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The Predator Among Us | Episode 238 · Voices for Voices®

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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to another episode of Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We are marching towards that 300 number of our total show catalog by the end of 2025.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's very exciting, and we have before then we have a lot of exciting information that I think you'll like coming from Voices for Voices, and so from there we jump into our episode today.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Past and returning guest David Solomon.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We are, on this particular episode, going to be talking about the human trafficker, the individual that goes by Brian Allen Davis Allen Davis, brian Davis and has been skirting not only the law but has been going scot-free from town to town, city to city, convention to convention, with books, with content that we might view as not good.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're going to look at this from a good not good, and I'll just give a brief example Robbing a bank not good.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sitting down with your child drawing coloring, that's good.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's how we're going to look at this particular conversation with David.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, david, welcome again to the show.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's always a blessing to have you with us.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Impart your experience and your care for not only your family, but families and children all across the world, so we'll let you take it from here.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thanks for joining us, david.
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David Solomon: Yes, absolutely.
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David Solomon: Thank you for having me.
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David Solomon: You know, I really prayed about how to handle today and it's very heavy up my heart this episode.
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David Solomon: So this is going to be a heavy, heavy one.
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David Solomon: So here it goes, um, so here it goes.
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David Solomon: So I'm putting aside, like my bad blood with this author Um and if you're listening, I'm a survivor of human trafficking.
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David Solomon: This author um had, uh, had something to do with that and, you know, has openly talked about talking to kids about sex and rape and cutting, and we're really trying to spread the word on that and I just want to.
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David Solomon: I want to go back to what brought me here.
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David Solomon: I was 11 years old when I met Mr.
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David Solomon: Brian Davis and it was something he was this great author doing the Bible and dragons, and he was mixing mythology with the Bible in modern day.
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David Solomon: It was really cool.
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David Solomon: It was unheard of.
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David Solomon: There were only a few writers at the time in Christian fantasy Ted Decker, frank Peretti, jerry Jenkins, kathy Tylers and it was really cool to see that.
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David Solomon: And when I read Dragons in Our Midst, it touched me.
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David Solomon: It actually brought me closer to my faith.
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David Solomon: At one point I was going to take my own life because of a very bad circumstance.
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David Solomon: That happened and it saved me.
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David Solomon: Me, and that's when I really knew if one man could be used by God to create something that astonishing.
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David Solomon: I wanted to do that to make a difference in someone's life, and so that made me want to write stories of faith and I'm crying about it.
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David Solomon: Today's been an emotional day anyway, because that was, that was the moment when I knew that that was my calling, and so I watched that book Save Someone Else's Life that I met and I passed it around my church to time and I saw when they read the book it made a difference in their life, and so I saw the good, and that's what's so hard about this is I saw the good.
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David Solomon: You know Tony, uh 15, he was doing drugs and he read the book and he, uh, he confessed that he did drugs and he turned his life around.
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David Solomon: And so my heart breaks for the next part of this, and it's not easy.
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David Solomon: But it was because of that trust that I put in that author that that he and I had private conversations and became somewhat of a, a father figure to all of us.
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David Solomon: You know kids that turned our lives around.
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David Solomon: And there's no denying that Somewhere along the road he stopped writing those books and he started writing other books and he became someone else.
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David Solomon: You know, ghostwriting for him was an honor and a privilege, because that book saved my life.
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David Solomon: So why would I refuse, right?
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David Solomon: Even though I was a minor, you know, and my mom was, so she was happy that it saved my life, but she was cautious because he was private, messaging me every day and masturbation came up in topics.
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David Solomon: There were some red flags with my mom when she saw that.
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David Solomon: So anyway, I made the mistake of trusting him.
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David Solomon: In a very sensitive time.
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David Solomon: My mom was diagnosed with stage four non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
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David Solomon: It's a blood cancer and it's terminal.
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David Solomon: She was given three months to live.
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David Solomon: We had some bad blood and bad fallout but, I go stroke for him.
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David Solomon: And he was cool, he was the only father I knew, right, and so I told him I needed prayer and he asked where I was living and I said Oregon City, and that was that.
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David Solomon: And apparently he had sent some friends of his to meet my mom and I was taken from that point.
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David Solomon: And so that's what's so hard it's like so much good happened from this man and then so much bad 12 years of bad because that's how I was trafficked, right, no-transcript.
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David Solomon: Brian I'm going to be very careful how I say this, because I really prayed about this moment has a new book called Sacred Scales coming out in a few days, june 3rd.
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David Solomon: I read the.
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David Solomon: I read why he wrote it.
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David Solomon: Brian at the time was reaching out to my 8 year old.
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David Solomon: He was trying to get a hold of him through different means.
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David Solomon: He was angry.
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David Solomon: He reached my stepfather, he reached all my other friends.
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David Solomon: He emailed him, trying to get a hold of him through different means.
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David Solomon: He was angry.
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David Solomon: He reached my stepfather, he reached all my other friends, he emailed them.
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David Solomon: He threatened Because at that time I had come out as a victim of human trafficking because of him, and he was angry and so I was a little shocked and perplexed that the new book is for the age of eight and nine and my son is that age and I was a little bit concerned about that.
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David Solomon: What are the chances?
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David Solomon: So I started to read the synopsis and then I talked to some people that are around him at some conferences and kind of got a little feel for why he's doing this and it's a personal vendetta.
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David Solomon: So I started to read the synopsis.
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David Solomon: My name's been dropped several times and I haven't even mentioned him in my circles.
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David Solomon: So the story is to rewrite the book that brought me to God, which is called Dragons in Our Midst, raising Dragons and Candlestones.
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David Solomon: Not to say that it won't cross over into his other series, eye of the Oracle or Children of the Bard, but it's kind of unique that he's rewriting what God used to bring kids to God and now he's rewriting it.
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David Solomon: And so it just breaks my heart that we're here.
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David Solomon: This godly man who I looked up to, who all kids looked up to at my church, by the way, who I looked up to, who all kids looked up to at my church, by the way has done this.
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David Solomon: Went on a show for two hours and called me a liar called me Cody, my wife a whore, just horrible things, and it just breaks my heart.
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David Solomon: It really does, and so I ask for parents to look at this new book, sacred Scales, and determine if it's right, because it's rewriting the Bible number one and it's justifying that he will, unfortunately, sorry, unfortunately, sorry, unfortunately have opportunity, more so, to talk to your eight year old and nine year old on roadblocks, on Facebook, on whatever he wants, and that's just.
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David Solomon: There are no words.
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David Solomon: So it broke me when Brian said the things he did about me, and it broke me when I turned him in for trafficking me.
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David Solomon: And it broke me because I felt I did something wrong and I wanted that message to be very clear because, going forward, I'm not going to attack Brian now.
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David Solomon: I've moved on, my family's in a better place and we're doing our own thing on Mythical, but I can't just be silent and let another kid go through what I went through either, and that's not right.
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David Solomon: My question is how can someone that loves God so much hurt God's children so much hurt God's children?
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David Solomon: Man?
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David Solomon: I was 11 when I learned what masturbation was.
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David Solomon: I didn't think it was, you know.
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David Solomon: I thought he was just doing God's work because he had some cool books that touched kids and brought them close to God, and to think that he could message my nine-year-old and talk about that.
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David Solomon: And so this man continues with these horrible acts and he'll have the opportunity to do that more than before with this new series.
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David Solomon: I don't know what happened to him.
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David Solomon: When I met him, he was a man of God, but when I met him again in 2011, he was not.
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David Solomon: I don't know what changed, but I pray for him every day that God will change his heart, and that is the hardest thing that you can do for someone that has taken everything from you.
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David Solomon: You know, it's hard to accept that someone just wants to keep going and doesn't want to make it right.
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David Solomon: I've never cried on an interview because I hold my emotions.
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David Solomon: I hold them.
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David Solomon: It's true, I'm a private person.
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David Solomon: I'm very emotional.
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David Solomon: I'm a mom's son.
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David Solomon: I'm a mom's son, but this just breaks my heart.
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David Solomon: And to see this man after all these years, all the horrible things he said about me oh, I bawled my eyes out.
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David Solomon: But I'm just one person.
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David Solomon: Think of all the horrible things he'll say about you or your kids, and this is a person that your kids are going to talk to, you're not going to get to have the sex talk with him because he's going to beat you to it.
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David Solomon: How does that make you feel?
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David Solomon: You know, as kids we're so naive and he just takes advantage of that and rips it apart and police won't do a darn thing and pardon me, but why?
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David Solomon: You talk to kids about sex and you talk to them about cutting and you private message them behind parents' backs and then you backslide and say, well, I had parents permission to do that.
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David Solomon: No, you didn't.
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David Solomon: You said that 15 years ago.
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David Solomon: If you had permission, then why did you talk to me about what masturbation was?
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David Solomon: Cause I didn't know what that was until I talked to you.
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David Solomon: I was 11.
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David Solomon: You know, he taught me that if I looked at a girl, it was a sin because it's called lust.
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David Solomon: He taught me that you have to wait until God brings the woman into your life and you have to pray at church and you can't talk to other girls and you can't flirt and that's a sin, and that's a sin, and that's a sin.
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David Solomon: He taught me not to listen to my pastor, but to listen to him, because the Bible says go and sin no more.
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David Solomon: So follow him, because he's sinless and you can live a sinless life and you can be better than other people and live in prosperity and you can become a God.
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David Solomon: And I was stupid enough At one point when my mom called me out, I would wear this suit and tie and I would say, mom, I can't talk to you right now I'm talking to Brian and I'm being sinless and you're being sinful because you're cussing at me and I can't have any part in it.
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David Solomon: I'm holier than you.
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David Solomon: I listen to my mouth.
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David Solomon: Looking back at that now and that's why he's writing this series Is to push this theology.
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David Solomon: I'm not here to discriminate.
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David Solomon: I'm not here to tell you not to buy his books.
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David Solomon: I'm not even here to say he's a bad person, because no one listens to that.
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David Solomon: I'm here to say, man, if this kid excuse me, if this guy did this to me as a kid, my best friend and other people, what's to say?
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David Solomon: He's not going to do it now again With this new book that he's targeting nine-year-olds with and eight-year-olds, and that just breaks my heart.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and I think you know.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: To add on to that, it doesn't stop there For you, being a survivor of human trafficking, brian doesn't just stop there.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He reaches his tentacles into lives more.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Since you made it home, you made it out.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He reaches out to anyone and everyone.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He reaches out to banks, he reaches out to uh, lawyers, to doctors, to you name it to which you name it, to which we're stuck trying to do the basic things in life, because this individual can't just let it go like you are and I think that's another thing that parents and children need to think about, because if you get mixed up I mean means may look and seem like a normal person, we're here to say that that's not true.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so by you having this individual as a speaker at your homeschool conference, at your church, on your shows, on media appearances, you're just as guilty because you're bringing somebody that again we have warned over and over and over again.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And not only this individual reach out to doctors and people to make lives miserable, reaches out to, again, banks, does paperwork, changes social security numbers, so there's certain things you're not able to do, not able to open a bank account, not able to buy a house, and then he also reaches out to individuals that are close, to continue to reach those tentacles into survivors' lives by offering money $3 million, $2 million, $1 million, big money to individuals to basically out a survivor.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's not just smoke that we're talking about.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: These are real life, real things that happen in that mindset and in that position where you need to go to the doctor, their family member needs to go to doctor, needs to be seen, you go, you have a visit and then you get a text shortly after it says, oh sorry, we can't continue having you as a patient.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Here's a number where you know, here's a, here's a, here's a number where you can find a different provider on there and then you go to that provider and then you get the same treatment and it's like, oh sorry, and and so that's that's the hard part is being a survivor.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we've we've talked many times, david and I and others, about there's resources.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: People say, well, there's resources for survivors, there's resources.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Really, where are they at?
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And they say, oh, reach out to law enforcement.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, we know, law enforcement, just like any profession, there's good people and there's bad people.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: To go back to the beginning we talked about, there's people that are good and there's people that are not good.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: People to make good decisions, people to make bad decisions, and we all make bad decisions, but our good decisions outweigh the bad.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And for individuals like this to have those tentacles then reach into law enforcement, that, when things are reported, again, the banks, the attorneys, the medical, family members, everybody in that circle is being reached out to and offered money and who knows what else to and offered money and who knows what else.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's the other thing to think about.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, parents and families and, again, a homeschool convention, any convention that thinks about, you know, having this individual even just come to the conference, let alone having them as a speaker, a keynote speaker, allowing this individual to sell their merchandise, their books.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There is one God who is sinless, and so for anybody on earth David me, anybody to say that we're sinless and you need to follow me and follow us, that is just hogwash and we knowless and you need to follow me and follow us.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That is just hogwash and we know it and you know it.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so let's wake up people, let's wake up.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's support not only ourselves and love on ourselves, but let's love on our family, our children, let's be involved in their lives, who they're talking to, and you know, hear that saying you know, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so if somebody's reaching out to your child, uh, personal messages, uh, again a grown, a grown man, 60 plus years old, is reaching out to your eight-year-old, nine, nine-year-old, which, as David mentioned, that's what this, this new book coming out June 3rd that we're uh warning you about.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, you know you need to think about it.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know we can only do so much, but as a society we've slipped so much and good people not stepping up to the plate, good law enforcement, president Trump, we know that you're doing a great job Cash Patel at the FBI, dan Bongino, deputy director of the FBI, pam Bondi, kristi Noem, tom Holman we know you're doing a great job, you're doing a lot of things, but, please, we've talked about this and we're going to continue to talk about it because it's so important and it's literally a life and death decision, right?
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So if somebody reaches out to your doctor and you're no longer able to see them, and let's say there's a reason you need to see them, and if you know if there's certain medication or protocol that's not followed, then that could have deadly consequences.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then, if you talk about, you know, an unborn child, you know, adding that to the equation, if somebody out there is in that situation, and so we're passionate about that's why we're talking about this, that's why we talk about it so much, so much of 2025.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is a hot topic.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, we talk about, you know you hear, you know the big terms.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know the Diddy trial and Epstein and all this.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, there's big terms.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know the Diddy trial and Epstein and all this.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, there's.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There should be the, the Brian Allen Davis trials and the same thing, where survivors should feel welcome to come and share their story and not to be judged.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we're we're running out of time, david, so I'm just going to wrap up what we were discussing for the end.
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Founder Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's all good.
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