Latest / The Living Waters Podcast / Ep. 171 - Exploring What Happened in the Garden of Gethsemane
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- 1:04Ray Comfort: I had my Gethsemane experience two weeks after I saved.
- 1:07Ray Comfort: Mark seems to have had his in 1994.
- 1:10Ray Comfort: Remember you were saying you just laid it all out.
- 1:13Ray Comfort: You just sweat drops of blood.
- 1:15Ray Comfort: You say I'm giving up the battle not my will, but yours to be done.
- 1:19Ray Comfort: And I think it happened to me two weeks after I saved, once the dust had settled and I began to become aware of what had actually happened, that I'd found immortality, everlasting life.
- 1:29Ray Comfort: This wasn't something to be trifled with.
- 1:31Ray Comfort: This wasn't just a change of lifestyle or a new sport.
- 1:34Ray Comfort: This was something worthy of my life being dedicated to.
- 1:38Ray Comfort: And that's what I did in that moment And that was my Gethsemane experience.
- 1:42Ray Comfort: Not my will, but yours to be done.
- 1:48Emeal Zwayne: Way down in the jungle where nobody goes.
- 1:51Emeal Zwayne: There's a boogie woogie washing woman washing her clothes, with a rub-a-dub here and a rub-a-dub there.
- 1:57Emeal Zwayne: There's a boogie woogie washer woman washing her clothes.
- 2:01Oscar Navarro: Scotty, if you can just cut that.
- 2:03Emeal Zwayne: Just eradicate it.
- 2:04Emeal Zwayne: Camp songs Oh, I love camp songs.
- 2:07Ray Comfort: Is that from the 1980s?
- 2:09Ray Comfort: advertising something?
- 2:10Emeal Zwayne: No, it was a camp song.
- 2:12Emeal Zwayne: When I was in high school I did ROP.
- 2:16Emeal Zwayne: You guys remember ROP?
- 2:17Emeal Zwayne: Nope, ROP classes.
- 2:19Oscar Navarro: Oh yeah, yeah, military ROP That's.
- 2:21Emeal Zwayne: ROTC, Oh pretend.
- 2:23Oscar Navarro: ROP.
- 2:23Mark Spence: The crop classes.
- 2:24Mark Spence: What's that?
- 2:25Mark Spence: The crop classes?
- 2:26Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, they do different things, Like they would teach you.
- 2:28Emeal Zwayne: so I did an ROP class in recreational leadership.
- 2:31Emeal Zwayne: And so remember, after you got kicked out of high school this is after I got born again and then got back in and then did one of those.
- 2:39Emeal Zwayne: Did you guys remember outdoor science school Science camp Sixth grade.
- 2:43Mark Spence: Yeah, the sun just went on this.
- 2:44Mark Spence: Did you do that, Mark?
- 2:45Mark Spence: No, no, no, no Yeah anyway, i loved it.
- 2:48Emeal Zwayne: But I remember the camp songs, man.
- 2:52Emeal Zwayne: You guys remember the one in the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion's lead to the night.
- 2:58Oscar Navarro: That's a Disney song isn't it, it's a Disney one.
- 3:00Mark Spence: Yeah, that's not a camp song Oh yo, yo yo or whatever.
- 3:02Mark Spence: You don't have to do that.
- 3:02Mark Spence: That's Lion King.
- 3:03Mark Spence: that's Lion King, is it?
- 3:05Mark Spence: Or I'm just a bill sitting here on Capitol.
- 3:08Oscar Navarro: Hill.
- 3:08Oscar Navarro: What was that Rock and roll?
- 3:10Oscar Navarro: what is that called?
- 3:11Oscar Navarro: I don't remember That show.
- 3:13Mark Spence: I'm just a bill, i'm just a bill, You guys know before.
- 3:16Oscar Navarro: Capitol Hill be same with the train one.
- 3:19Emeal Zwayne: Remember What are these Conjunction, conjunction?
- 3:22Emeal Zwayne: What's your function?
- 3:23Emeal Zwayne: That's right.
- 3:24Emeal Zwayne: Have you heard of?
- 3:25Ray Comfort: these, but it's good for you to feel like I feel.
- 3:30Mark Spence: Ray just left the building.
- 3:31Emeal Zwayne: But there's something about camps, man, did you guys grow up camping, going to camps?
- 3:37Emeal Zwayne: I did Church camps, you did Ray.
- 3:40Ray Comfort: Yeah, when I was really little, my parents used to take me camping and I loved it.
- 3:43Ray Comfort: Yeah, You really loved it.
- 3:44Emeal Zwayne: I loved it.
- 3:45Emeal Zwayne: As a kid I wanted to be like a camp counselor.
- 3:49Emeal Zwayne: Before I decided to go into ministry I thought, oh, that would be so cool.
- 3:52Emeal Zwayne: But when I went on that outdoor science school as a counselor, they made me change my I love Jesus shirt that I was wearing around camp Big old I the heart Jesus shirt, and it didn't even dawn on me.
- 4:07Emeal Zwayne: They kept, like the leaders kept, and then finally, one of the That was the secular camp.
- 4:11Ray Comfort: You said, oh okay.
- 4:12Emeal Zwayne: Hey, you need to take that off.
- 4:14Emeal Zwayne: I wanted to fight it.
- 4:15Emeal Zwayne: So, not legal.
- 4:16Emeal Zwayne: I wanted to fight it.
- 4:17Emeal Zwayne: It probably isn't, is it?
- 4:18Oscar Navarro: You going to sushi tonight right here?
- 4:20Oscar Navarro: Yeah, What did the bee say to the sushi?
- 4:23Ray Comfort: Wasabi Ha ha ha ha.
- 4:27Emeal Zwayne: Did you look that up?
- 4:28Emeal Zwayne: Oscar Straight from the heart.
- 4:30Emeal Zwayne: right Yeah, we got to get Ray to eat sushi.
- 4:34Mark Spence: I ate in Japan.
- 4:35Ray Comfort: I ate in Japan, went with mom.
- 4:36Mark Spence: He likes to sushi.
- 4:36Mark Spence: Well done.
- 4:37Ray Comfort: It's really, it's lady food.
- 4:38Ray Comfort: Give me a steak.
- 4:40Emeal Zwayne: Oh, sushi is glorious.
- 4:42Emeal Zwayne: Mark, when did you finally surrender your life to sushi?
- 4:46Mark Spence: Well, I've missed out on many sushi encounters.
- 4:48Emeal Zwayne: When you think back.
- 4:49Mark Spence: With you and Trent and Aaron and Matt.
- 4:51Mark Spence: You guys all liked it and I just was not into it.
- 4:54Mark Spence: I didn't understand it in the texture.
- 4:56Mark Spence: When was it that it just finally?
- 4:57Ray Comfort: clicked.
- 4:57Mark Spence: Well it slowly.
- 4:58Mark Spence: I started with California rolls, Which truth be told.
- 5:01Emeal Zwayne: I don't think is it Speaking of rolls.
- 5:02Emeal Zwayne: Why you rolling your eyes, ray?
- 5:03Ray Comfort: Because it's seaweed wrapped around rice.
- 5:05Emeal Zwayne: And you were thinking about it.
- 5:06Mark Spence: Ooh, yeah, I think my mouth you haven't even seen Delicious, delicious, but like a rainbow roll.
- 5:10Mark Spence: Yeah, Really really good roll, that's my favorite.
- 5:12Mark Spence: Wow, how woke.
- 5:13Mark Spence: Oh, that's what I get.
- 5:15Ray Comfort: Oh man, that's what I get.
- 5:17Emeal Zwayne: The rainbow.
- 5:18Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, because you get so many different types of fish.
- 5:20Mark Spence: My daughter, ella, loves rainbow rolls.
- 5:22Mark Spence: Yeah, absolutely loves it.
- 5:23Oscar Navarro: I love straight sashimi.
- 5:25Mark Spence: Yeah, yeah, you stick away from the rice.
- 5:28Oscar Navarro: I'll do some, but most of it like 80% of my order is sashimi.
- 5:32Mark Spence: Give me the fish, Just not like a large chunk of it, but whatever cut up really kind of smaller, medium to large size kids What?
- 5:39Emeal Zwayne: what Ray's getting bored here Come in and get me, get me Vaughn.
- 5:44Ray Comfort: In and out.
- 5:46Emeal Zwayne: I love to sneak sushi and a raised cereal bowl, have him pour milk over and just not know what he's eating.
- 5:52Ray Comfort: But raise the almost, yeah, i thought you were off the cereal.
- 5:54Oscar Navarro: I'm back.
- 5:55Oscar Navarro: Oh yeah, right I found.
- 5:56Ray Comfort: I found some cereal thrown in the towel.
- 5:58Ray Comfort: Yeah, i know I'm a wagon or I couldn't eat cereal because it wasn't good for me.
- 6:03Emeal Zwayne: Is it the cereal or is it?
- 6:04Ray Comfort: but I found I drink raw milk, which is really good.
- 6:06Ray Comfort: It isn't past your eyes, it goes straight to your mouth regular milk yeah, it's regular raw milk and It's good and then so I've got some cereals that I can eat.
- 6:17Ray Comfort: So I drown in cereal every day.
- 6:18Ray Comfort: Crunch No.
- 6:20Oscar Navarro: So, if you, what is your favorite cereal like, given that you eat it?
- 6:23Ray Comfort: because I haven't had it for years.
- 6:25Oscar Navarro: So what are you?
- 6:25Ray Comfort: subtle.
- 6:26Ray Comfort: For Wait a bit, you've seen, you've would have seen that Ray Why?
- 6:28Emeal Zwayne: not in years.
- 6:29Emeal Zwayne: Like have one bowl.
- 6:31Ray Comfort: I get instant heartburn Oh straight after instant.
- 6:34Mark Spence: Well, so it's a week by the palette Ray.
- 6:38Emeal Zwayne: How many boxes did you get?
- 6:39Ray Comfort: it was 240?
- 6:40Ray Comfort: You did really.
- 6:41Ray Comfort: Atheist on my a face book page was saying you liar.
- 6:50Ray Comfort: I had to take a picture of the palette of cereal and send it to.
- 6:54Mark Spence: That is so, you Extreme measures but what is the cereal of choice that you like?
- 6:58Mark Spence: now We do mix.
- 6:59Mark Spence: Oh, now I can't remember what it is So the in.
- 7:03Mark Spence: Minnesota we had the Mall of America.
- 7:05Mark Spence: They had a cereal store.
- 7:07Mark Spence: It was like There about a month ago or so and I told my daughter we have to go to the cereal place.
- 7:15Mark Spence: It's so great and I'm looking around, i'm looking around.
- 7:17Mark Spence: I couldn't find it anywhere And I looked it up and said it's been out of business for more than 10 years.
- 7:22Ray Comfort: I really want to, years ago, start a cereal like restaurant, but what you do is you have live cows hanging from the ceiling and you just reach up and straight into the Well, julia last night was talking about will she open the cupboards and saw frosted flakes in there and just Ah, sorry to scream it, and we're talking about how that stuff must have cocaine in it.
- 7:41Mark Spence: Something something about sugar flakes.
- 7:44Mark Spence: I used to put sugar on my frosted.
- 7:48Ray Comfort: That's so great.
- 7:48Ray Comfort: It's like putting salt on salt water.
- 7:51Oscar Navarro: I was all about the cinnamon toast crunch, No we still are at our house.
- 7:55Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
- 7:56Emeal Zwayne: Frosted flakes was my first encounter with like America.
- 8:01Emeal Zwayne: I remember the.
- 8:02Emeal Zwayne: Distinct memory, you I'm coming from home us every day and you know whatever?
- 8:08Emeal Zwayne: and all of a sudden I taste this glory of fresh pure sugar.
- 8:11Mark Spence: Did you not have to?
- 8:12Emeal Zwayne: cereal and live it on?
- 8:13Emeal Zwayne: probably not.
- 8:14Emeal Zwayne: Oh, we'd eat, like saying goats, curdled milk.
- 8:19Mark Spence: That with olives.
- 8:19Emeal Zwayne: I don't know Camel.
- 8:23Mark Spence: Camel with milk?
- 8:24Oscar Navarro: Yeah, yeah, would you like some frosted camel?
- 8:27Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but but you think frosted flakes so stupid.
- 8:29Emeal Zwayne: What is it?
- 8:30Emeal Zwayne: It's a stupid little flake with some sugar on it.
- 8:32Emeal Zwayne: There's nothing to it.
- 8:33Ray Comfort: Well, that's actually manner if you look up manner and see the description of manner in the other testimates definitely frosted flakes.
- 8:42Oscar Navarro: If you see the description it was sweet, and it was a flake.
- 8:45Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, buckle down, yeah all right, friends, enough of the stupidity which you're probably immune to by now.
- 8:52Emeal Zwayne: Anyway, here's a comment from Hello friends.
- 8:55Emeal Zwayne: No, that's not again.
- 8:56Emeal Zwayne: No name Oscar.
- 8:58Emeal Zwayne: My name is Joseph.
- 9:00Emeal Zwayne: Oh sorry.
- 9:01Oscar Navarro: I'm sorry.
- 9:01Oscar Navarro: Would you like to repent?
- 9:03Emeal Zwayne: Apologize on national.
- 9:04Emeal Zwayne: Televised podcast my name is Joseph Aaron and I want to tell you how you have helped my everyday walk with Christ, but I can't.
- 9:12Emeal Zwayne: I'm just kidding.
- 9:14Emeal Zwayne: You guys have inspired me to preach the gospel.
- 9:16Emeal Zwayne: At the beginning of the year, i resolved to memorize the gospel of John and I went to living waterscom and purchased 100 copies of the gospel of John to give to 100 people that I talked to about the good news.
- 9:27Emeal Zwayne: Keep up the good work, joseph.
- 9:29Emeal Zwayne: Joseph, praise the lord.
- 9:32Emeal Zwayne: Write us and tell us once you've memorized John, and if you do that and we see the comment, we'll read it on air and celebrate with you the gospel John.
- 9:41Emeal Zwayne: That was the first gospel I tried to memorize as a new believer.
- 9:44Mark Spence: Wow.
- 9:44Emeal Zwayne: I got as far as almost in the end of chapter three, as far as in, and then I quit because I was trying to memorize every verse and its reference And it got very monotonous, so I do it differently.
- 9:56Emeal Zwayne: in what version?
- 9:58Mark Spence: I knew American standard In the beginning.
- 10:03Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, All right.
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- 10:59Emeal Zwayne: Hmm, what would that seem like?
- 11:00Emeal Zwayne: the praying in mid air as you fall to the ground?
- 11:04Mark Spence: What is the prayer?
- 11:04Mark Spence: You know, daniel.
- 11:05Mark Spence: Your son said um, danny comfort, oh, excuse me.
- 11:09Mark Spence: He said mark, you know what You know.
- 11:11Mark Spence: There was a point where I realized you were a christian.
- 11:13Mark Spence: Now, bear in mind, we've been working together for several years.
- 11:17Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, we all had doubts, mark.
- 11:18Emeal Zwayne: But we.
- 11:18Mark Spence: We were on our way to one of our transformed conferences and we hit some severe turbulence, So much so where the plane took like a little dive down and I thought we were going down And so I yelled on the plane.
- 11:31Mark Spence: I said let's do this.
- 11:35Ray Comfort: And daniel was sitting right behind me.
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- 11:40Ray Comfort: I know it's not sorry, i, just before we change subject.
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- 11:44Ray Comfort: It's normally we're gonna die, isn't it?
- 11:47Mark Spence: Oh, yeah, or oh no, we're gonna die, I wouldn't raise traveling too close to the car in front of us or something.
- 11:52Mark Spence: Boy, i have to be the one driving This is what I've noticed.
- 11:57Emeal Zwayne: Yes, right mark.
- 11:58Emeal Zwayne: How did you give out tracks in japan?
- 12:00Mark Spence: Oh, i, should you say this is not culturally, since I mean you have to be culturally sensitive because of the culture, right, and so I wanted to look it up.
- 12:09Mark Spence: I'll head to get the accent No, right?
- 12:12Mark Spence: And then it goes like this Did you get one of these?
- 12:20Emeal Zwayne: Just like that, yeah and then you know the speakers.
- 12:23Mark Spence: Your throat starts to bleed after that.
- 12:26Ray Comfort: We couldn't give out tracks in japan and tokyo until, like we did some magic, it's a mess.
- 12:30Ray Comfort: I did a little bit of magic.
- 12:31Ray Comfort: We had crowds just saying, oh, take anything you got was amazing.
- 12:34Emeal Zwayne: Oh Sushi tracks.
- 12:35Emeal Zwayne: Oh that's what we need sushi tracks.
- 12:38Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, today We're going to go into the garden, the garden of mark and ray distraction.
- 12:48Emeal Zwayne: That's the garden.
- 12:49Emeal Zwayne: What are you doing?
- 12:52Ray Comfort: My microphone's been on all this time And it's me recording everything we say in the text it's about mccurdy Even says did you get one of these somewhere?
- 13:03Ray Comfort: I, i bit it.
- 13:05Ray Comfort: I don't know how to stop that on.
- 13:07Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, turn off anyways, back to the podcast.
- 13:10Emeal Zwayne: Today We're going into the garden of gethsemane.
- 13:14Emeal Zwayne: Does it conjure up pray?
- 13:17Ray Comfort: I preach the gospel in the garden of gethsemane.
- 13:20Oscar Navarro: It's one of the highlights of my life?
- 13:21Ray Comfort: Yeah, because we had the cameras rolling, we were going to record something and they didn't have it completely ready, so the cameras pointed me.
- 13:28Ray Comfort: I had this couple sitting there, though Obviously weren't christians by the look of them.
- 13:31Ray Comfort: I don't know how you can tell, and so I went through the whole gospel to the camera out loud, in the garden of gethsemane.
- 13:37Emeal Zwayne: It was a great story Yeah, I was there like this plants and that there's really weird looking trees.
- 13:42Emeal Zwayne: Olive trees, yeah, the houses of years old, yeah, old olive trees that they, they believe.
- 13:46Emeal Zwayne: some of them date back to the, to the time of christ.
- 13:49Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's this one that scott carved in it.
- 13:51Ray Comfort: I was here, peter, and then I left.
- 13:55Emeal Zwayne: But ray remember how gnarly seen my ear.
- 13:57Emeal Zwayne: Ray, remember remember how gnarly those trees were, though like I mean that's what I'm saying.
- 14:06Emeal Zwayne: They're all twisted and and ah you met gnarly, like the literal, like gnarly bro.
- 14:11Ray Comfort: Yeah, no, they were.
- 14:12Ray Comfort: Yeah twisted.
- 14:13Ray Comfort: It looked like they could run after you and kill you.
- 14:15Ray Comfort: Interesting.
- 14:15Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, but but I've never been.
- 14:18Emeal Zwayne: Oh you got, oh you've never been in.
- 14:23Ray Comfort: Galilee.
- 14:24Ray Comfort: We hate to go into traditional sites.
- 14:25Ray Comfort: They did yeah, you'd be driving in the the guide say that was the way to call it.
- 14:30Ray Comfort: He would say this is traditional site, which means we don't know if Jesus was here.
- 14:35Emeal Zwayne: So I didn't want to go there.
- 14:36Emeal Zwayne: That's why I love places like the Sea of Galilee.
- 14:38Oscar Navarro: You know, you're near Jerusalem.
- 14:40Oscar Navarro: It's definitely my bucket list.
- 14:41Oscar Navarro: Oh, you got to go.
- 14:42Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I mean it was a yeah.
- 14:45Mark Spence: I've been three times mark Okay you loved Israel.
- 14:47Mark Spence: Yeah, it was great It's.
- 14:49Mark Spence: You know, it's been said that two weeks in Israel is the equivalent of a full semester at Bible College Because it puts everything in its proper perspective, geographically especially right if you're going on the Sea of Galilee, heading over to Decapolis, the 10 cities, everything, the Mount of Olives I can see your you're facing, and Then you have, i mean, everything.
- 15:08Mark Spence: It just kind of.
- 15:10Emeal Zwayne: Together for you.
- 15:11Mark Spence: Everything's just visual in the head.
- 15:13Emeal Zwayne: Just make sure when you go there you drink from Jacob's well.
- 15:17Ray Comfort: Israel is Opening a preacher's nightmare, because everywhere there's stones.
- 15:21Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, waiting to pound.
- 15:23Emeal Zwayne: Jerusalem, jerusalem.
- 15:25Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, you who stone the prophets.
- 15:26Emeal Zwayne: Yeah boy, what were we thinking, ray?
- 15:29Ray Comfort: When was it been you who the way?
- 15:31Emeal Zwayne: Ben Yehuda.
- 15:32Ray Comfort: Street.
- 15:32Ray Comfort: You were the.
- 15:32Ray Comfort: You're the same one I just followed.
- 15:35Mark Spence: Oh, that was insane How long were you sick for after drinking that water?
- 15:38Mark Spence: two weeks.
- 15:39Ray Comfort: No, it wasn't two weeks, but it was there a room to rest your trip.
- 15:41Emeal Zwayne: Drink water from this well, from a spoon that or whatever, it was a ladle that like billions of people use were you thirsty.
- 15:51Ray Comfort: They'd get thrown down there.
- 15:52Emeal Zwayne: We got caught up like idiots in the moment.
- 15:55Ray Comfort: Yeah, the guy said this is the well, i can't imagine you getting caught up, samaritan?
- 15:59Oscar Navarro: well that.
- 15:59Ray Comfort: Jesus drank from you want to drink?
- 16:04Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy, anyways, so yeah, sushi Ray.
- 16:08Ray Comfort: Yeah, Jesus didn't eat sushi.
- 16:10Ray Comfort: And then we went to the Dead Sea easy and had a great time there.
- 16:14Emeal Zwayne: Oh, yeah, don't remind me, ray.
- 16:16Emeal Zwayne: All right, let's go to the garden.
- 16:17Emeal Zwayne: Let's go to the garden.
- 16:19Emeal Zwayne: So, garden of Gethsemane.
- 16:20Emeal Zwayne: This is obviously the scene of Jesus great travail, just before he heads to the cross, right after Passover, where we find the famous Last Supper scene.
- 16:32Emeal Zwayne: This is a dark moment.
- 16:34Emeal Zwayne: This is a very tumultuous, turmoil filled scene in the life of Jesus, and we actually find this in all the gospel, even Gospels.
- 16:45Emeal Zwayne: Even John cites it, so it's found in Matthew 26 and Mark 14, luke 22 and then John 18, right, all right, yeah, hmm, hmm, hmm, we need to get that.
- 16:55Emeal Zwayne: We really do so.
- 16:58Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, guys, it's a dark, foreboding time and I'd love to just open it up for anyone who wants to jump.
- 17:04Ray Comfort: Yeah, i say must have been frightening for the disciples, because Jesus was so utterly Confident and filled with faith and suddenly sweating drops of blood and being fearful and trembling.
- 17:14Ray Comfort: It must have been very disconcerting for them.
- 17:17Ray Comfort: What I like to think of is that I had my Gethsemane experience two weeks after I saved.
- 17:23Ray Comfort: Mark seems to have had his in 1994.
- 17:26Ray Comfort: Remember you were saying you just laid it all out.
- 17:29Ray Comfort: You just said you just sweat drops of blood.
- 17:31Ray Comfort: You say I'm giving up the battle.
- 17:33Ray Comfort: Not my will, but yours be done.
- 17:35Ray Comfort: And I think it happened to me two weeks after I saved, once the dust had settled and I began to become Aware of what had actually happened, that I'd found immortality, everlasting life.
- 17:45Ray Comfort: This wasn't something to be trifled with.
- 17:47Ray Comfort: This wasn't just a change of lifestyle or a new sport.
- 17:50Ray Comfort: This was Something worthy of my life being dedicated to, and that's what I did in that moment And that was my Gethsemane experience.
- 17:58Ray Comfort: Not my will, but yours.
- 17:59Ray Comfort: Be done, wow.
- 18:01Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah.
- 18:02Emeal Zwayne: And let's look at how it opens up.
- 18:04Emeal Zwayne: I mean, let's look at the, the account in Matthew 26, beginning in verse 36.
- 18:09Emeal Zwayne: It says in Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane and said to the disciples sit here, wow, i go and pray over there.
- 18:17Emeal Zwayne: And he took with him Peter and the two sons of debaite and he began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed.
- 18:24Emeal Zwayne: Then he said to them my soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death.
- 18:29Emeal Zwayne: Stay here and watch with me.
- 18:32Emeal Zwayne: We don't typically Envision Jesus getting this candid with the disciples, right?
- 18:38Emeal Zwayne: I mean, this is the God of the universe, the creator of the heavens and the earth, the one who spoke and all things leapt into existence.
- 18:43Emeal Zwayne: And he's looking at these men that he made, that he fashioned and formed with his own hand, and he's telling them I am sorrowful, i'm deeply distressed, even unto death.
- 18:56Emeal Zwayne: What was going on there, oscar?
- 18:59Oscar Navarro: Well, first, let me I love the way you just described that like the creator of these disciples is Jesus and they're seeing him.
- 19:06Oscar Navarro: You know, i think us as as Children of parents, there's often a time in which We we see our dads, like for the first time, cry, or we see our dads get cancer, and it's like this Hero of our childhood.
- 19:21Oscar Navarro: There's basically a moment, i think, in most kids childhoods, when they realize their dad is not Superman, their dad is human, really, and this is this is.
- 19:31Oscar Navarro: I think this moment in the scriptures Puts the incarnation of Christ on display, just as much as trying to wrap your head around the reality that he was a baby in need of care.
- 19:43Oscar Navarro: Because, you know, we like there was kind of a joke that was mentioned when you cleared your throat in the last episode.
- 19:49Oscar Navarro: You know it was like, oh, you know, jesus would never do that.
- 19:51Oscar Navarro: Actually, jesus did clear his throat, jesus did get sick, jesus did have dirt under his nails, jesus likely stubbed his toe.
- 20:00Oscar Navarro: You know Jesus was human as much as he was God, 100% of both.
- 20:07Oscar Navarro: It's important that we keep that balance less we fall into heresy and in this moment We see that on display.
- 20:16Oscar Navarro: We see him looking at and what he's looking at that causes this, this bleeding, this pain, this suffering, is really important, because Here's here's to answer your question.
- 20:28Oscar Navarro: So many people have died for their faith.
- 20:31Oscar Navarro: The Maccabees had died for their faith a few years before Jesus came under the scene.
- 20:35Oscar Navarro: Jesus disciples themselves will die for their faith and since then, many Christians have died for their faith.
- 20:41Oscar Navarro: And when those people are dying for their faith, they're looking at the suffering, they're looking at the pain that they're about to face.
- 20:49Oscar Navarro: But what does Jesus say in his prayer?
- 20:51Oscar Navarro: He does not say take this pain for me.
- 20:53Oscar Navarro: He does not say take this suffering for me.
- 20:56Oscar Navarro: He does not say take the nails for me.
- 20:59Oscar Navarro: He says take this cup.
- 21:02Oscar Navarro: The thing that brought Jesus so much angst in that moment Isn't that he was looking at his physical death.
- 21:10Oscar Navarro: So much as that, he was looking at the fullness of the wrath of God That every saved human deserves, and he knew he was facing it.
- 21:22Oscar Navarro: It was gonna be laid upon him.
- 21:24Oscar Navarro: The prayer take this cup is such an important indication as to what he was facing in this moment.
- 21:33Ray Comfort: Wow, wow yeah so that had happened, we'd have no hope in our death.
- 21:38Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, And you think of the endurance of Christ.
- 21:42Emeal Zwayne: Through this.
- 21:43Emeal Zwayne: You know, scripture tells us for the joy set before him in Hebrews for the joy set before him, he endured the cross.
- 21:51Ray Comfort: He saw this podcast.
- 21:56Mark Spence: Is that the cross or the hope He would?
- 21:58Emeal Zwayne: have said I'm not going.
- 21:59Ray Comfort: Father, not if it results in these And the.
- 22:02Oscar Navarro: Lord says yeah I can understand that.
- 22:03Oscar Navarro: Take this podcast from me.
- 22:06Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but the joy set before him, Mark, what would that entail?
- 22:11Emeal Zwayne: The joy set before him, I mean, that's what enabled him to endure all of this, You know.
- 22:17Emeal Zwayne: I mean, Jesus was no wimp.
- 22:18Emeal Zwayne: Of course there was the physical pain that was coming, but it wasn't that that was causing him distress, you know.
- 22:24Emeal Zwayne: But yet he endured it for something greater.
- 22:27Mark Spence: Yeah, well, i agree with the commentators that say the joy that was set before him was that fellowship that he was going to have, that the people were going to be able to have with him.
- 22:37Mark Spence: The joy that was set before him was this unimaginable relationship between the creator and the creation, that people were going to be able to fellowship with a God who knows what is happening in the center of Saturn.
- 22:51Mark Spence: right, it's beyond our imagination, but that is the joy that we as believers are.
- 22:58Mark Spence: the joy that was set before him That when Jesus took the cup of the cursed and pressed it to his lips and he drank it till every drop was gone, he did it so that we now can taste and see that he is good, that he is a good God, a good and gracious Father, a good and gracious God.
- 23:18Mark Spence: We talk about how, when somebody gets born again, there's fire insurance, but Christianity is so much more than fire insurance.
- 23:25Mark Spence: It's so much more than just getting out of hell and into heaven, that we are called into a relationship, and I think that that is missing in the midst of an evangelistic call.
- 23:37Mark Spence: We just think, well, great, i'm no longer going to hell.
- 23:40Mark Spence: Right, it's a ticket.
- 23:41Mark Spence: Yeah, it's that ticket into heaven.
- 23:43Mark Spence: Jesus is my password.
- 23:44Mark Spence: But no, that's not why Jesus came.
- 23:48Mark Spence: Jesus didn't come just to not allow people to go to hell We are called into.
- 23:53Mark Spence: Come into the holy of holy, that place where God dwells, and not leave that place to fellowship with God himself.
- 24:02Mark Spence: We are that joy that was set before him.
- 24:05Mark Spence: And so we see in scripture that when Jesus was inside the garden and he was sweating drops of blood I was reading a commentator earlier today that said that it was at that place of death, that there was a very good chance that Jesus would have died at that moment if the angel was not sent to strengthen him, that there is nothing more that can vex the soul than when you're at that place, in your extremities, where blood is actually coming out of your capillaries or coming out of the pores.
- 24:41Mark Spence: It was not possible.
- 24:42Mark Spence: We will never experience that, we'll never see that, we'll never understand that, that this is the great mystery, when the Father literally had to blink for the first time and take his eyes off of the second person of the Trinity to allow that wrath to fully come down upon the Son of Man, the Son of God Easy.
- 25:01Oscar Navarro: Can you walk us through?
- 25:03Oscar Navarro: Many people will ask was him?
- 25:05Oscar Navarro: his sweat turned to blood, is that metaphorical?
- 25:08Oscar Navarro: Can that actually happen?
- 25:09Oscar Navarro: Can you get into the details of that?
- 25:11Emeal Zwayne: Yeah Well, it's an actual metal cold term called hematrodosis And it's, as Mark alluded to, something that happens in very rare instances of extreme, extreme anguish and distress.
- 25:24Emeal Zwayne: I mean, think about it.
- 25:25Emeal Zwayne: We've all gone through times like that, when we've been distressed in our lives, the daintest Yes.
- 25:31Emeal Zwayne: Or we've seen people who are distressed.
- 25:33Emeal Zwayne: I mean, look, i've seen, unfortunately, martyrs who are about to be beheaded by Muslim captors.
- 25:40Emeal Zwayne: You know and those videos have played I haven't seen them sweat great drops of blood before they were beheaded.
- 25:45Emeal Zwayne: I mean, how much more torturous can it be to think I'm about to have my head severed But yet it didn't happen.
- 25:53Emeal Zwayne: So it's really rare, but it's a real medical condition that can actually happen And that just shows the degree to which Christ was in distress.
- 26:04Emeal Zwayne: And again it highlights for us the reality of the humanity of Christ, that it wasn't some illusion that he became a man.
- 26:13Emeal Zwayne: He clothed himself, robed himself in human flesh, became poor in doing that, so that he can go to that cross, give his life that we might become spiritually rich in him, and that's just beyond description.
- 26:28Emeal Zwayne: So let's move forward now to what happens.
- 26:31Emeal Zwayne: Then It says he went a little farther and fell on his face, praying and praying.
- 26:38Emeal Zwayne: oh Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me, but then, ray, nevertheless not as I will, but as you will speak to the significance of those words.
- 26:51Ray Comfort: Well, i'd like to give a quote from Charles Spurgeon.
- 26:54Ray Comfort: Yes, that's what we're talking about, and I hope I don't fluff this because it's so beautiful.
- 26:57Ray Comfort: To 12, no to 11 only was the privilege given to enter Gethsemane and see this great sight.
- 27:04Ray Comfort: Out of the 11, eight were left at some distance.
- 27:08Ray Comfort: They had fellowship, but not of that intimate sort to which the men greatly beloved are admitted.
- 27:14Ray Comfort: Only three highly favored ones, who had been with him in the Mount of Transfiguration and had witnessed the life-giving miracle in the house of Jairus.
- 27:21Ray Comfort: Only these three could approach the veil of his mysterious sorrow.
- 27:25Ray Comfort: Within that veil, even there, these must not intrude.
- 27:29Ray Comfort: A stone's cast distance must be left between He must tread the wine press alone, and of the people there must be none with him.
- 27:38Ray Comfort: Isn't that powerful?
- 27:40Ray Comfort: So powerful, just cutting them back, back, you go, back, you go.
- 27:43Ray Comfort: This must be done alone.
- 27:44Emeal Zwayne: Oh, it's heavy.
- 27:45Emeal Zwayne: And yet, Ray, he had asked if there's any possible way for the cup to pass, that it would, but then he uttered those words not my will, but yours be done.
- 27:54Mark Spence: I wouldn't have said the last words, adam said the same thing, if you would inside the garden to some degree, but with the twist not thy will but my will be done.
- 28:04Mark Spence: He excused himself from the marching call of God, and because of that we are born into the Adamic nature.
- 28:14Emeal Zwayne: Wow.
- 28:14Emeal Zwayne: The second, adam, takes it in a different direction.
- 28:17Ray Comfort: I asked if you took a breath, which means there's something coming Here.
- 28:20Ray Comfort: It comes the breath.
- 28:20Ray Comfort: Who, who, who, who, God.
- 28:21Oscar Navarro: God, this prayer.
- 28:24Oscar Navarro: I talked before about the incarnation and not forgetting that he's fully human, and yet this prayer has also reminded us that he's fully divine, that he's a part of the trinity.
- 28:34Oscar Navarro: Because this prayer is not a prayer against God, it's not a prayer questioning God, it's a prayer to God.
- 28:41Oscar Navarro: But it's also a prayer that recognizes the suffering of the plan.
- 28:45Oscar Navarro: But it also recognizes the sovereignty of the plan.
- 28:49Oscar Navarro: And the way in which he prays could only be the prayer of a Trinitarian son to a Trinitarian father.
- 28:58Oscar Navarro: And the way the commentator from my commentary says it.
- 29:02Oscar Navarro: He says like this he only prays, he does not demand, he does not advance any claims, he does not lay upon God any conditions, he does not reserve any future obedience, he simply prays.
- 29:16Emeal Zwayne: Wow, i love that.
- 29:18Emeal Zwayne: And what a prayer.
- 29:19Emeal Zwayne: You know that is.
- 29:21Emeal Zwayne: And ultimately, this is the very heart of the believer.
- 29:26Emeal Zwayne: When the believer is spiritually minded, you know, like Jesus said to Peter, you're not mindful of the things of God, but of the things of man.
- 29:34Emeal Zwayne: When we're mindful of the things of God, the automatic utterance that will come from our lips is ultimately not my will but yours to be done.
- 29:42Emeal Zwayne: But because my will is self-centered, my will is the easy road.
- 29:49Emeal Zwayne: My will is anything but the path that leads to the cross, which is what Self-mortification, death to self.
- 29:58Emeal Zwayne: But His will will include things that we won't necessarily want to choose for ourselves, but that will never allow us to grow in the ways that we should if we don't go through them.
- 30:10Emeal Zwayne: And so ultimately, a Christian says as much as I may want this out of the other, i want what you want, lord, because my life is yours.
- 30:16Ray Comfort: CS Lewis said in Gethsemane, the holiest of all petitioners prayed three times that a certain cup might pass from Him.
- 30:23Ray Comfort: That did not, Which is very powerful, isn't it?
- 30:26Ray Comfort: You'd think Jesus would have had sway with the Father in that sense.
- 30:29Ray Comfort: But often we pray for certain things that just don't happen because it's not God's sovereign will.
- 30:34Ray Comfort: He looks to the future.
- 30:35Ray Comfort: Who would have guessed what was going to happen?
- 30:37Ray Comfort: And disciples certainly didn't.
- 30:39Emeal Zwayne: And that's the epitome of trust, isn't it?
- 30:42Emeal Zwayne: It's.
- 30:42Emeal Zwayne: I can't see what's coming, but I understand that the one who declared that it's all going to work out is true, and so I'm going to walk forward and not become undone, because that's really the thing, you know, when we talk about faith and we talk about trusting the Lord, ultimately, what does it mean?
- 31:00Emeal Zwayne: I think, ultimately it means not just doing the right thing, but maintaining composure, and what I mean by that is, you know, we can do the right thing kicking and screaming, grumbling, murmuring, complaining, or we can do the right thing with a heart that says Lord, you're worthy of me doing the right thing.
- 31:16Emeal Zwayne: You're not asking me to do something that is like horrible and that's going to be destructive Ultimately, even if I can't see a good outcome right before my eyes, that's what it ultimately will be, because it results in your glory and it results in eternal affairs being advanced.
- 31:34Emeal Zwayne: So therefore, lord, i'm going to keep that right composure, i mean.
- 31:37Emeal Zwayne: That's at least what our cry should be.
- 31:38Emeal Zwayne: Help me, god, to have the right heart and attitude.
- 31:41Ray Comfort: And seeing over the ridge, seeing past the lion's teeth.
- 31:44Mark Spence: Yeah, amen, yeah, i mean it's wise to finish a prayer right And say I think I want this, but nevertheless not my will, your will, you see the bigger picture?
- 31:54Mark Spence: you know Blind Bartimaeus, the son of Timaeus, when Jesus said, what do you want?
- 31:58Mark Spence: And he says that I might see spiritually, jesus knew what he wanted.
- 32:01Mark Spence: But how much more would have taken place if he would have said and if I could see spiritually.
- 32:05Mark Spence: Yeah, you meant physically Yeah if I could see spiritually instead of physically.
- 32:09Mark Spence: You know where we have Solomon when he asked for wisdom.
- 32:12Mark Spence: What a great prayer.
- 32:12Mark Spence: He could have asked for anything.
- 32:15Ray Comfort: What would have happened?
- 32:16Ray Comfort: He had everything.
- 32:17Ray Comfort: He had her.
- 32:18Mark Spence: There was nothing left You can't have everything.
- 32:19Mark Spence: Yeah, wait, what'd you put up?
- 32:21Mark Spence: But what would have happened if Solomon would have said I think I want wisdom to lead these, your people, but, lord, you know better than I do.
- 32:30Ray Comfort: You know, you could have said I want more wives.
- 32:32Ray Comfort: No boy, no one can serve two masters.
- 32:35Ray Comfort: Yeah, right, or 200.
- 32:37Ray Comfort: You're in trouble now.
- 32:40Emeal Zwayne: Okay.
- 32:40Emeal Zwayne: So we see this now.
- 32:41Emeal Zwayne: Christ is crying out to the Father.
- 32:43Emeal Zwayne: It says in verse 40,.
- 32:44Emeal Zwayne: Then he came to the disciples and found them sleeping.
- 32:47Emeal Zwayne: This is huge, yeah.
- 32:48Emeal Zwayne: And said to Peter what I love it, the divine son of God saying what To the disciples What could you not watch with me one hour?
- 32:59Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, watch and pray lest you enter into temptation.
- 33:04Mark Spence: And he did enter into temptation and denied the Lord three times.
- 33:06Emeal Zwayne: That's right.
- 33:07Ray Comfort: So did it say in another gospel, they were sleeping for sorrow.
- 33:10Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah.
- 33:12Emeal Zwayne: And then I'll let you jump in, oscar, but let's not forget this.
- 33:15Emeal Zwayne: So we touch on it The spirit, indeed, is willing, but the flesh is weak.
- 33:19Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oscar, go ahead.
- 33:20Oscar Navarro: Yeah, again, here we are to really illuminate what the New Testament intends, what the author intends to show us.
- 33:27Oscar Navarro: We have to understand the Old Testament, especially the Exodus.
- 33:31Oscar Navarro: And so we are in Passover week, when this is happening, and remember that God required the Israelites to stay awake, because it was God who stayed awake, that did the work all night long and Passover, saving the firstborn of the Israelites.
- 33:48Oscar Navarro: And so Exodus 12, verse 42 is key to understanding, because someone might be like that's so weird.
- 33:54Oscar Navarro: Why did they fall asleep?
- 33:55Oscar Navarro: I don't get it.
- 33:56Oscar Navarro: Listen.
- 33:57Oscar Navarro: Exodus 12, verse 42, because the Lord kept vigil to bring them out of Egypt.
- 34:02Oscar Navarro: He now commands them on this night, all the Israelites are to keep vigil.
- 34:07Oscar Navarro: He was the watchman that stayed up at night to make sure that the firstborn children of Israelites stayed alive, and he asks of them, on this Passover night, to remember my work, your work is to stay up To hear the disciples all fall asleep.
- 34:24Oscar Navarro: They didn't keep watch.
- 34:26Oscar Navarro: What does this tell us?
- 34:27Oscar Navarro: It tells us that the work of salvation is God's alone, that He alone stood awake, that He alone holds the keys of the kingdom, that He alone was going to bring salvation to His disciples and to us.
- 34:42Oscar Navarro: They could not play their part, and so He played the part for them.
- 34:48Emeal Zwayne: What a touch of grace.
- 34:49Emeal Zwayne: And it's easy to overlook that We just kind of focus in on hey, they're falling asleep, they're not praying, but the significance of that and the dynamic of our God's faithfulness, even when we're at.
- 35:03Emeal Zwayne: I love it in the word it says and James, if we deny Him, if we are faithless, he remains faithful.
- 35:09Emeal Zwayne: He cannot deny Himself.
- 35:10Emeal Zwayne: It's like your unfaithfulness is not going to move God and what He is committed to, no matter what, that's good.
- 35:18Emeal Zwayne: And so then He comes back a second time.
- 35:21Emeal Zwayne: He went away and prayed and saying my Father, if this cup cannot pass away from me unless I drink it, your will be done.
- 35:27Emeal Zwayne: And He came and found them asleep again, for their eyes were heavy.
- 35:31Emeal Zwayne: I mean, again Jesus modeling for us.
- 35:34Emeal Zwayne: Right, it's okay to be candid with the Lord.
- 35:37Emeal Zwayne: Obviously Jesus knew that He was going to go to the cross.
- 35:41Emeal Zwayne: He knew this was going to happen, but in a manner He was sort of displaying the lament in His heart for what was to come and was communing with the Father.
- 35:54Ray Comfort: Easy.
- 35:54Ray Comfort: How do you think the revelation came to Jesus as a boy that He was the Lamb of God?
- 36:00Emeal Zwayne: Boy.
- 36:00Emeal Zwayne: That's a good question.
- 36:01Emeal Zwayne: I do often wonder what were the dynamics that came to play, because He grew in knowledge and wisdom And the scripture talks about.
- 36:09Emeal Zwayne: Was there still, though, that divine knowledge of this is who I am from the very outset?
- 36:15Emeal Zwayne: I don't know.
- 36:17Mark Spence: But when He was inside the temple and His family went on ahead, he rebuked His family, his parents, saying He's 12.
- 36:26Mark Spence: Yeah, 12 years old.
- 36:27Mark Spence: They should have known that He was going to be about His Father's business.
- 36:31Mark Spence: So there was some sort of communication at least between Jesus and His parents.
- 36:38Mark Spence: But yeah, that is an interesting thought and question, a little mind game there as to what took place in the beginning as He grew in that stature To be honest.
- 36:49Ray Comfort: He was a little boy looking at the scroll reading Isaiah, and suddenly his eyes become widened as he realized as who he is.
- 36:59Mark Spence: Yeah, it's been said that Jesus spent 30 years in preparation for three years in ministry.
- 37:02Mark Spence: When we spend three years in preparation ministry for 30 years of ministry, i saw a gentleman who said if you were he was asking the question if you knew you had four years left in life, how would you spend those four years?
- 37:18Mark Spence: And I don't think you'll agree with this one, ray, but it was just an interesting thought.
- 37:22Mark Spence: He said I would spend the first three years becoming fully equipped on knowing what to say and spend the last year heralding what exactly to say.
- 37:29Mark Spence: so I didn't mess things up.
- 37:32Ray Comfort: Oh, just keep on doing what I'm doing now.
- 37:34Ray Comfort: That's right, Get it Dan.
- 37:36Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and so then Jesus comes back a third time.
- 37:39Emeal Zwayne: So he left them, went away again and prayed a third time, saying the same words.
- 37:43Emeal Zwayne: Then he came to his disciples and said to them are you still sleeping and resting?
- 37:47Emeal Zwayne: We hold the hour as at hand and the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners.
- 37:52Emeal Zwayne: Rise, let us be going.
- 37:53Emeal Zwayne: See, my betrayer is at hand.
- 37:56Emeal Zwayne: What a moment that must have been Remember.
- 37:59Emeal Zwayne: Before this.
- 37:59Emeal Zwayne: They were having the Passover and Jesus said to them one of you is going to betray me.
- 38:04Emeal Zwayne: And they're conversing amongst themselves Like who is it?
- 38:07Emeal Zwayne: Is it me?
- 38:07Emeal Zwayne: And it's a.
- 38:08Emeal Zwayne: Is it me, lord?
- 38:09Emeal Zwayne: Is it me?
- 38:09Emeal Zwayne: And Mark?
- 38:10Emeal Zwayne: you alluded to Judas, teacher, right, rabbi, is it me?
- 38:13Emeal Zwayne: But now it's about to be uncovered and I would assume that they're still wondering is it?
- 38:20Emeal Zwayne: Who is it?
- 38:21Emeal Zwayne: Am I about to do it?
- 38:22Emeal Zwayne: I mean, peter's gonna learn.
- 38:25Emeal Zwayne: He was warned about the denial, like we touched on in one of the podcasts, and he still did it right.
- 38:30Emeal Zwayne: So it's like maybe there were other instances of the sort where Jesus would tell them something and they say no, no, lord, and then it happens like okay, we can't even trust ourselves, yeah, and then it's about to go down, but first of all being watchful and praying lest we enter into temptation.
- 38:47Emeal Zwayne: How important is this, guys?
- 38:48Emeal Zwayne: Being a people on our watch.
- 38:50Mark Spence: Yeah, you know, when Jesus was on the mount of transfiguration and he came down with Peter, james and John and they came across the demoniac and they're saying, hey, we are not the demoniac but the person who was demon possessed.
- 38:59Mark Spence: And they said we couldn't cast out the demons.
- 39:02Mark Spence: And Jesus said, yeah, well, this kind only comes out through prayer and fasting.
- 39:06Mark Spence: Jesus was not saying you know what?
- 39:08Mark Spence: Go pray, go fast and then come back and perform the deed.
- 39:12Mark Spence: No, it was understood that you should have been prayed up already.
- 39:16Mark Spence: You should have been fasted up already.
- 39:18Mark Spence: Jesus didn't say if you fast.
- 39:20Mark Spence: he said when you fast, it was understood that you would have a life of spiritual disciplines and piety in order to do the tasks by which God has called you to do.
- 39:30Emeal Zwayne: Wow, Yeah, and.
- 39:32Ray Comfort: Ray, you feel hungry, sorry, sushi.
- 39:35Emeal Zwayne: There's something that I do in my life that I call preventative prayers, and that is I pray over things in my life that I know I have a tendency to be weakened and to fail in.
- 39:46Emeal Zwayne: Like what?
- 39:48Ray Comfort: Better to restore to Oscar Pray.
- 39:50Ray Comfort: every time I look in the mirror, I have a problem with pride.
- 39:52Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but that's, i think, in keeping with sort of what Jesus is alluding to.
- 39:56Emeal Zwayne: You know, pray lest you enter into them, and that's a part of what he taught them to pray, lead us not into temptation.
- 40:01Emeal Zwayne: But often we don't have that hard attitude in our spiritual disciplines when it comes to besetting sins or sins that we may fall into, and it's like what Hebrews says you haven't yet been striving to the shedding of blood in your struggle against sin.
- 40:14Ray Comfort: Yes, like defensive driving.
- 40:16Ray Comfort: If you know what defensive driving is.
- 40:17Ray Comfort: It's very intelligent.
- 40:18Ray Comfort: It sounds like a pessimist, but what you're looking for is where things can go wrong from every quarter when you're driving.
- 40:24Ray Comfort: That can save lives.
- 40:25Ray Comfort: If you're driving at 40 miles an hour and there's cars each side of you, you're thinking about a door suddenly swinging open.
- 40:30Ray Comfort: What are you gonna do if someone steps out or a kid chases a ball right in front of you?
- 40:34Ray Comfort: All that's within your mind And you're ready.
- 40:36Ray Comfort: You're watching, Your attitude is awakened to it, And that's what we should be like with sin.
- 40:42Ray Comfort: That's good.
- 40:42Oscar Navarro: Yeah, That's crouching at your door waiting to devour you, but you must master it.
- 40:49Ray Comfort: Yeah, so as we start to wrap up, now we get to the Sorry, i can't believe how many people open their car doors actually when you're driving along So close to you and other people actually get out of their car while there's cars zooming about two feet from them, 40 miles an hour and they've got no concern for their lives.
- 41:05Ray Comfort: It just drives me crazy.
- 41:06Ray Comfort: So I just to get off my chair is carrying easy.
- 41:09Mark Spence: Right needs a hug.
- 41:10Mark Spence: Yeah, something happening.
- 41:11Mark Spence: this morning on the way up I read all the three people.
- 41:14Oscar Navarro: Yeah, was that a speed bump?
- 41:16Oscar Navarro: That was my neighbor.
- 41:18Emeal Zwayne: You know I want to jump to John 18.
- 41:20Emeal Zwayne: Wow.
- 41:22Mark Spence: Mm amen brother.
- 41:25Emeal Zwayne: And look at that account.
- 41:26Emeal Zwayne: Now for the transition to what happened after all this.
- 41:29Emeal Zwayne: It says in verse 18, verse one, john 18, when Jesus had spoken these words, he went out with his disciples over the brookedron where there was a garden, and the disciples entered and Judas, who betrayed him, also knew the place, for Jesus often met there with his disciples.
- 41:44Emeal Zwayne: And let me just say here for a quick second, i mean imagine being in a place with a lot of sweet memories, you know, and now you're there in this kind of dark scene.
- 41:52Emeal Zwayne: It says in Judas, who betrayed him, also knew the place, for Jesus, often met there with his disciples.
- 41:56Emeal Zwayne: Then Judas, having received a detachment of troops and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, came there with lanterns, torches and weapons.
- 42:04Emeal Zwayne: Jesus therefore, knowing all things that would come upon him, went forward and said to them who are you seeking?
- 42:09Emeal Zwayne: They answered him Jesus of Nazareth.
- 42:11Emeal Zwayne: Jesus said to them I am he, and Judas, who betrayed him, also stood with them.
- 42:15Emeal Zwayne: Now, when he said to them, i am he, they drew back and fell to the ground.
- 42:20Emeal Zwayne: Think about that, for a moment.
- 42:21Mark Spence: Jesus said I am.
- 42:23Mark Spence: He right, i am.
- 42:24Mark Spence: I didn't look it up, but is this in equivalent to ego on me?
- 42:28Mark Spence: You know I'm not sure, but what he said I am.
- 42:31Mark Spence: He could have said I am and you were You know, knocked him and killed him all, but he didn't do that All the way to the end.
- 42:38Mark Spence: he had a compassion towards people, sheep without a shepherd, and even healing Malchus's ear.
- 42:44Mark Spence: You know that last moment that we see, i am, you were gone.
- 42:49Emeal Zwayne: I mean talk about meekness to the utter extent.
- 42:53Emeal Zwayne: I mean think of what he said to Peter even after he cut off the servants here, my father can send 12 legions of angels.
- 43:00Emeal Zwayne: What are you?
- 43:01Ray Comfort: thinking So meekness is strength, under control, yeah.
- 43:05Emeal Zwayne: And you know, so we see that.
- 43:06Emeal Zwayne: So he says I am he and I would have loved to have witnessed what that was like, you know, and which end like being one of the apostles, or being one of the guys that fell over Judas.
- 43:17Mark Spence: Judas, malchus, malchus.
- 43:21Emeal Zwayne: Then he said again then he asked again who are you seeking?
- 43:24Emeal Zwayne: And they said Jesus of Nazareth.
- 43:26Emeal Zwayne: Jesus of Nazareth, i told you that I am he.
- 43:27Emeal Zwayne: Therefore, if you seek me, let these go their way, that the saying might be fulfilled which he spoke of those whom you gave me, i have lost none.
- 43:35Emeal Zwayne: I mean, look at that.
- 43:36Emeal Zwayne: You know he's thinking of his disciples, the ultimate in heroism.
- 43:42Emeal Zwayne: You know, you see, today, like people being heroic in movies and oh y'all, i'll take your place.
- 43:47Emeal Zwayne: But you have to understand this is God, not for people he loved, for his enemies, you know, for wretched sinners who deserved his wrath.
- 43:59Emeal Zwayne: I'm gonna cover, you know, to let these go.
- 44:01Emeal Zwayne: You've got me.
- 44:02Oscar Navarro: Yeah, you know, no gain to himself, yeah.
- 44:05Ray Comfort: I wonder if Peter was aiming at the ear, or was he gonna slice him right through his head?
- 44:09Emeal Zwayne: I'm pretty sure he probably was aiming for that.
- 44:11Emeal Zwayne: I wouldn't be surprised and he leans over and boom you know he got an earful.
- 44:17Oscar Navarro: Yeah, for sure, You know.
- 44:19Oscar Navarro: I mean to conclude There's there's three things we can take away.
- 44:25Emeal Zwayne: I mean, let's preach a stifle that means we have within 45 minutes.
- 44:28Oscar Navarro: To conclude, look, it's the.
- 44:29Oscar Navarro: These passages remind us that, first, god is with us Also, that God is for us and that God is at work without us.
- 44:39Oscar Navarro: God is with us.
- 44:40Oscar Navarro: One thing that we haven't touched on yet is the reality that anybody who's Experiencing struggling or suffering that is like why, when is God gonna do something?
- 44:48Oscar Navarro: Why doesn't God do something to stop this from happening?
- 44:51Oscar Navarro: these verses remind us that God has Done something, that he let his son suffer To the maximum to drink the fullness of the wrath of God, to experience that suffering and pain so that one day, his people would no longer feel suffering and pain, pain that one day, every tear would be wiped from our eyes and That we would be fully healed.
- 45:15Oscar Navarro: And with him, he has done something for us.
- 45:18Oscar Navarro: It remind us that God is for us, to the point you just made, and that God is in need of nothing.
- 45:24Oscar Navarro: He wasn't lonely, he wasn't without love, he didn't want the attention, he had everything he needed within the Trinity.
- 45:31Oscar Navarro: This is a sacrifice With nothing in return.
- 45:36Oscar Navarro: He is doing it as an extension of his love and compassion towards Sinners in need.
- 45:42Oscar Navarro: That he is in need of nothing and then, like we talked about too, it's God's work without us.
- 45:47Oscar Navarro: The fact that they fall asleep is a remembrance to us that God is at work alone in saving sinners, that there is nothing we can add or take away from his finished work on the cross.
- 46:00Oscar Navarro: We get to see, repent, believe in the finished work.
- 46:07Emeal Zwayne: Amen.
- 46:07Emeal Zwayne: Well said, oscar, and look it, as we've been Kind of flies on the wall, if you would, to this scene of Jesus in Gethsemane.
- 46:16Emeal Zwayne: Please, on the wall, please.
- 46:18Emeal Zwayne: Laos is lice, laos is Lice, lice, lice, please, please.
- 46:24Emeal Zwayne: Really witnessing what Jesus did, i want to encourage you to Soak yourselves in the scriptural accounts where we see Jesus living and doing, because it's through those that we really get a glimpse of who our Savior was, and it impacts our life.
- 46:40Emeal Zwayne: You know, peter talked about how Jesus left us an example to follow in his footsteps in terms of how he suffered.
- 46:46Emeal Zwayne: I want to close with this poem I wrote years ago.
- 46:49Emeal Zwayne: I have a valiant hero who one day rescued me.
- 46:52Emeal Zwayne: He found me bound and bonded and chose to set me free, although he knew the greatness of the price he'd have to pay.
- 46:58Emeal Zwayne: Without a hesitation, he gave his life away.
- 47:01Emeal Zwayne: I could not understand it and still I do not know why he treated me as friend when I had treated him as foe.
- 47:06Emeal Zwayne: If only you would meet him, you'd see that he is true and he'd become your hero and gladly rescue you.
- 47:13Emeal Zwayne: Come now, adore his beauty, observe his pleasant ways, sit silently and listen and fix a steady gaze.
- 47:18Emeal Zwayne: Hear him speak his gentle words that calm the raging heart.
- 47:22Emeal Zwayne: See him mend and heal the lives that once were torn apart.
- 47:25Emeal Zwayne: Hear his sayings of wisdom.
- 47:26Emeal Zwayne: See his brilliant joys.
- 47:28Emeal Zwayne: Observe the great and violent hate his holy love destroys.
- 47:32Emeal Zwayne: Come and see humility that cannot be compared, selfless generosity that gave and never spared.
- 47:37Emeal Zwayne: See compassion when he prayed and passion when he wept.
- 47:40Emeal Zwayne: See the truly righteousness He constantly displayed.
- 47:43Emeal Zwayne: He truly is a hero, and I'm glad that he is mine.
- 47:46Emeal Zwayne: Jesus Christ, the king of kings, the Lord of lords divine, i long to be just like him, for surely he is great to follow in his every step and seek to Imitate.
- 47:58Emeal Zwayne: Well, and so, friends, i hope that encourages you and reminds you to follow in the footsteps of the Savior.
- 48:05Emeal Zwayne: Learn from these lessons here.
- 48:07Emeal Zwayne: Be those who cry out to the father in anguish and and sincerity and candidness.
- 48:12Emeal Zwayne: Be those who learn to Depend on on the father's will rather than your own.
- 48:18Emeal Zwayne: Be those who are willing to sacrifice on behalf of others.
- 48:21Ray Comfort: He left us.
- 48:22Ray Comfort: An example was by memory, not read.
- 48:24Ray Comfort: It's very moving when I see that.
- 48:26Ray Comfort: And easy, you got a right to book with your palms And I don't normally like poetry, but your palms are just so oh thank you.
- 48:32Emeal Zwayne: Well, hopefully one day.
- 48:33Emeal Zwayne: Until then, i'll remain an idiot on the living water spot.
- 48:36Emeal Zwayne: Okay, well, friends, that's it.
- 48:39Emeal Zwayne: Make sure to check out all this stuff We talked about.
- 48:41Emeal Zwayne: I don't have energy to recant it.
- 48:43Emeal Zwayne: Recap it all.
- 48:44Emeal Zwayne: See, i can't even say it right.
- 48:45Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us.
- 48:46Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the living waters all together.
- 48:51Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that was the worst where we have no idea what we're doing.