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Dragnet: The Big Crime (EP4688) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: But now, from February fifteenth, nineteen fifty one, here is
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  Speaker 1: the Big Crime.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: This program is for you, not your children.
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  Speaker 4: The story you were about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 4: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
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  Speaker 4: a detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile bureau. A worried
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  Speaker 4: mother calls your office and reports that her four year
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  Speaker 4: old twin girls are missing. Ours pass the children fail
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  Speaker 4: to turn up. Your job find them.
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  Speaker 5: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the
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  Speaker 5: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
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  Speaker 5: you will travel step by step on the side of
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  Speaker 5: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files.
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  Speaker 5: From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is
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  Speaker 5: the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 3: It was Saturday, August seventh, was hot in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: We were working the day watch out a juvenile bureau.
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  Speaker 3: My partner's Ben Romero, the bosses inspector Bowling.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Friday. Was seven thirty five pm when
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  Speaker 2: we got to where we parked our car. Eighty K.
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  Speaker 3: I din't see their house is back that way. Huh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let you swing around here.
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  Speaker 6: Huh how I am on that side.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, twenty year room here. No, you better wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: huh Okay, it's all clear now.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know about you. I think there's something sour
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  Speaker 6: about the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, wait till we check at the house. The kids
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  Speaker 3: might have turned up while we were going, I hope so.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 6: We had to go back there empty handed, not one
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  Speaker 6: lousy lead. It's hard to figure the little girls just
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  Speaker 6: wandered off. Somebody should have spotted him by this time,
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  Speaker 6: unless there was some kind of an accident. What time
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  Speaker 6: you got twenty minutes, dake five hours. It's a long
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  Speaker 6: time for a pair of four year olds to be
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  Speaker 6: out of sight, and the parents are going to be worried,
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  Speaker 6: sick when we tell him. Let's set up the next
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  Speaker 6: block in it. Oh yeah, might as well pull up
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  Speaker 6: right here.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, lousy job, I'll put in with you.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, officers come in.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Have you heard anything?
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not too much, mister Carson. We just finished
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  Speaker 3: checking the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 8: Somebody around must have seen the kids. Did you talk
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  Speaker 8: to everybody?
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  Speaker 2: We checked out all the names you gave us.
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  Speaker 6: Their everyone who knows your little girls, the kids, they
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  Speaker 6: play with, their friends, parents, storekeepers in the area.
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  Speaker 8: But somebody had to see that. They got to be
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  Speaker 8: around someplace Joe until he got lost in that park.
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  Speaker 8: I know they would have headed up toward home.
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  Speaker 9: What is it, jo find.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're still checking, mss Carson. There's nothing much to
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  Speaker 2: tell you right now.
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  Speaker 10: Somebody's gott have seen Telly and Joan couldn't have wondered
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  Speaker 10: off that far.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's as bad as it might seem
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  Speaker 6: to you, ma'am. Children have been missing a lot longer
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  Speaker 6: than your two little girls and turned up all right.
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  Speaker 2: Just try to relax, miss Carson.
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  Speaker 10: Why hasn't somebody seen they wandered off from us in
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  Speaker 10: the park, But it's only three blocks from the house.
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  Speaker 10: Why isn't somebody seen it's dark? God knows what could
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  Speaker 10: have happened to them.
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  Speaker 8: Take it easy, honey, don't start imagining things.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's just a matter of time, ma'am. We've
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  Speaker 6: got three teams of men working on it with us.
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  Speaker 6: Gott not a broadcast on you, little girl.
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  Speaker 10: Did you talk to the Stanleys down the street.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, we did. We checked out all the names
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  Speaker 2: that you gave us.
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  Speaker 3: There is one thing we wanted to ask you about, Sargy,
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  Speaker 3: all about the spot in the park where you had
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  Speaker 3: your picnic this afternoon where the little girls wandered off from.
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  Speaker 10: It's exactly where I pointed it out to the other offices,
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  Speaker 10: by the eucalyptus grow right off Seventh Avenue. Just about
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  Speaker 10: two thirty this afternoon, we finished lunch, Frank was taking
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  Speaker 10: a nap, and I was reading. I saw the girls
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  Speaker 10: playing tag over by the trees. I looked up in
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  Speaker 10: a few minutes and they were gone, just like I
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  Speaker 10: told the other officers.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're sure about that location, of.
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  Speaker 9: Course, I'm sure. Where should I lie to you?
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  Speaker 10: I want to find the girls, Please find them.
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  Speaker 2: Search, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 8: Come on, honey, take it easy, huh. It's just never
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  Speaker 8: happened to us before. Sergeant Joan un Tilly had never
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  Speaker 8: gone off like this. It's not like him, that's all.
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  Speaker 8: It's only babies.
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  Speaker 2: Really, would you like me to get that boy, mister Carson, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 2: would you please? Sure? Oh? Hi, Willkie Joe? Anything? No,
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  Speaker 2: that's yet you want to step outside? Yeah? Or half?
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  Speaker 11: And I checked with a guy who runs an ice
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  Speaker 11: cream wagon. He works the area in the park where
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  Speaker 11: the kids are disappeared.
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  Speaker 2: What do he tell you?
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  Speaker 11: I saw a couple of little girls about a half
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  Speaker 11: them mile from Eucalyptus Grove about three o'clock this afternoon.
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  Speaker 11: Were with a man, Yeah, says he saw. The man
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  Speaker 11: put the kids in a truck, drove off with him.
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  Speaker 2: Eight pm.
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  Speaker 3: Together with Tom Wilkie, Ben and I left the home
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  Speaker 3: of mister and missus Frank Carston, the parents of the
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  Speaker 3: missing girls, without telling him about the latest report until
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  Speaker 3: it was positively confirmed. We felt that telling him would
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  Speaker 3: serve no purpose other than to worry them needlessly. The
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  Speaker 3: ice cream vendor, mister George Comanches, who had reported seeing
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  Speaker 3: the four year old girls, considered to drive out with.
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  Speaker 2: Us to the park area.
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  Speaker 3: Where he'd spotted the children in the company of an
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  Speaker 3: unidentified man.
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  Speaker 6: I was right over there was this big guy mustache.
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  Speaker 6: He had the little girls, one on each hand. He
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  Speaker 6: was walking them out of that clump of trees over there.
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  Speaker 6: I think you can describe the man for his met command.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't look that close. I thought he was the father.
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  Speaker 12: The kids were sniffling, you know, maybe like he had
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  Speaker 12: been crying.
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  Speaker 2: A better check out over there by the trees. I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at him. Yeah, sure, stand Ralph, I want to
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  Speaker 2: give a look over here.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't you notice anything at all about this man Mitri manches?
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  Speaker 6: I mean other than his monthday Wow, big man, big shoulders,
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  Speaker 6: regular truck driver, you know, work shoes, blue shirt, blue pants, jeans.
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  Speaker 3: I guess how about the color of his hair, some
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  Speaker 3: kind of distinguishing marks.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, No, I don't know. I thought he was the father.
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  Speaker 6: The kids were sniffling, the little girls. Was anything wrong?
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  Speaker 6: It didn't look like.
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  Speaker 2: How about this man's truck? Did you notice that? No?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't. I was busy with the freezer motor. Then
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  Speaker 6: gives me lots of trouble all the time.
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  Speaker 2: What about the license number?
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  Speaker 12: Do you have to look at that maybe I should
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  Speaker 12: have looked.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Bag of peanuts, orses warm, nice and fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, why don't you eat him while they're warm? Good? No,
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  Speaker 2: I save him for my boys. Crazy for peanuts.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, excuse us, mister Panson, Sure, sure, go ahead, Yeah, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Stan found these over in the bushes where the trees aren't.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see.
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  Speaker 11: Little girl's petticoat, little girls dress ripped pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Eight four pm.
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  Speaker 3: The area where the torn clothing was found was roped
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  Speaker 3: off and checked for footprints and other physical evidence.
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  Speaker 2: None was found.
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  Speaker 3: Homicide Detail was notified and joined in the investigation. The
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  Speaker 3: torn petticoat and dress were taken down to Lee Jones
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  Speaker 3: at the crime Lab for examination, and they were shown to
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  Speaker 3: the father of the missing children, Frank Carston. He definitely
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  Speaker 3: identified them. The search for the four year old twins
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  Speaker 3: joan until he was intensified. An emergency spot check was
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  Speaker 3: made of all known and registered sexual psychopaths. From the
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  Speaker 3: hundreds of names, the Status office came up with one
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  Speaker 3: that might possibly tie in. He was listed as GHL Grahamburg.
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  Speaker 3: His address was at the end of Seventh Avenue, close
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  Speaker 3: by the park area where the Carston twins had disappeared
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  Speaker 3: Mama Sheet. Gremberg was described as tall, well built, dark
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  Speaker 3: hair with a mustache. We found him at his work,
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  Speaker 3: a small bar out in the Wilshire district. He was
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  Speaker 3: the organist there. Yeah, that's right. I live on seventh
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  Speaker 3: Avenue right across the park.
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  Speaker 6: A matter of this time, missing juveniles, can you account
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  Speaker 6: of your time between noon and six o'clock to night? Gramber,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I can or not. I don't
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  Speaker 6: keep a daily log. You know they didn't tell me
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  Speaker 6: how to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, tell us where you were between noon and six tonight,
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  Speaker 3: that's all we want to know.
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  Speaker 2: That's quite a bit, don't you think.
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  Speaker 12: Well, as I told you, I was playing canastera with
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  Speaker 12: a maiden hat with that shock hen Look.
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  Speaker 3: We're not in the mood for smart answers. You just
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  Speaker 3: give us an alibi we can check, that's all.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know why you always have to bother me
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  Speaker 12: when something happens.
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  Speaker 6: You made your own reputation. We didn't know what about it.
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  Speaker 6: I left my apartment about eleven thirty this morning. I
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  Speaker 6: went down to the Union Hall and paid my dues,
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  Speaker 6: had lunch with some friends with the boo pitching on Wilcox.
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  Speaker 12: Theell me went on a tour of one of the studios.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well your friends confirmed that story for you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, they won't.
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  Speaker 12: They left town tonight eight fifteen, trained for San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, miss Seln a special friend of mine from
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  Speaker 2: up north Graham was to hear Indian love call.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, certainly, mister Selton right away?
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  Speaker 2: What about a Gramberg who's looking.
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  Speaker 6: For your alibi? Already told you my friends left town.
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  Speaker 6: You can check with a guard at the movie studio
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  Speaker 6: if you want. We had a pass, time punched in,
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  Speaker 6: time punched out. It should be all there. You want
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  Speaker 6: to call and check that studio.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't mean to be rude, Sage.
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  Speaker 6: I always did feel that registration business is unfair, of course,
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  Speaker 6: grossly unfair.
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  Speaker 2: How do you suggest we keep track of you? Why
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  Speaker 2: do I have to be kept track of anyway? You
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  Speaker 2: know as well as I do.
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  Speaker 6: Your record is all a lie. I hardly even touched
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  Speaker 6: the kid. I paid my time anyway. Why can't you
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  Speaker 6: give me a break every time something happens to a kid?
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  Speaker 2: I have a cop on my neck.
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  Speaker 3: Were you in the seventh Avenue park at any time today?
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  Speaker 2: Gramberg?
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  Speaker 3: Were you in the Seventh Avenue park todays.
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  Speaker 12: Matter of fact, I was. Yeah, I took a walk there.
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  Speaker 6: Time was in But I know I left my friends
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  Speaker 6: after lunch, came home to freshen up about one thirty.
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  Speaker 6: I guess I was in a park about one forty
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  Speaker 6: five two o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Only stayed a few minutes. When'd you leave? About two fifteen?
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  Speaker 2: You went from the park to meet your friends at
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  Speaker 2: the studio? Exactly right? Chance? Did you see two dark
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  Speaker 2: haired little girls while you were in the park. No,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody. I was by myself. I was
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  Speaker 2: sure of that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, of course, I'm sure if I did see him,
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  Speaker 6: it wouldn't mean anything. I don't molest kids. I don't
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  Speaker 6: get along with him, that's all. And another one, Graham,
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  Speaker 6: I wonder if you might playing Diane at aiversary party.
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  Speaker 9: You know?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Thanks Greg? What I was saying, Sergeant, it's
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  Speaker 2: the truth.
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  Speaker 12: I couldn't hurt a little kid.
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  Speaker 2: I never could.
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  Speaker 12: No one says you have I know, but I just
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  Speaker 12: want you to know how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't get along with kids, but I couldn't.
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  Speaker 12: Hurt him little girls especially.
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  Speaker 2: I like kids.
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  Speaker 6: Really, I just don't understand how I like him.
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  Speaker 2: Real strange thing, isn't it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: It yeah, yeah, I see as.
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  Speaker 2: You talk to the studio. Yeah, I checked with the
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  Speaker 2: guard What are you saying? Lamberg was there from two
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  Speaker 2: thirty to four thirty. He double checked the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: his alibi is good.
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  Speaker 3: Ten fifty five pm, the four year old Carston girls
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  Speaker 3: were still missing. A special detail of men from homicide
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  Speaker 3: were assigned to a general canvas of stores and homes
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  Speaker 3: in the Park area. All the residents were questioned. No
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  Speaker 3: one had seen the children. Eleven twenty pm. We headed
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  Speaker 3: back for the Carston home.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all out of smoke, Joe, You've got some? No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm out to.
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  Speaker 3: The drug store up ahead. I guess we can get some.
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  Speaker 3: There a car in front of us. That's Wuilke and
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  Speaker 3: Bates car.
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  Speaker 2: And let's see. Yeah. Oh, here's Wilkie coming out of
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  Speaker 2: the drug store. Well, mel, Joe, just talk to the office.
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  Speaker 2: Anything new.
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  Speaker 11: They got a call from the Valley station a few
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  Speaker 11: minutes ago. Yeah, the little girls had been fomed.
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  Speaker 5: You are listening to Dragnet for the step by step
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  Speaker 5: solution to Tonight's authentic case history.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven twenty five pm.
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  Speaker 3: As soon as we got the word that the four
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  Speaker 3: year old Carston twins had been found, Ben and I
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  Speaker 3: drove back to the office where Inspector Bowling filled us in.
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  Speaker 3: A few minutes past eleven PM, a motorist out in
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  Speaker 3: the valley spotted the two small girls walking hand in
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  Speaker 3: hand along a deserted side road off Ventura Boulevard. Their
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  Speaker 3: clothing was dirty and torn. They were alone. The motorists
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  Speaker 3: picked them up took them to the Valley Division station,
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  Speaker 3: where the girls were identified.
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  Speaker 2: We sent out a partial cancelation on the APB.
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  Speaker 3: The twin girls were taken to the Georgia Street Receiving Hospital,
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  Speaker 3: where they were treated her cuts and bruises.
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  Speaker 2: When they were returned to their home, the doctor reported
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  Speaker 2: that both girls.
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  Speaker 3: Had been criminally molested. The search for the abductor went on.
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  Speaker 3: Late the next day, Ben and I drove out to
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  Speaker 3: the Carston home to talk to the twins, Joan and Tilley.
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  Speaker 2: They had no luck at all.
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  Speaker 3: They were still shaking up from the excitement and shock
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  Speaker 3: of their experience. We went back to the living room
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  Speaker 3: with their mother, Helen Carston.
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  Speaker 10: It was the same thing this morning when I tried
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  Speaker 10: to question them. They just don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 9: Must have been.
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  Speaker 2: Horrible for them. Didn't tell you anything at all?
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  Speaker 10: Of course, Well, Joan just refuses to talk about it.
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  Speaker 10: She says the man was big. It's all I could
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  Speaker 10: get out of her. Tilly seems a little more willing
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  Speaker 10: to talk, though she's always been a little more forward
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  Speaker 10: than Joan, ever since they were babies.
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  Speaker 2: I see, Well, could.
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  Speaker 3: She add anything in all of what your other little
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  Speaker 3: girl told you about the man?
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  Speaker 10: She told her father the man had a mustache, probably
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  Speaker 10: impressed her because my husband wears one too. Pretty certain
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  Speaker 10: she's right about that. I can usually tell when she's
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  Speaker 10: making up things.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how about the way the man was dressed his clothes?
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  Speaker 9: No mentioned anything particular.
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  Speaker 10: Tilly told me the man was dirty. She said it
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  Speaker 10: two or three times, dirty, dirty clothes. She might have
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  Speaker 10: met the man had work clothes on. She has so
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  Speaker 10: many expressions.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: How did the man get your little girls into the truck?
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  Speaker 6: You offer them candy or.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that.
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  Speaker 10: Tilly said something about a kitten. The man had a
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  Speaker 10: little kitten, and he was going to give it to
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  Speaker 10: them if I told him about that once. I told
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  Speaker 10: him a thousand times, stay away from strangers don't go
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  Speaker 10: with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. Did they tell you anything else at all
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: about the man's description?
• 17:32
  Speaker 10: Tilly said, the man was big. I don't know if
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: you could count on that. Everybody looks big to her.
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: I talked to her an hour, but she just kept
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: repeating the same story. The man made them cry to her,
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: their dresses hurt them.
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: It's horrible for it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Does he tell you anything at all about the truck
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: the man was driving. Maybe the color or something like that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: Well, Tilly called it a big car, funny big car.
• 17:57
  Speaker 10: She said it was red, with red pictures all over her.
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: You can't put much faith in that, though, Why not, ma'am?
• 18:04
  Speaker 10: Why everything's red to Tilly? Now everything has red pictures
• 18:07
  Speaker 10: on it. Just a phase she's going through. A few
• 18:11
  Speaker 10: weeks ago, it was blue. Everything was blue to her.
• 18:13
  Speaker 10: Now it's red. Everything's red.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: You think they might be able to tell you a
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: little more in a day or so, after they've quieted down.
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: Well, I don't know. I certainly hope. So, thank god
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: it's all over. They're home safe. That's all it counts.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm afraid there's more to it than that
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: what The man that did it still free. Monday, August ninth,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the search for the suspect went on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: All of us.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: The men from Juvenile and Homicide Detail were pretty much
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: feeling our way in the dark. Repeated questioning of residents
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: living in the area where the abduction took place.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Net it is nothing.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Our two star witnesses, the four year old twins were
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: able to contribute a little.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: We stayed on it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Another three days of pounding the pavement, knocking on doors,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and asking stock questions lead nowhere.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: As in most cases.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Like this one, the criminal enjoyed the distinct advantage of
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: having victims who were unable because of their age, to
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: clearly identify him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Tuesday, August tenth, in.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: The late afternoon, we got a call from a Bernice Hopper,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: a real estate agent in the West Hollywood area.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Four or fifteen pm. Ben and I drove out the interviewer.
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Excuse me, officer, I just got to find that listing.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Book first, right here, miss Over.
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: I just know it's got to be here someplace. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: yesterday morning I remember just sink, oh, here it is there.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: You can start to do business again. Well, I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: know who's going to help you and in your case officers.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: But I certainly think something should be done about it. Flagrant,
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: that's the only word I can think of. Just flagrant.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Would you like to tell us about it? Man?
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: I saw him yesterday, for one thing, So I was
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: coming back from lunch, but two thirty in the afternoon, mondays,
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: I always have late lunch.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think I was.
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: Just passing the corner a few blocks from the grammar
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: school right up above on Prospect Avenue, and I saw
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: this truck park and this truck driver leaning out of
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: the window talking to some children, just tops, they were.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Just tops, Yes, ma'am. What happened?
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: Well, what happened? It's not so much that it's just
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: the way this truck driver was talking to these children.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: I must have been at least twenty feet from them,
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: and even I could hear what was that man in
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: his language? Just filth. I couldn't understand that a grown
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: man talking to little tops like that, every kind of filth,
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: every obscene word you think of. Flagrant, just flagrant.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Was there any point in the way he was talking
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: to the children's offer? I mean, was he mad at them?
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: He seems sober? Or what was it?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It?
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: Was filth, that's all I know. Obviously, just dirt and filth.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: Some of the children didn't like it, and they told
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: him that only made him do it all the more.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: I really think you ought to check up on him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, well can you tell us anything else about it?
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: Would you excuse me? How do you do? My name
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: is Bernice Hopper?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: May I help you? How do you do? I'm Arthur Thomlinson.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: You showed me in the White Place last weekend?
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: Oh yes, of course, mister Thomason cottage out on Norwich.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it. Yeah, that's right. Well, the wife and I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: certainly didn't like it. She wants me to put a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: deposit on Its still for sale like that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Well no, as a matter of fact, I stole it monday.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: It's just like I told you, things go fast, of
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: course if you had a substantial down payment to make
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: at the time.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it did take me a few days to
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: get some money together.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It's too bad. Raine certainly loved the place. It's too bad.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: I guess.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: I'm very sorry mister thomasin There wasn't anything I can do.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that. Well, thanks anyway, man, I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: guess We'll keep looking. Something may turn on.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: I'm sure it. Well, thanks for stopping by again, mister Thomason.
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah bye, oh by. Everybody wants something for nothing. They
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: want houses, but they don't show the money.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: What was it the truck driver that you saw? Now?
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Well, after hearing that talk of his, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: just copied down the license number of the truck I
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: got right here in my desk.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Oh how about the truck driver? Man, did you get
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: a good love in him?
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: I certainly did. The way he acted to those children.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Unusual about his appearance.
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: Oh, nothing beside his foul mouth. He was tall, dark,
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: had a mustache, ties in one more thing truck he
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: was driving. Yes, ma'am, there were pictures painted on the side,
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: circus animals. I think.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Did you notice the color?
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: Yes, it was red. Even the pictures are red.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Four forty five pm.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: We took the license number of the truck, which Bernice
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Hopper had given us, and drove back to the office
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and check through DMV. We found the truck was registered
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to a commercial baking firm in the south end of town.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Through their personnel department and their dispatcher's office, we got
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the name and address of the employee who was driving
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the truck. The same day, Bernice Hopper had spotted the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: driver talking to the school children.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: His name was Lester Wiley.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: We checked a little further found that he was driving
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: the same truck the day the Carston twins were abducted.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: We called into R and I, while he had no
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: criminal record. Six point thirty pm, we located the suspect
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: at his home, an old style green and white bungalow
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: on the edge of the Highland Park district. He sat
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: in the dining room and drank some kind of sweet
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: wine from a large water glass while we questioned him.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's sure stupid, I mean, huh. I didn't even ask
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: if you wanted some of this.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: No, thank you. I'd like to have you explained about
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: your language in front of those school kids.
• 23:50
  Speaker 13: Nothing explained. A bunch of those kids are hanging around
• 23:57
  Speaker 13: the truck. How maybe they wanted to. I didn't grab
• 24:00
  Speaker 13: some of the cakes and stuff. I read them off
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: it so well. I still doesn't explain the filthy language, Wiley.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: Maybe I wasn't feeling good that day, might let a
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: few cuss words slip.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I haven't made anything, but it I like kids. Do
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you usually make deliveries up around that school area? Welly,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that's so yeah, I get around quite a bit. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: not what they tell us down where you were. Huh.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: You had no business in the neighborhood of that school.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Your delivery routs on the other end of town, so
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: I can't drive for a walter.
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: Huh, I get the deliveries made. What are they squawking.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: About, like to know what you were doing it from
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that neighborhood.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: It's on my lunch aar drove up to see a friend.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: I got a friend living near the school. What's the
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: matter anyway?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Don't you think you've had enough of that? Oh? Cannot
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: tell me what I have to do in my house.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: It's my house. I want a glass of wine.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I have it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: You're not telling me what to do, all right, Well,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I just take it easy, take it easy. Nothing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: I talked to you too long enough. There's the door.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: You're not coming in here telling me what to do.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You better get your coats. We'll talk downtown.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: We're not talking any place now, get out, Get out
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: of his house right now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Afraid your alibi is not gonna hold up.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know what you're talking about. You're trying
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: to frame you, don't you think I know that that
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: doesn't make much sense. Why should we want to frame you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: I know what you're getting at, just what you're getting
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: at those two little girls last week. You're going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 13: say I took him. You're gonna say I did things
• 25:23
  Speaker 13: to him. Well, I didn't had anything to do with it,
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: didn't you. Oh no, no, I didn't. Look I'm sorry.
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: I'd just sit down. Mean what I said, because I
• 25:39
  Speaker 13: just got nervous.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Sure, well, and we understand. Why an't you let me
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: get a couple of glasses.
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: Huh?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Have some of this wine warms you up? Good?
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I just like to have you straightening us out and
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: a couple of things, and we'll let you alone.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I like to know if you're gonna count for your
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: time between twelve noon and eleven pm last Saturday.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: That's to day somebody picked up those two little girls,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, that's right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't know, just making deliveries like I always
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: do up to eleven o'clock at they I was a
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: little late.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's not usual though. That's so you know they're
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: working day, so it's good wine.
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: I might have been near the park where those kids were,
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: doesn't mean anything, though. I get around quite a bit
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: a lot of deliveries to make.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: All right, Come on, how about it? Wellly, did you
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: grab those two little girls?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Why did you?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: All right, mister up, get out of my house.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Got out of my house, all.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Right, Ben, get them on them.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't have approve, but you know that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And what about it, Wally, it's the use? Oh good
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: at all you want to tell us about it. I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: didn't mean it, that's all. I didn't mean it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: Just once in a while something goes wrong with me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: I like kids, like them too much. I guess.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I didn't mean to hurt him. You're ready to go
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: now anything you say. I thought I had it with
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: me when I grabbed the kids. I was in my
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: coat pocket and I lost it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Glad you lost what pocket knife? I was going to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: kill him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: The story you have just heard was true, only the
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: On December tenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: In a moment, the results of that trial, now here
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: is our star Jack Webb.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you friends.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: As you might have heard me say before on Dragnet,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: we try to present the kind of entertainment that you want.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: You're the boss.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Lester Wiley waived his rights to a preliminary hearing and
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: at his arraignment in Superior Court he entered a plea
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: of guilty to one count of kidnapping and one count
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: of child molesting. He received the sentence as prescribed by
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: law and is now serving his term in the state penitentiary.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Police Department.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Now there's more exciting listening with Counterspy on NBC.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a great episode. It shows how
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Dragnat balanced the need to show sensitivity while also shining
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: light on difficult issues. In this case, it dealt with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a very real issue of child abductions and molestation without
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: getting too explicit, and it highlighted the problems out there. Certainly,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the police can question registered offenders, but so many are
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: not caught or have not been caught in under the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: radar The only way they found out in this case
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was because of the language he was using around kids.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I questioned in the past, and still questioning whether he'd
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: even be reported today. I think so many people feel
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: free to talk however they like around kids that no
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: one would take notice of it. The TV version of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this is also very good, and it's a little different
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: for the performance of Jack Krushan, who played the criminal.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: The TV episode actually ends after Friday and his partner
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: leave with the suspect, the camera panning down to show
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the knife on the floor and dwell on it, showing
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: how something that was this horrible really could have actually
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: been much much worse. Well, now we turn to listener
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: comments and feedback, and we start on Instagram with a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: comment regarding the radio version of the Big cast Brains
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Benton rights that was a creepy criminal. Great job by
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Stacy Harris and Melanie comments fun fine scene. The sound
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: effects team rocked. Thanks Melanie. Web actually had five sound
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: effects men work on Drag Now and there was just
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: a great dedication to realism and professionalism in the way
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they did everything, and they did a great job making
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that story come a lot. I will go ahead and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: tease and I'll tease a bit at the end of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the episode. Our video theater this week will actually be
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the TV version of the Big cast, so you can
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: compare it to the radio version. I actually think that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: while Stacy Harris did a good job, the actor in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the TV version does even better. And there were also
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: some interesting things that they did with the TV version
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of the fight, So I encourage you to check that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: out on Video Theater and the History Chaser riots. Thank
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you for keeping these pieces of history alive. And another
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: listener comment specifically regarding the episode add insult to injury,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote mom only gets a year on a
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: manslaughter charge. Children didn't rate too highly even back then,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and in a similar vein on Spotify, Frosty Booboo rites
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: one year for manslaughter of a child. I would agree that,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: based on everything we heard in that episode, one year
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: seemed rather lenient. I checked an undercurrent California law, involuntary
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: manslaughter can carry sentence of up to four years in
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: prison and voluntary manslaughter up to eleven. I don't know
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: if the statues have been changed over the years to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: make the sentence for manslaughter horser, but again, we didn't
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: get anything in that episode that would make us think
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that there were mitigating circumstances that would indicate a lesser sentence.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: It does always seem that there are some judges who
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: just don't take these sort of things as serious asly
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: as they ought. Every few years there'll be a situation
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: where there's a crime against.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: A child and.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Their person is found guilty and the sentence just doesn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: seem just at all. Another comment from YouTube regarding this episode,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a listener writes, as a parent, I think this might
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: have been the single hardest episode to listen to of
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: any show on your channel. Thanks for the comment and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: sorry about that. Of course that was posted before today's episode,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: which for many listeners might be much more difficult. But
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: on this one anyway, I warned you, and so did
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Jack Webb about it. There are a number of episodes
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that really do hit hard and hit differently for me
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: now that I'm a parent, This one and The Big
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Children to a certain extent, and then something like twenty
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: two Rifle for Christmas. Now keep in mind that they
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: replay twenty two Rifle for Christmas in December of nineteen fifty,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so parents got all three of those episodes within about
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a two and a half month period. I will say
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that while there are some episodes that can be emotionally
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: challenging to a degree, I don't think you really get
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: something quite on that level throughout the rest of the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: radio series. So I don't know. Maybe they got a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: few letters from parents asking them to maybe tone it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: down to that. Back to Spotify and another comment regarding
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the Big Cast, Mike writes, twelve men dropped completely from
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: site serial killer much. Yeah, I think that the killer
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in the Big Cast would fit the modern definition of
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: a serial killer. It just wasn't a term in use
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: back in the nineteen fifties, at least not on Dragnet.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: But he definitely fits. And there were serial killers like that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You might think of some of the ones who were
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: more sensationally perverse, but there were quite a few serial
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: killers in more modern times who very much fit the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: profile of the in in that episode. And then we
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: have some comments from Harrison regarding a few episodes, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: we start with the big Jump where he begins with
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a quote from the episode this, Harrison is a mental case.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Well that's a fine. How do you do, Ben, I've
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: had a few episodes I've listened to where the villain
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: killer bad guy Lowlife wasn't named Graham, and it is
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a little weird listening to, so I empathize. He goes
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: on to write, this episode is one of my favorites.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: The last line you told me which way to lean
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is why Ben Romero is my favorite partner of Joe's.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I enjoy their small talk and the way they express
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: their friendship through lines like that. Well, thanks so much, Erison,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and I think that there is something about Ben Romero.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: When you get into Ben Alexander and later Harry Morgan,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they do bring a certain added entertainment value to the episode.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: If at all possible, writers give them two or three
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: minutes for comedy sketch in which they show how odd
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and quirky they are, and I quite enjoy that. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: with Ben Romero, I think you do have someone who
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: feels more authentically like an actual police officer, an actual
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: typical police officer with deadpan humor and ways of trying
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to make a lot of situations that really could have
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: been quite deadly. My favorite example of that is in
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that episode the City Hall Bombing or the Human Bomb,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: where Friday gets the bomb and trips and falls down
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the steps. The bomb goes flying but doesn't go off,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and it turns out that it needed a hard pull,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: so they're safe, though they easily could have got blown up.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And Ramero just comes over to Friday and says, clumsy,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that is such a real moment and it really does
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: work quite well in the context of the show. And
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think any other Joe Friday partner would.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Pull that off.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And regarding the Big Family, he writes, maybe I miss something,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: but isn't the crime. Isn't it a crime to at
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the very least the wasted man hours of the police department.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I figure if anyone would be irked at that, it'd
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: be Joe Friday. Well, to be fair, I think Joe
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Friday showed he was irked in a professional way. He's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: not going to go off on the gentleman. But he
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: did tell him, you know, aren't we kind of entitled
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to an explanation. We were put to a lot of
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: trouble because of this or words to that effect. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: obviously he was annoyed and he felt like, come on,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you got to explain what happened here, but it's not
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: something you can prosecute for now. You or I at
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: any time we'd like, can go down to the bus station,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: buy a ticket to Oklahoma City, not tell anyone where
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: we're going or why we're going, and just wander around
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. Hitch hike around Oklahoma and that's not a crime,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you know, unless hitch hiking in Oklahoma is. Then don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: hitch hike in Oklahoma. I'm not an expert on Oklahoma law,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: but regardless, you know, if you just want to wander
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: around Oklahoma, that's not a crime. Of course, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: if you get in the wrong place, there are vagrancy
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: laws and things like that. But if I disappear from
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Boise without giving any notice, I don't have any responsibility
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to the city of Boise to tell them, Hey, I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: need to let you know where I'm going so that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you don't worry, because I'm not accountable to them. Now,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: there are people I am accountable too, and I'm not
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: going to do that. But the city is not owed
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: an explanation and the best defense if they try to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: drag him under court for some pretense and say, yo,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you caused us to spend a lot of man hours,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and is response to me who asked you to? I
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: didn't ask you to. I didn't ask you to go
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in spend your time searching for me. Oh, yes, the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: police were irked, but no, that is an auto crime.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And then we go back a bit where Harrison riots
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: regarding Ben's quest for Graham bread. You mentioned a place
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: in Illinois that supposedly still makes their version of the bread. Well,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: it just so happens I live in Illinois. Maybe this
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: could be a podcast special assignment. I don't want to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: be careful here because actually, as a state, Illinois has
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: some of the highest concentration of listeners in the entire country.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I could say the entire world, which would be true,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: but eighty percent of our listeners are in the US,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: so that is just being overly dramatic. Illinois has the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: sixth highest population in the United States, but produce the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: third most downloads to our podcast, a bit more than Florida,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: which has double the population. All that to say, want
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to swamp this poor bakery. But they do actually ship
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: their bread, which is good because our Illinois listeners are
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: centered around the Chicago area, and according to Google Maps,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: this bakery is about a forty minute drive, which you
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: think about it, you know, both ways you're looking at
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: an hour and twenty minutes to try out some bread,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and even further if you're in other parts of the state.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And let me just say I do not have any
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: experience with this bakery. They aren't paying and I can't
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: vouch for the quality. But if you want to try
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: it out, it is the Ideal Bakery Ideal Bakery dot
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: net and they are in elk Grove Village if you
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: have to drive any distance there, I would go on
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the website, get their phone number and call ahead. But
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: if you want to just have them bread ship to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you and find out what it is that so excited
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the Romeros about this, then yeah, I just go to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: ideal Bakery dot net and you can order it shipped
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and probably from outside of Illinois as well. All right, well,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and I want to go ahead and thank Eliza. Eliza's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: been one of our Patreon supporters since July twenty twenty one,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: currently supporting the podcast at the shawmus level of four
• 42:56
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• 42:59
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• 43:02
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• 43:22
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• 43:27
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• 43:32
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• 43:36
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• 43:40
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• 43:45
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• 43:52
  Speaker 1: for the adventures of the falcon.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Where I am? I wonder if you can help me out.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Look at them tooes making a bird dog. I'm afraid not.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: I've quit the rocket. I said to be a cinch.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: I'm looking for a girl named Florette de Val. It's
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: like looking for John Smith in New York. And so
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: I learned the hard way. I ran into one of
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: them this afternoon, almost got myself in a jam.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: You know what happened.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: It's a long, dull story. Well, I don't mind as
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: long as your brandy holds out well. During the war,
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: my brother wound up in the hands of the Castapo
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: thanks to a Floretta val I got a tip she
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: was in Paris and living in the Polus the wrong lucky.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: She was the wrong girl, lucky for whom. Huh, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: see you're packing a gun. Yeah, she hadn't done some
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: fast talking that John Diarmes might be hunting a killer tonight.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: Obviously she was the wrong girl.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she couldn't possibly have known Paul. She was brought up.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Wait a minute, she knew his name was Paul. You
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: probably told her No, I just referred to him as
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: my brother. She was the one who came up with
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: a name of love call. You know what? Do you know?
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: She was the right Florette de val after all? Sorry, wearing,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I got a run. And where do you think you're going?
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: Correct a mistake I made. You're out of the mind.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: Be a good kid and stay out of this oka.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: If you think I'm gonna let you walk out of
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: here and commit murder.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what I think. Now, get out of my way.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: Don't be a fool. Call you're gonna get out of
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: my way? Give me that gun Okay.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, send
• 45:20
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• 45:35
  Speaker 1: This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.