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206 | Raw After Wrestlemania 14 - March 30, 1998 · The ExtraCooler Show

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  Welcome to the Western show. You continue to talk like you're
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  talking right now and you'll be history on this program might.
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  Be a cooler show. Nobody eats beef or only on a
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  boat. Man, that's a.
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  Problem Yokozuna. Just blew my mind every time I
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  see you old lady. I'm going to kick.
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  Her on those moist. Up.
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  Let's go. I've got under your skin.
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  I'm ready for this. Episode.
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  Now. Yeah.
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  Welcome back to Part 75 of our Tom Brandy interview.
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  Oh, sorry, I. Still have to keep him alive in
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  the series that we've got going. But welcome back to the Extra
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  Cooler show. My name is Nick, otherwise known
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  as Extra Cooler. And as usual and as promised,
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  we've got the Survivor Series team.
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  Matt, Jim and Mike are joining me as we put a bow on
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  WrestleMania 14. As usual, you can find us over
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  on Instagram at Extra Cooler and at the Extra Cooler show.
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  Don't forget to join us over in our Discord channel.
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  Shout out to everybody that was out there WrestleMania weekend.
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  You guys always make watching WrestleMania that much more fun
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  when I'm just hearing us all pick apart and laugh and just
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  all the stupid shit. So we appreciate you guys
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  hopping in there when you can and it it's, it just makes
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  things better. It's popping off right now for
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  Dynamite because we're recording this on Wednesday evening and.
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  Oh hold on, let me go dump on. Leo Rush is.
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  Kind of a night or something. Well, yeah, that was part of it,
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  but Leo Rush is actually the thing that's going on right now
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  in his crazy contacts that he had this evening.
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  So anyway. All right, Matt, Matthew, you,
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  you got some housekeeping to do, right?
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  I do the only, the only thing that I have and I did not keep
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  anything down. And I, I think that there's one
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  negative of me getting a brand new computer is that I can
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  research things in the moment because now I have like the
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  power to actually do it. Just don't use Gemini.
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  Or yeah, yeah, come on, please. I, I feel like I that was a test
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  for everyone. That was my way of teaching
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  everyone that AI is stupid and it tells you no, this is this
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  was me waiting to do my homework until the very end.
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  But the only real housekeeping that I had from last week was
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  making sure that we had a new drop in the in the board here
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  and we may need to wait for that for later.
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  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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  I think. I think it fits in later.
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  I can't wait. I did have a little bit of
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  housekeeping actually. We we forgot to mention the last
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  episode that our new theme song. I know everyone loves it, just a
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  lot of comments about it on the discord.
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  Firstly, I do love it. Mikey Workrate recorded that on
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  his Casio keyboard. Like I don't know why we didn't.
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  Thank you, Mike. Yeah.
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  Sorry, I'm so sorry that. We you're welcome.
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  He had a kazoo too while he was doing it.
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  He had that. You know that button on the IT
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  has like the dog bark noise. Yeah.
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  I don't know why you didn't add those in there.
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  But Taco, I'm not going to mess with the genius.
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  Digging a dog. All right, we ready to roll.
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  Carlos. Done.
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  Oh yes, all right. So like I said, we're we're
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  putting a bow on this bad boy. We've been covering the build to
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  WrestleMania 14, Tyson and Stone Cold's interaction with one
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  another. Then we covered Tyson joining DX
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  and then our last two episodes were our our infamous two
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  parters of WrestleMania, which I absolutely loved.
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  But this story would not be complete if we did not talk
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  about the Raw after WrestleMania, which to me this
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  is the like first real Raw after WrestleMania.
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  They went all out with this thing, man.
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  It is it is insane. And there is I think everybody
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  remembers. You definitely remember the DX
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  stuff. I think that's the the top thing
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  that everybody remembers. But there's so many other things
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  in this episode, and like, the tide has completely shifted.
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  What I love about it is like just doing your homework prep,
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  right? You you just go and you look up
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  the card and maybe you see the results on, you know, cage match
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  or wherever website that you used to figure it out.
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  It doesn't really spoil much. No if.
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  You look at the actual like matches and what happens.
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  It's all of the in between and the, you know, the, the
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  storyline that's cut throughout the entire episode is you know,
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  exactly what the attitude error was built on.
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  And I think that this is a perfect example of what an
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  attitude error raw, the best of the best really felt and looked
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  like. So it's good stuff.
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  So perfect draw like. Oh, it is.
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  Sorry. I don't want to.
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  That's like the conclusion here, right?
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  I. Know.
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  Yeah, we get ready because I think you're going to hear us
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  kind of praising this along the way.
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  Like even the Kergan stuff's good.
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  Like no joke. Yeah, you're right.
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  We're we're big. Kergan stands here so.
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  There is that, so take it with a grain of salt, but sorry.
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  So this takes place March 30th, 1998 right after WrestleMania 14
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  from the Pepsi Arena in Albany. WrestleMania was in Boston and
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  it opens up with highlights of last night and the music is, to
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  me, very interesting. I don't think it fits with the
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  timeline whatsoever. This is it this.
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  Guy's so good. I was I we were talking about
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  something and I am a little upset that I didn't bring the
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  Kurgan music, but we'll get there when we get there.
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  Yeah, this, this isn't fit, but in the same breath, it's like.
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  Yeah, the the spectacle. WrestleMania.
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  Yeah. It sounds like Superman's flying
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  in the sky. You know, like.
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  That's. What I was going to say like a
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  Boy Meets World montage or something it.
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  Feels very Star Wars to me. Yeah, that's, that's Star Wars
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  again. They're medals at the end, Yeah.
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  But here we are. We get our recap.
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  We don't need to talk about it. You could go back and listen to
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  those episodes if you didn't already.
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  Or you could watch the encore. You could watch the encore.
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  You could watch the encore still.
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  Still another $50.00 I bet. What's the buy rate on the
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  Encore 153? How many people actually watch
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  that? It's a good.
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  If they, they should reduce the price.
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  Come on, what are they doing? I'm like, you know?
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  That was like the key time travel in school in in what was
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  it, middle school? We won't name his name when he
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  he recorded King of the Ring and like the next day at school,
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  even though he knew all of us were like die hard wrestling
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  fans, he did not want us to spoil that Brett won the King of
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  the ring, his favorite guy because he didn't watch it and
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  he had to get home and I remember him being pissed when
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  it was spoiled for him. Like I think it is.
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  No, you don't know this guy. OK your luck consider.
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  Yourself a doctor, you shall not be here.
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  Oh, man. But anyway, Jr. and Michael
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  Kohler on commentary and after Jim Ross, you know, cuts the
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  crowd. Jim Ross gives us a rundown in
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  the night. And right off the bat, you hear
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  the crowd booze as Vince walks down the ramp with a new belt
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  over his shoulder. Like, I remember the
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  presentation of this belt, but for some reason, I don't
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  remember Vince walking down to the ring with it over his
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  shoulder. It's so.
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  Nonchalant. It's so nonchalant, like they
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  don't even like talk about it. Either I know no.
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  This whole situation is just bizarre.
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  Absolutely. I I it's like the one negative
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  part of this entire episode. It's just the the disrespect
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  that the winged eagle gets. But let's finish.
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  Let's get. That right, right.
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  So Vince can't hear himself because of how loud the crowd
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  is. They want Austin, obviously the
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  newly crowned champion. Vince introduces Austin, who
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  comes out with his winged eagle. This is the last time we see the
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  winged eagle on television. He just throws it down on the
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  ground. And takes the problem.
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  Yeah. Takes the strap from Vince
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  without a word spoken between the two and he goes and poses
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  with the new belt. It's.
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  A little no. Reason for it, Like give me a
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  read. Like what?
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  What's happening? Come on.
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  Yeah. It it was obviously to say
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  something about it, the change of the eras, and I guess it's
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  better than what Triple H does and like announces that.
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  It's a brand new era. Yeah.
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  Yeah. It would have been a little
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  repetitive if that happened. Yeah, I like when the belts in
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  like the, you know, little satin case.
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  You know the case glass case is laying on a pillow.
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  Yes, yeah, you. Lag and they like strip.
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  Yeah, yeah. Come on.
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  A little pomp and circumstance, yeah.
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  This was to the point where the disrespect of Austin throwing
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  the title and it hits Vince in the shin or the foot and he
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  sells it big like that really hurt.
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  And he's like hopping on one foot at this point.
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  And yeah, Austin just rips it. They don't talk about it.
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  There's no pomp, pomp and circumstance.
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  There's no nothing. It feels, really.
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  Crazy. To be fair, it's in line with
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  the Austin character not to really give a shit.
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  It's yes, it's weird that he like just accepts his this new
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  one. But he's also the guy that threw
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  what right, The icy belt. Off the bridge.
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  Into the water and stuff. So he's in, you know, Cape
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  Faith. He doesn't shit.
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  This Albany crowd is hot. Oh my God.
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  Scorching this. So loud, start to finish.
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  It really is. But, and then again, we have to
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  talk about it 'cause it's the attitude there.
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  There are just signs plastered absolutely everywhere and it's
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  the night after WrestleMania. The vibes are high.
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  We have a brand new, brand new champion that's coming out and
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  Austin is white hot at this point.
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  You it's so crazy because Vince is out there.
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  He wants to clear things up between he and Austin.
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  And like, I feel like the Vince and Austin feud has been like
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  beaten to death at like as people talk about it, right as
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  like, you know, one of one of the top feuds in professional
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  wrestling history because of everything that it did for the
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  company and the business. But Vince is out there.
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  He wants to clear things up. He's proud of Austin to
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  represent this company. Vince is trying to get through
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  to Austin and tell them that they can team up.
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  And then he gives like the most awkward, I love you.
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  You're a hell of a guy. And like, yeah, when he does
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  this, it's interesting because it's like, it's not overdone at
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  this point. Like eventually this version,
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  that version of Vince and those kind of lines get like very
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  played out very fast. But it feels very raw.
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  And it feels like, I don't know, I enjoyed it.
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  I was like, this is this is Vince, like, yeah, 100.
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  Percent I love because he's so earnest, right, like you, you're
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  so used to like the Vince McMahon that you've known for
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  however many years we were watching 7 at this point or
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  whatever, right, but it's so you're like he's this cornball
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  guy who seems like so like when they're breaking that character
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  in this way, you like almost felt bad.
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  I remember almost feeling bad for him with the breath stuff
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  and then this like oh man, this is like.
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  This guy is. His.
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  His his baby is his company and now he can't.
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  He's losing control of it fast. But he knows in his words, Yeah,
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  go ahead too. No, he just, he, like you said,
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  it's the birth of this character and he knows what he's doing
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  here. And it's like this slow burn to
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  what we get later. It's it's fun to watch the
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  beginning. This there's one thing of like
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  you watching, I mean, hell, man, we're 206 episodes into this
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  podcast, right? We've watched a lot of old
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  wrestling to this point and there are some spots where
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  you're just going in blind and you don't know you know how much
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  you're going to enjoy it or what's going on and really
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  you're trying to live in the moment.
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  This. There is no way that you can't
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  look at this segment and watch this segment knowing what's
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  going to happen and know where this ends up and just go holy.
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  Shit. Like, this is such a major event
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  in the history of the WWFWWE that you have to look at this in
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  such a different path because of that.
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  And it's knowing where Austin and McMahon go.
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  And this really lays the groundwork in so many different
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  ways this entire episode, but this segment in particular.
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  And you know, Jim, to backtrack a little bit, you were saying of
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  like, you know, he's he's earnest here and he's using the
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  words like together with my mental prowess in your physical
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  prowess together. Together.
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  Mr. Austin, call him Mr. Austin. One day you may become the
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  greatest WWF Champion of all. Time.
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  Yeah, he's like Mr. Promoter here.
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  It's interesting, he. Drops you the I love you for the
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  first time. And then Austin comes in and
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  he's like, what did you say? And he like makes him repeat it.
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  Yeah, luck for the first time. But let's let's take our first
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  clip of the day. I said I love you, but I, you
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  know, I mean, it's just a. Figure of speech.
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  That's all I'm saying. OK hotshot, I love you too.
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  Now that we got all the gratuitous BS out of the way.
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  All the sentimental crap, what I'm telling you, you can look
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  right in my bloodshot eyes. I ain't going to do things your
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  way. I will continue to raise as much
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  hell and do things and create as much chaos and give you more
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  Gray hairs every single day of your life.
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  They just. They just laid the road map
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  forever. Right there.
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  And and it's so crazy to think about how long this feud lasts.
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  It's years, years like like this is WrestleMania 14.
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  We, we still have three years to go till we even get on into like
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  the WrestleMania 17 of everything.
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  It's, it's wild, it's going like they say they use.
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  What's the line that's going to feed families like this this
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  thing? This fed generations, yeah.
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  Right and there it feels, even though I know they're feuding a
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  little before this, right, but like something about this right
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  though out the jump feels so fresh, like it's like, oh, this
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  is like a you feel like you've turned the page basically.
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  Austin tells Vince he's going to do his own thing just like he
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  used to. Vince is telling Austin they can
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  do things the easy way or the hard way.
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  This is when Vince takes like a hard turn.
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  Austin says he wants 10 seconds to think about this.
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  He thinks, lets the crowd react, and then stuns Vince and flips
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  him off. If you want Stone Cold to
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  continue doing things the hard way, give me a hell yeah.
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  And they all go absolutely bonkers.
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  Absolutely. Shout out to Matt Botfin for the
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  always the Hard way T-shirt I have I did wear on Saturday.
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  It's got like Austin with like a skull head and he's like got the
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  severed head of McMahon. And it's got like this like
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  Friday 13th kind of Jason takes Manhattan background.
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  Like it's like a 80s horror movie.
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  Sure. It's so cool.
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  I love it. He does such incredible work,
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  yeah. Best of the best man backstage
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  we can we get back and Briscoe's loosening Vince's tie for him
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  giving him water in like a. Dawn of the Stooges.
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  Yeah, Dawn of the Stooges. And it's not even both of them.
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  It's still so Starge and Briscoe.
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  You've skipped over the fact that they gave us a
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  WrestleMania, the encore package.
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  Oh yeah, Deeper view of all time, Nicholas.
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  I can't keep talking about the damn Encore packages that they
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  give us a full. Price Why they turn up price
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  give. Me a goddamn discount, all
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  right? Like give me 10.
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  If I'm gifted with the ability to time travel, that's what I'm
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  going to do. Go back in time and tell Vince,
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  you know dude, just like slash the price like.
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  Off or something on Tuesday, 2 days later, 48 hours.
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  Come on, they're showing photos on RAW.
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  They came into the video yet? Damn Encore.
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  After you know what happens because it Monday Night Raw
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  happened. Come on.
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  Next Our next match is the Legion of Doom LOD 2000 facing
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  off against the Barriquas. Barriquas have to be the on
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  their way out because they're just standing in the middle of
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  the ring. They.
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  Don't even which to our music. Jose I.
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  Thought that was Grimace with the the one in the purple he
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  looks. Like Grimace, my my notes are
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  very slim right here, but I have.
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  Squash and. The match lasts 34 seconds.
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  Legion of Doom hits their finisher almost immediately,
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  thank God. He hits the old grimace looking
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  guy too. They they hold up Sonny on their
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  shoulders in the middle of the ring and she delivers the
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  twisted see steel and sex appeal.
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  I got it. You wanna hear it?
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  Yes, please. I'm gonna take the to you the
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  winners. LOD 2000 LOD 2000.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, this is just a small example of what you
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  get when. You mix, twist, appeal.
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  With sex appeal I give you LOD 2000. 2000.
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  I forgot they didn't call him that on the the night before
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  WrestleMania. Sunny, right?
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  Sunny is a lot to handle here. And my God, usually.
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  Like you would normally say on the microphone, this.
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  Her, Yeah, her delivery has always been kind of painful.
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  Kevin Kelly gives us an update on that.
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  Vince wants Austin arrested. He's standing backstage.
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  Not just Austin, he says. Vince says Stone Cold Steve
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  Austin. I always think that's funny
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  calling the police and like get arrest Stone cold.
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  Like I want techno team 2000 arrested.
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  I never thought of that. That's a really great call.
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  Sidetrack. Do you think Kathy Kelly is
• 18:01
  related to Kevin Kelly in WWE lore?
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  I don't think so, because. I highly doubt that.
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  She's a 10 and he's like a -10. She may be a 12, but Kevin.
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  Kelly looks like he was like half cooked or something.
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  I don't know what. It feels like, like a egg white
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  or something. You know he's missing something.
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  Oh boy. Who are these jobbers in the
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  background? Yeah, yeah.
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  Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  We're not. There, we're not.
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  There we forgot. To come back.
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  We get the Freddy Belasi old school like talent Attitude Era
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  commercial. Then we get Kevin Kelly
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  backstage once again. This time he's in a locker room
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  giving us an an Austin up dude. And there's like these, these
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  mega jobbers that I've never even witnessed, they look like
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  they're clearly enhancement talent.
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  They're all holding their heads nursing injuries with ice packs.
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  It's not like we just watch them get attacked by Stone Cold or or
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  anybody for that matter. Who the hell are they?
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  Are they the number one pick in the chopper?
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  Draft 2. .0 They might be if if you could find out their name.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, that's. That's the ice pack guy number
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  one. And the ice pack guy #2.
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  Yeah, they come as A tag. Team Yeah, yeah.
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  Do you Do you forget this little tidbit?
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  Journalistic broadcast Journalistic excellence from
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  Kevin Kelly when he says that DOA warned Austin right?
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  Yeah. That's which is do you?
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  I feel like that's just DOA thinking he's also a Skinhead or
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  something like that. Warned that other that my
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  brother my brother with the leather.
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  Vest. And.
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  Then Kevin Kevin Kelly also reports that Stone Cold Steve
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  Austin has told him that Vince McMahon doesn't have the balls
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  to have. Arrested.
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  All right. Before we move.
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  On. If Austin, if Austin just like
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  left the company here, they think they could have replaced
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  him with Skull or the next. Bald.
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  Guy. Damn it, I think chains.
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  Chains. Get edgy chains.
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  No chains has the hair. Oh, I'm.
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  The one that's supposed to confuse the guys.
• 20:08
  Here, I'm sorry. All right, before we move on,
• 20:11
  let's talk about what's in everybody's cooler.
• 20:14
  What's in the cooler is brought to you by Sloop Brewing Company.
• 20:17
  And I'm not going to read the whole thing because we got a lot
• 20:18
  to go over. So I've got tequila, I've got a
• 20:21
  big handle of lalo I found, which is a great deal.
• 20:24
  Let's definitely buy it if you can.
• 20:26
  In a handle. I've never seen a handle.
• 20:28
  Maybe not handle size, maybe 1.5, but still great.
• 20:31
  Deal. I like Lalo.
• 20:32
  Great deal. I got another half.
• 20:34
  It's called crashing the boards. Got it Because it's like the
• 20:36
  Knicks playoffs. Well, not mentioned the other
• 20:39
  night, but look at that. See, the backboard is kind of
• 20:41
  shattered. It's a hazy IPA, of course.
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  That's what I like. It has some like, oh percent.
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  It has my NBA Jam vibes. You like?
• 20:49
  Yeah, absolutely. Boom Shakalaka.
• 20:51
  I had it a couple of weeks ago, but I too have another half.
• 20:53
  I mean, if I'm wearing my other half hoodie that I bought when
• 20:56
  you took me to the brewery up in Rochester.
• 20:58
  So I have that collaboration with Industrial Arts brewery
• 21:02
  here in New York. Nuggy NUM NUM.
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  Yup, Nuggy NUM NUM is back. A beautiful.
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  Can it really is it's it's it really is it's hand drawn, line
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  drawn Nuggets. Single handedly propping up the
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  dying craft beer. Business, yeah.
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  Cheers boys. Michael Maggle.
• 21:24
  I got goo. I got goo.
• 21:26
  Goo the goo. Wait, wait, does he have it goo?
• 21:32
  That is what I teased when we were in in housekeeping.
• 21:36
  The best part was I, he, he, I texted Matt like at maybe like
• 21:41
  4:30 this afternoon. I was like, I sent him the clip
• 21:45
  of from Billy Madison. And I was like, I don't know
• 21:47
  what made me think of this? Did we even talk about it?
• 21:50
  Vaguely, yes. OK, that's why I was in the back
• 21:52
  of my head. And I had already written it
• 21:55
  down of something that I had to do because it just as soon as we
• 21:58
  called it goo last week, I was like, all right, that's where
• 22:00
  I'm going. Classic Billy Madison.
• 22:04
  The kid pees his pants and he goes.
• 22:07
  I had an accident. That is like top ten movie for
• 22:12
  me. I love it.
• 22:13
  Billy Madison, my. Son loves it so much.
• 22:16
  Now I was going to say, I wonder how it.
• 22:17
  Ages, yeah. Oh God, that's one of those
• 22:19
  movies I cannot wait to show my kids when they're like little
• 22:23
  older. He's in age.
• 22:24
  If it's golden era, it's legitimately good.
• 22:26
  There's you can't argue it. And that's even like, you know,
• 22:28
  Billy Madison, It's still, it's hilarious.
• 22:30
  Yeah. Dumb and Dumber, same thing.
• 22:32
  Yeah. Yeah, even my, like, my nephew,
• 22:35
  who is fifth grade, he like, ate up both of the Happy Gilmore's.
• 22:40
  Oh yeah, most recently. Like, it's just so great when
• 22:43
  that stuff is ageless. But I mean.
• 22:46
  You're going to die, clown. That's just funny, objectively.
• 22:50
  And I, I feel like I need to do this rewatch with my son who
• 22:55
  nine years old. You have to we, there's a
• 22:57
  better, there's a better half of this story too, because we live
• 23:00
  very close to West Point and we went to a West Point Army
• 23:05
  basketball game over the winter and they had like a putting
• 23:09
  competition in between breaks or whatever it was.
• 23:13
  And he went out there and on his second putt, he he made the the
• 23:18
  made the putt that he needed to. It was just on a mat.
• 23:20
  It wasn't on a hold. His baseball coach was with us.
• 23:23
  You know, we kind of a group of us all went.
• 23:25
  And now instead of his normal nickname, his baseball coach is
• 23:29
  now calling him happy because but and he was like, I bet you
• 23:32
  don't even know what that is. And he looked at him and he goes
• 23:34
  Happy Gilmore. And I was like, holy.
• 23:35
  Shit I didn't. Know what this was?
• 23:38
  I guess that's the power of. It's in the culture.
• 23:41
  The the second one, yeah, that's a great nickname for.
• 23:44
  For that is an incredible. Nickname.
• 23:47
  So he just goes around being called happy now on the baseball
• 23:50
  field. I think that's perfect.
• 23:52
  Love it. All right, let's move on to our
• 23:55
  next match because it is a monumental 1 and a very
• 23:58
  important one in the night. It is Kurgan with Jackal facing
• 24:04
  off against Chains now. Four weeks that I didn't pull
• 24:08
  Kurgan's theme because quite frankly, I think it's a banger.
• 24:11
  It's. Incredible.
• 24:12
  It's it's the might be the best theme music on this entire card,
• 24:16
  and that says a lot. Because it is.
• 24:19
  It's very, it's a very in the vibe of of all the themes of
• 24:23
  this era. Yeah, he doesn't give like as as
• 24:27
  ridiculous as Corrigan is, you kind of like look at him, you
• 24:30
  see the music and you're like, OK, like you kind of understand
• 24:33
  that what Vince is trying to do. Like you got to have some
• 24:36
  different like different size, different looking guys out.
• 24:40
  There doing different things and the concept with the Jackal, the
• 24:43
  concept is kind of it's there like I just don't I feel like
• 24:46
  they don't really commit to it. I mean if you want to get to the
• 24:49
  end of this match. Yeah, they they trade big boots
• 24:52
  before Korean gives chains the paralyzer and the Jackal yells
• 24:55
  at Jr. and call this is all your fault.
• 24:58
  What about? See?
• 24:59
  I love, I love that though. It's like this guys.
• 25:01
  Unhinged. He's that.
• 25:02
  Yeah. He's like this cult leader guy.
• 25:04
  I don't know. I think it's kind.
• 25:05
  I'm like, well this is. Kind of, but then the cool part
• 25:08
  that I was into, I'm I can't believe we're gushing about a
• 25:11
  Kurgan match. He continues.
• 25:13
  He does not break the paralyzer and he like carries chains off
• 25:18
  by his head. So picture like Kona crushes
• 25:21
  like you know when he crushes the head, but he's doing it with
• 25:23
  one hand on chains head and he's like he he's crab walking up the
• 25:29
  aisle with chains. It's I I thought it was pretty
• 25:32
  cool. It's so, yeah, crab walking.
• 25:34
  Exactly. He's he's holding onto his wrist
• 25:37
  essentially. So like as he's walking and I
• 25:39
  just did a quick YouTube and let's play it through the phone.
• 25:43
  Oh. God, that's so good.
• 25:49
  It has like a little kick in at the end.
• 25:51
  Yeah, it hasn't really kicked in.
• 25:54
  There you go. I like what they're doing with,
• 25:59
  I wrote in my notes. I like Kurgan chains better than
• 26:04
  Undertaker Kane at. Wrestling.
• 26:05
  Oh man, I like that you guys got some heat.
• 26:08
  I got text messages about your guys take on Kane and Undertaker
• 26:12
  and my friend Mike. Jim, you know him as well from
• 26:16
  your library side. MM get in the discord, bring
• 26:20
  that heat. All right, bring the heat.
• 26:21
  Bring the heat, buddy. Oh man, but Mike texted me and
• 26:26
  he was not pleased with you guys.
• 26:30
  Well, that's because. The Undertaker, in case I like
• 26:32
  it, I, I let's, I, we should set up a table.
• 26:35
  We'll do a podcast live and like, you know, you've got
• 26:38
  something to say about Undertaker Kane.
• 26:40
  Come, come, bring. It we'll take a.
• 26:41
  Call we'll. Take You 1800, Hogan.
• 26:44
  Loser has to get Sarah tattooed on their neck.
• 26:48
  Can we host this at the library, Jim?
• 26:50
  That's my dream. I want to host the wrestling
• 26:52
  match at the library that's happening on my watch.
• 26:55
  I will seriously like why just download discord app?
• 26:59
  I know like I think a lot of people are afraid to download
• 27:03
  the discord app or they just don't want another app on their
• 27:06
  phone but it is so worth. It yeah, banning the other stuff
• 27:09
  like you'd better chat with. People, you're on Facebook and
• 27:11
  Facebook don't. Get that wrong?
• 27:12
  Come. On Seriously.
• 27:15
  Love you, Tom, but I do. I do believe that a lot of
• 27:18
  people just. Don't be like any AI photos,
• 27:21
  Tom. All right, I know he's.
• 27:23
  A lot of. Sending AAI stuff to him, he's
• 27:25
  probably loving it and saying. Yeah.
• 27:28
  A lot of other podcasts, a lot of their a lot of other media
• 27:32
  outlets, I guess you can say have their discord behind a
• 27:35
  paywall. That is not the case with the
• 27:37
  show. Just come hang out, enjoy some
• 27:40
  good conversation, and make fun of Triple H and IF.
• 27:45
  You want to talk about movies or sports, that's there.
• 27:48
  Yeah, we got all different categories and like I, I know we
• 27:51
  invite you there every week. I say the same shit every every
• 27:54
  episode in the beginning and every people are like zip
• 27:57
  through me hit it on like 3 times.
• 27:59
  Speed. We'll Fast forward 15 seconds is
• 28:03
  idiot. I like Krugen, Mike.
• 28:06
  How back to the Discord? How about back to Kurgan?
• 28:10
  That it's like that was like a commercial break mid Kurgan.
• 28:12
  Hell, what? Darren, how about the Kurgan?
• 28:15
  Is my father's sign Brilliant? Spring. 10 out of 10.
• 28:19
  No notes, right? No notes proclaiming that that
• 28:23
  guy knocked your mom up. Oh my God.
• 28:27
  Someone else in this match someone has runs by the hard Cam
• 28:31
  with AWF fans don't have Neil Nielsen boxes.
• 28:35
  Also genius. Like that's hilarious.
• 28:37
  Like that's so good. And it's in the middle and of
• 28:40
  the of the Monday Night Wars, obviously.
• 28:43
  And yes, 83 weeks of WCW beating WWF, and that's because WWF fans
• 28:50
  don't have Nielsen boxes there. You go know anyone that's ever
• 28:53
  had a Nielsen box? Have you ever even like known
• 28:56
  someone that said they knew that their cousin's best friend?
• 28:59
  You know, like I never. Conspiracy theory.
• 29:02
  You have Nielsen boxes. I mean, I've heard of black
• 29:04
  boxes, but I've never heard of. Yeah, we had a.
• 29:07
  Black Nick knows about that. Yeah, my dad got fined.
• 29:10
  What kind of Why it's not? Until now, till 71 to finally
• 29:13
  retire because we're still paying off the debt from the
• 29:16
  black box mine for channel 40 and channel 42.
• 29:21
  Yeah, mankind on a therapist. Can.
• 29:24
  Hold up, hold up. Sorry, hold on.
• 29:26
  Just a few more things about Kurgan before we move on.
• 29:29
  Tim's going in on Kurgan I. Love him.
• 29:30
  No, do you know he's also, he's a more known for his Canadian
• 29:33
  acting or being a Canadian actor I should say, but he was in 300
• 29:37
  the movie, remember? Yeah.
• 29:39
  Deadpool 2 OK? I remember that actually.
• 29:42
  Pacific Rim and Sherlock Holmes, where he accidentally punched
• 29:46
  Robert Downey Junior in the face, bloodying him and knocking
• 29:49
  him down. Yeah, isn't that pretty crazy?
• 29:51
  But down? He said later that you know,
• 29:54
  Kurgan was 10 times more upset about it then.
• 29:58
  Kurgan seems like he'd be a swell guy.
• 30:00
  He's Canadian. Do you think Donnie Junior
• 30:03
  called him Kurgan on set? Hey Kurgan Kurgan also went by
• 30:08
  in his career ready for this The Acadian giant giant Kurgan
• 30:12
  Goliath El Gigante, which is a RIP off Goliath the Kurgan
• 30:17
  Goliath Goliath Kurgan the interrogator Kurgan Kurgan
• 30:21
  that's with two Rs and Kurgan the interrogator.
• 30:25
  So just for there was a Kurgan with one R and a Kurgan with two
• 30:28
  Rs. I'm not sure the stylistic.
• 30:29
  I think this is 2 Rs. At first, that's. 2R Kurgan Yes,
• 30:32
  you're right. First I thought you were on
• 30:34
  IMDb, but now I think you're on Wikipedia.
• 30:36
  I was on Wikipedia. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:38
  It's not AAI guys, that's why it's.
• 30:40
  Yeah. No, no, you do not endorse.
• 30:43
  The that's not for AAI, that's. You don't need AAI when you have
• 30:46
  me giving you Kurgan information.
• 30:49
  Let's not forget we we should cover some Kurgan oddities.
• 30:55
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah?
• 30:55
  Oh, it's just be a Kurgan show now.
• 31:00
  Last thing I Kurgan. Mikey, can you please do Kurgan
• 31:03
  impersonation? No, no, no.
• 31:09
  There we go. We're never done.
• 31:12
  Mankind's in a therapist couch talking about Jack's figures.
• 31:16
  That's our first commercial, which I always thought is kind
• 31:18
  of interesting that they they like kept those on Slammers the
• 31:23
  network. I love it.
• 31:24
  I love it. Yeah, it really.
• 31:26
  Those WWF commercials. It anchors you to the time time
• 31:30
  wrestling. You'd get lost in the wrestling,
• 31:32
  but that like, anchors you to like the culture in a way.
• 31:34
  Agreed. The police arrive as Vince,
• 31:37
  Sarge, Briscoe and the cops head to Austin's locker room.
• 31:41
  And then we get another match, Jeff Jarrett with Tennessee Lee
• 31:46
  facing off course. Aguila.
• 31:49
  Jeff Jarrett. OK, so let me try and paint the
• 31:52
  picture here. Tennessee Lee is in the ring.
• 31:55
  He's introducing Double J coming down right.
• 31:58
  The lights go out. Double J is wearing his like
• 32:02
  normal cowboy hat and the glasses that blink flashing
• 32:06
  lights. He's riding a horse.
• 32:10
  The The horse is covered in red flashing lights with matching
• 32:13
  gear, but mind you, the lights are out.
• 32:16
  You can barely even see that he's riding a horse.
• 32:19
  The announcers don't even mention to you that he's riding
• 32:22
  a horse. The lights go on and you still
• 32:26
  have no clue that this man just rode a God damn horse down to
• 32:30
  the ring. Like there's no referencing.
• 32:33
  The fact that I thought that was so bizarre to me that they don't
• 32:37
  even mention that Double J is coming down on a horse.
• 32:40
  Where does the horse go anyway? Yeah, kind of disappears, right?
• 32:44
  The lights are out and they keep the camera on.
• 32:46
  Tennessee Lee, who does not have lights on by the way, right?
• 32:49
  Pitch black and you see this silhouette of Tennessee Lee in
• 32:52
  his stupid accent. Oh God, yeah.
• 32:55
  I man, there's nothing more that helps me check out of a Attitude
• 33:01
  Era card than Jeff Jarrett. Yeah, Tennessee.
• 33:05
  Lee does not help. I like he sounds like.
• 33:07
  He sounds like the horse when he talks, he sounds like he maze.
• 33:10
  He's like. Yeah, mind you, he hops on
• 33:14
  commentary. Actually, there is one other
• 33:17
  thing that comes out later in this card and I will tell you
• 33:20
  that makes me check out even worse than Jeff Jarrett.
• 33:22
  We'll get there. This version of I should say
• 33:25
  this Jeff Jarrett drove me nuts. The Jeff Jarrett with Owen Hart
• 33:30
  I didn't mind so much. That's probably my favorite.
• 33:32
  Jeff Jarrett. He had a modernized bit.
• 33:35
  But Double J doesn't roll out of the way in time for Aguilar to
• 33:38
  miss his move off the top row. Tennessee Lee teases a surprise
• 33:41
  next week, and Steve Blackman is out to clear Double J from the
• 33:46
  ring. Matt, you can thank me later,
• 33:50
  but I did the homework. Did you guys figure out what the
• 33:53
  big surprise is? Is it a Rock'n'roll Express guy
• 33:56
  with a lazy eye? Close it is that country band
• 34:00
  Sawyer Brown will be backing up Double J at Unforgiven at the
• 34:04
  next paper, and he announces it on the following week's Raw.
• 34:08
  It is. I was very disappointed that I
• 34:11
  wasted 3 minutes of my life using that.
• 34:18
  So he's being taken away and removed from the locker room
• 34:22
  backstage. Hey, what about Steve Blackman
• 34:25
  you forgot? Glanced over him that he was out
• 34:28
  the clear JJ double J from the ring.
• 34:31
  Poor, forgettable Steve Blackman.
• 34:35
  Austin's coffed, he's taken away and then we get a commercial
• 34:38
  and. Our he's like, this is a rib.
• 34:40
  Yes, I thought that was. Interesting.
• 34:42
  I loved it. I thought those.
• 34:43
  Are things back like in high school that like you heard the
• 34:47
  word rib and heard what it was a little bit, but like we get an
• 34:51
  ad. I thought this was very time
• 34:54
  that we get a quick little blurb about WWF the music.
• 34:58
  Volume 2 is available now at Camelot and the Wall.
• 35:03
  It had a lengthy discussion on the Discord.
• 35:06
  I thought you, yeah, when I watched this.
• 35:08
  I thought you guys watched this before and then brought that up.
• 35:11
  I can't believe that came up on its own.
• 35:13
  I know, absolutely insane. This is like months before I
• 35:18
  started working at Camelot. It's I don't know, I thought it
• 35:22
  was crazy. I also ordered WWF the music
• 35:24
  volume to from WWF the magazine and I think it probably cost me
• 35:28
  like $40 after shipping and handling.
• 35:30
  Yep. Not surprised you guys.
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  Yeah, there's a lot. They're back in 1999, so we're
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  only charging $19.99. For that M night Shalimans on
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  the first episode, right? Yo, that guy came into the mall
• 36:02
  and I were working at American Eagle.
• 36:04
  Who was the other the other little prankster too?
• 36:06
  The little Rascal? The guy looked like he was a kid
• 36:08
  when he was. Old Oh, Andy Milanakis, yeah.
• 36:10
  Yeah, when I worked. At FYE that chubby little
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  Yes, yes. Oh, God.
• 36:23
  All right, we've got Vince out with Sarge, and Briscoe is a
• 36:28
  very somber Vince asking for some respect.
• 36:31
  Felt like he owes the crowd an explanation.
• 36:36
  God, I don't know. Does he even keep going?
• 36:38
  I don't. Know yeah, he said he wanted to
• 36:40
  give Austin a 24 hour cooling off.
• 36:42
  Period. Oh yes, that's what it was.
• 36:43
  That was appropriate. Thank you.
• 36:45
  This felt like serious shit at the time, and it's not.
• 36:48
  It's like this is to go back to where we are in this
• 36:51
  relationship, the Austin McMahon thing, it feels like it's like
• 36:54
  the first of an 80s action movie where it's not like the they get
• 36:59
  crazier as they go on or a horror movie, right?
• 37:01
  Like like the first one's kind of serious and it's like
• 37:04
  straightforward. And then they get there's more
• 37:06
  explosions or more murders, whatever it may be as it goes
• 37:09
  on. And in this relationship you get
• 37:10
  what like, you know, the beer zamboni and and crazy stuff like
• 37:15
  this. But this feels very like
• 37:17
  domestic, like a dispute, you know, between just two guys who
• 37:21
  hate each other's guts. It's fantastic stuff.
• 37:25
  It is backstage. We get Triple H in China.
• 37:28
  They're letting us know that he's got an announcement to
• 37:31
  make. And Jr. has and King King
• 37:34
  actually has teased this throughout throughout the night
• 37:37
  about like Triple H has an announcement, Jr. saying how you
• 37:41
  know, they're, they're addressing the issue with Shawn
• 37:44
  Michaels like they're, they're, they're hooking us in man.
• 37:47
  And again, there's so many stories.
• 37:50
  I, I've said this multiple times on this podcast.
• 37:52
  My favorite part about like Monday night Raws back in the
• 37:56
  day or even still now when they do it is the, the stories that
• 38:00
  they tell throughout an episode from beginning to end.
• 38:03
  And when, and not only when they tell one, but when they tell
• 38:06
  multiple, like we've got the Austin story going on throughout
• 38:09
  this episode of Raw from start to finish.
• 38:12
  Now you're introducing this, this Triple H and DX story
• 38:16
  that's going to go throughout the entire episode.
• 38:18
  And it it's fantastic stuff. I'd say even the like, which is
• 38:24
  not common here, the wrestling is actually decent like too.
• 38:30
  It's not all kind of schmazzy. There's like like it, it's
• 38:33
  wrestling of 1998 in WWF, but it but it's like serviceable.
• 38:37
  I feel like it's very. Small no, I agree.
• 38:39
  It's all really short like yeah, the the lesion of do match 34
• 38:43
  seconds this was but. OK, so this was my argument like
• 38:47
  this, this is what everybody's complaining about like on the
• 38:51
  Discord and on social media and stuff.
• 38:54
  This has been wrestling, especially WWEWWF forever, but
• 38:58
  it's. Now we're getting into the, now
• 39:02
  we're getting into a current product WrestleMania 42
• 39:05
  conversation and this is a Monday Night Raw in the Attitude
• 39:08
  Era where I get it, 4 minute matches.
• 39:10
  All right, fine. It is what it is.
• 39:11
  It's not about the four minute matches.
• 39:13
  You're at WrestleMania, man. Like give us some.
• 39:15
  Yes, yes. No, no, no.
• 39:16
  I'm not talking about WrestleMania.
• 39:18
  People were talking about that before WrestleMania, like
• 39:21
  complaining about Raws being like limited match time.
• 39:24
  It's just like the problem is now that everybody's got a voice
• 39:28
  and back then, not everybody had a voice that that's just my
• 39:31
  opinion. But anyway, back to the action,
• 39:33
  Ken. Shamrock, you could do a two
• 39:35
  hours on this. Oh yeah.
• 39:37
  Ken Shamrock and Steve Blackman facing off against the nation of
• 39:40
  domination. Farooq and the Rock backstage
• 39:43
  Nation is back there Rocks telling Farooq he appreciates
• 39:47
  him and that he's thankful for him and everything he's done
• 39:50
  that the nation will be the strongest it's ever been.
• 39:52
  It's. Really blowing smoke in his ass.
• 39:56
  It's it's fantastic foreshadowing this whole thing
• 40:00
  like Rock tells him what is about to happen and you don't
• 40:05
  see it coming. You don't you don't like you see
• 40:08
  it coming. We see it becoming because we
• 40:11
  know what's happening. But like like you said, he's
• 40:14
  blowing smoke up his ass and. I don't know man, you buy into
• 40:18
  everything he's telling. Him back there I actually bought
• 40:20
  into a little even though I've seen this.
• 40:22
  Yeah, so the action starts off Rock gives Farouk chances to tag
• 40:26
  him out, but the. Rock plays it off.
• 40:28
  Keep in mind this is the C story probably too on the show, right?
• 40:31
  Like, Oh yeah, down the line a bit, sorry.
• 40:34
  No. So Rock is giving Farouk chances
• 40:37
  to tag him in and then every time.
• 40:39
  Like disappointed you didn't introduce that we are now in a
• 40:43
  new show. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 40:46
  It felt like they were like slowly getting away from it.
• 40:48
  So that's actually, I think that's a good point because on
• 40:53
  the previous two raws that we covered before Mania back in
• 40:56
  what, January and March, I think they made it much more of an
• 41:00
  important thing to separate the two hours.
• 41:03
  Yeah. Whereas now it feels like
• 41:04
  they're trying to like slowly get.
• 41:06
  I don't think it's at a perfect. Hour break either.
• 41:09
  No, it didn't feel like that. It's longer.
• 41:11
  It didn't feel like that. All right, can I talk to you?
• 41:15
  Hold on. I'm fucking.
• 41:17
  Oh, this is. Good.
• 41:17
  I'm sorry. Up in my fist here, man.
• 41:21
  We got another show to go. Yeah, we, I love, I wish they
• 41:24
  said we've got another. Hour to go would.
• 41:27
  Be we've got another hour to go there.
• 41:29
  No, no, no. And then they, yeah, I think
• 41:33
  that is one of the best songs I've ever heard in my entire
• 41:35
  life. Welcome to the war Zone.
• 41:38
  I want to karaoke that with you guys.
• 41:40
  Oh. Hell yeah.
• 41:43
  I like that he'd make that happen like karaoke.
• 41:44
  That much, but I can do that. No, just that song.
• 41:47
  That's it. He's Frank's big speaker and
• 41:49
  your karaoke jams and we're good to go.
• 41:52
  And if you're bashful, Nick, you could just do the yeah part.
• 41:55
  Oh yeah. That's.
• 41:56
  When you do the yeah. He's goddamn microphone.
• 42:01
  Now you can go on with the bash all right, giving him all these
• 42:04
  chances to tag in. He doesn't do.
• 42:06
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 42:07
  He doesn't do. It black man looking like Ryu
• 42:09
  Ryu sorry from Street Fighter 2. It's, it's, it's fucking Ryu all
• 42:14
  right as far as I'm concerned. All right, getting off the.
• 42:20
  Ryu all right, yeah, So Rock walks away as Shamrock and Black
• 42:24
  Men win the match, leaving Farooq alone in the ring.
• 42:27
  Farooq gets on the mic, calls Rocky to come out for an ass
• 42:30
  whooping. Rock comes out to the ring, the
• 42:32
  2GO nose to nose as the rest of the nation come in.
• 42:36
  The two then go at it again. Nation pulls them apart.
• 42:40
  Officials clear the rock from the ring.
• 42:42
  They leave as the nation talks Farouk down.
• 42:45
  Then out of nowhere, as he finally looks like he's calmed
• 42:47
  down, Mark Henry Comma and D Lo both take out and attack Farouk.
• 42:53
  Rock says you. Got to mention the eyebrow.
• 42:56
  Oh yeah, sorry. Rock signals an iconic eyebrow
• 43:00
  on the ramp where he's halfway on.
• 43:03
  Gives that eyebrow. And then those three guys
• 43:06
  attacked the. Spotlights on them.
• 43:08
  The camera is zoomed in. Oh, it's it's Matt.
• 43:11
  Matt mentioned it last episode with that iconic shot of Stone
• 43:16
  Cold walking out at WrestleMania 14.
• 43:18
  This shot of Rock raising that eyebrow is pretty iconic.
• 43:22
  It's up there. This is where I wrote in my
• 43:25
  notes and we're not into like the juiciest stuff yet probably,
• 43:28
  but I wrote this is I'd argue that this is better than
• 43:30
  WrestleMania this raw and I like that WrestleMania.
• 43:33
  I like that WrestleMania, but it is just over it.
• 43:36
  But this is like a perfect Raw, like it feels like yes.
• 43:38
  Well, WrestleMania didn't have Kirkin.
• 43:42
  It did not have Kirkin. Rock says Farook is out and the
• 43:45
  rock is the ruler of the nation. And then I think he yells, take
• 43:48
  that back to Haiti. Yeah, I have the clip.
• 43:51
  Let's take a listen. Don't ever want you to think
• 43:53
  that you were ever the leader of the rock, because the rock is
• 43:56
  not only now the leader of the nation of domination, he's the
• 44:00
  ruler of the nation of domination.
• 44:02
  And before I leave, let me leave you with something, another kick
• 44:08
  to pack that to Haiti, where you come from.
• 44:13
  I'm going. To have to verify that as
• 44:16
  Haitian, I don't think he is. I didn't think unless he was
• 44:18
  referencing like was Farooq the character build from Haiti?
• 44:23
  Like the the the blue gear with the chin strap with Sunny back
• 44:27
  in the day. He first debuted that like
• 44:30
  cornball one. Yeah, that could, that could be.
• 44:33
  That's the only thing I could think of.
• 44:35
  Interesting. Yeah, sorry.
• 44:39
  Ron Simmons is from Georgia. Just.
• 44:42
  For the for the record, we get a break and then a recap of the
• 44:46
  nation and turning on Farouk and then all of a sudden break it
• 44:50
  down and Triple H and China are out.
• 44:55
  Jr. keeps talking about a rift in DX, so he's like kind of,
• 44:59
  he's obviously he's teasing this whole thing.
• 45:01
  We know Sheryl is not there. He's been a gossip.
• 45:04
  A lot can happen in 24 hours and Triple H goes on this whole
• 45:10
  rant. I must have been I must have
• 45:11
  asked him 1000 times. Is he locked in?
• 45:13
  Is he is he with us? Are you sure as Triple H is
• 45:18
  alluding to him asking Sean this?
• 45:20
  Don't worry kid, I got it covered.
• 45:22
  Well it this that line, the next line is the most iconic 1 of
• 45:26
  this raw. Please play it.
• 45:29
  This is the genesis of D Generation X.
• 45:37
  Tonight live in front of the world, I form the DX Army.
• 45:43
  An army to take care of business that should have been taken care
• 45:48
  of right from the start. It's it's so good.
• 45:56
  And then he, you know, you dropped well, you dropped the
• 45:59
  ball. Don't worry HBK cause Triple H
• 46:02
  picked it up. I remember hearing that live and
• 46:05
  being like, yeah. That one's like serious this.
• 46:10
  Was electric live like I don't know we you can't overstay that
• 46:13
  enough. This was like a a big deal
• 46:15
  watching. This bombshell I remember being.
• 46:17
  Like on the edge of my seat with like goosebumps like this is
• 46:20
  this was as good as it got back then with guys jumping across
• 46:23
  and this felt like a shot across the bow to like.
• 46:26
  Oh wow, this never happened. Norway, we're taking one of them
• 46:30
  back. Right, yeah, this this again.
• 46:32
  This never happened our way. It was always going to WCW and
• 46:37
  correct me if it were wrong. We knew that we knew this Damn
• 46:40
  right. We're fucking fed heads here.
• 46:42
  All right, WCW all right, exactly.
• 46:46
  All right. I got no shame in saying it.
• 46:49
  Those dim lights on TBS starting at weird times like six O 5
• 46:55
  superstation. Cornball.
• 46:56
  There's something romantic about it, but that's OK.
• 46:58
  No, there is. Now there is, but back then I
• 47:01
  could care less. I thought it was pretty smart,
• 47:04
  but anyway, I'm getting off topic.
• 47:06
  We didn't even talk about who we're talking about right now.
• 47:09
  So that was my. Tonight I formed the DX Army to
• 47:12
  take care of business. When you start an army, the
• 47:14
  first Do you have this clip? No, I don't.
• 47:17
  OK so when you start an army, the first thing you do is look
• 47:20
  to your blood. You look to your friends, you
• 47:21
  look to the Click. DX Music hits as Xbox, who
• 47:25
  doesn't even have a name, walks out.
• 47:27
  No. They don't mention the name
• 47:29
  entirely throughout the entire night.
• 47:31
  Kid. Yeah, yeah, I think Jr. calls
• 47:33
  him Kid. Kid throughout the entire kid.
• 47:36
  Yeah, the kid. The kid.
• 47:37
  That's like his default name, yeah.
• 47:40
  And. I love though that.
• 47:42
  Well, look who's back. I love that Triple H comes in
• 47:46
  with that old Scott Hall point. The two like the one hand over
• 47:50
  the one hand below, and you're like, holy shit, is it going to
• 47:52
  be Scott Hall? Obviously we know now, but in
• 47:54
  the moment you're like, oh shit, is it going to be Scott Hall?
• 47:56
  And it turns out to be 6. There's actually a sign in the
• 47:59
  crowd that says 6 is D, Generation X's favorite number
• 48:05
  or lucky number or something. I definitely read to to that
• 48:08
  point. We we did know he was coming.
• 48:11
  I I, I feel like we must been reading rajawwwf.com.
• 48:14
  Shout out to Raja wherever you are.
• 48:16
  Yeah. I don't know what it was we were
• 48:17
  reading back then in 98, but it we.
• 48:20
  Were on like AOL escape navigator or something?
• 48:23
  Yeah, we're still using dial up man.
• 48:25
  We had an idea though that he was coming.
• 48:27
  Definitely, definitely. And the the crowd seems
• 48:30
  legitimately stunned at this point.
• 48:32
  Like it it's they're almost silent.
• 48:35
  Not not silent, I should say, but they're.
• 48:37
  Very quiet. Comparison.
• 48:39
  No, it's not. I thought it was the only one.
• 48:42
  I thought it. Was going to be bigger.
• 48:45
  I remember in my head being huge.
• 48:47
  I bet you that part of it though, is because they played
• 48:49
  the D generation X music and it wasn't a specific wrestlers
• 48:53
  music. So I wonder if it was like in
• 48:55
  waves too of like, oh, who is the DX music that's playing?
• 48:58
  And then you got to like look around the big 6 foot eight guy
• 49:01
  that's sitting in front of you and you got to see and see who's
• 49:03
  at the ring it. Was even weird though the 123
• 49:06
  kids music. Hit 12.
• 49:11
  I'd be kind into it though. And then?
• 49:13
  This this though, to talk to Matt's point about the point he
• 49:16
  does like the just got a whole point.
• 49:18
  There's so much like shoot style on this, which is like why it
• 49:21
  was so thrilling yes back then, you know like this, this feels.
• 49:26
  Real like it's about to get more real.
• 49:28
  Yeah, the things that Sean Waltman says.
• 49:31
  Oh, he gets sued. Back then, when we are.
• 49:34
  When we were in high school, these are like words that you
• 49:37
  never heard. On the.
• 49:39
  Television and I it's. Long, but we're going to listen
• 49:42
  to it. It's worth it.
• 49:43
  I got a little some something I got to get off my chest right
• 49:47
  now. Oh, I heard Hulk Hogan come out
• 49:56
  on television saying I couldn't cut the mustard.
• 50:01
  Well, Hulk Hogan, you suck, pal. So I don't think you have any
• 50:10
  room to talk about anybody cutting any kind of muscle.
• 50:16
  And Hulk, I got, I got some more advice for you.
• 50:21
  You better not stop short or Eric Bischoff will go so far up
• 50:26
  your ass he'll know what you had for breakfast.
• 50:32
  Yeah, King, always with a. Guy, again, I'm not tired of
• 50:36
  King at this point in wrestling. Like I still eat it up.
• 50:39
  Is Waltman guessed he's like huffing and puffing and puffing.
• 50:43
  Oh yeah. Oh, it's incredible.
• 50:45
  I love he knows how much trouble he's going to be in too.
• 50:48
  I like that he does get better as he goes on because at first
• 50:51
  he's like, well, Hogan, you suck.
• 50:54
  Really. Here we go.
• 50:56
  You've been waiting all the time.
• 50:58
  This promo has to be the peak of.
• 51:01
  You shouldn't be talking about mustard terrier.
• 51:03
  Right. Like, I mean, this is his most
• 51:06
  iconic moment. Like if you think Sean Waltman,
• 51:09
  like, to me, this is one of the top things that I think of when
• 51:14
  I think of, yeah, 123 kids, 6X Pock.
• 51:17
  Maybe the razor stuff I think. Yes, yeah, that's a good point.
• 51:21
  I'm a huge. X Factor, Stan.
• 51:25
  Well, yeah, we were talking about that with Tori, right?
• 51:27
  Is she in there? Yeah, Tori, just incredible.
• 51:31
  Maybe we'll get there. Now I love this at the time, but
• 51:35
  it's insane how fast, how fast the the babyface DX era start
• 51:42
  like it's completely takes over right here, right now in this
• 51:46
  moment, like they are all in, whereas last night they hated
• 51:50
  them. And to me that's that's the
• 51:54
  coolest part about wrestling. I wonder like.
• 51:56
  I wonder if Austin being carried off in cuffs and you not knowing
• 52:00
  what's going to happen with Austin and he's kind of out of
• 52:02
  sight, out of mind, like they just crown this new champion and
• 52:05
  then he's gone and now the focus is on Triple H and the new
• 52:09
  Degeneration X, like, right. I wonder if that was like a
• 52:12
  really stroke of genius from Vince here.
• 52:14
  So I talked about this on our last episode.
• 52:17
  How like they they had nobody, they were losing their biggest
• 52:22
  heel and Sean, and that's why they were kind of trying to
• 52:25
  elevate Triple H and The Rock, right?
• 52:28
  They were still in that intercontinental title picture,
• 52:32
  but like now you're trying to elevate them into heels.
• 52:36
  And this crowd is going to do the same thing with them that
• 52:40
  they did with Trip with Austin, right?
• 52:42
  They it's the Attitude Era. They like the the guy that hates
• 52:46
  authority. And you know, it's an
• 52:48
  interesting thing and I think they handle everything really
• 52:51
  well in the coming time with those three guys.
• 52:54
  Don't you feel bad for Shawn Michaels in a way though, 'cause
• 52:56
  like as soon as he leaves, that's real.
• 52:58
  This is when it lift off. This is like the spaceship
• 53:01
  taking off. Like, and no disrespect to what
• 53:03
  comes before, it's all building up.
• 53:05
  That's like the smoke shooting out.
• 53:07
  But this is like WWF is ascended at this point.
• 53:10
  It's about to become a cultural phenomenon and and Sean really
• 53:13
  isn't there for any of that. Like no, that's arguably like
• 53:17
  the only thing comparable to Rock and wrestling, if not more.
• 53:20
  Popular right? That's the that's the story of
• 53:22
  Sean's career, especially early on, like he misses out on that
• 53:26
  and then he misses out on this like it's it's wild.
• 53:29
  Think about like. His no TV got cover for him.
• 53:31
  No, nothing. You know he.
• 53:33
  Got nothing magazine. It's all.
• 53:35
  Right. Yeah, Marty's got.
• 53:38
  It and it's. Hanging in Marty's.
• 53:41
  Office. Marty's Menagerie.
• 53:44
  True story. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll save it.
• 53:47
  I'll save it for a little end of the night.
• 53:50
  But Sable bomb, in case you guys were wondering that first of
• 53:53
  all, that we, I think we talked about that segment longer than
• 53:57
  it actually lasted. I think I felt like it was very
• 54:00
  quick, which I did not remember it being.
• 54:03
  Triple H, as it was. And yeah, yeah, you know what's
• 54:05
  mercifully, Triple H passes the mic immediately.
• 54:08
  Yes, Sean Waltman, which is not very Triple H of him, who's also
• 54:12
  in his He looks like the Beauty and the Beast from TV Phase, The
• 54:16
  very lion. Looking thing, yeah.
• 54:19
  That that's a hair. Yeah, the Fabio kind of look,
• 54:21
  I'm not a fan, but yeah, no, it's thank you Trips for passing
• 54:25
  the mic and getting down to business because they were
• 54:27
  waiting for like, we're waiting to hear what he has to say.
• 54:29
  Oh yeah. About WCW.
• 54:32
  Sable Bomb is the Bop it slam of the week, in case you were
• 54:34
  wondering. I was really hoping that.
• 54:36
  Something was going to bring a bop it, but I guess not.
• 54:39
  Oh, I love that thing. It's.
• 54:41
  Not the same thing as skip it, right?
• 54:43
  No different the. Thing you know.
• 54:45
  It's like you got to press the button, pop it, twist the thing
• 54:47
  like, pull it, pop it. Vaguely, now that my sister's
• 54:51
  had it. OK, Yeah, you.
• 54:52
  Remember, it tells you what what it wants you to do and you got
• 54:55
  to. Do it, twist it, bop it.
• 54:57
  Sort of like a Simon in a way, but different.
• 54:59
  Yeah, twisting. I could picture it now.
• 55:01
  I did see. This next part after the Sable
• 55:04
  boppet of the week or whatever you want to call it, is was to
• 55:09
  me the most the thing the the the biggest thing that happened
• 55:13
  on this raw that I did not even remember happening.
• 55:16
  And it's the the debut and backstage vignette of Val Venus.
• 55:21
  Now I I know on one of the raws I mentioned how he was on in a
• 55:27
  dark match right? And I couldn't remember when he
• 55:31
  debuted, but this is them launching Val Venus.
• 55:34
  It's him in bed and he's topless.
• 55:37
  He's covered with his disgusting sheets and.
• 55:41
  I got he's got some paintings behind him. 1 is a tiger and the
• 55:44
  other appears to be a couple of hound dogs I think.
• 55:48
  He's watching his new movie, The preview of Live Hard When I.
• 55:53
  They could have gone harder with that.
• 55:55
  I was like, what are they going to say?
• 55:57
  And it like it it it, it peaks and then it continues to go.
• 56:01
  And two minutes too long at least.
• 56:03
  Yeah, Oh my God. Val, stop.
• 56:05
  And keep in mind, there's moaning noises going on
• 56:08
  throughout the entirety of this promo.
• 56:11
  Vignette. Vignette I guess.
• 56:13
  When I penetrate the WWF, all the ladies will squeal.
• 56:19
  Val Venus is coming, it says on our screen.
• 56:23
  But as absurd as this is, like at the time, this promo on the
• 56:28
  heels of XPOC coming back, it's like, oh man, as AWF fan, you're
• 56:33
  like, yes, we're develop, developing people.
• 56:36
  It's like we're back. We're back.
• 56:37
  Like we're still back. Like it was like it felt like,
• 56:41
  like I said before, we're like we're on the rise.
• 56:42
  Like, oh man, there's like, this is so fresh.
• 56:45
  It's new. It's awesome, Yeah.
• 56:47
  A new era? Yeah, that's a big deal.
• 56:50
  It's crazy. This whole episode is just like
• 56:52
  a whole new book like and you get like so many chapters like
• 56:56
  already. It's amazing.
• 56:57
  Do we close the book of Sean? And now here we are, opening
• 57:01
  this brand new book. It's Wild Book of Austin.
• 57:04
  Next up, I feel like we've been watched Imagine forever or
• 57:10
  talked about one, but we've got Mark Marrow obviously with Sable
• 57:13
  facing back against come meet you Noku.
• 57:16
  Thank you. These Sable pots is.
• 57:19
  Wild. They pipe that in.
• 57:21
  They pipe that in. She might have a bigger pop in
• 57:24
  Austin. Go go back to that.
• 57:26
  She looks red hot. Like we said that the hair pull
• 57:30
  back version of Sable is incredible, but like the pop is
• 57:34
  so loud for her and they but but kudos to Mark Marrow, man, He he
• 57:40
  yeah, I've never been a Marc Murrow fan, but like the way he
• 57:44
  sells it, like him walking out first all like jovial and
• 57:47
  smiling and like he he's acting like he thinks the pop is for
• 57:51
  him when it's really sable. But they get down to the ring.
• 57:55
  Yeah, this is like the best he is in.
• 57:58
  Oh yeah. Pete, Matt, Matt, you got you
• 58:01
  got audio for for the next part or I could do my best Luna.
• 58:06
  I think you need to do your best to start us off because I have
• 58:09
  the end of the Luna at all beginning because it's just her
• 58:13
  coming out and saying. Oh man, just special back.
• 58:22
  Like I can't. I can't even it.
• 58:24
  Hurts my vocal cords to like, listen to you.
• 58:26
  And mind you, mind you, we, I don't know if we've talked about
• 58:30
  this in the past, this is like a slightly different version of
• 58:33
  Luna. This poor woman is probably
• 58:35
  trying so hard to fit in. Like she's got less clothing on
• 58:41
  than she did at WrestleMania 9. Her friends are a little bigger
• 58:48
  and like, I don't know, like we never heard her speak back then
• 58:53
  like when? During the Bam Bam era.
• 58:55
  Got the crazy hair? It's when you think about it,
• 58:58
  Luna was around for a long time. She's like she.
• 59:03
  Debuts at WrestleMania 9, right? I feel like they never like
• 59:07
  make. Sorry, Matt.
• 59:09
  She feels like she's uncomfortable in her own skin at
• 59:11
  the top of the ramp too, though. Like she's like kind of trying
• 59:14
  to cover herself up, specifically her stomach.
• 59:17
  And it just, I don't know it. She's got like a vest on, I
• 59:19
  think. Yeah, you.
• 59:20
  Feel bad. I don't know.
• 59:21
  I feel like that's maybe she's, I don't know.
• 59:23
  I think she's that good that she's like leaning into that.
• 59:26
  Yeah, I think she's like twitchy, like she's kind of like
• 59:29
  the, the hand stuff. I, I don't know, I think that's
• 59:31
  all. Yeah, she's I.
• 59:32
  Mean she's wrestling like, you know, serious legacy family.
• 59:37
  Right. Yeah, one of the royal families.
• 59:39
  If yeah, What does Cody's theme say?
• 59:44
  Because she's I, I, I almost feel like they did her
• 59:46
  disservice, like you could she is, she is a big devil.
• 59:49
  Like she's scary. Like, like.
• 59:51
  She should have been there like a mega heel.
• 59:53
  Yep. Yes.
• 59:54
  But like you pair with gold dust, but again, like, what do
• 59:58
  you I I don't know. What was saying?
• 1:00:00
  Was not the way it is. No, you're putting her with
• 1:00:02
  Sable because it she's the antithesis of Sable, first and
• 1:00:05
  foremost. But second of all, Vince
• 1:00:07
  obviously trusts her. Vince, that's.
• 1:00:09
  What I was going to say, yeah. Understands that Luna is going
• 1:00:11
  to do the right thing. AB going to take care of Sable.
• 1:00:14
  C going to make Sable look like 1,000,000 bucks even though
• 1:00:17
  she's probably about $0.03 worth of you know.
• 1:00:20
  And D She's also the only other female like on the roster.
• 1:00:24
  That yes, she's the default like villain, right?
• 1:00:27
  Yeah, yeah. But Kuda Luna does not get
• 1:00:30
  enough credit and I don't know if she's in the Hall of Fame or
• 1:00:32
  not. And I know the Hall of Fame is a
• 1:00:34
  complete and absolute joke. But.
• 1:00:36
  Like she's a name that should be in the Hall of Fame and I'm
• 1:00:39
  sorry for adding. That we were praising the match
• 1:00:41
  at WrestleMania and it's a lot of it's her like, Oh yeah,
• 1:00:43
  doesn't know what she's doing. Come on.
• 1:00:45
  No, no. But hey, to her, to Sable's
• 1:00:48
  credit, man, she's, she's red hot.
• 1:00:51
  Like I mean Sable might be more more over than sunny ever was.
• 1:00:58
  Like sunny started it but sable is like.
• 1:01:01
  I think so. The peak first yeah, definitely
• 1:01:04
  true. I don't get it, but it's.
• 1:01:05
  True, I don't right, I agree. Sunny was more of the Internet
• 1:01:09
  over and then Sable was the. Crowd, Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  On in person live crowd, Yeah. So Luna Vashon was inducted into
• 1:01:19
  the WWE Hall of Fame Legacy Wing in 2019.
• 1:01:22
  Legacy Wing, Stupid. What is that?
• 1:01:25
  Like the back alley? Like the, you know, Sid's back
• 1:01:27
  there and Luna. Skinny, probably.
• 1:01:30
  Do you do you have the audio, the rest of Luna's audio?
• 1:01:33
  Because I as much as I can, sit here and destroy my vocal cords.
• 1:01:38
  I kind of wanted to hear you try, but.
• 1:01:41
  You want me to? I don't want.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah. The the fact that she drops what
• 1:01:44
  she says. I think it's just like.
• 1:01:52
  Sable, Miss Sable. I am going to humiliate and
• 1:01:58
  embarrass you because I am going to strip you down to that bra
• 1:02:11
  and it's your panties, bra, panties.
• 1:02:15
  That is, if you wear bras and panties.
• 1:02:26
  What? Whoa, whoa, Herod just says.
• 1:02:28
  I mean, just says whoa and everything.
• 1:02:31
  We did a bad job of kind of introducing this.
• 1:02:33
  She comes out and demands A rematch and that rematch will be
• 1:02:37
  an evening gown match and the winner will be the one that is
• 1:02:40
  wearing the most clothes so. That Unforgiven, by the way.
• 1:02:45
  That unforgiven which is the next pay-per-view in your
• 1:02:47
  unforgiven in your house. I think they tried to squeeze.
• 1:02:49
  In I think they ditched it at that point.
• 1:02:51
  They eventually ditched it. One of the first ones here.
• 1:02:54
  Times. But yeah, this was setting up
• 1:02:57
  the next pay-per-view where we were going to get Luna and Sable
• 1:03:00
  in an evening gown match. Dude, when you think about the
• 1:03:05
  trajectory of stable, right, she's we said she's red hot
• 1:03:09
  right now, unforgiven. She's going to get an evening
• 1:03:12
  gown match. Then what is it fully loaded,
• 1:03:15
  which is before SummerSlam, which is the infamous bikini
• 1:03:18
  like handprints on her boobs. Like like, Can you imagine?
• 1:03:23
  Like Vince had to have had all of this like out there, like
• 1:03:27
  Sable, This is our plan for you. Are you comfortable with this?
• 1:03:30
  Whether you're not like this is what you're going to go do.
• 1:03:33
  She's right there with Austin and DX.
• 1:03:37
  Whoever, Undertaker. Oh yeah, As like part of the
• 1:03:40
  cultural phenomenon. It's like.
• 1:03:42
  Yes. These people knew who she was.
• 1:03:44
  And like everybody, everybody talks about when you talk about
• 1:03:48
  women in wrestling, right? You talk obviously like Meyla
• 1:03:52
  and Mae Young and Moolah back in the day.
• 1:03:56
  Then you talk about Wendy Richter.
• 1:03:57
  Then you talk about Elizabeth and like Elizabeth being like
• 1:04:00
  beautiful and like everybody always puts her on like they're,
• 1:04:03
  she's the most beautiful, like woman in wrestling.
• 1:04:07
  But like, it's really like Elizabeth and then the next one
• 1:04:10
  is sunny and then it like and that's a huge gap.
• 1:04:14
  That is a big gap or. Or like it felt like a huge gap
• 1:04:17
  as a kid. You get Sherry in there, but
• 1:04:19
  Sherry like, winds down too at some point, yeah.
• 1:04:22
  She's like, but then and then it's like it, it's Sunny Sable
• 1:04:27
  and then it takes off like the what they what those two Sunny
• 1:04:31
  and Sable do for? Yeah, they're the OG's there.
• 1:04:36
  Yeah, China and the. Usher and then China, yes.
• 1:04:40
  The US win the Playboy Playmate era, if you will.
• 1:04:43
  Yeah. But really, like when you think
• 1:04:44
  about it, Luna, like Luna could have filled that China role in a
• 1:04:47
  way. Like you know, it's similar.
• 1:04:49
  To character imagine Luna instead of China and DX would be
• 1:04:53
  interesting. Yeah, I think you could still do
• 1:04:55
  it. Yeah.
• 1:04:56
  Oh, yeah, He was good. Like no, like China is like
• 1:04:59
  perfect for them. Yeah, I don't know if Triple H
• 1:05:01
  would have still gotten down with that, but you know.
• 1:05:04
  Anyway. Mark Merrill hits the TKO and
• 1:05:08
  Taka wins and throws them around like a rag doll.
• 1:05:11
  And then we get, as Jr. puts it, 3 Oriental men are here
• 1:05:16
  attacking Taka. They are.
• 1:05:19
  Yikes, Yikes. Who are these 3 Oriental man?
• 1:05:23
  Well, one of them, mind you, is Dick Togo.
• 1:05:25
  Yes, quietly, Dick Togo has come back to the Extra Cooler show.
• 1:05:32
  I'm waiting for this. Finally.
• 1:05:34
  I don't have anything, I don't have any notes.
• 1:05:36
  I just wanted to say Dick toko all.
• 1:05:38
  Right, let's move on midnight, because we've got a lot left.
• 1:05:42
  Midnight Express. Bodacious, Bart.
• 1:05:45
  Is that a new Chappelle Owens song?
• 1:05:48
  With Jim Cornette defeat the Headbangers to win the N.W.A
• 1:05:53
  World Tag Team Champions in 4 minutes and 2 seconds.
• 1:05:57
  Remember earlier in the episode where I said that there's
• 1:05:59
  nothing more that would check me out of an episode than Jeff
• 1:06:02
  Jarrett? I stand corrected.
• 1:06:04
  It is Jim Cornette. That is what, As soon as he
• 1:06:07
  comes onto the screen and is the second second you hear his
• 1:06:11
  voice, I just shut down and I start paying attention to
• 1:06:14
  someone else. Wait, so the weirdest thing is
• 1:06:16
  I'm wondering if something got chopped because I don't know if
• 1:06:19
  you picked up on this. We get no introductions for
• 1:06:21
  either of these teams. You had to know it's for this
• 1:06:23
  belt either if you. Like, no, we come back from a
• 1:06:26
  commercial and all you hear is Jim Cornette saying Dan the B
• 1:06:30
  Severn didn't really pick up on that.
• 1:06:33
  It's like it's no, it's we come off the commercial, there's
• 1:06:36
  nothing and just Dan the B Severn in his obnoxious voice.
• 1:06:41
  And then we get Severn walking down in a suit.
• 1:06:43
  He's the N.W.A champion at the time.
• 1:06:45
  King tells us mid match again that DX is going to add another
• 1:06:49
  member in the middle of this match.
• 1:06:51
  It's so goddamn boring that he. Has to let.
• 1:06:54
  Us know this. I don't know this.
• 1:06:56
  I I did not pay any attention. Midnight Express wins the match,
• 1:07:01
  wins the titles. Severin comes in, destroys both
• 1:07:04
  headbangers in his Express guy. No.
• 1:07:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  No, this is Matt, says Cornett Midnight Express.
• 1:07:12
  I'm like, oh Jesus, here you go, this guy.
• 1:07:15
  But it's to the Cornett point. He just doesn't belong in this
• 1:07:19
  era right here. And neither does Jeff Jarrett
• 1:07:21
  ask. He doesn't last long with the
• 1:07:23
  cornett old. School Jarrett Jarrett has to
• 1:07:25
  evolve. Cornett does not last long.
• 1:07:28
  And at least Jeff Jarrett evolves like you said, but
• 1:07:32
  Cornett does not so. How old do you think Dan?
• 1:07:35
  How old do you think Dan Severin is here?
• 1:07:38
  I bet you he's very young the way he looks.
• 1:07:40
  He's in his. 34. I was going to say 30s,
• 1:07:45
  thirties, 8. 29 Matt's way off. Actually, he's 19 years old.
• 1:07:50
  Here. Oh shit.
• 1:07:53
  No, he's. He's 39, about to be 40.
• 1:07:57
  Wow. I was close.
• 1:07:58
  That's. Older than I would have thought
• 1:08:00
  back then. That's like that's old.
• 1:08:02
  I know that's what I was thinking.
• 1:08:03
  I was like. When you look at him, you're
• 1:08:04
  like that looks like a 40 year old man.
• 1:08:06
  But you know that like that's probably 30 back then.
• 1:08:08
  But no, right, He's he's a 40 year old man.
• 1:08:11
  Accurate. I kind of like them.
• 1:08:13
  He had good music. Will you be awesome?
• 1:08:16
  Awesome. Music.
• 1:08:17
  He's no Dick Togo, but I'd say yeah, I do like him.
• 1:08:21
  He murders the headbangers too, by the way.
• 1:08:23
  He does murder them, yes. Destroys them, twists them up.
• 1:08:26
  He stretches. Them basically and we have to
• 1:08:28
  reference. Like he was legit.
• 1:08:29
  Jim Cornette references Ken Shamrock, and then they defend
• 1:08:32
  Ken Shamrock. It's just, it's nonsense.
• 1:08:36
  I I had I had a mustache. They tend to be 776767 a Helen.
• 1:08:47
  Helen called it the the Sketchy Wine Tickler.
• 1:08:58
  Oh my. How?
• 1:09:03
  How am I supposed to regroup? I love them, I don't understand
• 1:09:08
  them. At all.
• 1:09:14
  I love when Nick gets thrown off and it's maybe my favorite
• 1:09:17
  thing. Jr. has Stone Cold online with
• 1:09:20
  his one call from jail and he's blabbering about coming for
• 1:09:24
  Vince. I think that's pretty damn
• 1:09:26
  creative. It is.
• 1:09:27
  Oh, it's fantastic. Awesome.
• 1:09:29
  How does he Who does he call the commentary team?
• 1:09:31
  Is that right? I.
• 1:09:32
  Want to call with Jim Ross at the broadcast booth.
• 1:09:35
  Did they do the? One, was it this the 1800
• 1:09:37
  collector, right, right. Like.
• 1:09:39
  Patchmate bro to Jr. It's my voice there, sorry.
• 1:09:43
  Leave your name at the peeps. Here is Stone Cold Steve Austin,
• 1:09:48
  like his full full name, The. Craziest part is like you're
• 1:09:52
  watching this raw. I don't know about you guys, but
• 1:09:54
  I'm like I I I'm like I'm I'm to this point and I'm like, OK,
• 1:09:58
  we've hit everything now, like I forgot about so many points in
• 1:10:02
  this. You know, whether it was I'm not
• 1:10:05
  going to lie, I forgot about the rock, you know, and turning on
• 1:10:08
  Farook and dumping him from the nation.
• 1:10:11
  I remember to a little bit of the Austin stuff, but not in
• 1:10:13
  depth. I remembered all of the Triple H
• 1:10:15
  stuff and Sean Waltman. But then the next part is like,
• 1:10:19
  you're like, in my head, I'm like, they've hit everything.
• 1:10:22
  They've hit absolutely everything.
• 1:10:23
  They have nothing more to hit. And then boom, we get Kane and
• 1:10:26
  Paul Bearer out. And maybe because we hated that
• 1:10:30
  match a little bit. We.
• 1:10:32
  Blacked this out. What?
• 1:10:33
  I said speak for yourself, pal. You're just, he is.
• 1:10:37
  Matt is just, you know, really just preaching to the to the
• 1:10:42
  Internet fans out there who love Undertaker and Kane.
• 1:10:46
  And I'm, I don't know, man, I feel like you're kind of selling
• 1:10:48
  out a little. And now Mr. Bret Hart's a heel
• 1:10:50
  and you're just like keeping one segment of the fan base happy
• 1:10:54
  right now. I see what you're doing.
• 1:10:55
  Nope, that Bret Hart piece is all mine.
• 1:10:57
  I take a lot of heat for that. So it's basically Paul Bearer
• 1:11:02
  blabbering and he's setting up the next match because, you
• 1:11:05
  know, as we saw at WrestleMania, the feud is far from over and
• 1:11:10
  he's telling he's going on. It's like a classic Pallbearer.
• 1:11:14
  He's almost entering this like Jim Cornette phase where he's
• 1:11:18
  just blabbering and blabbering for an excessive amount of time.
• 1:11:22
  He's telling us how he had a dream of a wrestling match with
• 1:11:25
  the ring surrounded by fire, with Cain all alone in the
• 1:11:28
  middle of the ring. And essentially it leads to
• 1:11:31
  Pallbearer challenging the Underticker to an Inferno match,
• 1:11:35
  which is a whole nother story in itself.
• 1:11:39
  The the winner has to light its opponent on fire.
• 1:11:43
  Paul Bear does a very interesting job explaining that.
• 1:11:46
  I am not interested in watching that at all.
• 1:11:51
  Well, I think the real main reason for them shutting the
• 1:11:54
  lights off and being able to bring out Kane and Paul Bearer
• 1:11:58
  is because they're setting up the Big Blue cage and it takes a
• 1:12:02
  lot of manpower to do this. So that's what's happening in
• 1:12:06
  the ring and they still shut the lights off.
• 1:12:08
  Imagine being one of the the guys, Oh my God referees at this
• 1:12:11
  point that are scaling this cage to try to like zip tie it
• 1:12:14
  together. Dark in the dark now.
• 1:12:16
  In the dark and we come back from commercial and they're
• 1:12:19
  still tightening that thing like they're.
• 1:12:21
  Still. Attaching it.
• 1:12:22
  They're still figuring it out, and then the entrances start to
• 1:12:25
  happen. Chainsaw.
• 1:12:27
  And Cactus Jack, it's just like if you put a ladder up and had
• 1:12:29
  to go on your roof right now. But like, no, I'm like, no, no
• 1:12:33
  way. So we, OK, so we didn't
• 1:12:36
  reference this. And Matt, you said you picked up
• 1:12:38
  on it earlier in the commentary. Yes, so.
• 1:12:40
  Jr. Titles.
• 1:12:42
  Jr. and King are talking about the night in the very beginning
• 1:12:45
  of the night, and they're talking about and they introduce
• 1:12:48
  the fact that the New Age Outlaws are essentially refuting
• 1:12:54
  the fact that they lost because Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie
• 1:12:58
  put them in the wrong dumpster. So if you recall, go back,
• 1:13:02
  listen to the last episode of WrestleMania 14 and they got
• 1:13:07
  dumped into a dumpster in the back of the arena, not the one
• 1:13:11
  that was brought to ringside. And that was enough for them to
• 1:13:15
  hold this up as a technicality. And essentially the WWF tag team
• 1:13:20
  team championship belts were vacant because of this loophole.
• 1:13:24
  Nike Loophole. It's a weird thing.
• 1:13:26
  Why don't they just give them the titles for the night?
• 1:13:28
  Right. So it's weird because I
• 1:13:31
  referenced this on the the Part 2 they never have the titles
• 1:13:35
  after the match and then they come out here and they still
• 1:13:38
  don't have the titles. I did not pick up on that on
• 1:13:42
  commentary, but when I did do do a little research and after
• 1:13:45
  talking to you guys, it, it, it's sure that's, that's what it
• 1:13:50
  is. And it's, it's really, really
• 1:13:53
  bizarre. Yeah, it's just like why?
• 1:13:56
  Why I don't, right? It seems like couldn't.
• 1:13:58
  They just have them lose it tonight.
• 1:14:00
  Why couldn't they just have a rematch and lose it tonight?
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, why couldn't? Why?
• 1:14:04
  Couldn't the New Age Outlaws say you put us in the wrong
• 1:14:07
  dumpster? We want a rematch tonight for
• 1:14:10
  the titles, he said. They they don't.
• 1:14:13
  And it's it's they. Go back to WrestleMania.
• 1:14:15
  It's weird that they don't get to like have the celebration
• 1:14:17
  with the belts like that's. They never have them.
• 1:14:19
  It's. Weird.
• 1:14:21
  It's almost like a punishment. The match ends in the back.
• 1:14:23
  The titles are at ringside. You.
• 1:14:25
  Know maybe they just forgot to bring them back.
• 1:14:28
  Who the hell knows, But maybe they were distracted by the
• 1:14:31
  obscene bruising that was on Terry Funk's hip.
• 1:14:35
  Oh, they show that. They show it.
• 1:14:37
  That's essentially our introduction to this match is
• 1:14:41
  they're showing Chainsaw Charlie's music hits and the two
• 1:14:44
  of them come down to the ring, Chainsaw and Cactus.
• 1:14:47
  And then they cut to essentially in the medical tent or the
• 1:14:52
  medical room the and they have Chainsaw Charlie.
• 1:14:57
  Terry funks fucking pants are like all the way down.
• 1:15:00
  His ass crack is hanging out a little bit and you see this
• 1:15:02
  insane bruise on his hip and lower back.
• 1:15:06
  And King calls purple. Yeah, it's purple.
• 1:15:08
  And King calls it that. It's the world's largest Hickey.
• 1:15:12
  That's what he calls it because him and and Cactus Jack are are
• 1:15:16
  sucking something or other. I don't remember the exact
• 1:15:19
  story. Instead, it looks like there's
• 1:15:20
  something medically wrong with him.
• 1:15:21
  Like, Oh yeah. Apparently, they even say it.
• 1:15:24
  Jr. says during the match that it's a ruptured kidney.
• 1:15:27
  Oh yeah. You're saying that but but
• 1:15:31
  Chainsaw Charlie is still out there and when we get to the
• 1:15:33
  match maybe This is why we see his involvement be what it is.
• 1:15:37
  But damn, it's crazy. So before, before we get to the
• 1:15:41
  match, right, New Age Outlaws are out, Billy Gunn comes out
• 1:15:46
  with his South Park shirt on Road Dog.
• 1:15:49
  And Mike, you pointed this out before I watched it, or maybe I
• 1:15:53
  was watching on my first viewing.
• 1:15:55
  You said check out Rd. Dog's shirt.
• 1:15:57
  So I paid extra close attention. Rd.
• 1:15:59
  Dog comes out and he's got a Job Squad shirt on, which is super
• 1:16:03
  interesting. Job Squad is a thing at this
• 1:16:06
  time. And then in a few months, in a
• 1:16:10
  few months, Job Squad is a thing.
• 1:16:13
  Yeah. It's not a thing in WWF yet.
• 1:16:16
  It's Al Snow thing I think in ECW.
• 1:16:18
  This is the first appearance of a Job Squad shirt in It's The
• 1:16:22
  Pin Me Pay Me in WWF and I thought it was really
• 1:16:26
  interesting. It's edgy, it very.
• 1:16:29
  Very. It's a night of edginess with
• 1:16:30
  that kind of breaking down, you know?
• 1:16:33
  So going back to what Matt just said, right off the bat, the
• 1:16:35
  Outlaws handcuffed Terry Funk around his neck.
• 1:16:39
  To the cage just to to keep to Billy Gunn and Road Dogg in the
• 1:16:44
  entrance Rd. Dogg actually says we did the
• 1:16:47
  JOB last night like he. Calls it out like.
• 1:16:52
  Instantly in his walk down to the ring and his shtick of, you
• 1:16:55
  know, being on the mic, I said, you know, we did the JOB.
• 1:16:59
  And it was like tying that to the shirt.
• 1:17:02
  And then it was like, holy shit, this is this is crazy.
• 1:17:05
  Stuff like this is not what you would expect.
• 1:17:08
  Right. No.
• 1:17:09
  And I know that they play with kayfabe and that's kind of like
• 1:17:12
  part of the the charm of Rd. Dog and New Age Outlaws as a
• 1:17:15
  whole. This one was an interesting one
• 1:17:18
  for sure. Maybe I got distracted when he
• 1:17:20
  quotes Judas Priest. Like, you got another thing
• 1:17:24
  coming up, Like, I mean, metal parking lot, Yeah.
• 1:17:29
  Sorry, but yes, we're into the ring.
• 1:17:31
  We're into the now and it looks like a dog chain essentially.
• 1:17:35
  Yes, is what they use. Yeah, it's one of those like
• 1:17:36
  long handcuffs. Match goes 4 minutes and 41
• 1:17:40
  seconds. They handcuff Funk to the blue
• 1:17:42
  cage cactus, you know, then reverses a bunch of moves from
• 1:17:46
  Billy and then Rd. Dog Cactus Jack then randomly
• 1:17:50
  decides to climb the cage. I I feel like I'm watching this
• 1:17:54
  and I'm like what are the rules? Do both of them need to leave
• 1:17:57
  the cage? Does just one man need to?
• 1:18:00
  Otherwise why is he like leaving the cage?
• 1:18:03
  He goes into the corner on the hard Cam side.
• 1:18:07
  He gets off, gets up to the top, Cactus Jack right, and he's like
• 1:18:11
  leaning over and then out of nowhere DX runs down to the
• 1:18:14
  ring. You see China holding a bunch of
• 1:18:15
  like string in her hand is almost.
• 1:18:19
  Yeah. Cactus is hanging over the cage
• 1:18:22
  and the kid, as Jr. keeps calling him, hits him three
• 1:18:26
  times over the head with a chair, swatting him like a
• 1:18:29
  family. Whap, whap whap whap whap.
• 1:18:32
  And then he throws the chair in the ring and they deliver a, you
• 1:18:35
  know, the pile driver onto the chair.
• 1:18:39
  And New Age Outlaws are victorious in this match.
• 1:18:42
  Or does the match even end? Do they pin him?
• 1:18:45
  They pin him, they pin him, they pin him in the middle of.
• 1:18:48
  The ring they do a spike pile driver onto the chair.
• 1:18:50
  Rd. Dog does the worm.
• 1:18:52
  And then? And then covers Cactus Jack for
• 1:18:56
  the 123 and new Tech team champions.
• 1:18:59
  Triple H&X pock come in the ring and they they continue to pile
• 1:19:02
  drive. There's like drink every time
• 1:19:05
  you see a crotch shop happen in this segment because it is wild.
• 1:19:09
  But we're also seeing like, like wild crotch shops from Billy
• 1:19:13
  Gunn at this time. He's going.
• 1:19:15
  Bonkers. He's very excited to be in DX I
• 1:19:17
  think. Yeah, he looks it.
• 1:19:19
  He really does. He's in rockabilly.
• 1:19:21
  He was rockabilly a year before. Now he's in DX.
• 1:19:24
  Oh yeah, this is great. Now J Martin and King most of
• 1:19:29
  all is speculating that the New Age Outlaws have joined DX and
• 1:19:34
  that's what they start talking about.
• 1:19:35
  And it's it's an interest, it's an interesting listen.
• 1:19:38
  So let's take a listen. I don't think much of it at all.
• 1:19:41
  You're. Seeing the new DX.
• 1:19:44
  What if this is the new DX We're damn sharing for some trouble?
• 1:19:48
  No, no. Oh God.
• 1:19:52
  Hey, God, it's carnage. I think, King, I think you're
• 1:19:57
  right. I know I'm right.
• 1:20:00
  Now the Outlaws, John DX, my God, they're they're stronger
• 1:20:05
  than ever. And that big chair shot that you
• 1:20:10
  heard was a big old whack. I'm so pissed off that I didn't
• 1:20:13
  put it in the board and I took it out of the stream yard.
• 1:20:16
  But anyway, that big old whack that you heard was a big old
• 1:20:20
  chair shot. Really gnarly unprotected chair
• 1:20:22
  shot to Cactus Jeff. From Triple H it's.
• 1:20:25
  A lot of whacks in this one. Yeah, it's oh God, this whole
• 1:20:30
  thing is weird. I find this last match to be a
• 1:20:33
  little sloppy because of the way that it's not explain that like
• 1:20:39
  you don't need to map it out. But there's definitely like
• 1:20:41
  weird things like the match before with Jr. saying like like
• 1:20:45
  who, who told who told King that there's going to be a new member
• 1:20:48
  of of DX and then he announces it in the the previous match.
• 1:20:52
  It's very strange. Like it's one of those like
• 1:20:56
  moments where it's like, it's incredible, don't get me wrong,
• 1:21:00
  but there's like little, little tweaks here and there that they
• 1:21:03
  could have made that could have made it just a little bit more,
• 1:21:06
  little bit better. I feel like that's very.
• 1:21:08
  So obvious though. No, it's not like it's
• 1:21:10
  storytelling. Like they're telling you
• 1:21:11
  exactly. Instead of like, showing you
• 1:21:13
  what's right they're telling you like, for no reason.
• 1:21:16
  Like not even with like a bullshit like all my sources
• 1:21:20
  told me back. Yeah, yeah, like 8, Ball told
• 1:21:22
  Stone Cold. Before they like, dropped that
• 1:21:24
  one, you know? All right, so.
• 1:21:29
  He's an earlier Bronco Buster too.
• 1:21:31
  It's like upside down Bronco Buster.
• 1:21:33
  Yeah, and I don't know if he was using that a he probably was
• 1:21:36
  using that in WCW, but that thing is is wild to see.
• 1:21:41
  So the interesting thing I think before we give this cans in the
• 1:21:44
  cooler and this is like, I feel like this is so against kayfabe.
• 1:21:50
  Did you guys see what the dark match is to end Raw?
• 1:21:54
  That blonde guy was behind Kenny Kelly.
• 1:21:56
  Yes, that's what I was going to say.
• 1:21:58
  No, there is a dark match after Raw and it is Ken Shamrock.
• 1:22:04
  OK, wait, it's Triple H, The Rock and Kane facing off against
• 1:22:09
  Ken Shamrock, The Undertaker and Stone.
• 1:22:13
  Cold. Wow, that's a banger.
• 1:22:15
  That's a That's a house show special.
• 1:22:17
  That's a house. He's special.
• 1:22:18
  He's back. He's got ready from.
• 1:22:19
  Jail. He's back in his wrestling.
• 1:22:21
  Triple HI don't need DXI got the rocking cane.
• 1:22:24
  That is a house show special. Oh my God, the fact that they
• 1:22:28
  like put 3. Faces and three heels.
• 1:22:30
  There we go. Wild.
• 1:22:31
  But anyway, let's give the scans in the cooler.
• 1:22:33
  Does anybody one of five? Cans. 5 cans, right?
• 1:22:37
  I'm five. Yeah.
• 1:22:38
  I think this is a perfect episode of Raw.
• 1:22:40
  It's and it was. You can't discount how important
• 1:22:44
  it is. Like, it feels so fresh.
• 1:22:47
  It feels so fresh. We've watched a lot of this
• 1:22:49
  stuff recently, right? Like, I should be sick of this
• 1:22:53
  by now. But this episode feels, like I
• 1:22:55
  said before, like an absolute turn of the page.
• 1:22:57
  It is so fresh. There's never a dull moment.
• 1:23:01
  It's, and it's hard to do what they're doing here.
• 1:23:03
  Like you got to give them credit for it.
• 1:23:05
  Like it's this episode's so successful because it feels like
• 1:23:08
  something new and exciting and it feels like WWF is back on
• 1:23:12
  top. And I think that's, I don't
• 1:23:14
  know. Yes.
• 1:23:14
  And again, I like, I liked WrestleMania just fine.
• 1:23:17
  It's great. It's better to be better.
• 1:23:19
  This is just awesome. Yeah.
• 1:23:21
  Do you guys have anything lower than A5?
• 1:23:25
  I the second that I've like sat down and I finished watching,
• 1:23:29
  I'm usually really bad at thinking of grades in the
• 1:23:31
  moment, but 4 1/2 was kind of where my head went.
• 1:23:34
  And I feel like Jim is right with everything that he's
• 1:23:37
  saying, and that's. Fair. 4 1/2 is very fair. 4 is
• 1:23:42
  really like that's where this needs to live.
• 1:23:44
  The lack of wrestling and you know, sure what was what was in
• 1:23:48
  the ring was fun. Except for.
• 1:23:50
  Don't forget though, we're. About four minutes we're.
• 1:23:53
  About to enter enter the era of It's a male soup soap opera.
• 1:23:59
  Like you know what I mean? Like it It never was about the
• 1:24:03
  wrestling answer to this. Nope.
• 1:24:04
  It's really not. And Jeff Jarrett in there that
• 1:24:06
  that takes down a quarter of a can I I just maybe I didn't want
• 1:24:10
  to give it 5, but this is something I highly recommend
• 1:24:13
  that you go back and you relive because there were bits and
• 1:24:16
  pieces of this that you just forget along the way.
• 1:24:19
  Seeing the Val Venus like vignette was crazy.
• 1:24:22
  Seeing all the other types of shit that was going on and the
• 1:24:26
  Vince and the Austin interaction.
• 1:24:27
  This is the very last time that we see the Winged Eagle belt
• 1:24:31
  until Cody recently. Oh yeah.
• 1:24:33
  I forgot disrespect for the winged eagle Eagle.
• 1:24:35
  I'm down to a 11. Yeah.
• 1:24:38
  This was such an engaging, fun episode of Monday Night Raw and
• 1:24:43
  it really is the turning point in in in the the Monday Night
• 1:24:48
  War, too. We talked about that a lot with
• 1:24:49
  Mike Tyson and the impact of Cold Stone.
• 1:24:53
  And now we're getting into this other side, which we see a
• 1:24:57
  defection of 6 now coming back to the other side.
• 1:25:01
  And that is such a major piece of all of this too.
• 1:25:04
  And just the the the the rocket fuel that is being pumped into
• 1:25:08
  triple HS DX is really freaking cool to watch.
• 1:25:11
  So no less than four and a. Half real quick, the the cold
• 1:25:16
  stone button you just pressed. I like that you looked like you
• 1:25:19
  went off screen to press it like it's in.
• 1:25:21
  It's like the like you should get a cold stone like crank.
• 1:25:23
  You pull it in a place like the Conan Texas Ranger thing.
• 1:25:30
  Mike, what's your rating of this?
• 1:25:32
  This my gut also said 4 1/2. You know, I'm I'm with Matt
• 1:25:39
  there. I I was thinking 5, but 4 1/2
• 1:25:44
  there's just bits and pieces of like the storyline, like we, you
• 1:25:49
  just mentioned it how like some some things just didn't add up,
• 1:25:55
  but you know, it's a fantastic raw.
• 1:25:58
  It's amazing. It's worth a watch.
• 1:26:02
  It's worth a re watch. It's worth so many re watches.
• 1:26:07
  There's so many debuts like Xpac and Kai and Thai and Val Val,
• 1:26:12
  Venus, Vignette and Severn and it's there's just and the turns
• 1:26:18
  like the rocky turn, it's the. Eyebrow debut People's Eyebrow
• 1:26:21
  basically debuts here. I might be.
• 1:26:24
  It's just I love, I love this. I love the Raw.
• 1:26:27
  It's I pretty much agree with Jim that it's probably better
• 1:26:31
  than WrestleMania. Yeah, Manny was good.
• 1:26:34
  Yeah, yeah. So that's my take.
• 1:26:38
  Don't forget don't forget Kurgan 2 Rs.
• 1:26:40
  Right. I don't want to tell you guys.
• 1:26:41
  4.75. I don't want to tell you guys
• 1:26:44
  that you're crazy for not giving it A5, but you're crazy for not
• 1:26:47
  giving it A5. This is the most important and
• 1:26:52
  the most iconic Monday Night Raw ever, in my opinion.
• 1:26:57
  Ever. Your.
• 1:26:57
  Pipe and smoke. It no, I don't I, I don't think
• 1:27:01
  you guys are crazy for I, I completely understand and
• 1:27:04
  respect the, the little things, right, because I completely
• 1:27:08
  agree with that. But to me, it's the most
• 1:27:11
  important and the most iconic Monday Night Raw ever.
• 1:27:14
  Ever. Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Like, is there like there? Yeah, there's moments like the
• 1:27:19
  beer truck and the, you know, stupid shit like that.
• 1:27:22
  And but this. Thing those raws had a yeah
• 1:27:25
  stupid ass shit. Right, all right, this thing is.
• 1:27:29
  I'm going 4 3/4 and that quarter can difference is Tennessee
• 1:27:33
  league. I was going to say.
• 1:27:35
  Yeah. There you go.
• 1:27:37
  That's fair, That's fair. Scooby-doo.
• 1:27:43
  But seriously, this is is this not the most like I I challenge
• 1:27:49
  anybody to come on the discord, which is free despite our jokes
• 1:27:55
  and and tell me that there is a better all around and more
• 1:28:00
  important Monday Night Raw out there in there, however many.
• 1:28:04
  Episodes November 14th, 2016. You know, Roman Reigns, like
• 1:28:12
  there's don't get me wrong, there are incredible moments,
• 1:28:15
  bro, but this thing top to bottom, you've got you've got
• 1:28:19
  Austin McMahon storyline kicking off, you've got the new era of
• 1:28:23
  DX, you've got the Rock taking over you, you've got not there's
• 1:28:28
  just there's so much stuff on this thing, but.
• 1:28:33
  Maybe, maybe May 14th, 2024 when Roman got his veneers.
• 1:28:38
  Which which set. It as impressive as this version
• 1:28:44
  of DXS and all the stuff they do in the months coming too.
• 1:28:49
  I just have to say one thing. It took three men to replace
• 1:28:55
  Shawn Michaels in DX and in my opinion, they don't hold a
• 1:29:01
  candle. To.
• 1:29:03
  Everything that he did in 1997, that that's that's the one thing
• 1:29:09
  like Shawn has his cringe moments because we know how much
• 1:29:15
  of a Dick he was. But DX, from this moment on, I
• 1:29:20
  don't know if they go any higher than this Monday Night Raw.
• 1:29:25
  I think it's all downhill from here, like.
• 1:29:27
  Bikes next week. And it's a slow downhill, but
• 1:29:31
  they go downhill from here. The.
• 1:29:33
  The week after they're pissing on bikes, spray painting DX on
• 1:29:36
  like garbage cans. Yeah.
• 1:29:38
  Like it looks like downhill pass me some of that stuff they
• 1:29:41
  should just whip ass. Like yeah, no, I'm with you.
• 1:29:43
  This is the high watermark I think.
• 1:29:44
  For you know. For this version of DX, and they
• 1:29:46
  replaced Sean, a main eventer, with you made a card guy on the
• 1:29:50
  tag team, Yeah. They they do not fill the same
• 1:29:53
  shoes. You needed to replace Shawn
• 1:29:55
  Michaels with three guys and it didn't.
• 1:29:58
  It worked. Don't get me.
• 1:29:59
  Wrong. And it worked.
• 1:30:00
  This was exciting. It was exciting, it was fun.
• 1:30:03
  I was into it at the time but looking back on it it's like
• 1:30:06
  damn it, it's all. Down there, as each week passed,
• 1:30:09
  I liked them less and less. It's.
• 1:30:12
  Like NWO? Yeah, it's a it becomes a comedy
• 1:30:14
  act, Yeah. Jim did.
• 1:30:17
  RIP ass. Oh yeah, we didn't.
• 1:30:19
  Did we get there? We didn't.
• 1:30:20
  Get there, Let's listen to Mr. Old Xbox.
• 1:30:24
  So the way I see it right now, this is our new beginning for
• 1:30:30
  Degeneration X, and we're here to RIP ass on the World
• 1:30:34
  Wrestling Federation. And it starts tonight.
• 1:30:45
  Well, this kid is Paula B&B King.
• 1:30:48
  Oh yeah, By the way, I got 2 words for ya, sucker.
• 1:30:53
  Yeah. That's that's rough.
• 1:30:58
  I feel like they're kind of the, it's kind of sad.
• 1:31:01
  They're like, first, we're going to not to, you know, like to get
• 1:31:04
  this straight, He's going to fart.
• 1:31:06
  They're going to fart. And that fart is fart with P&V.
• 1:31:11
  Yeah, yes, exactly. Jerry really like lines that
• 1:31:14
  right in there like pissing vinegar and then the suck it at
• 1:31:17
  the end. It's like, OK, all right, guys,
• 1:31:18
  you're. In the worst.
• 1:31:19
  You're in 7th grade. Forgot to get his catch phrase
• 1:31:21
  in, yeah. But but Xbox is the one that
• 1:31:24
  says suck it and then yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Yeah. Well, Howard Dean in there.
• 1:31:33
  Yeah, All right, so this this was in insanely entertaining
• 1:31:38
  this entire 5 episode run that we've had here this timeline.
• 1:31:43
  But more importantly, I, I want to thank everybody for listening
• 1:31:48
  to this. I know we've kind of, we've
• 1:31:51
  shifted ways. We used to be like an hour long
• 1:31:53
  podcast. Now we've become like a 90
• 1:31:56
  minute podcast. Just looked at the clock.
• 1:31:58
  Which I am one of those people that hate guys that talk for
• 1:32:00
  three hours. So I promise we'll never get
• 1:32:02
  there. But quite frankly, I get every
• 1:32:05
  other week to talk to three of my best friends about wrestling
• 1:32:08
  that we watched back in the day. So I hope you enjoy it.
• 1:32:11
  I thank everybody for coming and listening.
• 1:32:14
  I don't know what we're going to cover next.
• 1:32:15
  We've got some ideas. It's someone's birthday right
• 1:32:18
  around the corner, so I think you can think of a gimmicky
• 1:32:20
  episode we could think of. But yeah, but seriously.
• 1:32:24
  And to to. Section of the discord channel,
• 1:32:26
  just saying. To to Mike the librarian, right?
• 1:32:30
  He's a librarian. Don't be shy.
• 1:32:32
  And to everybody else, our discord is free.
• 1:32:35
  And honestly, like I love talking to these guys about
• 1:32:38
  wrestling, but I love talking to everybody else about wrestling,
• 1:32:41
  whether it is a moment in time or something that is going on
• 1:32:44
  right now. And I appreciate everybody that
• 1:32:46
  hits play and has already hit. Play Yeah, let's let's talk
• 1:32:49
  seriously about which is the best version of Kurgan.
• 1:32:52
  Is it giant Kurgan? Is it Goliath Kurgan?
• 1:32:54
  Is it Kurgan with 1R? Is it Kurgan with two Rs?
• 1:32:56
  Come to let's talk. And Mike, I'm sorry about, you
• 1:32:59
  know, Undertaker and Kane, but not sorry.
• 1:33:00
  So let's talk. Let's hash this out.
• 1:33:03
  That feud is overrated. Cheers guys.
• 1:33:08
  We'll hit you with a new episode before you know it.
• 1:33:11
  We appreciate you all. Thank you.
• 1:33:14
  Don't forget to catch us on Channel 42 on the Black Box.
• 1:33:17
  Love you too, honey, I. Smoke it.
• 1:33:18
  Oh. Yeah, by the way, I got 2 words
• 1:33:23
  for you. Suck it.
• 1:33:24
  Yeah.