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Majah Hype: Leaving Security Behind to Become the King of Caribbean Comedy · Corie Sheppard Podcast

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SPEAKER_03: I didn't get to live how I wanted to live with my dad.
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SPEAKER_03: Me and my dad were so much alike that we had love for each other, but it was like a a battle, constant battle back and forth.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_03: Like he's him, I'm me, but I'm him as well.
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SPEAKER_03: And um unfortunately my dad died like three years ago.
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SPEAKER_03: It's done.
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SPEAKER_03: It's done.
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SPEAKER_03: It's done.
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SPEAKER_03: My my my record is clean.
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SPEAKER_03: You will never be able to look it up again.
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SPEAKER_03: You will never see a record with my name on it.
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SPEAKER_03: I got enough beatings for three generations, so I don't beat my children.
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SPEAKER_03: That's well.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nah.
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SPEAKER_03: Because I get beaten for them already.
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SPEAKER_03: In advance.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So I don't really beat my children.
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SPEAKER_03: I spent three years kind of grooming myself as a comedian.
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SPEAKER_03: And they called me back to work three years later.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: And within the two weeks that I was there, I was just so miserable.
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SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't because I didn't love my job, it was because I felt like I was letting down the culture.
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SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna give us the laughs when we need it?
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SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna pacify the person that just got bad news?
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SPEAKER_03: And I told my boss, I said, I'm gonna take a leave of absence, and I got some things that I wanna deal with.
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SPEAKER_03: And he was like, what were you dealing with?
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SPEAKER_03: I said, I'm doing comedy.
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SPEAKER_03: And he said, you're a fucking idiot.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I step on the story, step on the story, step on for you, step on forward, step up.
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Corie: Mommy, look at the man that you don't lose the part.
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SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be sexy.
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Corie: The no show me the thing that I was doing in the beginning where I asked to like and subscribe, and it looked like that.
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Corie: So I just want to do that over, please.
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Corie: Bang! Welcome to the Cory Shepherd Podcast.
2:11
Corie: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
2:13
Corie: Thanks for all the new people who tuning in.
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Corie: Today I have with us the King of Caribbean comedy, Trinidadian Major Hype.
2:21
Corie: What's up?
2:21
Corie: Welcome to the show, my brother.
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SPEAKER_03: What going on, brother?
2:23
SPEAKER_03: What going on?
2:24
SPEAKER_03: Well, they say Trinidadian major hype, so how to start off so I know my brother.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's stay so you I see you do people want to know where you come from.
2:32
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
2:33
SPEAKER_01: That's like the first that's like the first question.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: You know, I went to four different countries and they said welcome home.
2:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, seriously four different countries.
2:46
Corie: Everything good?
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SPEAKER_03: Everything is blessed.
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SPEAKER_03: It's nice to have you here, boy.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we up early, we're drinking tequila.
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SPEAKER_03: You can welcome to the country.
2:54
Corie: It's a breakfast party, you know.
2:55
Corie: Nice way it is again.
2:58
Corie: Breakfast pet.
2:59
Corie: Alright, cool.
2:59
Corie: I just want to acknowledge, right?
3:01
Corie: That usually when I recall here, we talk and thing, and it's usually be me and the person alone in the studio, right?
3:05
Corie: So I just want to acknowledge the studio audience.
3:07
Corie: If you get wrong, the studio audience.
3:10
Corie: We have everybody up early today.
3:12
Corie: Boy, listen, and we as we every week.
3:15
Corie: Nobody, nobody don't come up.
3:17
Corie: Nobody not do.
3:19
Corie: Listen, I was watching it the other day.
3:21
Corie: I know any country for the CMAs to us.
3:23
Corie: I was taking a glimpse at last year's CMAs.
3:25
Corie: Yeah.
3:25
Corie: And you know what I was looking at?
3:26
Corie: Like for the comedians, sometimes the Holy Grail for the international comedian and American ones, you have the Grammys, the Oscars, or the SPs, and those types of things.
3:35
Corie: I was wondering for you if it feels the same with the CMEs.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
3:41
SPEAKER_03: No, because I never get enough time to do how I want to do.
3:44
Corie: Serious, I hear you said that for real.
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SPEAKER_03: So the thing is, the thing is, you gotta understand it's different when it comes on to our um celebration, right?
3:53
SPEAKER_03: Because you have many cultures within that award show.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, when you have when you have the BT awards or when you have the Grammys or whatever, it's mainstream America, and that is what they celebrate in.
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SPEAKER_03: So it's just basic, basically different genres within it, but it's mainstream America, right?
4:10
SPEAKER_03: Right.
4:10
SPEAKER_03: This now you have Booya, you have Soka, you have, you know, Compa, you have everything melt the melting pot is bigger.
4:18
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
4:18
SPEAKER_03: Right?
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SPEAKER_03: So we have more people to acknowledge, which I understand.
4:22
SPEAKER_03: However, as a comedian, right, I feel like it it holds it holds the show together, right?
4:32
SPEAKER_03: So so at the end of the day, I feel like um the time should be allotted to you know the host.
4:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if if if you watched um the BT Awards, they had Drewski this year.
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SPEAKER_03: Drewski had his time to do his skits.
4:49
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
4:50
SPEAKER_03: And I I feel like that's what people look for when they hear Major Hypers host in the CMAs.
4:55
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
4:55
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
4:56
SPEAKER_03: They want to see a Ross skit, they want to see Mitzi walk out on stage, they want to see those things, you know.
5:01
SPEAKER_03: But sometimes the time is kind of tight.
5:03
Corie: So yeah, I was wondering about it when I see Druski do it because uh like I flash back to I can't remember what the awards was.
5:08
Corie: I think it was a sporting Kevin Hart had host.
5:10
Corie: Yeah, and come out of that set of security behind him before he started talking about everybody, you know.
5:14
Corie: That was the first time I see people set up borderline skits in that kind of thing.
5:17
Corie: Because it used to be like straight standards.
5:19
Corie: Of course.
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Corie: So I was wondering if they would have made space for Druski to do his skits on the course.
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SPEAKER_03: Of course.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, it wouldn't make sense that you have somebody of Drewski's magnitude and not let him be himself.
5:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:31
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
5:32
SPEAKER_03: So for me, you know, that I feel the same way.
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SPEAKER_03: You shouldn't have major hype if you're not allowing him to be yourself.
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Corie: So, like how we like to claim in the Caribbean that we start hip-hop, right?
5:41
Corie: All our music is all start hip-hop.
5:42
Corie: You're taking credit for starting Drewski and these fellows out there?
5:45
Corie: I mean, if I was out there before them.
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SPEAKER_03: What do you mean if?
5:49
SPEAKER_03: Well, that was saying, if I was out there before them and they come after me, I have to get some form of credit.
5:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
5:57
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, and and you know, one of the things I like about Drewski is that he's not one of those guys that's Hollywood minded, right?
6:05
SPEAKER_03: Um, a couple months ago I was on my live and they was actually talking about that, you know.
6:11
SPEAKER_03: And um he he joined on the live, you know, big up, I like all your stuff, big up the Caribbean, all of that, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_03: So, you know, it it just shows that he acknowledges that, you know, he he he he saw the work as well.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: And you know.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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Corie: I wonder if sometimes he spaces you and if the if the Yankees is acknowledged our work.
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Corie: You think we could get him spaces to do Oscars and them types of shows?
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SPEAKER_03: Um 2075, yeah.
6:41
SPEAKER_03: None of us will be around to see that, but it may come and happen eventually, but not in this lifetime here.
6:51
Corie: I don't understand, isn't it?
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Corie: I watching Hot 97 the other day.
6:54
Corie: They have the hip-hop thing they do, right?
6:56
Corie: Yeah, but before the rappers come on, all they hear is Rupee, yeah, and Kevin Little, yeah, and Boojoy and Caribbean culture make New York.
7:03
Corie: I mean, it's part of New York, of course.
7:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, New York is one of the most diverse cities, you know, and um, you know, the everybody is there, right?
7:11
SPEAKER_03: Right.
7:12
SPEAKER_03: So you have to acknowledge the culture, right?
7:16
SPEAKER_03: Um, but for for us, I feel like um we have a lot of lot more work to do.
7:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, we made progress, but we're making slow progress, and they say any progress is good progress, right?
7:29
SPEAKER_03: But I feel us as a diaspora, I feel like we should be way further than we are right now.
7:35
SPEAKER_03: You know, there's there's there's lack of unification within our culture, there's lack of, you know, there's corruption in everything, but there's corruption blatantly within our culture, there's favoritism, you know, there's all of those things, right?
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SPEAKER_03: So for example, I was even talking to a friend the other day, and um, well, yesterday we were talking and I said because people are not a hundred percent sure where major hype is from, right?
8:04
SPEAKER_03: You'll never see a billboard with Digicel or B-Mobile or anybody with major hype on it in Trinidad or in Jamaica.
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SPEAKER_03: You understand?
8:13
SPEAKER_03: But the place here.
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SPEAKER_03: It's not even but it shouldn't, it shouldn't even be about placement.
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SPEAKER_03: It should be about the the the the the biggest name that you have in comedy, right, which is major hype.
8:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
8:28
SPEAKER_03: Why is it so hard for you to put major hype in a digicel thing or in a you understand what I'm saying?
8:35
SPEAKER_03: And and I'm not throwing stones at any names or anything, but I'm just using references, right?
8:41
SPEAKER_03: But it's it's more of well he I don't feel he's Trinidad, so I'm not a price thing.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: So it's not a price thing.
8:49
SPEAKER_03: It can't be price because all of them are money.
8:52
SPEAKER_03: It can't be price.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: Just take a little peek at all of the house you have in Tobago and pay me.
9:01
SPEAKER_03: None of them don't approach you, they don't talk to you at all.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: And and and that's why, well, big up to to Caribbean Airlines, right?
9:08
SPEAKER_03: Caribbean Airlines was actually one of the first people that reached out to me.
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SPEAKER_03: And and I I think it was maybe like the first episode, the first um um magazine that they started doing.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
9:23
SPEAKER_03: And they made me a feature in the in in there, you know what I mean?
9:27
SPEAKER_03: Um I I even got something with Flo from Jamaica.
9:31
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
9:32
SPEAKER_03: Um but for everybody else, it's just like we don't we're not sure, and we want somebody who is from there.
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SPEAKER_03: You understand?
9:42
SPEAKER_03: Which doesn't which doesn't really make sense to me.
9:44
Corie: No, because suppose you would have the analytics that show your reach in every territory.
9:49
SPEAKER_03: For example, right?
9:52
SPEAKER_03: Kevin Hard is from Philadelphia.
9:54
SPEAKER_03: You think they care in California if he's from if he's from Philly?
9:58
SPEAKER_03: Numbers.
9:59
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna do they don't care about that.
10:01
SPEAKER_03: Oh, he we never put up a billboard with him in California because he's from Philly.
10:06
SPEAKER_03: That makes no sense.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:08
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
10:08
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, it's a lot of and and and I feel like nowadays everybody trying to bring the partner and the family and the friend through the gate.
10:17
SPEAKER_03: But and there's nothing wrong with that.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: But is your team the most qualified?
10:26
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
10:27
SPEAKER_03: Or are you just pushing somebody through the gate just because?
10:30
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
10:31
SPEAKER_03: So it has to be, you know.
10:33
Corie: Well, you talk about the thing in the Caribbean, you know.
10:35
Corie: Caribbean is a real who-know-who kind of place, but it feels like from true, whether it's true you yourself on your stand-up, your social media persona, your DJing, your characters, it there's no Caribbean territory you don't get good feedback from, right?
10:49
Corie: It's like you know, must.
10:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, everywhere.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: That is us.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, I just surprised myself even when I'm DJing on TikTok or whatever, the people and the and the flags that go up in the chat, you know, it it surprises me.
11:02
SPEAKER_03: Because there's certain places that I haven't even ventured into as far as doing their accents and stuff like that, but I still get the love and support from it.
11:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
11:10
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
11:10
SPEAKER_03: Or I wouldn't even do it as much as I do every other, you know, and they still there supporting and representing.
11:16
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, it's a good thing, you know.
11:18
Corie: Well, the first time I come across it, well, maybe come back across it with you, DJing was in the pandemic.
11:23
Corie: Because I mean, you're home.
11:24
Corie: Yeah, yeah.
11:24
Corie: So at that point, the death, listen, you had to show them some clash and ticket.
11:27
Corie: Exactly.
11:28
Corie: You know, never forget, boy.
11:29
Corie: It's had a night you bring I shouldn't really say this my name.
11:33
Corie: It's had a night, because it was your Nori.
11:36
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:36
Corie: It's had a night where they bring on a uh a woman from I think she in the States, but she had Caribbean roots and Taurus movements boy from boy, cut out, right?
11:48
Corie: Put him saying Taurus, you see, yeah, it just says you say Bobby on memory.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: Big up Bobby, big up the whole album.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: One of the baddest songs who ever come up.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, salute, salute.
11:58
SPEAKER_03: You know, you know, you know, you know, one of the the one of the first people when I uh as a comedian that brought me back to Trinidad was Bobby.
12:05
SPEAKER_03: Seriously, yeah.
12:06
SPEAKER_03: He was doing a clash and he brought me as in coconuts, yeah.
12:10
SPEAKER_03: He got me there to host it, yeah.
12:12
Corie: It's gonna be the German song and um supersonic and I believe it's tourists.
12:17
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:17
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:18
Corie: It's good times.
12:19
Corie: I remember seeing you do that.
12:21
Corie: So that that them clash you're looking forward to them times.
12:24
Corie: But you know, more than the accents and learning all them accents, right?
12:26
Corie: I was always fascinated by the amount of music you know.
12:30
Corie: Because when I tell them just before you reach out, somebody call and they say, Well, Patra in the country, maybe we had to do Patra on there.
12:36
SPEAKER_03: I just actually saw Patra big up to Patricia.
12:38
SPEAKER_03: She brings you home.
12:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she was cussing about the breakfast and I can't make a bumbuckle and food.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: I said, bye, Patricia.
12:51
SPEAKER_03: Okay, now fuck with you.
12:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
12:56
SPEAKER_03: And then she watched me and said, Oh my god, I'm such a big fan.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: You can take a picture.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you sure?
13:04
SPEAKER_01: Listen, he hear them laughing.
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SPEAKER_03: And the funniest thing, the funniest thing, right?
13:10
SPEAKER_03: If if you haven't seen Patra in person, she's this smaller.
13:15
SPEAKER_03: Really?
13:15
SPEAKER_03: She's this.
13:16
SPEAKER_03: Alright, let me show you the picture.
13:19
SPEAKER_03: Even though we're filming right now, I'm gonna show you the picture.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you could so I could verify.
13:24
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
13:25
SPEAKER_03: It's like my child has signal next to my child.
13:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's small for real.
13:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
13:32
SPEAKER_03: A lot of damage on her little frame.
13:34
SPEAKER_03: She's smaller now, but the voice about our breakfast over by the hotel neighbor.
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SPEAKER_03: It's powerful.
13:40
Corie: What kind of fuck with this?
13:45
Corie: Well, listen, I have it as liquidity music.
13:47
Corie: This is one of the reasons people can't place where you're from.
13:49
Corie: Because you talk to Jamaicans, I don't know that a lot of them know old school Kaiso.
13:53
Corie: They know the segment.
13:55
Corie: So, where are you getting musical knowledge?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I was a people don't understand.
13:58
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so so I'm gonna give you some history.
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SPEAKER_03: Right?
14:02
SPEAKER_03: Before, this is way before becoming a comedian, right?
14:05
SPEAKER_03: But I play seven instruments.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: My main instrument is the alto saxophone.
14:11
SPEAKER_03: Serious?
14:12
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: Right?
14:13
SPEAKER_03: I've been playing music both by air and sheet music since I was eight.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: So what is the seven instruments?
14:21
SPEAKER_03: Any Woodwind instrument, because once you could play one, you could play all.
14:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: Basically.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: Right?
14:26
SPEAKER_03: So when I say Woodwind, I'm talking about an instrument that uses a reed.
14:30
SPEAKER_07: Right, yeah.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: As far as a clarinet, a saxophone, you know, those kind of, you know, then brass, which is trombone trumpet.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: Are you playing that too?
14:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:38
Corie: Yeah, man is blue.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
14:40
SPEAKER_03: What?
14:41
SPEAKER_03: A man as well.
14:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
14:44
SPEAKER_03: They just call me Breeze, you know.
14:48
SPEAKER_03: MC Breeze.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: Blue in hard.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: Careful.
14:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, careful.
14:56
SPEAKER_03: Um but um, yeah, I played uh, I played the piano, I played the drums, you know, the guitar, all of those things.
15:04
SPEAKER_03: So just self-taught out?
15:05
SPEAKER_03: You just no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
15:06
SPEAKER_03: I uh uh my grandfather had a band, which my grandfather is also one of the founders of Eastern Parkway Labor Day Parade.
15:16
SPEAKER_03: Um my grandfather played a lot with, you know, Sparrow and Clipso Rose, and as a matter of fact, he was also opening for Bob Marley the night that they killed Malcolm X in the theatre.
15:34
SPEAKER_03: So Malcolm X, his thing that he was doing was in the day, and then they were supposed to clean up the venue and Bob Marley and my grandfather would, you know.
15:46
SPEAKER_03: But unfortunately that didn't happen because of course assassination.
15:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he got assassinated.
15:50
SPEAKER_03: However, um my grandfather taught me how to play these instruments.
15:55
SPEAKER_03: Um if you know um Clips or Rose song Fire Fire He helped her write that song.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh, seriously, yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: Big song.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: Um and um I've been doing music ever since, right?
16:11
SPEAKER_03: So being a fan of all genres because my grandfather played all genres, right?
16:16
SPEAKER_03: You would go to a New Year's Eve ball and that my grandfather's playing at, and I would be the main attraction as the little eight-year-old boy that's coming out to play the trombone, right?
16:27
SPEAKER_03: So I would be up two, three in the morning waiting to forget my little solo to pee and go in your bed.
16:37
Corie: Trombone solo is a lot too, yeah.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, um, that was one of the main attractions and stuff.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: And I feel like everything in life kind of grooms you for what is to come.
16:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
16:49
SPEAKER_03: Right?
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Because as much as I'm talented as a as a as a as a musician, I ventured over into being a DJ.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: I played with some some of the biggest names in dance hall or whatever.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: I played with Massive B with Bobby Conders and Jabba.
17:05
SPEAKER_03: I played with um with with um Libra Love International, or I played with a lot of sounds, right?
17:12
SPEAKER_03: So um I was very and I c you know I come from the era where it was buying vinyl, right?
17:21
SPEAKER_03: And I also worked in some of the top record stores in Brooklyn.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: I worked at Superpower Records, I worked at Ja Life Records, I worked at Barry U Records.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: So my my musical journey was about knowledge and learning and you know all of these things.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: Plus, if you grew up in a Caribbean home on Saturday, I well, times change now.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: Some of all your kids were your ass cut.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: But when I was growing up, you know, some of all these little kids now need a bus ass sometime, you know what I mean?
17:54
SPEAKER_03: Because they ain't growing like how we grew up.
17:56
SPEAKER_03: Now it's a different time.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: When I was growing up, Saturday, we didn't leave, we didn't like Saturday.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: We was off from school, but you you wasn't just running outside and go and play.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Nah, you had to clean up, you had to go and chip, take out the take out the China classet, wipe them down, you had to change the two things.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: Your friend come buy a house.
18:15
SPEAKER_03: Can Nigel come out?
18:16
SPEAKER_03: No, what he has to do in front of my house.
18:19
SPEAKER_03: So you know what I mean?
18:20
SPEAKER_03: So not a change.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Put your friend to work too.
18:23
SPEAKER_03: You you you are nothing to do.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Come, come.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: Different time.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: Different times.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
18:30
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, um that that's that was the the the the atmosphere when we was growing up.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, we listening to all of this music, the Dennis Brown, the you know, and it was a mixture in my household.
18:43
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
18:44
Corie: Hey, quick one before we get back into the conversation.
18:46
Corie: Y'all always in the comments asking about part two, right?
18:49
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18:50
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18:51
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18:56
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18:59
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19:03
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19:07
Corie: Bang.
19:08
Corie: I guess because it was Massive B, when I first hear about it, it's Massive B.
19:11
Corie: So I expect any money say a DJ in the pandemic.
19:14
Corie: I think they'll dance all and double plays the clash things.
19:16
Corie: So and then I know you know the Caribbean, right?
19:18
Corie: You can't deny that by then.
19:20
Corie: But you could talk to Hoppy and them and hear who's sparrow and learn a few things because he was just saying the word sparrow.
19:26
Corie: But when I say I'm not sure.
19:28
Corie: Hoppy said that's true to that culture, you know, by Sisway.
19:31
SPEAKER_03: See that with you?
19:32
SPEAKER_03: I heard that.
19:33
SPEAKER_03: I heard that.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: And and uh um Hoppy never really been good since the accident.
19:44
SPEAKER_03: He's never been the same since.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: But you had to see with him, you know.
19:50
Corie: Hey, so I listening to you and you play.
19:52
Corie: I said, but when this man's on the black kaiso, you playing kaiso kaiso, you're going dumb ring dung singing along with songs and them kind of.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, I mean, listen, there's there's two main genres in the Caribbean.
20:04
SPEAKER_03: Careful again.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: This time for me to walk.
20:06
Corie: What's the two main genres in the Caribbean?
20:08
SPEAKER_03: The two main genres, in my opinion, right?
20:14
SPEAKER_03: Um is is Calypso and Reggae.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Right?
20:20
SPEAKER_03: Not even dance hall.
20:21
SPEAKER_03: Reggae.
20:22
SPEAKER_03: Right?
20:23
SPEAKER_03: Because when I was growing up, I would hear tiny whiny, and the next song might be Someone Loves You Honey.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: You understand what I'm saying?
20:33
SPEAKER_03: So at the end of the day, those are the two main genres for me.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: I mean, everything else kind of stems off of that, right?
20:39
SPEAKER_03: And even if we go further back, we could talk about ska music, we could talk about rock steady, you know, we could talk about all of that, right?
20:45
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, at the end of the day, Calypso is what birth soaker, right?
20:51
SPEAKER_03: So, and and that's you know, Gene and Dinah and all them things, lizard run up she dresses, all them things.
20:57
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, you have to know your culture, you know what I mean, especially for me, being somebody that stepped out on a limb to say I'm representing the entire Caribbean.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
21:09
SPEAKER_03: So I had I had was to do my research and know certain things, of course, from when I was growing up, but also going and digging further than that.
21:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:17
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean, to know certain things.
21:19
SPEAKER_03: So, and the mannerisms and all of these things.
21:22
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, you know, that's just part of the work.
21:24
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
21:25
SPEAKER_03: These I mean for me, I feel like these youths nowadays, they're not doing no research.
21:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't feel like they're doing research.
21:31
SPEAKER_03: I feel like they get a hot moment, they got a viral moment, and they run with it and they just go from there.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
21:38
SPEAKER_03: They don't they're not really doing the ground work.
21:41
SPEAKER_03: I I remember before I took any dates of a stand-up show, I literally sat down and watched special after special after special.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: I watched Richard Pryor, I watch Red Fox, I watch Eddie Murphy, I watch I watch.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: I watch Sprang Alang.
22:01
SPEAKER_03: I watch Tommy Joseph.
22:03
SPEAKER_03: I watch everything.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
22:05
SPEAKER_03: Just so I could kind of groom myself to who I wanted to be.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: I watch Oliver.
22:10
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
22:11
SPEAKER_03: So I always said to myself, you know, I commend and I'm inspired by them.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: But I also want to be me.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
22:21
SPEAKER_03: And that's when I came out now and started doing my videos and creating characters and talking to myself in videos.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: People was like, this man mad, boy.
22:31
SPEAKER_03: There's a mad man, this man.
22:33
SPEAKER_03: So you're here in one fucking video, this man mad.
22:37
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I live to see the day where everybody else is doing that.
22:42
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
22:43
SPEAKER_03: You call any name right now that say they are a comedian, they are doing the same exact thing.
22:48
SPEAKER_03: Not just Caribbean.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
22:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, once again, even just Caribbean.
22:52
SPEAKER_03: And the funny thing is the journey that God will put you on, you wouldn't even understand how He's grooming your journey strategically for you.
23:03
SPEAKER_03: Right?
23:03
SPEAKER_03: Because when I started doing videos, right, I was just doing comparisons.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: And I really wanted to collab with other people, but they wasn't doing it to my liking.
23:19
SPEAKER_03: So I said, you know what?
23:20
SPEAKER_03: I'll just go and play the both card.
23:22
Corie: Oh, so that was the intention first, to get people to come and do it to you.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I just started when when I when I like if I told somebody, alright, well do a Mitzi, they wouldn't bring across Mitsi how I visioned it.
23:35
SPEAKER_03: So it was like, you know what, I could just do it myself.
23:38
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm a very resilient person and I'm very I'm I I don't like waiting on people and them kind of thing.
23:46
SPEAKER_03: So I I love to, you know, be self-reliant.
23:50
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
23:50
SPEAKER_03: So I just started doing everything by myself.
23:52
Corie: What year is this?
23:53
Corie: You remember?
23:53
Corie: Like what year you first started doing it?
23:55
SPEAKER_03: When I first started, it was 2013, I believe, or 2012.
24:01
Corie: In the well then, you have in your mind that's Caribbean King of Comedy and thing.
24:04
Corie: What where to go?
24:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, I I I didn't give myself that name.
24:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, but the work that I put in, people started to say that, right?
24:14
SPEAKER_03: And I even tried to pacify it in a way because I'm not one of those people that that that is um arrogant then, right?
24:25
SPEAKER_03: Even when people started to call me the king of Caribbean comedy, I was kind of downplaying it and saying, nah, because I have other people out there doing things.
24:34
SPEAKER_03: So I was like, you know, um, I'm like, the reason why they call me the Caribbean comedy king of Caribbean comedy is because I represent the whole Caribbean, not just one nationality.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: That's I started down.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: But let me tell you something.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: I see king because I the baddess.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: That is why I stop dumbing dumb my blessings for all you understand?
24:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think badass out there, and all all you that doing thing, you watch me and start to do it.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, take a second.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: You see why you shouldn't give me the killer at 10 o'clock?
25:12
Corie: So let me deal with it.
25:16
Corie: People going.
25:20
Corie: Caribbean is a hard place to represent.
25:22
Corie: The West Indies is a hard place to represent.
25:24
Corie: Hard, hard, hard, hard, hard.
25:25
Corie: It's a it's a let me tell you what is it was it things they will say is Caribbean, right?
25:29
Corie: Well, voice have it, right?
25:30
Corie: Woman and Ram, that is one.
25:31
Corie: We like we claim that.
25:33
Corie: West Indies cricket.
25:34
Corie: What we say about that, we claim that.
25:35
Corie: Let me say CPL.
25:36
Corie: Let me say CPL for now, right?
25:40
Corie: But West Indies cricket.
25:41
Corie: But many times you see people try to be the thing for the Caribbean.
25:45
Corie: Right.
25:45
Corie: It's a very, very difficult thing to uphold.
25:48
Corie: Number one, because we like ourselves bad.
25:51
Corie: So when you say two genres, I get frightened because the people don't want to hear that or you understand?
25:56
Corie: And then the food people know it's a chicken curry.
25:58
Corie: We like to fight each other.
25:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, let me let me say this right?
26:01
SPEAKER_03: Just to clarify, we're not talking about the the the the other French-speaking countries and those types of things.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
26:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, because of course you have you know Haitian music, you have Spanish music, you have everything.
26:14
SPEAKER_03: But I'm talking about us on a on a different level.
26:17
SPEAKER_03: Let me just clarify that.
26:18
Corie: No, but the thing about it is you do any characters and they need to be Spanish characters too.
26:23
Corie: One of my favorite characters you used to do.
26:25
Corie: I know if I was at a dumb time in my life, is that every Wednesday, boy?
26:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: Let me tell you something, Papi.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: I don't have no problem with nobody.
26:36
SPEAKER_03: I just want the cool one in the dinero.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm gonna tell you something, Papi.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of people that are gonna smile in your face, but they don't like you.
26:43
SPEAKER_03: You gotta dance in their face like that.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: Everyone's again have a motivational message.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: Because I and I started doing that not only for my audience, but for myself.
26:57
SPEAKER_03: Because there was challenging times within my career that I felt like I wanted to turn the tower.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: There's times where I said, you know what, screw this, I'm going back to work.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm I'm this is not something that saves my life.
27:11
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
27:13
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm a I'm a master electrician by trade.
27:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
27:16
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
27:17
SPEAKER_03: I worked in in I worked in in in MTA in New York for for quite some time.
27:22
SPEAKER_03: We need really light in here in a dark and purpose.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: I figure it's a generator only back there.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: Because when you turn off one light, you turn on the other one, like you go trip the thing on.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: So that's your original look, that way.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: So so so I started off as an electrician and working for MTA and stuff like that.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Um also with Sand Hogs.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you know what Sand Hogs is, but Sand Hogs is a union that builds the tunnels for the trains in the New York City area.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: And I was an electrician down there.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: Um I got laid off.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: And when I got laid, I mean I've always been this jovial character, this, you know, this jokey kind of person, but you know, I was just doing it for fun at the time.
28:09
SPEAKER_03: And at the time when I started doing, you know, um memes, because there was no videos on social media at the time.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: It was just memes on Instagram, pictures.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: So I started creating memes and just put posting them and stuff like that.
28:23
SPEAKER_03: And when I got laid off, that's when the 15-second videos came in.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: And I started doing the comparisons and stuff like that.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: You know, like the one of the biggest videos I did back then that went viral was um the the the Labor Day trucks, who have the best or who have the biggest Labor Day trucks and you know, stuff like that.
28:44
SPEAKER_03: And that went viral, right?
28:45
SPEAKER_03: And um, I started doing, you know, the stuff, and it went from it was a back and forth between Instagram and Vine.
28:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
28:54
SPEAKER_03: Because Vine, even before the 15 seconds on Instagram, it was Vine that first started.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: Right.
29:00
SPEAKER_07: And they had six seconds.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: They had six seconds, so you had to get your joke across in six seconds.
29:07
SPEAKER_03: Right?
29:08
SPEAKER_03: All you listen up, all the young boys that have plenty of time to go and do video and edit now.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we didn't have that back then.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: Six seconds.
29:17
SPEAKER_03: You had to get your joke together and get it across.
29:20
SPEAKER_03: Right?
29:20
SPEAKER_03: Then it then Instagram was in competition with them and they did 15 seconds, and then from 15 seconds they went to 30 seconds, and then 30 seconds minute, then you know it is what it is now.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Um but at that time I was doing it and I was gaining traction.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, back then, to me, I don't know about nobody else, but to me, 12,000 followers was a lot.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
29:47
SPEAKER_03: I went from 1,500 followers to 12,000 and I'm like I'm a star.
29:54
SPEAKER_03: All you realizing is just the people in Brooklyn following me.
29:59
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
30:00
SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, um, they called me back to work.
30:03
SPEAKER_03: But as as as I I I spent three years kind of grooming myself as a comedian.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: And they called me back to work three years later.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: And they was like, yeah, we, you know, we got an opening for you.
30:15
SPEAKER_03: You could come down and work.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: And I went to work for about two weeks.
30:19
SPEAKER_03: And within the two weeks that I was there, I was just so miserable.
30:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
30:24
SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't because I didn't love my job, it was because I felt like I was letting down the culture.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: Because it was just like, all right, well, now you're leaving and going back to work.
30:35
SPEAKER_03: Who is going to fill that position?
30:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
30:37
SPEAKER_03: Right?
30:38
SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna encourage us?
30:40
SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna give us the laughs when we need it?
30:43
SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna pacify the person that just got bad news or, you know, got a bad diagnosis or whatever?
30:50
SPEAKER_03: And and it bothered me.
30:51
SPEAKER_03: And I said, you know what, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go back to comedy.
30:54
SPEAKER_03: And I told my boss, I said, I'm gonna take a leave of absence, and I got some things that I want to deal with.
31:02
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, What are you dealing with?
31:03
SPEAKER_03: I said, I'm doing comedy.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: And he said, You're a fucking idiot.
31:13
Corie: Yeah, this is not Caribbean electrician, right?
31:15
Corie: When you do an electrician work in New York, it's good money, union, nice job, and everything.
31:20
Corie: You understand?
31:20
SPEAKER_03: Benefits, everything.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: I live in nice.
31:24
SPEAKER_03: And this man called me to get back my job, and I tell him this man I want to take a leave of absence to go and make people laugh.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: Use a I don't want to use that word.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: And the man cussed me from the tunnel right upstairs.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: You is the stupidest man I know.
31:45
SPEAKER_03: You're dumb, you got kids.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Why don't you secure your kids' future?
31:48
SPEAKER_01: You're stupid.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: Why would you do that?
31:51
SPEAKER_01: You know, you had 12,000 followers, or I got my big 12,000.
31:54
SPEAKER_03: You did you telling he disrespected my 12,000?
31:58
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
31:59
SPEAKER_03: So um after that happened, I said, listen, well, just give me six months, you know, and if the six months don't work, then I'll come back to work.
32:10
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'll hope I hope there's an opening for you when you come back.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: So, what that did for me was put the mentality in my mind that no, not six months and see if it works.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: It has to work.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm not going back there.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: Right?
32:33
SPEAKER_03: I just put in my mind that job is not gonna be available when I come back.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: So I just said this have to work, right?
32:41
SPEAKER_03: And that's why I took things so seriously.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you think about the not to just throw anything on on the younger comedians, but if you think about it, a lot of them don't even have children right now.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
32:53
SPEAKER_03: They don't really have much responsibility.
32:55
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not taking nothing from them, but on like, I mean, of course, you might be helping your mother and stuff like that, but I'm talking about to actually have a responsibility where this mouth ain't getting fed unless you make it happen, right?
33:09
SPEAKER_03: And that kind of put pressure on me because I had to.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was real fast.
33:15
SPEAKER_03: I was real fast, 18 years old, just coming out of high school.
33:19
SPEAKER_03: I have a daughter.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: I I was real fast.
33:23
SPEAKER_03: Go be like me, yeah.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: Take your time before you have children.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: Keep your walk and keep your wire in your pants too.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Go go out there splicing the wire just so.
33:43
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
33:45
SPEAKER_03: So I, you know, I fresh out of high school, I had a daughter.
33:50
SPEAKER_03: Right?
33:50
SPEAKER_03: And um still kind of concerned about that because me and her mother have the same surname.
33:56
SPEAKER_03: So I kind of but you know, we didn't have to fight about who name going on the bird paper, nothing.
34:04
SPEAKER_03: You know, kind of kind of worried about it, but it worked out.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: She big grown now, so my daughter's 27 now.
34:15
SPEAKER_03: If it is, it is what it is.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: It's a good being uncommon, he's a real very dead man then.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: But they say cousins doesn't make dozens make good soup.
34:31
Corie: You know what I mean?
34:32
Corie: But um so you say that's it, you're gonna you're gonna make it work.
34:35
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I have to make it.
34:36
Corie: But I suppose with 12,000 followers anything again, you're following again, you respond from people, but they can't be making money.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: And this was grow no, uh well, I I wasn't making money at the time because back then it wasn't even monetization.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I guess.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't monetization on IG, it wasn't Facebook monetizing, it was only YouTube, and YouTube was giving you pennies on the dollar.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, especially for that.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: Right.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: So you was but the the the good thing about me is I know how to save.
35:02
SPEAKER_03: Right?
35:03
SPEAKER_03: So the money that I made from my electric electrician job, I saved up a substantial amount of money that that kind of held me down for the three years that I plus I was DJing as well.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: So I didn't really have to touch that money as much as, you know, I would have to if I if I was just depending on that.
35:22
SPEAKER_06: Right, yeah.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah, that's what I did, man.
35:26
SPEAKER_03: I started, you know, doing.
35:28
SPEAKER_03: And the first, the first call I got, they asked me, you know, it was about, it wasn't even about a stand-up show, it was about hosting.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: They was like, yeah, you know, we have um a part of the college um cultural, you know, whatever association, and they want me to host.
35:45
SPEAKER_03: And they told me who, you know, the um artist was and stuff like that.
35:50
SPEAKER_03: So I'm thinking to myself, all right, typical hosting, you know, that ain't that ain't not much.
35:54
SPEAKER_03: You you you bring out the artists, you let them do the set, you run back out, tell one two jokes, and you bring out the next artist.
36:03
SPEAKER_03: Well, this this particular show was so unprofessional, right?
36:09
SPEAKER_03: That when I run out, tell them a little joke and saying, alright, y'all ready for the next act, somebody was behind the curtain saying, keep going.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Keep going, they're not ready yet.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: They ain't reach yet.
36:23
SPEAKER_01: I said, they ain't reach yet.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Dead in the show, you know.
36:28
SPEAKER_03: I said, nah, this is crazy.
36:30
SPEAKER_03: So I mean I would be up there for my three to seven minutes, I was literally up there for half an hour.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: So just had a fine thing to say, just finding things to say, bro.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: That at that time, um, Grandpa James was one of my biggest characters, so I went and put on Grandpa James that came out, doctors pissed me off.
36:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, this is the Grandpa James, the soaker commissioner, and you know, all of that.
36:53
SPEAKER_03: And I'm just looking for stuff.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: And I when I did that, I realized that, alright, I did half an hour just now.
36:59
SPEAKER_03: I had a I'm doing 20 now.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing, I said, well, this is like a stand-up show.
37:04
SPEAKER_03: Right.
37:05
SPEAKER_03: So if I stri if I structure these this material the right way, I could have a stand-up set.
37:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, with you, I with you.
37:12
SPEAKER_03: Right?
37:12
SPEAKER_03: So the first actual stand-up show that I was doing, I did it on my own.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: I was at a a little small place that holds 75 people in Brooklyn.
37:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
37:26
SPEAKER_03: And I did a series where I was doing like a every Wednesday for six weeks.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: By the time it got to the third week, people was literally outside.
37:36
SPEAKER_03: Like the place couldn't hold nobody.
37:39
Corie: And you do this yourself, you book your very thing.
37:41
Corie: So you never do this circuit, like when you hear Kevin Hart and them come up, you talk about the comedy store and this and that.
37:46
Corie: You did that circuit?
37:47
SPEAKER_03: I yes, I eventually had to do that.
37:49
Corie: Okay, okay, but you start off on your own thing?
37:51
SPEAKER_03: Eventually, yes.
37:52
SPEAKER_03: Because I started well, I mean, when you're self-made, so to speak, right?
37:58
SPEAKER_03: Because I don't believe none of us are self-made.
38:00
SPEAKER_03: You have God in the midst of everything.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: However, when you're when you are doing your own thing and branding your own self, you have to make that lane for yourself before somebody else gets interest, right?
38:12
SPEAKER_03: You.
38:13
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:13
Corie: That's not everybody.
38:14
Corie: Right.
38:14
Corie: You understand what I'm saying?
38:16
SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah, I started doing, you know, the series and stuff like that.
38:20
SPEAKER_03: Then for my birthday, I did a a four-borough tour show.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: So I did a show in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I did um started doing some other stuff, and and and people started respecting the fact that I also do stand-up comedy.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: Um, of course, I wasn't as good as I am now, but it was a learning process, right?
38:42
Corie: But you say you study the game too.
38:43
Corie: So how you set it up?
38:44
Corie: You have openers and things, or you're just going out?
38:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had I had openers and features and stuff like that.
38:49
SPEAKER_03: So um, and and I actually strategically hired people that was seasoned comedians.
38:56
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: So they wasn't, they didn't have the name that I had as big as the name that I had, but they had the experience.
39:02
Corie: Yeah, so they're not guessing when they go out there.
39:04
Corie: Right.
39:06
SPEAKER_03: It also was a learning experience for me to watch them.
39:08
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: Right?
39:09
SPEAKER_03: So and then, you know, the pressure of you being the headliner is always there, you know what I mean?
39:15
SPEAKER_03: So um, I got a call from Canada, and a guy called me from Canada and said, You want to bring me to Canada to do shows.
39:23
SPEAKER_03: And to be honest with you, at that time I didn't even know what was the going rate for a stand-up comedian.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: So I feel I'm gonna rob this man.
39:34
SPEAKER_03: I say, I go and give this man an outrageous price, beat him over his head, and eat him.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: And I go eat this food.
39:44
SPEAKER_03: So the man called me, he said, Yeah, I want to do a show with you.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: How much you charge?
39:48
SPEAKER_01: I said eight hundred dollars.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Are you real money for me?
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, half of him.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: I said, man, I have you.
40:06
SPEAKER_03: And the man said, yeah.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: And I say, you go down ball, you go down ball me down now.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: What's it?
40:12
SPEAKER_03: What's it?
40:12
SPEAKER_01: You call it eight again.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: I say, yeah.
40:17
SPEAKER_04: He said, I want 12 shows.
40:19
SPEAKER_04: I booking all right now.
40:21
SPEAKER_04: I said, eight times twelve, boy.
40:24
SPEAKER_03: I said, nah, you wreck.
40:27
SPEAKER_03: Man said, you wanna book 12 shows?
40:30
SPEAKER_03: I said, nah.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: Like I charged this man the wrong price.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, boy.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: So you go take 12 shows and I feel like I boss in your head right now.
40:40
SPEAKER_03: I said, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: Sub me, right.
40:43
SPEAKER_03: But I was true to my word.
40:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh, that's the the the numbers that I quoted, so I did the shows.
40:49
SPEAKER_03: And me and this guy became not only business partners, but we became brothers.
40:55
SPEAKER_03: Right.
40:55
SPEAKER_03: Right?
40:55
SPEAKER_03: His name is Wes Hype.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: Big up to West Hype, Juice Cup Comedy in Canada, Toronto.
41:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, he's still part of my team.
41:03
SPEAKER_03: We actually started off my my um tour this year um in Canada.
41:09
SPEAKER_03: All the shows were sold out every last show.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, from Winnipeg to Edmonton to Calgary to to um Mississauga to Toronto, every show.
41:20
SPEAKER_03: You know, and um and even for shows like those, is diaspora mostly, or or or what's your audience like for me, being that I'm Caribbean, however, I am I am I'm in America.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
41:36
SPEAKER_03: I have a I have a very um integrated audience, right?
41:43
SPEAKER_03: If you look at my analytics, more people in the states follow me than than in the Caribbean.
41:51
SPEAKER_03: Because well Yeah, just on share numbers.
41:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I mean those people are more relatable to my work because I tell the story of the of the kid that was raised in a a Caribbean home but living in America, right?
42:10
SPEAKER_03: That's the that's kind of the story that I tell.
42:13
SPEAKER_03: And um a lot of people relate to that because you know a lot of those kids is born in America, but they have Caribbean parents.
42:19
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
42:20
SPEAKER_03: I come from the era where it wasn't cool to be Caribbean in America.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: Do you understand?
42:25
SPEAKER_03: When when I was going to high school, you know, it was uh it was uh use a coconut, banana boat, use a Haitian booty scratcher, yeah, all them stupid names, you know what I mean.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: These kids would never understand what we dealt with as Caribbean kids going to the going abroad.
42:44
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah, yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_03: Right?
42:45
SPEAKER_03: So they don't they wouldn't understand that because now they have it way easier, you know, and we live in a society now where you know everything is offensive.
42:53
SPEAKER_06: True.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
42:55
SPEAKER_03: Um but that was what it was.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: When I I went to high school in in Brooklyn, I went to Erasmus Hall, right?
43:02
SPEAKER_03: And that's a school for performing arts.
43:05
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
43:05
SPEAKER_03: Right?
43:06
SPEAKER_03: Um the Bedford Avenue side of Erasmus was the humanity humanities side, right?
43:15
SPEAKER_03: And the Flatbush Avenue side was more of math and science and business and stuff like that.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: Isn't a high school, it's separate.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: So the the Erasmus School is like one of the biggest schools in Brooklyn, right?
43:30
SPEAKER_03: It has a campus, everything.
43:31
SPEAKER_03: Gotcha, right?
43:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was even a college at one point.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Um but um the Bedford Avenue side of that school was the Caribbean side.
43:46
SPEAKER_03: The Flatbush Avenue side was the American side.
43:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:51
SPEAKER_03: I come from the era where Haitians was telling people they was Jamaican.
43:57
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't cool to be Haitian once upon.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: I remember as a Caribbean child bucking up on Haitians and like, you know, because it started to be like a rivalry at one point.
44:11
SPEAKER_03: Like we Caribbean over here, we had to represent for us.
44:13
SPEAKER_03: We busting your head, big stone over.
44:16
SPEAKER_03: Because we remember.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: You have to remember in America, they don't fight like we, right?
44:20
SPEAKER_03: Them, them, them, them, square up.
44:22
SPEAKER_03: It's square up.
44:23
SPEAKER_03: We we ringing your heads, we poking your eyes, we ringing your balls, or stamped.
44:28
SPEAKER_03: We did whatever we have to do to win this fight.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: We kicking your organ, you understand?
44:34
SPEAKER_03: They didn't understand that.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: So when we fight.
44:37
SPEAKER_03: I remember one time these guys told me, three o'clock, we're gonna bust your asses.
44:41
SPEAKER_03: I said, Me?
44:42
SPEAKER_03: My ass?
44:43
SPEAKER_03: My good, good ass.
44:45
SPEAKER_03: I said, good.
44:47
SPEAKER_03: I left school, find two five-pound stone, put it behind a tree, and went back in school, you know.
44:56
SPEAKER_03: Cause the only way these kids will not bother you is if you make an example.
45:01
SPEAKER_03: And I remember my grandfather always used to tell me, if they gang in here, just hold one.
45:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just want to catch one.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: Let everybody else beat you, but you see that one he's paying for all their licks you gain.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: And let me tell you, buddy, I fixed this one youth.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: And the next day when I went to school, that man, he the amount of wave he waved to, I say he's like the flag on the highway.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: You see that picture, that flag on the highway.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: That's how he waved to me every every time he sees me waving.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: I said, but what wrong with this?
45:35
SPEAKER_03: And I I when you what I learned back then was if you if you stand up for yourself, you'll be respected.
45:43
SPEAKER_03: And I I took that with me from that day up until today.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: And I still stand by it.
45:50
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
45:51
SPEAKER_03: Um being humble is one thing, but I also don't believe in dumbing down your blessings to make anybody else comfortable.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_03: You had to be yourself.
46:02
SPEAKER_03: You have to be you.
46:03
SPEAKER_03: And and if you praise the God that I praise, God doesn't tell us to be ashamed to call his name and to express the blessings that he bestowed upon us, right?
46:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, of course.
46:15
SPEAKER_03: So for me, I I'm not I'm no longer the person who is going to because being humble doesn't mean that you have to lower your your um your blessings.
46:30
SPEAKER_03: Right?
46:31
SPEAKER_03: Because there's people that will be affected by your talent and your gifts and your blessings.
46:36
Corie: Yeah, maybe even unbeknownst to you.
46:37
SPEAKER_03: You might not even know you on and they're taking you on a big time.
46:42
SPEAKER_03: This man fully freaking self and you you twisting it as I just doing my thing.
46:46
Corie: Don't forget you could also reach out to us to advertise on the show and have your brand place here, anywhere here.
46:53
Corie: You could get your brand.
46:54
Corie: So don't just call to get on the show, right?
46:56
Corie: We'll call and get on the show to we know you have big brands and you do great work in this country.
47:00
Corie: But don't forget you could also advertise with us to help support the stories of our countries and our region going out to everybody.
47:08
Corie: Help you out.
47:09
Corie: Just call your friend, don't just call David to come on the show.
47:12
Corie: Advertise, you know what I mean?
47:14
Corie: Pay, spend.
47:15
Corie: How are we going?
47:16
Corie: Which way are we going back?
47:17
Corie: How does this go back this way?
47:18
Corie: Back to the conversation.
47:20
Corie: And that's what I mean when I say the Caribbean, because we're people like that.
47:22
Corie: So when you say king of comedy, people will say Oliver Samuels, Tommy Joseph, Sprang Alang, Larry Joseph.
47:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, the thing, the thing with me is I respect and value all of those names.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: Right?
47:36
SPEAKER_03: And there's different generations of kings.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
47:40
Corie: So it's not Cartel, Binyman kind of thing then?
47:42
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: Well, I ain't going into that.
47:48
SPEAKER_03: I had something to say, but I will not go into that.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: Hey, take a silly.
47:55
SPEAKER_03: I believe, I believe that there could be multiple kings.
48:00
SPEAKER_03: Right?
48:01
SPEAKER_03: Now, I was also one of the people who was advocating for trying to do a tour for us as Caribbean comedians, kings of the Caribbean comedy.
48:13
SPEAKER_03: Kings.
48:14
SPEAKER_03: Not king and Jester and everybody.
48:18
SPEAKER_03: It's kings.
48:20
SPEAKER_03: Which means everybody is a king in their own right.
48:22
SPEAKER_03: Okay, with you.
48:23
SPEAKER_03: Right?
48:23
SPEAKER_03: So like Dale Hugh Glain them then when uh Steve Harvey had a kick.
48:26
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
48:27
SPEAKER_03: Same kind of thing.
48:27
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
48:28
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
48:28
SPEAKER_03: You understand what I'm saying?
48:29
SPEAKER_03: So I mean you have to be confident in your own self to even be a part of that.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: And there's many comedians who will not be a part of that because they're not confident in themselves.
48:41
Corie: You think that's what it is?
48:42
Corie: So when you talk to people, you get pushback from it in these circuits of Caribbean, people who is comedians.
48:47
Corie: Even the younger generation, coming off of Tommy and them, you have people like you have the racial price of this world, Nikki Crosby, people who do it bellow and blacker, you know, they might have come.
48:57
Corie: We could take a break.
49:04
SPEAKER_03: I don't know about the other name you called it, but.
49:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, bellow and blacker no?
49:07
SPEAKER_03: No, no, that one.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: Another stupid name you called, but is that who?
49:15
SPEAKER_03: Tell me people look into a game.
49:19
SPEAKER_03: You call some name there.
49:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
49:23
SPEAKER_03: But big up Nicky Crosby, yeah.
49:30
SPEAKER_03: We go talk.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: Let me talk with sense now.
49:32
SPEAKER_03: We talk with people that have sense.
49:34
SPEAKER_03: We have three cameras.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: How much cameras we have?
49:36
SPEAKER_03: We've already watched your walk off.
49:42
Corie: So let me try that question again, right?
49:44
Corie: Yeah, the generation of the media.
49:46
Corie: True the intent and true thing.
49:48
Corie: You know what I mean?
49:48
Corie: They did bellow and black and them in Jamaica, yeah.
49:50
Corie: Rachel Price here, Nikki Crosby.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, no, like every time you mention this name, I hear a buzz.
50:05
SPEAKER_03: Like you said one name and then it buzzed, and then you said Nikki Crosby.
50:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't anyway.
50:10
Corie: Well, listen, I I watched you the other day, right on Sisway.
50:14
Corie: Salute to Sisway.
50:14
Corie: I like Sisway podcast, you know.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, shout to you.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what try to set more, but is it?
50:18
Corie: I know that name, you know that name, you're that one.
50:20
Corie: Try to set more.
50:21
SPEAKER_03: So when you certain name you don't hear, yeah, certain names are it just don't register.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, I hear Maximo.
50:27
SPEAKER_03: You used to watch Charlie Brown?
50:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you remember we used to be like, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
50:32
SPEAKER_03: That's what that's what I heard when you said.
50:37
Corie: Well, when you say kings are comedy, that is her name come to mind because she's one of the giants in Caribbean comedy, too.
50:42
Corie: So I see if you put together and Rachel.
50:47
SPEAKER_03: Nikki Crosby can't be a king uh uh comedy, she had to be a queen.
50:50
SPEAKER_03: So we're doing a queens too.
50:52
SPEAKER_03: Me?
50:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, queens are comedy.
50:55
SPEAKER_03: I'm not there no more, bro.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: I not in that, I'm not in that.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: You see that helpful feel?
51:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm not in that helpful feel no more.
51:02
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: I learned my lesson with this business.
51:04
Corie: So what I'm telling you and Rachel, you and Rachel was good.
51:08
Corie: I remember taking are you watching it a long time though?
51:10
Corie: You and Rachel was good.
51:19
Corie: This is a place of peace, no.
51:20
Corie: Blessed be the peacemaker.
51:22
SPEAKER_03: I could talk now because it is no longer uh uh a law thing.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: I wasn't talking about my my situation or anything because I was still on probation and I couldn't talk about one of the stipulations of my probation was I couldn't speak about the case.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: I could speak about it now because they gave me early release.
51:43
SPEAKER_03: I was supposed to be on it for five years, but now they took me off in three years.
51:46
Corie: Oh, that's good.
51:47
Corie: So it's it's done.
51:48
Corie: Yes, it's done.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: This is all domestic things.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: It's done.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, good, good.
51:52
SPEAKER_03: My record is clean.
51:53
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
51:53
SPEAKER_03: You will never be able to look it up again.
51:55
SPEAKER_03: You will never see a record with my name on it or anything of such.
51:59
SPEAKER_03: Only thing you will see is is the YouTube vloggers and whosoever.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: But I will say this the reason why I have an issue with the young ladies, well, the old lady's name that you call is because she all right, so my problem is this, right?
52:19
SPEAKER_03: If a situation arises and people hear one side of the story, and they already make their assumption based on that one side of the story, they already wanted to believe what they wanted to believe about you.
52:38
SPEAKER_03: I never told my side of the story.
52:41
SPEAKER_03: I never really went into it or anything of such.
52:43
SPEAKER_03: I I addressed it once because the girl kept on coming out and trying to drag my name more and more and more.
52:49
SPEAKER_03: Right?
52:50
SPEAKER_03: So I addressed it once and I didn't speak about it again.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: And I'm sitting in my house.
52:55
SPEAKER_03: Now remember, this is something that I I dealt with that was very detrimental to me.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: It was it was trauma, traumatic, it was lies, it was scandal, it was somebody trying to really tarnish my name.
53:12
SPEAKER_03: And um I watched my life flash within within seconds, within minutes.
53:24
SPEAKER_03: And remember, I as I said earlier, I left my good, good work to pursue this.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: Right?
53:34
SPEAKER_03: So, and as I was saying to you, there was no turning back.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: So if somebody was trying to drag my career and drag my name and my brand and and and my my integrity, I'm I'm I'm expecting, and and and when the person set out to do this, I told them, I said, listen, the Caribbean will eat you up for this.
53:56
SPEAKER_03: They will eat you up for this because they me, they they never hear my name in no back and all.
54:02
SPEAKER_03: They know I'm only a person who uplift and positive and they turn around and say, Boy, that man wicked boy.
54:13
SPEAKER_04: Nah, we have to bring him down.
54:14
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no.
54:16
SPEAKER_04: He's a wicked man.
54:17
SPEAKER_04: That girl, you do that to that girl.
54:19
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Wait.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: They take in her side.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: So all they really feel that is me.
54:27
SPEAKER_03: And it really broke my heart to think that they would even think that.
54:32
SPEAKER_03: First of all, if you were a red woman, let me keep it real.
54:36
SPEAKER_03: You would have a red woman, right?
54:38
SPEAKER_03: This woman weigh 115 pounds soaking wet.
54:43
SPEAKER_03: Right?
54:44
SPEAKER_03: I am 6'1.
54:48
SPEAKER_03: Back then, I probably was about 230 pounds.
54:53
SPEAKER_03: If I was cutting this lady ass every day, you don't feel she'd have looked a kind of how?
54:58
SPEAKER_03: You don't feel she'd have been bruised up.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: You know, and and we talking about somebody who was a police officer.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: A police officer, her mother is a retired police as well.
55:10
SPEAKER_03: You telling me that this big strong back man cutting your daughter's skin, and you as a retired police, and she as a police, all they don't know how to go about doing it.
55:22
SPEAKER_03: The first thing she ever put out was about lawsuit is money she wanted.
55:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:30
SPEAKER_03: And when the m that when that didn't work, right?
55:34
SPEAKER_03: Because she came up with this big obnoxious story.
55:37
SPEAKER_03: I was tying she up in the basement, uh, real Kelly thing, you know.
55:42
SPEAKER_03: A pissing on she at four o'clock in the morning, all kinds of stupid thing, you know.
55:47
SPEAKER_03: But the allegations was serious allegations, and it was uh it was it was something.
55:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I to be honest with you, I really don't even really like going back to it.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: And for me to talk about it, I have to go back to it, right?
56:02
SPEAKER_03: So it it it it it bothers me a lot, right?
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Because you gotta understand, I have a family, I have my children, I have everybody who was really disappointed in the situation because they was the ones who was telling me she's not the one.
56:14
unknown: From before.
56:16
SPEAKER_03: Let me tell, children, anytime your mother tells you about a woman or a friend, please listen to your mother.
56:30
SPEAKER_03: When you're when you carry your friend by your mother's house, right?
56:34
SPEAKER_03: And your mother says, uh-huh, see that one?
56:37
SPEAKER_03: I ain't too sure about that one, and right.
56:43
SPEAKER_01: No, that's the best ones.
56:45
Corie: That's the best ones.
56:46
Corie: At least even in the short run, it's the best ones.
56:49
Corie: Yeah.
56:50
Corie: Well, they go teach you a valuable lesson.
56:52
Corie: In the long run.
56:54
Corie: Right.
56:54
Corie: But listen, one of the things, right?
56:56
Corie: I I see it play out, right?
56:57
SPEAKER_03: So let me just get to the whole um part with the old woman we were talking about.
57:03
SPEAKER_03: I was in the I I was in the house, sorry.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: I was in the house, and somebody sent me a video.
57:10
SPEAKER_03: And the video was this lady on, I don't know if it was a live or if it was recorded.
57:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what it was, but she was literally lying on me, telling the people, oh yes, is he put out the girl sex tapes?
57:29
SPEAKER_03: Yes, because I was in a group chat and I see when he put it in the group chat.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: I don't I have I don't do grap group chats, bro.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: I don't lose grap group chats, especially when it comes to people I'm not close with.
57:42
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: A family group chat, yeah.
57:45
SPEAKER_03: A prior, a prayer group chat, yeah.
57:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh a movie deal, yes.
57:50
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah.
57:50
SPEAKER_03: Those kind of things, yes, I'm in those group chats.
57:53
SPEAKER_03: But just idle people in a group in a group chat, no.
57:57
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
57:57
SPEAKER_03: That's not my thing.
57:58
SPEAKER_03: And when I heard her say that, she kind of tried to confirm that I was being this person, that I'm not.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: I never had no bad blood with her.
58:10
SPEAKER_03: We've been on shows in Barbados and Trinidad everywhere.
58:13
SPEAKER_03: We done work together, we took pictures together, we did things together.
58:16
SPEAKER_03: So for me to sit down and listen to this lady say that, I was just like, wow, how you could just make up something like that?
58:25
SPEAKER_03: You you you had to do like me.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: Met to be mistaken sometimes.
58:28
Corie: Forget about it.
58:29
Corie: No, no, no, no, no, mistake.
58:30
Corie: But let me ask you this, right?
58:32
Corie: Because men and women see these things differently, right?
58:34
SPEAKER_03: Remember, as I fan, I was like, Wallow or fly just now.
58:37
SPEAKER_07: He saw it.
58:38
SPEAKER_03: You saw it?
58:39
SPEAKER_03: That's why I took a drink.
58:41
SPEAKER_03: That is why I took a drink, you know.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: I say he had to go down.
58:50
Corie: You're no pause now.
58:52
Corie: We can't pause now.
58:52
Corie: We can't pause now.
58:53
Corie: You might not drink the fly already.
58:54
Corie: You can pause.
59:00
Corie: And I said, I say, well, I said, well, you sure you're still on a tomorrow, Rachel Price.
59:08
Corie: She had powers, you know.
59:09
Corie: If she sent me a big thing, it looks like it's a going on inside here.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: It's still Caribbean people, you know.
59:16
SPEAKER_02: Somebody tell me anyway.
59:20
Corie: No, but it's about difference between the way I think as a fan, as a man go see them things differently woman.
59:25
Corie: I feel sometimes a woman when they watch certain situations.
59:28
Corie: As a man, you've been through plenty in life.
59:30
Corie: And you might you might wait.
59:31
Corie: I was waiting as a fan, I will tell you, right?
59:33
Corie: I was watching it.
59:34
Corie: I was hoping you say something.
59:36
Corie: As a man, too.
59:37
Corie: So I know what you're dealing with home more important than what the hell I feel about you and your career and so on.
59:42
Corie: That that can't be consequential to you at the time.
59:44
Corie: But I like you.
59:45
Corie: So I'm hoping at some point you say something because I guess from watching you and being here for a feeling like it has to have something else, man.
59:52
Corie: Something, you know.
59:53
Corie: But but women, I I I suppose women, especially at the going through the era of believe women and think they might default to.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_03: There was there was so many red flags with that girl and her family.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_03: I I I would the one thing I could the one thing I will I will I will verify is that I wasn't myself at that time.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_03: I w all that I was raised upon, all that I knew in life, all of all of the prayers that that I've prayed, and my mother taught me how to pray, and you know, knowing good from bad and wrong, right from wrong, I wasn't that at that point in time in my life.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_03: I was I was I was being taken over by, I don't know if it was lust, I don't know if it was being empathetic for somebody, I don't know what it was, but I wasn't who I was supposed to be.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_06: True.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_03: And that's why I had to go through what I went through.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:00:50
SPEAKER_03: Because God literally removed this person out of my life like three times, and I went back for the person.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_03: Like literally.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean and this girl had sex three times a day, every every day of the week.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_03: This girl will not get pregnant, bro.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_03: Will not.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_03: My wife that I'm with now, she came to America in June.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_03: She was pregnant by September.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_03: God was protecting me from this situation, but I was not being obedient to the situation.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_03: When God removed her, because every time she didn't get her way, she would leave.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm going to my mother, I'm leaving.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_03: And I used to go and run behind she.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_03: So, with all that done, I go for somebody black like that wall.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: And it will be.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: When I turn up you like that, doesn't mean you see she.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: Unless she had that smile.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_03: Where is babes?
1:02:04
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, Red Woman.
1:02:08
Corie: So you're good now.
1:02:09
Corie: You're good.
1:02:09
Corie: You're in a good space.
1:02:10
Corie: I am great.
1:02:11
Corie: I am great.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: I have a beautiful family.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_03: I just had a beautiful son.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: You know, he's he's a year and and and a couple months.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, I have a beautiful wife, and you know, she's the total opposite.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: She's the and I think that's why I gravitated to her so much.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: She has such a soft voice.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_03: She's this it's totally day and night.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_03: I was with uh somebody who liked to fight, like to put her hands on people, and if you retaliate or if you restraining her, use the worst person in the world.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:02:44
SPEAKER_03: And she had a uh a mother who pacified her behaviors as well.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_03: And I never knew what, I never knew what type of person she was until I talked to the mother one day and I said, because this is the this is the story that she was feeding me.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh, um, I'm with my baby father is very abusive, and he just beat me, and he sleep with all my friends, and he's he lives with me and my mother and my family, and my mother doesn't want to kick him out, and I don't want to be around him, so I have to leave.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_03: That's how she ended up in Houston to be gonna police.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_03: I go into do a show in Houston, I call she, I go be in Houston, I'll do in a show, okay, but I have something to tell you.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_03: The man is living with me.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_03: The same man you tell me you want to escape and get away from, the man who cut in your skin right through, something ain't right.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: That was a red flag.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_03: I should have left her alone.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:03:44
SPEAKER_03: But like I said, I wasn't myself at the time.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_03: I was not myself.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_03: And and I the mother had a strange relationship with her.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_03: It almost like she was trying to live vicariously through the daughter.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: It was so it was just very weird and off.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, it was it it was so many dynamics today's situation that it was just crazy.
1:04:06
Corie: Yeah, I mean, when you look back at it now, you think, you know, COVID is song like just the other day, but it's five years past, so it's good to know that they're done at least.
1:04:12
Corie: Right.
1:04:12
Corie: And you're in a good space on the level.
1:04:14
Corie: Absolutely.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, absolutely.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, for me, it just the fact that I had to go through the situation because of me not taking action when I should have.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_03: Because all of it could have been avoided.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_03: You know, but um just because I wasn't being obedient to God, I I had to go through that, right?
1:04:34
SPEAKER_03: But it it actually put me in a better space.
1:04:36
Corie: Yeah, lessons.
1:04:36
Corie: That's all you do.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:04:38
SPEAKER_03: Because now I know I I the the greatest thing, and this is what I tell a lot of people, right?
1:04:43
SPEAKER_03: Um you can't let the situations that you go through in life shape who you are, right?
1:04:51
SPEAKER_03: You have to remain true to yourself, right?
1:04:53
SPEAKER_03: Because if I have so much friends, right, that that that experienced that situation firsthand.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_03: That was like, bro, if I was going through where you went, I would have never been the same, bro.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: And for me, I had to remain true to myself.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_03: I was raised off of love, not survival.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
1:05:16
SPEAKER_03: I was raised by a Christian grandmother, a Christian mother.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:05:20
SPEAKER_03: People who know who what love is.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm very family-oriented.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_03: I have a very big family.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't have those stories.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_03: You know, some people that stories where they be like, I don't deal with my mother.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I don't talk to my brother.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_03: I don't have them stories.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_03: My family is very tight-knit.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_03: Family entering that means where you're from.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: Wa wah wah.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_03: I should have known it was a red flag from I met from I introduced this girl to my mother, and she was like, What's up, sis?
1:05:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, she had she's telling my daughter.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_03: Well, my mother sis no.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a problem.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_04: My mother said, What she knows, sis.
1:05:59
Corie: No missing.
1:06:05
Corie: Yeah, there's a lot.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_03: You're my mother, sis.
1:06:12
Corie: Yeah, especially for Caribbean people.
1:06:14
Corie: You see that that relationship with mother of bears.
1:06:16
Corie: I heard you talk about on Sisway 2.
1:06:18
Corie: I hear you talk about you and Bujo being cool with these skits that you do.
1:06:21
Corie: You know which one surprised me the most?
1:06:23
Corie: Which one?
1:06:23
Corie: Bounty Killer.
1:06:24
Corie: Because as Caribbean people, right?
1:06:26
Corie: You see, you when you're doing skits and things, people is judge these things hard enough.
1:06:30
Corie: So when you decide you're gonna be Mitzi or you're gonna be Sandrin or you're gonna be.
1:06:34
Corie: And it's some of them skits now, use man and woman in the heat of the thing.
1:06:38
Corie: I wonder how somebody like Bounty Killer who might know as a militant man in Jamaica.
1:06:42
Corie: Nah, man.
1:06:44
Corie: Bounty is my brother.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_03: Bojo is my brother.
1:06:47
Corie: From the Audi Gate, the first time Bountic Hill said equal?
1:06:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:51
Corie: Serious?
1:06:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_03: I remember well, I met Bounty plenty of times within my music career.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_03: But I don't think something.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_03: I don't think that people connect Major Hype, the DJ, the selector, with Major Hype the comedian.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_03: Right, right, right, right.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_03: I really don't think that they connect that.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:07:12
SPEAKER_03: And a lot of times they they they it's like they meeting somebody for the first time all over again.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_03: So that's what I'm talking about.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_03: I was in Jamaica, I went to Weddy Weddy.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_03: You know what Weddy Weddy is, right?
1:07:27
SPEAKER_07: Wednesdays, yeah.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_03: Went to Weddie Weddy.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_03: Bounty is a man who just be in his corner and hold his hold his vibes and whatever, whatever.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: And he was starting out with Sarani and somebody else.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_03: I can't remember who else it was, but somebody else was there.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: And I was in my own corner, he was in his own corner.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: And he looked at Sarani and said, not the comedian, you that.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_03: And Sarani said, yeah, I'm a dog, man.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_03: Me and him good.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you and Sarani good?
1:08:00
SPEAKER_03: He said, so how him don't come and heal me.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_03: And I said, and and Sarani came over.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_04: He said, Yo, how you feel walk past the general, sir?
1:08:13
SPEAKER_04: You have to heal the general, the general watch your thing, them, you know?
1:08:17
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_03: I had to open my phone and look at my thing and say, but the general don't follow fucking me.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_03: Like the general fucking, he don't want people to know he followed me.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have a better profile.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
1:08:33
SPEAKER_03: So I walk over by Bunty and I say, Yeah, King, Youth.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_02: You know Samina laugh.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: Me no smile with people.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_02: But you see, feel you think them have me a dead in a youth.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: And the man boss smile.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_01: Which you don't see.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_01: So much pressure is off of me.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_01: I thought this man was called me over there to say, hey, but he wall.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: You put on wig.
1:09:04
Corie: I thought that was called.
1:09:06
Corie: Men get at, men get choked in the eye, you know.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_03: But I feel like I feel like they know that that is just a persona.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:09:16
SPEAKER_03: And and and I feel like they realize that, yo, this you just talented in a certain type of way.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_03: Because even with my female characters, I don't really go the extra when it comes to them.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_03: Like you wouldn't see me put on no skirt, no, you know what I'm saying?
1:09:34
SPEAKER_03: You see me put on a a female shirt.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: But it's not no blouse or no limited.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Going over the limit thing.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:09:43
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm just trying to get out the actual content.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_03: I'm not there to appease nobody as, oh, that you know how much women call me and tell me, I have a nice wig to give you.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_03: I don't wear your wig lady.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: You crazy.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_01: No, I make wigs.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_01: Some of them nearly walk with wigs today, though.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: They said.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: I just make wigs.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_03: And I have a nice wig that, you know, I plucked the front already, and it has it have baby hairs.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_03: Miss, I not really trying to portray a woman, you know.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_03: I just really using it just as a reference, really.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:10:23
SPEAKER_03: And you know, so I just that's why you say I don't change my wigs.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_03: You see a wig I have one that lint in it, all kinds of things.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because that projecting comedy within itself.
1:10:33
Corie: I get you, I get you.
1:10:35
Corie: So you had no hesitation about it because from song system culture, that's a thing you're such as Mount Killer.
1:10:39
Corie: You would have bought out that many times and clash and dance and things.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_03: I never knew either put on a wig.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_03: Me.
1:10:47
Corie: It must be a selector who's studying you now.
1:10:49
Corie: They must he have you in mind from since back then.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_03: Alright, remember when I was doing the Budjo impersonations and stuff, right?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_03: Boju was already incarcerated at the time.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna tell you how I met Evan Glenroy.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_03: I was doing Love and Harmony Cruise, and they had set up like this um, it was like a screen where you could go in in a box and you would go in there and send a message to Budju while he was incarcerated.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay, okay.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_03: So you go in the box and they had a big cutout thing of Budju on on the on the um on the boat.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_03: So when you go in the box, you see the the cutout of Budju behind you, and you would say, Oh, big Boju, go and roll your head, big up yourself, you know?
1:11:39
SPEAKER_03: I go in there now, and I did talking inside there, yo, you don't know, big up yourself, major hyper.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: You know him then?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: You or I knew him, I met him.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh, some system.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_03: I met him, but didn't know him.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah, which I now decide the the budou cutout ain't aligning with the camera like how I want it.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_03: So I go outside and I move the thing, the cutout thing.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_03: See this man walk over.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_03: Are you yours?
1:12:17
SPEAKER_03: That's what you mean.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_03: Are you yours to fucking move it?
1:12:25
SPEAKER_03: One man.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_03: I say I say, but it it not it not lining with the camera properly.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_03: I asked if that is fucking yours.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_03: I say I know I want a Jamaican fucking cruise.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_03: And this man doesn't song a Jamaican at all.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_03: So I say, who's this fucking training man come on this cruise to disrespect me so?
1:12:52
SPEAKER_03: So I say, I said, move your blood cloud.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_03: I said, move my blood cloud.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_03: Move my blood cloud.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_03: You know it's me, boy.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_03: I said, I don't care who is.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_03: Man, people coming, I mean, big, big thing back and all where people come in between me and thing and so now time pass now.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_03: You remember we on a cruise, so you can't escape nobody.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_03: I said I'm outside and me and Berris stand up talking and I smoking a cigarette, whatever, Berris smoking, and we there laughing and talking and thing, and because what Berris called me um what he called me?
1:13:38
SPEAKER_03: Arsehole.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_01: Yo, asshole.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did it.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_03: You see you, you're funny.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, nice.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_03: And I see the same man walking coming down the deck, and he has on a shirt.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, you know Boju Bantan have a shirt, that's a B.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_03: B.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_03: So you walk and coming down now, and he stands up next to me.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_03: You see you?
1:14:07
SPEAKER_03: He's a very disrespectful man.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_03: I say, yeah.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_03: He said, don't worry, I go deal with you.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_03: I said, you go deal with me?
1:14:17
SPEAKER_03: I say you should deal with that shit, you have one.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_03: He said, warm to my shoot.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_03: I said, you see what it's saying?
1:14:24
SPEAKER_03: BB, baty boy.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_03: Who tells me to tell that man that batty boy?
1:14:31
SPEAKER_03: It's batty boy.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_03: And the man started carrying on on the boat.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_03: Part again.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_03: So now I'll watch him and he telling me, you can never come back to the dad.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_03: You I say, you can't stop me from coming to that.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_03: He said, yeah.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_03: When I see in Trinidad, I deal with your case.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_03: And you're doing a set of boju thing.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_03: And I said, You you're not doing no, you not nobody bringing no boju no way.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_03: I said, the only man who brings Boju to Trinidad is Glen Roy Watson.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_03: And the man watched me, the man watched me, I said, the man watched me, he face wrench up, you know.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_03: The man face like this, you know.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_03: And when I said that, he said, so who is me?
1:15:29
SPEAKER_03: I said, I don't know you.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_03: I don't know you, he said.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_03: And he takes what he wallet.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_03: And he gave me the idea.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_03: And when I watch the fucking digging, Glenn Roy Watson.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_03: I said, I look up at him and say, You is Glen Roy.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_03: He said, When you come through, I will make them beat you.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_03: I said, I said, I don't bump to come back to you.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_03: One Glen Roy What's new.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_03: My boy, and I'll tell you, from that day we just clicked.
1:16:11
Corie: Yeah.
1:16:11
Corie: So it's true that you said a hosting show something here?
1:16:14
Corie: Yes.
1:16:14
Corie: Because what was the name?
1:16:15
Corie: He had a name he used to call Friends for Life.
1:16:17
Corie: Was he sure?
1:16:18
Corie: He had a name when he was bringing Boojour.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_03: But three years crazy name and the same thing, yeah.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_03: So I remember I was here in Trinidad and he have he had well he had a office in the savannah there.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_03: And an ex friend of ours, which is Stefan, Stephon Nimlet, he was a police officer.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_03: He used to do like security for all the big artists when they come here, beanie man, everybody.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_03: And me and him was best of friends too.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_03: And he unfortunately he passed away even before Glen Roy passed away.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_03: So um when we went to his funeral, Glen Roy Fast forward.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_03: Carnival had just passed.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_03: Glen Roy, you know, anybody who knows Glen Roy knows he's a cussser.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_03: He loves the cuss thing, he makes big scene out of everything.
1:17:10
Corie: If Glen Roy never threatened, then nobody can.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_03: So Glen Roy told me he wanted to do a show in Sappa.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_03: So I said, alright, I tell him my fee and you know how much I got charge and all of this.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_03: I was actually on the Epic Cruise coming to Trinidad for Carnival, right?
1:17:30
SPEAKER_03: So I was performing on the Epic Cruise and he was already in Trinidad.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_03: And he sending me a set of voice notes, but he's not sending it to me, he sending it to my manager.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_07: Radio.
1:17:40
SPEAKER_03: Hey.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_04: The show is five fucking days.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_04: And I ain't got a video yet.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_01: Major playing the ass with me.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_01: I tell him all you I go just cancel this fucking show.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_01: And he carrying on, you know.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_03: But but Glenoy knows he's a cuss too.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:17:59
SPEAKER_03: I just match energy, right?
1:18:01
SPEAKER_03: So my manager now comes to me and saying, yo, Glen Roy cussing.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_03: You know, he ain't got this.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_03: So I I press thing on the WhatsApp.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_03: I said, I said, Glenoy, let me tell you something.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_03: You feel your thing is first priority?
1:18:19
SPEAKER_03: I said, yo, I on a cruise.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_03: The service ain't good.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_03: I can't send you no video right now.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_03: The man sent me back a voice.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to hear it?
1:18:31
SPEAKER_03: Say what?
1:18:31
Corie: Wow, what's for real, boy?
1:18:33
Corie: We need Glen Roy on this podcast, boy.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_03: Let me play.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_03: Let me play the I go play.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_03: Rest in peace to my brother.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_03: Great word.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_03: Great word.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_03: Hey, the last thing Glen Roy told me that he never told me before he passed was I love you, bro.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_03: Serious.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_03: That's sweat to you.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let me let me find it, please.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_03: This man says, This man says, Ward major.
1:19:06
unknown: Tell me.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_00: He was nice, I didn't know.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_00: Leave my calm down there, boy.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_00: He was nice, if not being Roy Watson, but leave my role for me.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_00: Great one, boy.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_03: He said, Boy, why Steph one leave me with you, boy?
1:19:37
SPEAKER_03: That's the last that was in Carnival just passing in February, you know.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: And when he said that, I was like, bro, do say them kind of thing, dog.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Boy, Steph one leave me with you, boy.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_03: Now look, he with Steph one.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, boy, yeah, boy, yeah, boy, yeah, boy, yeah.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_03: So to speak.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:19:58
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, um, a lot of people didn't like Glen Roy, but I had a very good understanding of him.
1:20:03
Corie: But Glen Roy had to like and he had a dislike.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_03: But he's actually a real, real, real one.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_03: Glen Roy cussed me right through.
1:20:11
Corie: Congrats, congrats to like true.
1:20:13
Corie: Listen, kind of drunk, you know, me in the world.
1:20:19
Corie: We're running out of time.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_03: I was not gonna tell you this this this ticket coming with fly and all.
1:20:25
Corie: So let me talk about characters now because we talk about who's my partner named Hector.
1:20:28
Corie: Hector saved my life in a way though.
1:20:30
Corie: Every Wednesday, I used to look forward to Hector.
1:20:32
Corie: I used to look forward to well, the Ras I hear you say the Rass was your favorite man.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_03: Ras just Rash is like Glen Roy.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_03: Zero tolerance, cussing everybody.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_03: You can't say certain things to him.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:20:47
SPEAKER_03: The Ross.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so I will I'll I'll tell you this.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_03: The Ross is actually my dad.
1:20:56
Corie: Same kind of character.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_03: So your father Jamaica.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_03: The Ross temperament and his characteristics is my dad.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_03: My dad is very much so like the Ras.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_03: He's he's a zero tolerance man.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_03: My father was a fake raster.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_03: No, he was a raster, but he, you know, whatever.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, that's where that came from, right?
1:21:27
SPEAKER_03: And I just kind of exaggerated the character a little more than what my dad was, right?
1:21:32
SPEAKER_03: But that that's yeah, that's him.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:21:36
SPEAKER_03: And that's that's probably why he's one of my favorite characters, because I didn't I didn't get to live how I wanted to live with my dad.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:21:47
SPEAKER_03: Um Me and my dad were so much alike that we had love for each other, but it was like a a battle, constant battle back and forth.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:21:58
SPEAKER_03: Like he's him, I'm me, but I'm him as well.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_03: And um, unfortunately, my dad died like three years ago.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry to go.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he passed away.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_03: But um the one good thing that I feel about that situation was the fact that um I got to have a conversation with him before he passed.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_03: And learn to understand a lot of things that as a child I wouldn't understand, but as a grown man, I understood.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_03: You know, and um a lot of things that we need to understand is that our parents, they weren't perfect, right?
1:22:36
SPEAKER_03: And it's our job to learn and unlearn certain things from them, right?
1:22:43
SPEAKER_03: So I had to unlearn a lot of things from my dad, you know, and I knew that I knew that he did his best, which whatever capacity that is to him, but I knew that I didn't want to be that, right?
1:22:54
SPEAKER_03: Which is why I'm such a good father to my children today.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:22:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, and sometimes even us trying to be better parents to our children also hinders them as well, right?
1:23:09
SPEAKER_03: Because I didn't I didn't get half as much as what my children got, but that turned out okay, right?
1:23:17
SPEAKER_03: But I have children that is that got have everything and still will come in my room and say, Dad, I'm bored.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_03: Bored, go and move it, get it.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_03: Because you have game, you have bicycles, you have everything.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_03: And you telling me you bored, brother.
1:23:32
SPEAKER_03: When I was growing up, we take in box juice and putting in the the flipping side of the road and and racing that dumb rip.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_03: What are you telling me about you bored, brother?
1:23:43
SPEAKER_03: You understand?
1:23:44
SPEAKER_03: So, like I just knew that my characters will be from my past experiences.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_03: Whether it was parents, whether it was friends, whether it was strangers, whatever I got along this journey, I was gonna make it a character.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:24:04
SPEAKER_03: And that's how Mitzi came about, that's how Grandpa James came about.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm majority of the people that is from Trinidad have that grandparent that they're not hindering, they're not gonna pretty up nothing to tell you nothing.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_03: And that's what Grandpa James was.
1:24:25
Corie: You know, not just that, like I want to grow up to be grandpa James, I want to be now in this.
1:24:29
Corie: That's my own ambition.
1:24:31
Corie: I just want to be heading to the other.
1:24:32
Corie: You're talking about Mr.
1:24:32
Corie: Perry.
1:24:33
Corie: That's Mr.
1:24:33
Corie: Perry.
1:24:34
Corie: Yeah, Mr.
1:24:34
Corie: Perry is my favorite.
1:24:35
Corie: Mr.
1:24:36
SPEAKER_03: Perry is extra bordered in this, isn't he, please?
1:24:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, somebody asked this girl, I was dating this girl at one point, and she was like, you know.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, when you get older and you're dating, things get your tolerance get a little low.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, this is before I was married, right?
1:24:50
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, um, this girl, she asked me my zodiac and all kind of stuff in this.
1:24:55
SPEAKER_03: And are you an introvert?
1:24:57
SPEAKER_03: You an extrovert?
1:24:58
SPEAKER_03: I said, friend, I'm a pervert.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_03: I want to see a titties, I want to see a breast right now.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_03: You telling me about introvert.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_03: I am a pervert.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_03: And that is how Mr.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_03: Perry came about.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_02: Because I telling myself, when I get up in age, you know, them home healthy have held back and all with me.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_01: What?
1:25:21
SPEAKER_01: That's the ambition.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_01: You just I just want to be just barely healthy, you know.
1:25:25
Corie: I paying for all inclusive package.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_03: So that is Mr.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_03: Perry.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_03: You know, you know the funny thing?
1:25:34
SPEAKER_03: Marshall, I seen Marshall one time when I just started doing Mr.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_03: Perry.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_03: And he he actually booked me for an event that he was doing in New York.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_03: So when I went to New York now, you know, um, I was in my green room, whatever, whatever, and he came to heal me up.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_03: And the man watched me and said, Major, I is Mr.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_01: Perry right now.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_01: He waits until I said, Marshall, you mean?
1:26:02
SPEAKER_01: I not wait until I get the Ice Mr.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_01: Perry right now.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_01: Ice a perfect.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_03: I said, Marshall, he's a mad man.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_03: He tried to tell me.
1:26:19
SPEAKER_03: You know, my Marshall is my brother as well.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_03: Big up to Marshall as well.
1:26:23
Corie: So were the only answers and things was always cool in terms of they they respond well and they take it.
1:26:28
Corie: Anybody take it out?
1:26:30
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, the funny thing is, right, I feel like people have been watching my content for so long that when they meet me, they meet me and feel like they already know me.
1:26:40
unknown: I suppose.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:26:41
SPEAKER_03: So even people who have never met before, like when we meet, sometimes we just click just like that.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, Kes, Marshall, you name them.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:26:55
SPEAKER_03: Especially if it's somebody that I that I imitated.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:26:59
SPEAKER_03: Like the last well, I I mean, I my my content usually go viral at least twice a month.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:27:08
SPEAKER_03: One of the one of the most recent viral videos that I did was Boju and Marshall in the in the studio together.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:27:17
SPEAKER_03: And somebody called me and said, you know, I was in the studio with Marshall.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_03: And when you pulled that video, I show this man that video, and the man said, You see what cuts it, this man?
1:27:31
SPEAKER_01: And he and he watched the video and he said, I supposed to be doing um a song right now.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_01: This is a sign, I'm not doing that video, I'm not doing it.
1:27:41
SPEAKER_01: I want it and done with the song.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_01: The man said he watched the video and laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh.
1:27:49
SPEAKER_01: I said, Boy, made your hype is something you see.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_01: This is a sign that why I'm not doing this song for you.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_01: Cool, cool.
1:27:57
Corie: I have a request enough.
1:27:58
Corie: After you do that, I have a request now.
1:28:00
Corie: See Bujo and Kess, right?
1:28:01
Corie: Get to be the I know if it's ambassadors for Labor.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the court.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, what do you call it?
1:28:06
SPEAKER_03: The Marshall.
1:28:08
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna need to see what was the real conversation.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, we're gonna say court marshal.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna need to see what's the real conversation.
1:28:15
Corie: Well, brother, I know if you gotta wait for CMAs every year to see you come back and them thing, you know, but we gotta find you back here soon enough.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_03: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, whenever opportunity allows me to, I love to be in Trinidad.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:28:30
Corie: Repatriation is a must.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:28:35
SPEAKER_03: No, but but but honestly, um for me, I don't know about nobody else, but for me, when I go to the Caribbean, anywhere in the Caribbean, I am home.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_03: And that's why I look at the bigger picture when it comes to unifying us as a people.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:28:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm home in Trinidad.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_03: I am home in Jamaica, I am home in St.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_03: Vincent, I'm home in Grenada, I'm home in Barbie's Guyana.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_03: Where is it?
1:29:13
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say Barbados, but it are real white people in Barbados.
1:29:17
SPEAKER_03: You don't feel so.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't feel at home there.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_03: I feel I feel like I feel like in Four Month.
1:29:25
SPEAKER_03: Are you not going down there, man?
1:29:27
SPEAKER_03: No, but I love Barbados as well.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm just joking.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do it.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't wanna I don't wanna say anything else that make any other nationality dislike me because clearly especially before the weekend, you have a jumping.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_03: Clearly, you know, um there's one place that I uh yeah, they just don't like me.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_03: Serious?
1:29:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_03: Well Guy know I believe that man.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_03: Damn, no.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_03: I feel we should cut this thing.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_03: I have a lot of Guyanese fans.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:30:04
SPEAKER_03: And and and I embrace Guyana to the fullest.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, um, but there's some that is ignorant and they feel like, you know, I was disrespecting them.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_03: But the thing is to me, right, the thing is for me is how can I disrespect a country that I was representing for so many years?
1:30:24
SPEAKER_03: I incorporated them in all of my sketches and skits for so many years.
1:30:31
SPEAKER_03: And if you look back at the hashtag that I use under those skits, it's one Caribbean, Caribbean pride, right?
1:30:37
SPEAKER_03: Caribbean parents be like, Caribbean families like, right?
1:30:41
SPEAKER_03: So how can I disrespect y'all when I'm actually representing?
1:30:46
SPEAKER_03: You know how much people come to me and didn't even know that Guyana was even uh a country.
1:30:54
SPEAKER_03: Caribbean territory, yeah.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_03: They thinking it's in Africa.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_03: Guyana, Ghana, right?
1:30:59
SPEAKER_03: No, Guyana.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_03: You understand what I'm saying?
1:31:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_03: Majority of my friends is from Guyana.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_03: A lot of my friends is from Guyana.
1:31:07
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, but I don't know what it is, but I'm not.
1:31:10
Corie: So especially with your parents from there, they don't they don't accept that that you really life spending judge, too.
1:31:17
Corie: They don't accept that.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_03: I said I'm the king of Caribbean comedy, not South American comedy.
1:31:22
Corie: Ladies and gentlemen, the king of Caribbean comedy, Major Hack.
1:31:26
Corie: Thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, you know, you know one of the you know one of the things that they told me?
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SPEAKER_03: Uh they said, yo, you know why we beat you?
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SPEAKER_03: Because we was going back and forth with um with with cricket with turnhard, and they was using that video against us.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, there are no problems to the data game though.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
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Corie: Too bravo let it guys.
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Corie: We did, I feel like we missed everything.
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Corie: Only the two chapter two hours.