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Three Pleasant Surprises For The Ohio State Offense This Season · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning from Monday, September fifteenth of
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  Speaker 1: We are at the point in the Ohio State football
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  Speaker 1: season where it seems like a very logical time to
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  Speaker 1: sort of take a little bit of a step back
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  Speaker 1: and take a little bit of a look back at
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  Speaker 1: the first three games and then maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a look forward in terms of what it might
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  Speaker 1: mean for the rest of the season. The Buckeyes, of
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  Speaker 1: course number one, just wrapped up their non conference portion
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  Speaker 1: of the.
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  Speaker 2: Schedule three and zero with wins.
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  Speaker 1: Over Texas and Grambling and Ohio in three very different
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  Speaker 1: football games. And then now you also have a week
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  Speaker 1: off to sort of let everyone heal up a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: sort of let get figure out where maybe things went well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe where things didn't go well, and then figure out
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  Speaker 1: what you need to do and moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Before you do, hop on an airplane and fly out
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  Speaker 2: to Washington. So we are we talking.
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  Speaker 1: About three things on the Ohio State offense that have
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  Speaker 1: been sort of pleasant surprises from the first three games.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: My guest today is Tony Gerdaman, a Bucke Huddle dot Com. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: I think the first thing that I had on my
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  Speaker 1: list is Julian Saying and the play of Julian Saying,
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  Speaker 1: because I think we have known since he was a recruit,
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  Speaker 1: and since he was, you know, a transferred to Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: very talented quarterback, but a young quarterback, first time started quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: you always wonder how is this going to translate to
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  Speaker 1: the field. What's it really going to look like on
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  Speaker 1: the field when the lights are on and the stands
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  Speaker 1: are full. To me, the first three games here Julian
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  Speaker 1: Saying have been above with the outcome that I had
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  Speaker 1: sort of expected coming into the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it started right away, even watching that Texas
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  Speaker 3: game where he never was rattled. He looked completely in control.
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  Speaker 3: And you can trast that with the first three fall
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  Speaker 3: camp practices that we saw, where so especially the first
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  Speaker 3: one where you're like, this is not the Julians saying
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  Speaker 3: that I was promised and and he knew what was
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  Speaker 3: not as certainly not as pinpoint accurate as we've come
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  Speaker 3: to know him to be. And just that level of
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  Speaker 3: precision has been impressive. Now he's got two, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: back to back three hundred yard passing games could be
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  Speaker 3: the a guy that could throw for you know, back
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  Speaker 3: back to back to back three hundred yard passing games
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  Speaker 3: for the first time since C. J. Stroud Tom in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. He did not even do it in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, I believe, So it could be some
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  Speaker 3: rarefied air just already in his fourth career start. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's number two in the nation in completion percentage, he's
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  Speaker 3: number three in passer rating, he's number three in yards
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  Speaker 3: per attempt. And that includes the fact that they played
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  Speaker 3: Texas and that he played one half of of ball
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  Speaker 3: against Grambling, And so there's a lot to lie And
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  Speaker 3: I think Buckkeye fans have bought in already, like they're
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  Speaker 3: sold they the deep ball has been better than it
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  Speaker 3: was at this point last year. There's been like, like
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  Speaker 3: what at what point? The question at what point now?
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  Speaker 3: At this point, what is the big question? Is it
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  Speaker 3: just like the red zone offense, And as Ryan Day
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  Speaker 3: said after the Ohio game, it's like, well that was just, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the throws a little off here to throws a little
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  Speaker 3: off There, No big worries just yet, but like that's
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  Speaker 3: been the only downside. And the two interceptions the one
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  Speaker 3: was a bad one against Ohio. The second one is
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  Speaker 3: I still contend was a fumble. But these are all
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  Speaker 3: good learning lessons for him, so he won't be necessarily
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  Speaker 3: as I don't know, maybe greedy would be the phrase
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  Speaker 3: I would use these last couple of games.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you and I have also recorded the Michigan Monday
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  Speaker 1: podcast and a lot of the stuff that we talked
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  Speaker 1: about with Bryce Underwood applies to Julian saying they're kind
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  Speaker 1: of different players and Underwood's a little bit more did
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  Speaker 1: with his legs, but those are you can tell watching
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  Speaker 1: These are both guys who have always been the best
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  Speaker 1: player on every field they've ever been on. So now
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  Speaker 1: you're adjusting to, oh, everyone else here is also good
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  Speaker 1: at football right now, and that that's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of an adjustment, and saying has had an extra year
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  Speaker 1: on a college campus, so that is a you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an advantage for him, and
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  Speaker 1: he's obviously a little bit ahead of Underwood as.
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  Speaker 2: A result of that.
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  Speaker 1: But you do see, you know, not identical players, but
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  Speaker 1: two you know, similar players in some ways kind of
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  Speaker 1: working themselves through the same kind of learning process. And
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  Speaker 1: I think we have urged some caution with Underwood, and
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  Speaker 1: you know the fact that hey, it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be a absolutely smooth, smooth line, you know, the stunks
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  Speaker 1: line straight up to the start, you know, not going
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  Speaker 1: to go straight to the moon immediately. That's not how
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback development works. And there will undoubtedly be some
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  Speaker 1: rough patches at some point for Julian saying this year,
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  Speaker 1: but so far, yeah, I think the floor is significantly
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  Speaker 1: higher for him than I would have said a month
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  Speaker 1: or so ago, or a month or two back. So
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  Speaker 1: another guy that I think has been a very pleasant surprise.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure right now everyone's going talk about bo Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. We know, we were there, We
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  Speaker 2: were also there.
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  Speaker 1: We saw we all saw the last two games of
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  Speaker 1: bo Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: So Tony talk about Bo Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're talking about a guy who against Ohio State's
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  Speaker 3: two worst opponents. Nine carries in each game, two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and seventeen yards total. He's third on the team and
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  Speaker 3: carries right now, but he has sixty six yards more
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  Speaker 3: on the ground than CJ. Donaldson, who is second and Tom.
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  Speaker 3: You might be pleased to know this after the game
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  Speaker 3: or no, during the game. During the Ohio game, I
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  Speaker 3: tweeted at bo Jackson can play in one more regular
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  Speaker 3: season game before Ohio stay asked to decide if they're
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  Speaker 3: going to red shirt him. And as you can imagine,
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  Speaker 3: the people who didn't understand the joke, will we're letting
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  Speaker 3: me know how much of an idiot I was. And
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  Speaker 3: what they forgot to tell me is that Bo Jackson
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  Speaker 3: didn't even play against Texas, so he's actually got two
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  Speaker 3: more games before Ohio State head coach Ryan Day has
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  Speaker 3: to decide do we want to red shirt this guy?
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  Speaker 3: And so we'll see how these next two games go
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  Speaker 3: and see what they decide then. But yeah, we've talked
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  Speaker 3: about how when Brian Day talks about players like you
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  Speaker 3: can tell when he's really sees something and then then
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  Speaker 3: he has to dial back what he's saying because he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to spill the beans too much. That's kind
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  Speaker 3: of how he was against Ohio or afterwards against Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's everybody that sees it, sees them
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  Speaker 3: stand out and he gets gets to the whole quick
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  Speaker 3: and then he can he can go the distance and
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  Speaker 3: he runs hard. Showed this week that he can catch
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  Speaker 3: the ball as well. So yeah, definitely a lot to
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  Speaker 3: like there, and you know, we'll see how it goes
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  Speaker 3: moving forward when he starts playing on the road and
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  Speaker 3: how he handles that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the E break in your car, Ryan day,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell what Ryan is driving with the E
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  Speaker 1: break on, just you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's driving, but it's it is holding him back a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: The E in this case stands for enthusiasm in case
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  Speaker 1: you did not know so.
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  Speaker 2: And also, man, I I cannot love. I did not see.
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  Speaker 1: That tweet on Saturday night, but man, that is that
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  Speaker 1: is a Tony Gerdaman special right there. And that right
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  Speaker 1: there is the difference between the dumbest kind of person
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  Speaker 1: online and the smartest person online. The dumbest person online
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get the sarcasm and tells you that you're an
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  Speaker 1: idiot for posting it. The smartest person online does get
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  Speaker 1: the sarcasm. And tells you you're an idiot because he
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  Speaker 1: has two games left, not one.
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  Speaker 2: What are you stupid? That's that's the move, kids, That
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  Speaker 2: is the tweet. Work, work, be better, do better. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So someone else who has been doing better is Philip Daniels.
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  Speaker 1: He was someone that came from Minnesota and coming in
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  Speaker 1: in the spring, you know, you had done a breakdown
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  Speaker 1: of where, you know, where he was with the Gophers
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  Speaker 1: last year, and he had played it, you know, started
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  Speaker 1: four games and was okay but not amazing. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the consensus coming into the spring was, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be probably someone who you work a year and
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  Speaker 1: then you start in twenty twenty six. And then you
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  Speaker 1: kept hearing about Philip Daniels all through camp and through
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  Speaker 1: summer and through fall, and it was like, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to start, isn't he?
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  Speaker 2: And he hasn't just started. He's been really solid through
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  Speaker 2: three games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has. And he's not been the issue on
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line. He's brought a level of toughness, not
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  Speaker 3: that they weren't before, but he wants to smoke like
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  Speaker 3: he likes that sort of stuff, and he's been physical.
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  Speaker 3: He's been solid, Like the first sacks of the season
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  Speaker 3: came this past weekend against Ohio, and he was much
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  Speaker 3: more than I thought he was going to be this year.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm maybe I'm alone in that time, maybe I
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  Speaker 3: was the only person who didn't see this happening because
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  Speaker 3: we all just penciled in ethan on Eonua and then
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  Speaker 3: maybe after spring went over that with Ink perhaps, and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, by the by the second week of
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  Speaker 3: fall camp, it's like, well, actually, you know, you got
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  Speaker 3: Phillip Daniels in there, and he's doing really well and
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  Speaker 3: people really like him, and you keep hearing more and
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  Speaker 3: more about him, because there was a time where I
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  Speaker 3: was convinced Ian Moore was in the third tackle and
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  Speaker 3: actually now he is, but that's because heathn now on
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  Speaker 3: Iona is at at guard pretty much now. And we
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  Speaker 3: saw we saw Ian Moore going and play some right
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  Speaker 3: tackle against Ohio when Phillip Daniels had to come out
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  Speaker 3: early in that game. But he's just been a really
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  Speaker 3: pleasant surprise and a guy who has two more years
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  Speaker 3: after this and maybe isn't necessarily the profile of the
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  Speaker 3: goes pro early kind of guy, but you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: he'll get there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as a right tackle with nil.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can probably you know, make a fairly comfortable
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  Speaker 1: living for another year or two in Columbia, and he
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  Speaker 1: certainly seems to enjoy playing for Ohio State. He's talked
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that, you know, as a Cincinnati kid,
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  Speaker 1: that was some you know, something.
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  Speaker 2: That he was looking forward to doing.
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  Speaker 1: And so yeah, now to getting that opportunity a little
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  Speaker 1: earlier than expected.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Three things that are sort of pleasant surprises early in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season for the Ohios Dad Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 1: On offense, we'll talk about the defense on another show
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  Speaker 1: later this week, because there have been some plenty of
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  Speaker 1: pleasant surprises there as well. We're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff this week at Buckey Huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk.
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  Speaker 1: About as the buck Eyes head out of that non
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  Speaker 1: conference schedule and into Big Ten play, getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: make their first trip out to Seattle since two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seven. We're looking forward to that one very much.
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  Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun stuff to do out
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  Speaker 1: there and should be supposed to be promised one of
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  Speaker 1: the prettiest settings in college football. So we will be
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  Speaker 1: be there for all of that. On the shores of
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  Speaker 1: Lake Washington at Husky Stadium a little over a week
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  Speaker 1: from now. So join us at Buckeye huddle dot com
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  Speaker 1: hope to see you there. That'll do it for today.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow.