you know, at one point they asked him
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to step away from me, and he wasn't really sure
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: he wanted to do that at that point because I
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: was basically his security, but awesome security for a lot
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: of people in the woods. I mean my Paunka Kyawa friend.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: He's like six six or six seven, and when I started,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you know, working with him and talking with him, he
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: was still in that you know, space of not really
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: understanding what was going on. He had been taught that
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: they were a dark energy and so he wasn't.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Because maybe, I'm sorry, is that because of maybe some
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: type of church upbringing the dark energy stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was church. It was his I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: think his grandfather who told him that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: You got to get that from somewhere.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so a lot of things changed for Native
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: people through the years about their stories and you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: different things. But we were out one night, he and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I and another friend, uh, and we were sitting there
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and there were a couple of young ones that were
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: watching us, and you know, and then there was a
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: larger one that came around, and that's the one that
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: unnerved him. And but you know, the the little ones
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: were watching us. We had been drumming and singing and
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you know, just talking and they you would see them
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: pop up and there was a big log up there
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and they were down behind that. Well. He was going
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to play my drum, and so he had leather gloves on.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: This was in the winter. He took them off and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: laid them beside him where he was sitting on the ground,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: kind of to his back, and he played the drum
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: and uh, we just talked and you know, continue to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: watch kind of what was going on. And we got
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: up to leave, and none of us had brought a flashlight.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: We came in before it was dark, had no idea
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: where were going to stay that long. But he had
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a little pen light thing that had a red light
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: on it, and so he was down shining it so
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: we could walk out. He went to get his gloves
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and there was only one. He looked all around, could
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: not find the other one. There was only one. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: we got out of there and we got up to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: my vehicle was an expedition, and the friend and I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: were in the front seat, and he had been setting
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in the back on the passenger side. And when we
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: walked up on the side of my door are two
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: big hand prints on the passenger behind the driver's side
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of my door, just two big handprints there, and I went, oh, wow,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: look at this. Of course, he comes around there and
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: he looks at it and he's going like wow, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: then he goes back around. He gets back in. We're
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: getting ready to leave, and he looks over and in
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that passenger seat is the other glove. Now he had
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: both gloves because he had him on his hands and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Michael car doors were locked, right, i'd so it was
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: like they were just missing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I might be jumping the shark, and it's okay if
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I do jump the shark. I think sometimes Arla, what
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: what are they? What are they?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they're they're ancient. They are a people as we
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: see things. They from everything I've been told, they were
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: put here to help him in humanity. They chose to
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: be here. They came from the stars and they chose
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to be here. Now, what I've been told about them
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is that, uh, there are those who are considered an ancients,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and those are uh, primarily I guess you would call
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: them like the medicine people. And then there are those
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: who mated with humans at the time. And then there
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: are those that chose not to mate with humans. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: so you've got those that some people say look more
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: primitive mm, and then you have those who have more
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: human features, and then you have, of course the ancients.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: When I was little, my grandmother told me about the teachers, uh,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: some of the ancient teachers that would come to humans
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and uh help them and teach them and guide them.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of people look at it as a spirit guide, uh,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: but they're their flesh and blood too, you know, like
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: we are, but they do things outside what humanity thinks
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: as flesh and blood is able. But the truth is
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: we're able to do those things too. We have just
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: forgotten half.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So you're talking, you're talking like me. I come from
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a basically more of an Eastern mysticism side of things,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, somewhere between Jesus and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Eastern mysticism. I'm not a Christian or any of that.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I just I'm just a curious being, you know, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I want to know as much as I can. My
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: question is is like, like I enjoy like helping people, Okay,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and I enjoy helping my daughter or seeing a man
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: on the street he needs help. I enjoy helping them,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But I don't why would they choose to help and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: for what purpose? Like is it because they it's it's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like they want to pass knowledge or
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: they want to to remind us of what we could be,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: or what is it that they're.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Doing all of those?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad. I'm glad I didn't did a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: big swing and a miss there.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know they are so excuse me. Native stories
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: about why they're here, and I've heard elders say that
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: they are here to help us live in a better way,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and uh, they will work with us and teach us. Yes,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: they love this earth, they love this physical earth. And
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: uh no one put them here or manufactured them or
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: anything else. They came here, you know, by choice. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: with Kashima, that is who came uh to me as
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: my teacher.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Your teacher's name is Kashima Hashimasha Kashima, Ah, I said, Ku,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: didn't you correct me? And it's sound like it was
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: haw I said, And you're let No, it's called all right,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: we got we'll get there. Nothing wrong with being wrong,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that's for sure.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of funny. When I first came into this,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't know there was a Bigfoot research group of people.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: And when someone told me that, I said, oh, you're
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: teasing me. There's nobody that's out there trying to prove
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that they exist. Well, I found out really quickly that
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: there was, and I just shared my experiences, which ruffled
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of feathers, evidently. And you know, the funny
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: thing with Tom and I, we met in the very
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: beginning of my being a part of this, and it
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: was just hilarious. What links people would go to to
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: make fun of us. One group gave him the name
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: of the Pope of Bigfoot and I was the Immaculate
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Mother of Wu. So they were trying.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: To I'm glad you laughing us.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And we thought it was pretty cool.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious. It's even better that you laughed back. It's like, oh, really, well,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: How do you think the power of negativity? The wind
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of the power negativity is to laugh in the face. Uh,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to laugh into the abyss when the abyss looks at
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you is it's it's a hard thing to do for
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: people who are very connected to the Dore ego. But
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: when you just like, oh sure, that's what I am. Okay,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: what can they do?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: You know? It was funny and uh. Tom had a
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: conference in twenty twelve at Richland, Washington, and I was
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: out there to speak and a girlfriend and I had
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: gone down for breakfast. And I don't know if you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the name's Tom Powell and guy words. Tom is an author.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: If you're in the Bigfoot world, most likely you've heard
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of Tom. But anyway, she and I had walked down
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: to eat breakfast before the conference, started, and Tom hollered
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and he said, hey, girls are they y'all come over
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: here and eat breakfast with us. So we went off
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: there and sat down and Tom said, well, how are
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: you doing now, Arla? You know, he knew about all
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the stuff going on, and it just come out of
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: my beal. I said, well, Tom, you know I'm upset,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and he said, well what are you upset about? And
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: this group had labeled Tom and I as kooks, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: so I told Tom, I said, you know, there were
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: some people that called me a coke and I am
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: not a coke. I'm a cock at. He started laughing
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: and he said, you got to tell that story.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That that it's super important, and it's always important. This
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: is not just for Arlen and myself, this is for everybody.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what people call you, it matters what
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you respond to.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. You know. So I was never taught either
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to measure myself by what someone else said. I was
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: taught to measure myself by myself and I know where
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I have to be, and that's to be in respect.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, for them to say that, it's just like, well,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you know that's what they think. That's their perception and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: they can have that if they want to. It doesn't
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: affect me unless I let it affect me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Damn right, dude, Now, if only everybody in the world
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: will remembered that, like right now and then do that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: right now, there would be so much better people. I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: want this place to be Nirvana. Well, look at yourself,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and fix yourself. You know you're you're always
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: watching TV. Go outside here, you're overweight, go outside, Stop
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: being junk. Your diet is everything, guys, it's everything. If
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you fix these things, the root problems, then you start
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: loving more. And if everyone did that, it would be instantaneous.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. It's hard to do though. It's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: not without work. You know, you have bad days too,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: don't Jarla grumpy days?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I have good days and then I have days
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that are not as good.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I wish.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That's kind of how I look at it. You know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say, oh I had a bad day,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: because it's like, oh no, I am not creating that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Great. So you're saying that the magic oka because words
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: are magic. Language is magic, and you're putting that into
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the universe and into your mind, then you're creating your
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: reality with your own thoughts, which is exactly what you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: were telling us at the beginning of the show. Yes, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I love that there's a through line.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Well, there was something that happened with
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Kashima and I and I had never really talked a
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: lot about it, and this is several years ago, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I had talked about it in uh supposedly a private
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: group and some of those who followed me around from
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: group to group to for us. Yes, I just decided
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I was helping do a podcast at that time, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: this is like twenty eleven, and I decided that I
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: was just gonna go ahead and tell what happened on
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: our show.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: And it was like, oh my gosh, she has given
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: us stuff to run with, you know, And I thought, well,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I just told what happened.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And what happened was Kushima and I had been walking,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and yes, I see him sometimes in the physical flesh
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and blood and sometimes I don't. But that particular day,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: we were walking and I was asking him some questions
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: about how they just now you see them and now
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: you don't, how they just disappear. And as we were walking,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: there was a flock of turkeys that were coming towards
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: us through a clearing, and they got wind of us,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and their heads went up and they were listening, and
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: then as we got closer they took off. Well, we
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: walked on by that area, and then when we were
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: coming back, the turkeys were filtering back in, and so
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I said to him, can you hide me? I mean,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: it was like a lot of things that just slipped out.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Can you hide me? And immediately I was not able
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to be seen by the turkeys. We had continued to walk.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: At that point, I was feeling of myself when I
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: realized that that turkey could not see me, and we
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: were probably fifteen feet or so from this wild turk.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: He had no clue that we were there. I felt
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: completely normal as far as feeling my body how I felt.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: The only thing different is my feet weren't touching the ground,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: so you.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Could see your hands that were you looking at your hands?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Or yes, I could see him. I can see everything
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: around me. I can see that turkey. I'm like, oh
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: my gosh, that turkey's right there. I can at that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: far and you know, looking at that turkey, and he
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: has no clue. None of the turkeys had a clue
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that we were there, and that's how I knew that
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I could not be seen.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: So you know that is that is did he was there?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Anything that happened till then was there? Did you notice
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a change in the environment, was there something said, something done?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Or The only reason you recognize it is because the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: turkeys didn't scatter.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I didn't feel any different. And when I
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: touched my body it felt the same, okay. And he
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: looked the same. Everything around me looked the same.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Could you describe what he looks like? What he looks like,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: what your what your teacher looks like?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I actually have a drawing that a guy
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: who does portraits and stuff from people's uh encounters drew
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: for me. He's somewhere between eight nine feet tall, I
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: don't know exactly. He has a very human looking face.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: He also has scratched tattoos across his nose. He has
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: tattoos scratch, scratch, scratched in okay, okay, with earth pigments
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: or ashells or different things. And he has a tattoo
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: on here right about here, and it is a moon
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: and a star. And you know he's he like I said,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: he's very human looking. How I met him was I
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: had been helping to support the International Council of Thirteen
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Indigenous Grandmothers. Now, these were indigenous grandmothers from around the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: world who had helped their people or people in general,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: who taught old, old sacred ways. There were grandmothers from
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Brazil who worked with evol ayahuasca. There was a grandmother Bernadette,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: who was from Africa that had worked with eboga. There
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: was a grandmother from Wahaca, Mexico from me and she
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: worked with the Santos Ninos, which are the mushrooms, Okay.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: And there are others who worked with different plants and things,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: and so anyway I was supporting them. I was going
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: to be able to go to a gathering in Lincoln City, Oregon.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Uh the thirteen of them were going to be there,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: those from Nepal, from Tebette, from the Amazon, from all
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: around Alaska here in the United States. And I was
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: so excited to be able to go. So seven days
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: out I started doing a what I would call a
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: prayer ceremony. And I was going out early in the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: morning and doing my prayers, and then I would go
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: back out of evening and do my prayers. And during
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that time I was told that when I went out there,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: there would be a door opened to me, and that
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I would make the choice as to whether or not
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to walk through the door. Now I had no idea
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: what that door was, what I'd be walking through, or
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: anything else. But during the time that we were out there,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: the grandmothers would each day a couple of them would
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: teach and do ceremony of the morning, and then we
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: would have more of the evening. Now we were on
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: the beach at Lincoln City in a huge circle with
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: a fire, and they were teaching. Well, those grandmothers from
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Nepal and Tibet brought things that I had never seen before.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I was just amazed at them, and I remembered that
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I had been told at door was going to open
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: to me, and it just felt like it was going
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: to open at that night, and so I, you know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of in my mind thinking about it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And that night, after the grandmothers were through, we were
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: having I think there was like four hundred people there
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: all out on the beach in the sand, in this
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: huge circle, and we were all in communion and in
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: prayer and meditation and At that point, I saw the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: door and it was open, and I heard again, this
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: is your choice to walk through the door. Well, in
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: my heart, I knew I was supposed to walk through
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: that door, and so I just said the spirit, I
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: will walk through the door, not knowing what I was
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: going to be walking through, except what they told me
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: was people will ask you, how can you work with
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: that energy? That people would be questioning me about what
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: it was that I would be doing when I walked
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: through that door. So I just left it and knew
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that I'd made the right decision. So I get home
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and my sister in law calls and she wants to
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: hear about the whole week, you know what we did.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: So we go out to eat, and we go to
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: this little restaurant to eat, and they have these papers
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: that tells what's going on in the community. Well, I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: picked one up, but I didn't read it. I took
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: it home and laid it down, and that night, about
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, about three o'clock, probably, I was woke
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: up by the most horrible smell I had ever smelled. Now,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I'd never smelled that growing up or at any time
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: knowing the Bigfoot people. I'd never smelled that smell. Okay,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: but and at that point, smelling that I didn't attach
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: it to them. I thought my bull mask stuff was sick,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and so I got up. I went in and checked
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: on her. She was all right, and I smelled it
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: is like it's overpowering. I opened the front door, I
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: don't see anything, and so I'm just setting there, going
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: what is this? What is this smell? And then it
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: was gone and I went back to bed. So the
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: next day I picked up the little paper and was
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: looking through it and there was a footprint and an
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: article about someone finding this print down on the river
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: not too far from where I live, and I was
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: just like, wow, that's cool. Well, my girlfriend called and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I said, I got this paper. It's so cool. It
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: had this footprint in it. And then I went, you know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you about this smell last night.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It was horrible. And she started laughing and she said
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: footprint smell and I'm like what and she said bigfoot.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I said, no, that wasn't bigfoot. L last night that
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: smelled that that wasn't them, and she said, I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: it might have been. So I just left it. That night,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I got the smell again it wasn't as bad, but
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: then it clicked in my mind, Yes, that's what this is.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: This is synchronicity of I'm smelling themn. You know. I'd
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: heard people talk about it, but it wasn't anything I
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: had experienced, and so I just I left it. And
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: so the next Tuesday, I think it was, I was
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: setting out in the back and my little glider and
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I was just in meditation and prayer and I had
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: my eyes closed and I heard someone walk up and
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: they stopped, and I just had this feeling of reverence
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: over me. I had no clue what had walked up,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: but when I opened my eyes and looked at him,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: he said, I am Kashima, and that's all he said.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I dropped my head, closed my eyes, and he turned
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: around and walked off. So I knew at that point
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: this was what I would be doing and that people
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: would wonder how I could work with that energy, which
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: is what I was told before.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Is it spelled with a K or with a C.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's k A s h I m a ya.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Now a lot of people take that. I think there's
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: a Japanese word for that, and so that was.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: My first, Uh, that sounds like a Japanese word.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: But but it's it's not it is it's older than that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I imagine, of course, of course.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: So but you know that was my beginning. At that point,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I had to deal with the thought that I had
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: been taught all my life you don't talk about them
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: in public, and here you're asking me to do this. Now,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not a young woman.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: You began sharing what I knew about them.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: So that's what they wanted you to do, is to share.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it wasn't so much that I was teaching
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: people about them. I was, in a sense, but I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: was also sharing things that other people were experiencing and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: couldn't talk about it. There wasn't at that time, there
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't many places you could talk to anybody about this.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: If you posted something like this in a group, the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: piranhas came out, you know, So.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: That it's that fear we're talking about. It's the fear
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: of the unknown, the crabs in the bucket, the well,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: that's not my experience, therefore you're wrong. Which I've run
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: into people who clearly think that way, and I let
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: them speak their peace.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And then there's people who are somewhere is I'm kind
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: of between the two worlds a little bit because I've
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: heard both sides of the argument.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm open to all of it. How do
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: we if you don't know something, how is it possible
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that you just shut down a certain aspect of information
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that could be open to you by chance? You just
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: go no, I'm not going to hear that. That makes
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: no sense to me.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, there's one thing I say when I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: speak at a confront or gathering is you don't have
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to believe anything I say. You won't affect me one
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: way or another if you don't believe me. But what
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I would ask of you is, don't just throw it away.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: File it away somewhere, and then if someone has an experience,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: or you have one, or someone that you know and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: trust has something happened, then you've got a reference you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: can go back and say, Now, wait a minute, I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: heard this and so, and that was what I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: supposed to do, was to help people to get past
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: their fear to open up. And for years of working
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: with people, you know, I always told them, shift your paradigm,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: open your mind, open your heart, and look at this
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in a totally different way. It's hard to it is,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I under I understand that to some eat stand.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: But people who have these beliefs that are not open
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: to anything else but what they believe, if something happens
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: to make them question a belief, they begin to ask themselves, well,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: what else is there in my life that I believe?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: That's not that you know what it means if you.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Think about it though too, on a on a different
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: just a different tangent slightly is that even the the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: just the the government, the governmental agencies, one way or another,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: no matter what side of the stupid fence you fall on,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: or like me, I just stand on the fence perpetually
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and look at everyone fight. But you realize that there
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: is a disintegration of these institutions that we thought were there.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: They're never there to begin with. It's all a construinduction
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: of the mind. And it's just so if you get
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do is attach what the world
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: where people are opening their minds to that, you know,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of bad people in the world
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of bad things who claim to be
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: good and stand in front of the microphone with the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: flag behind him. If that is now eroding through COVID
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: and other things that they lied to us about. Now,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: if your mind can now be open to that, then
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: you should also consider that maybe there's other things you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: don't know about. Maybe people like Arla or Tom Contrell,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Barbara Hartman, there's another one who's relatively new to it,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: who are who are kind of saying, look, this is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: not maybe what you think it is. Maybe you can like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: how would you? I love your avenue of approach, And
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's the avenue I find best because I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: come through the PTSD military anxiety depression route where opening
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: your heart and taking a step back and realizing that
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: what you thought you believed didn't made me open my
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: heart even more and then people like yourself became easy
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: or easier to talk to. So what is the what
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: do you think is the best method in opening people's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: minds to something like this?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean media had a big part in this,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what. I think that was the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: big kicker that kicked all this off. And I never
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: watched an episode of it. There were things done that
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: we're not compatible with how I want to live my life,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: and so I just I never watched it. You know,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: but it was finding Bigfoot. And what that did was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: put that out there in your living room for you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: to begin to think about.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Right, whether good or bad.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: It was a key I got you. I never watched you.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I lived in Europe. I lived in Germany for twenty years,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you don't know this show, and I'm like, oh,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I'm watching German stuff. They don't have Bigfoot channels in Germany.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it wasn't anything I wanted to watch.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of good came out
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: of that. But you know that can happen with anything,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: because good's there, you just have to be open to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: see it. And you know, so much of it was there.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: It opened people's mind. Yeah, there was a lot of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: those saying that this.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Is Yeah, you go, you sound a whole bunch. She
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: found so much. I don't know if you know her,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: but do you know who Mama bear Claw is?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Mama bear Claw? I don't think.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: She's a Native American medicine woman who talks to me
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: about the Sasquatch people like you and her interactions and you, guys,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: you should talk to her. You would be I think
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: you guys would have so much in common that would
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: be uncanny for you, like when you're but she was
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you can't do this, okay, But
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: she was like looking inside of me as we're talking,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: going you do this and this, don't you? And I go, yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: she does know what that means, don't you? And I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: go I think I do, And she goes, I know
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: you know what it means. And I'm like, but don't
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: tell nobody, okay, And I'm like, okay, so it's so cool.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: You know, yes I could if I wanted to, but
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't go looking at people,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: you know, trying.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: There's different ways to say the same message. And I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: love how you're saying you can look inside of and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: you can look inside of something bad and still find
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: a good in it. For example, just a real easy,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: it's the simple, the easiest way to explain. How do
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: you know what love is if you don't know what
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: hate is? How do you know what cold is if
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: you don't know what warm is? They both have to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: kind of simultaneously exist to know or be able to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: differentiate the one from the other. The choice. The thing
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: is that you need knowing that you know them. It's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: then in the end just a matter of choice. Do
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: you choose between hate or love? And that's and that's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: what I've been trying to tell people.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: We are we are coming into a time where that
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: is no longer such a big thing, is you know,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: we have to have that. An interesting thing about that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: word since you brought it up, Hey, I never used
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: it in my life, and my family didn't either. I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: didn't grow up hearing that word a lot, and they're
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: so I went through a period of time where I
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: would be doing something and I would say, oh, I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: hate when I do that, and you know, and I,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: you know, not even really thinking about it. And one
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: day Kashima stopped me and he said, how do you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: feel when you say that? And so I stopped, and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I was thinking I was using that word as a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: verb against myself, and so he asked me to take
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: that as a verb out of my vocabulary and not
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: to use it. Now I can talk about hate, but
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: it's not in my vocabulary as far as a verb,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: and are using it. And it's interesting if it comes up,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: it's like I get this. I can't go there, but yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: that that is something that it doesn't exist as far
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: as what I'm doing and how I'm living, no matter
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: what the situation is or anything.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: It's in the end, it's just a choice. You know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you can you can choose to listen to bad things,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: or you can choose to listen to good things. Yeah,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: choice and everything. And this is going to sound like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a really would you say, like a like a rough
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: question or a very strange question maybe, but could you
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: tell me where where where I can get it? Right?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Where Kashima is like in the moment, where where is
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: your teacher? Right now?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: He is wherever he chooses to be. Does that mean
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: he could be here in the physical Yeah, he could
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: if he chose to be. You know, they are inner dimensional,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: but we are too. We just don't access that. And
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: you know this thing with quantum energy that is coming out,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: and you know quantum physics, this quantum energy, quantum entanglement,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: these things are all readily things that they understand.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I think Ron moorehead was that was his book, right, Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: He's a good friend and years ago he was this
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: was something that he was thinking about and he was
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: writing and I was going to be at a thing
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: in Oregon. I think it was beachfoot and he said,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be there. I want you to read
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: a paper I've got and tell me what you think
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: if you think this is what they're doing or not.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: At that point, i'd never heard quantum energy.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, And so when I.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Got there, we visited and he explained, and I read
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the paper and understood, you know, the basics of what
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: that was. And I said, sure, that's exactly you know
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: there now you see them now you don't They're connecting
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: with us. And the thing with quantum entanglement now it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: is like it's an acting to everything. The star people, uh,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the Sasquatch people, many things. Understand this as it is,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: you know, and I know it is still a subject
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: that some people are having a hard time understanding. But
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Ron has done such a wonderful job of bringing this
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: out where people, you know, can understand better what this is.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: It's not some big woo woo science. It's actually a
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: science and has been around for a long time. Science
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: changes that we have today one hundred years ago is
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: not at all what people are understanding today, and it
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: will continue to do.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Jane. Yeah, like the complete strangeness or the utter blindness
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: to or the terminology of things like scientific consensus is
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: crazy to me, or the concept of trust the science.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: That's not what science is. Science says, look again and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: then again.
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  Speaker 2: You know that that was a thing in the beginning
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  Speaker 2: because people kept saying, Oh, you're not scientific, you're not
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  Speaker 2: doing this, and you're not you know, doing that, or
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  Speaker 2: you know, WU has nothing to do with science. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the truth is, if you don't study everything that is
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  Speaker 2: reported about something, if you just pick and choose what
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  Speaker 2: you want to look at, you're not going to have
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  Speaker 2: a scientific answer. Yes, you're going to have just part
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: Even even the concept of I don't know, say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the third the third law of movement or mechanics that
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  Speaker 1: the Isaac Newton written that wrote it is still WU
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  Speaker 1: to you because you actually haven't sat down and read
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  Speaker 1: the book. It's still wo to you. You don't. You
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  Speaker 1: just trust that someone else has done the work for you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or you trust that Jupiter is there, for example, until
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  Speaker 1: you've actually seen it under a telescope, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: trust that it's there. So so I want people to
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  Speaker 1: realize that concept as well. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and humanity based its existence on science, and
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  Speaker 2: you know if you go back and let's just go
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  Speaker 2: back one hundred years and if people then were shown
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  Speaker 2: science as it is today and aud it has shown,
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  Speaker 2: they would go, oh, that's we don't want to mess
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  Speaker 2: with that, you know. So it's it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one hundred years ago you would go, you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: would pick up the phone and you would say, yeah, hello, flow,
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  Speaker 1: could you please connect me to Doc Brown? Okay, and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: they would patch you through. And now you go, let
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: me see your phone. You go, oh, here and here's
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  Speaker 1: a picture in my family and this that and the other,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: and I'll go, what is it? It's it's magic. Anything
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  Speaker 1: shown to people like this is just maybe some of
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the UFO stuff. It's just maybe they're future travelers, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: But if we go back in the past for them,
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  Speaker 1: they would look at us like we're witches or something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's part of it. It's uh and
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  Speaker 1: we should, like, I think, with people just to get
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  Speaker 1: so caught up and paying their bills and you know
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  Speaker 1: these things. They just don't sit back and just enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the mere fact that you get to exists. It's interesting
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  Speaker 1: as hell, isn't it. It's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: It's this is such a wondrous world, and people will
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  Speaker 2: just shift their paradigm, open their mind and their heart.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what you see, you know. And the
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  Speaker 2: big fit people they are right there to help us
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  Speaker 2: do that and teach us things, and just by their
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  Speaker 2: nature of connecting with us, you know, we begin to
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  Speaker 2: see things and hear things differently and realize that this
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  Speaker 2: world is so much more.
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  Speaker 1: And I love your message. It makes me like, when
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  Speaker 1: you're saying what you're saying, it makes me wonder what
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  Speaker 1: the government's purpose for denying them exists, because we know
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  Speaker 1: they know, and I imagine is that if we accepted,
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  Speaker 1: or that it was publicly accepted through all of you know,
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  Speaker 1: the world that they exist, then every government would lose
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  Speaker 1: all of their legitimacy because they're going to say, look, man,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: we're interdimensional. They're going to go, no, we're not missiles
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: and rockets and stars and stripes. You know, It's like
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  Speaker 1: it changes, it changes the entire paradigm that has been
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  Speaker 1: set for us by accepting their existence.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know. One of the things that I've
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: been told about disclosure, Okay, disclosure is nothing. All disclosure
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: is going to get is that you're going to get
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: a reacted reacted reacted files that are gonna tell you
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  Speaker 2: some things that most people already know anyway. Yeah, there'll
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: probably be some other stuff in it. It is not
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  Speaker 2: gonna tell you who the Star people are, who the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Sasquatch people are, how they live their lives, or anything else.
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  Speaker 2: It's a passifier, is what all this disclosure.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Is.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to get people to say, Okay, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: bring this out and then you'll know the truth. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what is the truth?
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like trying to get the Bloodhounds sent
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  Speaker 1: off the trail, the real trail, you know, kind of like, oh,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: he crossed the creek, Like, no, it's up here, it's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: up the mountain with the shiny star at the top
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  Speaker 1: of it. Well, we don't want to go that way,
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  Speaker 1: we want to go across the creek.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's all kinds of control that people try to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: put over others. Stories are manufactured for particular reasons. One
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  Speaker 2: of the things Kashima had said years ago is humans
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: aren't in control of this, of us being recognized or
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: having full disclosure or full contact or whatever word that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: you want to put to it. Humans aren't in control
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: of that. They are They are the ones that will
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: decide how far this goes. Now, I can say that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: since I came into this A few years after I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: came into the say, a lot of it began to
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: change when finding big photocours came out and Facebook exploded
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: with bigfoot groups, and they were groups that people were
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: looking at this phenomenon in a totally different way. There
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: were groups that were safe where you could talk about
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: your encounters and things that you were doing. And I
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  Speaker 2: know so many people who are having full contact with them.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I have full contact with them. I have for seventy years,
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  Speaker 2: and you know I'm not the only one. Now. Do
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  Speaker 2: I see them every day? No, I don't. My grandmother
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  Speaker 2: taught me they are our neighbors. And sometimes you see
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: your neighbors and sometimes you don't. But you're supposed to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: have respect for your neighbors. And so my measure of
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  Speaker 2: respect of them is very great. And so if I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: see them, I see them. If I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that if I'm not out in
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: the woods that I might not say hi guys, or
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, or even talk to them. You know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: it is they are my neighbors, and you know, I
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: am going to live my life with them. I told
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  Speaker 2: them when I first started speaking out about them, if
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I did anything that was disrespectful of them, that they
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: would go away from me and that they would never
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: be around me anymore. Now, that would have broke my heart, right,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: but it was what was in my heart, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to do that. A lot of people have had, you know,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: encounters where I've been in gatherings and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Did I do it? Nope. I don't ask them to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: do anything. They do what they choose. But what I
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  Speaker 2: do is I talk with people and like I've talked tonight,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: chish your paradigm, open your heart, get outside the box
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  Speaker 2: and carry that respect with you, and you know it.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: It gives you names of people that are very close
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: friends of mine now that in the beginning, when I
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: first met them, they did that and they had things
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: going on, you know, from that time. So that measure
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  Speaker 2: of respect and opening your heart is going to take
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: you a long way to having something happen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. This is I do
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  Speaker 1: think I want to talk to you again, if that
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: would be so, if you would be so inclined to
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  Speaker 1: do so, I'd love you. I'd love to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you some more. I think we have so much more
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: to talk about. And sure, if there's any names that
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: you want to shoot my direction, I would I would
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: love to talk to them as well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this has been this.
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  Speaker 1: Has been more than incredible. Thank you so much once
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: again for coming on and talking to me, and hopefully
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I can help people see this and get that information
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: out as much as possible. Arlow, thank you so very
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: much for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome. You know. I'll be in Alabama March twenty eighth.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: The place is the Carl Elliott Regional Library in Jasper, Alabama.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Michael Cook and Greg.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: Ogles speak there, so I'm looking forward to that.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: And you had a book. Tell me about your book
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: real quick, people.
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  Speaker 2: I have My Life with the Harry people. It chronicles
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: my life part of my life with them. It has
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: funny stories of what I call Harry kids, who are
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: the juveniles and the ones that I have had close
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: contact with. And I could sit and tell story after
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  Speaker 2: story after story after story.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're gonna We're gonna go through these stories.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: But basically now I think we were laying down some
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: groundwork where people like look this is this is kind
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: of like, this is the this is the way I
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: want to tell you about these things. So are you ready?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: And we're going to have you back on that tells
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: these things so that people go, oh, now these because
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: what you did is you set the puzzle out, You
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: set it out, you put the picture on the wall.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: This is what it looks like. Now you're going to
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: show us how to put them into place. And I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: think that's I'm just trying to use some type of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: what's the word, trying to so people can conceptualize what
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I think you were doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I use that puzzle analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Analogy, thank you, that's the word I was looking for.
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  Speaker 2: A lot, because we are all puzzle pieces. Even those
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: who say in a chair and watch videos, they're a
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: part of this too.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: They're collecting the information. And then because the people who
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: sit there and watch these shows, because they are. It's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: fascinating because people don't really have these type of encounters.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Most people don't. Some people really really do, and they're
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: interested because that unknown stuff, that unknowing makes them interested.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: And now when they're out, there'll be the guy at
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: the party now with their little martini, you know, bigfoot
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: isn't a dimensional and that's that starts an interesting conversation
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: and I love it.
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  Speaker 2: So another book.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: So her book is down below. These books will be
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: in the links below. Guys, go over and get go
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: and grab them.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: And I have a children's book call Respecting the Water
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: and it's really a fun book. It's a beautiful book
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: artwork and it's really beautiful. And I am republishing another
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: children's book that's called New Friends at Indigo Run. It's
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: not back out yet, it should be in a month.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: And it's basically about a little bigfoot girl, a little
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: dog man girl, and a little boy dragon and they're
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: all different and they meet at this place called Indigo
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Run and they learn that it doesn't make any difference
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: if you look different, you can still be friends.
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  Speaker 1: You know things about dragons? Yes, oh, yes, please tell
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: me you're going to come back on the talk I have.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: I would love to know. I would love to learn
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Yes I do. I've had a dragon around too since
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: I was a little girl. Oh, and I have really
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: cold stories about interaction with them. And so you know,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: that book hopefully will be out. And I'm working on
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: another book as well now.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: And they're all links in the description below. Go and
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: support Arla because we need people out there, because you
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: have to cover these basis of property taxes and water
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: and electricity. That way she can get out there and
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: be more in touch with nature and come back to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: talk with people like myself and many many others. Arla,
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  Speaker 1: this has been fantastic. One more time, thank you so
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: very much.
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  Speaker 2: You are so welcome.
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  Speaker 1: We are the eye, we are aware.
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  Speaker 5: I love you all and you have a wonderful day.
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