Latest / Financial Survival Network / Saving Lives With Smart Road Tech - Charlie Degliomini #6254
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So the way the AI works is there's a center
- 0:02Speaker 1: off the side of the roadway. It's looking down, it's
- 0:05Speaker 1: providing a video stream. So not only can we count
- 0:09Speaker 1: the traffic, but we know whether it's a motorcycle, it's
- 0:12Speaker 1: a school bus, it's a passenger vehicle, it's an eighteen wheeler,
- 0:17Speaker 1: or it's an eighteen wheeler, a double squalled, a duly,
- 0:22Speaker 1: or if it's a dump truck. So there's thirteen classes
- 0:26Speaker 1: that the federal government uses for vehicles, and the AI
- 0:29Speaker 1: is aligned to those thirteen classes that provide that information
- 0:33Speaker 1: much more effectively, much more accurately, and importantly in a
- 0:38Speaker 1: safer manner.
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- 1:07Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to the Financial Survival Network.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I'm your host, Carrie Lutz.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Well.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Technology AI is moving quicker than the speed of thought,
- 1:18Speaker 3: certainly quicker than the speed of human thought. And well,
- 1:24Speaker 3: we've got an interesting application here that is really going
- 1:27Speaker 3: to eventually change your life. Well, let's get to it.
- 1:35Speaker 3: And Charles Degliomini is with us now, Recourse Systems. Charles,
- 1:40Speaker 3: what you're attempting to do is to revolutionize the way
- 1:44Speaker 3: highways are managed, effectively reported, where data is collected. Why
- 1:51Speaker 3: did you tell us what you're doing?
- 1:53Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for the opportunity, Carrie. It's pleasure to be
- 1:56Speaker 1: with you this afternoon. Yeah. ReCore is a roadway intelligence company. So,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and it's not Charlie working on AI in his garage
- 2:05Speaker 1: right where a NAZZAC listed company were located in Columbia, Maryland.
- 2:09Speaker 1: We've got about three hundred and forty people, some very
- 2:12Speaker 1: smart engineers here, some very smart AI folks working on
- 2:17Speaker 1: roadway intelligence. And what we mean by roadway intelligence is
- 2:21Speaker 1: being able to look down at the roadway through a
- 2:24Speaker 1: video stream and pull out information about what's happening on
- 2:27Speaker 1: America's roadways.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Okay, so how does it happen?
- 2:31Speaker 1: Now? How does that work? Now? So when you think
- 2:34Speaker 1: about it, it happens in a couple of different ways.
- 2:36Speaker 1: So our roadways are dumb, but our cars are smart. Right,
- 2:41Speaker 1: So the infrastructure that exists on roadways hasn't changed since
- 2:47Speaker 1: Eisenhower was president, right, so fast forward to today. There
- 2:51Speaker 1: is a way to put sensors on the roadway. And
- 2:54Speaker 1: if you think about it, think about it as a
- 2:56Speaker 1: computer operating at the side of the roadway that's able
- 2:59Speaker 1: to interpet data through the AI and serve up better results. Right,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and it keeps because it happens off the roadway, not
- 3:10Speaker 1: on the roadway. It's a safer application to the way
- 3:13Speaker 1: things are done currently. An example of that would be
- 3:17Speaker 1: if anyone has ever driven over a rubber tube, right,
- 3:20Speaker 1: you may I'm old enough to remember driving into the
- 3:23Speaker 1: shell gas station and you drive over a rubber tube
- 3:26Speaker 1: and rings a bell in the back and the gas
- 3:29Speaker 1: attendant comes out to help you with the car. Those
- 3:31Speaker 1: days are over, but America is still deploying rubber tubes,
- 3:36Speaker 1: if you can believe it or not, on roadways to
- 3:41Speaker 1: literally count cars, because it's very important to understand the
- 3:45Speaker 1: amount of volume and the types of vehicles that are
- 3:49Speaker 1: traveling on different roadways, and it really aligns the funding.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Cities and states count traffic and also provide other roadway
- 3:59Speaker 1: information back to the US Department of Transportation in order
- 4:03Speaker 1: to get federal funding for maintenance and improvements of their roadway.
- 4:08Speaker 1: But if you think about it, think about someone literally
- 4:10Speaker 1: needs to dash across a roadway to string that rubber tube.
- 4:14Speaker 1: The rubber tube fails, a big truck goes by dragging
- 4:17Speaker 1: a chain, it gets shrewed up. That roadway worker has
- 4:20Speaker 1: to go out and do that all over again. So
- 4:23Speaker 1: why are we using rubber tubes? Right? It makes no sense.
- 4:27Speaker 1: So the way the AI works is there's a center
- 4:29Speaker 1: off the side of the roadway. It's looking down, it's
- 4:32Speaker 1: providing a video stream. So not only can we count
- 4:36Speaker 1: the traffic, but we know whether it's a motorcycle, it's
- 4:39Speaker 1: a school bus, it's a passenger vehicle, it's an eighteen wheeler,
- 4:44Speaker 1: or it's an eighteen wheeler a double called a duly,
- 4:49Speaker 1: or if it's a dump truck. So there's thirteen classes
- 4:53Speaker 1: that the federal government uses for vehicles, and the AI
- 4:56Speaker 1: is aligned to those thirteen classes that provide that information
- 5:00Speaker 1: much more effectively, much more accurately, and importantly in a
- 5:05Speaker 1: safer manner, keeps people from getting hit and engines. And
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know there's here in Maryland. There was a horrific
- 5:12Speaker 1: story last year about a group of roadway workers. There
- 5:17Speaker 1: were seven of them. Two were family members of father
- 5:20Speaker 1: and son, and four of them that were hit while
- 5:23Speaker 1: they were working on the roadway and unfortunately killed. So
- 5:27Speaker 1: we're in the business of improving safety for workers and
- 5:31Speaker 1: improving the data that comes from our US roadways.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Okay, so how is AI going to actually help with that?
- 5:39Speaker 1: So it helps as I just described, So it could be.
- 5:43Speaker 1: It could be for the for the mission of reporting data.
- 5:48Speaker 1: We talked about Robert tubes. The other thing is if
- 5:50Speaker 1: any of your audience is set traffic like I do typically,
- 5:54Speaker 1: and you watch your guy, the lanes are closed, you're
- 5:57Speaker 1: watching somebody with a jackhammer digging up a roadway. That's
- 6:01Speaker 1: another way to a very inefficient way, another very analog
- 6:06Speaker 1: way of counting traffic. It involves embedding a metal detecting
- 6:11Speaker 1: sensor believe it or not, in the roadway and then
- 6:13Speaker 1: once that's installed, you know, heavy trucks are going over it,
- 6:17Speaker 1: and it fails, you know, relatively quickly. So there's a
- 6:20Speaker 1: better way to do it. And it's the same way
- 6:22Speaker 1: that you replace the rubber tube. You do it from
- 6:24Speaker 1: the side of the roadway, right, you do it through
- 6:27Speaker 1: the AI you're able to prevent people's frustration from sitting
- 6:32Speaker 1: in traffic, you prevent the pollution, and you get people
- 6:35Speaker 1: home in time for dinner instead of inconveniencing them because
- 6:40Speaker 1: you need to send out the guy with the jackhammer.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it makes you more responsive, gives you
- 6:46Speaker 3: real time data rather than having to wait for somebody
- 6:51Speaker 3: to report it.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Right, right, So the Yeah, that's absolutely correct. So the
- 6:55Speaker 1: AI works twenty four to seven. It works in real time,
- 6:58Speaker 1: and it feeds the data. The other systems, it's kind
- 7:02Speaker 1: of a mixed bag. Some of them you have to
- 7:04Speaker 1: go out there and plug in an sd car to
- 7:09Speaker 1: download the data. Other systems are a little more temporal.
- 7:13Speaker 1: But yeah, you basically have that. You have that, correct,
- 7:17Speaker 1: That's that's the process right now, and that's what Recourse
- 7:20Speaker 1: Systems is looking to change, right We're looking to introduce
- 7:24Speaker 1: smarter technology that's going to modernize our roadways here in America.
- 7:28Speaker 1: And people, you know, a little bit of a wonkee subject,
- 7:32Speaker 1: but anybody who drives doesn't realize they're being inconvenience because
- 7:36Speaker 1: they're you know, because technology, modern technology is not being
- 7:42Speaker 1: utilized to the fullest extent.
- 7:44Speaker 3: All right, So do you think that's going to result
- 7:46Speaker 3: in the less highway depths and accidents.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Without a doubt. When you take people off the roadway,
- 7:52Speaker 1: you're you're just lowering the risk profile and it absolutely
- 7:58Speaker 1: has to help. You know, there is another way we
- 8:00Speaker 1: can do, and I'll shift gears a little bit if
- 8:02Speaker 1: if you're aware of traffic management centers. I think everybody
- 8:06Speaker 1: has seen large rooms with multiple TV screens and you
- 8:10Speaker 1: see traffic center operators are looking up at the screens
- 8:14Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out what's going on on
- 8:16Speaker 1: their roadways. So the other application that ReCore system has
- 8:20Speaker 1: built is for those traffic management centers right to put
- 8:25Speaker 1: AI inside of those very very important rooms. You know,
- 8:30Speaker 1: you would think that nothing is quicker than a nine
- 8:34Speaker 1: to eleven call to get an emergency responder to the
- 8:37Speaker 1: scene of an accident. Right. And you know when I
- 8:41Speaker 1: when our guys, when our engineers first came to you
- 8:44Speaker 1: with this new technology, I'm saying, well, I said, exactly, hey, guys,
- 8:47Speaker 1: what's you know. I'm not a technologist, I'm not an engineer.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I'm just the business guy here at Recorp. But we
- 8:54Speaker 1: had a bunch of our very smart engineers come to
- 8:56Speaker 1: us and say there's a better way to do this,
- 8:58Speaker 1: And I said, what's faster than that nine to eleven call? So,
- 9:02Speaker 1: if you think about it, when the nine to eleven
- 9:04Speaker 1: call comes in, the person say there's an accident here
- 9:06Speaker 1: and we need we need help or what kind of help
- 9:09Speaker 1: you need? Police, fire, ambulance. Maybe it's one, maybe it's
- 9:12Speaker 1: all three. And okay, where are you? Oh, I'm on
- 9:16Speaker 1: I ninety five. Where are you on I ninety five?
- 9:19Speaker 1: I think about exit three. I saw Baltimore, which is
- 9:23Speaker 1: exit one actually right in my rearview mirror. Well are
- 9:27Speaker 1: you northbound or southbound? No, I'm traveling west. Well I
- 9:31Speaker 1: ninety five only goes north and see yeah, so but
- 9:36Speaker 1: you'd be surprised, right, So you're at you know, you're
- 9:40Speaker 1: at the whim of human fallibility when it comes to
- 9:44Speaker 1: the nine to eleven call. What our AI does is
- 9:48Speaker 1: we pull in disparate data, not just from video screens,
- 9:52Speaker 1: but from bluetooth data, ways data. We pull in weavied data,
- 9:58Speaker 1: We pull in connect in car data because our cars
- 10:01Speaker 1: are constantly transmitting information about what's happening. Right, So if
- 10:07Speaker 1: we see a weather event and we see traffic come
- 10:10Speaker 1: to a dead stop, we see emergency braking, we see
- 10:14Speaker 1: a windshield wipers activated, four way hazard flash is being activated.
- 10:21Speaker 1: We're seeing information pop up on ways, and we see
- 10:23Speaker 1: the Bluetooth data. We combine that to the traffic center
- 10:27Speaker 1: operator and say look here, you need to look right
- 10:31Speaker 1: here and see what's going on. And it makes the
- 10:35Speaker 1: it makes the response to the incident more efficient. It
- 10:38Speaker 1: also categorizes the response to the incident. We can look
- 10:42Speaker 1: at the roadway and we'll know whether that say, mattress
- 10:46Speaker 1: that fell off the back of a you know, Ford
- 10:49Speaker 1: F one point fifty and is now in the breakdown lane,
- 10:52Speaker 1: or if it's something like a multi vehicle pilot right,
- 10:56Speaker 1: which is which is a much more serious event. So
- 10:59Speaker 1: the right resources at the right time, and we can
- 11:02Speaker 1: respond using the AI up to twenty three minutes faster
- 11:07Speaker 1: than even the call into the nine one one operator exists.
- 11:11Speaker 3: That's amazing.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And you know, we're very proud
- 11:14Speaker 1: of this work. And you know it's live now in
- 11:18Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada. And if you I don't know, if
- 11:22Speaker 1: you guys remember the shooting at Mandalay Bay, right, of course, Yeah,
- 11:28Speaker 1: there was a Luke Bryant concert and then some crazy
- 11:31Speaker 1: guy was hanging out the window just firing down onto
- 11:36Speaker 1: the concert venue. Yes, so we had just gone live
- 11:40Speaker 1: like a week or two before that terrible incident, and
- 11:45Speaker 1: what we were able to do is to help emergency
- 11:48Speaker 1: responders figure out the roadways that needed to be blocked,
- 11:51Speaker 1: the traffic that was building up, what was stopping, what
- 11:55Speaker 1: was going, And we were able to get you know,
- 11:57Speaker 1: emergency responders on scene quicker once again using this platform,
- 12:02Speaker 1: which we call recoor command.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Also, yeah, it's operating in a lot of big cities. Austin,
- 12:10Speaker 1: Texas is another one. Yeah, you know, it depends. It's
- 12:16Speaker 1: it depends on how much functionality you want. Right. I
- 12:20Speaker 1: don't give rices over the air in public venues, right
- 12:24Speaker 1: our customers are Yeah, so.
- 12:26Speaker 3: You know we it millions and millions of dollars.
- 12:29Speaker 1: No, not at all, No, no, no, not at all.
- 12:31Speaker 1: And when you think about the cost of something, we
- 12:36Speaker 1: even have. Look, we even something called a calculator that
- 12:40Speaker 1: we we could tease up information about what it costs
- 12:45Speaker 1: when there is let's say, even a simple two car
- 12:48Speaker 1: accident and and the build up in traffic delay that
- 12:52Speaker 1: it causes, and you know, the the impact on people's
- 12:57Speaker 1: time and money and their ability to you know, get
- 13:01Speaker 1: to work on time. Right. We actually have a formula
- 13:04Speaker 1: for it where you could you can plug into the
- 13:07Speaker 1: calculator and you could see the net benefit result financially
- 13:11Speaker 1: of being able to respond more quickly two incidents on
- 13:15Speaker 1: our US roadways.
- 13:17Speaker 3: That's amazing. So do you think is there a lot
- 13:23Speaker 3: of other companies working on similar technology here?
- 13:26Speaker 1: You know, parts of it. You know, there's a lot
- 13:29Speaker 1: of focus on intersections right now, we don't. We don't
- 13:32Speaker 1: do that like AI for you know, understanding pedestrians that
- 13:36Speaker 1: are in intersections and walking. It's it's something that's on
- 13:39Speaker 1: our roadmap, but it's not something we do. A lot
- 13:42Speaker 1: of companies specialize in intersection kind of AI. But this
- 13:48Speaker 1: comprehensive approach to the roadway is something that's pretty unique
- 13:52Speaker 1: to Recoor and we're we're proud of the work that
- 13:56Speaker 1: we're doing. We think it's important work.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely anything that makes the makes things more safe,
- 14:02Speaker 3: because you know, forty five thousand people a year get
- 14:06Speaker 3: killed on the nation's highways, right, It's it's incredible.
- 14:11Speaker 1: You know, the numbers dropped off obviously during COVID, but
- 14:14Speaker 1: came back with you know, came back with came back
- 14:17Speaker 1: with a vengeance, and uh, and we're not doing too
- 14:20Speaker 1: much about it. You know, you see public service announcements
- 14:23Speaker 1: and you know, slow down, move over when you see
- 14:27Speaker 1: a roadway worker be calf hole. But those are public
- 14:30Speaker 1: service announcements and it doesn't really help in terms of
- 14:36Speaker 1: optimizing a response to an incident. And you know, and
- 14:40Speaker 1: and in the other area too, is why are we
- 14:43Speaker 1: we need to report traffic data. We understand that there's
- 14:46Speaker 1: a there's a federal formula where you know, county and
- 14:50Speaker 1: state and city and governments are funded for their roadway
- 14:54Speaker 1: maintenance and repair and to create safe roadways, and that
- 14:59Speaker 1: that traffic needs to be understood, but why the heck
- 15:03Speaker 1: are we doing it the same way we did it
- 15:06Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, in the nineteen sixties, right, So
- 15:10Speaker 1: you know, it's a if you understand a bell curve
- 15:12Speaker 1: of technology adoption. You know, I was I was an
- 15:16Speaker 1: early user of the iPhone. I think I had the
- 15:18Speaker 1: first iPhone, and people like, what the heck is that? Right?
- 15:21Speaker 1: I was an early ethnology adopter. Yeah, yeah, So you
- 15:25Speaker 1: see people in uh, you know, you see governments some
- 15:29Speaker 1: governments are very forward leaning and want technology. Texas, by
- 15:34Speaker 1: the way, is a great example of this. They have
- 15:36Speaker 1: tremendous leadership in AI and the modernizing technology for Texas roadways.
- 15:43Speaker 1: And we're very proud to have tech stot Texas Department
- 15:46Speaker 1: of Transportation as one as one of our customers. The
- 15:51Speaker 1: other states, you know, they're they're waiting for I don't
- 15:55Speaker 1: know why, they're waiting for something that happened to get
- 15:58Speaker 1: them moving, right, so they come guardians of the status quo. Well,
- 16:02Speaker 1: we've always done it this way, So it's a it's
- 16:05Speaker 1: a bit of a mixed bag, right. So you see
- 16:06Speaker 1: you see entities, organizations, governments very much leading into this,
- 16:12Speaker 1: and then you see others that are just hey, you know,
- 16:16Speaker 1: we've never done it that way before, and it all
- 16:18Speaker 1: seems all new and all frightening. Right. So it's a process,
- 16:23Speaker 1: and it's our job to educates as well as deployer technology.
- 16:28Speaker 1: So we do a lot of evangelizing.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd imagine private tollways are more proactive here, right.
- 16:36Speaker 1: It's a great point. Boy, that's a really that's a
- 16:38Speaker 1: really good one. Yeah, toll operators are are are are
- 16:45Speaker 1: more leaning into all this I would say uh with uh,
- 16:50Speaker 1: you know, with more alacrity than than other entities. But yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 1: they are. Look, they're used to using technology, right, So
- 17:00Speaker 1: every time you drive through the easy path system or something,
- 17:03Speaker 1: you know, your your RFID transponder is saying, okay, I'm here,
- 17:08Speaker 1: you know, pick up my credit card and charge my toll.
- 17:11Speaker 1: So they're used to that. But they so they're they're
- 17:14Speaker 1: leaning into they have a lot of modern technology on
- 17:16Speaker 1: their roadways, and they're they're and but look, everyone is
- 17:19Speaker 1: interested too. You know the Tesla, Kerry, you mentioned to
- 17:22Speaker 1: me before before we got on the air here that
- 17:24Speaker 1: you drive a Tesla. What people don't realize is how
- 17:27Speaker 1: heavy a Tesla could be, right up to five thousand pelles.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So when your Tesla breaks down, you can't get a
- 17:33Speaker 1: conventional pickup truck to come. You need a flatbed to
- 17:36Speaker 1: take that away. Right. So, because our AI knows we
- 17:40Speaker 1: look at the roadway and through that video screen, we
- 17:43Speaker 1: know if it's a Tesla, we know if it's a
- 17:45Speaker 1: BMWY three, we know if it's a Cadillac Lyric. Well,
- 17:49Speaker 1: we know if it's a twenty twenty three red Ford
- 17:53Speaker 1: one P fifty. Right, an internal combustion engine. Right, So
- 17:57Speaker 1: being able to understand and divine this spec specificity of vehicles,
- 18:02Speaker 1: whether it's on a tollway or a state Department of transportation,
- 18:06Speaker 1: or even if it's on a local, county or city
- 18:09Speaker 1: road is really important information and we can provide that
- 18:13Speaker 1: once again through the AI.
- 18:15Speaker 3: All right, all right, so tell us how we find
- 18:18Speaker 3: you and how we connect with you on the web.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Yeah, the best way to find Record and it's www
- 18:25Speaker 1: dot R e k O R dot AI. That's Record
- 18:30Speaker 1: dot AI.
- 18:31Speaker 3: And the link is in the show notes of this
- 18:33Speaker 3: interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. And hey, we
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- 18:53Speaker 3: big innovation out there, Charlie, okay.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Well, appreciate the conversation. Kerrie, thanks and have a good day.
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