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Las Vegas Football Contests, Sportsbook Robbery & a CRAZY Parlay · WiseKracks

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Bill Krachenberger, John Orlando over here at the
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  Speaker 1: new home of Wisecracks Circa sportsbook, the Mecca. John, this
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  Speaker 1: is crazy made it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is amazing right in the.
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  Speaker 1: Middle of the book. Lots of action going on today
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  Speaker 1: and you can see what's going on here. The reason
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  Speaker 1: why the buzz that these people are all signing up proxies.
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  Speaker 1: The proxies are signing up people for the Circa Millions
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  Speaker 1: Circus Survivor, and that's a big thing here. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring on my buddy Scott, who's got a great proxy service.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring him on for later on in the show.
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  Speaker 1: But just looking right now at the board, and this
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  Speaker 1: was like one of the main concerns was how this
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  Speaker 1: contest and these contests are doing as far as the
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  Speaker 1: sign ups, because of course, year after year, Derek has
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  Speaker 1: been Derek Stevens that has been guaranteeing more and more
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  Speaker 1: money every year. So they guaranteed fifteen million for their
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  Speaker 1: Circus Survivor this year, I think it was ten. Scott
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  Speaker 1: was a ten last year, a twelve last year. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think they guaranteed tenth up to of course,
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  Speaker 1: they got like so money. They guaranteed fifteen million this year,
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  Speaker 1: and then another company, online company, came out and like
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  Speaker 1: challenged them and guaranteed a million more. But it's an
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  Speaker 1: online company. They take seven and a half percent out
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  Speaker 1: of the pool. I'm all about value. There's no rake
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  Speaker 1: in this and it costs a lot of money to
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  Speaker 1: put these things on. No rake in these pools. But
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  Speaker 1: there's arguments back and forth where people say, well, if
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  Speaker 1: I could do something over the internet, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do it in every state. It's illegal in Nevada.
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  Speaker 1: This other contest, So there's some states that I have it,
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  Speaker 1: some states don't. And I've never dealt with that company.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny the founder of the company reached out
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  Speaker 1: to me on Twitter and actually wanted to talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't yet, but this is our home, this is
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  Speaker 1: our loyalty rest here. So anyway, they unbelievably, I just
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  Speaker 1: found out they're ahead of pace for last year. Now
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  Speaker 1: that means a lot because there was a concern with
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  Speaker 1: this other company coming in and on a national scale,
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  Speaker 1: maybe people wouldn't come out the survivor here. People just
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  Speaker 1: use Las Vegas as like an excuse to come to Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta come to Vegas. I gotta Hey, sorry, honey,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go to Vegas. I gotta sign up for
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  Speaker 1: my contest. Please don't let her find out about this
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  Speaker 1: online contest, you know. Anyway, I thought it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of funny though, But John, World Series is over.
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  Speaker 1: World Series is over, but you're still you're still playing
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  Speaker 1: in events.
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  Speaker 2: The circuits here.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, I played in a circuit event the other day,
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  Speaker 3: and then there's still really good tournaments over at like
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  Speaker 3: Win and Venetian Mitases. But there's a big senior tournament
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  Speaker 3: at Venetian right now. There's three different day ones. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I played in it yesterday, but no.
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  Speaker 1: Good going back to the Survivor contest. Just I thought
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  Speaker 1: about it. So I talked to Derek Stevens yesterday. He
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  Speaker 1: was gonna come on next week, but he's it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the following week. So we're gonna have Derek on
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the contest, where it's at, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with the with Circo, with the whole company, the
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  Speaker 1: other casinos. He'll be on on the fifth, so that'll
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  Speaker 1: be out August sixth or seventh, So that'll be out.
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  Speaker 3: But I haven't been in here in a while. I
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  Speaker 3: forget how great this sports book is. To look at
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  Speaker 3: this book, it is massive. There's screens everywhere, like they
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  Speaker 3: really did a great job.
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  Speaker 1: This is not only that. So you have these boots
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  Speaker 1: here and chairs and now you have the chairs up
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  Speaker 1: and down the sides for for people. These are during
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  Speaker 1: football season. You're you're renting these. I know that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're buying them per day like all the casinos do.
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  Speaker 1: But there is the free seats on the sides too.
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  Speaker 1: But upstairs there's a bar overlooking the sports book, and
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  Speaker 1: I got overhang. Then there's a bar here. Back here,
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  Speaker 1: there's a video poker bar here, and there look great
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  Speaker 1: seats for football.
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  Speaker 2: And that that Burger place is legit.
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  Speaker 1: VE never forgot.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's good. It's good.
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  Speaker 1: Now I like Barry's here. I think we've eaten so good.
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  Speaker 1: Barry's is one of the best steakhouses in town. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, their rip cap is the steak. I get.
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  Speaker 1: It's called their rip cap steak. I get that every
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  Speaker 1: time there. I think it's great. Their sides are great,
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  Speaker 1: and we should have.
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  Speaker 2: With cheese steak, a Philly cheese steak.
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  Speaker 1: Rolls good, but I would that Yeah, you're right, just
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  Speaker 1: for that.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, it's ten minutes from the strip, Like,
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  Speaker 3: don't let people tell oh downtown, it literally is ten
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  Speaker 3: minutes from the strip.
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  Speaker 1: Downtown is old school too. You want some old school
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  Speaker 1: deals and pricing, and uh, I should have come on
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  Speaker 1: more prepared with this. They had a deal here for
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  Speaker 1: a hotel room here, they had hotel, the pool, everything.
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  Speaker 1: It was like all inclusive, all inclusive deal that you
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  Speaker 1: it's so it was so cheap, it's like ridiculous. It
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  Speaker 1: was like like one hundred and twenty five dollars a
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  Speaker 1: night or something that came with everything your pool or
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  Speaker 1: your resort fees. But downtown in general, if free shows outside,
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  Speaker 1: you know the stages outside, security is actually much better.
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  Speaker 1: I think when Derek came to town the last decade.
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  Speaker 1: Security is beefed up out there. There's people, there's very
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  Speaker 1: regular Metro cops downtown for free minuts. Three Experience has
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  Speaker 1: their own security, so.
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  Speaker 3: You can't walk outside and not see plenty of metro cops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Metro here. And also there is another added layer
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  Speaker 1: of security here where they're asking for your ID when
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  Speaker 1: you come in. Yeah, I'm surprised you actually gave yours.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, okay, good. I'm just make sure I know
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  Speaker 1: it's something that you know you maybe you know you
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  Speaker 1: want no one to know where you're at. No. But however,
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  Speaker 1: this is just for an internal thing. They want to
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  Speaker 1: know who's in their building. So that's something they do.
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  Speaker 1: It's an added layer here. So I want to I
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  Speaker 1: want to start right out with something. John, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: a new book out. I heard the book was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Now I was betting twenty I've been betting since nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety three ninety four, so you're talking, you know, over
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  Speaker 1: thirty years. I was betting with some places called Rick
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  Speaker 1: Sportsbook ESB, which is English sports betting. These places all
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  Speaker 1: went out of business worldwide Telesports. Billy Scott is going
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  Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame this year. Gary
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  Speaker 1: Bowman over in England, I was dealing with Gary Bowman's.
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  Speaker 1: I was dealing with can Bet in Australia. This was
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  Speaker 1: years ago. So I used to do all that and
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  Speaker 1: these guys have all either closed up, taken their money
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  Speaker 1: went other places, or screwed people. Let me just be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. So there was one giant sports book
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  Speaker 1: called World Sports Exchange. There was three owners. I actually
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  Speaker 1: knew all three World Sports WSCX dot com. They were
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  Speaker 1: way ahead of their time. They were way ahead of
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  Speaker 1: their time. They were the let's Calshie and polymarkets way before.
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  Speaker 1: Oh like I said that with them about twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years ago. They were They had markets, and those exact
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  Speaker 1: kind of markets that are out now. Jay had the vision.
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  Speaker 1: They had the vision. There's an article on Gaming Insider
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  Speaker 1: dot com which I'm going to send a JHR producer
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  Speaker 1: to put up a clip of. J Cohen wrote it industry,
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  Speaker 1: the industry that drove me out of my business, took
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  Speaker 1: my ideas. WSX founder J Cohen, a Q and A.
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  Speaker 1: But also what Jay did. Jay has a book out.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Odd Odds Man Out. It is the Rise
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  Speaker 1: and Fall of It. It's well, let me read let
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  Speaker 1: me it's the rise of Fall WSX. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: the untold story of how professional sports crushed the pioneers
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  Speaker 1: of online sports betting. Now they may have been the
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  Speaker 1: pioneers Jay. They I had dinner with Jay here nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, maybe it was like
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  Speaker 1: twenty something, and the Palm matter. I have had to
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  Speaker 1: Palm sports Book, I'm sorry, Not the Palm Sports Book,
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  Speaker 1: the Palm Restaurant, which gets confused with the Palm Sports
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  Speaker 1: Book all the time. The Palm at the Forum Shops.
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  Speaker 1: That was like the place to go. It's right if
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  Speaker 1: you go outside Caesar's there into the Forum Shops off
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  Speaker 1: to the left. The Palm nowhere near as busy as
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  Speaker 1: it used to be when it was originally owned. Back then,
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  Speaker 1: the Palm was the place to go for all the bookmakers,
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  Speaker 1: the wise guys. Everyone went around that was that was
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  Speaker 1: the place to meet. Well, that's where Jay had. He
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  Speaker 1: had a big gathering of guys that were online on
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  Speaker 1: a chat for him talking. This was the twitters before
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  Speaker 1: there was Twitter out there, before the apps were out.
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  Speaker 1: So Jay hosted a meeting there and I was took
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  Speaker 1: part in that meeting of those guys and I got
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  Speaker 1: to know Jay. And now so they they the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I believe. I didn't read this book yet, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: told the book is great. Some people told me how
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  Speaker 1: good this book. Eve. I'm seeing a thing here and
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  Speaker 1: it says we thought we were doing everything right. It
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  Speaker 1: was Jay Hayden and Steve what happened was they were
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  Speaker 1: even on sixty minutes. Now, when they were on sixty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: I remember the next day I was told they signed
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  Speaker 1: up like twenty five thousand new accounts. Wow, sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Just understand, back then, sixty minutes was the ultimate news
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  Speaker 1: source king Back then, there was not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: news sources on back then unless you watch your Sunday
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  Speaker 1: or specific Sunday night. Every Sunday night, it was the
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  Speaker 1: number one rated show in America for decades. So I
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: know my grandfather every night had to turn in and
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: tune in and get and and see that. So unfortunately
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Steve wind up committing suicide. Now the reason why is,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to point it to point to
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  Speaker 1: it here somewhere. They folded up so all this good
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  Speaker 1: stuff I'm talking about Jay and World Sports Exchange. In
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  Speaker 1: the end, they didn't pay people. So but life has
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  Speaker 1: a way and time as a way of forgiving p well,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: as we said when we had Jeff, they do on
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: all these all these in these mafia channels. They're all
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  Speaker 1: hosted by guys that were rats, but they're now talking
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  Speaker 1: and getting great comments. And you know, with with the
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  Speaker 1: really no one even really goes after them for anything.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we're in a place now where they
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: have cameras everywhere, every street corner and stuff. And wise
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  Speaker 1: guys make money, the real wise guys. They make money
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  Speaker 1: almost legitimate ways having buying real estate, flipping things, and
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: you know they it's it's a total it's a total
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  Speaker 1: different mafia than it was when John Gotti ran the
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: Gambino crime family. And he may have taken it down too.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny for all the people that say
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: John Gotti by being so flamboyant and stuff, I'm going
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: into a different avenue here. Even though I love the
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: movie Gotti with Armana Sante. That's the greatest, one of
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: the greatest mafia movies ever. It's free on YouTube, by
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: the way, Gotti with Armana Sante one of the greatest
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: Mapia arman Yeah, he was here recently too at the
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Sahara and did like a thirty year reunion.
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  Speaker 2: And he might have the best speaking voice.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: He does have a great voice. Ever, he was an
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  Speaker 1: American gangster too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, era.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's amazing how I watched the same movies Shan
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  Speaker 1: over and over again. Yeah, it's red. I said it
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  Speaker 1: on the show before I know. If I have, I'll
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: give your example rounders on the background. You know every
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: single word of every single line, so you can multitask
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  Speaker 1: and do other things. I have about twenty five movies
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: that I watch over and over again. I guess today
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I had cast Up Blanca on in the background as
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: I'm watching as I'm doing stuff. One of my favorite movies. Anyway,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: So this is an interesting book that Jay put out there.
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  Speaker 1: They opened up A nineteen ninety five and Antigua, and
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: they were also featured on HBO Real Sports here, Wall
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Street Journal sixty minutes. Like I said, they even took
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: major advertisements out on major publications. So this is an
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  Speaker 1: interesting story. And that's here on Game gam I'm getting
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: a plugger Gambling Insider dot com. But I know someone
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: that sent me that a review. He's like, this book
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  Speaker 1: is unbelievable. I'm one hundred pages in, so it just
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: talks about I believe now without reading it, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm not sure. I believe Madoff came in and
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Madeoff got them for some money, but I know like
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  Speaker 1: Madeoff also got money from like the Pinnacle owners, the
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Doc Middlin like, there's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: That a lot of fortune gave him some money.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: But to be fair, Irvin I think his name is
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  Speaker 1: Irvin Pickard, who was a trustee overseeing all of the
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  Speaker 1: people that were involved with the madoff. He recovered seven
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  Speaker 1: point two billion just off Jeffrey pick Hour in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Seven point two billion from one person that was the
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  Speaker 1: guy that profited the most from it. Supposedly didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about it, but he drowned in a swimming pool. Weird,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: weird happens. Yeah, seven point two billion recovered from him.
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  Speaker 1: Also billions recovered from other people. I'm told up to
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  Speaker 1: about seventy percent of the money was recovered. So you know,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm unless I'm wrong, maybe someone could tell me that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, someone that was involved with this and didn't
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  Speaker 1: get anything back, or maybe didn't follow the proper steps
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  Speaker 1: and channels to get things back. I'm told most people
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  Speaker 1: got back, you know, fifty percent. But still it's not
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  Speaker 1: that's still not fair. It's not fair. What made off
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  Speaker 1: did this animal? You know what I mean? Absolutely not
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  Speaker 1: fair at all. So that's one thing there. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to your now going back to your world series, now
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: you're still filming over there, your action jump.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing action.
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  Speaker 1: Judy.
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  Speaker 2: Still in the new merch store over at Wsop.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: The merch store is staying there full time. They closed
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  Speaker 1: the big one by the parish. That was a bigness.
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  Speaker 3: Everything closed. Everything's in the in the nice store. It's
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  Speaker 3: really a nice store. Okay, it's a great set up
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  Speaker 3: over there. So yeah, we're there every week.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear about this newly hired sportsbook employee over
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  Speaker 1: at virgin who robbed who robbed his own workplace at
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  Speaker 1: nine point for twenty eight thousand dollars? Come on, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm reading it here. The suspects plan unraveled
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  Speaker 1: quickly after he was filmed entering the casino restroom unmasked
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  Speaker 1: and emerging wearing a mask. So goes into the sportsbook,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: into the restroom, he wears a mask, takes the mask,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't wear a mask, comes out dressed like Superman with
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  Speaker 1: a mask. Amazing, So they'll never know. I'll never know
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  Speaker 1: what it is. So security detained the suspect the very
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  Speaker 1: next day when he audaciously showed up for work again.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Come on, there's obviously something wrong with this person though,
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  Speaker 1: But Yeah, like Las Vegas has seen its share of
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  Speaker 1: these legendary heist I was there Sagio a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: The guy wound up gett they woud up killing him
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  Speaker 1: outside the North entrance, right.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that. That's not too long ago.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's been so many of them though, the West
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  Speaker 1: skate rob the sports book, I mean in the end.
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  Speaker 3: But sometimes they do get away with it, right, Once
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: in a while. The guy in the motorcycle got away, right, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Used to his profile. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 2: Motorcycle.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe one person got away one, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't advise this.
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  Speaker 2: For any of the pig masks. They they got them.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: They wore pig masks jewelry store. I can't believe you
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  Speaker 1: know about it.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that. But that's the guy you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Actually they got shot, right, No.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: No, total different guys.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't catch the pig masks.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Pig Man got pig Man was arrested. Yeah, they came
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: with pig this. No one was injured here, but just
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: to walk in to one of these.
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  Speaker 3: You're not getting cameras everywhere, never mind inside the place.
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  Speaker 2: Every tesla is recording everything that goes on. Now did
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  Speaker 2: you know that?
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  Speaker 1: No, So what do you mean tesla? What do you
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: mean the car?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have a Tesla, there's cameras are three
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  Speaker 3: sixty three sixty degree cameras recording all the time, even
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: when the car is not on, a Tesla is recording
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  Speaker 3: what's going around on around it outside the car. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I promise, Wow, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Really, yes, you know I've seen one of these crazy
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: one of the self driving cars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, drove right into a fire smoke scene. So now
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: they recall they record. I recalled all the zooke zooke,
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  Speaker 1: they recall them all, really because evidently the smoke from
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the any kind of smoke, doesn't it clouds instead of
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the car just stopping. Yeah, I decided to drive right
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: into the like I literally ran like right into like
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a fire truck or so I'm not not a fire
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: walk right into a scene. So they recalled them and
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  Speaker 1: they're fixing them.
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  Speaker 2: Would situations you would think the.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Situations that come up that you wouldn't think of them. Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: so this is one of them. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not getting in U.
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  Speaker 1: I need control. Yeah. So so fifty years, about fifty
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  Speaker 1: years from now, uh, they'll be there it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: real tough. It would be tough for you to get
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: into one of those George jetson basically Sprockets machine. Right, yeah, yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: but you haven't even been in the knees. No, but
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: you you would do it though, when you like go
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: from virgin to like.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't yes on the strip, not on a freeway.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But well they're not allowed to go on the freeway.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Oh no, they're they're only doing I believe they're only
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: doing the back roads. They can only go a maximum
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of forty five miles an hour, so I believe they
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: they can't go on the freeway. But anyway, Yeah, that
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that arrest of that guy just crazy, blown away, blown
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: away by that. I can't believe that in that app.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Now let's move on to our wager Wire segment. This
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: is wager wire dot Com and over at wager Wire app.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So time to move back to baseball football. Now the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: World Cup's over. This week's ticket pretty crazy here, it's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: mainly over. To be honest with you, twenty bucks to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: win fifteen thousand, three seventy and I can go in
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to real fast. So this guy had one, two, three, four, five,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: six seven after Spain won the World Cup. He has
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: seven of the eight legs are in the last leg
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: is the National cy Young Jasob Miserowski to win the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: National League Cy Young eight Lake parlay twenty dollars to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: win fifteen thousand. Began with six money lines from actually UFC.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: He won them all and then he had Spain. Now
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he's down to this last leg. So the current bet
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: value because Misseraki's won, the favorite heres one of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: favorites here Miserowski is. It's worth ten thousand, nine to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: seventy nine. Now, I will tell you what does it pay.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: If it hits ten fifteen thousand, it's fifteen thousand and seventy.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So that's how much of a favorite. He's currently minus
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: two fifty to win now, so he's the big favorite
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to win. We're half ware past halfway. Yeah, unless he
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: got injured or something dramatic, but that kind of a number.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Like to me, you're a twenty dollars better.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the money and I never say that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I never say that, but you're a twenty dollars.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Young voting like, I don't know, man, sometimes sometimes they
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: go a little crazy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So originally a seven hundred and sixty eighth. The woman
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: this parlay was worth. Now it's minus two fifty. The
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: guy's minus two fifty favorite. So he's he's ninety five
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: percent of the way home. Barring an injury, He's gonna
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: get there, I would think. So. I will tell you though,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and when I see twenty bucks, dude, take I would agree.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I would agree you got to take the money or
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: take on a partner, maybe even save yourself as ten
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: percent sweat equity. But yeah, I would go there, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I would if you could sell that one. I would
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: sell that credible wadorwire dot com, the Wade your Wire app. Yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it's incredible to have and to get all those Let
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: me just let me just look at some of the legs.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: This guy, I know he had Spain to win the World.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Cup, a twenty dollars seven leg barlot.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Max Holloway to win winner Patty Pimblet, which I enjoyed
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: watching him win. He won Gable Stevenson minus twenty eighth
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to one Justin Gatchee, which was he was plus four
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: fifty five.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that's a big undergo one.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Wow yea, all right, shown om Maley's a big favorite
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Nicol guy. This guy, love it all favorites. Yeah, so
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I find that kind of interest. Huh So, John, I've
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: had I've been having this group talk about UFC for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Yeah, and you know I I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: there's a sharp group that that talks about it and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: tells me about some of the things. I gotta ask you, though,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I thought UFC was so hard to beat. I'm gonna say,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for the last five years, are you still dabbling in UFC?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Sure, do you?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Do you still the Are you still doing some picture
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and stuff?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Pretty good? Yeah, I'm pretty good, Bill.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, put me up against your people, really yeah, put
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: me up against your people, all right, John.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: World, seriously UFCA. That's what I was trying to I
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was gonna.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, if I'm forty five percent
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: across all sports with underdogs, is that impressive or no?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You'd have to track your actual you have to track
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: your actual plays play by play, because if you're telling
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: me forty five percent, that's a big loser. That's it's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: hard to go forty Just underdogs, all right, But I'm
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: saying if you were just in general, but now you're
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: saying underdogs. So if you're underdogs a plus a dollar,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: ten dollars, twenty dollars, fifty dollars, No, then you're not
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be a loser still. But if they're plus two
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to one or greater, it depends over the sample size.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Too, Okay, so that I'm gonna pull have to see
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: if they can pull those numbers because I want I've
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: been meaning to ask you, like, hey, is this worth
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: bragging about or no? Because some of them plus plus
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: six hundred, like UFC fights and stuff.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean when I say some maybe.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a bunch. But yeah, this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is a this is an interesting interesting thing here. So
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this was a Vegas myth article that Corey Levitan wrote,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: uh that he writes them every week, these these kind
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of articles, And it was the casino carpets. Are they
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: designed to trick you? Perfect idea. Look at this carpet.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So this carpet's funky, it's got It's not just a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: regular plane Jane carpet. You know, it has design like
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that like design. Ugly carpets are the results of extensioning
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: extensive market research, claims A website that tacky carpets with
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: weird lines and curvy patterns actually keep awake and focused
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: on what they're what you're doing. So I think that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting that it keeps now. This is only
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a website. Now this is to me. I just think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it makes it look pretty cool. And you know, just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: not like people that say they pump oxygen in. It's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: been proven they actually don't pump oxygen. It's just air
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: conditioning that it's not pumped oxygen in. So it it's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: most people. Some people that are in the know disagree,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: though the myth is observed, says Scott Rubin, who was
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: vital Vegas. He says, that's never occurred to any Canseno
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: manager operating this person or owner I've ever spoken to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to make an ugly carpet so that people will stay
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: awake or be do a sorry and look up instead
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of down. So it's interesting though. I always noticed, like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the Rio's got some funky carp but even here it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I love funky carpeting. But it's just a myth. Probably
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: never walk in the wind. I was just winds unbelievable.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Carpet is very nice on the ice. I would look
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: down there, not up. I would look down at the marble,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: those little tiles all over the place, so I would
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: kind of not I would kind of agree with with Scott.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: There is ESPN on this list.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: ESPN firing people.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's on your list, like what is going on?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: That happens every year though, but like some legends.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Some big man like Carl Rabbits think he's been there
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: thirty some years, thirty three years. Yeah. Yeah. ESPN not
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: my favorite network by the way. It kills your chances
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I've ever getting.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I don't care, like I am shocked.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: ESPN who put out a nice thing saying, oh, we're
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: sorry our Steam colleague Howie Schwab passed away. Give it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a break, ESPN. That's what I say. He fired the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: guy after twenty some years. He fired a colleague that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: gave his life for you guys, wasn't even getting a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: ton of money, but you guys fired him. Leving go.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Now you want to say you're sorry, Yeah, take it
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: on the hot. That's what I think of ESPN and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: some of the things on ESPN. Follow a couple of
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: those guys on ESPNIR with the games they give out,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you'll be in a homeless shelter faster than John with poker.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but it's not just ESPN. It's all
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of networks. You know, there's talking networks that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: talk sports, and they're all sports betting now because they
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: have these giant sponsors and they're committed to giving out
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: picks and ruining lives a lot of them. I know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'm being a little too tough, but when it comes
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to how he was one of my best friends, Howie
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Schwab was on this streak. I stayed in his house
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: every year, stated I was with him all the time,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and when he passed, it was very upsetting to me
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that these figazy people came out of the woodwork ESPN included.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: But and ESPN, you know, they the Friday Night Fights
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: went away. You know, I love Teddy Allis the Friday
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Night Fights. I love that programming and stuff. And they've
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they've lessened his position to hardly anything. Uh, Teddy, who
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: was a truth talker, He talks to truth. He's gonna,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you know, vote from the hid bike listen. I hate
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to say it, I just did you know, people say,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: oh my god, you can't talk about ESPN because goda
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: bet you're gonna be I don't care. I'm good I'm good.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I really don't so. But ESPN fired
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of people and a couple of people coming out.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think Stephen A, I think came out and he
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: was upset. And he's like the highest paid guy in
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the network. He was upset at some of the firings there.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: So I was shocked, John, how about this genius? This
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: guy wins one hundred and sixty seven million and power
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: ball in Kentucky. He's been arrested four times since then.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, it's only been a year April of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, he's been arrested four times already kicked
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the cop in the face. This is his latest.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Wait, come on, yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: His indictment his last one is high speed hit and run.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: This is the latest in four separate criminal cases since
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: he won one hundred and sixty seven million fifteen months ago.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know what to say.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: The wrong people have the money. I can tell you
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that because he has a he has a sheet, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: low under my arm. Before that, before this where Kentucky,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the wrong people win the money. His legal troubles including burglary,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: witness intimidations.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, yeah, blary since winning this.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: No, but it stretches back for decades. But he's been arrested,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that's the genius. He's been arrested four times since then.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: How is this possible?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I just we bring up that crazy news sometimes. I mean,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just enjoy the money. He's fifty one years old. You're
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: waiting for your ship to come in here it is
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the Queen Mary, and it comes oil out of trouble.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Wait did he kick the cop after winning the hundred?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yes? Great pleaded guilty earlier this year. It's a battery
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and resisting arrest violence charge from that incident. Sentenced to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: nine days in jail. Find a thousand dollars. Also in February,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that's when he was intimidating a participant in the legal
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: process over that. So he's been arrested four different times.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I just can't leave. I just can't believe someone. Listen.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That just goes to show your money's not everything. You know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you can't change who you are sometimes. But I just
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: think after winning this kind of money, wouldn't that be
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a great man?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Get on a cruise ship?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, buy an island? All right, John,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring on some guests. Okay, John, I want
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to bring on my buddies here, James and Steven. They
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: are the two executive producers from the Circus of Vibrant
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: documentary that I've been featured on. I've actually been on it,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I think every year, right, we seen it. This new
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: one that drops tonight on VSON on YouTube was the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Quest for eighteen point seven million. Guys, you want to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: introduce yourselves a little bit and explain what you did.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And you were one of the original founders of VSON.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Am I right, yes, back in the day, back in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: So yeah, thank you, Bill, and you have been a
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: great part of our show every season. This is the
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: third season that we've done this that we've done. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: docu series around the Circus Survivor Contest started out year.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: The first year we did it was the contest end
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: of nine point two million. We've seen it growing every year.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Season two is fourteen point two million, this year, Season
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: three eighteen point seven million, and we're gonna do a
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: season four. So we're gonna be shooting the twenty twenty
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: sixth season. Derek's already guaranteed twenty million, so it's gonna
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: be at least twenty million, right, we'll see where it
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: ends up. But yeah, we've been We've been following this
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: contest and the contestants and the whole journey through Circus
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Orvivor in detail, serious detail every year for the past
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: three seasons, and can we do it again for this
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: upcoming year?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Cool?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: James yourself too, how did you get involved in this? Like?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Were you guys? Were you win the sports betting scene
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: or the gambling scene or just the movie scene.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so the production arm of it, that's myself, David
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: matt Our business Stephen being with Vson, talked to Vson
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: folks said hey, we need a team to help us
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: put together a documentary.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Long story short.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: We got in touch and said, hey, let's partner up
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: on the show and create a show. We started filming
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: nine point two and we just kind of started filming
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: and saying what are we doing and what story are
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: we telling? And how's this going to go? And then
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: obviously it's a story, and the season evolved. We started
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: kind of figuring out who our main characters were and
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: how to tell the story. Nobody flipped the season two
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: fourteen point two million, and then some people started coming
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: up to us said hey, we saw the documentary last year,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: can we be on your show? And then the third
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: season eighteen point seven million people say, we've watched both seasons.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: We love it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: End us footage now in Florida, in Michigan, in Texas
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: of their weekly sweats.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Steven does a great job staying in.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Touch with those people.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: Obviously, Steven Touch stays in touch with you. As you mentioned,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: you've been on our show. I think every single season.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: You've obviously played Grand Dcma. Last year you played ten
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Survivor entries. Yeah, it's been quite a ride.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Now watch explain to people here because we're gonna put
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: this out probably as a short two which on Twitter,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: which you've got a lot of us. So people that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: don't know what the show is, explain to them exactly
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: what the show is, what market, what are you going after?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Who would just anyone that wants to come into get
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: involved in a huge contest like this, But it also
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: shows like trials and tribulations of what they've done throughout
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the year. Guys, am, I.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say something quick, and you said something quick.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: So Circus Survivor the Quest for eighteen point seven million
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: coming out tonight. What you're going to see on that
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: is pulling back the curtain behind the scenes, real reality television.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: People putting in their weekly pick, sweating out games, win, lose, tie,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: whatever it is. We're filming all of it, and then
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: we put a story together at the end of the season.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nice speak.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: So it's amazing because there's last year is eighteen over
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: eighteen thousand people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Who signed up.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: This year it's gonna be over twenty thousand people. So
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: we can obviously talk to every about it, but we
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: try and talk to as many people as we can,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: get as many different characters as we can, and you
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: follow them as they play this contest.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Now you've played the contest.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: You know how Like it's so simple on one hand,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: but it's also so complicated. It's amazing that every year
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: we only end up with a handful of people. Eighteen
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: thousand people started last year, five made it all the
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: way through, and that's it. It always boils down to that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: So we love to tell the story. We follow people
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: on their path through their journey. As we said before,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: they send us footage even if they can't be here
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: for us to film them in person. They send US footage.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: It's remarkable. The sad part is virtually all of them
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: end up losing at some point along the way. So
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: we get to meet more people as we film through
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: week to week, and we kind of follow the path
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: as we go through the entire season, and it's just
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: this great, incredible journey and we meet the great characters,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: we have great stories.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: It's fun.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: You guys start tonight on YouTube. Tonight's the first episode
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is does a new episode drop every every Wednesday?
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Every Wednesdays, so there's eight episodes this season. Everyone'sday one
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: will drop leading right up to NFL kickoff with John
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: you had a question.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: That was wondering, are you able to capture the different
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: people's process to how they arrive at their picks, because
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some people that are super analytical and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: they crunch all these different stats, and then there's probably
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: people to just go Greendale beat Denver.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Or I or I like the Green team, so I'm
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: picking them.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Masan does some people some people.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Some people say we spend hours every week diving into it,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: the analytics, the weather, who's in the injury report, all that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Other people just say oh, it's an hour before I
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: like that game?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Another great factor of this is that it's mostly guys
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: coming into playing, right, it's kind of a male dominated industry.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: But then when they bring.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Their their their girlfriend, their wife, whoever with them, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: they watch their husband or their boyfriend who play and they.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: See what, you only lasted two weeks.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: And they do so, then we get a lot of
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: women play because they say, what, I only have to
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: pick one team, no spread, no numbers involved. It's very simple,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: it's very basic. I can do this as well. So
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: we get a lot of women who participate because it's
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: anybody can, right, And and you know, it then becomes
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: a competition who's gonna last longer, who's gonna go further,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: who's gonna go deeper into the contest.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It seems like it should be so easy, right to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: pick a game, one game a.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Week, no spread, it just wins.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: It seems like it should be so easy to win,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: but it's so hard.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fascinating. Every year it changes, it varies from
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: year to year, but every year, on average, after three weeks,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: seventy five percent of the contest is eliminated. That's if
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: you were to say to somebody, can you pick three
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: winners in the first three weeks of the football season.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Just pick a winner. Everybody say, of course I can
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: use that. Of course I can't. The people and these.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Are pretty relegiic, you know, pretty people who know football
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: can't make it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Through the first three weeks.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's because of any given Sunday.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: You've said that a couple times on our show, because
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: that's what happens that Sunday.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Well, guys on YouTube, you got the show for free
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: every week. It drops like Thursdays on YouTube every Wednesday.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: So Natalie is on YouTube, but it's on nesson, It's
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: on MSG, It's on Game Plus in Canada. There's some
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: other partners coming on, so there's a.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys were on nesson MSG in
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: New York.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: So a lot of new eyes are gonna be on
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: it this year. But it is on YouTube's super easy
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: to find right on.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Visa's YouTube page.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Circus Sports is putting out all kinds of teasers and clips,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: so just go to Circus Sports and social media direct
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: your right to it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: So super excited.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: And if you if you're if your audience comes to
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: play Survivor seek us out. We'll get in the documentary.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Whatever you even talk to Oh wow, don't tell John
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that because he'll enter. John just wants to be on TV.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: He just wants to have someone recognize him. He lives
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: for that. I'm a big ball bums pressure you could tell. Okay, guys,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I want to bring my buddy Scott on here, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I want to explain what happens and what a proxy is.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: People dm me, text me, put me on socials to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: reach out. They want to know all the time. You know, hey,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I want to get in this contest. I'm coming out
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to Vegas. I want to know about a proxy. So
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I have known Scott for a long time and I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: personally was away last year and I had Scott put
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: put in twenty picks for me, and he is so detailed.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta bring you on a show,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like every show, every ticket. John was like, I would
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: tell him, all right, I want the Kantasity Chiefs. He goes, Okay,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: pick number one Kansas City Chiefs. Submit and I was like, hey,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I already told you that. He goes, No, we do
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that on every entry. So Scott explain to people and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: first of allt's talk about your site. So your site
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: is called Vegas Horsepools dot com, Vegas horse Pools p ols.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Correct, what'd you get?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: What's horse? Where'd you get the horse thing?
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Well, when I first signed up for Twitter, I had
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: no intentions of ever posting, so I had to come
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: up with the name. I got no name. So I
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: decided to take three words and smash them together. Because
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: the odds are nobody else is probably going to pick
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: the three random words that I do. So I thought,
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: I live in Vegas. Let's make Vegas be the first word.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: Second word is I was really, really big.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Into horse racing at one time. I bet a lot
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: of money.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I like this guy Bill.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you the rest of the story.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe you won't.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: So the second word I put was horse And what
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: I specialized in horse racing was what's called negative pools. Yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: it's dead, it's gone. If you want to talk about
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: what we talk about it years ago, years ago, they
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: used to have pools where so much money was that
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: there was a favorite that that was gonna be in
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: the money most of the time.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And you get the minimum that horsephrase tracks pay was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: two dollars and ten cents ten cent proper for every
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: two dollars. You wouldn't be interested in it's not cambling,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be interested in the right.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but he's missing the good part.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: I had a formula that would tell me how much
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: to bet on every horse in the race, So I
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: really didn't care if the horse ran out or not,
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: because if he ran out, I made tons of money.
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: All I was trying to do is pick up the
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: comp's the comfort like two percent, so I could know
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: that I could just pick up comp after comp.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: It was amazing. It was like money on the street.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You had to pick it up.
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: So that's where I got the three words and smash
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: them together. Vegas horse pulls.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, all right, excellent. Now your proxy service people
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: can reach out to you. I'm seeing they they could
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: reach out to you here, and you're also going to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: be here at the Oh, let's go, let's go with
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the price. Wait a minute, so if you want to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get in survive, it's one hundred dollars perentry circle millions,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars perentry. Now, because I don't use a proxy,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why millions because it's more time consuming.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: There's five entries and you're going to be in at
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: the entire season, but the survivor people are probably going
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: to die out somewhere about halfway point. Okay, remember last
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: year everybody died what we three? So yeah, and that
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: seems like a decent price. Okay, the reason the price,
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: I've actually lowered the price from last year. I had
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: a long discussion with Fats and Fats and I argued,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: which you probably won't believe that Fats would argue with somebody,
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: but yeah, well you fat, Yeah, yeah, great guy. And
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: he'll be in the Hall of Fame. He'll be indocted
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: this year in the Hall of Fame. I can't wait
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: to see that ceremony. But me and him argued about
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: that for hours, and he said, Scott, just lower your price,
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: make it an even hundred dollars and just let it
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: go with that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: And I thought about it. You know, And my wife
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: does a lot of the.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Sign up for me because during bet Bash, that's my
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: party week, right, that's Christmas, that's my Thanksgiving, that's my birthday.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: I'm having a blast. She does all the sign ups.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: It's a whole lot easier here in the sportsbook she'll
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: be in the sportsbook during the bet Bast.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You're in the sportsbook doing best with the hat on.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll have a hat on.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll have with the hat with the advertisement.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And she'll have and Jeff has her a seat over
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: here in the back.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, she'll be right there. Okay, good.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: But she'll also on Monday and Tuesday, she'll be down
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: at my uh my party. I have a party every
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: year for bet Bash that I started at bet Batch
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: number two, where everybody gets there. It's a networking event
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: and if anybody wants to sign up for the proxy,
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: my wife will walk them over across for the d
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: and sign them up. But it's a great networking event.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: I hope you'll come.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Let me. I told you I come there one day.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Now you have a couple of days right right now,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: let me ask you. This bet Bash that's like one
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of your big events too. You love that bash. It
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it's a big thing for you. You're always pumped up for.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Is bet Beast show out?
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: No, it's not sold out. He's got a handful of tickets.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And Spanky yesterday.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's the vip some VIPs sold out. He's got
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: a few general mission left.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Bete Batch is going on and there's still
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: could be you can still get tickets for that. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: you're at Vegas Horsepools. The website Vegas Horsepools dot com.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: It takes you to the next site there. And like
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I said, guys, the reason why I wanted to bring
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Scott on not only because he was my friend when
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he went over, I'm going to tell you for the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: first time ever, you're not gonna know that. You're not
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: gonna believe this. I had twenty picks to put in,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: and as I'm putting him in, what's the word you say? Submit?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: What's the last word you say? On the phone? How
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: do you do it?
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Tell people how you do I did it with you
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: on the phone, because I don't do it with people
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: on the phone.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: Nobody gets it on the phone. They do it on
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: the website. Let me tell you how the website works. Okay,
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: So you're what you'll get with me unless your bill
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: and you have a late minute edition, right, what you'll
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: do is you'll log onto the website. I have a
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: secure website. It keeps track of your picks. The reason
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: you wanted to track is in Survivor. You can't bet
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: Pittsburgh on week why, and you can't pit Pictsure on
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: week two.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: So when you go to log on my website and
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: you say I want to play Pittsburgh on week two,
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: he says.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: You can't do that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you that that is so important.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: It's a big it's a big problem that people have.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: But my website tries to take it from the customer's
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: point of view. The customer wants to make sure their
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: picks are in. They're playing to win. The people that
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: are playing with me want to win this contest. So
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: when they put their picks in and hit some min
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: my system looks at it, validates it, and immediately sends
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: them an email and said this is what you pick one, two, three, four,
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: So they have no fear that I got it. But
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: it goes one step further. Now, when I look at
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: their stuff and I intererim into the Circa actual app,
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: I tell the system. The system says, okay, this guy
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: needs to know, so it immediately sends you an email
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: and says Circa now has accepted your picks. But my
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: system goes further than that. You want to sign up
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: with millions with me perfect. You put in your five picks.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: After the games have been played, my system looks at
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: the pores, grades your entry and says you went four
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: and one this week or five and oh, and send
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: you another one.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: If you're in Survivor, it will send you a messeatine
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: and said.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You're kind of saying that there's no way to make
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a mistake.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: You could still make a mistake. But I've eliminated almost everything.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: I'm doing everything I can't well. I'm trying to put
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: the confidence in the customer that they know where their
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: entry is because they know I received it, because they
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: got the email. They know it went into CIRCA. Because
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: they got the email, they know what.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: They're grade was.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: They forget Do you alert them? Okay, there's another part this.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: You forget that, John I have. It's embarrassing. Three years ago,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I forgot to put my pics in. I forgot them
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: a piction week one.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I bet it's easier than saying I blew three.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Thousand bucks on something I want a certain part of
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the car. Because I would only go last minute to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: put the millions in, I forgot to put them in.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: You can't do that with my system. Here's why.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: My system About noon on Friday, it looks over my
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: clientele and says, look, we're.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Not getting very many entries in here. I wonder if
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: people for God.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: So what it does is it sends you a very
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: polite email. It says, crack man, remember it's Friday, I
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: need your picks.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah?
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Perfect? So now about it?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: They do? What time? Five are they doing?
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I have to have everything at seven pm on Friday night.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: So about five o'clock, the system goes back through and
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: sees who hasn't done what they're supposed to do. When
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: you sign up with me, You give me your email address,
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: you give me your Twitter name, you give me your
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: telephone number.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: So what he does at two hours to go, Wait a.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: Minute, crackman hasn't done anything with me. I just want
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: to nudge him. So two hours before, my system goes
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: out there and sends you an SMS. And then if
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: you decide to ignore that, at seven o'clock, you get
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: to talk to me because I call you person.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I call you Personcott, Thanks for coming on
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: phone calls? Do you have to make?
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Usually?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: On average, most people have one bad week a year interesting,
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: So I make a bunch of phone calls, but I
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: also don't want them losing three thousand dollars by not
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: putting their picking.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: So then if you want to talk to me, just
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: don't put your picks. In guarantee you get me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Out of there.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Guys Vegas Horsepools dot com Scott, what a great proxy
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to have.