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- Jaden: I'm Jaden Danielle: and I'm Danielle. Jaden: and this is the Ruining the Workplace podcast. Danielle: Blast off. my god, we're back. We're here. Jaden: just like windswirled. my god. It's just we are back. How are you? Danielle: I'm good. It has been a summer. How are you? Jaden: It has been a summer. I'm I'm all right. It's been a summer Danielle: You're alright. Yeah. It Jaden: as well. Danielle: yeah. It's I am sad that it's over. I'm using air quotes for that 'cause it doesn't feel over, but Jaden: Mm. Danielle: it is, right? It's w it's wound down. I'm sad that it's winding down, but I am excited for I have a positive outlook on the future. Let's say that. Jaden: Interesting. Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: Yeah, no, totally. Danielle: huh. Jaden: Well, what what's good news in your world since we last talked, which was we should probably acknowledge this is welcome back to ruining the workplace. We are, Danielle: My gosh. Yeah. Welcome back. This Jaden: we are kicking off season two, like Danielle: Yes. Jaden: Hey, episode one, season two. We are back back. Danielle: We're doing it. Yeah, we had to take a little bit of a break. And I'm glad that we did, honestly, because this is so life giving and so fun. And also it was nice to just not have that pressure that we put on ourselves, Jaden: Yeah. Agree. Danielle: but also Jaden: But it's creative pressure and I think we need that, you know, because there's so much Danielle: Right. We do. Jaden: external other kinds of stress and pressure right now. that this Lord have mercy. Danielle: Yes. The robots are bearing down on us as we speak. The pressure. It's like this metal clanking pressure. my God. Clankers. Jaden: Yeah, it's clanker. I think isn't that what the kids call it? Clanker. Danielle: It's funny that you say that. So we're a big Star Wars household and Jaden: Mm. Danielle: my kiddo and I are watching the animated series The Clone Wars. Jaden: yes. Danielle: And that's what they call the droids. The Jaden: Well Danielle: clankers. And it's interesting to be watching that show in this time period because I also want to go and blow up robots. Jaden: Yep, more and more every day. Danielle: Shockingly, I'm on the side of the Jedi wanting to take Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: out, you know, the Sith and their robots. So there's that. Jaden: Ha. Danielle: speaking of the Star Wars comparison to AI, I don't Jaden: Mm. Danielle: know if I shared this with you, and maybe you saw it on your own, Either way, there's been a lot of discussions across the country about data centers and flock cameras and all of this icky technology. I'm gonna straight up call it that. Jaden: Mmm, yes, Danielle: and recently, and I don't remember what state or city this guy was in, but it was at like a town council meeting or something, and this guy came in dressed up as Darth Vader and had the vo Jaden: Ha ha ha. Danielle: like was doing the voice and everything, and he was speaking out about flock cameras. But Jaden: dear. Danielle: the way that he was doing it was like, these are great. The emperor loves flock cameras because Jaden: Lord Danielle: And if you're not familiar with Star Wars, none of this is gonna make sense to you, but then also you have some homework. So but he's like going on about how Jaden: Yeah, where have you been also? Danielle: the emperor fully supports this mission. It allows complete control over the citizens and over the galaxy. And I mean, it's just like amazing. I mean, way to cause such I love it. It's so great. And it there's a woman sitting behind him that's caught on camera, and she is trying to keep it together. Like 'cause like people, you know, they're they're kind of serious meetings, right? Jaden: Right. Danielle: And this guy is just really leaning into it. And I'm like, you know, it's the best comparison. So it's so funny. Jaden: It really is. And then the whole thing is that Darth Vader's a bad guy, guys. Danielle: He's a bad guy, right. So we don't want what he wants. Like, if he's on board, we gotta get out. Jaden: No, we actually want the opposite. Yeah. At this point, Darth Vader is Donald Trump. You know what mean? But I still feel like Donald yeah. Danielle: I w or is Donald Trump Emperor Palpatine? Like it's you know Jaden: It's true. He probably wears a diaper and shits himself all day long and then goes, Ugh, good, Danielle: Ha ha ha Jaden: good. Danielle: Ha ha ha. Jaden: But tell us how you really feel. Anyway. Danielle: Right, right. He must control the Galactic Senate and all that fun stuff. Yeah. Anyway No. I took Jaden: Yes. Put my name on it. It's the Trumps in it now. Okay, I'm sorry. We're getting way off track here. Danielle: us down a path and I'm glad that we went there, but we need to come back now. Jaden: We do. Let's you know, summer was heavy in a lot of ways. We lost some good people this summer. Danielle: Yeah. man. Jaden: this whole year has been kind of shit for like losing good people as Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: I I don't know, like Dolly Parton, Rip Baby, I miss you. I just Danielle: Right. my god. Jaden: why? What the hell? Just Danielle: Truly. something that Jaden: Mm. Danielle: gives me some amount of peace is like if anybody becomes an angel or like a guardian angel, it's Dolly. Like she Jaden: it's gonna be Dolly. Danielle: is looking down on all of us and like Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: I don't know, she's probably gonna just shake shit up up there if you believe it and up Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: there. and I think she can I She left behind such an amazing legacy that my my hope is that that carries on, right? Like the Imagin Nation Library and all of the Jaden: Yeah. Yes. Danielle: good work that she supported. Obviously Dollywood will continue to exist and be amazing. Jaden: Mm. Danielle: it's cool that she was so much more than her music and just able to have that legacy. Jaden: Yeah, yeah. And she was just a funny, good lady. And Danielle: So funny. Jaden: we just need more of that kind of energy in the world because I feel like we Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: are inundated with whatever the opposite of Dolly Parton is. You know what I mean? It's like, ugh. So rest in peace, Dolly. We love you. But Danielle: My god, I know. I know. Right. The best kind of people. We love you. Mm-hmm. Jaden: some good things did happen and Danielle: Totally. Jaden: one of those things has a name and is her name is Becky Karen. Becky Car Danielle: Becky Karen. Jaden: less who is Becky Karen? Danielle: wouldn't you like to know? Jaden: I would. Danielle: Also, your manager would like to know. Becky. Jaden: My man. I'm gonna talk to your manager about Becky Karen. Danielle: Becky Karen is my new cat, also known as Rebecca. I have tried to change her name several times, but it's a no-go for my household. I'm like, Jaden: Yes. Danielle: what about Padme? No. What about Leia? Jaden: Mm mm. Danielle: No. What about Dolly? 'Cause I she gives me dolly vibes and I'm like, this would be perfect. Right. So it's I'm choosing Jaden: Well her first name was Rebecca. So Danielle: to think of it in that way. Jaden: Becky Dolly Karen. Danielle: Rebecca. Becky Dolly Karen. it kind of works. Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: For some reason, when I'm like she's she's become so I've had her for what, three weeks now? She's much more social now. She's out and about. So she's been very into attacking my feet at night when I'm in bed. And she's Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: super playful, but she's also just Exploring eating my houseplants and I will go Rebecca Ann Jaden: Rebecca Ann. Danielle: I don't know where. It works. Jaden: I like it. Strong, disciplinary sounding name. Danielle: Right? It feels like a really strong discipline. Like Rebecca Ann, get back here. Like if your mom names you that, Jaden: It does. Yeah. Danielle: she does not fuck around. Your mom is serious. Jaden: well, congratulations on Rebecca Ann. I think Danielle: Rebecca and Karen. Jaden: Rebecca and Karen. I'm I'm so glad Danielle: Rebecca Karen Ann. No, Ann Karen, I think. Jaden: that a kitty has made her way into your life. I think it's great. Danielle: Me too. Jaden: welcome to Ruining the Workplace, Becky and Karen. Rebecca and Karen. So Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: jumping into our episode, Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: We are gonna get back to our regular featuring of a baddie lady ruining the workplace. But today we are actually going to tell you about some really interesting baddies in books that we've been reading about. So yeah. Danielle: Hell yeah. Jaden: So I've been reading a book and Danielle has been reading a book, and we're just gonna give you a little sneak peek into these stories. And then we're gonna give full book reports in later episodes. And you're gonna wanna hear it because these are these are some fascinating stories. One is fiction. The Danielle: They're so good. Jaden: one that I'm reading is kind of a historical fiction. It's like a play on real life events. And then the one you're reading is actually about three different women who have made Danielle: Mm. Jaden: some pretty significant impacts in terms of like would you say environment or what give me the quick. Danielle: Yeah, I think environment or outdoors Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: yeah, because they all do different like they all come at it from different angles, but there's a lot of like conservation and Yeah. And also just getting women outside. Which is cool. Getting women outside. Yeah, I'm excited for this though. Jaden: Nice. Getting women outside of the kitchen. Yeah. yeah, with that, we still do have a workplace tip of the week, and you're gonna love this one. I I can't wait to tell you. And also we got a little bonus here, and this is gonna be a surprise to you, Danielle. But I actually would like to spotlight a real life lady that I know. Because she's total baddie and she just l she just published her first novel. And I'd love I'd love to just give her a shout out. So we'll do that at the end. Okay. Danielle: God Hell yeah. my god. I was about to be like Jaden you cannot spotlight me. I'm right here. But Jaden: Baby, I love you. I'd like to talk about Danielle. Danielle: Lady of the week. Jaden: I didn't do that. That's not me. Yeah. Thank you. Danielle: But then you said the book part and I was like, yeah, no, that's not me. Okay. Okay, no, that's not me. I'll spotlight you next time though. Do you do you want to start by telling us about your book? Okay. Jaden: All right, let's do it. So the book that I am currently reading and am nearly finished with is called The Beheading Game by Rebecca Lehman. And this book has like everything. It it literally covers every kind of ground possible. There's horror, there's romance, there's thriller, there's mystery, suspense, there's a little bit of drama. I mean, it's got it all. But essentially, this story is about Anne Boleyn. And when Anne Boleyn gets beheaded, as we know, I know if you don't know Danielle: Spoiler alert. Jaden: history, hundreds of years of it, there, I ruined it for you. Danielle: man. Jaden: and that's why we call this ruining the book club. Danielle: Starting off strong. Jaden: Yeah. Anyway, our dear sister Anne gets beheaded but refuses to stay dead and actually comes back to life and sews her head back on. And from there, we follow Anne through this journey of escaping the Tower of London and basically plotting her revenge against Henry VIII. So Danielle: That Jaden: she is this half-dead queen and She's realizing how does she navigate having some sort of a weird power advantage after she really realizes how oppressive the system is to people like her, women like her, and through, you know, the reign of terror that was Henry the Eighth. So I love this because all sorts of themes come up. There's revenge, there's feminism, there's ghosts. You know, I love ghosts. There is some pretty There's some dirty sex a couple of times. So you g if you're sensitive, you may wanna just buckle up. But then there's two there's Tudor England, which is my most favorite time to learn about. I just love this era, this period, all these stories that come out, especially like all of Henry's wives. But there's really just a deeply dysfunctional story involving a man Who really should have been fired many, many times, but Danielle: Amen. Jaden: unfortunately held on to power. So I'm I'm currently almost to the part where she is going to be confronting Henry, and I'm very excited to finish it because I really want to know how it turns out. And when I do, I will give you the full breakdown. So we're going all the way in on the beheading game. It is. It's so Danielle: my gosh Ooh that's exciting. Yeah it's like about to blow up Jaden: It's such a fun story Danielle: man Jaden: 'cause it really just goes places that I have never c thought about. So yeah. Danielle: I love that. I remember and listeners may recall that you first Jaden: Mm. Danielle: mentioned this story on the pod of several episodes ago. Jaden: yes. Mm-hmm. Danielle: And I when you were talking Jaden: Ha ha ha. Danielle: about it, I was like, no. Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: That just can't be. It cannot be. but now that you've been reading it and you've been telling me about it, it's on my my like Libby list. I'm waiting for it to come in at the library. because Jaden: yes. Danielle: it sounds so interesting. And I love the positioning of like it's not just like a retelling of historical events, but it's really examining, right? Or like bringing to light like feminist issues and pulling in all of these other things. And there's been a couple things that you've described to me that sound funny. Like it sounds like a fun read, but not like a fun, stupid read, you know? Jaden: Yeah. No, I I like that it's rooted in the historical record, but Danielle: Right. Jaden: it's sort of taking these liberties of the what if, you know. I I I appreciate Danielle: Right. Yeah. Jaden: the let's give Anne a chance to rewrite her own history. What could that look like? Danielle: I love that. Yeah. Well, and it's cool too because I'm assuming you watched the show The Tutors. Jaden: I did I did watch some of that with my mom. It was fun, but it was also very uncomfortable in a lot of ways. Danielle: I love that. I would never yeah, I would never know. That's cute that you guys did that though. Jaden: Huh. Danielle: But I I bring it up because I feel like the way that they pro portrayed Anne Boleyn in that show was rather bitchy. And like she was trying to survive it Jaden: Yes, she was. Danielle: she was trying and she was, I'm sure, but she was also trying to survive in a system that does not support her in any way. Jaden: Right. Danielle: Right. Jaden: Right. Exactly. Danielle: so it's cool to think about like it's not, yay, the bitch's dead. It's like what if she can come back like get her revenge. Like Henry is the bad person here, not the series Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: of women that he executes, you know. Jaden: Yeah. Why don't you tell us about the book you're reading, Daniel? Danielle: Yeah. I am reading Fierce Country by Heather Hansman Hansman. not exactly sure how she does the A in there. I'm Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: about two-thirds of the way through. So as you'd mentioned, it is a work of nonfiction. It talk it digs into the lives of three different women who were very influential in outdoor recreation and conservation efforts. So I've only Covered two of the ladies. I'm not gonna talk about the third one at all because I don't Jaden: Mm. Danielle: I know her name, but I haven't gotten that far into it right. So each of these ladies has kind of a different area of focus. So the first one is Georgie White, and she was like I think the first woman to run the Grand Canyon. As like a commercial enterprise. And running the Jaden: Mm. Danielle: Grand Canyon means like whitewater rafting through the Grand Canyon, which is very dangerous, very scary, looks amazing. So Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: way back in history, I don't even know how long ago, I cannot remember, when she started doing this, but it was, I think, in like the 40s, 40s and 50s. So it's very uncommon for women to be doing a lot of outdoor recreation, let alone like very dangerous ones. But she had, you know, a major life event and she'd already, I think, had a love of the outdoors and spending time outdoors, but got really into rafting and invented some pretty revolutionary kind of setups for the rafts because, you know, they were kind of small at first and then She's like, what if I tie two of them together? What if I tie three of them together? What if we add an engine? and while she's doing all of this, you know, she's catching a lot of flack, flack from, you know, the male rafters and whatever. And then they start Jaden: Mm-hmm. Sure. Danielle: leading trips and people are talking shit about like, you can't go with the lady guide. But she does some of the like most daring, I guess, adventures and stuff. So it's just really cool to hear kind of her story. coming up in this very intense environment, very dangerous environment. And she was also, it sounds like, very playful. So Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: she would go out there in like this leopard bodysuit. Like Jaden: my god. Danielle: so she's not only just like the woman guide out there, but she's the flamboyant female guy out there. So she's like really making a show of it. she would, you know, drink with her her guide people, her trip people, her customers, Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: and just having a great time of it. There was some unfortunate accidents that happened under her watch. So there's a little bit of discussion around like, was she too much of a risk taker? because she thought there was no rapids, right, that she couldn't conquer. But Jaden: Yeah. That doesn't go for everyone. Danielle: No, it doesn't work all the time, right? Yeah. So I'm like, ooh, Georgie, maybe not. And the author does a really good job of like balancing. So the author herself, I don't know much about her, but she references like her own outdoor experiences in the book. Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: And she's pretty transparent as she's talking about kind of both of the women that I've gotten into so far, but where she has trouble with their stories when it's like, you know, taking unnecessary risks and having people get hurt while you're going down the Colorado River or being very exclusionary to other like up and coming female guides. Like there was this sense, and this is true of Georgie and the next woman that I'll talk about, around like, I am the only one who does this. I need to maintain my position, Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: which is really interesting because I see that a lot in work, right? Like Jaden: Mmm, yes. Danielle: And I'm sure I've done it myself to some extent as well, right? Like I think we're all a little bit guilty of like that self preservation. Jaden: Sure. Danielle: But it's interesting to think about like what if as women we work together to boost all of us instead Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: of like staking our claim and not letting anyone else have even an inch, you know? Jaden: Yeah. Would you think okay, this is just a question. I I wonder if we have conditioned ourselves as women to do that in a response Danielle: Totally. Jaden: to ha like having to sorry dudes, but put up with you. Like you know what mean? Like i it kind of. Yeah. Danielle: Yeah, yeah. I do think that's part of it. Yeah, because like do you have to be territorial if you truly felt like there was enough for everyone? You know what I mean? Like or if it's like, well, we I know that there's only a scrap left behind for me and I need to Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: survive on that scrap because I'm a woman, you know? Jaden: Yeah, and is But yeah, the sort of it's it's like a famine mentality. Like we have been taught to survive a famine? The scarcity, that's the word. Yes, it's a scarcity mentality. Like Danielle: the scarcity, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. Jaden: even if it doesn't really exist, we're built to operate that way. Danielle: Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. And I do think Jaden: Yeah it Danielle: that shows up in instances like this where it's like, Well, I'm the only one and they've made it really hard for me, so I need to preserve what I have. Jaden: Right. And you know, it I think that's an interesting theme in the book that I've been reading as well. As well as just like not even Danielle: Mm-hmm. Jaden: part of the book, but just the sort of stories of that time where Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: one word will take out a woman. Right, just one slight and it's like, guilty. You know? Danielle: Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Jaden: I mean it's you can equate it, I guess, to like the witch trials, which is Danielle: Totally. Yeah. Jaden: You know, her word against everyone else's and you have no chance and the the consequences Danielle: Right. Right. Jaden: are you either die or you suffer terribly. Danielle: Yeah. I mean, there's a there's like a direct parallel to like the rights and the equity that we are losing as women, right? Like Jaden: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Danielle: we have never been paid as much, but on average, but Jaden: Right. Danielle: now it's like, are we losing opportunities more? You know, I've Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: seen some articles and I don't I haven't read the research, but I've seen articles talking about how women particularly women of a certain age are at risk of losing their jobs to AI. And we Jaden: Uh-huh. Danielle: know that, you know, since the pandemic, many women never went back to work because childcare Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: and all you know, many other factors. So it's like y we are kind of seeing these parallels of like you really have to dig in and hunker down if you have something that's worth having, it feels like. Yeah. Jaden: Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. It's Danielle: the other, I'm gonna transition us. The other woman Jaden: Let's do it. Danielle: that I've I'm just about done with her section, I think. Her name is Annie Anne Labastille. she is an ecologist, turned hermit, turned outdoor lobbyist, turned professor, It's really cool. So she studied at Cornell in I think ecology. And at a time when, again, women did not really do that. and so she's faced, you know, whatever hurdles were bound up in that. But then I think she had moved to the Adirondack Mountains with a man that she eventually married. And fell in love with the region and somehow secured like a plot of like a tract of land to build a cabin on. And the I wanna look I wanna dig into more of how the Adirondack region is set up. It's very big. So anyway, it's so big, but it's had such an a complicated history with how the land has been divvied up. And then in the 70s, and she sa she helped support this work in the 70s, but it got put under some like forever wild protection. So it put even more like, hey, we can't build this type of thing or this can't be this. But parts of it had already been parceled off. So if you go to this park Some of it is private land. Some of it is industrial. Some of it is like tourism. But it's all part of this park. So she was able to get like attractive land and put a cabin on it and had no power. I I don't think she had running water. And she was like on a lake and she would swim in the lake. Like she had decided she wanted to live this like outdoors hermit life. So she would go and spend her entire year at this cabin. and if she needed to get out, she had to swim, or in the winter she had to like snowshoe across the lake, basically. Jaden: Mm. Danielle: Or sometimes trucks would be able to drive across the lake in the winter as well to bring out supplies and stuff. But then sometimes she'd go to Guatemala for research trips and then come back to her woodland oasis, I guess. and over time she started to see kind of a decline. in the ecology of the Adirondacks and like noticing the wildlife diminishing around the lake, noticing more people coming to the region, which is changing the ecosystem, right? If we have more cars coming through, it's it's ruining the air quality, it's disturbing the wildlife. And so she started to advocate for more restrictions. And also to some who also lived in that area, become kind of a nuisance. Like she wanted to put a lot of restrictions around what kind of boats could go on the lake. And some people were happy with that and agreed with it. And others were like, babe, we just want a vacation here. Right. so she has this really interesting kind of path of wanting to advocate for, you know, ecological like conservation. And she became like a consultant. She was a professor for a while. But always in the back of her mind was this desire to just retreat into the wilderness, right? But as she's watching it kind of get ruined, she can't sit there and not try to help. it's very interesting. So I think I'm winding down on her specific story. but it's been really cool to kind of hear through her eyes how things have changed over several decades. And she's Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: written several books about her experience. but yeah, it's it's fascinating. Like this the tension between wanting to just exist in nature and then Jaden: Mm-hmm. Danielle: also knowing that you have to go out into the world to protect it is really, really interesting to me. Jaden: It's interesting that she has a desire to cut herself off from certain things. that that always fascinates me with people. Like not even just the annoying technology of the world, but like the basic needs of it. You know, you're like, You wanna Danielle: Yeah, yeah. Jaden: li you wanna really live that life? Okay, go fully off the grid. But also sh Danielle: Love that for you. Jaden: she's using the opportunity to like make change and learn and all those sorts of things too, so you Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: is she still alive? She's still down there. Danielle: She is not alive, no, she passed away she she was alive a lot longer than I thought. Jaden: Mm. Danielle: it was two thousand eleven she passed away. Jaden: Okay. Well, that sounds like a really fascinating read. I have the book as well and I'm I'm looking forward to reading it. It's my next book on my list. Actually Danielle: Very good. Jaden: it's my no, yeah, no, it's my s well, okay, it's on my list. Well, Danielle: So it doesn't have to be next, but it's very interesting. Jaden: So my next read is going to be a new novel that is actually written and published recently by a very good friend of mine. And this novel is called Hellbound. And it is by my friend Stephanie Binks. Yay, Stephanie. And yay! Danielle: My god yay Jaden: I got to go to her book launch and she read the what is it, the prologue, I guess. Danielle: Okay. Jaden: And it was so gripping just to listen to her read it. I mean, it's also in the moment. It's just like, my god, yes. But also, it's Danielle: Yeah. Jaden: a really fantastic story, and it's essentially a gothic horror fantasy romance sort of all rolled into one. And Danielle: I love it. Jaden: I'm just gonna give you the tagline to it and then I'm gonna I'll put it in the show notes for anybody who might be interested, go pick it up because it's a great book. It's Dying is all in a day's work for a hell diver like Marion until a routine round trip to the afterlife goes wrong. So if you're looking Danielle: Okay, yeah. Jaden: for thematically kind of that clever, dark this is a great read for you. And it's essentially about a woman who dies for a living. So go pick it up. It's a it's a it is a Danielle: that sounds so fun. my god. Jaden: Yeah, I'm very excited and it's a beautiful cover. She had custom art done for it. It is gorgeous. So congratulations, Stephanie. We're so proud of you. Hellbound. Danielle: Amazing. Yay, Stephanie. Jaden: Okay, are we ready for the hot tip of the week? Danielle: Mm hmm. let's tip. Jaden: Let's tip. Okay, well, something that I have realized over the last couple of months is that I have some incredible gems of material in book form. And I guess we're talking about books today. This is our books episode, right? Danielle: It's a book episode, yeah. Jaden: It is. So the book that I'm reading, or not reading, but looking at right now is actually the Modern Family Cookbook by Meta Given. And this was published, gosh, 1953. I'm sorry. That's this version, but original edition was 1942. So this is We're gonna be talking about home economics and how women need to support their family. And this exp excerpt is actually from the chapter about sandwiches. And I just want Danielle: Ooh. Jaden: to read you the first little part. Okay. Danielle: Mm. Jaden: Take women's funny hats and fussy party sandwiches out of this world, and what would men have to laugh about? But they do have a sneaking admiration for giddy hats after all, and there's nothing secret about the gusto with which they go for sandwiches, even the fancy ones. Men, children, and women folks too will find sandwiches they especially in this varied collection of sandwich recipes for every occasion. Haha Danielle: What? Jaden: So my tip of the week to you is to Make a very simple sandwich for lunch and appreciate the simplicity and maybe if it's fancy, appreciate the fancy. Okay? And just just do yourself a favor and make it easy or make it really, really hard and like delicious. I don't care. Go make yourself a sandwich. That's your tip of the week. Danielle: Maybe wear a fancy silly hat while you do it. Jaden: Yes. Put a hat on and we'll make a sandwich. Danielle: That's amazing. Thank you, Jaden. Thank you for Jaden: Yeah. Danielle: the permission to make a simple sandwich. no Jaden: Being a a woman in the nineteen forties and fifties must have been so incredibly fulfilling. Danielle: Well, weren't they all on something? So obviously it went well. Jaden: I mean I yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, well, this is our chaotic episode one of season two. Welcome back. Welcome back, Danielle. Danielle: Yay. Welcome back, Jaden. I'm happy we're back. It's good to be here. Jaden: It is good to be here and I'm really excited for what's to come on this season. It's gonna be really fun. Yippee. All right. Till next time. Bye. Danielle: Think it's gonna be a great one. All right. Bye.