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The Next Round: Did Michigan Get Bailed Out? LSU Buries Clemson & Dabo’s Future in Doubt | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: NFL starts on Wednesday. This is the way I'm doing
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Speaker 2: the NFL schedule since we're doing more NFL talk here
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Speaker 2: on Sporting State. So I'm ready to go with NFL talk.
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Speaker 2: But we started with college football this week. So we
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Speaker 2: got a lot of college football reaction. We'll get to
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Speaker 2: the NFL as we move later in this show, but
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Speaker 2: really into Tuesday and the start of the season on Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: But craziness this weekend. Welcome into the next round presented
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Speaker 2: Let's do this. I've got one thing off the top here,
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Speaker 2: but then I want to do, I'll say a game
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Speaker 2: and then we'll react to that game. And then you
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Speaker 2: say a game, we'll react and we'll just go around
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Speaker 2: the table because it's so hard on this because we
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Speaker 2: all want to talk about every game all at once.
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Speaker 2: So that's where we're going to do it. But first,
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Speaker 4: I hated it in college. We used to run the
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: One dollar at a time, right? Now, my seven-teamer did
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Speaker 2: not hit. Dang you, Charlotte. Charlotte lost at home.
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Speaker 4: And triple overtime.
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Speaker 1: Triple overtime.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's what gets you. If you win six of the seven,
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Speaker 2: it is Charlotte. Why did I even put that one
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Speaker 2: in there?
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Speaker 1: It was the FCS team that beat them. I forgot.
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Speaker 1: How do you even have that on your radar? Charlotte
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Speaker 1: was playing some nobody. You know me. I do such
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Speaker 1: great research. I'm going down. I'm going down. Oh, that's seven. Okay.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into some of the games. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: start with LSU Clemson. This will be my first pick.
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Speaker 2: We started Monday Morning Live. It's on our platform if
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Speaker 2: you want to go watch it with Lugan Bill. I
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Speaker 2: want to start with the other side of the coin
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Speaker 2: before we talk about LSU. Is Clemson that bad?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think they are.
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Speaker 2: I mean, is it that bad to where as the
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Speaker 2: year goes on, it's going to be a lot more
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Speaker 2: losses and they're going to be lucky to go to
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Speaker 2: a bowl game? Because it looked like we were watching
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Speaker 2: the LSU spring game and it was the ones against
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Speaker 2: the not ones.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Lane Kiffin and his staff wanted to
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Speaker 4: punish whatever bad behavior was on the threes and fours
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Speaker 4: and threw them all over there and said, hey, look,
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Speaker 4: you guys go out there, completely embarrass them and run
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Speaker 4: it up. Dabo, look, and I said this before the game,
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Speaker 4: I thought LSU would pull away. I didn't think that
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Speaker 4: they would completely dominate for 60 minutes. I mean, that
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Speaker 4: was domination. That looked like one of the old school
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Speaker 4: Georgia or Alabama teams out there But I don't know,
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Speaker 4: has Dabo gotten lazy? I mean, it was a lazy
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Speaker 4: hire with Chad Morris. Chad Morris is one of the
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Speaker 4: most overrated offensive coordinators in history.
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Speaker 1: Hadn't called play since COVID, I think it was. He's
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Speaker 1: catching a lot of heat. I would imagine. They were
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Speaker 1: pretty bad. I mean, what did they have, five first downs?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was terrible. Line couldn't block. Listen, this
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Speaker 1: is not.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen that one video where the guard stands
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Speaker 2: up and he's like, He didn't even know what play
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Speaker 2: we were running.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the defender could not believe, I'm just getting
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Speaker 1: a free lane to the quarterback here. It's like the
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Speaker 1: defender almost stops and taps him on the shoulder and says,
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Speaker 1: are you supposed to be blocking me? At least rub me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: at least rub me.
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Speaker 2: They won't score me a point if I go untouched.
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Speaker 1: And listen, this is not knee-jerk. You guys, we've got
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Speaker 1: some new people on our platform here from Sporting State.
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Speaker 1: We welcome it. You guys, I think, will back me
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Speaker 1: up that this is not knee-jerk Ryan. I have said
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Speaker 1: this for two or three years now. Dabo had to
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Speaker 1: be dragged kicking and screaming into this era of college football.
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Speaker 1: I've got some numbers here. And I'm fine that Dabo
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Speaker 1: doesn't like NIL. He's got every right not to. I'm
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Speaker 1: fine Dabo does not like the transfer portal. He's got
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Speaker 1: every right to. But if you're going to say things
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Speaker 1: like the day players get paid will be the day
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Speaker 1: I retire.
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Speaker 4: It's time to retire.
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Speaker 1: Well, but I'm just saying, if you're going to say
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Speaker 1: that and you're going to take that stance, and I
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Speaker 1: said it three years ago, Dabo's going to take a
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Speaker 1: stance that is contrary to every other college football coach
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Speaker 1: in America. This will be a great test to see
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Speaker 1: if you can win with that stance. And he has
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Speaker 1: not won with that stance.
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Speaker 2: I got some numbers after we hear Dabo. Now, you're
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Speaker 2: going to think Dabo's a giant and he's in a
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Speaker 2: very teeny tiny house.
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Speaker 1: But this is the way it's been.
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Speaker 2: This is how they shot Elf with Will Ferrell, by
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Speaker 2: the way. This is the way it's been in Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 2: Forrester can attest to this. The locker room is small.
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Speaker 2: The post-game interview room is so small. Our studio would
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Speaker 2: not fit into the post-game interview room. Our studio, it's
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Speaker 2: half the size of this room, of our studio. that
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Speaker 2: they do the post-game media in.
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Speaker 7: I mean, this looks like that one room in the
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Speaker 7: McWayne Center.
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Speaker 4: Where you walk up.
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Speaker 1: And it just gets more narrow.
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Speaker 2: So Dabo is not 6'11 here. This is normal-sized Dabo,
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Speaker 2: but with a beat-down heart after what he saw his
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Speaker 2: team put on tape down in Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty self-explanatory. Best thing about that one is it's open.
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Speaker 5: It's really....
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Speaker 3: Just poor performance, not what we worked for, expected. You know,
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Speaker 3: credit to LSU. Congratulations to them. They did a hell
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Speaker 3: of a job of executing their plan.
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Speaker 5: And, you know, we just never really gave ourselves a
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Speaker 5: chance to settle in.
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Speaker 3: You know, the pick six was really big as far
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Speaker 3: as a momentum standpoint. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: you're not going to win if you can't stop and
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Speaker 3: run it. I know everybody's focus will be on the
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Speaker 3: score and all that stuff, but we've got to put
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Speaker 3: our focus on what we can control.
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Speaker 5: This one's early in the season.
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Speaker 3: Again, it's a tough opener, and it's got a worst-case
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Speaker 3: scenario for us.
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Speaker 5: So I've got to go to work next week and
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Speaker 5: see if we can find a way to win this one.
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Speaker 2: They're going to focus on the score. It was 51-10
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Speaker 2: in prime time. I don't know how many 51-10 games
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Speaker 2: Fowler and Herbstreet have ever had to call.
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Speaker 6: I mean, that.
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Speaker 4: Was their worst loss in 20, no, 40 years. 40 years,
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Speaker 4: worst loss. I'll go on and say it. This is
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Speaker 4: Jimbo Fisher North. I mean, if you go back and
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Speaker 4: you look at the coordinators, and we talked about this,
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Speaker 4: Tony Elliott, Brent Venables, when he won his championships, he
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Speaker 4: had two elite quarterbacks, Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence. I mean,
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Speaker 4: give him credit because he did it, but it's done.
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Speaker 1: It's done.
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Speaker 4: And I thought that they would win nine or ten
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Speaker 4: games based on schedule.
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Speaker 1: I did, too.
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Speaker 4: But when I look at the schedule now, Georgia Southern's
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Speaker 4: a win next week. Charleston Southern's going to be a win.
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Speaker 4: But every game, including at Syracuse, is a losable game.
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Speaker 2: Brown, to your point, what you were talking about with
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Speaker 2: Dabo reluctant to come into this era, they lost nine
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Speaker 2: players to the NFL draft last year. They brought, you know,
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Speaker 2: and there are some that just graduate. They don't go
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Speaker 2: to the NFL. They lost nine to the NFL draft.
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Speaker 2: They brought 11 players in on the portal. And they
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Speaker 2: were 7-6 last year, so they did not do a
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Speaker 2: massive overhaul. You lose nine to the draft. Who knows
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Speaker 2: how many other players you just lost to graduation out
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Speaker 2: of eligibility. And you bring 11 in on the portal.
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Speaker 2: And basically you were a 7-6 team, and you decided, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're going to roll with basically that roster today. And
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Speaker 2: we're going to roll with our quarterback. Now, he's a
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Speaker 2: local guy with us here, Christopher Vazina. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that's a fair look at what he can do
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Speaker 2: because of the way the offensive line played.
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Speaker 1: You better hope it's not because he was atrocious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it looked like they moved very quickly to
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Speaker 2: the freshman, and you just wonder who will play against
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Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and how they'll handle that moving forward. I
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Speaker 2: was stunned at how it looked like it was– one
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Speaker 2: team's varsity against the junior varsity.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're a Clemson fan, though, you've seen this before.
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Speaker 4: You know, DJ plays bad. You bring in Cade Klubnick.
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Speaker 4: He's the future. Tate Reynolds is the future. When you
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Speaker 4: brought him in, he didn't look good. It didn't really
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Speaker 4: matter who was in there. I don't think you got
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Speaker 4: enough pieces around this. And I don't know where Clemson
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Speaker 4: goes from this.
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Speaker 1: I really don't. I was shocked.
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Speaker 4: The game couldn't have started any better. You had the
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Speaker 4: crowd going absolutely nuts after that long weather delay, which
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Speaker 4: I love to get pushed back to 9 plus.
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Speaker 6: O'clock or whatever.
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Speaker 1: I know. It was a good late game.
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Speaker 4: And you get a pick on the second play of
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Speaker 4: the game from Leavitt, and you're in plus territory in
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Speaker 4: every opportunity, and you still get points. You go up 3-0,
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Speaker 4: but it kind of calms the crowd. You couldn't get
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Speaker 4: a first down, but you got points. You calm the
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Speaker 4: crowd down a little bit. It couldn't have gone better,
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Speaker 4: and then it just explodes. I mean, they won. The
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Speaker 4: only bright spot all night was second play of the game.
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Speaker 1: That was it. That was it. Yeah, it was all
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Speaker 1: downhill from there.
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Speaker 2: So that begs this question, though. Could LSU be that good?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean... You hated the way I voted when
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Speaker 1: I was an AP voter. I would have LSU my
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Speaker 1: number one team in the country today.
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Speaker 6: I got it right here.
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Speaker 2: How high does LSU go in the AP poll?
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Speaker 1: What were they, 11? Is that where they were?
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think it was 11. Where were they last week?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was 11.
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Speaker 1: Of course you're ready to go with that. Look at that.
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Speaker 1: Queued up, ready to go.
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Speaker 6: They were 11.
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Speaker 2: How high do you put them? I'd have them number one.
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Speaker 1: And look. Wait, wait, wait. Put it back. Tight shot, Brown.
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Speaker 1: Say that again. If I were an Associated Press voter
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Speaker 1: and the way I voted was to react to what
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Speaker 1: I see on the field. We do all these preseason
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Speaker 1: votes based on what we think is going to happen.
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Speaker 1: When we finally see it happen, why would I not
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Speaker 1: react to what I saw on the field? LSU would
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Speaker 1: be my number one team in the country today.
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Speaker 4: Okay, well, depending on where you had teams like Ohio
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Speaker 4: State and Georgia, what did they do to go backwards?
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Speaker 1: They played crappy teams.
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Speaker 4: Well, so did LSU.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they did. They played a crappy team.
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Speaker 2: If you did blind box scores, I mean, just looking
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Speaker 2: at LSU, 38-8 first downs, 1 of 13 on third downs.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this looks like... Tennessee State, Georgia.
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Speaker 1: It really does. It does.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the final score blended in nicely. 51-10 LSU
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Speaker 2: over Clemson. 51-0 Oklahoma over Utah. 48-10 Alabama over East Carolina.
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Speaker 2: If it wasn't Clemson, if that was the Citadel, I
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Speaker 2: can't say the Citadel, they won.
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Speaker 1: They won. They're the team that beat Charlotte.
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Speaker 4: No, but I've got the defending champion, Indiana Hoosiers, minus 40.5,
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Speaker 4: and they can't get home against North Texas completely replenishing
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Speaker 4: their their entire roster, but LSU can cover the 40
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Speaker 4: and a half at home against Clemson.
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Speaker 1: In the first half, basically. I mean, it was, it
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Speaker 1: was an embarrassing beat down. Like there were so many
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Speaker 1: times in this state where Alabama fans had to live
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Speaker 1: through members of the national media, declaring the Saban dynasty over.
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Speaker 1: Is this the funeral of the Saban dynasty? By the way,
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Speaker 1: there was never a funeral. It's final game was in
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Speaker 1: the Rose bowl and a semifinal game. There was never
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Speaker 1: a funeral of the Saban dynasty. So when I say
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Speaker 1: things like I'm about to say, Alabama fans are like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've heard it. It never looked like this. That was
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Speaker 1: the funeral for Clemson football.
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Speaker 2: It looked like that only one game, and it was Clemson, ironically,
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Speaker 2: beating Alabama in that national championship.
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Speaker 1: In the national championship.
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Speaker 6: Game, not a season.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 4: If South Carolina was relevant, I think their fans could
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Speaker 4: actually throw a funeral.
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Speaker 1: That's right. This is a funeral for Clemson football.
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Speaker 2: Give me the AP poll again. Let's ask Lance the question.
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Speaker 2: Brown would have LSU number one. Where would you put?
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Speaker 2: I mean, they would definitely jump. They would be top five.
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Speaker 4: Again, I think they've got a test coming up in
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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks. There's probably people that disagree when
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Speaker 4: they watch Pete Golding's defense, and I was going to
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Speaker 4: shift to that game next. But I would have them
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Speaker 4: in the top five. I'd put them five, I think.
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Speaker 4: You'd drop Oregon, though, right? Yeah, I would drop Oregon.
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Speaker 4: I'd probably drop Notre Dame a little bit. I mean,
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Speaker 4: the second half looked great.
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Speaker 2: I would probably go Ohio State, Georgia, Notre Dame, and
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Speaker 2: that's where I'd consider LSU. But Miami probably would be
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Speaker 2: four for me.
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Speaker 1: LSU five.
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Speaker 4: I would probably put Notre Dame. I'd keep Notre Dame
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Speaker 4: where they are. I would go Ohio State, Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Miami looked good. Yeah, they did. They dominated Stanford.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm going to put my– I mean, Oklahoma's
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Speaker 4: defense is crazy, crazy good. Now– This is a weird
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Speaker 4: dynamic setting because you guys don't want my contrarian and
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Speaker 4: the world. Brown takes me to the world. It's going
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Speaker 4: to be on Oklahoma.
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Speaker 1: Because I want to go to your game there.
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Speaker 4: I just don't know how Michigan is going to move
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Speaker 4: the football. But anyway, I would have Miami close to
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Speaker 4: top five, and I probably would have LSU number five.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would too. But not number one, Brown.
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Speaker 4: So are we going to shift to that game?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to have number five.
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Speaker 2: LT selects our second game to discuss.
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Speaker 4: Boy, you're talking about a tale of two halves. It
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Speaker 4: looked like the defenses, like Keen Holtz was not going
14:24
Speaker 4: to be maybe the worst quarterback in the Brum four-year
14:28
Speaker 4: era at Louisville. His fourth starting quarterback in four years.
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Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything going offensively. Trinidad made multiple bad decisions,
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Speaker 4: a fumble, terrible interception. And then in the second.
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Speaker 1: Half, it was.
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Speaker 4: the most entertaining 30 minutes we've seen early on in
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Speaker 4: college football.
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Speaker 1: No, it was the best 30 minutes of the season
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Speaker 1: so far.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Trinidad was fabulous. I thought Ole Miss'
14:50
Speaker 4: defense looked fast. The secondary just– I don't know what
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Speaker 4: they were doing. They couldn't tackle. The coverage was bad.
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Speaker 4: But my biggest takeaway, Keen Holtz is the best quarterback
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Speaker 4: I was playing futures, I might put him in front
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Speaker 4: of Chambliss. I think he can be that good.
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Speaker 2: His touch on some of those passes was really, really good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Lugenbill, what he said to you about
15:13
Speaker 1: him was interesting, that Braum always likes these older guys,
15:16
Speaker 1: but he finally found a mobile older guy, right? That's
15:19
Speaker 1: kind of.
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Speaker 2: Well, you listen to the story, and I think McDonough
15:21
Speaker 2: and McElroy did a great job. McElroy on his game,
15:24
Speaker 2: calling a couple of plays before they happened. But McDonough said,
15:29
Speaker 2: and McElroy, they both told the story at different times,
15:31
Speaker 2: that when they were when keen holes was in the
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15:41
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15:43
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15:46
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15:52
Speaker 2: he's playing with all these athletes and there's no way
15:54
Speaker 2: but My gosh, I'm trying to even do a comp
15:57
Speaker 2: for the guy.
15:57
Speaker 1: I mean, he had to shake the rust off. He
15:59
Speaker 1: hadn't started since high school. No, it is crazy.
16:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, Collin Klein at his height at Kansas State.
16:04
Speaker 1: I mean, he– Brom can just coach quarterbacks. I mean,
16:06
Speaker 1: pure and simple, Brom can coach quarterbacks. But if you've
16:09
Speaker 1: got a bad quarterback, you look.
16:10
Speaker 4: At that, you're like– and I bet Ohio State fans
16:12
Speaker 4: are probably like, ah, we like saying a lot, but man.
16:15
Speaker 1: Here's what's weird about that game. Like, I had said
16:17
Speaker 1: my concern for Ole Miss is the offense is going
16:20
Speaker 1: to fall off after Kiffin and Weiss, and boy, in
16:22
Speaker 1: the first half, I'm like, Well, I got that right.
16:24
Speaker 1: I didn't get much right in the preseason, but I
16:25
Speaker 1: got that right. That offense has fallen off. You got
16:27
Speaker 1: new play callers and everything. And it just didn't seem
16:29
Speaker 1: to jive. There was no... You're right. Chambliss did not
16:32
Speaker 1: look like himself. Now, Keewan Lacey got hurt. So that,
16:35
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they can't help that.
16:37
Speaker 2: Bruised knee shouldn't be long term.
16:38
Speaker 1: But he was out of the rest of the game.
16:41
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, I... I was right about that,
16:43
Speaker 1: that offense. And then you go to the second half,
16:44
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute, their offense is fine.
16:47
Speaker 1: What is wrong with Ole Miss' defense? Like, the defense
16:50
Speaker 1: is the issue for Ole Miss.
16:51
Speaker 4: The explosive plays they gave up. You just didn't see
16:54
Speaker 4: that with the Ole Miss defense last year. And I'll
16:56
Speaker 4: tell you, for Vane Kiffin, the only thing that went
16:58
Speaker 4: wrong this weekend– the only.
17:00
Speaker 2: Thing you intentionally went vain the.
17:04
Speaker 4: Only thing that went wrong was Ole Miss winning this
17:06
Speaker 4: game because you know that dickhead was pulling against him oh.
17:09
Speaker 1: You know he was sure he was dialed right in.
17:12
Speaker 2: Would not have surprised me if he sent some some
17:14
Speaker 2: cliff notes to uh Braum in the office.
17:17
Speaker 4: Yeah and the good news for I think Louisville's gonna
17:19
Speaker 4: be really good like people are already anointing hey Miami's
17:21
Speaker 4: got this especially with how Bad Clemson look. I think
17:25
Speaker 4: Virginia and Louisville are going to be right there with Miami.
17:27
Speaker 1: Having watched as much ACC as I've watched, whatever that is,
17:31
Speaker 1: right now, if you're going to head, I'd say Miami
17:33
Speaker 1: and Louisville play for the conference championship.
17:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go Miami, Virginia, but it's not going
17:37
Speaker 4: to surprise me. Louisville is right there. Because Louisville's got
17:41
Speaker 4: the better quarterback.
17:42
Speaker 2: Back to week zero, NC State. got embarrassed by Virginia,
17:46
Speaker 2: but NC State was supposed to be good. So just
17:48
Speaker 2: like we asked about LSU, the question could be, is
17:51
Speaker 2: Virginia really that good?
17:53
Speaker 1: I don't know.
17:53
Speaker 4: Louisville and Virginia don't play each other. So this is
17:56
Speaker 4: going to be interesting. I mean, we've seen weird tiebreakers
17:59
Speaker 4: before in the ACC. So right now I would say
18:02
Speaker 4: those are the two best. Now, we'll get a look
18:04
Speaker 4: at SMU and Florida State tonight. We'll see how that
18:06
Speaker 4: game plays out.
18:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, point spread on that one's a little fishy.
18:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gone up to three. It's ticked up a
18:11
Speaker 4: little bit. This was a very, very public weekend, though.
18:14
Speaker 4: I got my dick handed to me on Saturday. Bad
18:19
Speaker 4: three and five.
18:19
Speaker 1: Is that what's playing on the ground here?
18:21
Speaker 4: No, I can't find it. Some bitch is out there somewhere.
18:26
Speaker 4: With all that said, big play coming up tonight. Things
18:29
Speaker 4: I wish I'd never heard before. This ACC is going
18:35
Speaker 4: to be– It's going to be wild. I was going
18:37
Speaker 4: to say fun, but wild is probably better.
18:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not my game. My game, we're going
18:41
Speaker 1: to have to take a break before we get to
18:43
Speaker 1: my game. But Miami was just dominant over Stanford. I mean,
18:46
Speaker 1: everything you thought– Is that yours?
18:47
Speaker 6: No.
18:48
Speaker 1: I said we're going to have to get my game
18:49
Speaker 1: after the break.
18:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's how bad Stanford is.
18:50
Speaker 1: Stanford's awful, but– You let me worry about the breaks.
18:53
Speaker 1: Give me your game when you get to it. I mean,
18:54
Speaker 1: my game's Michigan-Western Michigan. We can't do that in this time. Yes,
18:57
Speaker 1: we can. It'll take a second.
18:59
Speaker 4: Well, let me go back to– Ah! She knows real quick.
19:02
Speaker 4: Jack Plummer, no. Miller Moss, no. Tyler Shuck, no. I mean,
19:07
Speaker 4: he's got him a quarterback now. Now, whether or not
19:09
Speaker 4: they can figure out the defense, I think more of
19:11
Speaker 4: that was Trinidad and how good Trinidad is. As bad
19:14
Speaker 4: as he was in the first half, he was that
19:16
Speaker 4: good in the second half. Louisville's going to be a
19:18
Speaker 4: fun watch. And back to your top 25 voting, there's
19:21
Speaker 4: no way Louisville falls out of the top 25 for me.
19:25
Speaker 1: I might bump them up.
19:26
Speaker 2: I would actually move them up. Nine runs by Trinidad.
19:29
Speaker 2: 14 by Lincoln Keenholz. Levitt ran 12 times, though. Any
19:35
Speaker 2: concern about Levitt's health all season long for LSU?
19:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big guy. But, I mean, you talk
19:41
Speaker 4: about running with just wild abandonment. Like, the guy, he's
19:45
Speaker 4: not afraid. I mean, you saw him down by the
19:47
Speaker 4: goal line just doing tumbles and flipping into the end zone. Like,
19:50
Speaker 4: he's reckless.
19:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, coming off an injury, by the way.
19:53
Speaker 1: That's what worries you.
19:54
Speaker 2: And we'll talk Keelan Russell later on, Alabama's debut. But
19:57
Speaker 2: he wasn't a slider either. He was a run into
20:01
Speaker 2: the tackle, into the forest. And some of these guys,
20:04
Speaker 2: you need to learn to slide. It's a long, long season.
20:07
Speaker 2: Brown wants to take a break before we talk about
20:09
Speaker 2: the craziness in Ann Arbor. So that'll be next up
20:13
Speaker 2: and we'll get to Bama and Auburn and got a
20:17
Speaker 2: fun UCLA Cal game. Oregon got scared.
20:21
Speaker 1: We're going to go through it all with you today.
20:23
Speaker 2: This is the next round presented by Hard Rock Bets
20:26
Speaker 2: right here on Sport and State. If you're new to
20:30
Speaker 2: the show, my wife is not a sports fan. So
20:34
Speaker 2: when she hears me say man, Lance Taylor got robbed.
20:38
Speaker 2: And she says, was it a break-in? Or was he
20:42
Speaker 2: out on town?
20:43
Speaker 1: I was like, no.
20:44
Speaker 5: No, no.
20:44
Speaker 2: He coaches Western Michigan. Not the Lance I work with.
20:48
Speaker 2: But Lance Taylor, Western Michigan. I mean, America cheers for
20:54
Speaker 2: little old Western Michigan. Those type teams to beat the
20:57
Speaker 2: big boys all the time. And here you have Western
20:58
Speaker 2: Michigan and Michigan playing at the big house.
21:01
Speaker 6: And for.
21:02
Speaker 2: 59 minutes and 59 seconds, or as a lot of
21:06
Speaker 2: people say, for 60 minutes.
21:08
Speaker 1: 64.
21:08
Speaker 2: Western Michigan outplayed Michigan, and they get bailed out with
21:11
Speaker 2: a second shot at the Hail Mary. I want your reaction,
21:14
Speaker 2: but let's listen to the sound bite first. This is
21:17
Speaker 2: what the Big Ten sent out. I will tell you,
21:20
Speaker 2: I don't know where we are in the moon landing,
21:23
Speaker 2: but for those people that don't believe we landed on
21:26
Speaker 2: the moon in 1969, faking a clock and a video.
21:32
Speaker 2: Is not out of the ramble possibility. But the Big
21:35
Speaker 2: Ten sent this out, and listen to the discussion here.
21:38
Speaker 2: Cut 16, Tyler, hit it.
21:40
Speaker 6: Where's his left foot there? So let's see here. We're
21:44
Speaker 6: taking a look here.
21:44
Speaker 8: Okay, he's jumping from out of bounds. So when 18
21:48
Speaker 8: is touching the football, Jim, do.
21:50
Speaker 6: You see that?
21:50
Speaker 1: It's dead when he touches the ball.
21:52
Speaker 6: When 18's touching the football, we've got one second.
21:55
Speaker 1: On the clock.
21:55
Speaker 6: Do you see that? I do. And we've got him Houston,
22:04
Speaker 6: we have a program for you.
22:05
Speaker 1: Are you with me?
22:05
Speaker 6: Yes. Can you hear me, guys?
22:07
Speaker 8: We are going to put one second on the game clock,
22:10
Speaker 8: and we're going to have another play from the previous spot, okay?
22:14
Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you think? I think it's AI.
22:16
Speaker 1: It's a joke.
22:17
Speaker 4: I don't even believe it. I mean, look, I'll let
22:20
Speaker 4: you go, Brown, because this is your game, and then
22:22
Speaker 4: I will circle back around because I do have opinions
22:24
Speaker 4: on this.
22:25
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just do a couple quick questions
22:28
Speaker 1: for you two. At what time was that video released? Yesterday?
22:33
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they had a statement pretty quick.
22:36
Speaker 1: They said they were going to have a statement quick.
22:40
Speaker 1: And then the statement and the video didn't come out
22:43
Speaker 1: until at least 90 minutes to two hours after the game.
22:45
Speaker 1: That's right.
22:45
Speaker 2: Enough time to edit it and recreate it. Hey, that email,
22:50
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, was sent at 11.48 p.m.
22:54
Speaker 1: 11.48 p.m. That game ended before 10. Yeah, before 10.
22:58
Speaker 1: So we're close to two hours. Follow my analogy here.
23:05
Speaker 1: When you have an officer involved shooting. Now listen to me.
23:10
Speaker 1: When you have an officer involved shooting. It's comparable, right?
23:13
Speaker 1: Hang on. I'm not making a comparison. I said an analogy.
23:16
Speaker 1: When you have an officer involved shooting. If the body
23:19
Speaker 1: cam footage isn't out by the time the smoke dies,
23:21
Speaker 1: you know you've got problems with the body cam footage.
23:24
Speaker 1: If it's all clear, they're like, here's the body cam footage.
23:26
Speaker 2: Everybody watch. Here's what happened. They definitely want to look
23:29
Speaker 2: at it first.
23:29
Speaker 1: If the body cam footage ain't out in 30 seconds,
23:32
Speaker 1: you know that is bad body cam footage.
23:33
Speaker 2: A lot of people believe that if it's bad body cam,
23:37
Speaker 2: for some reason the body cam wasn't working.
23:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll release that when we can.
23:41
Speaker 4: The mic cut out.
23:42
Speaker 1: If you're... If the Big Ten had that video that
23:45
Speaker 1: exonerated the Big Ten when the entire world was saying
23:49
Speaker 1: the Big Ten fixed this game, they've got that video
23:52
Speaker 1: out in like 30 seconds. Like, how did they not
23:54
Speaker 1: have that video out before Lance Taylor even took the
23:59
Speaker 1: microphone at the podium?
24:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, this makes no sense. I mean, the Big Ten,
24:03
Speaker 4: you know, we finally anoint them the best conference and
24:06
Speaker 4: doing everything right. The Rutgers thing was an embarrassment, but
24:08
Speaker 4: it was Rutgers. And then now you get this. I mean,
24:12
Speaker 4: just imagine if you flip this around. Like, is there
24:15
Speaker 4: any chance that if Western Michigan is in the same situation,
24:18
Speaker 4: they get another?
24:19
Speaker 1: I think we all know the answer to that question.
24:20
Speaker 2: I want you to play it again because you're dead on, Lance,
24:23
Speaker 2: because you know what you don't hear is what kind
24:27
Speaker 2: of video.
24:29
Speaker 1: Evidence you have to have?
24:31
Speaker 4: Irrefutable. Irrefutable.
24:33
Speaker 2: You never hear is this. Guys, I don't know if
24:35
Speaker 2: it's a conclusion. You never hear any of that discussion.
24:38
Speaker 2: They are working their asses off to figure out how
24:41
Speaker 2: there's a second level. And listen how hard they're working.
24:44
Speaker 1: How many people are.
24:45
Speaker 2: Working to find a second?
24:48
Speaker 1: Listen.
24:49
Speaker 8: Where's the left one there?
24:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, look at program. Let's see here. We're taking a
24:53
Speaker 6: look here.
24:54
Speaker 8: Okay he's jumping out of bounds so when 18 is
24:57
Speaker 8: touching the foot now now you see that it's dead
25:00
Speaker 8: when he touches the ball when 18 is touching the
25:02
Speaker 8: football we've got one second on the clock i do
25:06
Speaker 8: see everybody.
25:07
Speaker 1: See one second yeah now where did this clock come
25:10
Speaker 1: from jim.
25:11
Speaker 4: Shut up by the way and by the way i
25:13
Speaker 4: don't think jim knew this rule i think they went
25:16
Speaker 4: back and they were like well how could this be
25:18
Speaker 4: a dead ball well if he's out of bounds and
25:20
Speaker 4: then he touches it now this is the rule right
25:23
Speaker 4: i think we all agree as messed up as the
25:25
Speaker 4: acc is and as non-competitive as they are at times
25:29
Speaker 4: their transparency when it comes to the replay like if
25:31
Speaker 4: we would have gone to that live they wouldn't have
25:33
Speaker 4: been able to get out of that that's probably one
25:35
Speaker 4: reason they other leagues don't know you.
25:38
Speaker 1: Should there should not be another snap Big 10, Big 12, SEC,
25:42
Speaker 1: or Notre Dame football without live replay on TV. The
25:45
Speaker 1: Big 10, this is the tipping point. When you have
25:48
Speaker 1: a fixed job like this, when the Big 10 fixes
25:50
Speaker 1: a game to bail out one of their elite schools
25:54
Speaker 1: because they're about to have one of the most embarrassing
25:56
Speaker 1: losses in school history, and that school has already taken
25:58
Speaker 1: on plenty of embarrassment. The last thing that school needed
26:01
Speaker 1: was another embarrassing moment in their football program, and this
26:05
Speaker 1: time it was going to happen on the field, and
26:06
Speaker 1: the Big 10 completely bailed them out of it. Once
26:09
Speaker 1: you get to that, it's a tipping point. You've lost
26:12
Speaker 1: college football because the Big Ten has lost the trust
26:15
Speaker 1: of the American public.
26:16
Speaker 4: I will say, though, I think this goes in a
26:18
Speaker 4: very positive direction for Lance Taylor and Western Michigan.
26:20
Speaker 6: I agree.
26:21
Speaker 4: From their president to the MAC commissioner.
26:25
Speaker 2: Well, the MAAC commissioner had to say that because you
26:27
Speaker 2: know how much money they make every year playing Big
26:30
Speaker 2: Ten teams.
26:30
Speaker 1: That's why somebody on Twitter was like, well, look what
26:31
Speaker 1: the MAAC commissioner said. I was like, the MAAC commissioner
26:34
Speaker 1: knows they're out of business without the Big Ten. Last
26:36
Speaker 1: thing they're going to do is just go blowtorch to.
26:38
Speaker 6: The Big Ten.
26:38
Speaker 1: They're basically a Big Ten subsidiary.
26:40
Speaker 6: Exactly.
26:41
Speaker 2: And really, he was going to have to try to
26:42
Speaker 2: beg the Big Ten to keep playing them because they
26:44
Speaker 2: were about to– they'd already– UMass had already walked in
26:47
Speaker 2: and spanked Rutgers on national television. This was about to
26:50
Speaker 2: be another Mac over Big Ten win.
26:51
Speaker 4: But watch out. I mean, I think that this team,
26:53
Speaker 4: you saw how they grinded it out. I mean, Lance Taylor,
26:56
Speaker 4: the way he coached in that game, he was playing
26:59
Speaker 4: to shorten the game. They had four field goals. It
27:03
Speaker 4: was masterful. Yeah, let's just grind this out. I mean,
27:06
Speaker 4: that 120-play drive that ended in a field goal to
27:08
Speaker 4: take the first lead of the game. With all this said,
27:11
Speaker 4: I think that they're going to win every game going forward,
27:13
Speaker 4: including Boise coming into their place.
27:16
Speaker 1: I really believe that. So I think that this is fantastic.
27:20
Speaker 4: Teams are going to fall in love, or voters and
27:22
Speaker 4: everybody's going to fall in love with this team because
27:24
Speaker 4: of what happened to them. So if they're able to go...
27:27
Speaker 4: Let's just say they beat Boise, go 10-2 and win
27:29
Speaker 4: the MAAC. I think they're very much in the discussion.
27:31
Speaker 2: Dude, if they don't lose again and I'm on the committee,
27:34
Speaker 2: I am counting them as an undefeated team.
27:37
Speaker 1: I would too, and I would have no problem saying it.
27:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd argue with you more than they were arguing.
27:41
Speaker 1: On that video. Oh, and by the way, you see
27:42
Speaker 1: his foot, right, Jim?
27:43
Speaker 4: Back to your voting, Michigan would be out of my
27:45
Speaker 4: top 25 for sure.
27:46
Speaker 1: Oh, were they in? Were they in?
27:47
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they were 16.
27:49
Speaker 1: Michigan was 16? Yeah. There's more than 15 better teams
27:52
Speaker 1: than Michigan, I can promise you.
27:54
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, man. For my Oklahoma having a
27:56
Speaker 4: feeling they're going to have a great season, dangerous spot
27:59
Speaker 4: for Oklahoma this weekend.
28:01
Speaker 1: I mean, it is.
28:01
Speaker 4: Do you guys not agree?
28:02
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't, Lance.
28:04
Speaker 1: Underwood is.
28:06
Speaker 4: I mean, Underwood, he can't complete passes. Before the two
28:10
Speaker 4: completions to end the game, he was, let me get this.
28:15
Speaker 1: One of which is a Hail Mary.
28:17
Speaker 4: 10 of 20, 95 yards, zero touchdowns, one pick.
28:20
Speaker 1: Against Western Michigan. I mean, a ton of respect for
28:23
Speaker 1: Lance Taylor and Western Michigan, but that's Western Michigan.
28:25
Speaker 4: But does it make any sense? They upgraded their coaching staff, right?
28:28
Speaker 4: This is year two of Underwood.
28:30
Speaker 6: They did.
28:30
Speaker 1: They did on paper.
28:32
Speaker 2: They did on paper, but you have to admit, As
28:35
Speaker 2: that game went on, that's the first time Kyle Whittingham ever.
28:38
Speaker 1: Looked his age.
28:38
Speaker 2: He never looked older. He never looked older than he did.
28:41
Speaker 2: And at the end, he never looked more lost like
28:43
Speaker 2: old people usually are. I can say I'm one of them.
28:47
Speaker 2: He looked lost at the end. And I've said it
28:49
Speaker 2: all along. He looks like a placeholder.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. I never believed you until I watched that game.
28:55
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know that he can coach
28:57
Speaker 1: a year with Underwood at quarterback. I mean, it may
28:58
Speaker 1: kill him.
29:00
Speaker 2: I mean, they are staring six and six, five and seven.
29:04
Speaker 1: Right down the barrel.
29:05
Speaker 4: If it's not for J.J. Buchanan, the grab that he
29:08
Speaker 4: made to put him in the situation for the Hail Mary.
29:11
Speaker 4: But I will tell you, back on the clock operation,
29:13
Speaker 4: I don't know what you guys thought, but I'm sitting
29:14
Speaker 4: there thinking to myself, Michigan's supposed to get the benefit
29:17
Speaker 4: of the doubt on their home clock operator. They took
29:20
Speaker 4: too many seconds off. Now they added it back to
29:22
Speaker 4: nine seconds, but I think it should have been at ten.
29:24
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that... This thing played out like karma-wise
29:28
Speaker 4: for Michigan because of that, but there should have been
29:31
Speaker 4: more time on the clock in my opinion.
29:33
Speaker 2: Most game operations, there's a striped shirt that runs the
29:37
Speaker 2: clock on the sidelines.
29:38
Speaker 6: Right.
29:39
Speaker 2: There's not an official on the field, but there's a.
29:41
Speaker 2: a guy with a very bulky cord that moves up
29:43
Speaker 2: and down and starts and stops the clock. Is that
29:46
Speaker 2: the way they still do it?
29:46
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, that's the way I've seen
29:48
Speaker 1: it done, yeah. That is it.
29:49
Speaker 4: I mean, that catch by Buchanan was just incredible.
29:50
Speaker 1: Oh, it's an incredible play. It should have never happened.
29:52
Speaker 2: It's not like Bryce Underwood's dad is up in the
29:53
Speaker 2: press box running the old school clock.
29:55
Speaker 4: But I do think, like all of the equity Michigan
29:58
Speaker 4: built up with that national championship three years ago is
30:00
Speaker 4: now gone. You stormed the field over a team in
30:03
Speaker 4: the MAAC that has never, by the way, never had
30:05
Speaker 4: a top 20 win in their programs.
30:07
Speaker 2: Dude, dude, I didn't understand storming the field.
30:10
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
30:11
Speaker 4: I understand standing in the crowd going, holy shit, what
30:14
Speaker 4: just happened with your body?
30:15
Speaker 1: We got away.
30:15
Speaker 4: With filming like this. But running down on the field
30:18
Speaker 4: is insane.
30:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this. Lance Taylor played football at Alabama.
30:22
Speaker 1: We've always been a fan of his. Lance follows the show.
30:25
Speaker 6: I think.
30:29
Speaker 1: If I'm hiring a coach, I watch that. Aside from
30:32
Speaker 1: how it ended and how he handled it, just the
30:35
Speaker 1: way he handled himself on the sidelines and the way
30:38
Speaker 1: he coached that game, it was a masterful coaching job. Now,
30:40
Speaker 1: I would say we texted in the group text. I
30:43
Speaker 1: don't know that I kicked that last field goal. I'm
30:45
Speaker 1: not kicking that last field goal. I thought you should
30:47
Speaker 1: have gone for it and tried to end the game
30:50
Speaker 1: right there. I get why he did it. It puts
30:53
Speaker 1: you up by more than a field goal, and you
30:56
Speaker 1: don't think Michigan could score a touchdown, which they couldn't.
31:00
Speaker 1: I get why he kicked it, but all it does
31:02
Speaker 1: is bring in a block kick return for a touchdown
31:04
Speaker 1: to beat you. and then Michigan being able to at
31:07
Speaker 1: least get the ball back in hand and do something,
31:08
Speaker 1: which they did.
31:09
Speaker 4: I had switched that game to the big because we
31:13
Speaker 4: had people over, and I was like, you guys have
31:15
Speaker 4: got to hear, he's got one of the more interesting accents,
31:18
Speaker 4: Lance Taylor. So after this, this post-game interview is going
31:21
Speaker 4: to be great, and then obviously what happened, and then
31:23
Speaker 4: everybody's cussing. I can't believe this.
31:25
Speaker 2: But at the end on that fourth down, if you
31:29
Speaker 2: kick the field goal and it goes through, then you're
31:31
Speaker 2: up five, touchdown still beats you, which is why I
31:33
Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it. You get the field goal blocked,
31:35
Speaker 2: and it's returned the other way.
31:37
Speaker 1: It's game over.
31:38
Speaker 2: If you miss the field goal, you're still in the
31:40
Speaker 2: same situation as if you go for it and you don't.
31:43
Speaker 2: I mean, kickers miss field goals all the time. All
31:45
Speaker 2: the time in college, yeah.
31:46
Speaker 4: That kid was three of three, though.
31:48
Speaker 1: I know. That kid was nails that night.
31:51
Speaker 2: I would have ended it there. And, no, I haven't
31:55
Speaker 2: heard anybody talk about this. Listen, who rushed one guy
32:02
Speaker 2: and they had 10 back and got beat with a
32:03
Speaker 2: Hail Mary?
32:04
Speaker 1: It happened?
32:04
Speaker 4: No, it was Thursday night, Illinois and UAB.
32:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. It was going to half. UAB rushed one guy.
32:09
Speaker 1: That's right. Hail Mary gave him a touchdown. Can't do that.
32:12
Speaker 2: But if you're going to put six at the line,
32:14
Speaker 2: rush six because they had six at the line on
32:17
Speaker 2: the second go-around. I think they had three the first time.
32:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're not rushing on six, what are
32:22
Speaker 4: you doing?
32:22
Speaker 1: That's right. Two dropped back.
32:24
Speaker 2: Well, you're not dropping back in time to get to
32:26
Speaker 2: the end zone to help out.
32:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the numbers aren't even at that point.
32:29
Speaker 1: That's right.
32:29
Speaker 2: If you've got six on the line, rush six. You
32:31
Speaker 2: don't have two drop out. You're not trying to fool
32:33
Speaker 2: anybody at that point.
32:34
Speaker 1: It's a hell man. Underwood got popped on the board.
32:36
Speaker 4: Oh, the pressure was great. It was just, again, it
32:38
Speaker 4: was an incredible grab. And, you know, Underwood even said
32:42
Speaker 4: it on that first toss. He was like, I thought
32:44
Speaker 4: the game was over. I saw nothing but zeros.
32:46
Speaker 1: But you knew it. Like, my wife... was that was
32:50
Speaker 1: the point of the night she was downstairs. And for
32:51
Speaker 1: some reason, my daughter had come downstairs and I'm like,
32:54
Speaker 1: Hey guys, top right TV, most exciting playing football, Hail Mary.
32:58
Speaker 1: And then it goes incomplete. And then everybody else goes
33:00
Speaker 1: back to what they're doing. We still had on LSU
33:02
Speaker 1: Clemson for some reason. And I noticed everything happening. I
33:06
Speaker 1: never moved it to the main. I wish I'd moved
33:07
Speaker 1: it to the main screen. Oh, they're going to get
33:09
Speaker 1: another play. I said, I don't, I said, and I
33:12
Speaker 1: told Jennifer, I go, this is terrible news for West
33:14
Speaker 1: Western Michigan. She had picked up on the Lance Taylor
33:16
Speaker 1: thing too. Right. I said, it's terrible news for Lance Taylor.
33:18
Speaker 1: She goes, why? I said, He's gotten a second bite
33:21
Speaker 1: at the apple. You never want that second Hail Mary.
33:22
Speaker 1: She goes, Ryan, he threw the first one in the
33:24
Speaker 1: first row. I go, but he won't make that mistake again.
33:27
Speaker 1: This one will be underthrown, if anything.
33:29
Speaker 2: 20 kilometers to your right.
33:31
Speaker 1: Dial that back in. This one may not make it
33:33
Speaker 1: to the end zone. He ain't going to overthrow it again.
33:36
Speaker 1: I think that's why it was complete.
33:37
Speaker 6: He threw it a little short.
33:37
Speaker 1: I agree.
33:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a weird feeling.
33:40
Speaker 1: Oh, I know.
33:40
Speaker 6: I did too.
33:41
Speaker 1: When they got the second bite, I was like, this
33:42
Speaker 1: is bad news. I even said it out loud to Jennifer.
33:44
Speaker 1: I go, this is bad news for other Lance Taylor.
33:46
Speaker 4: Back to what we heard from John Summerall a couple
33:49
Speaker 4: of years ago. The first time we ever had him on,
33:51
Speaker 4: we asked him about the Appalachian State Hail Mary against
33:55
Speaker 4: Troy in the walk-off. And he said, without that, I
33:57
Speaker 4: don't think we regroup as a team. Like Western Michigan,
34:00
Speaker 4: I don't think they would have had that problem anyway.
34:01
Speaker 4: I think they are super focused. You heard about the offseason.
34:04
Speaker 4: They retained a lot of their great players, how hard
34:06
Speaker 4: they worked in the offseason to have a special season.
34:09
Speaker 4: But it's them against the world now. Mac better watch out.
34:14
Speaker 2: Crockett coffee in a second. I had to grab me
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Speaker 2: some Crockett coffee and sit back and enjoy social media
34:20
Speaker 2: after this ending because people were as bad as social
34:24
Speaker 2: media can be sometimes. There are moments it's fantastic. And
34:28
Speaker 2: we have several things off of this game. Forrester, just
34:31
Speaker 2: give me the first one. Just pick any of them.
34:34
Speaker 2: I think we have three things here. It's a remarkable stat.
34:37
Speaker 2: It's my favorite one from Brian Fagan. Prior to Western Michigan,
34:41
Speaker 2: college football teams were 110,352-0 when leading after the end
34:47
Speaker 2: of regulation, dating back to 1869. Dating back.
34:51
Speaker 4: That's a hell of a percentage.
34:54
Speaker 1: I like it.
34:54
Speaker 2: That's every game ever played. Great research from Brian there.
34:57
Speaker 2: Give me the next one. The NCAA has now introduced
35:01
Speaker 2: stoppage time, just like we had in World Cup soccer.
35:05
Speaker 2: Plus one second, please. That's a fantastic AI. It's tremendous.
35:10
Speaker 2: This was a Bryce Underwood got killed. What, $ 15 million
35:14
Speaker 2: bought you in 1803 versus what it buys you in 2026.
35:21
Speaker 2: America for $ 11. 5 million was able to buy all of
35:24
Speaker 2: the Louisiana purchase.
35:26
Speaker 1: God, Bryce Underwood. How did they get conned into paying
35:29
Speaker 1: that kind of money for him? And we've all seen
35:30
Speaker 1: these signs. LSU was going to do it, by the way. Yeah.
35:33
Speaker 1: We've all seen these.
35:34
Speaker 2: Signs traveling across state lines. When you're driving into the
35:37
Speaker 2: state of Michigan, into Ann Arbor, they've got signs up now.
35:40
Speaker 2: Entering Ann Arbor, please set your clock back one second.
35:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.
35:45
Speaker 2: A lot of fun on social media. You know what's crazy?
35:47
Speaker 4: And I know as we move forward this week, we'll
35:49
Speaker 4: get to this. But Western Michigan is just a poor, poor,
35:53
Speaker 4: poor man's Oklahoma. So Bryce Underwood is about to see
35:57
Speaker 4: Western Michigan as far as discipline, coaching. He's about to
36:02
Speaker 4: see that on steroids coming up this week. And like,
36:07
Speaker 4: how do they do anything to, to have any kind
36:11
Speaker 4: of production, you know, as far as offensive production against that.
36:15
Speaker 4: But I mean, the number's only four and a half.
36:18
Speaker 1: No way. It's four and a half. Open at five
36:21
Speaker 1: and a half. It's down to four and a half.
36:22
Speaker 4: I think it's four and a half right now.
36:24
Speaker 6: Again.
36:25
Speaker 2: So it's gone down a point because so many people
36:27
Speaker 2: are betting Oklahoma, right?
36:29
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you've got.
36:30
Speaker 4: Unless you've got some, you know, big money on the
36:32
Speaker 4: other side. No, I mean, it's, It's moved because there's
36:35
Speaker 4: been money on the other side.
36:36
Speaker 1: There's been money on Michigan?
36:37
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, no, the public money is all over. Like,
36:42
Speaker 4: amount of tickets, it's all coming on Oklahoma.
36:45
Speaker 6: Of course it is.
36:46
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I think there was some big money
36:47
Speaker 4: that got popped the other side.
36:48
Speaker 2: I mean, I will pull out a savings to put
36:50
Speaker 2: money on Oklahoma this week.
36:52
Speaker 1: There you go. That's what you wanted to.
36:53
Speaker 4: Hear right there, Lance.
36:54
Speaker 2: I mean, would you not?
36:57
Speaker 4: It actually got up to six and a half. It's
36:58
Speaker 4: five and a half right now.
36:59
Speaker 1: I texted Lance as soon as it was over. I said,
37:01
Speaker 1: I have no clue what the point spread will be.
37:04
Speaker 1: Because I know he's good at doing that. Here's what
37:05
Speaker 1: the points spread. I said, I have no clue what
37:07
Speaker 1: the points spread will be, but it will not matter.
37:09
Speaker 1: The American public will run to the window. Too bad
37:13
Speaker 1: on Oklahoma in this game.
37:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would climb over humans to get to the window.
37:17
Speaker 1: I was like, it will not matter. They could put
37:19
Speaker 1: the number at 80,000 if they wanted to.
37:21
Speaker 4: I finally exercised the 11 o'clock demons last year. I
37:23
Speaker 4: was 0-3 this Saturday.
37:25
Speaker 6: 11 a.m.
37:25
Speaker 1: If you're new to the show.
37:27
Speaker 4: If I wouldn't have played 11 o'clock, I have a
37:29
Speaker 4: winning weekend. This game's at 11 o'clock coming up this weekend,
37:32
Speaker 4: so I will stay. I will be on the sidelines
37:34
Speaker 4: for it. So you're not even considering it. I am
37:36
Speaker 4: not even considering it. I think Michigan's the right side.
37:38
Speaker 4: I really do.
37:39
Speaker 6: No, you do not.
37:40
Speaker 4: I really do.
37:41
Speaker 1: And you love Oklahoma, don't you?
37:42
Speaker 7: I do.
37:44
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Mateer is really going to struggle
37:46
Speaker 4: in this game.
37:47
Speaker 1: He can't struggle more than under one.
37:49
Speaker 2: He'll still be the best quarterback on the field. He
37:53
Speaker 2: can run in with his 20-25 thumb and still be
37:55
Speaker 2: the best quarterback on the field.
37:57
Speaker 4: You think Venables would have rather had Michigan win this
38:00
Speaker 4: game or lose it?
38:01
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters.
38:03
Speaker 4: I don't think he cares. I think it got more magnified.
38:06
Speaker 4: Like this game, people would be like, damn, Michigan got upset.
38:09
Speaker 4: But I think it would not be nearly noticed as
38:11
Speaker 4: much as it was.
38:12
Speaker 1: Oklahoma played Friday night. I think Venables turned it off
38:15
Speaker 1: in the third quarter and said, who we got week three?
38:17
Speaker 6: Yeah.
38:17
Speaker 1: So let's move on to week three.
38:20
Speaker 2: I think Venables was able to– he had both of
38:23
Speaker 2: these games. He had LSU Clemson on one TV.
38:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.
38:26
Speaker 1: And he had Michigan and Western Michigan on the other TV.
38:29
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, if I go three and nine
38:33
Speaker 2: here this year at Oklahoma, I know where I can.
38:34
Speaker 1: Get a job. I can go back to Clemson. Okay.
38:38
Speaker 4: Seesaw.
38:40
Speaker 2: Percentage that Michigan wins this game. Percentage that Michigan wins it?
38:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
38:46
Speaker 1: 15%.
38:49
Speaker 4: Holy hell.
38:51
Speaker 1: Did you watch Underwood? You watched Oklahoma's defense. I get it.
38:55
Speaker 1: And you watched Underwood.
38:56
Speaker 4: There is no way Michigan. By the way, Western Michigan
38:58
Speaker 4: is a really, really good group 16.
39:00
Speaker 1: Oh, heck yeah.
39:01
Speaker 4: Michigan's offense looked horrible. I really believe they thought that
39:06
Speaker 4: they could go out as a four-touchdown favorite and not
39:08
Speaker 4: show a lot.
39:09
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't.
39:09
Speaker 4: Jason Beck, new offense coordinator.
39:11
Speaker 1: I agree.
39:12
Speaker 4: I don't think they're this bad. I think they're bad.
39:15
Speaker 4: By Michigan standards, but I don't think they're that bad.
39:17
Speaker 2: The Underwoods have not been exposed more since Fletch was
39:21
Speaker 2: putting it on their tab at the Country Club.
39:23
Speaker 1: Okay, I know we'll get to this, too. Underhills.
39:26
Speaker 4: There is no way you guys would take Auburn neutral
39:29
Speaker 4: site Michigan, right?
39:31
Speaker 1: Oh, God, what a terrible offensive game. No, I don't
39:34
Speaker 1: know about that. I don't know. I mean, it's not
39:38
Speaker 1: Auburn going to play.
39:39
Speaker 4: No, the reason I bring this up is I'm talking
39:40
Speaker 4: about like a middling team right now in the SEC.
39:43
Speaker 4: That's probably what Michigan is.
39:46
Speaker 1: They got the worst quarterback in the SEC.
39:48
Speaker 4: Which is said they wouldn't have the worst quarterback.
39:50
Speaker 1: In the SEC. Who's worse than Underwood?
39:52
Speaker 4: Byron Brown looked worse on Saturday.
39:54
Speaker 1: Byron Brown at least completed passes. Now, some of them
39:56
Speaker 1: were to the wrong team.
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Speaker 2: My turn to pick, I'm going to pick Baylor and
42:50
Speaker 2: Auburn because though it wasn't always great football, it was
42:54
Speaker 2: a very entertaining game. down to a two-point decision by
42:58
Speaker 2: Dave Aranda. If I did social media for anyone at Auburn,
43:03
Speaker 2: I would have done a Game of Thrones motif with
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Speaker 2: Winters is coming. He makes the tackle at the goal
43:10
Speaker 2: line on the two-point play and wins the game for
43:14
Speaker 2: Auburn 17-16. The downside is that Auburn was in a
43:20
Speaker 2: situation where two-point conversion was going to beat them. In
43:24
Speaker 2: the past, Auburn, the last five years, Auburn has lost
43:26
Speaker 2: these kind of games. The downside is Byron Brown had
43:30
Speaker 2: three interceptions. Here's his coach, Alex Golish, after the game.
43:35
Speaker 5: Kept going over on the bench, be good.
43:37
Speaker 6: Coach, I'm good, man.
43:38
Speaker 1: With a smile.
43:40
Speaker 7: It's part of being a veteran, part of being ready
43:45
Speaker 7: for the moment. He's a special football player, special human.
43:52
Speaker 3: Man.
43:54
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that's the first one.
43:56
Speaker 7: I guess it is. These guys made it really hard.
43:58
Speaker 7: And again, I blame us more than Byram. We tried
44:03
Speaker 7: to force some things to try to push it down
44:05
Speaker 7: the field where, man, I just felt like we kept
44:13
Speaker 7: driving and stalling right in that middle of the field,
44:17
Speaker 7: that 50 to 40. And I felt like we just
44:20
Speaker 7: had to go end it. Like, Ma'am, I take more
44:25
Speaker 7: blame for the picks than, to be honest with you, Byron.
44:29
Speaker 7: That's on us as much as anybody, really on me,
44:33
Speaker 7: trying to force it a little bit.
44:35
Speaker 1: So I've got to be better. I will be. Well,
44:38
Speaker 1: that's a difference, by the way, is Coach not blaming
44:40
Speaker 1: his players. Auburn had a lot of that. I loved it.
44:43
Speaker 4: I forgot who was the sideline reporter that interviewed him
44:48
Speaker 4: after the game.
44:49
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying to remember.
44:50
Speaker 6: Taylor Davis?
44:51
Speaker 1: No. Was it Stormy?
44:54
Speaker 4: Anyway, she asked the question, what do you guys need
44:56
Speaker 4: to work on? He was like, ooh, you guys, you know,
44:58
Speaker 4: it's a long list. And then he started listing. But
45:01
Speaker 4: I mean, I was like, A, B, C.
45:05
Speaker 1: He made my post-game interview for Brooks, I mean, post-game
45:07
Speaker 1: video for Brooks. Very easy. All I did was repeat
45:10
Speaker 1: exactly what Alex was saying.
45:11
Speaker 4: I think the biggest problem, or twofold, I did not
45:14
Speaker 4: think the secondary was going to be a problem. The
45:16
Speaker 4: secondary is a massive problem. There were holes throughout. Like,
45:20
Speaker 4: I couldn't decide... Like, DJ Lagway at times looked good. Yeah, well,
45:24
Speaker 4: that first drive before he got hurt. Yeah, before the fumble?
45:28
Speaker 1: Before the fumble, which, again, that's Lagway's problem is he
45:30
Speaker 1: does not value the football. But before the fumble, man,
45:34
Speaker 1: he was making pro throws.
45:35
Speaker 4: Well, I just, you know, the Gavin Freeman kid was
45:40
Speaker 4: open all freaking day long, and Jaden Porter was, too.
45:44
Speaker 2: Freeman was a walk-on at Oklahoma. and then he's worked
45:48
Speaker 2: his way to Baylor, and he's making those plays.
45:50
Speaker 4: Well, he was, and you heard this on the broadcast,
45:52
Speaker 4: he was at Oak State last year, and Dave Aranda
45:54
Speaker 4: said he was one of the more difficult covers, so
45:55
Speaker 4: they went out and they get him in the portal
45:57
Speaker 4: with the coaching transition, and Apparently, Eric Morris needed to
46:01
Speaker 4: find a way for Gavin Freeman to stay on that
46:03
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State roster. With all that said, man, I just
46:06
Speaker 4: thought these receivers were open all day. I wonder if
46:08
Speaker 4: Porter would have made the grab before he makes the
46:11
Speaker 4: first and goal grab, the easy touchdown.
46:13
Speaker 1: The one that was in his hands in the end zone?
46:15
Speaker 4: Did they kick the extra point at that?
46:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's enough time left. I think they probably do.
46:19
Speaker 2: I think that time on the clock was the whole
46:21
Speaker 2: reason Aranda went for two. And you've got a quarterback
46:24
Speaker 2: that's not mobile anymore because he's got an injured ankle.
46:26
Speaker 2: It was your chance to walk it off. It was
46:28
Speaker 2: a great play design. If he throws it to the
46:31
Speaker 2: other side of his body, he walks into it.
46:33
Speaker 6: Easy, yeah.
46:34
Speaker 1: And just trips and falls.
46:35
Speaker 4: Still came down to inches. Auburn's offensive line is, I think,
46:39
Speaker 4: a problem. Byron Brown looked a step slow.
46:42
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
46:43
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys felt like that. He
46:45
Speaker 4: looked a step slow from what I had seen before,
46:47
Speaker 4: and I don't think that's the difference between playing group
46:50
Speaker 4: six and Baylor. He looked a step slow.
46:54
Speaker 2: The way you said it, Baylor– I'm wondering what Baylor's
46:58
Speaker 2: going to be because if it was Baylor that we
46:59
Speaker 2: had last year, then I think you're really concerned about
47:02
Speaker 2: Auburn moving forward.
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Speaker 4: Well, I said this last week. Baylor's defense is going
47:07
Speaker 4: to be improved. It has to be. And the offense
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Speaker 4: isn't going to be as good.
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Speaker 2: They did spend a lot of money, apparently. You saw
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Speaker 2: that in the broadcast of NIL money on that defensive
47:17
Speaker 2: line that worked Auburn's offensive line throughout that game. I
47:20
Speaker 2: was surprised that Auburn– they didn't really– start dominating running
47:26
Speaker 2: the football. I thought they'd be able to, with Cobb
47:28
Speaker 2: and Brown, I thought they'd be able to run the
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Speaker 2: ball a little bit.
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Speaker 4: At least we got that answer. I mean, most people
47:33
Speaker 4: believe that Cobb was going to be the guy, but
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Speaker 4: Bryson Washington against his former team, only one touch in
47:38
Speaker 4: that game. I mean, the good news for Auburn is
47:40
Speaker 4: you get Southern Miss, but if you were playing Florida
47:42
Speaker 4: next week, you would not feel good about that matchup.
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Speaker 1: You would not. Now, before I say what I'm about
47:47
Speaker 1: to say, I know Deshaun Womack, who is one of
47:50
Speaker 1: their best pass rushers, left the game, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know about you guys. I was stunned how little pressure
47:55
Speaker 1: Auburn could get on a one-legged quarterback. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: dead in that pocket. If you can just get to him,
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Speaker 1: he's probably going to crumble. He can't go down. They
48:02
Speaker 1: couldn't get to him.
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Speaker 4: Well, in that first drive, you see Xavier Atkins get
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Speaker 4: the only sack of the day, and you're like, damn,
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Speaker 4: this might be a long day for Lagway.
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Speaker 1: I know. I mean, Atkins looked like he was fired
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Speaker 1: out of a cannon on that sack. And I'm with Lance.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oof, they'll be all over Lagway all day.
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Speaker 1: They did not touch him again in the backfield. And
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Speaker 1: on the flip side, let's just talk lines of scrimmage here,
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Speaker 1: because on the flip side– All Baylor did was make
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Speaker 1: tackles for losses. I mean, it was one tackle for
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Speaker 1: loss after another. Was it 12? Is that what they
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Speaker 1: ended up with? I saw differing numbers. I've seen 11.
48:31
Speaker 1: I've seen 12.
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Speaker 4: I've got 11 here.
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Speaker 1: It's double-digit. Let's just say double-digit. That's scary enough if
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Speaker 1: you just get into the double-digit tackles for losses. And
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Speaker 1: just on lines of scrimmage, I was surprised Auburn couldn't
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Speaker 1: pressure the passer more than they did. And I was
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Speaker 1: surprised they allowed their running backs and quarterback to get
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Speaker 1: hit in the backfield as much as they did.
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Speaker 4: But the most important thing is they do get the win.
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Speaker 4: We will probably forget about the way that game played
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Speaker 4: out as the season moves on. And 10 consecutive opening
48:59
Speaker 4: season wins for Auburn. So that would have been a problem.
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Speaker 4: As bad as these seasons have been for Auburn, they
49:04
Speaker 4: always seem to get the opener. So if Golish drops
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Speaker 4: the opener with what they've got coming up, we've talked
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Speaker 4: about that all summer long, that was going to be
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Speaker 4: a problem. But Hey, look, they found a way to
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Speaker 4: get the win.
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Speaker 2: Andy Staples at the top of the hour. Real quickly,
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Speaker 2: Alabama here. We'll get more into Alabama and Auburn and
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Speaker 2: everything else coming up. in Hour 3 of the show
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Speaker 2: when we flip over to the next round. But real quickly,
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Speaker 2: just a thought on what you saw from Keelan Russell
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Speaker 2: in his debut as Alabama's starter.
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Speaker 4: So we've seen two other starting quarterbacks for Keelan DeVore
49:36
Speaker 4: at Alabama, Jayla Melrow, Ty Simpson. To me, it looked
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Speaker 4: like a combination of both of those guys. Like his escapability.
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Speaker 2: Kalen Frankenstein got in the lab over there and took
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Speaker 2: a little mill road.
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Speaker 4: This is not a bad thing. My only criticism of
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Speaker 4: Russell would be he has got to find some touch
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Speaker 4: on the football. Keen Holtz last night, you talked about
49:56
Speaker 4: the touch for that big guy. These were little BBs
49:59
Speaker 4: he was throwing. It reminded me of when I first
50:01
Speaker 4: saw Lamar Jackson play, which is a high compliment.
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Speaker 6: And Lamar.
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Speaker 4: finally refined throwing the football and learned how to put
50:08
Speaker 4: a little touch on it. I mean, he's just throwing
50:10
Speaker 4: BBs all over the place.
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Speaker 2: Eleven pressures, and he had to escape from a lot
50:14
Speaker 2: of pressure from that East Carolina line.
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Speaker 1: And that is a problem.
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Speaker 4: Like this offensive line, I know on paper they ran
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Speaker 4: the football, but I thought they got pushed off the
50:24
Speaker 4: ball a lot. Like I don't know how much different
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Speaker 4: this offensive line is going to be.
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Speaker 1: If you take Russell's scrambles out of the rush yardage,
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Speaker 1: And the only reason I'm saying that is because those
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Speaker 1: are not called runs. That's him getting pressure and having
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Speaker 1: to scramble. I don't know that you'd feel any better
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Speaker 1: about Alabama's rush attack than what you did last year.
50:41
Speaker 1: And I don't know that people feel great about it
50:42
Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: Like one of Daniel Hill's best runs, he got hit
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Speaker 2: in the backfield and had to shake him off and
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Speaker 2: keep going.
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Speaker 1: That happened a lot. Now Crowell looked different.
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Speaker 6: EJ looked different.
50:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your best running back.
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Speaker 4: But you'll know more about Alabama, obviously, coming up this weekend,
50:57
Speaker 4: going to Lexington, a game that they're a double-digit favorite.
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Speaker 4: They should win, but you'll know a little bit more
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Speaker 4: about the offensive line. But here's the thing, from one
51:03
Speaker 4: season to the next, I know LSU has improved and
51:06
Speaker 4: can run the football. LSU had more rushing yards in
51:09
Speaker 4: the first half against Clemson than they had in any
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Speaker 4: game last year. So that immediately is, that's why LSU
51:17
Speaker 4: is a contender. Because they can run the football and
51:19
Speaker 4: their defense is going to be dominant. Alabama, I don't
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Speaker 4: know about the offensive line and running the football.
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Speaker 1: It felt like maybe the run blocking was a bit improved,
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Speaker 1: but it felt like they take a big step back
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Speaker 1: in the pass blocking. I say that. Simpson was running
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Speaker 1: for his life all last year, too.
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Speaker 4: But I don't think Simpson could have gotten out of
51:36
Speaker 4: some of the things Russell did.
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Speaker 1: Russell was a magician to get out of some of that.
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Speaker 2: We'll dot more into Alabama coming up to start the
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Speaker 2: next round part of the show in an hour. Andy
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Speaker 2: Staples on the other side. The Atlanta Falcons have named
51:47
Speaker 2: Tua Tungvaloa the starter in week one over Michael Penix.
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Speaker 2: So that story from the NFL as we kick off
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Speaker 2: the NFL season on Wednesday night. Staples, when we come back,
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Speaker 2: this is the next round presented by Hard Rock Bets
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Speaker 2: right here on Sporting State.