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David Seymour: Regulation Minister on the review into the hospitality sector · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Back home, hospo regulation reviews. This is David Seymour's lot.
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  Speaker 1: Paying too much in fees are our hospo businesses. Licensing
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  Speaker 1: decisions taking too long. Some don't even make sense. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: what happens is individual agencies don't appreciate what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: is running counter to what another government.
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  Speaker 2: Department is doing.
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  Speaker 1: No decisions made yet on this review. David Seymour, Minister
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  Speaker 1: for Regulation with us. David, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, so one of the things that's come up, do
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  Speaker 1: we need a minister for alcohol or regulating responsible for
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  Speaker 1: alcohol and potentially another new agency?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the recommendation that has been put up
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  Speaker 2: by the ministry, um, Not really one that I would
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  Speaker 2: go with. My view is that these things can be
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  Speaker 2: achieved by getting the people we have, or ideally less
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  Speaker 2: ministers and departments, to do their job. But I think
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  Speaker 2: what they've identified is that there is a problem in
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  Speaker 2: that too many people don't know what the left hand,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know what the right hand is doing. When it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the point of view of a cafe or
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  Speaker 2: a restaurant or a food truck or a farmer's market storeholder,
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  Speaker 2: often they'll find that they've got to deal with, in
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  Speaker 2: some cases, half a dozen different agencies telling them contradictory.
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  Speaker 1: So that's... I think people understand that. And I think
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  Speaker 1: the substance of that is right. But just from an
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  Speaker 1: optics point of view, David, you've got this Ministry of
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  Speaker 1: Regulation set up to get rid of regulations recommending a
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  Speaker 1: new minister and a new agency. You talk about the
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  Speaker 1: left hand and the right hand. How many hands do
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  Speaker 1: we need?
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  Speaker 2: We end up with an octopus. I think from the
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  Speaker 2: point of view of the Ministry for Regulation, I know
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  Speaker 2: there's people who say, oh, how can you have a
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  Speaker 2: bureaucracy to stop bureaucracy? But And time and again, what
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  Speaker 2: they've proven is that when you have some embattled business
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  Speaker 2: or what we call a regulated party with multiple government
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  Speaker 2: departments regulating them, first of all, they don't know where
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  Speaker 2: to start. And second of all, even if they did.
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  Speaker 2: they're very unlikely to complain because if you're regulated, you
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  Speaker 2: rely on having an easy life and a good relationship
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  Speaker 2: with your regulator. You don't really want to tell them,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, we think you're crap because that means
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  Speaker 2: they might start picking on you. So if you look
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  Speaker 2: at everything from Early childhood education, we've totally flipped over
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  Speaker 2: the way that they're regulated thanks to the MFR going
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  Speaker 2: and talking to literally thousands of people in that sector.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're doing hospitality. In the past, we've done telecommunications
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  Speaker 2: and even just the importation of veterinary medicines and agricultural products.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the power of the Ministry for Regulation. A,
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  Speaker 2: you can talk to them, and B, they're not actually
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  Speaker 2: a regulator themselves, but they can tell the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the government what to do. And this will, without taking
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  Speaker 2: that particular recommendation, this is going to make life a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a lot easier for people just trying to
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  Speaker 2: make a buck in the hospital industry. All right.
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  Speaker 1: David Seymour, ACT Party leader, Deputy PM and Minister for Regulation.
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