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SIMON DIXON REVEALS How The Banking System Turned You Into a DEBT SLAVE · Simply Bitcoin

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I have to take people to a dark place because.
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No, let's do it. Once you know how the system
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works, you know how to win. And so here's how we win.
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We're not going to fix the system, but what we can do is.
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Absolutely. Commercial banks, they create,
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you know, dollars, pounds, euros every time they issue a loan.
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And in order to issue more loans, their first goal is to
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turn every single individual into a collateralized debt
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obligation. By getting them addicted to
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debt, either via mortgages, via credit cards, via student loans,
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via inflation that doesn't increase at the same rate of
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their wages, you effectively turn every individual into a
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debt slave. They socialize the losses across
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all the individuals of a nation, and they privatize the games.
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Your vote doesn't matter because they have access to the deep
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state. And so once you understand this,
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you realize it's a big club and you're not invited.
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And we're not in it. Yeah.
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Welcome to another episode of Simply Bitcoin.
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Irli. Haven't done one in a while, but
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I have the one and only legendary Simon Dixon.
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Thank you for thank you so much for joining me.
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Pleasure. Thanks for having me again.
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What are we going to be talking about today?
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Well, I mean, Simon, this is the first episode I've I've I've
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ever had with you personally. And I've just been a huge fan of
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all the content that you've done for, you know, not only your
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channel, but a lot of the other content creators in the space.
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And I think your view on things, especially because of how much
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time you've been in the industry, Simon, are very
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unique. And I think it's people that I,
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I think it's important that people pay attention to that
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specifically. So you've coined the term, you
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know, financial industrial complex, which kind of reminds
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me of the military industrial complex.
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And you, you're making the case that basically that is what we
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are up against. So, you know, for our viewers,
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what are you talking about when you say that?
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Yeah, so many people, I've spent probably the last 25 years of my
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life directly working in the financial industrial complex,
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fighting the financial industrial complex from both a
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political business and investing level as an activist investor.
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And that kind of drove me to Bitcoin and also academically,
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you know, teaching and and learning what this concept of a
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financial industrial complex is. And really it has captured all
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western governments. It has Co opted governments that
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effectively managed to keep their resources and build
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sovereign wealth funds. And it cooperates with sovereign
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governments like the Chinese Communist Party, which
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effectively is a government where no one is above it within
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their, you know, within their ecosystem.
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And then you've got the other extreme, which is somewhere like
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America or UK, where the government are fully subordinate
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to this financial industrial complex.
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So what does it consist of? Well, at the base layer, it is
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the creators of Fiat currency, which is the commercial banks.
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And those commercial banks, they create, you know, dollars,
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pounds, EUR every time they issue a loan.
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And in order to issue more loans, their first goal is to
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turn every single individual into a collateralized debt
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obligation. And that means that by getting
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them addicted to debt, either via mortgages, via credit cards,
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via student loans, via inflation that doesn't increase at the
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same rate of their wages, you effectively turn every
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individual into a debt slave. Now, some people take that debt
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and they purchase assets and they're able to beat the
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inflation. Most people take that debt and
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they consume and they end up in an ever increasing cycle of
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debt. And even as they succeed, as
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they become higher and higher up in a corporate ladder, then they
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end up with a better house on debt, or a better car on debt,
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or rolling over debt to purchase assets and it's just effectively
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a never ending cycle of debt. Now some people take that debt
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and they build a company and that company basically then gets
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Co opted by a cycle of the financial industrial complex.
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Initially it may be venture capital where you give away some
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of the ownership of your company to investors.
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Then maybe your company succeeds a little bit further and you get
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access to the private equity or the private credit markets.
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But the ultimate goal is to turn you into a Wall Street vehicle
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and Wall Street rapper by taking you public.
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And then once you're public, as you go further and further up
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the ladder, they try and load you up with bonds and corporate
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debt and junk bonds and various other things.
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All of them make you subordinate to a governance structure where
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you need more and more capital to grow.
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As you grow further and further, you then need to be included in
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the index funds. And as you go further and
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further up their cycle, you realize that it's the index
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funds and the investment banks and the bond market that
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controls you, your board, your governance structure and your
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mission. And so this is through the
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investment banking sector, the private equity sector, and you
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know, the, the, the venture capital sector.
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Then what happens is effectively they need a mechanism for
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investing, but they don't want to use their own money.
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They can create money through their private, you know, through
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the retail banks, but then they also want to manage people's
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money. And so they create insurance
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products, they create pension products, they create endowment
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funds where they can influence the university education system,
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they can influence the state governments.
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But effectively they manage these large pools of capital
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that gives them trillions of dollars that they can then
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allocate and dictate the flow of capital via the asset management
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industry. Finally, when they take bets
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with your money and when they create money, and they need the
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whole system to be guaranteed because the entire economy is
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subordinate to this structure. And so they have a central
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banking system. And within the central banking
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system, they effectively, every time things go wrong, they
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socialize the losses across all the individuals of a nation and
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they privatize the gains. Then they need to control the
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government. And so when the government
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effectively borrows money, they want to be the lender of the
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money and they also want to be the recipient of the money
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within their portfolio. And so we have these lobbies
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which effectively rent the Senate, the Congress, in order
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to control the politicians and direct the flow of money
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printing into their corporate entities that they own shares
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of. And then finally, they need
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wars, because what happens is once the individuals are all in
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debt and the companies are all subordinate to your debt and
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your debt capital markets and equity capital markets, and the
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government is subordinate to your debt, you need mechanisms
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for making sure that that debt continually rolls over forever
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in a Ponzi scheme because there's never enough debt to pay
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off all the money and the currency actually is debt.
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And so you need that to continue.
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And so the mechanism for doing that is effectively the military
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industrial complex, a group of military companies that create
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war. And what they do is they have
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underneath them access to intelligent agencies in the deep
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state and those deep state intelligence agencies are able
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to bribe judicial branch so they can manipulate the law in their
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favour even when they get it wrong.
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And effectively at the very top of this, they install board
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seats into all public companies. They have shares in virtually
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everything. They become the number one
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shareholders via ETFs and managing the pension money.
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And effectively, they control every aspect of government,
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every aspect of corporate, every individual that's in debt.
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And whenever it goes wrong, they socialize the losses and
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privatize the gains until eventually they dump all the
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debt on the government and the people.
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And then they need to create an inflationary cycle, reset the
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empire and go find a new world order in order to do the cycle
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again. You know, they did this with the
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Dutch. They did this with the British,
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they've now done it with the Americans, and now we're looking
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at a transition into the next structure of the financial
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industrial complex. So what do they have to do?
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They don't have to Co opt every country.
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So they partner with any country that keeps their resources and
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they get sovereign wealth funds and the ones where they can
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destroy all their resources, privatize it, securitize it,
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tokenize it, burden them with debt, destroy their currencies
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through currency wars. They effectively make their
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central banks a member of the central banks of central banks,
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which is the Bank for International Settlements.
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They burden them with that through the International
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Monetary Fund, and then they bail them out through the World
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Bank. And this is the financial
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industrial complex. Absolutely.
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Fascinating. And so many things that I would
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think are not interconnected or all interconnected.
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And I was just connecting the dots while you were talking
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about that. And it's true, BlackRock and
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Vanguard do own a big portion of every Fortune 500 company.
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It's true that essentially, you know, the Federal Reserve
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essentially bails out United States government every every so
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often. It's true that they we we see
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this trend of continuous wars and there's really no good
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explanation for it until, you know, you laid out what you laid
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out. We had what I think what really
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opened my eyes, Simon, was we had this so-called outsider that
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ran on the platform of ending the wars in the Middle East.
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You know, he he really moved the Overton window in his famous
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debate back in 2016 where he said he called out the Iraq war,
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which is something that you're not supposed to do, survived an
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assassination attempt, you know, came up with his cabinet that
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was bipartisan. He had RFK Junior, he had Tulsi
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Gabbard, and then within a year, within one year, he essentially
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transformed into George W Bush 2 point O.
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And then once again, the United States finds itself in another
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war in the Middle East. So, and Simon, please, you know,
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correct me if, if you think I'm wrong here, but it almost feels
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as if elections really don't have consequence.
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And it, it almost feels like it is not a, a country, you know,
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by the people, for the people. I think as long as there's a
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central bank in place, it's going to be a country by the
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government for the benefit of the government.
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What is your take on that? Yeah, it's one step further.
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And this is where people really get confused because I'll call
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it the FIC now, rather than the financial industrial complex.
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So the FIC also fund all the universities and the education.
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So they turn doctors into drug dealers, they turn economists
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into debt dealers. And they basically Co opted all
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of the economic models that came from previous literatures.
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And they kind of said, you know, the world is either socialist,
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communist, capitalist or fascist and the Wall Street controls
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them all. Also, all of them, they
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engineered and created them through wars, but it's a forced
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illusion and so people look at these different models and they
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think it's the government. The government has two functions
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in a system that's fully captured by FIC.
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The first function is they are a Piggy Bank.
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Their job is to create a new narrative of how the money gets
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from the money printer or any budget that they benefit through
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the bond market, through the government there over to the
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corporate sector. And they just need to say
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whatever. If you're on the left, you say
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social programs, who manages those social programs?
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The big insurance companies and the FIC.
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And then if you're on the right, you say, oh, let's create a
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deregulated environment. And and then in that deregulated
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environment, you reallocate all the money over to favourable
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terms for the FIC. And so the fit goes on in M and
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a spree they're able to monopolize further.
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Miraculously, they pretend they're trying to like be
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conservative and pay down the debt.
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But because the dollar is debt, because money is debt, you can't
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pay it down. And so you have these little
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gains like the Department of Government efficiency where they
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pretend they're going to pay down the debt.
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And what do they end up doing? They actually end up just giving
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all the data to their portfolio companies like Palantir because
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they control the surveillance state and the technical
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industrial complex, the Dick, and they put budgets from the
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Pentagon over to the military industrial complex, the Mick,
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and they own shares in all those companies.
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And so the government is a Piggy Bank for the financial
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industrial complex. They got.
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They receive all the yield on the bonds, they manage all of
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your money and they control the government's.
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The government also performs a second function, which is that,
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well, a couple of functions. 1 is that they create an illusion
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that they, the, the budget that they need is from your tax.
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Tax is actually just a way of taking money out of the set the
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system and dampening inflation. And so if you want to control
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the inflation to a certain degree, you need to find new
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ways of taxing people and that takes money out of the system to
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dampen some of the inflation. But they never use it to balance
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their budget because it's particularly in America, the,
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the, the, you know, the dollar is the debt, the currency is the
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debt. And the largest export of the
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fake is debt. And that's why, you know, you
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got up to almost 40 trillion in the case of America.
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The third thing they do is they create a narrative where people
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think they have a democracy and they get a say in that their
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vote matters. Your vote doesn't matter because
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they have access to the deep state and the deep state
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engineers and controls the media and the media creates A
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strategic tension of left and right.
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And so they just go ping pong left to right and throughout
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that, and they're a battering ram.
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Their job is just to create a narrative.
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And each time they create a narrative in a new election, you
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get pissed off and think you need to regime change.
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And so you regime change and you either go further to the left,
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further to the right, and you keep going and you look and you
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blame the politician. They're so stupid, they're
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incompetent. Most of them are highly
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competent that you just don't know who they work for.
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They work for their lobbies. And so whenever I look at a
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politician, I just go down the list of who their largest
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funders are and I predict what I think the agenda is going to be.
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So the government are a battering ram, a mechanism for
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damping inflation through tax, and a Piggy Bank.
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Their job for the FIG is to dump all the debt on the people and
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make sure that that money goes into propping up their share
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prices until they control the most of the assets.
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And so governments are irrelevant other than performing
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that function for the FIG and people.
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People get very confused by that.
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Yeah, no. And it and it's extremely
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confusing, Simon, to to say the least.
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And I, I, you know, I really, you know, for me, I even, you
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know, and I've been in Bitcoin for a decade, but I even went
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fell for the, for the, you know, because I saw it, you know, you,
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the questionable 2020 election and then, you know, Trump, the
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assassination attempt, the epic picture of saying him fight,
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fight, fight, fight, fight. So I even fell into the whole,
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you know, left and right kind of debate.
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But what I've come to realize this year, and I think you've,
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you've really had your, your, your finger on the pulse on this
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for a very, very long time now, is the elections are
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inconsequential. There is no left and right.
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I completely agree with you in terms of the legacy media being
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used as a tool to divide and conquer.
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Right. When the left is in power, the
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right wing media is like, it's the left fault.
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When the, when you know, when the right is in power, the left
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wing media goes and it's the right, the right's fault, the
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pendulum swing, so to speak. But that, that mechanism that
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you just described continues, you know, continues doing what
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it's doing. Why do you think not enough
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people have woken up to this reality?
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Because for me, it was really this year that I, I really woke
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up to it. Like I, I didn't have a lot of
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faith in elections before. I think as a Bitcoiner, you,
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you, you inherently, you know, believe that, you know, the
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solution to this is to opt out, putting your Bitcoin into self
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custody. That's really the most powerful
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vote you can make. But do you think that the
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Overton window is shifting enough?
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Do you think that people are finally coming to to that
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realization? Because from what I'm seeing is
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Trump's base is completely divided at this point.
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You have, you know, independent media like Tucker, like Candace,
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you know, like the big ones, right?
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They're they're basically saying like Trump, what are you doing?
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You know, you, you, you, you betrayed your base.
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And then you turn on Fox News, you live in a different reality.
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You know, they're like cheerleading him along it.
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It it's it's it's it's. Looney Tunes.
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It's crazy. So is the Overton window
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shifting? Do you see people waking up to
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this reality? Are they still kind of stuck in
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this matrix? I think people have been more
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awake than they ever have in their lifetime, but it's
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generational. So a change in an empire is not
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really something we all live through.
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Most people die before an empire changes.
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So everybody that's await today is finding out what a regime
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change looks like. And the FIC is executing A
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regime change right now. And So what that looks like is
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things like we are experiencing, you need to the British people
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up until World War One and through World War One and World
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War 2, they thought that the Brits were civilizing people,
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exporting democracy and they were beacons of freedom and
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goodness and civilization. And then when we had World War
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One and World War 2 and there was a regime change from the
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Bank of England to the Federal Reserve, from the, you know, the
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Dutch East India Company to the British East India Company to
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the military industrial complex in America, and then later
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BlackRock State Street in Vanguard people.
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You know, it's not until the end that you realize, oh, the
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British Empire was evil. And then their history books are
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rewritten. And then you have to go through
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a undo all of the media manipulation and education
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manipulation that you did to make people think that they were
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doing good through through this whole time.
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And so we're going through a re education camp within America
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now. That's not because they're like,
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OK, we need to change America. Is because they're
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systematically doing a managed transition away from dollar as
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world reserve currency to a world of multi polarity.
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And so within that you need to deconstruct everything that
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propped up the dollar. There are several mechanisms
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that propped up the dollar. One of them is the Japan carry
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trade, which was leftover mechanism from World War 2 when
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you installed the Bank of Japan. There was also the installation
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and regime change around the German central bank after the,
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you know, the Hitler regime was taken out.
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The governor of the Federal Reserve was also his brother.
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The Wahlberg family was also the the leader of the rice bank, the
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German bank. So Wall Street was effectively
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funding fascism. It also executed A regime change
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within Russia, where it replaced the SAR with the Soviet Union
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and created the Communist Manifesto that was funded by
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Wall Street. They also switched over to the
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Federal Reserve System. So you had fake capitalism,
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communism and fascism, and that made the strategic tension and
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the justification for all the war.
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Then you need a narrative. You need the Soviets to believe
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that they're fighting. You need the fascists to believe
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that they're fighting. You need the capitalists to
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believe that they're fighting. And you need them all to believe
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that they are effectively in a holy battle for good.
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And they're on the right side of history.
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So you write history to that effect.
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And so the American empire was built upon that, but now they're
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deconstructing it. So you break the Japan carry
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trade, you break the euro dollar, which was based upon
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Germany being a manufacturing base and that required cheap
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energy and you break the Petro dollar, which is what we're
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witnessing right now. You also have to regime change
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some of the powers that propped up the dollar, the quote UN
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quote deep state, which was covert wars all around the world
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via funding mechanisms like USAID and the National Endowment
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of Democracy. You say you install someone as
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president that's taken down the deep state, and when you take
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down the deep state, you take down the constructs that propped
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up the dollar. So it looks like you're doing
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good. That was the doge operation.
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Then you also need to have a mechanism for ruin every
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relationship that propped up American hegemon power, and that
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was tariffs. And so tariffs renegotiated
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every relationship, made all the small, many small businesses in
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America go bankrupt because it was a tax on American small
23:10
business, allowed foreign organizations to put
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transnational capital to purchase infrastructure that was
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going bankrupt as a result of the exports and tariffs, and
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also drove everyone towards China's manufacturing base.
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And so you need to frame America as a destabilizing force and
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China as a beacon of stability. And so there's been lots of
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operations. Terrace was the perfect one to
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do it. Then you need to systemically
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wipe out the morality of what people believe.
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That was the Epstein files. And so by releasing the Epstein
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files, you make everybody understand that much of this
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blackmail network, the propped up corporate America, was
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actually an evil blackmail and paedophilia ring.
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And actually it was weapons trafficking, humans trafficking,
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sex trafficking and everything that people, normal people think
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are disgusting. And you effectively destabilize
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the empire. Then you need a global reset
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event. That's what we're experiencing
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right now, which is the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which
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leads to the changing and repricing of 50 different
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commodities, energy, and that sets the new world order.
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So in the 15th of May, 20 this year, Trump will be meeting with
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Xi Jinping. And the outcome of that was
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effectively will be the next World order that will mark the
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change. And Trump delivered that.
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Because then you look at, well, who benefited from this?
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You have a look. Well, it was the countries that
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actually had nationalized oil, that's Iran and Russia.
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It was the country that had the manufacturing base and
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everyone's exports were dependent upon.
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That's China. And then it was the private
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corporate interest that managed to get new LNG contracts and new
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oil contracts. That was Chevron, Exxon, Shanir
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Energy, which is 70% owned by Qatar, 30% owned by Exxon, and
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Golden, sorry, Golden Pass is 70% owned by Qatar and then
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Shanir Energy as well. And so when Trump says we're
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kicking ass, we're taking on China, we're closing the street
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and we're getting all the energy, America has all the
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solution. America doesn't have a sovereign
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wealth fund. America doesn't benefit from it.
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American private corporate interest or big oil, which
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represents 1% of GDP benefits, but 60% of GDP, which is the
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American people suffer because they pay the inflation which
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just came in at 4%. And then they also pay the
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increase in the debt which is about to come in at 40%.
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And where did that money come from?
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The military industrial complex. They got 1.5 trillion stimulus
26:13
check. The financial industrial
26:15
complex, they own all of the different companies and they get
26:19
a concentration of power because this will lead to a big print
26:22
just like after the global financial crisis.
26:27
And what else will happen? Well, the civil unrest that
26:29
results from this food insecurity, you know, supply
26:34
chains that breakdown lockdowns, his operation warp Speed 2 point
26:39
O, just like Trump did in in term one.
26:42
Who benefits from that? The technical industrial complex
26:45
with their police and surveillance state.
26:47
So what did Trump do? He put the PayPal mafia in
26:51
through the Department of Government Efficiency.
26:52
He created effectively what is now a social credit score
26:56
through X and now, and now today they announced that everyone's
27:01
going to be trading and doing financial services and stable
27:04
coins through X. That's your social credit score.
27:07
They'd said freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach because
27:10
they weren't censoring anymore. They wanted us to talk so we
27:13
could build our score. They then did Genius Act and
27:16
Clarity ACT. They did stable coins and then
27:20
they handed over the yield to the banks and the financial
27:23
industrial complex. The tech companies needed to
27:26
apply for banking licenses in order to pay yield on their
27:29
stable coins. So they had to join the Federal
27:32
Reserve System, which is the number one shareholder of the
27:35
Bank for International settlements effectively.
27:39
And you know, and and also you get the stimulus check for the
27:43
military, the massive money printing for the FIC and then
27:48
the police and surveillance state for the tick.
27:50
Who is Trump funded by? Now?
27:52
Let's look at the lobby that installed him.
27:54
The number one funder was Elon Musk.
27:59
So Elon Musk got, you know, he got his, he's a node in the
28:03
tick. The second biggest funder was
28:06
the banking dynasty of the Mellon banking family, Thick.
28:10
And who was the third largest funder?
28:12
Maria Meadleston. Maria Meadleston is connected
28:14
with Israel. Israel is a node for the Mick to
28:17
create war in the Middle East. And so you get a mixed stimulus,
28:22
a fixed stimulus and a tick stimulus.
28:25
So Trump's job is just to take all of this and make it look
28:30
like it's for the American people.
28:32
MAGA. And then you get psyops by the
28:34
CIA like you where people think he's playing 5D chess so they
28:40
start publishing every move and his MAGA base just becomes the
28:45
the lowest denominated idiot in the end because things just get
28:49
worse and worse and worse. And then suddenly you say, well
28:53
he's working with China, he's working with Russia.
28:56
And lo and behold, we get a multipolar world and he is
29:01
delivered. Now he will be known as like a
29:05
traitor. He created a war.
29:07
Everyone will be confused. That's because you thought he
29:10
worked for the American people. He worked for the FIC, and he
29:13
did a great job for the FIC. And everything he's doing is
29:15
rational because they're cashing in and they're doing incredibly
29:19
well and the people are paying the debt and they get the
29:22
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29:26
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infinite@bitcoinwell.com. Simon, so you're blowing my mind
30:33
right now and a lot of these things, again, I'm connecting
30:36
the dots while you're talking. And again, it explains a lot of
30:38
the actions, right, that he's making at it again, as you said,
30:41
are confusing, right? They don't kind of make sense.
30:45
Who But you, you did describe earlier on in the in the
30:48
conversation how this has been happening since like basically
30:53
it was World War One, then World War 2.
30:55
And it's kind of like this kind of regime change that happens
30:58
every, every cycle. Who, who, who are the puppet
31:01
masters here? Like, who are the the main
31:04
beneficiaries these like, you know, rich families?
31:08
Were they based out of like, you know, who?
31:10
Who's really pulling the strings?
31:13
Yeah. People want to think that this
31:15
is some organized cabal that never changes.
31:18
It actually is a ruthless game of backstabbing and it is a
31:23
governance structure more like a mafia.
31:26
If you continue to add value to the mafia, then you continue to
31:29
rise in the mafia. If you don't, if you don't
31:33
continue to provide value to the mafia, then you get knocked down
31:36
the mafia. And what does that look like?
31:38
Well, everybody as they climb the ladder needs to be
31:40
integrated into a compromise network.
31:43
And so that's why you saw so many names in the Epstein files.
31:47
You know, there are blackmail networks, there are compromise
31:50
networks, but mainly it's done through capital.
31:53
So then you look at who's on top of capital.
31:56
Well, originally, and it was the Dutch, you know, it was the
31:59
Dutch that created this construct with the Dutch East
32:01
India Company, the limited liability company, the stock
32:05
market and the bond market that came from the Dutch Empire.
32:10
Then when the Brits created a superior military fleet, they
32:15
took over the constructs. We had the British East India
32:18
Company, we had the Bank of England and we bankrupted the
32:22
British government. And then once we got to the
32:24
bankruptcy phase, you need a change of empire.
32:27
So World War One was that. And so during World War One,
32:30
effectively you created what later became Israel by the
32:35
Rothschild family. And you know, that was to
32:39
destabilize the Middle East and get access to oil.
32:42
You then did the Bolshevik Revolution, which was to get
32:45
access to Russia's oil and then you you then you created the
32:50
Bank for International Settlements to manage Germany,
32:52
reparations into the British Empire and the American Empire.
32:58
And then the Federal Reserve System was the precursor to
33:00
making all of that happen. Then you needed a pump cycle,
33:05
which was a debt leveraging event, the 29 cycle.
33:08
Then you needed a Great Depression where the Fed rug
33:10
pulled everybody and ended up concentrating all banks into a
33:14
smaller and smaller number of banks rug pulling everybody's
33:18
wealth. You go into a Great Depression,
33:20
which is effectively A wealth conversation exercise.
33:25
You steal everybody's gold, you take Germany's gold, you take
33:28
the British colonial gold, you take Russia's gold, you put it
33:32
in the Fort Knox and the Fed. And then you steal the American
33:37
people's gold by making it where they have to hand it in and gold
33:40
ownership illegal. And then you effectively need a,
33:46
a World War 2, the winner of the war gets to rewrite history.
33:50
So everything we were told about World War One and World War 2
33:53
was completely false. But then you have an event, a
33:58
new, a new world order as it were, which was Bretton Woods.
34:02
And so Bretton Woods effectively was, well, you have this
34:07
military industrial complex. Now what happened at that time?
34:11
You had the wealthy European families, the the Rothschilds,
34:14
the war birds, all the legacy, you know, the Medici families
34:19
and all these various wealthy families.
34:22
They became the shareholder class in the managed transition.
34:26
And so they ended up with shares in many of the banks, many of
34:29
these different things, but then a different, you know, a
34:34
manufacturing base and the military companies, Lockheed
34:37
Martin, General Dynamic, Raytheon, Boeing, they all
34:41
became really important. And so you manufacture strategic
34:44
tension, communism versus capitalism, the Cold War.
34:48
This is to make sure that you can continually fund wars.
34:52
And, and then we entered into that power change.
34:55
Now what happened is when they entered into the Korean War and
34:59
then the Vietnamese war based upon the communism versus
35:03
capitalism argument, they funded Europe, they split it up, and
35:08
you know, they funded the rebuild on both sides.
35:12
They effectively entered into a phase of bankruptcy, which was
35:17
1971. They regime change JFK into
35:21
Lyndon B Johnson. Lyndon B Johnson started
35:25
continuing the Vietnam War. The Vietnam War bankrupted the
35:29
US government. And then what they said is now,
35:32
you know, that promise that we made where everyone can convert
35:35
their dollars into gold at the IMF, You know, we kind of can't
35:39
do that anymore. So everybody changed it where
35:41
your currency is not backed by gold, your currency is backed by
35:44
dollars, Our dollars are backed by gold, but now you can't
35:48
exchange them for gold. And so we entered into the next
35:52
cycle, which was the Petro dollar.
35:54
So now you had military being important, legacy finance being
35:58
important, and the shareholder class.
36:01
But when they managed to actually default and remove the
36:04
gold standard, we entered into the rise of FIG as a primary
36:08
power. Now what they needed is a
36:10
mechanism for propping up the debt.
36:13
And so they created the Petro dollar.
36:15
This is when the CIA assassinated King Faisal.
36:19
Israel pushed and created a destabilization force in the
36:24
Middle East. You had the Yom Kippur War, King
36:27
Faisal then did an oil embargo that led to that the in 1973,
36:32
the stagflation. And that also led to an
36:35
intelligence network called Safari Club that laid the
36:38
construct for what later became 911 via Saudi intelligence,
36:42
Israeli intelligence and the CIA.
36:45
And then they created the fake War on Terror as the next
36:49
mechanism so that you could always have strategic tension in
36:52
the Middle East and push the narrative away from communism
36:57
versus capitalism to the War on Terror.
37:01
But it was propped up by the Petro dollar.
37:03
You had to ensure that none of the countries in the Middle East
37:07
could unify around their oil resources.
37:10
And King Faisal was the last one that did that.
37:13
So they assassinated regime, changed and created the Petro
37:16
dollar at the Petro dollar said every time you purchase oil in
37:21
dollars, you must purchase U.S. Treasuries, lend it back to the
37:26
US government so that we can roll over the debt based Ponzi
37:30
scheme and effectively that went right through to Trump
37:34
administration. One, the debt went spiraled,
37:37
spiraled, spiraled. We had the fake War on Terror.
37:41
We had 911 in order to justify the narrative that led to
37:45
Patriot Act. Then you had a fake anthrax
37:49
operations to say it was Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
37:52
Then you had Iraq, Sudan, Libya, you know, all everything that
37:58
led to basically Iran, where we are right now.
38:02
All of that was a mechanism for rolling over the Ponzi scheme
38:07
and extracting wealth and dumping all the debts on the US
38:11
government so that the American people could pay for it.
38:14
That creates extreme wealth inequality.
38:18
And you had complete subordination of government by
38:22
the FIC because as soon as you went away from the the the gold
38:27
standard, there was no, there was no resistance on the debt.
38:31
There was no mechanism for any country doing anything.
38:35
So then you had the bowl of milkshake theory where all of
38:37
the countries were lending and buying treasuries.
38:40
Treasuries became the most liquid and backed up by the
38:43
petrodollar. But what happened during Trump
38:46
administration? One massive change, America
38:51
became an an, an energy exporter and energy neutrality that broke
38:57
the Petro dollar. And so the deep state,
39:00
effectively the UNI party had to regime change from that moment
39:05
because now what was happening, the Gulf countries, America
39:11
didn't need the Gulf countries for energy anymore.
39:14
And so now you've got America competing with the Middle East
39:19
to export their energy, oil and LNG.
39:23
And so where does the Gulf, where did the Middle East go?
39:27
Well, remember China joins the World Trade Organization and
39:32
effectively America said about asset stripping all the American
39:37
people and hike creating a hyper financialized economy.
39:41
They wanted to financialized, securitize and later tokenize
39:44
every aspect of America. And then they outsourced all the
39:48
manufacturing to China. And so China built the
39:51
manufacturing base to the point where the military industrial
39:55
complex couldn't create a weapon without China.
39:58
And so China then managed to get all the rare earth minerals with
40:02
Africa and all these different things that we're seeing right
40:04
now. And the military industrial
40:06
complex game fully subordinate to FIC.
40:09
And FIC now didn't need the Petro dollar.
40:13
And the Gulf sovereign wealth funds, where were they getting
40:15
all their money? They were selling all their
40:16
energy to China. So China now says, hey, we don't
40:21
want a Middle East that props up the Petro dollar for America.
40:24
We're going to create bricks and de dollarize.
40:28
And so the UNI Party said about creating a managed transition
40:32
away from the Petro dollar system by strategically
40:35
weakening the dollar. So they broke the Japan carry
40:37
trade slowly, they used Trump in order to ruin the European
40:41
relationship with NATO, and then they broke the petrodollar with
40:46
the, you know, with the Gaza genocide in the Iran war.
40:53
Lots to unpack there, Simon. I, I want to take, you know,
40:57
because I want to take the rest of the podcast to insert a
41:01
little bit of optimism in here because I clearly, you know, as,
41:06
as you've so eloquently described and how I've noticed
41:10
as well, clearly, you know, the American people or I would say
41:14
most people in their countries don't really have control over
41:18
the destiny of the future of their countries.
41:20
I think, I think we can all agree to that at this point.
41:23
It's clearly undeniable. But what I would say is, Simon,
41:28
I think there's two elements that I'm seeing that I think
41:32
I've I've changed the game, so to speak.
41:36
First was the rise of social media and the ability for us to
41:41
have these types of conversations and then these
41:43
types of conversations directly sent to our viewers, therefore
41:48
bypassing the gatekeepers of information that I think the
41:51
governments were used to having for, I would say, until the age
41:55
of social media. And you saw how much pushback
41:57
they really gave when, when when the majority of people started
42:01
consuming information via social media rather than the legacy
42:04
media. And then the other, I would say
42:07
pivotal shift that I think is coming is the disintermediation
42:10
of kind of money and state, right?
42:12
And I think we're in the very early innings of that.
42:16
Do you think that those two things, the disintermediation of
42:19
information and the disintermediation of money are
42:23
going to play a role in people really getting reclaiming back
42:28
their financial sovereignty? And when, when I mean that, I
42:31
don't mean, you know, reclaiming back, you know, the, the, the
42:34
nation state, I think the nation state is an, is an aged model
42:38
and in, in, in my view, but really reclaiming financial
42:43
sovereignty over themselves. All right.
42:45
And and then of course, that gives them the ability to vote
42:47
with their feet, go to more favorable jurisdictions.
42:51
Where is Bitcoin fit into all of this?
42:54
Like what? What?
42:55
What's your take? Yeah, absolutely.
42:59
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The biggest problem in the world is that the people that are
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44:19
network of wealth that is transnational.
44:23
It doesn't have an America First agenda, it doesn't have a
44:26
European first agenda, it doesn't have a UK first agenda,
44:30
It doesn't have a Canada, Australia First agenda.
44:33
It is complete asset stripping for the FIC.
44:36
OK. Once you know that, you realize
44:39
so our government are captured. They don't work for us.
44:42
That's not going to change. You're not going to change it.
44:45
The only way you change it is by playing the rules that they play
44:49
by. And the rules that they play by
44:52
is that they buy the politicians.
44:55
And that's what the lobbies do. They know that politics is a pay
44:59
to play system. And so that's the only game that
45:03
you can win. You vote with your money.
45:06
Now, immediately most people think, well, I don't really have
45:09
any money, you know, I mean that or I've got money, but what do I
45:14
do? I think the most important thing
45:18
to understand is that the wealthy are going to change the
45:20
system. So you're either wealthy or
45:23
you're not. But it is only the wealthy that
45:25
get to play the political game. Once you know the rules, you
45:28
focus where you can make a difference.
45:31
How do you impact the wealthy? You impact the wealthy by
45:34
boycotting the constructs that allow the FIG to have their
45:38
power. And that's what everybody can
45:41
do. Everybody can do it.
45:44
When I first discovered how this system works, and there's been a
45:47
life obsession for 25 years, the first thing I tried to do was
45:54
get involved in politics. And then I realized that the
45:57
politicians weren't going to listen to anything.
45:59
I was asking politicians to change the system when they were
46:02
being paid by the people that I was trying to take their power
46:05
away from. Useless.
46:08
So then I tried to like be involved in a, you know,
46:13
teaching at the educational system.
46:15
I got chucked out of London School of Economics.
46:17
I got chucked out of Birkbeck. I got chucked out of the
46:20
University College of London. You know, they just the, the
46:25
university was the establishment.
46:27
They don't even teach you how money works in reality in
46:31
economics because they're they're training you for the
46:35
debt based system for the fig. So then I said why don't I
46:38
create my own Bank of a non fractional Reserve Bank where
46:41
people could own their money. I got rejected by the Bank of
46:45
England. They said you need $60 million
46:47
to continue this business plan 60,000,000 lbs.
46:51
And then they said, and also you need to build it on top of
46:56
another bank. So they said you can you build
46:57
it on Barclays. So so I'm saying, so I want full
47:00
reserve, but I need to take my customers full reserves and put
47:03
them in a fractional Reserve Bank so that they get the money.
47:07
OK, yes, that's how the system works.
47:08
So all right, so then I was like, can I get direct access to
47:11
the Bank of England? And they said, no, you've got to
47:14
have a full banking license. So basically then I realized
47:17
there's no point in that. And this is the point when I
47:19
discovered Bitcoin. This was 2011 and I was invited
47:23
to the first Bitcoin in Prague and Bitcoin was about $3.
47:28
And I realized, wow, this technology exists outside the
47:32
system. It was all the things I was
47:34
trying to create in a bank. Money you can own, money you can
47:36
spend, and the money that has a fixed supply that takes on the
47:40
central bank from the debasement and money printing.
47:45
So then I said about investing in all the companies and I
47:49
invested in Coinbase, Kraken, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Circle, over
47:54
100 different companies in the sector.
47:57
They all became went public and became banks and so they became
48:00
a part of the establishment. Then I started looking at
48:04
investing in other people. They all became Bitcoin treasury
48:06
companies and subordinates to Wall Street.
48:09
Then I started looking at how can I use my Bitcoin and I put
48:13
some money in Celsius and realized that these are all
48:17
scams as well that are trying to get you to borrow against your
48:19
Bitcoin. And I just went through the
48:21
whole cycle and realized that our our sector keeps getting
48:25
sucked in and sucked in. And then they, they came the
48:28
mechanism for getting everyone to leave their Bitcoin in
48:31
custody with Coinbase and a BlackRock ETF.
48:34
And BlackRock ended up with the most profitable ETF based upon
48:38
Bitcoin. And everyone kept buying micro
48:41
strategy shares or a Bitcoin ETF and then borrowing against their
48:44
Bitcoin. And then everyone was giving
48:47
Wall Street more power with their Bitcoin.
48:50
And so here's how we win. They will use Bitcoin to make
48:54
their system more powerful. I've submitted to that.
48:57
We're not going to fix the system.
48:59
But what we can do is opt out and boycott the system, which is
49:02
exactly how Bitcoin was designed.
49:05
So you can home mine if you want to compete with the central
49:08
bank, you can hold it in self custody if you want to compete
49:12
with the custodians, and you can buy Bitcoin if you want to
49:15
compete with the Fed. And then you can take your
49:18
wealth and you can join a lobby if you want and try and change
49:22
the system once you're wealthy. Or you can just opt out of the
49:25
large fake portfolio companies and go local.
49:30
Support your farmers, support local spending, support your
49:33
local communities wherever you can.
49:37
Don't borrow against your Bitcoin unless it's part of a
49:39
managed plan and it's a minority of it.
49:42
So you can boycott the Fed by earning Bitcoin.
49:44
You can boycott BlackRock by holding it in self custody
49:47
rather than ETF. You can boycott the banks by not
49:50
borrowing against it. You can boycott transnational
49:53
capital, multinational institutions by building your
49:58
own parallel supply chains. Once you become sovereign.
50:02
Get out of cities, go urban like, build your own parallel
50:05
systems, parallel networks, build your own decentralized
50:09
social media platforms. We contribute to that.
50:11
Invest in companies that are investing.
50:13
The real battle, there is no borders, there is no country.
50:17
This is a technical industrial complex, police and surveillance
50:21
stay that is being built by FIC. And the best you can do is exit
50:27
and just don't support it. And we were given that gift.
50:30
Satoshi Nakamoto open source, this project, I believe
50:34
originally this was meant to be intelligence agency project and
50:38
it was got it it. It came out as open source code
50:42
and that open source code had many, many infiltration attempts
50:46
at centralization. There were hard forks to try and
50:49
put us onto a new chain that were trying to get us into
50:53
stable coins. There were attempts to
50:56
centralized developers through funding different companies.
51:00
There were every attempt. There was centralization and
51:03
mining. There was all sorts of stuff.
51:06
But the network remained as decentralized as it could be.
51:10
Where there was a geographically diverse network of Bitcoin
51:14
miners in countries that hosted in countries that hate each
51:18
other. Some private, some public, some
51:21
sovereign, some national, some international, some
51:25
decentralized around different structures.
51:28
We managed to keep the node networks where we could keep the
51:30
miners accountable as long as you run your own node.
51:34
We were able to fight back against the custodians by opting
51:38
out at the exchanges and every time someone left it in an
51:41
exchange, they got RUB pulled and they started rebuilding in
51:44
self custody, having more resilience by owning their own
51:48
Bitcoin. And when every time they tried
51:51
to infiltrate the developers. We get competing
51:54
implementations, we get competing node structures, we
51:58
get hard forks, soft forks, we get an open source boardroom.
52:02
When we take our eye off the ball, somebody comes along and
52:05
says, hey, why were they doing these things?
52:09
You know, why was who are the developers?
52:12
We need to understand more about them and suddenly we get all
52:14
those attention. So all this to say, I am
52:17
extremely hopeful and grateful that we are able to exit, we are
52:24
able to boycott. And I spent my whole life and it
52:27
wasn't until 2011 that I discovered there was actually a
52:31
way of doing it. And anybody can do it.
52:35
And all you need to do is implement some simple rules.
52:38
Spend less than you earn, invest the difference in sovereign
52:42
assets. If you want to do a gold in self
52:45
custody, fine. The Bitcoin in self custody is
52:49
where you can exit your country when your country gets too
52:52
oppressive. You can send it to anyone in the
52:55
world when you want to support new supply chains anywhere in
52:58
the world. You can self mine from anywhere.
53:01
You can take cheap energy in one country and you can plug into a
53:05
self mining network. You can memorize a phrase and
53:09
you can take that with you wherever you want to go and
53:11
nobody can take it unless they physically get you.
53:15
You can spend it in a innocent until proven guilty system and
53:20
no central bank can debase it. That changes the world for you
53:26
if you use it the way Bitcoin was originally designed.
53:29
But they're going to try and steal it.
53:30
They're going to sigh up you into custodians and
53:33
centralization and we've all learnt it.
53:35
I fell for them all. The reason I can share this is
53:37
because I've done everything wrong in Bitcoin in my 15 years
53:41
of being involved, so I have massive hope.
53:44
And what is the future of the world?
53:47
The future is decentralization, no doubt about it.
53:50
We need decentralized social media.
53:52
We need to take what we did in Bitcoin.
53:54
We need to take level layer two payment networks.
53:58
And the only people that are going to make this are sovereign
54:01
individuals, sovereign companies and sovereign countries.
54:04
And as these big constructs breakdown, have no doubt about
54:08
it, this is the deconstruction of federal government structures
54:14
replaced with transnational control grids.
54:18
It's only the people that are opt out that are going to have
54:20
the the skills of owning their own private keys and the
54:24
security of knowing how to protect themselves.
54:27
And there's only going to be a few people that do that, sadly.
54:30
And you're the ones that are going to be the elites that
54:32
effectively bring a new form of responsibility.
54:36
And so build those parallel systems because it's at the end
54:40
is you, your family, your community and the people around
54:43
you and the the systems you build.
54:45
And Bitcoin is the base layer for that.
54:48
Amen. I, I absolutely love the way you
54:51
articulated that, Simon. And you know, I've, I've said
54:55
many times, right, it's Bitcoin or slavery.
54:59
If enough people, if enough of us take self custody, we'll win.
55:02
And there's nothing, nothing they can do about it.
55:04
So I haven't spent 25 years going down the rabbit hole
55:09
you've gone down, but you know, in the decade that I've been,
55:13
I've, it's interesting to me that I've, I've come to these
55:16
very similar conclusions. And also too, I think, Simon,
55:20
this particular cycle, I think the thing that troubled me the
55:23
most was the financialization of Bitcoin by that complex.
55:29
And the, the conversation moved from, you know, this
55:35
revolutionary, this, this revolutionary zeal that was
55:41
happening. And you, you felt it on X, you
55:43
felt it in the community. You felt people really wanted
55:47
this, this change. And it became about which again,
55:51
a lot of these people are my friends, so I'm not trying to
55:53
pick on any of them, But it became about the treasury
55:57
companies. It became, you know, about the
56:00
ETFs that that was really what was popular in the news cycle.
56:05
And if you make content you, you, you, you kind of have to,
56:08
we'll talk about the things that are being discussed in the news
56:10
cycle. And I think this last, this
56:13
previous cycle, it was the paper Bitcoin summer.
56:16
It was Bitcoin financialized. And I think a lot of people
56:21
forgot why we are here. We are here to fix the money,
56:25
fix the world. And the only way you do that is
56:27
by buying Bitcoin, earning Bitcoin, mining Bitcoin and
56:30
putting that Bitcoin into self custody.
56:31
That has not changed, right? Of course, you can take risks
56:36
with with a small percentage of your portfolio, but ultimately
56:41
they are risks. And ultimately you have to be
56:43
aware that it's, it doesn't equate to Bitcoin in self
56:47
custody, right? And you have to acknowledge the
56:50
risks that come with whatever it is that you decide to do.
56:53
Yeah, the right, the right way to frame that is, you know, you
56:57
have spending money. Most people need money in a
57:00
bank. They can't take currency risk.
57:02
You want to minimize that to risk manage.
57:06
But then you have saving Bitcoin is my savings, but if I then do
57:11
something with it, I, I use it as collateral or I purchase a
57:16
share instead of a Bitcoin or I hold it in exchange.
57:20
You no longer have Bitcoin and so you now have some kind of
57:24
investment vehicle with counterparty risk and you know
57:29
it's not Bitcoin at that stage. So and anytime you do something
57:32
with your Bitcoin is no longer your Bitcoin in most cases.
57:38
And so that's the way to think about it.
57:40
Absolutely. It's it's it's a form.
57:42
It's a form of IOUI would say. And again, there there's the
57:46
counterparty risk that you're talking about.
57:48
But I I love how this ended up going full circle, right?
57:53
You started describing exactly, you know, who runs the world,
57:58
right? What is the actual situation in
58:00
terms of, of people and their governments?
58:04
And then we ended with the solution and, and now I, I kind
58:08
of want to end the podcast with this.
58:09
Simon, what is your vision for the world, you know, 1020 years
58:14
from now as the Bitcoin ethos and the adoption of Bitcoin
58:19
inevitably spreads? I, I fundamentally believe that
58:23
Bitcoin is not just a financial innovation, Simon.
58:26
I think it, it is not only a revolution, but I also believe
58:31
that it is a political and cultural movement as well.
58:35
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So with all that being said, first of all, do you agree?
59:36
And second of all, you know, where do you see the world 1020
59:40
years from now? Yeah.
59:43
So I think, to quote Lynn Order, nothing stops this train.
59:46
And by nothing stops this train, we are shifting to a world of
59:49
multipolarity. Nothing's going to stop that.
59:52
So we're not going to have one dominant hegemon and one
59:54
dominant empire, which means we're going to have multiple
59:57
currencies, which brings multiple.
1:00:00
You know, rails that are needed in order to facilitate a world
1:00:04
of multi polarity. We're already starting to see
1:00:07
that the largest sovereign Bitcoin miner in the world,
1:00:10
Iran, was able to build sovereign wealth as a
1:00:13
jurisdiction. And immediately when they wanted
1:00:16
to change and accept currency for opening shipments in the
1:00:22
Strait of vermouth, Bitcoin was the currency that they could
1:00:26
accept. And stablecoins was the one that
1:00:28
got confiscated. And the money in the bank was
1:00:31
the one that's frozen right now. And I'm not talking about
1:00:34
circumventing sanctions because sanctions were lifted.
1:00:37
That's not legal advice or anything like that.
1:00:39
You know, you need to understand what you're doing.
1:00:41
I'm just saying that that's the, you know, that's an it gives you
1:00:45
a glimpse of what the world is in for now, sadly, I would love
1:00:52
to say, and I've debated Jeff Booth before, who I'm sure
1:00:56
you've had on your show, and he believes bitcoins going to fix
1:01:00
everything. I don't subscribe to that.
1:01:03
I think Bitcoin is going to create a next cycle of elites
1:01:08
and your job is to become one of those elites and the rest are
1:01:11
going to hold it in custody and make the fic more powerful.
1:01:15
And I don't think anything's going to change that.
1:01:17
And so it's going to be a small minority of Bitcoiners that will
1:01:22
stay to the Bitcoin ethos. And with that, responsibility
1:01:27
becomes an elite if you see the cycle all the way through.
1:01:31
So what do I think the future of the world is?
1:01:35
Well, the fall of the US empire into a regional hegemon rather
1:01:39
than global hegemon. I think it's inevitable,
1:01:41
predictable, guaranteed from here because fix doing it.
1:01:46
And so that means that effectively it's the rise of the
1:01:49
countries that are on the wrong side of the bomb.
1:01:52
And so America was on the right side of the bomb and everyone
1:01:55
else or a lot of other countries were on the wrong side of the
1:01:57
bomb. So remember, capital flows.
1:02:01
And so you will see other con currencies outperform the
1:02:04
dollar. You will see other stock markets
1:02:07
outperform the S&P. And but in a neutrality world,
1:02:11
you've got Bitcoin and you got gold and those two exist.
1:02:14
And so Bitcoin allows you to ride this wave wherever it goes,
1:02:19
but you can also take that wherever you want to go because
1:02:23
there will be losers, winners, and we will enter into a new
1:02:27
empire team. People think like a fourth
1:02:29
turning is the end of all the world.
1:02:31
No, this is going to get worse and worse.
1:02:33
The living standard in the West is going to get worse and worse.
1:02:35
Nothing's going to change. Nothing's going to change that.
1:02:38
The the fig is going to extract everything that it can, but it's
1:02:41
going to redeploy that capital into the global S where the
1:02:45
populations are. Africa, the country that was on
1:02:47
the wrong side of the bombs and the extraction, you know,
1:02:51
Southeast Asia, those countries are going to rise.
1:02:55
China's going to be investing around the world.
1:02:56
It's going to be a different thing.
1:02:57
I'm not saying you live in China.
1:02:59
I'm not saying you have to like what the CCP is, but China does
1:03:03
not have a track record of trying to bomb the world.
1:03:05
So you don't have to live in the places that benefit from that,
1:03:08
but you need to be sovereign as a sovereign individual.
1:03:11
And that's what Bitcoin and enables for you absolutely.
1:03:14
To me, sadly, it's not going to change the world, but it's going
1:03:17
to allow you to exit and you as an elite, you can try and change
1:03:21
the world. And that's what I think you can
1:03:23
do 100%. And I agree with I, I agree.
1:03:26
With with with that because and I've I've talked about this as
1:03:29
well, right? Like I think that as Bitcoin
1:03:32
continues to increase in price, if you define what someone an
1:03:39
ultra high net worth individual, there's about a quarter million
1:03:42
of them on earth, someone who has $30 million worth of assets
1:03:46
or more. And if Bitcoin reaches a 300 or
1:03:50
400 or $500,000 price point, about 30 to 40% of those
1:03:55
individuals are going to be bitcoiners, right?
1:03:57
So, and those individuals that that are worth that amount of
1:04:01
money and more are really the ones that have the most amount
1:04:04
of influence in society like that.
1:04:05
That's undebatable. Now, my my question to you,
1:04:08
Simon, and I'm sure the audience is going to enjoy this question
1:04:12
is how much Bitcoin do you need to be in the new elite?
1:04:20
Yeah. I think it's very individual.
1:04:23
It depends where you live, depends on circumstances.
1:04:25
I think everyone should try and play the the cost arbitrage.
1:04:29
Make sure you live somewhere where the costs are lower, you
1:04:33
earn somewhere where you can take advantage of that
1:04:36
arbitrage. You need to maximize the
1:04:39
differential between your income and your expenses.
1:04:43
And you need to own more Bitcoin every month and you need to do
1:04:45
that for 10 years. And you need to not deviate
1:04:48
that. And you don't need to look at
1:04:49
the price. If the price is going down,
1:04:52
great, you're going to have more Bitcoin.
1:04:53
If the price is going up, then your Fiat net worth is going up.
1:04:56
Just think of it like that and mine as much Fiat currency in
1:05:03
order to get as much Bitcoin so that you can exit the system.
1:05:07
It's impossible for me to say, you know, for you because people
1:05:11
have different, they've got different responsibilities.
1:05:14
You've got college, you've got families, you've got countries
1:05:16
like, you know, I can't give that type of financial advice.
1:05:20
Your job is just to own more this month than last month and
1:05:23
do that for for at least 10 years.
1:05:26
And we'll come back on this podcast if we're.
1:05:28
I'm sure you'll still be here in 10 years.
1:05:32
And I did that for the previous ten years.
1:05:35
And, you know, since $3, I've been telling people to do that.
1:05:39
And my network of millionaires, billionaires, elites, people
1:05:43
that got wrecked and everything, you know, we're people that are
1:05:45
actually changing the world behind the scenes.
1:05:49
And so, yeah, you know, set yourself a goal, what's right
1:05:52
for you, like get, gain some financial literacy, learn how to
1:05:56
read your personal balance sheet, your personal income
1:06:00
statement, take on really take this is a, I'll leave you with
1:06:04
this thing. Look, when I was deep in debt
1:06:05
because I, I, I, you know, I was deep in debt when I first
1:06:09
discovered Bitcoin. You know, for me, I had like
1:06:12
£250,000 in debt when I first discovered Bitcoin.
1:06:16
I felt my business was rinsing me.
1:06:20
I'd left my job. My last bit of credit card debt
1:06:24
was to go and speak at that first Bitcoin conference.
1:06:26
It was my wife that actually put, you know, allowed us to
1:06:29
take our last bit of money, scrimp together a flight and go
1:06:34
and speak at that conference. But I had to make a decision.
1:06:40
And I'm not saying this is the right decision for you because
1:06:42
there's consequences to it, but I just defaulted on my debt and
1:06:46
decided to buy Bitcoin instead. I did the same thing.
1:06:50
I maxed out all my credit cards. In 2016 to buy Bitcoin.
1:06:54
Yeah, that's why I defaulted on it all.
1:06:57
And just bought more Bitcoin because I needed to break the
1:06:59
cycle somehow. And you know, I'm not saying
1:07:03
that's right. For.
1:07:04
You there's consequences, there's of course, there's all
1:07:07
sorts of stuff, but the the. Things they don't.
1:07:09
Want you to know is how this system works, because you know
1:07:11
what breaks the system. What breaks the system is when
1:07:14
you don't pay your debt, because the whole thing is debt, and of
1:07:18
course this is not. This is not financial advice,
1:07:22
right? We're not giving.
1:07:23
Financial advice, we're not, you know, we're not talking about
1:07:25
all of that. We're just talking about our
1:07:27
personal experiences. Simon Dixon I did come back and
1:07:30
pay it for. For the record, I came back and
1:07:32
negotiated. The settlement, but it was only
1:07:34
once I had a a few years in order to get of course.
1:07:38
Yeah, because then it negatively effects you.
1:07:40
You can't get a car. You can't.
1:07:41
You know, the, the, the, the system, you know, essentially
1:07:44
excludes you out of it unless you, you know, you settle it.
1:07:48
But Simon, it's been an absolute honor.
1:07:52
You know, I've, I've, I've heard you so many times, not only on
1:07:55
your own channel, on, on other podcasts, but it's been a
1:07:58
pleasure to actually have this conversation with you myself.
1:08:02
So I really enjoyed it. Thank you so much for coming on
1:08:04
and hope to have you on the show again in the future.
1:08:07
Thank you. Yeah.
1:08:09
Thanks for having me. You can follow.
1:08:11
Me on X, that's where I kind of give real time updates.
1:08:15
I got a YouTube channel and what I found is I, I, I do very long
1:08:20
analysis on Bitcoin, tech, money, geopolitics, sometimes
1:08:23
like 3-4 hours every week. It's like a discipline for me
1:08:27
just to keep me doing it. But I kind of break.
1:08:29
I found I'm trying to use AI to get like take my 4 hour ran and
1:08:33
put it in 10 minutes. And so I publish those on my
1:08:36
blog, simondixon.com. No sponsorship, no monetization,
1:08:40
no business model, no products or anything.
1:08:42
I just do it because I want as many people to be a part of this
1:08:46
as possible because I think we've got some rough times
1:08:49
ahead. And you need to know a storm is
1:08:51
coming so that you can build your house, prepare your house,
1:08:54
get your raincoat, get your umbrella, because everyone else
1:08:58
is telling you it's going to be fine.
1:08:59
It's not going to be fine. You need to prepare.
1:09:01
Love it. Well, thank you so much, Simon.
1:09:03
Appreciate it. Thank you.