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3 Guys Before The Game - Bearcats Bounced - Cougars Coming (Episode 526) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Welcome one and welcome all. I'll be the first to admit things are about
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  to get caddy. Here on the Three Guys Before the Game podcast, was
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  that caddy? You know how like people get caddy right? Get caddy with
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  the K isn't it k K A T T y Caddy? Well, here's
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  a deal. I don't know. Kirschbell is not here to look that up.
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  That would normally he'd be all over it right now, he'd be all
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  over it. Caddy K A T T. Actually, the the history of
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  that word came down from Sanskript. It was translated through Mediterranean sea. Actually,
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  what I mean is this Mountaineers bounced the bearcats of Cincinnata and here comes
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  some cougars on Saturday. Bearcats bounced Cougar's coming. That's the title of Three
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  much for being with us. Hope you're all doing well. So here we
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  go, West Virginia. Hold on, hold on before you start, in
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  order to save some texts. Now, I know people are listening live,
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  they've probably already texted. For those that aren't listening to this life, c
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  att y Caddy excuse me, c a t t y if you at Caddy,
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  your Malicia's or Sonati towards other people? Right, is that what you're
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  looking for? Yeah, well you went to the little hoppy junior over there.
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  Yeah yeah, so kat t Why is that how I spelled it?
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  Yeah, that's not the right word. Correct, I don't know that it
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  is a word. Yes, not Yeah. If you go if you put
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  kat t y in definition, it goes gives you the definition for c a
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  t t y. Correct. That's how I got there. Well that's going
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  to help me. Thank you for confirming deliberately hurtful and one's remark spiteful.
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  Well we're not. I mean that's not my intent. That's probably improper use.
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  Of the word. The word was originally cattish. Is caddy was born
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  out of cattish. Really, yeah, and before that, it's simply just
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  meant pertaining to cats, which is also what kind of where you were headed.
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  So you got it, just have the spelling. I just wanted to
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  save some texts, so say your text on that particular subject. So if
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  I would have done a better job thinking about the title, I should have
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  said, the title is going to be cattish. That's it, just cattish.
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  That means cats are coming, pertaining to cats, two generations ago,
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  pertaining to cats. But here's the thing, the search algorithm probably wouldn't have
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  loved cattish. I don't know how many people are out there searching for cattish
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  when this episode might not be seen. If you had titled it cattish,
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  wouldn't have done wouldn't have done this any good, is what you're saying about,
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  all right? So basically all I was trying to say is West Virginia
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  played the bear cats. Now they've got Cougar's coming. It's a caddy c
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  a t t y. See, I see where you were going. Yeah,
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  tried. Meanwhile, how about them mountaineers that's a that's a big win.
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  Man, that's a that's a that's a big win. So I is
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  this hoppies obvious Yeah, segment right now, that's a big win. But
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  here's what I mean by that. So that's a top thirty five in the
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  Ken Palm rankings. I know Cincinnati's got a good net ranking. You know
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  how we always go by Ken Palm on this show. That's a top thirty
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  five win, number one, but number two even more than just that raw
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  number. And we went through it on Monday. I went through it on
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  sports on last night. This was a this was a very difficult matchup for
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  West Virginia in terms of what you needed to have happen against Cincinnata. Doesn't
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  They don't allow it to happen very often to give West Virginia the keys that
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  it needs to have happen to win games. So the just the matchup team
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  on team was not favorable for West Virginia to find a way to get a
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  win against that team. With that matchup, that's a that's a really nice
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  win right there. Totally agree. I'll by the way, I'll explain that
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  more detail coming right. The numbers. Yeah, a few observations. I'd
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  watched Cincinnati play several times already, but it was on television, and I
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  said this in our preview, like they were scary good. I know,
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  their record was three and four in the league. We talked about it in
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  our last episode that their four losses in conference play had been by five points
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  or less. One three, four and five. Yeah, one, three,
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  four and five, and now they got another one right last night.
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  It was four. That was the margin last night. So they made me.
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  They impressed me, and I loved their length. I loved their toughness
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  and their defense, and I thought this is not a good matchup for West
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  Virginia because West Virginia, you know, struggles on the glass has been re
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  routed by teams that play physical and by that I mean just taken off and
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  pushed around, and I think not a good matchup. The difference or the
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  potential that you had to win the game was why it was on the hardboards
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  of the WVU Coliseum. And we know in college basketball overall and specific to
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  the Big Twelve Conference, that home floor means a tremendous amount, and so
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  that was your hope. Then the great unknown to this matchup going in was
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  Jesse Edwards's second game, and then I said on the last show, I
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  don't know if it was going to take Jesse two games to get back into
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  a flow, if it was going to take him two weeks to get into
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  a flow. You just didn't know. That was the unknown from the opening
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  tip, and it may even be the first time he touched it. He
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  went straight at a z's Bendego, who's a big seven footer, legitimate seven
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  footer, like sometimes they say guys are seven feet tall, but you look
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  at him and you go like probably six' ten, Like you didn't need
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  to get a ruler, right, you did not get like you take a
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  look at his z's and you go seven, Yep, that's seven. He
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  went straight at him like you would think hey might go after a six to
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  nine center. No, he went straight at him a couple of times,
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  and I went like, huh. And Josh Eiler told me before the game
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  started, he said, we're starting Jesse, and basically to read through what
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  he said, he kind of said, like last couple of days in practice,
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  he went turned it. He's like, I'm back, let's go give
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  it to me. So that was the unknown. Was he back Oh right,
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  how's play on the floor? Yeah, was the best player on the
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  floor last night? How many times did we say while he was gone?
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  You just don't know what this group would have been or could be until they
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  all get out there. At the same time, I kept using the musical
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  analogy. You got a bunch of guys that play instruments. You haven't had
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  them all together yet to play a song. Well, now, song number
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  two for these guys sound pretty good. And he just makes all the difference
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  in the world, not only statistically, but the things that he does that
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  never will show up on a stat sheet correct. Just the mere presence of
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  him forcing defenses to play differently, to try to week Side has to come
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  over and help out changes everything. And so now quin Slazinski, guess what,
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  man, you get free Christmas presents? Because now everything's coming here out
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  to go A willing passer. He is kerk Carisa running around like a kid
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  that just got new sneakers, right, I mean should he's happier in heck,
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  because now I can do my thing. This is what I do.
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  This is what I do. I brought defenses toward me and I passed,
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  and he gets seven to sists all right, So those are just several things,
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  and I'll conclude my tony obvious comments toc Tony's obvious comments here. Can't
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  say enough about this team and its toughness mentally, last night, you're down
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  ten after having the lead, you go down ten with six thirty nine to
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  go, and Cincinnati's just making shots out of its posterior. Would have been
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  an easy time just say oh woe is us not our night? Do do
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  do do do? Kind of like that, Remember the price is right when
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  you'd been too high? Do do? Could have done that one? Kud
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  of could have done that one. Instead, they went like, let's go
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  a little bit here. Boom boom boom, you get the lead, you
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  make your free throws in the end, and you get yourself a win,
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  and you go like, okay, it's the great feeling of how hard it
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  is to win, to get a win. Now we have a BYU coming
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  in for the first time. They'll start shooting threes. Just you know that
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  that really ugly red tarmac around the coliseum. Yes, when you go in
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  replacing that still there, still there now it's got potholes in it. Anyway,
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  they'll start shooting threes like when they get off the bus right from the
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  red side. Try to hit it in the try to put it into the
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  basket just from the parking lot. Just try to they'll try to throw them
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  up. So different challenge. But your home six o'clock game, kind of
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  neat, not too early, not too late. Should be a good crowd.
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  Interesting numbers? Here? Mature numbers. Talk about mature. That's about
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  as mature as it's ever been. When it's nice, it all over,
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  by the way, guess which one is that? I think it's at the
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  sight that one is Episode eight Hunter dot Com. What brand is that?
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  Just like a nice brand. It's clean, nice, bright white. Yeah,
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  yeah, you can winter white. I'm gonna say you can wear that
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  Let's stay on Jesse Edwards for a second, and I'll just add one
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  thing to what you said there before I get into some of his numbers.
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  There was also so you're one hundred percent right on what he does offensively changes
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  how that looks and how they run and how they're able to function on the
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  offensive end, But how about the defensive end as well? And I thought
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  there was a play late that exemplified this where Cincinnati got the ball on the
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  wing, took it right at Kerkkriesa who got beat off the dribble, which
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  all season if that happens, if the guards get beat, for the most
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  part, it's turned into what got a problem? A lay up in points
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  in the paint. Instead, Jesse slides over swats the ball. So very
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  simple basketball play, but I thought that was monumentally impactful for what he does
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  on that back end. A couple things gives those guards or those perimeter defenders
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  a little bit of help. They know they can be a little more aggressive
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  because if they get beat, they've got somebody back there that's either going to
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  flat block the shot or at least make the offensive player think about going all
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  the way in. So I thought that was pretty evident as well. So
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  he finishes with twenty five and ten, nine of nine from the field in
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  the second half. Yeah, it's nine of nine in the second half.
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  Pretty good against that wasn't against a lineup that had a six to five center.
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  As you mentioned, Man Diego was a big. They had a couple
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  others. They had some odd against six to eleven. They had Jamil Reynolds,
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  Jim Marylan Renolds didn't have a good didn't have a good first trip into
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  the coliseum. That technical file didn't do him any good. It was a
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  dumb technical Yeah, and that for those who missed it, and I missed
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  it initially, you saw what he did. Yeah, go ahead, and
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  I'll give you some context to it. So he backs down pat Sumnik and
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  scores over him down in the low block. And then when he comes back
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  down the other end of the floor, he looks at the West Virginia bench
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  and Edwards is resting, sitting, and he says, come on out here,
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  come on out here, get a little bit of this. Well.
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  Official Jebediah Hartness goes by. Jeb he saw it, rang him up with
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  the technical two points, Thank you very much. It's also a bit of
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  a Lifetime Achievement award. Well, in earlier possession, he all the young
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  man also had a block came kind of over on top of the West Virginia
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  player that was down lookedown game, a smile and a little taunt that was
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  not called I saw it. So that was a second Someone saw that and
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  it came back. That's why the second one came really quickly. If you
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  notice, thank you so lifetime Achievement ward. Okay, off topic, stunner.
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  I tell you all the time, and this is rhetorical because you already
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  know this, but I tell our fans all the time what Brad just said
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  there. They saw that he taunted him earlier in the game, didn't give
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  gave him the benefit of the doubt. The next time you get even close
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  to something off course, they're gonna get you. That's why it's better to
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  just don't do it, because you're a marked man. Just a matter of
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  time, you're a mark gonna get you. It's kind of like the old
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  Midas commercial or whatever was it, Midas You can pay us now, you
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  can pay us later. It's the same thing. Was it was that Midas
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  Now it wasn't MIAs some kind of a car part. You can pay us
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  now, or you can pay us. I think it was an oil filter.
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  Anyway, I'll get it. They got him. They got him.
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  And that goes back to the Mountaineer football game against Oklahoma when you had the
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  block out of bounds to the Mountaineer bench. That's started. That started pregame,
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  that started in pregame when there was a there was a fluff up at
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  midfield with pushing and shoving and punching. They got the number of the Mountaineer,
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  then marked it. They just waited and it came at the most inopportune
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  time and they banged him. Still haven't seen that cold since. Don't disgree
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  I have. I have seen that play on multiple highlights, people calling it
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  out of a great job of blocking. The blocking. Yeah. By the
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  way, you and I different on some of that taunting. I kind of
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  like it. I like it when it happens in a game. Would you
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  have had a problem if they called the t when he looked down on him
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  after the block, Yeah, you would have had a problem with it.
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  Yeah, because he didn't totally stand over him. He kind of just smiled.
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  Some of that. That's sports man. There's got to be a little
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  give and take. What I would have liked, what I would have preferred
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  when he looked over at the bench and gave Jesse Edwards like there's a there's
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  a a meme out there with the rock and his wrestling day standing in the
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  middle of the ring doing that. And when he did that, I would
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  have liked Jesse Edwards just to immediately pop up off the bench and sub himself
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  in. So was that right? You want to let well because I'm coming
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  back in. I'm about to go nine for nine on you. Yeah,
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  you want to wave at me again because I just went for twenty five and
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  ten. Well. It was surprising is that after the tea they kept him
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  out there for like one more possession in West Virginia. I think a Creasa
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  might have been creas of banged a shot over. By the way, that
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  was fram Oil Filters. You can pay me now or paymulator. Fram Oil
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  Filters. Don't need thirty eight texts. Thank you. I got it,
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  fram Oil Filters. And by the way, a couple episodes ago, Yeah,
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  Rush was the name of the band Getty Lee. I get it.
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  I said, super Tramp kill me. All right, fine, it's seventy
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  two texts thirteen inquiries from Rolling Stone Magazine. I get it. It's rush.
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  It was rush, all right, go ahead, stay on, Jesse
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  Edwards. You said you thought Kerk Crieste was probably happy to see him back.
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  I'd say, I think the pick and roll works. That's what the
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  whole reason they put the pieces together. That was the second most points from
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  the pick and roll man all season, behind only Kansas, which they were
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  elite there when Pat was so so good on the finishing part. Here's the
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  other. Here's the other one that jumps out to you. I talked on
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  Monday Show last night on sports Line that one of the areas that concerned me
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  the most was on the offensive glass against Cincinnati. So, first of all,
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  not only are they good on the offensive glass, that was a concern,
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  but West Virginia getting points off of its offensive rebounds seemed unlikely. There's
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  only been three teams all season that have had an above average offensive rebounding rate
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  against Cincinnati, and all three of them are in the top eighty nationally in
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  offensive rebounding rate. West Virginia came into this game like in the two thirty
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  six range. So you thought, all right, you're probably not going to
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  get any offensive rebounds in points off of that, so that's why you've got
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  to make shots, and you got to get to the free throw line,
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  which I'll get to both of those. In the second West Virginia did get
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  crushed on the offensive glass eighteen to nine, got doubled up. So that
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  win exactly as you expected it to go. But here's what's interesting. WVU
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  wins the second chance points cat and had the second most points this season on
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  putbacks. How about that. Yes, so you didn't have the raw volume,
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  but you were super efficient when you did get him and finish, and
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  a lot of that was attributable to Jesse Edwards, so that was massive.
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  So you lose a category, but really got to win in essence out of
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  that. So that's part. How do you pull an upset? Things like
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  that happen, right, Those anomalies happen. Here's the other part. That
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  was the most points at the rim for West Virginia since the Ohio State game
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  back on December thirtieth, and the most points off dunks all season. Jesse
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  being back helps. All right, you want to get into some mature numbers.
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  I thought this was fun last night Hunter and I were going back and
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  forth at the game about this keeping track. All right, let's dive in.
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  Last night on sports Line, I dove into some keys, and the
• 22:49
  way I looked at it was this what happens generally when Cincinnati loses a game,
• 22:56
  and what things happened when West Virginia wins games this season? Right,
• 23:00
  and that should identify some markers, statistical markers that you need to get to
• 23:03
  if you're going to win the game with me. Yeah, let's start on
• 23:07
  the Cincinnatu side. Number one, they have lower points off of turnovers in
• 23:12
  their losses than in their wins. They have lower points off of turn viewer,
• 23:17
  they lose that category. Yeah, fewer points off turnovers in their losses.
• 23:21
  Last night they only had twelve, and they lost the category twenty two
• 23:25
  to twelve minus ten. Check feeling pretty good. Yeah, when they lose,
• 23:30
  they don't get as many points in the paint as they normally do,
• 23:33
  and they struggle from three, just twenty four percent from three in their losses.
• 23:38
  All right, let's check that Cincinnati got forty six percent of its points
• 23:42
  in the paint, really close to their average, but fewer than they've averaged
• 23:47
  over the last five games, so that was down a little bit. But
• 23:48
  you couple that with part two, the miss threes almost dead on. Cincinnati
• 23:53
  made just twenty eight percent of its three point attempts, almost right on the
• 23:56
  number that it usually makes when it loses game games. So two for two
• 24:00
  in the Cincinnati category. That kept you alive. You're seeing those numbers come
• 24:04
  about and you're like, Okay, you got a shot here. They couldn't
• 24:07
  buy a three right early on. All right, you've got a shot.
• 24:10
  Now flip to the other side. When West Virginia wins, there's a few
• 24:14
  things that happen across the board. What's number one. We've been talking about
• 24:18
  this for years, soros free throw attempt rate. It needs to be at
• 24:21
  forty three percent or more for a West Virginia win this season. Can you
• 24:25
  define free throw attempt rate for a yes. Basically your free throws taken divided
• 24:30
  by your field goals attempted. Okay, so it's not a raw number of
• 24:33
  more free throws made, it's just the number of free throws taken versus your
• 24:38
  field goal attempts. The greater that percentage, the better. West Virginia has
• 24:42
  been forty three percent or more as your marker. I was a little concerned
• 24:48
  early West Virginia didn't take its first free throw until six point fifty one to
• 24:52
  go in the first half. The number yesterday fifty five percent. It kept
• 24:57
  steadily rising. It got all the way to fifty five with some of those
• 25:00
  late free throws, but with like three minutes to go, it crossed the
• 25:04
  threshold. That game was close down the stretch. I tapped Hunter. I
• 25:08
  said, you're at the forty three percent rate. Take a look here.
• 25:11
  So you're kind of like like a rain man during these games. And you're
• 25:15
  sitting next to Hunter up top there, and like the you're kind of like
• 25:19
  one of that that was that that doctor that could see into the future.
• 25:23
  That's kind of how you are. Like you got those glasses on during a
• 25:26
  game. You were those No, I did not have those on, but
• 25:27
  like you're just saying to him, like, here's what's going to happen next.
• 25:30
  You just watching the numbers, kind of like a rain man. He
• 25:33
  probably struggled to get some of his writing done because I kept tapping him,
• 25:36
  cause there throughout the game, you kept looking at Okay, they're only at
• 25:38
  twenty four percent free throw rate. A right, they're at twenty seven,
• 25:41
  Greg, this is climbing there at thirty seven. All right, boom.
• 25:44
  They just hit forty three percent on their free throw rate. Take a look,
• 25:45
  and the game was tied at that point when it crossed that threshold.
• 25:48
  Here's the other one we were keeping track of this. This was two for
• 25:52
  two or is this three for three? That's three for three? All right.
• 25:56
  West Virginia needs to pass the ball well when it wins game. Its
• 26:00
  assist rate is right at around sixty percent or greater. Last night, West
• 26:06
  Virginia fifteen assists on twenty four made field goals comes out to sixty three percent.
• 26:11
  Oh, check, so that was good. Make shots game last night.
• 26:17
  We said coming in and I just told you partly why you hope you
• 26:19
  could get some free throws. You didn't think you'd get the points off offensive
• 26:23
  rebound, so you better make some shots. West Virginia shot forty five percent
• 26:27
  from three. Didn't take a ton of them, but super effective when they
• 26:32
  did. You shoot forty five percent, you'll take that. West Virginia's effective
• 26:36
  field goal percentage is about ten percent higher in wins, So effective field goal
• 26:41
  percentage is different than just straight effective field goal percentage takes into account the extra
• 26:45
  point you get on three pointers, so you get a bonus for those last
• 26:49
  so it's ten percent higher and wins. Last night it was fifty two percent,
• 26:56
  seven percent higher than what it has been in the losses. Up against
• 27:00
  that number, you needed one final note. We got really tricky last night
• 27:07
  on sports Line said if you really want to watch a zone right, we
• 27:11
  tried to go back to the zone. We identified one at Oklahoma State,
• 27:12
  but then also said a floor area. A floor area is a shooting zone
• 27:17
  that West Virginia could have success from against Oklahoma State. We identified it,
• 27:21
  but wes We also said West Virginia doesn't get to that spot very often,
• 27:23
  so it may not come to fruition. Last night there were there were a
• 27:26
  couple that were big. It was the right and left wings for three pointers.
• 27:32
  Kresa had been absolutely scorching from both. Slazinski had been very good.
• 27:37
  And then we said, all right, if Westerning's gonna win, Rayquon Battle
• 27:40
  has to have a bounce back, He's got at least getting in double figures
• 27:41
  and look for him to make a three as well. Three of West Virginia's
• 27:45
  five made three pointers came from one of those two zones, so sixty percent
• 27:51
  and the big one, Ray Kwan's three with under a minute to play that
• 27:53
  gave West Virginia the sixty five to sixty three lead, came from that right
• 27:57
  wing three point zone. So Cincinnati had been given up those spots. West
• 28:02
  Virginia had been hitting from those spots. That matched up and worked again last
• 28:06
  night. So it was one of those you could watch the game if you
• 28:07
  were following the numbers and watching that game play out, you could see the
• 28:11
  numbers ticking in West Virginia's favor and you could see it coming right right there.
• 28:15
  They got a chance to win this game. Yeah, that's really good
• 28:17
  stuff. A couple of thoughts. So Cincinnati is not a good three point
• 28:22
  shooting team on the season. Where they what they were not good on the
• 28:26
  season. Yeah, off the top of your head, I had, I
• 28:29
  had my notes, But anyway, that's not what they do. But last
• 28:33
  night, regardless of that, forty eight percent of their attempts came from behind
• 28:37
  the three point line. That's not what they needed to do. So they
• 28:41
  took forty eight percent. On the other side, West Virginia at times this
• 28:45
  season has been relegated to chucking up threes because they couldn't get anything inside without
• 28:51
  Jesse Edwards around right. UCF game, Houston game, come to mind.
• 28:55
  You sit back there and chuck. Last night, only twenty one percent of
• 28:59
  West virginia As shot attempts were from three. They were extremely judicious. As
• 29:03
  you said, they only took eleven the whole game. They made five.
• 29:07
  They went twenty four to fifty one overall forty seven percent total shooting forty six
• 29:12
  percent from three. The game could have been over even earlier had West Virginia
• 29:19
  made free throws at its seasonal rate. They ended the game at fifty seven
• 29:23
  percent from the free throw line. They're about a seventy two ish free throw
• 29:27
  percent shooting team if they made those the things over with. Now, let's
• 29:30
  talk about this hold on. Let me put some numbers to what you just
• 29:33
  asked, And that's part of why we said going into the game on Monday,
• 29:37
  the key was you have to be able to limit their paint points and
• 29:41
  force them to shoot from outside. If they make threes on you, you
• 29:44
  tip your cap. They can't kill you inside where they get about fifty percent
• 29:48
  of their points from inside the paint. Well, last night, would you
• 29:51
  say their three point attempt rate was forty eight percent, So Westerny did that.
• 29:53
  It's shut the lane off on him, forced them to shoot from the
• 29:56
  outside. They're regular on the season three three point attempt rate is thirty five
• 30:02
  percent, so they took more threes than normal. Because why West Virginia did
• 30:06
  a better job inside the paint of closing that down. Yeah, and to
• 30:10
  that point, Wes Miller, their head coach, talked about that just a
• 30:12
  teeny little bit in his postgame comments, crediting West Virginia's ability to force them
• 30:18
  out into the perimeter. So my question from an ex's and ose perspective,
• 30:22
  and I want to talk to Josh today, I'm gonna ask him, Okay,
• 30:25
  what were you doing that kept them away from getting into the lane.
• 30:29
  They were doing something maybe gapping or something that just didn't let it go,
• 30:33
  or maybe the way that they were playing screens just kept pushing them out.
• 30:37
  If you watch how he did screens, I thought Westerney did a great job
• 30:40
  of hopping out and hedging, but having the rotational defender jump in to cut
• 30:44
  that other spot off. And again that's not all on Jesse Edwards, but
• 30:47
  he's he's just a massive difference in there. That's a seven foot dude with
• 30:51
  a long wingspan. You don't think it's harder to operate in the lane when
• 30:55
  you got that kind of guy. So that was a big part of it.
• 30:59
  Okay, let's get in to the elephant in the room. Did you
• 31:03
  know that we had an elephant in the room? Did not? Yeah?
• 31:07
  Yeah, we do have an elephant in the room. Okay, So here's
• 31:10
  the Deloski the last two games, what did we talk about? Why did
• 31:15
  West Virginia lose to UCF in Oklahoma State because free throw disparity? West Virginia,
• 31:26
  wait, go back, UCF. Oklahoma State made more free throws in
• 31:32
  those two games than West Virginia attempted. And we sit here and we throw
• 31:37
  our hands out and we scream and say we're getting screwed. Officials are killing
• 31:41
  us. Da da da da da dah. Okay, but I say it
• 31:45
  just it bounces, It goes back and forth both ways. What happened last
• 31:48
  night? West Virginia didn't just make more free throws than Cincinnati attempted. They
• 31:55
  made twice as many free throws as Cincinnati attempted. Massive differential. Cincinnati took
• 32:01
  eight free throws, made six eight in forty minutes. West Virginia took twenty
• 32:08
  eight and made sixteen. There you go. It's always a stat that you
• 32:15
  can take a look at and you just don't know when that bug is going
• 32:20
  to bite you. But last night it bit Cincinnati. We had one.
• 32:23
  On a national side, the disparity in free throw attempts between Purdue and northwes
• 32:29
  Western was gargantuan, right, one of forty eight for perdue to like eight,
• 32:37
  Yeah, something like that. Just an unbelievable number, So not ideal
• 32:44
  if you're on the wrong side and you jump up and down and you're happy
• 32:46
  if it happens for you, and you just don't know. Well, and
• 32:51
  again I'll say it at the risk of repeating myself, if you've listened to
• 32:54
  this show for any amount of time, this isn't the first year we've talked
• 32:57
  about this. We've talked about Western India ability to get to the line in
• 33:00
  terms of that free throw rate metrics for years. It's been one of the
• 33:05
  ways that West Virginia has won its games, and that and that makes sense
• 33:08
  if you figure out why at times West Virginia, when it's had its really
• 33:12
  good defensive teams, it's labored offensively, right, So how you score in
• 33:15
  points you're either making shots, you're putting offensive rebounds back in, or you're
• 33:20
  getting to the free throw line. Well, if you're not making shots and
• 33:22
  you're still winning games, it makes sense that you're getting it from where those
• 33:24
  other two areas. So West Virginia has been doing this for a while.
• 33:30
  Yeah, so that's that's really good. Though, do you need to take
• 33:32
  a do you need to take like a rest break or are you ready to
• 33:35
  go right into Uh, you're ready to do the thing right for BYU,
• 33:37
  let's go. Really, you don't even need to break Nope. Spreads down
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• 33:52
  We pointed this out on Monday, So this will be kind of fun
• 33:54
  if you if you're a basketball nut and you like to look down in the
• 33:58
  weeds and stuff. This is a really drastic stylistic change here. You just
• 34:01
  went from what do we just say the key was against Cincinnati keeping them out
• 34:05
  of the paint where they get nearly fifty percent of their points inside that paint,
• 34:08
  stay pack it in force them to shoot threes. Hope they miss some
• 34:12
  shots. You take advantage of your stuff. BYU's the opposite. They get
• 34:15
  about thirty nine percent of their points in the paint. Don't care, and
• 34:20
  we'll shoot it and then keep shooting it, and then they'll shoot some more.
• 34:23
  Their offense gets all the attention as well. It should eighth nationally right
• 34:28
  now in offensive efficiency. But how about their defense is twenty fourth, so
• 34:31
  they'll guard you too. There's a lot of games left in the season,
• 34:35
  I realize, But right now, if you take this BYU team with their
• 34:38
  metrics, they're in a select group of teams that should win the national title.
• 34:44
  Excuse me, twenty one out of twenty two, twenty two out of
• 34:49
  twenty three, somewhere in there. Of the last twenty one to twenty two
• 34:52
  years, teams that are in the top twenty five and both offense and defensive
• 34:55
  efficiency have been the winning team. The team that wins the national championship only
• 35:01
  once it hasn't held true top twenty five in both offense and defensive efficiency.
• 35:07
  BYU is that right now as we sit here today, they're there again.
• 35:09
  A lot of ball to play, sure, but that tells you what kind
• 35:12
  of team they've been playing, what kind of level they've been playing at so
• 35:15
  far. They take as many threes as anyone in the country. Number one
• 35:19
  nationally in three point attempt rate. But here's what's tricky about them. They're
• 35:23
  third nationally and two point field goal percentage. So not only do they shoot
• 35:29
  threes well, they also shoot the twos very well. And what happens when
• 35:31
  they miss, which is rare, they might go get that rebound. They're
• 35:36
  elite thirtieth nationally on the offensive glass, so you gotta watch out for that.
• 35:40
  How about this too, offensively effective at all three levels. Seventy five
• 35:45
  percent field goal percentage at the rim, fifty four percent from the mid range,
• 35:51
  left elbow, and forty one percent from the right wing three. That's
• 35:55
  pretty elite. Seventy five at the rim, fifty four from the elbow,
• 36:00
  shot, forty one from a right wing three. They shoot it from all
• 36:04
  over. They also pass it well. You know, it was one of
• 36:07
  those numbers we gave for West Virginia. When they win, it's a sixty
• 36:08
  percent assist rate or more BYU is going to pass it. That's what leads
• 36:13
  to a lot of their open shots. They're third nationally in assist ratio.
• 36:17
  Here's the one thing they don't do offensively. Don't get to the line three
• 36:23
  hundred and sixty first out of three hundred and sixty two teams. So they're
• 36:27
  not going to normally beat you at the line. They're not going to.
• 36:29
  Can you win that category? And by how much? Right? Critical?
• 36:32
  Critical for West Virginia to get the win at the free throw line three sixty
• 36:37
  one on three sixty two. You don't see that very often, do you.
• 36:40
  I'd see what an aberration it is from all those other stats that are
• 36:44
  so high. Jump shooting team, right, So they're not fouled very often
• 36:49
  because they're they're taking jump shots. They're pick and roll ball handlers exit excellent,
• 36:53
  So you're gonna have to defend that. You've got to watch out on
• 36:55
  cutters to the basket. That's where that passing comes in. Oklahoma State didn't
• 37:00
  do this normally, but they did against West Virginia and really eight the Mountaineers
• 37:04
  up with cutting to the basket BYU is fifteenth nationally and points per possession on
• 37:08
  those plays, So spread you out. You've got to be out on them
• 37:12
  to respect the shooters and they start cutting through the lane and delivering that ball.
• 37:15
  That's going to be something to keep an eye on. West Virginia can
• 37:17
  defend that they're going to have a shot. They shoot forty two percent from
• 37:22
  three when left on guarded. That's always an area of concern. Cincinnati took
• 37:25
  advantage of that last night, had twenty one points on unguarded catch and shoot
• 37:30
  jump shots. So watch out there. If you leave them open too often,
• 37:32
  you're going to get beat flip over defensively for a second same profile as
• 37:38
  last night in terms of Cincinnati. You might not win the raw numbers on
• 37:42
  the offensive glass, but can you have success when you get an offensive rebounding
• 37:45
  of putting it straight back up. They're fourteenth nationally in defensive rebounding, so
• 37:51
  it's going to be a challenge to get points there. They're very good against
• 37:53
  spot up jumpers. Baylor made a bunch of shots in a win over him,
• 37:58
  Texas Tech made a bunch of sh Outside of that, they haven't given
• 38:00
  up a lot. Here's what they do do, Tony ready, what do
• 38:05
  they do do? They leave you open unguarded forty five percent of the time
• 38:09
  on your jump shots in their four big twelve losses, teams made them pay
• 38:15
  all double digit points on open jump shots. Make shots. So that's a
• 38:20
  that's a metric. It's a make shots game. Again. You're gonna have
• 38:22
  to get them at the free throw line. You're gonna have to make your
• 38:24
  shots, especially when they leave you open. They've been very good so far
• 38:29
  defending the pick and roll. That's gonna be another area of concern. West
• 38:31
  Virginia's found success with that. Typically BYU has guarded that well. Now they
• 38:37
  have given up some points in transition and a few of their losses. Will
• 38:42
  West Virginia look to push it? Maybe you should have some success, all
• 38:46
  right? You want to try and get fancy and try and identify a range
• 38:50
  again. Yeah, I'd like to see if you hit two games. How
• 38:54
  about left baseline mid range short corner between the lane and the three point line,
• 39:01
  called that short corner. Okay, you ready. Teams are shooting thirty
• 39:05
  nine percent there against BYU. Decent number. It's only four percent of the
• 39:09
  shots against them those so teams don't get there very often. You know who
• 39:13
  happens to like that spot? M hm, Jesse Ray Kwan battle pull up
• 39:17
  baseline, those left pulls up from there elevates up. It's one of West
• 39:22
  Virginia's best spots at home by field goal percentage. Do you want to spreads
• 39:29
  on stats number, there's one left baseline best spots at home by field goal
• 39:34
  percentage. They're shooting forty two percent from that spot is West Virginia and BYU
• 39:38
  was giving up thirty nine from there. To watch that left mid range.
• 39:43
  Now you want to go further for sure, give you another one. Right
• 39:45
  corner threes have worked against BYU forty four percent. Right corner three. So
• 39:52
  I'd be in front of the West Virginia and shoot those. They don't shoot
• 39:54
  them just twenty two percent from that spot at home shoot percentage wise, and
• 40:00
  they don't shoot him very often. Now if they do, it's normally Seth
• 40:04
  Wilson. It is normally Seth Wilson. He had to put Seth in that
• 40:06
  corner. Let him gun up some of those from that near corner. It's
• 40:08
  a spot that's been opponents have shot it well against BYU in that spot.
• 40:15
  All right, there you go. Those are the intricacies of BYU. I'll
• 40:17
  just give you some base numbers. They're fifteen and five. Overall, they're
• 40:22
  three and four in the Big Twelve, So all but one of their losses
• 40:27
  have come in conference play. Really good at home eleven and two on the
• 40:31
  road, true road games, one in three neutral games. They're undefeated on
• 40:37
  the season three and zero, so you don't want to see him on a
• 40:39
  neutral court or play them in Switzerland. Their losses have been at Utah by
• 40:46
  four. That's a big rivalry. They lost at Cincinnati. Excuse me,
• 40:52
  no, they didn't. Cincinnati beat them in provo seventy one sixty Cincinnati in
• 41:00
  provo. They lost at Baylor by nine. They won at UCF by five.
• 41:09
  They beat the stuffing out of Iowa State in provo eighty seven seventy two.
• 41:16
  They lost by seven in Lubbock, graat McCaslin, first year coach of
• 41:22
  the Red Raiders, candidate for Coach of the Year. They lost at home
• 41:29
  to the Houstons seventy five sixty eight, and then last Saturday they beat Texas
• 41:36
  by a dozen, eighty four to seventy two. Keep this in mind,
• 41:40
  because there is no Big twelve sec challenge this year, each team in the
• 41:46
  league gets a week off. West Virginia's week off is next week. They
• 41:52
  play Saturday and then they don't play again until the following Saturday. Buyu's off
• 41:58
  week was this week. We haven't played since last Saturday, so these will
• 42:02
  be rested, well fed, and hungry cougars that come into the coliseum on
• 42:08
  Saturday. Could also be rusty cougars coming in into a gym they've not played
• 42:14
  in. Could be. And interestingly enough, teams are shooting just thirty three
• 42:19
  percent from three against West Virginia in the coliseum. Excuse me, Teams are
• 42:25
  shooting thirty three percent from three against West Virginia in the coliseum. Not very
• 42:30
  good. Just receiving some data reconnaissance from a source, reached out and asked
• 42:38
  how many tickets, how many people would be in the coliseum on Saturday,
• 42:44
  And as of right now, about twelve thousand tickets. Twelve thousand tickets are
• 42:50
  out. So this will be one of those Mountaineer This will be one of
• 42:52
  those Mountaineer Saturdays. Right. Mountaineer fans love basketball, agree, agree,
• 43:00
  and just it's a little bit of a trek weekdays, completely understand, hard
• 43:04
  to do. But on weekends, Mountain your fans, they'll come to the
• 43:07
  Colisse. They'll come to the Colisse, and it sounds like on Saturday,
• 43:10
  fueled by the victory over the Bearcats, you'll even get a little bit better,
• 43:15
  so you'll be in that double figure plus. This will be a good
• 43:20
  one. And these teams that shoot the three this much in this world there,
• 43:22
  remember there's a lot of variants here. So if they get hot,
• 43:27
  look out. But if they're missing shots, that changes their offense significantly.
• 43:31
  H On the flip side, West Virginia is really starting to heat up from
• 43:36
  three. In three of its last four games, West Virginia's made forty six
• 43:40
  percent of its threes. That's pretty good, near fifty percent from three.
• 43:45
  Given how much this team struggled for a good part of the year and making
• 43:49
  shots, they're really doing it lately. The one game in that stretch where
• 43:52
  they didn't hit nearly fifty percent, they made thirty nine percent, which you'd
• 43:54
  take all day long. Sure, so they're shooting it really well. There
• 44:00
  you go. I think I've I think I've exhausted my numbers. I mean,
• 44:01
  you talk about giving a good bang for the buck. To Conley CPA
• 44:06
  Group, they value every dollar of their business, customers and clients. You
• 44:09
  value every stat that you give you. You pump them up Conley CPA group.
• 44:15
  I have a thought, a suggestion, and I don't know we statistically
• 44:20
  based upon our demographics. I mean, no one's ever going to accuse us
• 44:23
  of being a young show, and we don't skew heavy in the teenage.
• 44:30
  Or there's some students that maybe get a hold of maybe their parents listen and
• 44:36
  they can tell Johnny and Jeffy. But here's a suggestion for WVU students in
• 44:42
  the student section on Saturday against BYU. Had a little situation there last Saturday
• 44:49
  up at Provo where those unruly students at BYU or a T shirt that spelled
• 44:55
  out horns down right had we're advised to take them off before the game.
• 45:02
  I think it would be a nice stroke by doublevu's students on Saturday to wear
• 45:07
  horns down T shirts in the DOUBLEVU student sections as a show of solidarity.
• 45:14
  You support you take a shot at Texas and it's almost a little bit of
• 45:20
  a I'm not going to say a taunt, but like, hey, by
• 45:23
  you you overreacted there by making your kids take the shirts off. I think
• 45:29
  you do. Go ahead, and what do you think of that? You're
• 45:30
  pretty good on instantly scoring my suggestions. I mean You chastised me when I
• 45:36
  suggested that we should have a beer. You chastise me when I said we
• 45:40
  should have an outdoor venue popcorn outdoor events. I think, well, I'll
• 45:47
  chastise you now because you're taking a lot of credit for things that weren't necessarily
• 45:51
  all your ideas. So I'll chastise you there. Here's what I would say
• 45:53
  to that. I, as I said last show, I still side with
• 45:57
  I blame Texas for that more than I do BYU. Right, mean,
• 46:00
  why use this fair now? They're very nice, they're great, p very
• 46:02
  nice people say, we're just trying to be nice. Yeah, I don't.
• 46:07
  Does the league give you an automatic technical if you go horns down T
• 46:10
  shirts like that? I don't think. No, they don't. No,
• 46:13
  huh. I think it'd be kind of cute. I think Texas make about
• 46:15
  three or four videos on you. Who cares? Does Rodney Terry fly up
• 46:20
  here and complain? Who cares? You got to go there? Anyway?
• 46:22
  Coming up here the next week next Saturday, might as well get your money's
• 46:25
  worth out of the wind your head against them. I think you might get
• 46:29
  on ESPN. I think like they start the highlight package. You know they
• 46:34
  got to get into the locator shot. When you start the highlights and they
• 46:36
  go like at WVU Coliseum on Saturday night, Mountaineer students show up. Why
• 46:40
  are they wearing those horns down shirts? If they're playing BYU? Well a
• 46:45
  week ago BYU students. They'll cut to the BYU footage. Then they'll show
• 46:49
  the w students and they're like, and then they go on they show the
• 46:52
  highlights of the Mountaineer game. I would prefer since you play them immediately next,
• 46:57
  I would prefer you didn't do it this time, right, But maybe
• 47:00
  you travel with some horns down T shirts in your bag, the equipment bag,
• 47:04
  official equipment bag, and if you beat them down there for the season
• 47:07
  sweep, you quick throw those on and you walk across that long horn in
• 47:09
  Moody Centers and I can't say the Moody Center, but I can say Moody
• 47:13
  So Moody Center, right, and you walk across the middle of the Moody
• 47:15
  Center floor and say thanks for having us while you're wearing a T shirt with
• 47:17
  a horns download though, yeah, probably I might suggest that as an alternative.
• 47:22
  Yeah, our buddy Joe Mock, he'd be the first to do They
• 47:25
  lives down there in tex He's the guy that's adopted Eric Stevenson Mocke that brings
• 47:30
  us the donuts that you never get. Yeah, okay, yeah, I
• 47:34
  like all of that. I like all of that. Very good. Well,
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  they haven't. I was just trying to look. We had talked going into
• 48:52
  that game that Edward's Battle and Crease had only played nine minutes together. Yeah,
• 48:58
  I was a surprise in twenty games. Looks like that's jumped up to
• 49:00
  twenty nine minutes now, so you got twenty minutes together last night there.
• 49:06
  And again plus minus has some holes in it, but let's just take it
• 49:07
  for easy to understand your plus minus. You're just net ranking point. We
• 49:13
  have a question you're coming up on textual healing about plus miser Gentleman said,
• 49:15
  Josh just randomly threw out that ray Quon was plus twenty, and he basically
• 49:21
  said, what the heck is this? What is it? Okay, we'll
• 49:22
  explain it to it really super simple. So all that means is when that
• 49:28
  particular individual was on the court during the game, his team's lead either increased
• 49:37
  by what number or decreased by what numbers. So, in other words,
• 49:40
  if you're plus twenty, that means when Rayquon Battle played on the court last
• 49:45
  night, West Virginia's lead went up twenty points while he was on the floor
• 49:52
  in his stints off and on, so he's plus twenty. You conversely,
• 49:57
  can take a look. Let me bring up that box real quick. You
• 50:00
  can take a look at some of the other numbers. They don't even put
• 50:05
  it on that box. But if someone's minus ten, that means while you
• 50:08
  were on the floor during the game, your team lost ten points. That's
• 50:13
  all it means. And so again it's a nice overview. Look, there's
• 50:17
  obviously some other factors that go into it that may not be directed to each
• 50:21
  individual player that gets credit for some of those pluses. But for the sake
• 50:24
  of this discussion, when those three are on the floor together on the season,
• 50:30
  West Virginia's plus twenty three points when they're off, Yeah, when none
• 50:35
  of the three play minus fifteen, that's a thirty eight point swing right there
• 50:39
  with those three, how about that, dude, And they've been off way
• 50:43
  more than they've been on, So that mix might be your best stat right
• 50:46
  there, you think so here's what the computer says, play Ray kwon KERR
• 50:52
  and Jesse Edwards. That's basically what it says. Yeah, plus twenty three
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  responses already from some people. Oh, by the way, maybe jumping ahead
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  here, I've been cocues of doing that as well. Football schedule is out
• 53:29
  for next season. Are you about to overpromise something. Well, this hasn't
• 53:36
  been discussed. I already know what you're gonna say. It has not been
• 53:39
  discussed. Based on the unbelievable outpoint of support for the food courts, two
• 53:46
  food courts that we did during the last football season. I'm feeling pretty good.
• 53:52
  I knew it. I knew it with the way the schedule lays out.
• 53:54
  I say, we go September and October all the home games. What
• 54:00
  do you say That schedule lays out pretty dog one nice? Now, I
• 54:05
  mean, you're truly unmanageable. I'm just saying because I agree. When the
• 54:09
  schedule came out, that was my first thought. Wrote a little note and
• 54:13
  said, got to get with our guy, make sure we can start moving
• 54:16
  on the process. See how that works. And now you've just announced it.
• 54:19
  I go so that it could even take place. I'll just go,
• 54:21
  three guys, food court open September and October. You got a home game,
• 54:25
  we got a food court. Well, we just wanted to listen to
• 54:28
  future episodes subject to change. We wanted to dip our toe into to see
• 54:31
  if it would work well. And you know, one of the things that's
• 54:36
  not been brought up about the schedule. It's actually that is an over promise,
• 54:39
  but it's not one of your guy, I thought you were gonna say,
• 54:42
  like we were gonna open the Penn State game food court, like on
• 54:44
  the Wednesday of that week. Oh, things ain't question. We will.
• 54:47
  Oh that's definitely more than a Friday Saturday. That's gonna be a midweek.
• 54:52
  We're opening that thing midweek. I do think we should talk about that.
• 54:54
  Yeah, but West Virginia, as you all know, in October. Yeah,
• 55:00
  there's two in October at home. Really pristine opportunity to have one of
• 55:07
  those autumnal odyssees of colorful foliage. Just it'll be it'll be idyllic and three
• 55:16
  guys. We'll be there with the three guys food court. You're way too
• 55:20
  early announcing that, But I don't disagree with your premise. So what is
• 55:23
  it February? I mean, it's only seven months ahead of the game.
• 55:29
  I just want people to plan early. Here we go. Well, maybe
• 55:32
  the folks that issue the permits are listening, and that'll give us a jump
• 55:36
  on that. We're not going to them twelve hours before. Give them a
• 55:38
  little lead time this time. Yeah, it may have been a little tight.
• 55:42
  Last year, we were tight. They were awfully nice to work.
• 55:44
  They got it done. Yeah, very good. Everybody got done. Yeah,
• 55:45
  it was very no team effort yep, just like the team good team
• 55:47
  effort. So anyway, if you're listening from the city, multiple agencies that
• 55:53
  listen, we're yeah, consider this our verbal request. We will follow up
• 55:59
  and ride m hm. Here we go from the text line substantive question here,
• 56:07
  which I know is a little outside of the comfort zone for all of
• 56:10
  you. There's a heater right out of the gate. Pure bring it,
• 56:15
  big boy, with the understanding and belief that Josh Eiler has done a great
• 56:22
  job in keeping this team together, piecing together a competitive team which I do
• 56:25
  think will surprise down the stretch. What is the timing the process that Ren
• 56:30
  Baker will employ in your estimation with respect to hiring or announcing a new coach.
• 56:35
  Again, I'd love to keep this entire staff in one capacity or another.
• 56:38
  Your good young coaches, bright futures. But I think the elephant in
• 56:42
  the room is a real one, and with recruiting it is a significant issue.
• 56:45
  A great job by you as always, which I do appreciate. More
• 56:47
  ree from welch ps Josh Eiler is a good man and a good coach.
• 56:53
  He inherited a job under circumstances which prevented success at every turn. Yeah,
• 57:01
  ditto what you said, Maurice. Thank you for listening. So one point
• 57:07
  to I'll like kind of answer this non chronologically. I'll go backward. Your
• 57:12
  point at the end was and with recruiting, it is a significant issue.
• 57:16
  I really don't think that that is what it used to be by any stretch
• 57:22
  of the imagination. It's totally not what it was. It's almost a onet
• 57:25
  eighty from what it was because of the portal and because of second time transfer
• 57:34
  eligibility. Look at it, man, like, it doesn't matter if you
• 57:37
  hire a coach in March April for that matter. May I mean West Virginia
• 57:45
  was picking off players in June? Right? Slazinsky Just off the top of
• 57:51
  my head, Slazninsky comes in late farakhn comes in late. O Free o
• 57:54
  Free comes in late So it no longer is what it was. Is.
• 58:00
  All you have to have now to be quite is cut to the chase.
• 58:04
  All you have to have now to put a roster together is money. As
• 58:08
  different as that sounds, as different as it used to be. Something I'd
• 58:14
  never say six years ago when we first started this thing, all you have
• 58:17
  to do is have enough money to go buy the players. Blatant, That's
• 58:22
  what it is. So don't get overly concerned on timing, because all you
• 58:27
  have to do is have the dollars. There's gonna be there's gonna be enough
• 58:29
  talented players in the portal to go get them. Right, things happen,
• 58:35
  players are available. In regard to the other aspect of it, you know
• 58:42
  again, I think that Ren has stated from the whole part he's going to
• 58:45
  make a continual evaluation, and he had to what he has to do in
• 58:49
  his opinion, and his job responsibility is to put whoever he thinks is the
• 58:57
  best person possible to bring West Virginia's bast Caball program forward and to be at
• 59:02
  the level that West Virginia wants to be. So whatever iteration that comes out
• 59:07
  to be, that's his job. So the timing isn't like it used to
• 59:13
  be, like, hey, we gotta hire, we gotta hire quick,
• 59:15
  because otherwise, you know, no, it's not like that. Really,
• 59:21
  you disagree agree, I agree with that, And obviously it won't happen until
• 59:24
  the season's over. That's when all the evaluations are in teams. You're done
• 59:28
  playing, then you'll sit and you'll do your evaluation. Uh, this gentleman
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  that Hamlish Marvin question Tony. In today's society, I'll be shocked if we
• 1:00:04
  have enough Little League, middle school, high school coaches and officials to continue.
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  Some sports coaches are resigning and it's not because of the kids. Sad.
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  Let's go Mountaineers, Texter. In response to the last name on the
• 1:00:17
  jersey discussion, who could forget he hate me in the XFL to see that
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  remember that one? I remember that this could get very ugly in college athletics
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  some by Gladden Scott depot. Now I think they'll stop it. They'll just
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  make a rule and says if it's not your last name, you're not putting
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  a name on there unless it's episode eight. Hunter dot Com Texter to answer
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  Hoppy's question, The pontoon boat is on the Savannah River in Augusta, Georgia.
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  There it is bred from last week's show. Yeah or Monday show.
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  Yeah. That may be a purchase at lou Wendell. Not sure if that's
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  an avalon. If it was a little closer, I'd be able to tell.
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  Texter. Oh, this was the question about ray quon plus twenty.
• 1:01:00
  We answered that, Texter. My two year little My two year old boy,
• 1:01:04
  his name is Nielan, is loving your mountaineer munch. My four year
• 1:01:08
  old Spencer is enjoying a certain book before bed. Take a look at the
• 1:01:14
  picture of Brad. They don't love it. They don't love it when it's
• 1:01:19
  time for ballgame on TV. But I'm working on them. Signed by David
• 1:01:22
  Geiser. So look at that got the mountaineer much And what book is that
• 1:01:25
  young little child over there reading? Well, that looks as though Hanah,
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  Son of a Gun, that's my kid's book. Where or where? Where
• 1:01:36
  can you be traveling West Virginia high and low, Texter Chawamichi, three guys
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  on YouTube in a tesla just call me high tech. Look at that there,
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  Dino in Morgantown. He's watching our show in a tesla on the YouTube's
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  Then he came back in and said, Hey, the last Kerchievel on the
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  face of the earth coffee of the morning. So he's got a Kercherville beer
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  and there's our coffee. Game day grind. Thank you. Texter Brian from
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  Williamstown. I loved the referee discussion and wanted to chime in it's last show.
• 1:02:15
  We talked about referees and a whole deal. Well, I agree with
• 1:02:20
  the brat one hundred percent. Growing up in PoCA, we never discussed calls.
• 1:02:23
  It was not in the DNA. We were taught here. You went
• 1:02:27
  up to your man. You own up to your mistakes. Poka basketball was
• 1:02:30
  and his two things man and man defense, tough, hard nosed defense,
• 1:02:34
  motion basketball. If your butt wasn't set in a flare screen or making a
• 1:02:37
  back cut, you're on the bench. If anyone even talked to an official,
• 1:02:42
  you were going to the bench. Never once do I remember ever hearing
• 1:02:45
  officiating as an excuse for a loss. We were taught to always look inward,
• 1:02:49
  what could I have done better? Another note, my stepdad, rest
• 1:02:53
  in Peace, was a former high school in d two ref in West Virginia
• 1:02:58
  and actually friends with Jeane Sterator, but I always remembered him treating the game
• 1:03:01
  like a referee should own up to my mistakes, but keep the coaches and
• 1:03:05
  players accountable as well. He'd be more than happy to talk to the players
• 1:03:08
  and coaches during the game. As long as you spoke to him like a
• 1:03:10
  gentleman versus screaming and yelling. You'd probably see the benefit down the road in
• 1:03:16
  that game, things like keeping an eye in that jersey tug or watching out
• 1:03:21
  for an illegal screen. He always tried to be accountable, and I think
• 1:03:22
  most refs are the same. Certainly, there are always bad apples, but
• 1:03:28
  I tend to give the benefit of the doubt. Don't let a bad call
• 1:03:30
  take away from the fact that you shot ten of eighteen at the foul line
• 1:03:36
  or gave up way too many turnovers. You are always in control as the
• 1:03:39
  players to making your game and your team better. Just my two cents.
• 1:03:44
  PS, have you seen those PFF ratings for Hudson, Clement and Jaheim two
• 1:03:49
  of the best freshmen of the nation. Tongue click yep, Texter, don't
• 1:03:58
  look at this text. Okay, don't look at it. So I think
• 1:04:02
  you'll find it memorable. Three guys like spreads at you. My referee career
• 1:04:11
  ended at a lower level of basketball. I was finishing high school in the
• 1:04:15
  two thousands early two thousands in Man County, completed the referee certification course,
• 1:04:21
  and was refereeing a local youth tournament. This particular game, there were two
• 1:04:27
  good, tall twin brothers playing every call. However, I could hear someone
• 1:04:31
  in the stands chastising, critiquing, and yelling like it was a big East
• 1:04:35
  game. I didn't want to turn and give that spectator likely apparent acknowledgment.
• 1:04:42
  I knew the game, knew the rules, figured it was because I was
• 1:04:45
  young. At halftime, I mentioned to our site director, there's some yahoo
• 1:04:48
  in the stands losing his mind. Something to keep an eye on, or
• 1:04:53
  maybe kick him out, which was not an uncommon practice. Second half goes
• 1:04:59
  by similar fashion. Twins team wins strong fashion, but this guy in the
• 1:05:02
  stands won't stop. Game's over. I catch up with our site director asking
• 1:05:06
  if he saw the guy or I thought he would try to calm him down.
• 1:05:11
  Our site director told me he wouldn't, and he didn't. I asked
• 1:05:15
  why. He answered the fan yelling at you was Tony Careedi. He can
• 1:05:18
  do what he wants. At this point I almost felt like a badge of
• 1:05:23
  honor like a Tim Higgins or a Teddy Valentine. But realized the politics to
• 1:05:27
  come up in this field while I'm doing it for spending gas money, maybe
• 1:05:30
  it was not worth it. So that's tremendous. All right, explain yourself.
• 1:05:35
  Thank you. Signed by Alan and Morgantown, Well a couple I want.
• 1:05:40
  This is the various various things. So I think over time, so
• 1:05:45
  he said the nineties, and so we're talking about twenty five plus years,
• 1:05:48
  nearly thirty years. I think Alan may have had some factual inaccuracies in this,
• 1:05:56
  but I will also stand up and say this was I a whack when
• 1:06:00
  my kids were young? To a point, yes I was. I got
• 1:06:03
  too involved in it because I'm involved at a high level. So when you
• 1:06:08
  went on the good it didn't matter if it was a big East game like
• 1:06:11
  I was like okay, locked in yeah, and expected the same accountability,
• 1:06:15
  which in hindsight now is stupid. As my kids got older and these are
• 1:06:20
  the twins, as they got older, like I did the one eighty on
• 1:06:25
  it and just completely pulled back and went like, yeah, doesn't matter,
• 1:06:30
  this is no bigger the fine whatever. I really think he is exaggerating on
• 1:06:35
  me berating him the entire game. Did I probably hit and there's no question
• 1:06:41
  at times I would yip. So isn't anything to be proud of on my
• 1:06:45
  part? Absolutely not. My wife suspended me from games. She would say,
• 1:06:51
  you're not going to the next three games. This is when Michael was
• 1:06:54
  playing, our oldest he's thirty three now, so but she gave me a
• 1:06:59
  three games spension because I like, okay, you're out, and so yeah,
• 1:07:02
  like it's a it's not a it's not a it's not something I look
• 1:07:08
  fondly on in the past, right, won't do it like my grandkids when
• 1:07:12
  they play, Like I'm just gonna sit in the stands like I'm like,
• 1:07:15
  whatever, good job, good job, whatever, don't care. But yeah,
• 1:07:21
  but I do think you're exaggerating a little bit because I couldn't sit in
• 1:07:28
  the stands and scream and yell the whole game because obviously people do know who
• 1:07:31
  I am, and that would that's not the way, That's not what I
• 1:07:33
  would do. But I tell you what I can zip. You have some
• 1:07:36
  pretty dog on good lines. I bet you had some good lines. So
• 1:07:41
  that's my explanation, you know, speaking of that as proud of myself the
• 1:07:45
  other day at a youth basketball game, why is that well, I was
• 1:07:50
  trying to be supportive of the officials instead of critical. Ball out about it
• 1:07:58
  was a close play defender O defender reached in, looked like they might have
• 1:08:01
  might have got it there and then it might have bounced off the offensive player
• 1:08:04
  out of bounds. And the official comes over, did a nice job.
• 1:08:08
  He until he was trying same thing, new the rules. He was liked
• 1:08:11
  how he was doing the game. It was happening right in front of us,
• 1:08:14
  and he kind of hesitated, but then gave it the white and then
• 1:08:18
  kind of looked over, thought I was referring for it. I said,
• 1:08:23
  yep, you got it right, it's white. Even though it went against
• 1:08:25
  our team. That was nice, very big moment of me there. Did
• 1:08:28
  you think there were some the officials out there? Did you think there's some
• 1:08:30
  bad calls last night on balls out of bounds on both baselines? Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  yeah, okay, I didn't know if it was just me, Yeah,
• 1:08:38
  missed a couple, uh Texter, three guys, The days are getting longer.
• 1:08:43
  As we're all well aware that means baseball right around the corner. I'm
• 1:08:45
  thinking the crew efforts a new seasonal promotion. Given that accounting season and baseball
• 1:08:51
  season come together, maybe we can start some World champions CPAs the sponsor of
• 1:08:57
  five dollars gift card to go Mart for every home run in double hit by
• 1:09:00
  the Mountaineers this spring. With JJ finishing off the season with a four four
• 1:09:03
  nine average, that's a lot of fly rid slim jimps. Yeah, we'd
• 1:09:08
  be open to that if someone wants to do a co promotion. Texter,
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  Oh going to food now, Tony. I call these a spaghetti foldovers.
• 1:09:19
  They're delicious. I take a piece of bread and put room temperature butter on
• 1:09:25
  every square inch of that bread. Then I take the spaghetti, put it
• 1:09:29
  on the bread, fold it in half. It's delicious. I will say,
• 1:09:33
  I don't eat it at the table like that, though, I usually
• 1:09:35
  make my foldovers with the leftover spaghetti when I'm looking for a snack later that
• 1:09:40
  night after dinner. Fellas, if you've never tried it, you gotta try
• 1:09:44
  it. Whoa and bread has helped me become not accusatory about what other people
• 1:09:49
  eat. So if you think that's good, I mean awesome, enjoy it
• 1:09:54
  to me, just and I would try'd bite into it and try it.
• 1:09:57
  To me, it just seems like, whoa, that's like a double of
• 1:10:00
  the starch you eat the bread with the pasta. I don't really need a
• 1:10:04
  ton of No, I really don't. I normally separate. Yeah, but
• 1:10:09
  I mean if people love it, awesome. Uh oh, here's another one
• 1:10:12
  the same topic, Mike and Meadowbrook. Three guys on the spaghetti sandwich subject.
• 1:10:17
  I like mine heavy on the meat sauce with a Heiner's Hamburger bun.
• 1:10:23
  The locals are welcome to the Abrasino's bread, but nothing more delicious or West
• 1:10:30
  Virginia than spaghetti on a Heiner's bun. I love the show going minus.
• 1:10:33
  I see what you see what he's doing there? Yeah, totally soft roll.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah, I'm in so that almost is like a that would be almost
• 1:10:42
  like yeah, and replacing a hot dog in the hot dog man would be
• 1:10:45
  the spaghetti. But that soft bund brings that sauce into the dough, into
• 1:10:50
  the Yeah, totally understand. Oh la trace muchachos Sean, I'm Raleigh here
• 1:11:00
  mean awhile documented in an earlier text. I think of things to comment on,
• 1:11:05
  then five seconds go by and I forget. Oh well, my first
• 1:11:09
  item of less importance, the pressure is a privilege quote should be accurately credited
• 1:11:15
  to Billy gen King. The second item is a bigger deal to me personally.
• 1:11:20
  So the Big Twelve the day before the football release schedule did their little
• 1:11:26
  graphic on the Twitter twist or whatever. Of course they go Central time only
• 1:11:30
  on that, so I went after him a little bit. There was some
• 1:11:33
  support for our premise that the world is round, but I also took a
• 1:11:39
  bit of beating from many, even some outside the Central time zone. Well,
• 1:11:45
  I took the high road, kept silent. But particularly infuriating was Texas
• 1:11:49
  fans chiming in that took restraint to not realize retaliate against their sorry horns down
• 1:11:56
  asses. Anyway, my two cents on the schedule as I licked my wounds
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  is Wow, that first half is gonna be challenging. Take care, see
• 1:12:04
  you all down the road somewhere. You know. In Shawn's defense, it's
• 1:12:08
  tough when you're having a discussion among Big Twelve members with the time zone thing,
• 1:12:12
  because the bulk of them are in the Central time zone, so of
• 1:12:15
  course they're gonna try and shout the Eastern time zone down. It just remains
• 1:12:18
  as true today as it was before. When you put it in central only
• 1:12:23
  that's a yak, and you've messed it up and you're not doing it right.
• 1:12:26
  Big twelve, they're gonna have a heck of a deal. I mean,
• 1:12:30
  you got these West Coast teams coming next year, better get it fixed.
• 1:12:35
  We've now moved from its fixed to it's incredibly inconsistent, which almost makes
• 1:12:40
  you more mad. They got the super weird thing they put on their releases
• 1:12:45
  now that says CT and they make you think like it's Central Time and they
• 1:12:48
  put CT and then they put in parentheses Campus time. Don't do that either
• 1:12:55
  when it's abbreviation for Central Time. Don't do that. Good taking something that's
• 1:13:01
  really not that hard and making it really hard, that's the bottom line.
• 1:13:03
  It's really not hard, thank you. Texter says I had a quick embarrassing
• 1:13:10
  story to tell after hearing about Hoppy's power nap. I've always done a lot
• 1:13:15
  of driving for my work, so I'm a big proponent of a fifteen to
• 1:13:19
  twenty minute power nap. While he's in his car. Years ago, I
• 1:13:25
  worked out of my house for a nonprofit organization. Since I didn't have an
• 1:13:29
  office, I frequently met with people at public locations where we could talk,
• 1:13:32
  go over paperwork, et cetera. Well, one day, I'm supposed to
• 1:13:36
  meet a lady at McDonald's at noon to go over some paperwork. I pulled
• 1:13:44
  in about eleven forty in the morning. My eyes were heavy. I knew
• 1:13:46
  I had enough time to squeeze one in before heading inside the meter, leaning
• 1:13:51
  my seat back, closed my eyes. My next conscious memory was jerking awake
• 1:13:58
  to the woman who I was supposed to be meet, angwardly rapping on my
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  window. I stared at her angry face and then at my dashboard clock,
• 1:14:06
  which now read twelve thirty three. I still remember the awkwardness as my seat
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  very slowly raised me to a sitting position while she glared at me from outside
• 1:14:17
  of the car. I apologized profusely, but she let me know and know
• 1:14:23
  uncertain terms, that she was very busy and didn't have time to wait on
• 1:14:28
  people while they slept in their cars. I deserved it, though. I
• 1:14:31
  still take naps in my car, but never right before a scheduled meeting.
• 1:14:35
  Signed by Chris in Fayette County. Yeah, I get it. Good advice.
• 1:14:43
  Yeah, don't sleep never before scheduled meet, Not before scheduled meeting.
• 1:14:46
  When the scheduled meeting, people can see you sleeping. If you oversleep,
• 1:14:48
  yeah, I go somewhere else. Hey, guys, as I'm watching your
• 1:14:54
  discussing discussion on officiating, I wonder do sports betting sharps bet according to the
• 1:15:00
  officials assigned to the game. When Tony says that he can look at a
• 1:15:03
  list of officials before games, see a problem, and during that game,
• 1:15:08
  the premonition becomes reality, I see a tremendous betting opportunity. I'm guessing that
• 1:15:14
  sharps are on this would love to hear Spreads's thoughts. Signed by Buckwheat in
• 1:15:19
  Chicago, originally from Morgantown. I never wish a show. I wish I
• 1:15:25
  could get more often. Yes, So databases out there totals home team versus
• 1:15:33
  road team football, college NFL. Yes, it's a thing. Yeah,
• 1:15:39
  there's databases out there that could tell you what an officials record is refereeing against
• 1:15:45
  a specific team. You could say, hey, the last five years when
• 1:15:49
  this guy's worked a West Virginia game, West Virginia wins eighty two percent of
• 1:15:54
  the time at home and sixteen percent of the time on the road. Whatever,
• 1:15:58
  and what their record is, the total over under That stuff's all their
• 1:16:01
  cruise, number of flags they throw, what kind of penalties they call the
• 1:16:04
  most? How many holding calls they call? Yep, it's there, Texter,
• 1:16:10
  chawimichi. I'm working. I'm not working today, but I am.
• 1:16:15
  Efferty. Well, he got a lot of football helmets. There is that
• 1:16:18
  like a picture inside the equipment room. I mean I had a lot of
• 1:16:20
  helmets. He does. Those are nice, Texter three guy Craig and Oakmont.
• 1:16:27
  I got my popcorn from you guys. I love it and shout out
• 1:16:30
  to Evan and Arlington for the top gift, top notch Texter. Tellny,
• 1:16:36
  are you trolling us, your loyal listeners with the cook a cook jersey question?
• 1:16:42
  With your access and connections, you really don't know why he has a
• 1:16:45
  different name on his jersey. Come on, man, I think the last
• 1:16:49
  show it was something to do with his parents' names, right, it was
• 1:16:53
  one of his parents' names. R E y Na Is that what it is?
• 1:16:57
  I don't remember, Like I'm sorry that it's just like okay, fine,
• 1:17:01
  whatever that to me is not a P one priority to find that out,
• 1:17:05
  but something to do with his parents' name. Someone brought that up,
• 1:17:11
  Tony. Have you ever seen a clock mail function more than it does at
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  the coliseum? Is it an error in the system itself or human error?
• 1:17:18
  If it is with the system, air, we need to update the thing
• 1:17:23
  pronto. Signed by KP. Again, I don't know. I mean sometimes
• 1:17:30
  the clock things that they operate on their waistbands doesn't work. Does worry it
• 1:17:34
  happens. I don't know if West Virginia it happens more than normal. I
• 1:17:39
  mean, I don't know it happens home an away. I mean they stopped
• 1:17:45
  the game, eh, Texter. Don't know why people complain about the officiating.
• 1:17:50
  They had a great whistle tonight. Ha ha ha great w We could
• 1:17:56
  have quit with six minutes left. They fall back. Signed by Periopolis phil
• 1:18:00
  And for Groundhog's Day, I predict six more wins for the World Champions.
• 1:18:04
  Got eleven to go. Take that Charlie from Midlothian. A few intuitively obvious
• 1:18:13
  comments. Those who think basketball is a non contact sport have never played.
• 1:18:17
  Basketball is a game of runs and West Virginia had the last and most important
• 1:18:20
  one. You gotta make your free throws. Spreads will have plethoras of positive
• 1:18:26
  stats, great comeback and great win. Guys you take. How about the
• 1:18:31
  dude Johnny Newman with that injury. Yeah, he was hurting unusual and he
• 1:18:39
  was in unbelievable pain. He was he must have took a knee or a
• 1:18:45
  hip into his hip. I hate to speculate, but I'm about to speculate.
• 1:18:49
  The replay showed he looked to grab his mid section when he was on
• 1:18:54
  the wing, then came in and went down, and when he walked off
• 1:18:57
  he was holding his rent But it was the shoulder right because he then reached
• 1:19:00
  the shoulder out to give one of his teammates five and immediately went back here.
• 1:19:04
  So is it something in the rib area? And that could have happened
• 1:19:08
  at any point. Took an elbow and just like boom, but he visibly
• 1:19:12
  winced and there was there didn't look to be contact, but who knows.
• 1:19:18
  Texter Tony Cincinnati flew in and out of Morgantown. Shorter trip, smaller plane,
• 1:19:29
  question mark. So you can fly a thirty seedar into Morgantown. That's
• 1:19:35
  what they did. I had talked to one of their dudes and they said
• 1:19:39
  they flew a thirty seedar in So, yeah, you can do that.
• 1:19:42
  But West Virginia flies seven thirty seven big boy plane, and Bridgeport is more
• 1:19:50
  safe to land that than in Morgantown. I mean, I guess if you
• 1:19:58
  extended the runway in Morgantown, you'd have to go over the top of West
• 1:20:01
  Banco over to Long John Silvers in order to get enough distance on their runway.
• 1:20:06
  When you think could go over the road on the other side, can
• 1:20:11
  you take it over the other way? Just put traffic underneath us an elevated
• 1:20:14
  runway. Could you do that? Would that be easy for pilots hit an
• 1:20:16
  elevated runway? Yeah, I think we'll stay with Bridgeport. I think we'll
• 1:20:20
  stay there. Yeah. But if you fly a thirty seater we I mean
• 1:20:24
  we'd used to do that. We would fly a regional jet. This was
• 1:20:28
  in the late nineties. We'd come back from basketball sometimes into Morgantown Airport on
• 1:20:33
  a regional. You can do that, but seven thirty seven, because you're
• 1:20:38
  flying longer distances. Now, get a big boy plane. Howdy scopes spreads
• 1:20:45
  and the legislature, man, he's not here. Been a good week to
• 1:20:48
  be a mountaineer so far. It could have folded the tent with that deficit,
• 1:20:53
  but they efforted their way to country roads. Watching this game felt like
• 1:20:57
  pulling teeth. But the students continue to show Wednesday night a seven and thirteen
• 1:21:02
  team and they're still filling the lower level. That one national writer was talking
• 1:21:08
  about downsizing arenas recently, West Virginia doesn't need to do that, even with
• 1:21:13
  a smaller crowd. It was loud on the radio. Yeah, the smaller
• 1:21:18
  basketball arena. Taylor just did it. I don't know we could get into
• 1:21:29
  that discussion. Here's what I think. The coliseum is going to be used
• 1:21:36
  for a minimum of the next twenty five years. When you agree center,
• 1:21:42
  okay, another twenty five. It's got twenty five years left in it as
• 1:21:45
  is, right, Okay, good, let me finish where you're going on.
• 1:21:50
  So like it's going to be what it is. I think the next
• 1:21:54
  time they build one, whenever that is, it'll probably be a little bit
• 1:21:57
  smaller and it'll be more sweets than seats. Yeah. Ten tens a good
• 1:22:01
  number. Yeah. From a from a ticket selling standpoint, you'd rather have
• 1:22:08
  tickets be difficult to come by, then easier to come by, right raises
• 1:22:13
  demand. Yeah, so one of the trends is to have more the one
• 1:22:17
  thing the Colosseum does not have obviously, if you were going to try and
• 1:22:20
  retrofit it. But it's so darn expensive. It's you know, it's going
• 1:22:24
  to roughly be the cost of building a new arena. At times, you'd
• 1:22:27
  you'd put some more suites, or put some suites in there and take out
• 1:22:30
  some general seating if you could figure out a way to do it, which
• 1:22:33
  has been looked at multiple times over the years, just hasn't been cost effective
• 1:22:38
  to do so. Taking a picture hand of second of you. Well,
• 1:22:44
  someone just called us one of our coaching buddies, and I just said,
• 1:22:51
  we're busy. I just said recording and just send them a picture of you
• 1:22:55
  there. I may have gotten this, said us. May have gotten me
• 1:23:00
  in trouble. Did a talk show in Waco yesterday and guy said, hey,
• 1:23:05
  I understand you got some thoughts about Baylor's new arena, and I said,
• 1:23:11
  yeah, I was looking forward to watching a game on television from there.
• 1:23:15
  Didn't know would also give me the opportunity to diagnose some earl or some
• 1:23:21
  early male pattern balding on the players. He said, what do you mean?
• 1:23:26
  I said, what do I mean? Had to take a drama meane
• 1:23:28
  at halftime in orders, I didn't get motions, so they take offense to
• 1:23:30
  that. He was good natured about it. See, you could have put
• 1:23:33
  my name on that too along that that's a bad angle, he said.
• 1:23:35
  The athletics director there was on the show today before and they realized that there
• 1:23:39
  are some things they're going to need to change. He sees it. Yeah,
• 1:23:43
  that's one. Yeah, we're not the only ones saying that. I'm
• 1:23:48
  sure they let you know that. We're not the only ones complaining about that.
• 1:23:53
  I asked someone in wvu's athletic department about that last night, and I
• 1:23:57
  said, how in that world do you build a facility the brand spanking new,
• 1:24:01
  that big where they where someone at some point doesn't go like, wait
• 1:24:05
  a second, what's the mid court camera angle going to look like? Of
• 1:24:10
  all of the things that go on, there's going to be more people in
• 1:24:14
  the history of that building that will watch a game there rather than be inside
• 1:24:16
  the seats to watch the game there. That's your brand, and you don't
• 1:24:21
  need to know what the top of someone's head looks like I think they're going
• 1:24:29
  to get it fixed. Oh, they'll fix it. I promise you.
• 1:24:30
  We're not the only two complaining about that, Yeah, Joe and Charleston.
• 1:24:36
  I understand some of the fan base being upset with how the season has gone
• 1:24:41
  in basketball. One complain I don't understand is people thinking there are no in
• 1:24:45
  game adjustments being made, even if they don't see them during the game.
• 1:24:48
  You guys have covered the defensive adjustments that have been made, and during the
• 1:24:53
  Sinci game, every time the Bearcat's got something going, tweaks were made and
• 1:24:56
  we had an answer for every adjustment. The last five to seven minutes the
• 1:25:00
  game, the Mountaineers were able to really lock in and take away the pick
• 1:25:01
  and pop and the pick and roll, which hasn't exactly been a strong point
• 1:25:04
  this season. There were still a couple of rotations that were a little snow
• 1:25:09
  but for the most part they were taken away. I think we woke up
• 1:25:12
  a few of my Canadian neighbors across the river with my reaction to Edward's willing
• 1:25:18
  the second free throw up to go up for with twenty one seconds to go.
• 1:25:23
  These guys don't quit. They're getting better every game. I know there
• 1:25:27
  isn't a lot of consistency on the road, but especially in basketball, when
• 1:25:29
  a team is in a situation like West Virginia has been with a roster,
• 1:25:31
  it's a lot more difficult to play on the road. Coaching wise, there
• 1:25:36
  is one major thing that I really can't understand from this game last night.
• 1:25:39
  What world was Cincinnati trying to accomplish in the last minute ted or down one
• 1:25:44
  possession. It's like they went into a total panic, taking some of the
• 1:25:46
  worst shots they had taken the whole night. Part of that was strong defense,
• 1:25:49
  but some of their sets after timeouts in the game so close. Let's
• 1:25:54
  just say I'm happy those calls didn't come from our bench. Proud of the
• 1:25:58
  guys and the staff. Another big takeaway for me is that they found ways
• 1:26:00
  to score on a night that Battle wasn't at his best. Not a knock
• 1:26:04
  against him. Everyone has those days. I love watching these guys getting better
• 1:26:08
  every day. Wish we had another season with everyone signed by Roger he lives
• 1:26:13
  up there in Maine. Zero points from the pick and roll man last night
• 1:26:17
  for Cincinnata. Zero Yeah, Texter p One, Jason and Tulsa talked about
• 1:26:24
  him on the last show. He was up in the stands with that beer.
• 1:26:27
  Hey, guys, nice to be back in the win column. I
• 1:26:29
  guess were one and one since this was only our second game with a real
• 1:26:33
  team, full team. First, let me say that I was drinking a
• 1:26:36
  lower case pistol pete beer on Saturday because my date, who was an Oklahoma
• 1:26:42
  State fan, suggested I had one. Honestly, it was terrible. It
• 1:26:46
  tasted no better than the first batch of beer I brewed in a five gallon
• 1:26:49
  bucket and the guest bathroom of the house I was running a long time ago
• 1:26:53
  in Santa Claus, Indiana? Am I crazy to think the new Big twelve
• 1:26:57
  is going to resemble the sixteen team Big East sixteen teams with about nine of
• 1:27:00
  them ranked all the time. Can't wait? I gotta say. Anytime that
• 1:27:04
  Tony says this one will put West Virginia up by four, making it a
• 1:27:09
  two possession game, I cringe a little bit. All I imagine is a
• 1:27:13
  four point play happening immediately. West Virginia would never have something like that happened
• 1:27:18
  to them. Right anyway, great win. Now let's all remember to not
• 1:27:25
  be too loud when the BYU Marshmallows come to town Saturday. Don't want to
• 1:27:28
  make them cry by acting like it's a Division one Power five conference game.
• 1:27:33
  Maybe let's try to end the game in a tie so that everyone can get
• 1:27:38
  a participation in trophy and eleven squares signed by a p one Jason at Tulsa
• 1:27:45
  Texter. Three guys that need Brad to provide some numbers. All due respect
• 1:27:51
  to Ofrey Nevey, here comes a heater. Why is coach either putting them
• 1:27:56
  in midway through or late in the second half? Put him in a crucial
• 1:27:59
  time against Oaks State, we lost our lead, Cincinnati went on a ten
• 1:28:01
  zip run. Not saying he won't be a good player one day, but
• 1:28:04
  why take out Ray Kwan when he's not in foul trouble? Why not put
• 1:28:09
  in Josiah Harris who's proven to knock down shots. Not trying to bash a
• 1:28:14
  guy, but wondering if there are numbers to support that decision. Thank you
• 1:28:16
  so much for the insights. Yeah, another stretch you're talking about that,
• 1:28:20
  I'd have to dive into that a little bit more to see if they're the
• 1:28:23
  numbers back that. That'd be a Josh question. There. Yeah, I
• 1:28:29
  mean there's reasons. I mean specifically, i'd have to ask, but they've
• 1:28:31
  got a real you can ask a what were you thinking there, and they
• 1:28:33
  can say, well, this and this and this were happening, we needed
• 1:28:36
  to do this. I don't know if it was a ray kwon some rest
• 1:28:40
  to be ready for the final five six minutes when he came back in read
• 1:28:45
  in New Jersey rights and I noticed at the game on Wednesday, the Big
• 1:28:47
  Twelve teams were lined up across the top of the screen in the coliseum and
• 1:28:51
  there's a picture see that Brett, And he says teams looked him to be
• 1:28:55
  in alphabetical order based on the school name, except for you, they were
• 1:29:00
  last. Is this because their requesting to be referred to as UCF and therefore
• 1:29:03
  we consider them to start with a U if so too much respect? Haha,
• 1:29:11
  Yeah, that's probably it. I mean that's where they go by UCF,
• 1:29:14
  so US test me for that. So yeah, Texter, let's freaking
• 1:29:21
  go. I'm so pumped up about West Virginia's schedule. And then they went
• 1:29:26
  and added a big win over Cincy. I'm not sure if the Big Twelve
• 1:29:30
  is doing us any favors. The last time West Virginia had seven true home
• 1:29:32
  games in football was twenty sixteen. We won ten games that year. The
• 1:29:35
  buy coming off along road tripped Arizona is nice too. I don't know why.
• 1:29:39
  Maybe I'm already missing college football. I'm super excited for the coming season.
• 1:29:43
  Professor Vinnie Well, he writes, in a lot feel like on a
• 1:29:46
  sabbatical or something. You see a lot of time to write right, and
• 1:29:49
  the semester's going on right and getting ready for midterms between classes. Pat from
• 1:29:56
  Wheeling rights in, can we reschedule all of our games to be played at
• 1:29:59
  home? I think everyone would like nice. Last text comes in from Jack
• 1:30:06
  and Scott Depot just went back and I listened to the very first podcast of
• 1:30:12
  Three Guys Before the Game of your first episode. It was a total of
• 1:30:15
  seventeen minutes long. There was no introduction, music, no sponsors, no
• 1:30:19
  video, quick rundown, here's your show. Hey, everybody, welcome in.
• 1:30:26
  You're watching history being made Texter now. Then he adds, this is
• 1:30:30
  what the topics were Hoppy in Brad's issues with germs and wiping down microphones with
• 1:30:35
  alcohol. Brad talking about Will Greer for the Heisman. You guys talked about
• 1:30:42
  Jake Spavitol, you talked about Virginia Tech's left footed punter. Tony said,
• 1:30:47
  quote who knows where this will be posted? Tony notes, Alan Taylor's podcast
• 1:30:54
  is an hour long. Hoppy says, I can't give anybody an hour.
• 1:31:01
  Oh how times change? That was episode one and this was episode five hundred
• 1:31:10
  and twenty six. So you just never know. You just never know.
• 1:31:15
  Thanks so very much for being with us. Our producer, Austin Wright.
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