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Matt Snyder on the World Series, Bill Bender talks College Football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi Miller Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network
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flagship on Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KX&O bottom of
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the hour Bill Bender on college football Well, game 3 putting
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the classic back in the fall classic.
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What a game that was last night. Matt Snyder was there at Dodger
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Stadium watching all 18 innings and he joins us from LA Matt
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Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on.
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How are you and what time did you file your game story?
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What time did you finally hit send and get out of Dodger
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Stadium last night? So The thing is I had been
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building it like throughout the game.
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So basically like right when it ended, all I had to do was just
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kind of add in the parts about the frame and walk off home run.
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So probably only 15 minutes after it ended, which I mean,
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what was it? 3:00 AM Eastern Time, so 2:00 AM
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you guys time. So around then.
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Unbelievable. So much of there was, I mean
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every single inning seemingly had something that we're talking
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about from the second inning. I thought Guerrero might have
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played made as good a defensive play as I've seen.
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It was that 6th inning I think when he got to to Oscar
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Hernandez. Few innings later, Tommy Edmond
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says hold my beer as he guns down kind of Faleppa at third
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base, guys getting thrown out at home.
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It was just one of these baseball games that you'll never
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forget, Matt. Absolutely.
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And it's funny that you mentioned that, but because when
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it was, yeah, I'll let you behind the curtain a little bit.
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When it was like the 7th or 8th inning, when I talked to my
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editors about what I might write, I said, you know what I'm
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going to do, It doesn't matter who wins.
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I'm just going to write about how amazing of a game this has
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been. And you know, that was again,
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when it was only the 7th or 8th inning or so.
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And my editor said, you know what, something cool has
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happened every single inning, whether it was something good or
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whether it was like Beau Bouchet getting picked off first because
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he thought Dalton Varsha walked. Like there was something quirky
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in every single inning. And I think even to the end,
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even though they nobody scored for like, I think 3 hours in
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real time, there was traffic in extra innings.
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There were guys on base every single inning.
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So yeah, it was it was intense. It was exciting.
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I do think the extra innings dragged a little bit and
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probably lost a lot of viewers in the process once you get up
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into the wee hours of the morning.
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And but I, I will say this, I realized in like the 15th inning
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that I hadn't been up out of my seat since the 7th inning.
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And then I stood up and like my back was all tight, my leg.
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I was like, dude, what am I doing?
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I got to get up and walk around a little bit, but it was just
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that kind of game. You know, Ken speculated.
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We were talking about a little bit earlier for you media guys
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and for the people that are on print deadline, people getting
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quotes after the game. Did you have to take an Uber
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home? Was there actually, you know,
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something waited for you to take you back to the the hotel that
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they had for you? How was it late night and what
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time did you finally depart Dodger Stadium last night?
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I actually have found a way that if you walk and I don't mind
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walking, I'm still in pretty good shape for being 47.
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If you walk and get a little bit away from the ballpark, you can
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usually flag down a cab and that's what I did.
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So it's probably 1/2 hour or so after the game.
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And no, they do Jack the prices up like, you know, a couple of
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years ago. No, it was last year.
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I walked out and like the first guy I saw, I said, hey, headed
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downtown and he goes like $300. No, I'm not going to try to
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expense that. Yeah.
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So last night he, the first guy I saw once, I walked probably
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three or four blocks away from Dodger Stadium, I was like, hey,
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I'm, I'm going downtown. And he said 70 bucks.
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I'm like, OK, yeah, I'll take it.
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Yeah, that's just kind of what you have to do then.
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Is the nightmare the the getting in and getting and particularly
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getting out of Dodger Stadium? Is it as bad as everyone says?
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Yes, that, that's why I, I've, I've started to kind of defend
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the Dodgers fans over the year. You know what, the whole stigma
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on the leaving, arriving early, leaving when everybody's trying
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to leave at once, it is an absolute madhouse.
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It's ridiculous. I mean, it seats almost 60,000
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people and everybody drives and it's just a giant parking.
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You've seen the aerial shot. I was just in a parking lot all
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the way around. There's two exits, one behind
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home plate and one behind center field.
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It takes forever. I always joke about when I'm
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sitting there writing, I can look out over center field and
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it's just a sea of brake lights for an hour and a half, usually
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after the game. It'd be torture.
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But you get out of there and you're up and it's a little
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after 11:00 AM Pacific Time and they're going to play once again
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today. Ohtani got out on the steel a
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little bit later on. He was going to second base on a
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base knock and he came up a little bit gimpy afterwards.
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Of course he remained in the game as he got on base 9 times
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throughout the course of that one.
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Any concerns though health wise with Otani?
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I know he said afterwards that he just want to get home and get
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to bed, but any concerns about that part of it and just where
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he is physically? Yes, 100%.
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I look, this is the thing we have with Shohei Otani that we
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have never had with anybody else.
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I know people want to talk about Babe Ruth, but he didn't have
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much overlap between being a pitcher and being hitter.
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Otani was on base 9 times last night in a game that was way
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over six hours and now he's supposed to pitch.
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I, I just, I can't imagine that he's not compromised at least a
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little bit. But here's the thing, it's
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Shohei Otani. He is superhuman.
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He is the the greatest baseball player in terms of sheer talent
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that we've ever seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he
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goes out and deals tonight, but I do think that there's a
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possibility that he's tired and he gets knocked around a little
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bit. Any problem with Schneider
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taking out Mad Max when he did and who came and flew?
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Hardy comes in at that point. Any problem there?
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You know Tony did double. Yeah, I I just like, I
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understand you want to get the lefty on there and letting
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Shohei Otani see anybody 1/3 time, much less a 41 year old
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who he had already doubled and homered off of.
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I kind of feel like it wouldn't have been a double, it would
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have been a home run. So yeah, that was absolutely the
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right move. And that's one of the like, I
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don't love saying this, but that's one of those moves where
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I like the process over the results because I don't honestly
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care that Otani doubled home a guy and then ended up scoring to
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tie the game. Like, you had to make that move.
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You absolutely you could not let him see Scherzer 1/3.
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Time. And Scherzer didn't.
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I mean, he didn't even balk. I mean, not like the last time,
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yeah, right. I thought he was going to yell
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at. Him I did too, but he knew he
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was. Done.
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My vainest point. I don't know if they showed it
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on TV, but Schneider signaled for the bullpen like one step
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out of the dugout and and I just my, my thought was he's not
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going to get to the mound and, and let Scherzer try to talk him
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out of it. He's making the move no matter
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what. Probably the right thing to do
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because we know Scherzer, he is wired differently, good batter
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and different and it's certainly been good throughout the course
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of his career. So to tonight, and we mentioned
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Ohtani on the other side, is Shane Bieber.
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Hard to get a good read on him. What do you anticipate out of
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the Blue Jays for a starter and after the use of the bullpen,
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one way or the other, is he going to have to go deep into
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this one? Yeah, I think they're going to
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have to try. I think he's going to have to
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try to get maybe three times through the order.
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And that's a tall order with the Dodgers.
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But if you try to take Otani out of the equation, it's a little
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bit easier to navigate. And especially because Mookie
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Beth is not that scary right now and he's the guy behind Otani.
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So I think you just kind of automatically walk Otani every
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time and then hope that you can get Bieber through the order
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three times. I mean, look, this is it.
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Like this is the season. I, I be you, you can't fall down
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31 to the Dodgers, especially after last night where they had
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plenty of chances to win that game.
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So I, I think you're going to completely empty Bieber's tank.
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And then if you have to throw some relievers, you know, Louis
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Barlon pitches every single game.
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I assume he'll throw again. I bet you Bassett comes in.
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He only threw 8. Bassett threw 8 pitches.
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Bassett threw 8 pitches. He would have to be the guy, I
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think. And you know what, that's a
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great point. That's the one that you could
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piggyback Bieber with. If you you get worried about
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Bieber going to the line up a third time and it's been 4
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innings and it's and it's closed.
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Maybe you get Bastard a couple innings before you get to the to
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the Varlan and Hoffman. What can you tell us about
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George Springer and his availability for tonight?
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I don't know right now, I assume they're doing every treatment on
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demand, but a side injury like that, if it's an oblique, it's
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obliques. What, a month?
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Oh yeah, absolutely. So I, I would say just
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speculating, I'd be surprised if he was in the lineup tonight.
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I kind of feel like he might be done, but you never know.
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Maybe it was. I guess my biggest thought was
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you wouldn't take somebody out on a precautionary basis in a
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must win World Series game. And he started walking off right
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away and he's played hurt. He got hit in the kneecap and
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stayed in the game and he was hobbling around in in the last
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game of the ALCS and he still stayed in.
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But last night he, he started walking off right away and that
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that made me think, oh, oh, it's bad.
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And he's done for the series. Yeah, I, I, I'm with you.
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Did you have a problem with Schneider taking Barger out when
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he did? Yes, That's what was my concern.
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I agree. For the most part, I, I got
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everything. I understood it like I, I, I
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some people complained about Bichette coming out, but I was
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like, man, he can't run and they needed somebody to run at that
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point in the game. And, and Kirk, I know it's tough
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to take out your your catcher, especially as the hottest Kirk's
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been in the playoffs, by the way, he's been amazing in the
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playoffs, but like they needed somebody who could run at that
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point in time. But the the barger moved their
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lineup at the end of the game felt like it's only Vlad, maybe
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a little bit Dalton VAR show like a.
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Spring training lineup, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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And yet one swing could have changed it, and they never got
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that swing. Here's what it was France, Lucas
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Guerrero, Kinder, full Epipet and clean up Varsho Kirk while
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he was still in there. This one was 55 straw, Clemente
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and Jimenez. I mean that that line is not
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going to be the Dodgers. Here's another point that one of
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my colleagues brought up in our chat room last night.
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He said if they're going to continue to take out Bichette in
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the middle of the game, you can't bat him behind Vlad
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because you can't have as protection for Vlad Guerrero
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late in the game. You just can't.
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No, that makes. Sense I never thought of that.
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That's a. That's a really good point.
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Matt, can you take us into the crazy playback in the second
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inning with Bobichette getting picked off at first after just
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an absolutely awful call behind the plate?
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I mean, as you know, Ken's normally the one that complaints
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about home plate umpires. This one I think we can all
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complain about and then the confusion getting picked off
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there. It doesn't.
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I don't know. There's nothing that you can do
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and there's nothing that you can do until we get to the challenge
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system that'll be in place. But with that one, just a what a
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weird spot that was. What's interesting, So upon
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first glance I thought, OK, the Empire completely screwed them
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because it seemed like a delayed strike call.
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And because of the delayed strike called, the jet has the
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leg injury, he couldn't really fire and get back to first.
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But like, didn't Varsho kind of stop and look at home plate in
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the first second and then start going to 1st?
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Like somebody told him it was a walk.
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And I think that's what messed the shed up.
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It was bizarre. It would be a lot better with
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the challenge system because I think the second that he called
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a strike, Varsho probably would have tapped his head and we
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would have found out it was a ball.
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But it was tough, tough all around.
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Like Bichette, he can't really use his legs as much.
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He's strained off first base, started, moved.
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It was just a weird situation. Were you in the press, the Otani
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press conference pregame when he was asked about the We don't
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need You chat? Chad travel?
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You missed that one. That was pretty good up in
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Toronto game one when they're Roger center in unison.
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We don't need you. We don't need you.
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Yeah, they need you. Every team could use.
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Yeah. Probably would be winning.
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The world, Yeah, unbelievable. So must win tonight.
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If the Jays don't win tonight, it's over.
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My hunches and I'm sorry man. No, I'm with you, dude.
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I'm with you that that last night was it like to, to have
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that many chances to win the game, to have a chance to take a
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21 lead in Dodger Stadium. I I kind of feel like if the
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Blue Jays were going to win the World Series, that was one that
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they absolutely had to have. Yep, no doubt, I know.
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Yes, obviously I would say tonight's a must win.
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Vinnie Pasquotino, have you guys been following what he's been
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doing in this series of all the social media that he does, the
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Royals first baseman, he's been unbelievable.
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Are you what he's been doing for Major League base?
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Oh my God, he's he's funny and all his, you know, all the XS or
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whatever from the MLB account. He's been really, really good.
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No, he's good. I like.
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It when we when you kind of when they have current players and
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stuff in the postseason and you kind of find like, hey, he could
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be a A next generation broadcaster.
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Like I think that's how Adam Wainwright started.
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Like when he was still playing, they had him on a few broadcasts
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and everybody realized like, hey, he's really good, so yeah,
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that's cool. Wouldn't happen.
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Good stuff. Thanks for doing this, as
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always. I hope it gets back to Toronto
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for a Game 6 on Friday. Hopefully.
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Yeah, we'll see. Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com.
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Matt, thank you all. Right.
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Take care, yeah. Good to talk to you.
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Matt Snyder didn't have the heart to ask him about tomorrow.
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Join us about what to come on with us tomorrow and recap
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today's game in preview game five.
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I might reach out to him. You don't want to give baseball
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up. I don't Trent.
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This series has been like, OK, I'm a Blue Jays fan, yes, but if
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it would have been somebody else, I would have been digging
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this. This has been great theater.
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If it was Seattle and playing out the exact same way.
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Absolutely. The same way.
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It's been great theater. Game one was phenomenal, though
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the Grand Slam game. Game two, you had to know that
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the Dodgers were going to flex a little bit, but I think it's
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been a really good World Series. We're only three games into it
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feels like 4. Well, that's because it is far
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as innings go. You get many shots there.
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What's the point is it is the money line?
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Is it crazy? Dodge your favorite.
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No, not crazy -195 about what it was.
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Last night about what they were last night.
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About the same one or time I there's something about the way
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that he went into second base. You've heard me bring that a
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couple. Of different times.
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Three times today, yeah. It's something seemed.
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Off there what is his out total of has that prop been posted yet
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it. Is let me pull them up here.
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I think Bieber's going to have to wear one.
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Either he's going to be good, he's obviously going to go deep,
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or he's going to have to wear it because.
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Bassett's Bassett will be Bassett will follow him.
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I'm convinced of that. Say it.
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Say he gives up, You know, a three run Homer in the 4th
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inning and it's 5/1. I mean, don't you just have to
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wear it then and say we, we can't use our bullpen here
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because the likelihood of coming back is small.
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So Bieber keeps going out there. We save our bullpen for Game 5.
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We'll get an off day reset and then hopefully go.
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Isn't that the way you would manage if you're Schneider?
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That scenario plays out just like that.
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What are you doing? Are you pulling Bieber right
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away? Going to basket?
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No. No.
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Because in order to win 3 consecutive and that's what it
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would take. I think he almost punt this
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game. Yeah.
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So as you can tell, I am starting to look on the over
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side of that one. All right, pitching props for
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today. KS are up, hits allowed out.
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There we go. 18 1/2 is the number for Ohtani.
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I would take the under. I would too.
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That's 16 and that's 16 2/3 innings to beat our six and 2/3
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innings to beat you. And Bieber is 14 1/2.
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Can he get through 5, four and 2/3?
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If he gets through the first, the first has been his bugaboo.
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I think I'm under Ohtani. Yep, me too.
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Over Bieber. I think I I think you, I think
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you hit the nail on the head. Your reasoning behind it.
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He's got to wear one because the bullpen they had, they threw
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nine guys. Dodgers went 10.
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Dodgers bullpen, you know, keep here and get to the bullpen.
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Get to the bullpen. Well, they got to the bullpen.
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They were unbelievable that bullpen last time.
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What a game. As he said, start the show.
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It's been a bad, bad couple of days for baseball's boring fans
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out there. Jack Dreyer got in there.
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Saw that he was good. Got one, gave up a hit and very
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quickly they went to Sasaki. Boy, he.
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Who wasn't great yesterday? He.
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If you're a Dodgers fan, would he make?
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He makes me nervous. Yeah.
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He just. I know he's talented.
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The movement on the ball, it's unbelievable sick.
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It really is. Oh, man, I don't know how
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they're going to pull us off tonight.
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Even this series up at 2 a piece, I would love to see.
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Best of three, please bring it on.
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One in LA in the next, one or two in in Rodgers Center,
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downtown Toronto. We'll take a time out.
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the afternoon when Sean and Lucas come off the bench from
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2:00 until 5. Miller and Condon talking sports
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I'm Miller Condon, welcome back. Coming up on 1:30 on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network flagship from Des Moines sports station
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One O 6.3 KX&O. Let's talk some college
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football, shall we, with our guy Bill Bender from the Sporting
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News. He joins us.
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Bill, Trent, Ken, thank you for coming on.
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How are you, Bill Bender? I'm doing well, thanks for
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having me on. No appreciate it.
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Obviously the one of the stories of this season's all the big
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name schools that have coaching vacancies this early in the
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process. Not shocked that Brian Kelly was
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let go once Franklin was. It seemed like it's open season
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on whoever you have carte blanche to do it if you need to
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do believe you need to. LSU is as good a job as there is
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probably the top job that is open.
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Now your thoughts on potential? I mean, Lane Kiffin could go
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where he chooses, seemingly. Will he choose to go anywhere,
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do you think? Bill I.
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Think that would be the one that he would entertain knowing that
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you know, three of the last four guys that there won national
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titles. The expectations are you're
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guaranteed almost a top 10 or Green class.
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And yeah, it's one of those jobs, destination jobs, no
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question. And said Ole Miss has the 4th
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best record in college football among Power 4 schools the last
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three years. So why leave when you've already
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built that? It's you could have a statue
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built right. I mean, if he takes takes him to
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a playoff this year, does some things that have not been done
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at Ole Miss, it changes the equation and and makes it very
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difficult Where at LSU, well, you're just another in the line
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of guys that have won a national championship there and you can
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win maybe the tick higher level. I'm not sure sure how much
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higher that level actually is. You know, it kind of leads to
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that trickle down effect of what's going to happen next for
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the Wisconsin's, the Michigan State's that next year that
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might be looking for coaches in this environment with.
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So many jobs open, a couple of blue bloods with LSU and Penn
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State, Florida you throw into the mix.
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Does it make sense for that next year of of program to actually
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do that? Or do you just say, you know
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what, let's give it another shot, let's give it another year
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and we'll wait till maybe that carousel slows down next year in
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2026? I think some some schools are
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going to take that route. You know, knowing that LSU, Penn
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State and Florida are going to probably get, you know, the
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higher ranked candidates here. UCLA is another interesting job,
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but that it might not. You know, they didn't look good
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against Michigan. I mean, this is a different
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Michigan State team. I don't know what Wisconsin is
20:42
going to do with Luke Fickle. I did think they showed the
20:44
fight against Oregon on Saturday.
20:47
When you're already at 8 Power 4 openings and probably at least a
20:51
couple more, it could mean that a guy leaves the school to go
20:56
there and then that one opens up.
20:58
So we're we're going to have a few more, no question.
21:01
Bill the Heisman usually has an overwhelming favorite at at
21:05
seemingly at this point once we get into November.
21:09
Chair Mendoza Neat deserves to be a favorite, but he's a narrow
21:12
favorite. They're this this award is
21:14
anything but settled at this point.
21:16
Is it? Oh, no, yeah.
21:19
I mean, Mendoza, yeah. Jeremiah Smith, Insane.
21:25
There's a couple others I mean. Hayes King's got a shot right.
21:28
Yeah, Hayes King. I mean, I I'm working on a story
21:31
about who knows what happens with Blake Horvath.
21:34
Yeah. Maybe quarterback.
21:36
He, he, I mean, there's two ways to look at it.
21:38
There's a little bit of that and then there's like, OK, who's the
21:41
MVP of their team? And I've said this on the show a
21:44
couple times this season. I think Haines King means more
21:47
to his team than any other player in the country.
21:51
Trenton, I kind of feel the same way.
21:53
I kind of think Marcel Reed might fall into that category as
21:56
well, right? He's probably not getting
21:59
enough. I agree and given what AI mean,
22:01
Texas A&M #3 in the country they they basically got Brian Kelly
22:06
fired by winning at night like that.
22:10
And good on both sides of the ball.
22:13
Brian Kelly never seemed like a cultural fit at LSU.
22:17
The fake family when he showed up there at the basketball game,
22:20
it just it, it was hard to make sense of that hire yet.
22:24
And we see if it didn't work. But there are fits still out
22:28
there. He's 63 years old.
22:29
We see another guy in the 60s that is setting college football
22:32
on fire with Kirk Cinetti. I have an idea for you.
22:35
Michigan State is not real pleased with what's happening
22:37
with Jonathan Smith in year #2 there.
22:40
They pull the plug. That could be a soft landing
22:42
state. He was in Michigan for a long
22:44
time at Saginaw, MI State and a reunion of sorts and bringing
22:48
Brian Kelly in there. Is that something that could
22:51
work for Sparty? Oh, I think he should be Penn
22:55
State's call if Matt Rule doesn't happen.
22:59
You know, Yeah, I I think drawback to taking that Michigan
23:05
State job and they've all dealt with it.
23:07
Back to next statement. Mark Santonio kind of changed it
23:10
a little bit, but Michigan was down.
23:12
You are second. Fiddle.
23:15
This way around your second fiddle to Michigan in that job.
23:18
Nationally, at least now, even when you're winning, it feels
23:22
like the story's always Michigan.
23:24
So, but I I had not thought about that what you said, Trent,
23:29
though Michigan State has been class contender, Big 10
23:32
championship contender. Maybe he could do that for a few
23:35
years, but I don't want to say that job is not big enough, but
23:40
it might not be. Bill, from a national
23:42
perspective, I want to ask you about the the Hawkeyes,
23:45
obviously four and one playing better to fit their defenses
23:48
significantly better than it was in September.
23:52
The big the Big 10 looks as though three or four playoff
23:56
bound teams, Oregon, Indiana and Ohio State obviously at the top
24:00
of that list. USC and I when they'll play each
24:03
other coming up here in a couple of weeks.
24:05
Where are you on the Hawkeyes? Is this is their playoff hopes?
24:08
Are they legit when it comes to the Nationals press and lets you
24:12
speak for them? I mean, you're starting to peak
24:16
on their schedule and you look at it and say, well, they should
24:20
be tending to that. Indiana lost wouldn't look too
24:22
bad. I mean, that was a competitive
24:24
game. And you know, obviously I think
24:28
if you get the ten wins, you have a chance.
24:30
I think they're past the ten wins is a lot better than UFC,
24:36
Michigan, a couple other teams, Washington.
24:39
I mean, USC has to play Oregon, Michigan has to play Ohio State,
24:43
Nebraska has to play USC this weekend.
24:46
So there if Iowa just does its job, the there will be a
24:51
conversation at the end about them possibly being that fourth
24:54
Big 10 team. And Washington is going to have
24:57
a similar opportunity. Look at what they have their
24:59
schedule until they get to the end.
25:01
And that kind of leads to Oregon, which I think a lot of
25:04
people have kind of in there is a foregone conclusion.
25:06
They got to go to Iowa City, they got to go to Seattle to
25:08
rivalry game at the end here. And that's the other part is,
25:12
you know, we get so ahead of our skis every single year just
25:16
thinking that things are going to go.
25:17
It sorts itself. We're arguing about 9 and three
25:20
teams a year ago and we might be back to the same thing.
25:22
That last team in might be arguing again about a nine and
25:25
three team. Why do we do the cells to
25:27
ourselves every year, Bill? We have segments to kill and
25:30
columns to write. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:32
Well, you know, and that's I've, I've been talking about that for
25:35
a couple weeks. Like you take a team like
25:37
Michigan or Texas, if they get left out at nine and three,
25:41
you're wondering, OK, well, why do we step out and play the the
25:45
big non con game if we're just going to take 10 and two team
25:49
over the nine and three team? And I guess winning those games
25:53
makes a difference too. I mean, for Oklahoma, you know,
25:56
if they're sitting there 10 and two or nine and three, but you
25:59
know, you do got to win the regular season games.
26:01
But I do think that's going to be a point of contention they
26:06
let for the at large team. At what point would they let a
26:11
nine and three team over a 10 and two team?
26:13
And I I still don't see it happening.
26:15
What about Notre Dame? Where are you on the Fighting
26:17
Irish? Their their problem, I mean,
26:19
their schedule is I don't know what their most difficult game
26:22
lying maybe at Pitt, maybe. So if they're 10 and two with
26:27
losses back-to-back to Miami and Texas A&M, does does Notre Dame
26:31
crawl slide into this thing? Well, we lost him.
26:43
We did. We'll get him back.
26:45
Yeah, we'll try and like to know the answer to that because I'm
26:49
not so sure. Doc who?
26:50
Scott Dockerman from The Athletic, he is the Athletics
26:55
kind of playoff prognosticator, started this column three weeks
26:58
ago. On Monday, it comes out he
27:00
didn't have them in the first week.
27:01
Last week he had them in as like at 11.
27:03
I think it was the piece that came out yesterday after this
27:07
weekend's most recent results. He does not have them in.
27:10
Nice win over USC, I'll give you that.
27:12
A couple of weeks ago in the rain.
27:15
We'll see. So Bill's back with us from
27:17
Sporting News. Bill, ask you about Notre Dame
27:19
10 and two. They've got nobody left on their
27:21
schedule, with maybe the exception of Pitt I guess.
27:24
Do they get in a 10 and two bill or are they on the cusp?
27:27
Are is there are there in danger maybe of being on the outside
27:30
looking in? I have them on the outside right
27:33
now, but I think they'll get in. I do.
27:35
If they get 10 and two, they'll be in because we talked about,
27:38
you know, maybe that fourth Big 10 team not getting in.
27:41
I don't know that five SCC teams will get in because they have to
27:44
play each other here down the stretch and we'll have some
27:46
attrition. So I and I like the way Notre
27:50
Dame's playing. You know, it's not like both
27:52
those losses are bad. I agree, you know, but but there
27:55
is no margin for error. They can't lose the pit.
27:57
They can't lose the Navy. They would have to finish ten
28:00
and two I'm. With you, Trent.
28:02
The SEC, Tennessee's a top 15 team.
28:05
They beat nobody. You see Missouri, they didn't
28:09
leave home for seven weeks. On and on and on.
28:13
Are you a believer in what we have seen ESPN morph into?
28:17
And it is when you talk about state TV, it feels like that's
28:20
what it is. Many times when you flip on your
28:22
television and go to ESPN in the SEC, do you buy that narrative,
28:26
Bill? Not, I don't know, I mean this
28:30
is what networks do. They hype up their games.
28:33
You know, Fox should hype up these Big 10 teams more.
28:36
You know, INBC should be doing that because ESPN does do a good
28:40
job of it with the SEC, with the whole SEC all day thing.
28:44
I think they do have a more compact race of College Football
28:50
Playoff contenders. You know, last week, though, it
28:53
would have been interesting to see how they would have spun
28:57
Alabama losing to South Carolina had that happened.
29:00
You know, because I got scolded for that a little bit because I
29:04
was just thinking, you know, Ohio State losing at Purdue
29:08
wouldn't have got that. Oh, it's just a tough place to
29:10
play sometimes treatment. So, you know, I don't know that
29:12
the SEC has a dominant team like the Big 10 does and and
29:16
potentially 2 dominant teams that the Big 10 has.
29:19
But the race has been fun and I do think they're good for I
29:23
think they'll end up with four playoff teams, which is kind of
29:25
like the compromise. My last thing for you Bill, I'm
29:28
guessing that the when the schedule came out, you'd already
29:30
been planned Saturday, November the 1st to be at the Shoe, Penn
29:33
State, Ohio State. Obviously that game has lost a
29:36
ton of luster. Are you still going to?
29:39
Is that where you will be on Saturday?
29:41
I mean that that that's planned. You know, obviously the game has
29:45
has changed a little bit. And you know, for Penn State,
29:50
it's kind of that I would not be surprised if this was a little
29:53
bit of their back against the wall coming off a bye week
29:55
reset. And their defense is pretty good
29:58
that they at least challenge the Buckeyes for a while.
30:02
But it is hard to picture Penn State winning that game against
30:06
this combination of offense and defense.
30:08
The Buckeyes have also coming off a bye week and already tough
30:12
enough to beat at home. All right, figure out Plinko for
30:16
us. That's what I'm calling the Big
30:17
12. Just put the chip in there.
30:18
Nobody knows how it's going to fall at the bottom.
30:21
You got undefeat of BYUI. Still don't like that team that
30:24
much. You got Cincinnati and Houston.
30:27
I kind of like both of those teams.
30:29
Texas Tech, We know about the talent.
30:31
Utah, Sometimes they look great, other times they don't.
30:33
They got entries. Hammonds out for Texas Tech on
30:36
and on and on. Get out that crystal ball.
30:38
Bill Bender, who is playing and winning the Big 12 Championship
30:41
game. You know, I kind of like BYU
30:45
and, you know, Bare Bachman, they run the ball, stop the run
30:50
and they find ways to win. Now, if Texas Tech, they need
30:54
Baron Morton to be healthy. If he's healthy, I think they're
30:58
my pick that they were would be able to, you know, get through
31:02
it. They had their one loss at
31:03
Arizona State. That happens.
31:04
But big one, right? Texas Tech, I think Texas Tech
31:08
we want to use next week and we have Cincinnati, Utah this week.
31:12
If Cincinnati somehow beat Utah, they would be my pick, but I
31:16
don't know that they can go out there and win that game.
31:18
I'll give you a sneaky 1. Texas Tech K State.
31:20
This week's got a little cache to it as well as the Wildcats
31:24
look to claw back into things after their start to Big 12
31:27
play. Bill Bender from the Sporting
31:29
News Sporting News for Bill Bender.
31:30
Bill, thanks for jumping on. Appreciate it.
31:32
We'll talk to you in the weeks ahead.
31:33
Thank you, Bill. Hey no problem, thanks for
31:35
having me on. Take care.
31:36
Nice to talk to you, Bill Bender from The Sporting News.
31:39
That's kind of a relatively big spot in the Big 12 this week.
31:42
Would you say that? The biggest spots in Manhattan?
31:47
K State's not out of this. That's what you said.
31:48
Texas Tech and K State's the sneaky big.
31:51
Game. That's the biggest, I agree.
31:52
In a game where you have two ranked teams, I think the bigger
31:57
game is Texas Tech, K State. It is absolutely K State's not
32:03
dead. They're three and two in
32:05
conference play and you look at their pad.
32:07
How did they lose to Arizona? They did different team.
32:12
Obviously they lose over in Dublin in the rain.
32:14
Lost the Baylor game? Yep.
32:16
Lost cause what? The Arizona game was the one
32:18
that didn't count as a conference game.
32:19
Is that one right? Oh, that's right.
32:21
Yeah, that's right. You're right.
32:22
So that's not a conference loss. They're three and two in the
32:25
conference. Texas Tech this week, they get a
32:28
bye and then they finish up with this at Okie State.
32:32
No, that's a cinch at Utah, tough.
32:36
And then home for Colorado. Oh boy, they win this at Utah,
32:39
you said. It's a one game schedule if they
32:42
win this week. If they win this week.
32:44
To get to 2 and then figure out those tiebreakers.
32:47
You know K State's in the hunt. K State's Alive wins their by so
32:51
thereby is after this week before Oklahoma State.
32:54
TCU still alive? And you know what?
32:57
I thought they were going to be better than they are.
32:59
No, they're not. Iowa State can be TCU.
33:02
They're off this week before Iowa State.
33:05
They still have to go and look at this closing gauntlet for
33:07
TCU. They're going to, one way or the
33:09
other, help decide this thing. OK, lay it on me.
33:12
At BYU. At Houston, home for Cincinnati.
33:17
Holy mackerel, that's the who's who at the top of the standings.
33:20
Right now they will help determine who is there and they
33:24
they don't completely control their own destiny.
33:25
No, if they went out, they're going to be handing.
33:28
They've got to buy it. Before Iowa State, you said?
33:31
Yes, they are. Well, they're off.
33:33
Yeah, this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:35
Before the Iowa State. Game and they're three and two.
33:37
They're three and two. So if they went out, yeah,
33:40
Hoover's been. He's not.
33:42
He's a good player. I just don't know what he has
33:44
around them. Yeah, yeah.
33:46
He doesn't have a Quintin Johnson.
33:47
That's for. Sure.
33:48
No, no, that's for sure. And it took him a while to get
33:50
going. What's he got?
33:52
22 passes to 6 picks. Mcallister's all right.
33:55
Yep. But you know, and after him, I
33:57
think it's a pretty big. Drop.
33:59
Off and the rest of that wide receiver.
34:00
He can run, he can run. We'll take a time out, we'll
34:04
come back. Trench plays of the day.
34:06
So what do you when it comes to the World Series, you can't bet
34:09
the game we can. Sure.
34:11
I'm going to. You are?
34:13
Well, yeah. Does it seem like a free square
34:14
to take LA it? Feels like a free square to me.
34:17
It does to me too. But not to take LA.
34:21
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pitch for that one. No announcement as to who's
34:49
going to start tomorrow for either team, at least as of yet.
34:54
Is that out of the norm? Think trying to think back to
34:56
previous. Years.
34:57
Not the way baseball's morphed into, you know, it used to be.
35:00
We knew. We knew before the season began
35:03
or the series began. That's not the case anymore.
35:06
Been trending this direction. So no, not a surprise on that
35:08
one. We'll see how tonight goes.
35:10
I mean, I think that's going to impact also the way this thing
35:13
plays out and the way that both teams are obviously if we're 22.
35:17
A lot different than everyone Blake smelt tomorrow, in all
35:20
likelihood, for the Dodgers. Right.
35:22
I mean, you can probably put that one in pen.
35:24
I would think he would get an opportunity to the clincher.
35:26
So we saw Yamamoto warming up, and how about?
35:29
That No, I didn't see it. I just read it, yeah.
35:31
I was hoping and I told Bowen Camp that last night as we were
35:34
tweeting back and forth at each other.
35:36
So he was 155 as I told him. You know, that was the one thing
35:40
I wanted to go 19 because I wanted to see Yamamoto, they
35:42
said. He was.
35:43
Coming in, he was coming into the game and I wanted to see
35:47
that piece of it. Same thing tonight.
35:49
Because the one. He probably, you know, obviously
35:52
they're looking ahead. If he pitches, then probably
35:54
goes their way. He may not get to pitch again in
35:56
the series. Right.
35:57
And if he does, maybe it'll be game seven.
36:00
You know, that was also his scheduled day to throw, so he's
36:03
normally throwing his bullpen that day anyway.
36:05
Well, throwing a bullpen, let's do it the game.
36:08
And that could be the if, if we go long tonight, maybe Snell has
36:12
to go out there and you go that direction and if you feel like
36:14
you have it, you kind of go that way.
36:16
But we'll see. On that front, I got a lot of
36:18
props, a lot more than normal. OK.
36:20
Playing the out totals for both starting pitching, we talked
36:23
about this and talked through it earlier.
36:25
Otani, we're going under 18 outs.
36:27
That's -125 at Circa, we're going over 15 outs for Bieber,
36:32
that is -115 so we have potential with pushes.
36:36
You're betting there's half different places that you shop
36:40
in the market. So whatever way you want to go,
36:42
you can find that in the market. Two more player props.
36:45
I'm going to play Mookie Betts to hit a home run over 1/2 / 5
36:49
to 1. You said it.
36:50
He's 2, right? He absolutely is.
36:53
He's going to get a ton of opportunities.
36:55
And here's another angle because Schneider said maybe outside of
36:58
the first inning, they're not going to pitch to Otani.
37:01
So because of that, we're going to go Otani over 1/2 stolen
37:06
base, little better than 3:00 to 1:00 on that.
37:08
But don't forget, throughout the night you are throughout our
37:11
show, you've been talking about him limping.
37:13
He was limping and that's part of the game that we have.
37:17
Plus 180. All right.
37:18
Plus 180 for the Blue Jays tonight.
37:21
We are going to jump aboard with that one.
37:23
Taking the Jays. The tax bullpen, the quote
37:25
concerns that I have with Otani. I just wonder, I think the price
37:29
is too good. This little bullpen kind of
37:32
tracker that helps me when I'm going through and doing my games
37:35
basically says the advantage because of bullpen usage goes
37:39
back and instead of the plus 180 I could get, that should be more
37:42
like plus 165. SA lot of value in the Blue Jays
37:45
and we will jump on that. Plus we're not done.
37:49
We got 2 college football games tonight and I like the dog in
37:52
both of them. Give me Texas State getting the
37:55
seven against James Madison JMU get a little bit of buzz.
37:58
Hey, you're looking for that group of five team.
38:00
If the American keeps beating up on each other, watch out for
38:03
them. Watch out themselves as they
38:05
make their way to San Marcos, TX.
38:07
I think that's. No idea.
38:08
And give me the minors against the Red Hot Owls of Kennesaw
38:12
State. I'm going to grab UTEP tonight
38:15
plus the 11. UTEP Plus 11 and James No Texas.
38:21
Texas State plus a touchdown. Good stuff.
38:24
I'll be watching baseball. I will too.
38:26
Yeah. And then maybe a little bit or
38:28
so to wild Winnipeg Jets between periods.
38:31
I will not make. It make their first appearance
38:34
against the Wild this year. I didn't think it would be.
38:36
So no, no, didn't get there. Mitch Holtis will join us
38:39
tomorrow. We'll talk more about the Monday
38:40
nighter from last night with the Chiefs, who are now officially
38:43
in the playoffs. Should the playoffs start today,
38:46
that would be the seventh seed taking on the New England
38:49
Patriots in New England. How about that?
38:51
Seen that game before? Have a time or two, have we not?
38:55
Different quarterback for the Patriots, though?
38:56
I don't. At least I believe that would be
38:58
the case. Anyways, that's it for us.
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