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Maddie Caffrey: The Callous Daoboys | Furnace Fest 2023 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Ride Dallas Bad. What did you all right? Today? We have Maddie
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  from the Callistowboys, one of our new, like more newer favorite bands right
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  now. They are just like absolutely cilling it. It's so cool to see
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  the Calistow Boys kind of like really pop off over the last couple of years.
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  Uh, it's just it's got to be a really exciting time for the
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  band. So anyway, we're really excited to chat a little bit more about
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  your guys history, all the things you guys got going on here soon.
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  But yeah, with that said, are you doing Maddie. I'm doing well.
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  I'm awesome. We're stoked. We're about to leave for Europe in a
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  few days, so we've all been a little crazy because of that. But
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  it's exciting. So that's how I'm doing. Yeah, do you want to
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  talk a little bit about kind of how the cows Dowboys like got together?
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  Kind of what's the whole history. I know there's been a number of like
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  lineup changes even in a few short years the band's been around, But yeah,
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  do you want to talk a little bit about kind of those early days
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  and just kind of the brief history of the cows Dowboys. Yeah, sure,
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  So Carson and I met when our vocalist Carson him and I met when
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  we were like seniors in high school. I think through a Christian coffee shops
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  karaoke in DJ night that was going on in Yeah, in my small town
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  that I'm from. Carson grew up like the next town over, and we
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  just happen to have like a mutual friend that she was just like the two
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  of y'all have all the same music in commons, so you need to meet.
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  But anyway, was Carson. I started an emo band originally that didn't
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  really go anywhere, but he taught me how to play guitar just so we
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  could be in bands together. Basically, Yeah, we had We had this
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  emo band for like two ish years and just played around Atlanta like put out
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  a couple of p's didn't really like do a ton with it. And then
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  we started Dowboys with another member of that band was a part of the original
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  lineup, and then a couple of other friends, including our violinist and keyboardist
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  now Amber. We started Cowboys kind of just as like a it was supposed
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  to be like a joke, I would imagine with a name like the Cowistowboys
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  that it would be a joke. Yeah. We It was Carson's first time
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  like really doing like vocals, and he really wanted an outlet for that.
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  I gotta be honest, I did not like most metal or like metalcore hardcore
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  when we started the band, and I was just like, yeah, this
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  will be this is funny. Like we were just like we're trying to play
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  like the most upsetting and loud and like chaotic music as our abilities allowed us
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  to at the time, which was not a ton when we first started,
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  but yeah, we were The original goal was we wanted to get onto booked
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  with country bands, and we wanted to advertise ourselves as a country band and
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  then go there and play like the most fucked up music that we could.
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  You know, That's been like a lifelong dream of mine. Like I've always
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  wanted to like come up with like a country album, yeah, like do
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  it completely straight, like like like a typical country artist wouldn't, and then
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  like the next album just have it be like the most like raucous, ridiculous
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  metal music possible. So I gain all these like weird ass country fans.
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  Yeah, that alienate them right away. I think it'd be hilarious. I
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  wish there was more crossover in those There should be, right, there should
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  be. It's like country music because it's gotten so stale and like it won't
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  take any risks, and I wish there was more of a market out there,
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  but I think I'm probably in the very small market that would enjoy that.
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  But is southern metal? Would that be considered like country metal? Then
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  it's a stretch. I think it's. Yeah, Like I don't think it's
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  that far off, but like I think a lot of butt metal gets into
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  territories like that and stuff too. That's because like the product, the production
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  is basically the exact same now, oh yeah, totally especially yeah, sorry,
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  country production has like gone down the toilet. That's like a totally you
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  could I could go off on this because like I'm a big fan of like
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  old school country music, and like the way that it's made now is like
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  they know, they don't hardly track a real drum or like a real guitar
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  through an amp or nothing like. Yeah, but anyways, yeah, we
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  are. I do have to ask this. You know, you said it
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  was a Christian yoky coffee house. It was. It was a Christian coffee
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  shop. That was like for teenagers and it was like brightside. Yeah,
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  they had like a they would have like a karaoke night. Carson and I
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  did, like within five minutes of meeting each other, we did Beverly Hills
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  by Weezer. Question I wanted to hear, that's the question secular. Yeah,
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  it had to be like clean and PG and whatever. They weren't like
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  fundamentally they weren't crazy. So was it like instead of like the like the
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  background Volco was like or whatever? You did you go like jeesus Yeah?
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  Those yeah, but we totally did that part. We did little Christian ad
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  libs too. That was what Weezer was missing this whole time, I think
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  was there you go? Yeah? Other issue. So so you you all
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  met like in high school and just like slowly people just started like joining the
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  band. And then it was like twenty sixteen or seventeen that you all release
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  like your first eph We've formed in late twenty sixteen, and then it would
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  have been like twenty seventeen. Then yeah, in twenty seventeen we released two
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  EPs, oh okay, and we just did like a ton of like local
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  shows and we would do like some regional stuff to like there's other parts of
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  Georgia you can kind of drive to for shows. So we just did like
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  a bunch of local and regional stuff and then basically by the end of that
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  year, we had decided that we just really wanted it to be a serious
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  band, and so, like the first lineup changes kind of came with like
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  basically separating who was here for a joke and who was here to take it
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  seriously and truthfully. Back then, to take it seriously, it feels a
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  little silly. It wants to take the callous cowboys seriously. Yeah, it
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  was like, you guys are not committed. Well, I mean, come
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  on, no, but think about it. The Beatles is literally a pun
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  so like we're just like them. Yeah, we're basically the same. Yeah,
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  it's not that it's not that wild of of an idea, Yeah,
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  but but it all take it seriously at that point then, yeah, we
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  start So we started to take it seriously. Around like beginning of twenty eighteen,
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  we changed our lineup a little bit, and it's the lineup that recorded
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  Diane Mars and Celebrity and Celebrity Therapists. There's a couple of extra people on
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  Celebrity therapist, but we did like a single. It's called the Multi Stage
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  Rocket or Great Multi Stage Rocket. Robbery. Almost forgot about that song,
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  but we basically as soon as we changed our lineup, we just like went
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  in and did a single because like recording EPs at first, like we did
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  them like super just shitty d I y like all of us did like live
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  take like live tracking like everybody in a room, except basically Carson. Carson
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  was the only one that got like isolated and recorded separately. But yeah,
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  we we decided we were gonna like bright one short song and we're gonna actually
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  go be a real band and see like see what that means, how much
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  it costs, like what all it entails to like actually go and record in
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  a nice studio, have somebody like actually mix and master it properly and stuff.
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  And from there on it kind of gave us like a little bit of
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  a pathway to getting ready to did it a record din Mars. Basically,
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  like we wanted to have a trial rund of like making music the way you're
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  supposed to make it before we just like went into an album of like that,
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  we wanted to actually sound good and not just like a shitty d I
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  y band. But yeah, I remember when Diane Mars came out and it
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  made It might have been like a year after the album came out, but
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  I remember somebody reaching out and was like, hey, I know you really
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  like the Chariot. I mean, like the Chariots my favorite band of all
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  time. And he was like, this like just seems like an even more
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  like ridiculous version of the Chariot. You need to check it out. So
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  I think it was like fake Dinosaur Bones or something, one of those songs.
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  Yeah, and I remember thinking, wow, this is incredible, and
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  that was like probably yeah, three years ago now, and I remember back
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  then it was like, you know, maybe a ten thousand twenty five thousand
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  people like monthly listeners on Spotify and then like I mean it was like pretty
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  early on and then you know, now it's like just blown up and you
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  guys are going to Europe and like it just at some point it felt like
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  whoa, Like not only were you all trying to be a real band,
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  but this now feels like a real band. Like there's money coming in.
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  I'm a certain agree. I would imagine sharing at home. So I don't
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  know, but you're paying some bills with it. Yeah, I mean it
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  seems it seems like this is like kind of exploding, like people really are
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  paying attention. And yeah, at what point did it really feel like,
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  whoa this is? This is a thing like this, This doesn't feel like
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  just like we're going to only be able to be like a Georgia band,
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  but we're actually gonna be able to go all across the nation and to Europe.
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  Like when did it feel like, wow, this was this is a
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  thing that's happening. I can't speak for all of my bandmates if we have
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  like we had a collective like thought about that. I know for a fact,
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  Carson and I from day one have been like, oh my god,
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  we're gonna be world famous, like because even when we were like a really
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  shitty band, are like that you can't tell us we've ever had a boring
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  show, Like anybody who's seen us like they like, even when we were
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  not worth the ship, even when no one on the internet knew who we
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  were and people were at our shows, they were going crazy, and that's
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  like that was kind of the only thing that we needed, you know,
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  to like know that this was going to be like something that we wanted to
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  take seriously and really believe in. But I don't know when it exactly felt
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  like real or anything. Like the first time I think we did like a
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  full US tour, I was like, oh my god, I can actually
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  do that. Like I didn't die, like like we we didn't like you
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  know, totally go for broke. I'm not like making a go fund me
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  or anything because like not you know, knock on wood that I don't,
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  but it's a yeah anytime like we do stuff like that, that kind of
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  like validated that, like, oh my god, this is a real thing.
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  Same thing with like like do you do you ever like have you had
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  the experience yet of you know, I'm sure at some point, like when
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  you go home for like Thanksgiving or Christmas or something like that, and like
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  the you know, your uncle or your grandpa or whoever it would be would
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  say something along the lines of like are you still doing that band thing?
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  Like where as if it's like a hobby, but at some point that like
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  switches where it's like no, actually, this is like a really like people
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  seem to care about this and it's pain like some of the bills like no
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  longer just a hobby. Have you gotten to that point yet, I would
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  imagine, so I don't know exactly which point it would be, but like
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  I know, my dad always would kind of like bust my balls about how
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  much money I dumped into this band and everything, because the whole time I
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  was in college, I worked like more than full time hours of work when
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  I really I was still living at home. I really didn't need to.
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  It was just that I was like pouring all of my money back into the
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  and like doing a full course load to college and we were gigging and writing
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  like all that. But we I think the first time we sold out of
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  vinyl pressing for Dion Mars, I was like explaining that to my dad,
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  like explaining that we had just sold we sold because we sold out two vinyl
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  pressings of Dion Mars, which we have a third repress in the way,
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  but it like takes forever, but yeah, I was like explaining that to
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  him that I'm like, yeah, like first I got to explained the vinyl
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  records are back and that and that, like CD sales are kind of inconsequential
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  at this point, but like we move a ton of vinyl. But I
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  was like, I was like explaining that to him that I was like,
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  we we just there that many people want this vinyl, not just that that
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  many people wanted it, but like people go back and they like people are
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  reselling it for like one hundred and fifty bucks for like the first pressing of
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  it when it originally sold for twenty five. I think, but you just
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  screwed over someone's business plan by by saying this is gonna be a third pressing.
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  Well, some people still want the first pressing and everything, so like,
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  you know, whatever, they're gonna honestly good because I don't need somebody
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  making one hundred and fifty dollars off of something that we were only able to
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  sell for twenty five that Yeah, no, I don't give a shit if
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  you're selling it for that much. But but yeah, that was like the
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  first time my dad was like, oh my god, like this is like
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  a real thing that you're doing. And I was like, yeah, I've
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  been trying to tell you this whole time, Like, yeah, did you
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  ask him when he's gonna buy his vinyl? Oh? He he bugs me
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  for him all the time, and we, uh, I shouldn't admit this
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  or anything, but we we had a auction like maybe a couple of months
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  back where we had some test pressings of Celebrity Therapist and we're just trying to
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  like raise a couple extra funds for like, you know, all of our
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  summer touring and whatnot. But we basically set aside like eight pressing or test
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  presses. Carson made these like really nice handwritten lyric sheets and like he made
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  one sheet for like each song and put them up for auction, and I
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  basically told everyone like, hey, if these like hit over a certain price,
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  then like I'll just include like a bunch of other like I keep like
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  random bits of our merch just to have his keepsakes. And also like every
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  so often, somebody does you a really cool favor, and I like want
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  to be able to give them like a cool artifact from the Calistow Boys if
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  I can. But anyways, we put them up like on eBay for auction,
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  and all of them went for over two hundred dollars apiece, and a
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  couple of them hit like five hundred dollars. Wow. But my dad was
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  in there like bidding on them, and I'm like, I can see you
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  don't do that. I was like, I'll give you one. Like he's
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  just he's just bumping the market. I know. I'm like, we're just
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  bumping up the prices. Don't do this, Like if somebody, if they're
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  able to see that someone with my same last name won one of these like
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  that also, you could just give me that money, Like what are you
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  doing? It reminds me of like Storage Wars, like you know that,
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  like TLC show or whatever, just like they're like fake bidding, like they'll
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  just like, yeah, drive up that bid just to yeah, yeah,
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  he's just gassing you guys. My dad would have done the exact same thing
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  though. Yeah. It's like when your dad like buys girl Scout cookies from
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  you, Yeah, but exactly what it is just five Girl Scout cookies.
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  Look, so let's talk about Celebrity Therapists, because it felt like that was
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  as much as like Diane Mars was really already starting to like there was momentum
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  there, but like I still remember everybody in like the heavy music world just
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  like freaked out when Celebrity Therapists, Like it was one of those albums where
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  I think a lot of people didn't know who you were before then, and
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  then all of a sudden, there was all this buzz because of like how
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  much people love that album, and so yeah, did did you kind of
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  get that sense of Celebrity Therapist being just like a big deal? And then
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  it was like it like it really was only continuing that like momentum of growth
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  for you all. Yeah, for sure, I think I don't know the
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  second that we kind of like, or at least for me, the second
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  that we got like the music videos back and like saw it, I was
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  like, oh my god, this looks like a real band made it.
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  This doesn't look like like the dad of Mars music videos. Don't get me
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  wrong, I'm also very proud of those as well, But I don't know
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  something about just like seeing and hearing it all together and whatnot that I'm like,
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  oh, this looks like something that like I mean, I mean,
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  it's cool to have a feeling of like we make things that I'm genuinely like,
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  I genuinely love, Like if I wasn't in this band, I would
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  be like that's the coolest shit ever too. But yeah, I think we
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  also put out Celebrity Therapists on a label, so that felt a little bit
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  more like this was something a little bit bigger than Dion Mars because Dan Mars.
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  We were all of us were like scraping together every single penny that we
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  had, and like we were selling all of our possessions and whatever to fund
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  that record and like the music, Yeah, I love it. Yeah,
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  So it's like, not not do you not only do you have a cult
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  following? You guys are just literally a cult. Yeah, some days we're
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  the I'd like to think we're a little bit more like a family. Oh
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  that's how they all start out there, Yeah, they all start We're just
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  a family here. Yeah, we uh. I think if we were a
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  cult, we'd all probably listen to Carson a little bit more. Baby,
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  that's true. I didn't seem to be that's strong of a patriarch in this
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  cult, which means it might not actually be a cult. Then. Yeah,
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  I mean we're we're pretty we're pretty democratic. We all pretty like I
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  think, I say like we're like a family because we all like we bicker
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  all like all sorts of ways. I think Dan and I the one who
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  was supposed to be on this interview too, Dan and I fight like constantly.
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  Now I'm really bunn that he's off the call. I know it would
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  be real juicy. I'm sure but yeah, to the point that, like
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  Dan and I do everything together, we're best friends, but we do bicker,
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  Like what what is crazy? So there's gonna be a lot of cow
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  Stowboy fans obviously listening to this episode. And I'm sure you, like,
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  have you know, gotten to know some of your fans. What is the
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  one kind of like bickering maybe it's between you and Dan or somebody else in
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  the band. What's the one piece of bickering that you're like, people,
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  probably we should know about this or like it'd be kind of funny if our
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  fans knew about this. Oh man, we're not going to give our fans
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  flavor aid. We're not a cult. I don't know, well, is
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  it like I mean, like there's a million things I could talk about with
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  Like Colin and I are best friends. Should we probably have had like plenty
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  of little like spats or whatever. I'm sure people, if they actually cared
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  about us, would want to know some of those things. But nobody cares
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  about Culin and I Like people care about the cow Stowboys, So I'm sure
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  there's something that they like. The fans of Cowistowboys are like spilled the tea,
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  right now, Maddie, Oh, it's so tough. I don't know.
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  So Dan and I are kind of like, I don't know how to
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  explain it. We're kind of like day to day managers, and depending on
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  who you ask and what it's about, either of us will say we're more
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  important like whatever sounds yeah, So, like I don't I don't know what
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  explate. It was a form of bickery. I don't know. Like the
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  most tame example I can probably think of is driving. Dan Carson and I
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  all drive the most, like when we're on tour, and uh Dan and
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  I are both like dead convinced that we are the best driver and that everybody
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  else who drives is stupid and doesn't know what they're doing, and like and
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  it's gonna kill all of us, Like I don't know that one. Uh
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  so who's driving in Europe? We actually hired a driver that's probably smart,
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  which is so fancy. We've I've never not had. That's that's you've you're
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  now a real band, Maddie, You're really that one. Yeah, truthfully,
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  we're like we just started touring with like an actual crew member, like
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  for the first time this year, and it's our front of house tech Chris,
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  and like literally before that, we have never had a single bit of
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  help doing like anything when it comes to touring. So like, I don't
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  know that it turns into like a little bit of like a twenty four hour
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  job for us, But I'm very excited to not have to drive in Europe
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  and then nobody else has to. Why not make Chris drive? Oh,
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  because Chris is because you're the best driver. Well, I'm not gonna say
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  Chris is never driven, because he's like, that's not my job description,
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  and I'm like, that's fair. I'm paying you to be the front of
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  house tech. I'm like, I'm not going to ask you to drive.
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  So if you're the driver of the Cowistowboys, does that mean that you get
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  to man the radio and like who who like what playlist is being played and
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  what albums are being played? Yes? Typically typically whoever's driving, they get
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  to kind of be the one that decides or whoever is like co piloting or
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  what are Is there ever any bickering about that because I would imagine there's probably
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  a variety of taste and some people don't necessarily like some of the music that's
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  being played because the person's driving, so we do this thing. Have you
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  guys ever played Skip Game? I don't think so. It's a Spotify game,
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  very fun to do if you're on road trips or like with a group
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  of people or whatever. It is basically, you make a public like Spotify
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  playlist and you can you can like add like songs or whatever to the queue.
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  Do it right, Yes, you can add. Everybody can add songs
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  to the queue for it. Basically will if we're in the mood to play
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  Skip game well, or if like somebody can't think of anything to put on,
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  or we're trying to really like burn time, we'll start a skip game
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  playlist and it's basically everybody throws in the most upsetting songs possible, and the
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  goal is to for every time somebody in the van says that they need to
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  skip one of the songs on there, that person gets one point right.
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  First person to like five points loses. Just an example. So, and
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  it can be upsetting in any way, shape or form, Like it doesn't
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  have to be just like this is a really bad song. It could be
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  like these are really like horrible lyrics or something like that. Anything that is
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  just intolerable to listen to and Okay, Maddie, do you want? Do
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  you want? Are you ready to win? Here? Sure? What's the
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  winter Cullen. Remember when we were talking to Zao and they were talking about
• 23:22
  this this band that only has lyrics about urine. Yeah, Yellow River Boys.
• 23:26
  Okay, Yellow River Boys, Maddie, play any one of those songs.
• 23:32
  I think they have like a few albums. Zao was telling us about
• 23:36
  them. Literally every single song is just about like like it's about pi urine,
• 23:41
  peen in people's mouths, like that whole thing. Like just but it
• 23:42
  sounds like it's a really well produced, like country bluegrass kind of album.
• 23:48
  It's hilarious. That's insane. I will definitely check that out. I might
• 23:52
  end up enjoying it. But basically it's on point. It's very very really
• 23:57
  but it's all uh piss choke. That's insane. So now now you will
• 24:06
  be the winner of the skip game. That'll be in my arsenal. Yeah.
• 24:10
  No, that game is good, especially if you know the people that
• 24:11
  you're with, you can like just add in like their least face, like
• 24:15
  whatever song they just like fucking hate, Like you add that in there and
• 24:19
  it'll just you just have to sit there and watch everybody get driven insane too.
• 24:23
  I am told it's very funny. Next time Mason and I go on
• 24:26
  her trip. Yeah this sounds great. Yeah, I'm already excited for it.
• 24:33
  All right, So let's talk about furnace Fest that we're here. Colin
• 24:38
  and I have got this little fun deal this year where we're doing all these
• 24:41
  like furnace Fest bands. We're interviewing all these furnace Fest bands about the festival.
• 24:45
  And so that means, as a listener right now, if you still
• 24:48
  have not gotten tickets to furnace Fest, which you should have, but if
• 24:52
  you have not, still, please go get a ticket to furnace Fest so
• 24:56
  you can see a band like the Calista Boys absolutely go insane on stage.
• 25:02
  There have been some really great performances at furnace Fest the last couple of years.
• 25:06
  I don't know, like if I had to put money on the best
• 25:08
  performance ever in furnace Fest history, I think the Dallas Cowboys would be a
• 25:12
  really good bet on that. So if you haven't bought tickets yet, the
• 25:15
  Callistow Boys, it's the Sorry the Cows. I get that so well for
• 25:21
  so long, and then like finally it's slipped. I'm sure. I'm sure
• 25:26
  it's not the first time that's slipped. Yeah, so it happens all the
• 25:29
  time. Yeah, I would imagine even some band members have let that slip
• 25:33
  every now and then when they're not thinking about it too hard. Oh yeah,
• 25:36
  it's there's now an artist called the Dallas Cowboys, so we have to
• 25:40
  be careful, oh, letting it slip. Don't want to have a mix
• 25:44
  up. Do you want Jerry Jones down your back trying to see you.
• 25:47
  Yeah, Well, if you haven't gotten tickets yet, please go get tickets
• 25:52
  so you can see a band like the Callistowboys, because again, my bet
• 25:56
  is it might be one of the best Furnace Fest performances as ever. And
• 26:00
  there's some been some great ones, I'm telling you. So you're putting a
• 26:03
  lot of pressure on us. There's a lot of pressure, but I think
• 26:06
  the cow Stowboys can actually live up to that pressure. I think it'll be
• 26:10
  the only one with a fiddle too, So probably probably, I mean truthfully,
• 26:15
  even if it goes bad, I got a free ticket of Furnace Fst.
• 26:17
  So like, if y'all don't show up, I don't care. I
• 26:19
  get to I get to be there for free all weekend. So so let's
• 26:25
  talk about at least a little hint or two about the set. I mean,
• 26:27
  I don't know if there hasn't even any been any decisions made about like
• 26:32
  what songs you're gonna play, any cool shit you're gonna do, But like,
• 26:34
  is there any little insider information that we can reveal to our listeners about,
• 26:40
  Hey, this is what the caw Stowboys are gonna be doing at Furnace
• 26:42
  Fest. Oh? Man, honestly, I don't, genuinely, So we
• 26:49
  tried. We try to change up our sets pretty often. I don't know
• 26:52
  if either of y'all have seen us, but we furnace Fest will be the
• 26:56
  first time I get to see you all, which I'm wow, Oh yeah,
• 27:00
  yeah. We'll definitely have something special for this because usually, like we
• 27:04
  basically change up the set every tour, and you know, we have like
• 27:08
  stupid little transitions and like we'll do like tiny little nuances of like rearrangements of
• 27:15
  the songs or like sometimes like on one or two of the songs, will
• 27:21
  like play the breakdown a second time, but it'll be like really slow,
• 27:25
  or we'll drop tune it, or we'll like we always like have like like
• 27:27
  we try to change up our set as much as possible so that way,
• 27:32
  if you come to see us multiple times, you'll get to see something different.
• 27:36
  I gotta say, with Europe kind of on our brains for this coming
• 27:38
  week, I don't even know if we've fully put together our set list for
• 27:42
  this one. I will say I believe we're playing something that's never been played
• 27:51
  live before, but okay, I can't reveal too much information about that,
• 27:56
  but yeah, we should have something that is super duper new ready for that
• 28:03
  that might be worth the price of admission just right there. That's that's what
• 28:06
  I'm saying. Yeah, if you haven't bought the ticket deferences is cal Stowboys
• 28:11
  one of those bands that goes by like working titles instead of like the actual
• 28:15
  album titles or do you have or are the album titles the same thing as
• 28:19
  you're working titles? Usually so like a lot of the times the the demos
• 28:26
  will get like some kind of silly name and then by the time that like
• 28:33
  lyrics are done writing for it, and like because a lot of the times
• 28:37
  Carson won't have like the concept of what the song is about. Yeah,
• 28:41
  like done until we're a little bit closer to going into the studios, So
• 28:45
  like we we more keep a lot of all we have lots of long song
• 28:48
  titles. Yeah, kind of like some of them, so like we more
• 28:53
  have like little shorthands that we refer to him. We have a song called
• 28:57
  a brief article regarding Timeloop. And what people don't know is everybody will come
• 29:03
  up to me, like fans will come up to me and be like,
• 29:06
  I love a brief article, and I'm always like, what are you talking
• 29:07
  about? We called that song time loops for like three years straight, and
• 29:11
  I forget that. It's like this whole long name and I'm like, what
• 29:15
  song is that? Colin? Do you want to say? Why you ask
• 29:18
  that? Because we've already brought up the Chariot. I feel like this is
• 29:21
  where you were going with that, right, I wasn't. I wasn't going
• 29:22
  to talk about the Chariot because you always talk about the Chariot on every episode
• 29:26
  for well, I mean, how can you not though? Right, No,
• 29:30
  there's a lot of bands. It's not just the Chariot, but a
• 29:33
  lot of bands will well well obviously only remember their song names based off their
• 29:37
  working titles and not the titles but yeah, I figured with with a band
• 29:42
  like cows now Boys, that you guys would probably do that as well,
• 29:45
  but I wasn't sure. Well, it's fun. Speaking of the Chariot,
• 29:49
  an old working title, we didn't release it under this name, but an
• 29:53
  old working title for one of our songs was called before There's John's Creek.
• 29:59
  There was Alpha just so for the most of the time that Carson and I
• 30:07
  knew each other, like in the early stages of the band, Carson lived
• 30:11
  in John's Creek and I lived in Alpharetta, and they're just John's Creek is
• 30:15
  also basically just Alpharetta. They're just like two Atlanta suburbs that are right beside
• 30:18
  each other. But yeah, there's that one. There's one called it was
• 30:23
  called like two Cans, Sam's Death Fairy, Midnight Death Fairy or something.
• 30:30
  It's Carson will like be so annoyed that I've done didn't remember. I just
• 30:34
  remember it was called two Cans, like for shorthand we called it two Kids
• 30:37
  Sam for a long time. We did another one too that was really good.
• 30:41
  But yeah, so we don't have that many like crazy working names,
• 30:48
  Like yeah, I love that. I mean, it's still great. I
• 30:52
  mean Actually, I think a lot of like those working titles reveals a little
• 30:56
  bit about like kind of the madness behind some of the breens that are working
• 31:00
  on some of these bands. And I think Calistow Boys is one of those
• 31:02
  bands where it's just like, this seems like such a a band that like
• 31:07
  has been on the internet before. I'll just put it that way. Yeah.
• 31:11
  Yeah, If there's anything you could say about us is that we're definitely
• 31:12
  logged on in one way or another. But yeah, totally. All right,
• 31:21
  Well you said that you're going to be around Furnace Fast for the entire
• 31:23
  weekend. Oh yeah, totally. I'm sure there's a lot of bands that
• 31:27
  you're looking for. And I forget what day you guys are playing. I
• 31:30
  don't remember what is it, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday? We play
• 31:33
  Sunday, Sunday. Okay, so you're at the end of the week,
• 31:37
  which you know, or the weekend. But what is the what is like
• 31:41
  a few what are a few of the bands that you're looking forward to seeing
• 31:44
  in at Furnace Fast Friday, Saturday or even Sunday. Top of my list
• 31:51
  is probably Armor for Sleep. Oh their album What to Do when You're Dead
• 31:56
  or whatever. I've been listening to that shit since I was like, well
• 32:00
  and I've never seen them live, even like because they've gotten back together.
• 32:05
  Well, obviously they're back together, but like any of the tours that have
• 32:07
  come through Atlanta, I just either was on tour or busy, I don't
• 32:12
  know. Anyways, very excited. They're a very formative band. That record
• 32:15
  is like super important to me. I'm very excited to see them, Very
• 32:19
  excited to see Scowl who. This is the second time we've played a festival
• 32:24
  that they've also been on. But last year we played. Do you know
• 32:29
  what the fest in Florida is? Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's
• 32:32
  more of like I don't want to say, like gaslight anthem type bands,
• 32:37
  but it's like it's more of like a punk and like that kind of fest.
• 32:40
  They book us on there though, and we do really well. But
• 32:44
  it's all in like small it's basically a bunch of small clubs that are rented
• 32:47
  out and then they host a music festival and then there's one big like amphitheater
• 32:51
  stage. But anyways, the line to get into Scowl was so long that
• 32:57
  like I I, like, you know, I went to walk over there
• 33:02
  like fifteen minutes before they started because I wanted to make sure I could like
• 33:05
  have a cool place to watch them or whatever. And I stood in the
• 33:07
  line. By the time I get to the front of the line, they're
• 33:10
  basically done with. They're set, and I was like, I wanted to
• 33:14
  see them so bad, very excited to see them. Better lovers is on
• 33:19
  it now, too, right? How cool is that going to be?
• 33:22
  Amazing? I'm so excited, Like every time I die was like, I
• 33:25
  think kind of why we started now, boys like that was the first medal.
• 33:30
  You have a symbol that's literally signed by their drummer. I do oh
• 33:34
  really like the current drummer. Yeah that's right, but back when he was
• 33:40
  with Norma Jeane. Yeah, we've got a symbol from Norma Jean and he's
• 33:44
  got it signed. That's so cool. Oh my god, that's awesome.
• 33:50
  Yeah, don't get bitten. My basement's crawling with spiders. That was a
• 33:57
  huge spider. Sorry, so scowl armor for sleep and and better lovers and
• 34:06
  better lovers. Oh hold on, let me look at I don't I didn't
• 34:07
  need to block out my thing. Let me look at the lineup again,
• 34:12
  because I can't remember it's just a killer lineup, and I gotta imagine that
• 34:15
  with better Lovers. Carson's probably pretty influenced by great PUSHI outa right, Oh
• 34:22
  yeah, absolutely, they have some similarities that I've that have heard. Yeah,
• 34:29
  Carson's definitely like looks up to him a lot. I think Dillinger and
• 34:32
  Every Time I Die were like two of the more like important bands to you
• 34:37
  know, why we started this. You can totally hear both of them in
• 34:42
  Calistow Boys, Yeah, I'd hope so a little bit. What's interesting though,
• 34:46
  is I would say with with Dowboys, there's a little bit, there's
• 34:50
  a lot, not a little bit, there's a lot more melody involved than
• 34:52
  those two bands. Yeah. I think that's something that has started to get
• 34:59
  stronger just as we've gone on. Carson I talked about this sometimes because like,
• 35:02
  because our first band was like an emo band, we kind of wanted
• 35:06
  to have something that was like we wanted it to be like a real like
• 35:10
  melodic, post hardcore, like kind of jazzy going thing. And I think
• 35:17
  what we kind of realized with now Boys is that like the further we got
• 35:21
  into this, the more we realize that there are really no rules to what
• 35:23
  we were doing, I think, and some of the more melodic parts are
• 35:25
  kind of like Carson, I bring in some of our emo and like melodic
• 35:30
  post hardcore roots into what we're doing, which has been really cool that we
• 35:34
  like actually are able to pull that off. I'm sure some people think we
• 35:38
  don't, but I think I really like it. Is it a requirement to
• 35:44
  have ADHD in h House Boys? I mean, I think I might be
• 35:50
  one of the only ones in the band that doesn't, But I also am
• 35:53
  too afraid to find that out. Yeah, I think all of definitely have
• 36:00
  a I feel like it's not so much ADHD, but I feel like we
• 36:04
  definitely have a little bit of the I hate to say, zoomer like mentality.
• 36:09
  Yeah. Yeah, Like you ever watched those videos that are like family
• 36:14
  guy clips and Subway Surfer clips and then ASMR video clips and then like a
• 36:17
  podcast talking about have you no idea what you're talking about? It's basically these
• 36:25
  videos that are just meant to like hold your attention, and there's like five
• 36:29
  different things happening, and so if you are ever like bored of any of
• 36:34
  them, you can kind of like your eyes can just flick back and forth
• 36:36
  between them whatever. That's like, that's a little bit of how I think
• 36:39
  of our music sometimes. Can I ask you when you graduated high school?
• 36:44
  Uh, twenty fourteen. I'm not that young, but so you would have
• 36:50
  yeah, you would have been a are you a gen's here? I'm like
• 36:53
  right on the cusp. You're like, yeah, you're You're kind of a
• 36:57
  cusper right there. Yeah, I'm the oldest, not quite the oldest one
• 37:00
  in the band. Our drummer, our newer drummer. Now he's older than
• 37:05
  me, but everybody else is like about a year or so younger than me
• 37:07
  at least. Okay, so okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. The
• 37:14
  video you just talked about sounds awful to me myself watching him all the time.
• 37:21
  I'm like, it's like just even thinking about it is giving me anxiety.
• 37:27
  It's on. It's like you go on TikTok or like Instagram reels or
• 37:31
  whatever. You'll find them eventually, but it's like it's literally like it's it's
• 37:38
  a I don't know, it's like good for your brain. If you have
• 37:43
  like ADHD to watch all the like, it's probably not good for your brain.
• 37:45
  It feels satisfied. But one question that I find a little silly,
• 37:53
  but just gotta ask at least I guess. So obviously, there's the cowboys
• 37:58
  in the Cowistwboys. There's that word. Has anybody ever like misunderstood you or
• 38:05
  like misidentified you all as being like daois there's one time there is at least
• 38:13
  one time, well not not like no, this guy tried to cancel us
• 38:17
  for like culture appropriation, and I'm like, that is such an insane stretch
• 38:22
  because we literally just like we could have said d o W and I think
• 38:28
  more people would understand what we're doing, but like we kind of wanted to
• 38:30
  spell it weird to throw people off a little bit. All the stock market
• 38:35
  people would have been upset. Then, yeah, exactly. There's this cool
• 38:39
  guy on if you if you Google or not google, if you YouTube,
• 38:44
  the callis Dowboys, but you spell it d ow. There's this guy who's
• 38:46
  dressed like the unibomber, who like made this like video of himself. I
• 38:53
  know, rest in past the Nimber go Teddy, But no, there's this
• 39:02
  this old guy who made this little like video manifesto of himself dressed but like
• 39:08
  the UNI bomber, and he's talking about like all the people in Wall Street
• 39:15
  and he calls he keeps calling them the callous Dawboys, and the video is
• 39:17
  hardest fuck. It doesn't have that many views, but we used to sample
• 39:21
  it in our live set because yes, he ended the video being like the
• 39:25
  callous cowboys don't give a fuck about you, and we're like, that is
• 39:32
  awesome, that's too cool. Back, I know it's I should like post
• 39:37
  it on Twitter or something, because I don't know if many people know about
• 39:39
  that, but that is that is how you should like as you guys are
• 39:45
  like getting ready, like you're on the stage at Furnace Fest, pick up
• 39:47
  your guitar, you're ready to go, and then right literally like a second
• 39:52
  before you're ready to play your first song, just callous Dawboys, don't give
• 39:55
  a fuss about you, and then just rip into whatever you guys go into.
• 40:00
  It's an idea, for sure, just an idea, just an idea.
• 40:04
  And this like this guy's like it's completely unrelated, Like this guy has
• 40:07
  no idea about you, all right, No, so he must have uploaded
• 40:10
  that like right around the time that we started the band, or maybe like
• 40:14
  right before, so like nobody like really nobody do us. He just like
• 40:19
  sit on his chest and like wanted to let it off. I don't I
• 40:22
  don't know what his name is. It was like something, how did he
• 40:24
  spell it? Like yeah, dow because he's talking about like Wall Street people
• 40:31
  or whatever. Yeah's let' see if we can find it. We have to
• 40:35
  watch it on here if we can. It's on YouTube. Yeah, it
• 40:38
  should be on YouTube. All right, hopefully it wasn't taken down. It's
• 40:40
  just gonna be difficult to find on YouTube now because like it's just gonna want
• 40:45
  to like go to Calistowboys like you guys. Yeah, oh, here it
• 40:50
  is here it is. Nope, I see you find it? Yep,
• 40:52
  No, it is the that's funny, all right? You ready for this?
• 40:54
  Yeah, okay, I'm gonna share my my window here. This is
• 41:00
  this is great. I love this already. Is he a white supremast too?
• 41:06
  He looks like it, doesn't he? Well, it's Super Bowl Sunday.
• 41:10
  But I'm here to talk to you about another group, not the Patriots,
• 41:19
  not the Seahawks. In fact, the group I'm talking about they are
• 41:28
  the callous down boys, and they are the people who run Wall Street.
• 41:37
  These are the people who give themselves massive multimillion dollars bonuses. They're already billionaires,
• 41:47
  but still they give themselves five hundred million as a bonus for doing nothing
• 41:55
  so far. I'm on board, Americans. Yeah, I mean, he
• 42:00
  this is crazy, this is he ain't wrong. These people don't give a
• 42:09
  fuck about you. They are the callous dowboys. I misremember that. That's
• 42:25
  perfect. That all, that's all a coincidence. Yeah, like literate.
• 42:30
  So when we were like I think first getting like our little social media presence
• 42:37
  together, we're just like googling like if anybody had anything possibly related to that
• 42:43
  name, and we're just going through every single result like that would come up,
• 42:46
  just to just to make sure nobody was gonna like come after us,
• 42:50
  as if like the Dallas Cowboys might not come after us. But yeah,
• 42:54
  we found that video and we just thought it was so funny. He just
• 42:58
  had some ship on his chest. Just the fucking let everybody know. I'm
• 43:05
  on board with the guy. I'm I'm a believer. Fall's not He's not
• 43:07
  wrong. He's really not. Like he's not a fan of the Wall Street
• 43:13
  people. Yeah. Well, uh, Maddie, let's get into your top
• 43:20
  five most influential albums. I'm sure you're very, very prepared for this.
• 43:22
  So we're looking forward to the bands or the artists and the albums that have
• 43:28
  influenced you in your life. So kind of go, you know, you
• 43:30
  can go and order, you can go like chronologically, do whatever you want.
• 43:35
  So yeah, five influential albums of your life. Oh okay, I
• 43:40
  feel like like number one spot and nothing while have your Unseat. This is
• 43:47
  Relationship of Command by At the Drive In. Wow, great fucking album.
• 43:53
  Yeah, that's like to me, that's like a perfect album. I just
• 43:58
  I think it's amazing. I discovered it when I was likely thirteen or fourteen,
• 44:01
  and like I didn't even understand like when I was first listening to it,
• 44:05
  like when I was in middle school, I didn't fully grasp everything that
• 44:08
  was happening. Like I didn't fully understand like why it was so cool,
• 44:13
  And I still thought it was cool, and like it's one of those it's
• 44:15
  like I can just keep listening to it and like find something new to love
• 44:20
  about it, and like it's cool to like have something that you can continually
• 44:25
  like sink your teeth into, but it's still like so familiar. The At
• 44:29
  the Drive In has one of my favorite music facts of all time and that
• 44:32
  is a thousand dollars a week on weed. Well that is up there.
• 44:38
  I feel like this one's even better than that. But also I'm sure that
• 44:43
  they it wasn't just weed that they were on, but oh yeah, I'm
• 44:45
  sure there was a lot of other things that they were on, because like
• 44:47
  there's no way you can have those kind of shows that they had without Peen
• 44:51
  on something. But they played. It was right around the time of like
• 44:54
  Relationship of Command and they were in Australia, if I rememb Oh yeah,
• 45:00
  the Big day out and everybody like all these huge artists, huge huge artists
• 45:07
  like are being interviewed by MTV and there and the interviewers like, hey,
• 45:10
  who are you looking forward to seeing seeing this like this year or whatever,
• 45:15
  and everybody was saying at the driving at the gotta check out at the driving
• 45:20
  So like it brought up all this type here's what's cool about that. Okay,
• 45:23
  this is a massive music festival in Australia. The stage that they were
• 45:28
  on and that they went all the like like they just fucking destroyed the stage.
• 45:32
  They did whatever they could. That stage was owned by none other than
• 45:37
  the Wiggles. Oh, because they're Australian that's right, yep, And they're
• 45:43
  like, honestly, they're probably the biggest Australian band, like and so yeah,
• 45:47
  they like in Australia, they own all of this, like like stages
• 45:52
  and like massive like amps and shit, like they own all of that.
• 45:57
  So if you're gonna like do a big Australian music full like, the Wiggles
• 46:00
  are the who you like purchased that or rent that from? Yeah, No,
• 46:04
  I fully believe that. I just watched a video essay on the full
• 46:06
  history of the Wiggles. We watched the same video maybe, well except the
• 46:12
  videos that are all like like five of them all. I was watching one
• 46:16
  video, one singular video, while she was listening to a podcast and playing
• 46:21
  a video game, and yeah, I was doing three other things, but
• 46:22
  there's only one video. But no, they like it's crazy how much like
• 46:29
  history they have, and like there's like some drama and scandals and everything.
• 46:32
  Do like that's fascinating. I had no idea about all that, but the
• 46:36
  Wiggles. I fully believe that. Though that's awful. Anyway, That's one
• 46:38
  of my favorite music facts of all time is at the drive in destroyed the
• 46:43
  Wiggles stage. Yeah, that's so sick. So Relationship of Command one of
• 46:50
  the best albums in heavy music ever. Love it. Yes, what else
• 46:53
  you got? Probably say three cheers for Sweet Revenge by My Chemical or ownmans.
• 46:59
  Oh yeah that really. I was like, I feel like it's a
• 47:07
  basic answer, but like, yeah, that's like why I wanted to be
• 47:13
  in a band. Was I used to just like nice watch My Chemical Romance
• 47:16
  videos like freaking constantly. And we played a really cool venue last year called
• 47:23
  the NorVa in Norfolk, Virginia and beautiful theater. It's like been around forever.
• 47:30
  Apparently everybody that is famous ever has played this theater. And I didn't
• 47:35
  know that until after we played our set, Like we we opened, we
• 47:37
  played our set, and then we go to the green room and uh,
• 47:39
  they have signed drumheads from like all of these bands like all over the wall,
• 47:45
  including a couple from my cam and I like went on YouTube and looked
• 47:47
  up their shows and I was able to find all these videos and I was
• 47:50
  like, oh my god, I was just saw that same stage, Like
• 47:52
  that's the craziest thing ever. But yeah that one. Uh so did you
• 47:58
  get into My Chemical Romance because of their songs or because Gerard way is because
• 48:02
  he's so dreamy, Like yeah, oh no, I genuinely listened to them
• 48:08
  because of their songs. But yes, no, I remember my friends showing
• 48:16
  me them when we were like ten, and she was like, look at
• 48:19
  these weird goths and I was like, yeah, that's crazy. And then
• 48:22
  I went home and looked up every single songe. That's exactly how Mason and
• 48:28
  I would have done it. Yeah. Real, you sit around YouTube,
• 48:31
  you look up the back in the day. Yeah, that's how you discovered
• 48:35
  all that. We just wanted to hear who does everyone else think is super
• 48:37
  weird? And we were like, that's what we like exactly. Yes,
• 48:42
  So yeah, that band is super important to me. That record is probably
• 48:44
  my favorite record of theirs. And but yeah, let's see, I'm on
• 48:49
  two, I got three, third one maybe the Big Dirty by Every Time
• 48:55
  I Die. Yeah, just because that's my favor every Time I Die record.
• 49:00
  That's not the first one that I got into, but I don't know,
• 49:05
  I just love that record. It's just so fun. It just has
• 49:07
  like the right amount of production value. That band, Like I really did
• 49:10
  not like a lot of metal and like hardcore, like when we started this
• 49:16
  band and I was about to say, like you said that at the beginning,
• 49:21
  and I'm like, you've already listed the two of like the better hardcore
• 49:23
  bands out there, so I don't know what where are you going with that?
• 49:27
  Well, so at the drive In at the time was like probably the
• 49:29
  heaviest thing I ever listened to, even though really most of the record,
• 49:32
  like they're pretty melodic, you know, they don't have like I think.
• 49:37
  I just I didn't like a ton of screaming. I didn't like a lot
• 49:39
  of metalcore, and to be fair, a lot of it sucks and the
• 49:43
  time that I was yeah, so it's it's very oversaturated, which I feel
• 49:47
  like I have to explain to people all the time that like the metalcore that
• 49:50
  I make is very different than like the like metalcore that Pierced the Veil makes
• 49:54
  no shade to them. I actually really love them, but we're very different.
• 49:58
  I don't know, you guys, as metalcore, we're technically math core,
• 50:05
  and if you want to split a bunch of hairs and everything, that's
• 50:07
  technically a subgenre of metalcore. Yeah. I tell people metalcore just to be
• 50:12
  easy. I don't know what to call it. That makes sense, that
• 50:14
  makes sense, but yeah, I I didn't really like it. Carson made
• 50:19
  me watch every Time I Die at one of the like last Warp tours,
• 50:24
  I think it was in twenty sixteen, and I was like, yeah,
• 50:29
  this band's like, okay, I still don't really like love this genre.
• 50:34
  But their guitarists, the wrestler one Andy. He came out wearing a cowboy
• 50:37
  hat and it's like two o'clock in the afternoon and it's some million degrees outside
• 50:42
  and they are just like they had the most fun ever. And I was
• 50:45
  like, I didn't know these bands were fun, you know, like they
• 50:50
  don't. That band did not take themselves like too seriously ever, and like
• 50:53
  I really loved them for it. And that's kind of like I think,
• 50:58
  you know, more than just like sonically, we kind of like lead with
• 51:00
  a little bit of that ethos that like we're never going to take ourselves like
• 51:05
  two seriously doing this. But but yeah, those are three Oh I guess
• 51:10
  I think of the fourth one. Oh I so this is a little bit
• 51:15
  out of left field, but uh, you know one hundred guess are you
• 51:20
  familiar not to I haven't listened so much. Oh really? So they put
• 51:24
  it out an album called a thousand Guess. They have a couple of albums
• 51:28
  out now, but their breakout album is called A thousand Guess and they're like
• 51:32
  a hyper pop hard to define that anymore, but hyper pop duo and which
• 51:40
  sounds like very like not in our genre, but they are like their ADHD
• 51:45
  music like very purely like it's all left turns, it's all weird. It's
• 51:50
  also a lot of like they have lots of interesting guitar work. It's kind
• 51:53
  of underrated, like the guitar work that they haven't their music, but they
• 51:59
  sound like they were raised on like all the same music that I was,
• 52:02
  and that they just like put it into a blender and like they have like
• 52:07
  like they have stupid like scrillic style wobs in between like a chuggy breakdown thing
• 52:14
  that lasts like ten seconds, and then like they'll have glitchy screams and like
• 52:19
  auto tuned melodic parts. Like they're just like all over the place. But
• 52:22
  that album kind of changed like just how I thought about music in general.
• 52:25
  That totally Their Wikipedia says that they first met at a rodeo. Can't can't
• 52:31
  beat that. That sounds like a live that's your destined for stardom. If
• 52:36
  that's the first time you ever met somebody was a rodeo, that's so funny,
• 52:40
  you know, I used to I used to rodeo. Yeah what yeah?
• 52:46
  What were you one of those people that were like on a horse and
• 52:50
  you'd like or something. So in rodeo, there's like there's eight sports,
• 52:58
  right, There's like your bowl ride and your bronc rade calf rope, and
• 53:00
  team rope whatever, barl racing. That's so that's like the women's sport.
• 53:07
  Women are allowed to do any of the sports, but the one that they
• 53:09
  made for women, it was basically something so the ranchers wives like had something
• 53:15
  to compete in. But I think bill racing is like the most badass of
• 53:20
  all of them. It's pretty sick. I did it for about like fifteen
• 53:23
  years. And yeah, you're you're in You're in it, Maddie. You're
• 53:30
  like, you're fully like rody yo. Yeah I was. People don't believe
• 53:35
  it, but like I was really like involved in that. I kind of
• 53:38
  I kind of let music takeover. I was like, it truly is not
• 53:43
  your first rodeo, Like you've been to several thousand of them. I've been
• 53:45
  to a lot of them. Yes, I'm always always, always impressed.
• 53:52
  So rodeo is like really big rhyme from and I have Okay, I'm a
• 53:54
  teacher in my during the day. Yeah, and I have a lot of
• 54:00
  students that do barrel racing. And they've shown me some like their pictures,
• 54:04
  and I've I've like I've gone to see one of their shows or what that
• 54:07
  shows one of their perform that performance. This competitions before, yeah, like
• 54:10
  a race or competition or whatever. Yeah. And the horses are like basically
• 54:16
  parallel with the ground when they go around. It's insane. It's like it's
• 54:22
  like watching like like the motto uh what do they call it? The ones
• 54:30
  like on the like the people that are like it's like that kind of angle.
• 54:37
  It's insane. I feel so bad for the horses knees. Oh yeah,
• 54:43
  you they had all of the stuff that I did to take care of
• 54:47
  these damn horses, and I was I'm still in debt from taking care.
• 54:52
  Yeah. But I used to have a I used to have a horse chiropractor
• 54:57
  that I regularly went to like use a like road greater and just like go
• 55:02
  over their back, like how do you how do you crack a back?
• 55:07
  Courses back to this day. This is the horse chiropractor that I went to,
• 55:10
  the most insane person I've ever met in my life. And he was
• 55:15
  like he was like six foot six, like massive. He would basically like
• 55:20
  go down their backs, crack their backs. They have a long neck,
• 55:22
  so go like crack their neck. He was. He was a doomsday prepper.
• 55:28
  I'm only going to tell you the story because cars Metal Corbayan was he
• 55:32
  in and right. He was actually the one who made that video. Yes,
• 55:38
  that that exact same type of like just absolute psycho. No. This
• 55:43
  guy Carson. When I told Carson about this guy, he uh, we
• 55:49
  have a one of one of our shirts has a lyric from Violent Astrology that
• 55:52
  says, Barry, You're a R fifteen so the drones overhead don't find it.
• 55:58
  And this lyric was directed he inspired by this horse chiropractor that I used
• 56:02
  to go to. He used to and I would have to sit there holding
• 56:06
  the horse for him, right, and he'd be there for like two hours
• 56:08
  because he'd work on all the horses or whatever. So it's like it's like
• 56:12
  the weed man when you have to go and he's like measuring out your ship
• 56:14
  and you have to listen to his bullshit for like however long and you're like
• 56:17
  okay, awesome, like can you please finish up? It was like that,
• 56:22
  but he he would tell me about all the doomsday prepper shit he would
• 56:27
  do, including he would buy he didn't smoke cigarettes, but he would buy
• 56:30
  a couple cartons of cigarettes every week. He'd buy a handful of cases of
• 56:34
  bullets every week. And he would buy a couple of pounds of like ground
• 56:37
  coffee every week. And he would get a bunker and he would store all
• 56:42
  those things because he was convinced that that was going to be the currency when
• 56:45
  Obama crashed the economy, exact words he told me. And then he also
• 56:52
  he had a big property like out in the middle of nowhere, like North
• 56:54
  Georgia, and he said he installed metal fence posting, like wire metal fence
• 57:02
  posting around his property, and he used metal fence posts specifically because he was
• 57:09
  He would also stockpile like illegal guns, like unmarked and like unregistered guns,
• 57:15
  and he would take PVC pipe and like hollow it out. He would like
• 57:22
  take apart his guns. He would store it in the PVC pipe and bury
• 57:27
  it next to these metal fence posts in the ground because he was convinced Obama
• 57:31
  was sending metal detecting drones through the sky to detect who had guns on their
• 57:37
  property, so that way, when those laws would finally get past, he
• 57:40
  would have his guns taken away him. And I stounded a lot, Alike,
• 57:45
  I'm not gonna lie. Look, Len just heard about his hero right
• 57:57
  now, Okay. I was also mind you, I was like sixteen seventeen,
• 58:02
  and I'm like, I don't know shit about the world, but I
• 58:05
  don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I was like and just like
• 58:13
  every single time I saw it, he just had some crackpot ship to say
• 58:17
  like that, I love this all right? So we got yes, I
• 58:25
  think is there one more? Two more? I think I have one one
• 58:29
  more, one more I'm trying to think of. Oh, okay, okay,
• 58:32
  I'm just gonna say Dan's A three by the Tony Danza Tap Dance Extracganza.
• 58:37
  You know that record. I will never be able to play guitar like
• 58:43
  that. Probably every guitar player has to have that on their list. In
• 58:46
  my opinion, If if you're in like any sort of band that's somewhat chaotic,
• 58:52
  you mean you have to Yeah, that record's like amazing. It's just
• 58:57
  so much fun and it's so crazy and just like the song Yippie Kaya motherfucker.
• 59:02
  The first time I heard that, I was like, like what,
• 59:06
  like what the fuck? Like? I also don't give that much of us
• 59:08
  talk about technical guitar playing like that much like the I like our genre because
• 59:15
  I like the chaotic parts of it, Like I like kind of like the
• 59:19
  out of nowhere nonsense parts and like that kind of accidentally falls into technical realms.
• 59:25
  But like, I don't know, depending on there's a couple of like
• 59:30
  technical bands I like, but it's not like really and truly like what I
• 59:34
  care about music four, But that band and that record, like it just
• 59:40
  it does so many cool things. I think about it all the time.
• 59:44
  I just like Also Josh Travis the Guitars for like the second half of their
• 59:50
  career, he like rocks with us. He'll like tweet us out sometimes or
• 59:53
  like, yeah, he was like the coolest dude, was he the one
• 1:00:00
  in your opinion that like made eight string plus guitars like cool as shit in
• 1:00:07
  the scene. Truthfully, he's a guitarist that I'm like, you can do
• 1:00:10
  anything. Yeah, anytime I see someone with more than six strings thought,
• 1:00:15
  I'm like, that better be worth it. You better be doing something fucking
• 1:00:19
  cool, because half the time I'm like, you could have just you don't
• 1:00:23
  need it. You could have just been in a lower tuning because I know
• 1:00:27
  you're just doing that to drop that down to like a or whatever. Like
• 1:00:31
  a guy wears like a Michael Jordan jersey at a pickup game. It's like,
• 1:00:36
  if you're gonna wear a Michael Jordan jersey at a pickup game, you
• 1:00:38
  better be good. Yeah, that's so try hard showing up in a Michael
• 1:00:45
  Jordan jersey. Maddie, have you ever seen the video of Tony the actual
• 1:00:49
  Tony Danza? What listening to the Tony Tap Tap Dance Extravaganza for the first
• 1:00:55
  time, Yes, because he used to have like a little daytime talk show.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, and he's like hilarious, yes, and everybody's everybody's like so
• 1:01:05
  upset, like because it's fucked up music. It's like I think he's he
• 1:01:10
  makes like a joke at the end where he's like I'll be humming that all
• 1:01:14
  day. Yeah, that's awesome. It's all right. Well, there is
• 1:01:22
  the top five most influential albums of you Maddie, that is Yeah, that's
• 1:01:27
  a pretty impressive list and you hear it, I think in the cow Stowboys
• 1:01:30
  and it just totally makes sense with you all. Yeah, I think most
• 1:01:34
  of my bandmates would share some of those, maybe not as their top five,
• 1:01:37
  but definitely. I didn't think anything that was like hated by anybody else
• 1:01:42
  in the vand I don't think either. But yeah, those are those are
• 1:01:45
  the top five. I dig it, love it, sweet Maddie. What
• 1:01:49
  would you like to plug? Oh? Us the cow Stowboys. We're gonna
• 1:01:55
  be on tour. We're gonna be on tour from October and an event member
• 1:02:00
  with protests, The Hero and Moontooth. Down's gonna be a full us.
• 1:02:06
  It's gonna be our first time in Canada. If you're a Canadian and you're
• 1:02:08
  listening to this, please go to those because it's our first time there.
• 1:02:14
  What else, We're doing another European tour in January and February with Tests or
• 1:02:19
  Act, which is really cool and on Process. That's the other bands that's
• 1:02:22
  supporting. You're gonna hear stuff that we'll need to be plugged pretty soon once
• 1:02:27
  we get home from Europe. We have some plans and announcements like I hate
• 1:02:31
  to I hate to big things coming everybody, But I actually didn't check with
• 1:02:40
  my band if there are things I'm like allowed to talk about or not before
• 1:02:45
  I hopped on here. But but yeah, that so we can expect some
• 1:02:52
  big things coming from the Calistole Boys in the future, including including a third
• 1:02:58
  pressing right what you say? Yes, yeah, we finally decided on variance
• 1:03:04
  for that, so that is currently in the works. Uh what else?
• 1:03:10
  Yeah, anything else you'd like? The plug? We're gonna be in an
• 1:03:14
  episode of Ghost Adventures here soon. I love Ghost Adventures so much. Yeah.
• 1:03:20
  Yeah, is like, is it a song that you've already made?
• 1:03:22
  Are you making a song for them? Or are you are just not something?
• 1:03:27
  Are you like you're just like you going to be in an episode?
• 1:03:30
  Your commune house is going to be in it. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:03:32
  We're there's actually a couple of ghosts in here. So yeah, do you
• 1:03:37
  think they have a name or have you named them? Dan always oh what
• 1:03:42
  does he call it? He got there's like he always claims there's a shadow
• 1:03:45
  man outside of my room and he just does that to fuck with me.
• 1:03:50
  But but have you seen the shadow man? I don't. I don't know.
• 1:03:54
  I have a pet snake that's right outside my room and I always ask
• 1:03:59
  her if she seen him, but I don't think she has. She doesn't
• 1:04:02
  talk back. She's real quiet. But yeah, there's uh, well,
• 1:04:06
  we'll be hunting. We'll be hunting the shadow man that Dan thinks exists that
• 1:04:11
  I'm skeptical of. But interesting. So you've you've never had like any like
• 1:04:15
  inkling or feeling that there's a shadow man. No, And I want to
• 1:04:18
  see a ghost so damn bad, but I think I want it too hard
• 1:04:21
  so they won't ye like a cat. Do you know how that works with
• 1:04:26
  the cats? Cats don't see ghosts. Cats, if you love them,
• 1:04:30
  they don't want anything to do with you, But if you don't like them,
• 1:04:33
  they want all your attention. That's like psychological psychologically, that's how cats
• 1:04:39
  work. So I think that's how ghosts work too. That's why I've never
• 1:04:42
  liked cats, because yeah, we have we have a cat that it's Dan's
• 1:04:46
  cat, but he's my mortal enemy that lives with us. And yeah,
• 1:04:50
  it's that's why I hate him, because I'm like, I want to love
• 1:04:54
  you and to hold you. I want to cuddle you. And he just
• 1:04:56
  like like, I don't want to have them in manipulate somebody for their love.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah. Well, also, I'm like, you live in my house
• 1:05:03
  for free, you get fed, you get this huge, big house all
• 1:05:06
  to yourself. The least you can do is let me hold you like a
• 1:05:10
  little baby. Yeah right, or horse gypractors Yeah exactly. I've never I
• 1:05:15
  was never able to hold a horse. I love that. Well. I'm
• 1:05:24
  a big fan of ghosts, and I'm a big fan of the Cowstow Boys,
• 1:05:27
  and I'm also a big fan of furnace Fest. So like, if
• 1:05:30
  we can bring all three of those things together, which furnace Fest, uh,
• 1:05:32
  the slast furnaces are supposedly very very haunted, so hopefully we can get
• 1:05:36
  those yea, So hopefully we can get all three of those. Maybe we
• 1:05:40
  can see like a ghost why you guys are playing at furnace Fest. That
• 1:05:44
  y but we'll have them on well, they'll do a feature want to see
• 1:05:49
  you one? I want to hear one, I want to hear I'm the
• 1:05:53
  little readers like like like a plea for perjeans ghosts. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:57
  there we go. Well, Maddie, thank you so much for chatting a
• 1:06:02
  little bit more about the history of the cow stop Boys, what you're excited
• 1:06:05
  for about Furnace Fast, and then all the new stuff that we can potentially
• 1:06:10
  see or hear about in the future. We're really really excited, So thank
• 1:06:13
  you so much for chatting a little bit more about it again. Cow stop
• 1:06:16
  Boys one of our favorite newer bands, and we're just so so so excited
• 1:06:20
  for all the things that are happening for you all in the future. Big
• 1:06:24
  time, and tell Dan to piss off because he left us. I think
• 1:06:28
  he just tricked me. I think he didn't want to do it. I
• 1:06:30
  think that's the case. Yeah, I think he just did it. I
• 1:06:31
  think, well, hopefully hopefully you can go back and say, actually,
• 1:06:34
  this was like a pretty fun time. Hopefully I don't know. Maybe I
• 1:06:36
  don't want to put words in your mouth, but hopefully it was fun enough
• 1:06:40
  for you to like, Dan, you really should have been there. Yeah,
• 1:06:43
  No, this was fun, this is this is great. No,
• 1:06:45
  because I was like, yeah, I'll do it, but I don't want
• 1:06:47
  to do it by myself. And I think this is probably played all along.
• 1:06:51
  I think it was just lured me in here, that fucked off,
• 1:06:55
  or you got in a car wreck and in which case I'm gonna have to
• 1:06:58
  call him and figure that out. But check as well. Colin can play
• 1:07:01
  guitar, So can you that? Yeah? Nice? Oh, it's job.