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REWIND: Pittsburgh Sports in Movies · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

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  SPEAKER_03: Hello and welcome to a uh very syscall and Ebert style of uh the Pittsburgh Sports Memories podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: On today, we're gonna go see the movies.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, let me introduce myself.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm uh your co-host, Steve Wirt, and I'm joined as usual with my co-host Tim Hammond.
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  SPEAKER_03: And today we're gonna play our, you know, like I said, Cisco and Ebert.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, we're gonna, you know, go through a bunch of Pittsburgh sports movies that uh were set in Pittsburgh.
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  SPEAKER_03: As you know, Pittsburgh has uh, Tim, you know, uh they've been the setting for many movies over the years.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, think uh Groundhog Day, Silence of the Lambs, Lady Be Good, Flashdance, you know, really, I mean just we could name a lot more, probably too, huh, Tim?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, lots of lots of Pittsburgh-based movies for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or Pittsburgh shot movies.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they these are just the ones that have some sort of sport connection in it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Either there's like the actual teams are involved or you know, it was shot in Pittsburgh.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some weren't necessarily shot in Pittsburgh, but they definitely have a Pittsburgh sports team referenced in them.
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  SPEAKER_03: So all right, uh, let's all go to the lobby and grab ourselves a snack, right, Tim?
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: You always like that.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let's all go to the lobby.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I like the popcorn.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I know like everybody likes candy at the movies, but I've I've never gotten candy at the movies, Steve.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I do my dad's favorite was snow caps, and he kind of got me.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I can't find them.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_03: I I haven't seen snow caps in years.
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  SPEAKER_03: The movie going experience has really changed, I think because of streaming and COVID.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I really since COVID, I I've maybe been to one or two movies, and it's probably with my kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's yeah, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's sad because that used to be something I did very, very often.
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  SPEAKER_03: Probably once a month, maybe you know, I'm sure some people did that more often.
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I mean, I think the last two movies I saw were Oppenheimer and the Mario movie, so it goes to show you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I saw the Indiana Jones movie in uh in the last year, and I think that was the I think that was the only thing I saw.
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  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have my condolences.
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  SPEAKER_00: That wasn't bad.
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  SPEAKER_03: Really?
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  SPEAKER_03: Really?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well let's get this, let's get this rolling on the movies that are on our list.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think there's any uh, you know, Ben Rothelsberger is not in the Indiana Jones movies.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no Pittsburgh Sports Connection in in any of the Indiana Jones movies.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: Probably would have made it better.
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  SPEAKER_03: So uh I I rated um you know Cisco Leaver have what their thumbs up, thumbs down.
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  SPEAKER_03: If I I think our audience is probably old enough to remember those guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um you know, I I don't know what else.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I went with um mullets, like yager mullets.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you know, if there's no mullet, bad.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: If it's a yager mullet, it's good.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_03: So because I mean the 90s, and I'm talking like the full-on nineties, the beautiful yager mullet.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just came out of the iron curtain kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good rating system.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's a it's a system, that's for sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um also I'll give I'll give the uh Rotten Tomatoes rating because I I think that that seems to be like at least it's fair.
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  SPEAKER_03: They give the critics ratings and the audience score, so that's always fun to look at those.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's does that seem to be the fairest way like to look at Rotten Tomatoes?
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  SPEAKER_03: I kind of trust their website because they give you both scores.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, honestly, anytime I'm I'm looking at a movie, and if it is something on streaming or whatever, I I do always wonder what it's rated on there, because like you said, it's not just one person's opinion at that point.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it and I think I like it too that they separate the critics from the people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because sometimes people like something that, yeah, I'm sure home alone has a horrible critics rating, but people love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and there's a lot of movies critics love that I've seen, and I'm like, I don't I don't get it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't get what the big deal is here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you can go see the English patient if you really care to.
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  SPEAKER_03: But without further uh delay here, we'll uh get this going here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh the first Pittsburgh sports film up on our list is Sudden Death, starring Jean Claude Van Damme.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I think uh Powers Booth is also in this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's the bad guy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a former fireman takes on a group of terrorists holding the vice president and other hostage during the seventh game of the NHL Stanley Cup finals, which just happened to be in Pittsburgh at the Civic Arena.
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  SPEAKER_03: I kind of also put into bet the best Pittsburgh scene that this movie had, and uh I thought of uh blowing up the cars in the parking lot and iceberg getting killed were probably your two.
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  SPEAKER_03: Iceberg, of course, the penguin's mascot, who was apparently a terrorist.
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  SPEAKER_03: Who knew iceberg was a terrorist?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um it was rated, I I can't believe 50% by the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, but only 39% in the audience score.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, it's just I I give this a no mullet because it's just really just a bad version of Die Hard in the Civic Arena.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean uh what what say you, Tim?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I you're spot on.
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  SPEAKER_00: It it's so this era of movies, diehard came out in I want to say like 1988, and and then for the next 10 years, you had just diehard in a fill in the blank, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh I think there was like a yeah, diehard and an Alcatraz, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Diehard, there was one that was like a tunnel, a diehard on a plane, diehard in a on a boat, diehard, like, and this was diehard in a sports arena.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and it was it's the exact same format of you have terrorists holding people hostage, they're going to do something if their demands aren't met in a certain period of time, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: In this case, it was blow up the arena with all the people in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There they have the vice president of the United States as one of the hostages, and then there's a singular guy who is trying to single-handedly take them out while the like whoever the is supposed to be taking them out, like the FBI or the police or whoever, totally incompetent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can't don't know what they're doing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a whole race against time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they even include um diehard had like his wife was one of the hostages.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think Van Damme's daughter is one of the hostages.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think iceberg kidnaps her.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: So before he gets stuffed in the uh, I think he stuffs him in like what the dishwasher or something.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or yeah, some kind of kitchen apparatus if is what, yeah.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's just terrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's really terrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, but I mean it is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just a it's just a die hard clone action movie, and uh, you know, the pens are in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I think Luke Robotai, uh yeah, Luke Robotai scores the because because the the original thing that the terrorists had was he had to meet their demands by the end of regulation, but Luke Robotai scores a goal in like the final second.
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  SPEAKER_03: Saving everyone's life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Saving everyone's life to send it in overtime.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then and then probably the most absurd scene that people might remember is that Van Dam at some point, yeah, has to dress up like as one of the penguins goaltenders, and then ends up on the ice and then has to stop a breakaway to keep you know the penguins alive and again save everybody's life.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: And he, of course, does because you know he's Van Dam, he can do anything.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he's pretty good at doing splits, so that could be an advantage as a goaltender.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: This, of course, was produced uh by Howard Baldwin, who owned the penguins at the time.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_03: So no idea where Howard Baldwin is at this moment, but he's not making any more sudden deaths, so yeah, probably not out there making Oscar winners.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_03: So uh you're going with my uh no mullet.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: I I I remember being like not excited to see it because I kind of figured, okay, this is going to be a dumb action movie.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but then I remember being a little disappointed just because I mean it was cool.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was like it was again the penguins and the civic arena, but then it was just I don't know.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: I I didn't really enjoy it that much, but that was me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know a lot of people do, and they still like it.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you you had uh Mike Lang and and Paul Stagerwald swearing square.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there's that.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that was a little different.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, well, moving on to the next film, um, another probably not Oscar winner, but uh The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh it stars Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: J, Jonathan Winters, Kareem El Dul Jabbar, Stalking Channard, and M.
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  SPEAKER_03: Emmett Walsh.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's just it's kind of a who's who of 70s cavalcade of minor B stars.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Stalker Channing was in Greece, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: M.
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  SPEAKER_03: M.
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  SPEAKER_03: Emmett Walsh.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to think what else he was in.
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  SPEAKER_03: Fletch?
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  SPEAKER_03: I I I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's been in a lot of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: But and Jonathan Winters is always like a B player.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the plot is that the uh Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania basketball team is hopeless.
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  SPEAKER_03: Could they become winners with the help from an astrologer and some new astrologically compatible players?
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  SPEAKER_03: So what happens is I I don't know if Dr.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: J is really a Pisces, if he was born in March or not, but his character is, so they get all these people that are born in that I guess go along with the sign of Pisces.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they all have to be Pisces or there's just certain signs.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean Tim, you're really into astrolog astrology, right?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I I totally into astrology.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But stalker, yeah, Stalker Channing's kind of like the goofy, like, you know, I don't know what you want to call her, or Miss Cleo, or you know, of the bunch.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh I think Jonathan Winters owns the team.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember Karima Dul Jabbar, I think, is one of the players.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Meadow Lemon, I think, is in this too, the uh Harlevel Globetrotter.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: He is, yeah.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: He plays a Reverend.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um the best Pittsburgh scene definitely is um in the I think it's the championship game.
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  SPEAKER_03: They come in through the roof of the Civic Arena, which still opened at that time because Howard Baldwin, the aforementioned Howard Baldwin, hadn't built his seats yet.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um they come in in a hot air balloon in the the end of their championship game.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_03: So nice, nice.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's um I I think it's I I had fun.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I give it a mullet.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: I I definitely I loved it.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's a cheesy 1970s camp.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, believe it or not, no critics reviewed the fish that saved Pittsburgh on Rotten Tomatoes.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it has a 70% uh audience score, so wow, double the score of sudden death.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_03: Go figure.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: I think this is one of those ones you go with pretty low expectations.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_03: You expect a pretty silly film, and it doesn't fail to deliver with a feel-good ending and Pacific Arena in all its 1970s glory.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's that's fair.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it it's like you said, it's I just love the plot is all based around uh you know the the everybody being a Pisces and in and then the team like gets good again.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that's such a seven that just feels like such a 70s like hey you know, our signs though.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're all you're a cancer, and I'm a Leo.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: If they would have figured that out on like the floor of a disco like dance club, that would have just made it all the more 70s uh tastic.
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  SPEAKER_03: So well, there was definitely lots of polyester and bell bottoms in this bad boy, so I I also like that there's a lot of um, you know, so in some of these movies we're gonna talk about, they have to they have to the cast teams, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And and a lot of times in movies like this, they'll cast real players as you know, maybe even some generic players on other teams.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: And and I think there's quite a few of those guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Connie Hawkins is one of them who we've talked about on the show before.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah and uh Norm Nixon, who played at Duquesne.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Jeez, I didn't realize Norm Nixon would just he's in there as well.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_03: And he would have been uh NBA championship playing for the Lakers at that point, yeah.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and and then uh Gary Tarkanian.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you remember Gary Tarkanian.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Tark the Shark.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's a guy we probably haven't mentioned on the show, but um uh if you remember when V coach, right?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you remember when UNLV was really good, he was their coach, he would always be like chewing on a towel on the sidelines.
• 12:58
  unknown: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh they actually won a championship in the 90s.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: They were they were really good there for a few years, but he's he's like one of the uh opposing coaches.
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  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of basketball cameos in this, circa 1979.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very, very fun and cheesy movie.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: If you get a chance, go see it.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure it's out there floating around somewhere for free.
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  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, definitely a must-see if you're into Pittsburgh sports movies.
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  SPEAKER_03: So mullet for that.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um the next up on our list is a slightly more serious film.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um Concussion, starring Will Smith, Alec Baldwin, David Morse, Alec Brooks, Albert Brooks as Dr.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: Sierra Wec, which I'm sure Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Wreck just loved that, knowing him.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um the plot is in Pittsburgh, an accomplished pathologist, Dr.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Bennett Almalu, is that I president Almalu?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds right, uncovers the truth about brain damage and football players who suffer repeated concussions in the course of normal play.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course, the best I think the best Pittsburgh scene and it really doesn't involve like Pittsburgh per se, but it's Dr.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: Almalu diagramming plays.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: He has no knowledge of like football, but he's like trying to diagram plays.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: So he writes like S and O, and they're like, isn't that supposed to be an X?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, no, this is Steelers, and like what's the O?
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: Others.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: So and there are some shots at couples feel down on the south side that were pretty cool.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: So um David Morris as uh Mike um what's his name?
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Mike Webster was amazing, I thought, too.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um I give it a uh I give it a mullet.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: A uh it's a sure uh it's a scary look into the dirty underbelly of professional football.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I love David Morris and his role as Mike uh Webster.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um it actually has a 74% uh audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, but only a 58% score uh from the critics.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: So take that as you will.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um I remember uh Albert Brooks as Dr.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_03: Recht in that.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: That was that's an interesting role for him.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: But um what's a uh what what do you think of uh concussion there, Tim?
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely a more serious entry on Dorothy.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, sure.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and obviously it's a true story, and it's it's a bunch of you know, Mike Webster, Justin Strozick, and and some of the people that we've lost tragically for the Steelers.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: And um it it definitely doesn't paint Pittsburgh in a good light, right?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like where this football-obsessed town that just feeds people to the wolves in their brains.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think that the work that Dr.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Omalu did was probably important for sure.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um I what I didn't like about the film, to be honest, I I I probably wouldn't give it a mullet, only because it's it's just so like over dramatic.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's there's literally a scene where like NFL goons are calling like his house and hanging up, and then they chase down his pregnant wife, and then I think he has a miscarriage.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I'm I totally I'm sure that in real life the NFL was probably pushing back against whatever they were trying to expose or bring to light.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure the NFL was doing everything in their power to be like, everybody look the other way.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I I can't my mind can't go to you know Roger Goodell, who was played by I think Luke Wilson in this movie.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: So my mind can't go to Roger Goodell, you know, with with hired goons to chase around Dr.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Malu's wife.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I I just I'm sorry, I just am kind of like we need to hire like Rodney Harrison.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds like a job for Rodney Harrison.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like Rodney, you want to pay off some of them fines, I find you.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: And there's scenes where like fans are are yelling at him and stuff.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Again, it does it definitely doesn't pick paint Pittsburgh in a great light, but I mean it's also a true story and it's real, and it's probably we we, you know, we didn't.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: We're, you know, hit that guy and and we didn't, you know.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's good now that we think about that kind of stuff, right?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: We think about the actually like these are real people with lives and and potentially changed the game of football.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's changed, yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: And somewhat for the better.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there are some things like I wish like Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson wouldn't be able to just dance on the sideline.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's part of football.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Football's a dangerous game, people are gonna get hurt.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: And now they're even talking about outlawing what do they call it, hip drop tackles.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: If they do that, I I don't know how you tackle people then.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: So I it it's kind of gone to the other extreme.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's like I under like I like the fact that they got rid of remember in like the 2000s, like people used to like trip and fall and be on the ground, and now they just like touch them, right?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember what happened?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: And like, and this wasn't even a Baltimore Pittsburgh thing, like somebody was laying on the ground.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: People would literally take their helmet and jump into them on the ground.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: That was ridiculous.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: That that was just and maybe even like I loved Heinz Ward's ferocious blocking, but you know, maybe you don't need to block somebody that's 50 yards away.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean that's probably a little unnecessary.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like I said, I important work.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad it was I'm I'm glad that that that Dr.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Omarlo did all that.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad he brought things to light that needed to be brought to light.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought it was so like the movie, the movie just had to movie and make it like super sensationalistic where you know, like I I gave up everything.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: The NFL tried to kill me and kill my family, and you know, I I sorry, I just don't, I just don't.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: I can't again, I not not a bad movie.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Good, good, like good.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I think I would have liked that better as a documentary than a sensationalized, like have to make it super dramatic.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like he he didn't just risk his reputation, he didn't just go up against this really powerful NFL.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: He literally risked his life and his family's life and everything he holds dear just to fight the evil, evil Roger Goodell.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, and well, Roger Goodell's evil, but for other reasons.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's that's and that was such an easy, right?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: That was such an easy target for them to make him the bad guy and make the NFL the bad guy.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: If the NFL, I uh again, I'm sure the NFL was opposed.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: If they were like higher goons opposed, then they wouldn't have made all the changes they made.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: Anywho, uh hey, look, we disagreed on one.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: We really are are are you I I think I'm the e-bird, you're the Cisco, huh?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: More discriminating, artsy fartsy, and I'm more like, yeah, give me explosion.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: Was that Roger?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: That was how that went.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: All I remember about those two guys was I didn't remember who who had what taste.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I just remember sometimes when they would disagree, they would get like really angry with each other.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's good that they are passionate about film.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta, you know, you gotta have some passion out there, right?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: It seemed it seemed a little more personal than that to me, but again, I don't know.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't there.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I'm remembering, you know, TV shows from 30 years ago.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: So well, speaking of TV shows from 40 years ago, um, fighting back the Rocky Blyer movie.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: We're kind of sticking with serious films here.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: Although, I mean, this is a made-for-tv movie, but I still included it in it's it's the um starring Robert Yorick as uh as Rocky Blyer, Art Carney as Art Rooney, and Richard Hurd, who I think was uh Chuck Null, and Howard Kosell as himself.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: So um, so the plot of the movie is football jock Rocky Blyer made it all the way to the pros with the Pittsburgh Steelers, only be drafted in the Vietnam War.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_03: He's wounded by a hand grenade, but then he returns to the US and told he'll never walk again.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: So after uh long rehabilitation, he not only learns to walk, he ends up playing for the Super Bowl champion Steelers.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: And Robert Urick is amazingly good looking.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: And if you ever like, I give this a definite mullet for the veteran Purple Heart recipient, and you know, just great for veterans and great story all around.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um the best Pittsburgh scene was a shot of Robert Urich kind of outside of Three River Stadium.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was definitely edited where like if Robert Urich was like, I ain't going to Pittsburgh.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's like but uh they had lots of other good shots of like the um like the Steelers practicing and such.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just the it's a made-for-TV movie for sure, but it's an inspirational story.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm surprised Rocky Blyer doesn't get more like hype.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like he he's definitely one of the heroes of like especially Ron Veterans Day, you would think him and I mean they used to give villain Laiva a lot of hype too.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody kind of forgets that Rocky Blyer actually was wounded in combat, and it's a heck of a story.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: It really is yeah, it is.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: It is a great story.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um they they do have him, Steve, at the games at the at the games at Aquitur Stadium sometimes.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: They they always honor a veteran uh like around the third quarter.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Rocky Blyers and him and well, I don't know where Villanueva is anymore, but like him and Villanueva are easy gets, I'm sure.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: So he he's usually involved in that.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um the always impeccable timing for that, by the way.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: They use I don't know if this is on purpose or just coincidence, but it seems to me that they always mark the person out after the other team has just scored a touchdown.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody's in a foul mood, and then they're like, this guy served for 30 years, and then everybody stands up and everybody's clapping.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like really appreciative of their service and realizing that football is pretty meaningless compared to whatever this guy did or or woman did that they brought out.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, well-timed stealers.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so you gave it a mullet, Steve?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_03: I I did.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: I did an inspirational mullet.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was inspired.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'll go with you on that.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, uh one other note.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, two other notes.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Number one, his wife in the movie is Bonnie Bedelia, who we just who we kind of referenced earlier.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: He was the wife in Die Hard.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow, nice.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: So just a touch of the six degrees of Rocky Bly or John Mayor or Bruce Willis.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: The other note, you you said it was made for TV, and so it could kind of some of the production value was low.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I think one thing that maybe people that are younger might not remember is for a long time there was this very, very clear delineation between TV and movies.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like TV, if you were a TV actor or TV production, that was just a whole different world than movies.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Movies was like the top tier, the quality, that's where you spent all your money.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: TV was usually done on the cheap, you know, where you had like your single camera sitcoms and stuff like that.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think now with streaming, you have that then you finally had this crossover with like movie stars starring in TV shows.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe even before streaming, maybe even some of like the 2000s era cable stuff that was critically acclaimed.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I don't know, Steve.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like I like I don't know how else to explain that, but you remember you know what I'm talking about.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like that like TV.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, back then, like in the 80s, it it was like Robert Urich would never be in any like I I think he was in some films, but I remember him more from Spencer for Hire, which was an 80s TV show.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, he he was like now if I mean this would be like somebody playing like Brad Pitt or somebody like who's really Jason Momoa playing me in a movie.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's like my god, Rocky, Rocky Blyers to thank his lucky stars because he looks nothing like Robert Urick.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: That was that was a heck of an upgrade for him.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: But hey, good for Rock, man.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm not knocking it, man.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: Who would you want to play you in a movie, Tim?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: What like hunk of an actor?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Are you going with Ryan Gosling?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't know.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good question.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I might go with Tom Hiddleston.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a good choice.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: Good choice.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: He he my daughter really loves Loki.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like anything Loki.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: And and the guy is very charming and he's kind of suave, yes.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: I would go with him.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh staying with uh now.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: This movie is actually a quality film.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_03: Not everybody likes it, but I really like it.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see if Tib likes it.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um The Natural um stars Robert Redford, um, Robert Duvall, Glenn Close, Kim Basinger, Wilford Brimley, Joe Don Baker, Richard Fawnsworth, and Darren McGavin.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if anybody remembers Darren McGavin.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: He was the dad on um what's it called?
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: The Christmas story.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: He's also in uh what's it called?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh uh Billy Madison.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, he's the dad on Billy Madison, too.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean Wilford Brimley's obviously the diabetes guy, but actually he was somewhat of a serious actor before that.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_03: Joe Don Baker, my goodness, I couldn't name all the films.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_03: Joe Don Baker has been in everything and anything.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_03: The only thing I remember Richard Farnsworth were besides this was the PBS production of Anne of Green Gables.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: So Robert Duvall, of course, what what are we looking at?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: The uh oh my goodness, what hasn't Robert Duval done?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh The Godfather, probably.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: He was uh the the conciliary, and of course Robert Redford, he's an all-time greatest, one of the greatest actors of all time.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Robert Robert Robert Duval, by the way, as of the time of this recording, still still with us, and I and I think might still be acting in some things.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the last thing I can't remember the last movie I saw him in.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to what was the asteroid movie, Deep Impact?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: I remember him in that.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_03: And that was a long time ago.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: That was like the 90s.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and he's made a ton of movies after that.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he the last thing I saw him in was the pale blue eye, which was another Pittsburgh shot movie that came out in 2022.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: So the plot of the natural is a middle-aged unknown comes seemingly out of nowhere to become a legendary baseball player with almost supernatural talent.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, the best Pittsburgh scene.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this is gonna be painful for us, Tim, isn't it?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um Pirates Pittsergree channels is in her stand, Belinda, to give up one of the most dramatic fictional home runs in baseball history.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: So there you go, New York.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: Your baseball team can finally win a pedit.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, take that, New York Mets.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but no, the the fictional team is the New York Giants, is set in 1930s baseball.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: Robert Duvall is like the sleazy uh newspaper reporter guy.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: Glenn Coase is kind of like the angelic girlfriend.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: Kim Basinger's the sleazy kind of lady trying to make him go awry.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Wilford Brimley's the hard line coach.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: He's great.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Wilford Brimley's actually really great.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: And him and Farnsworth are really good.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: They're both the coaches of the nights.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: And Darren McGavin's a gambler trying to buy off Robert Redford.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just a I I really like this movie.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's really good.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: It has really high ratings, like 88% on uh Rotten Tomatoes audience score, 83% critics.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a beloved, it's just a beloved movie.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: I came it came out in 1984.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I I still give it a mullet, even though you know the Pirates lose.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: I wish it could have been the Cubs or the Cardinals instead, but I digress, Tim.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: Are you a fan of the natural, Tim?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I love this movie.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: We we watched this a thousand times when I was a kid.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: The music was like iconic too.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that that music when he hits the home run at the end.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um very iconic.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh dun dun dun dun yes.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and uh it's funny.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't for some reason when I was a kid, it it didn't bother me that it was the pirates giving up the home run.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and and it was kind of odd because the team, it wasn't you, I think you said giants, Steve, but it wasn't the Giants, it was the New York Knights.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: So it's Knights, I meant Giants, yeah.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Knights.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: I meant Knights, yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and so it was a Willie Mays or yeah, the Giants win the pennant.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: The Knights win the pennant, the Knights win the pennant.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was a fictional New York team, but then it was like they were playing against real major league teams.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so they're they're they're yeah, they beat the pirates to win the pennant.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we we used to watch this over and over again, but my parents would always make me make us skip the scene where he gets shot.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: So what happens in the movie is Yeah, he gets shot or Jodon Baker, the whammer.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: He strikes out, yeah.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_03: So he's gonna be the He's like a Babe Ruth kind of character, yeah.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: He is, yeah.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: He can pitch, he can hit, he's got this promising career, and then he goes up to this woman's hotel room and she ends up being crazy and she shoots him, and then she kills herself.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then the film fast forwards like yeah, I forget 15 years or something.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's like an old man at this point, and that's kind of the whole plot is that he's he actually gets back into baseball after all that.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: But my parents used to always make us skip that scene because it's it's basically him going up to her hotel room and then her shooting him and and committing suicide.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I think they just didn't want seven or eight-year-old me and my brother to see that.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you and the shots in Wrigley Field, like this like the one scene with gun close and that hat, like they you know they had to wait for the sunlight to actually come through like that part of Wrigley Field.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, of course, Wrigley Field still exists to this day, but yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like I they so they really shot it at Wrigley.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what stadium they used for I didn't look that up for for the um New York Knights in New York, but it kind of looks like I mean it looks like a 1930s stadium with the pillars and the aisles and stuff.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a really cool movie.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you haven't seen it, go see it.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's just a great, great film.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: So you you're a big fan of this, much like me.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, we agreed on another one.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, yeah, I love that movie.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: So let the mullet flow on that one.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: And the next one up is um it's a movie called Chasing 3000, and it stars the late Ray Leota and Rory Kalkin, who's one of the Kalkans that are not named Macaulay or Kieran.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize like the the Calkins are like the Baldwins.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: They're just everywhere.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: So the plot to this movie is two brothers drive across country to see their hero Roberta Clemeny get his 3000th hit.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um the best Pittsburgh I think they're pit there are people from Pittsburgh.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: There's still a family in Pittsburgh, but they moved across country.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: The best Pittsburgh scene is there's a whole scene where they're going through the Fort Pitt tunnels and talking about getting hot dogs at the O.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: And of course at the O is one of the things that doesn't exist anymore.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that scene seems to last longer than it really should to get through the Fort Pitt tunnels.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: Unless their grandfather was driving like 15 miles per hour.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_03: So which could happen in Pittsburgh, you never know.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um Rotten Tomatoes rating, the critics didn't review it, but it has a 62% audience score.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um for my rating, it's it's a little too sappy for me, but I mean, if you like it, you know, that's on you.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just not a big sappy movie person.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's just you know, going to see Clementi's last hit.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_03: Tearjerker all around.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: So what say you, Tim?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I would agree.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's not it's nothing that great, but it is kind of it is kind of neat that somebody decided to capture kind of the the spirit of the impact that Roberto Clemeny had on people, if that makes any sense.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, totally, yeah.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that that somebody would drive all the way across the country just to just to see him, and then of course that like they didn't know at the time that would have be hit would have been his last hit.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so it is I think one of the brothers is has like a serious illness too, and they end up there were some scenes in PNC Park later in the movie that show them going back when they're older.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, his brother is still very sick.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: So Alright.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm not a fan of Sappy movie, so I didn't give it a mullet.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to give it a mullet, Tim, go for it.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: So you're called.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'll I'll side with you on that one.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um next up, Angels in the Outfield, but the original.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: So not many people might know this, but um in 1951, uh, they made a movie about the pirates called Angels in the Outfield.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it stars Paul Douglas, Janet Lee.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who Paul Douglas is, but Janny Lee is known for Psycho and the Charian candidate.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: She famously gets killed in the shower.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: So in like the first half an hour of the movie.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like she's literally in the movie for a half an hour.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, that's it.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Janet Lee's uh she's done.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: But she has the most famous scene.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so the plot is the Pittsburgh Pirates, rash and abusive manager, receives help of an angel to win games and becomes a better person in the process.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: So it's very 1950s.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and actually you got on Rotten Tomatoes an 83% from the critics and only a 65% from the audience.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean 65% isn't terrible.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: And um great scenes, uh Pittsburgh, best Pittsburgh scenes was uh great shots of Forbes Field and the Cathedral Learning.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_03: They actually like took I don't know if it's just B-roll or but it's definitely somebody went to Pittsburgh and did some filming in 1951, so it's pretty cool.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely uh my rating.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: I gave it a heavenly mullet for everyone could, you know, we all could use a little help from above every once in a while, right, Tim?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: If not becoming a winning some baseball games, at least becoming a better person.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: So um there's definitely a trailer for this.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um we we'll have the link on our website if you want to check out the trailer to the 1951 version of Angels in the Outfield.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry there's no Danny Glover in this one, and it's not in California, because that was totally done just because so the Disney probably owned the Angels or something.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: But uh what say you about Angels in the Outfield, Tim?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you said, it's it's per it's like one of those perfect movies for the time, you know.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like like it's it's a kid's movie.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, yeah.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: If it were if it were if it were somehow like tied into Christmas, you'd see it, you know, played at Christmas.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's like one of those kinds of movies.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's the joke at the time was they I think they it was the pirates because the pirates were so bad.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that well, that team would never win.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that was why I think they they picked the pirates for that movie, which is kind of funny because if they remade that today, maybe they could they could pick the pirates again.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but but just a just a footnote, Steve, you you were referencing the remake that they did in 1994 with Danny Glover and Tony Danza.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: That was like you said, it was the it was the what they called the California Angels at the time.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: They might have been Anaheim.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: They might have been Anaheim, but it was the Angels team that plays in Los Angeles, and and to Steve's point, they probably picked that because the well, maybe just because that's where they film it, right?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but but the name one when Pittsburgh tie-in with that, they released that movie in the summer of '94, and they had the uh premiere in Pittsburgh at the All-Star Game.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: So when when Pittsburgh hosted the baseball All-Star game, there was a whole weekend of uh like events leading up to it.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the events, I think it was like the Sunday night or Monday night before the All-Star Game, was um that they they premiered this at Three River Stadium, and Tony Danza was there.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: Danny Glover was there.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: And they and I went to this.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: Christopher Lloyd's in the remake, too.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was not there.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: He might have been the original, too.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: He's so old now.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: I just yeah, he he was not there, but Danny Glover and Tony Danza were, and uh, I actually went to that, Steve, and um and Tony Danza uh uh talked to everybody before it started, and then they showed the movie.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I remember thinking, like, boy, this isn't very good, but it's cool to sit here at like at the stadium and watch this with the with the stars of the movie present.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: So and also I do believe like one I don't I think the link to there's a link of uh like they had cameos in the middle of the movie, like of people just saying talking about because I guess the manager says, Oh, I there's angels helping us.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I had like Ty Cobb.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't know about I don't think Hunas Wagner, I think he remember, I think Honus Wagner maybe, but they had Ty Cobb and they had Bing Crosby, who was obviously a part owner of most of the time.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: So that's funny.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, that's that's Ty Cobb too.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's interesting that Ty Cobb would be in a well, he was like the night he all comes off like a really nice guy, too.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, geez, maybe he is a nice guy, maybe he's not the racist Al Stump made him out to be.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think Ralph Kiner, I think there's some real pirates in there too.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean that it probably proves that, you know, for the pirates to ever win anything ever again, they'll definitely need some uh help from above for sure.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um the next one uh is definitely uh a movie that could not be made today.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um there's no way they would ever make this movie.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_03: They will never make this movie, Tim.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: Ever.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_03: Ever.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's Black Sunday.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, it's not you think, well, what is it, a racial film?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: It stars Robert Shaw, Bruce Dern and uh Matthew Keller.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um the plot is um it's the story of a black September terrorist group attempting to blow up the Goodyear blimp, hovering over the Super Bowl stadium with 80,000 people and the president of the United States in attendance.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I do believe they were actually some sort of they weren't like doing it to like hold anybody hostage or anything.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: They just they were like terrorists there for real terrorists, just wanted to kill as many people as humanly possible to prove a political point.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: So Bruce Dern is kind of the bad guy in it.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: And uh it's rated uh let's see, uh on it's 1977, boy.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um 65% audience score again, and 74% by the critics.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um the best Pittsburgh scene is definitely a shot of the Steelers coming out for the Super Bowl, like the iconic.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: You ever see like where they all the four of them come out?
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's from the B I think it's from NFL films, actually.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: And it's pretty cool.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I think there's shots of the blimp hovering over the actual stadium.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't give it a mullet.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: I I just couldn't get into this one.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: I it's a movie about how could you mave a movie about blowing up the Super Bowl boring, but I don't know.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: Bruce Stern just didn't do it for me, I guess.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, uh so so why why you why do you think it could be made today just like post-9-11 kind of a Oh my goodness.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, maybe we're far enough out.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I think like it's just such a sense of like, oh my gosh.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then like any idea you come up with would have to be so like for this movie to work, it has to be a plausible you know what I mean?
• 40:33
  unknown: Sure.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think you could come like you wouldn't want to put it out there like a plausible circumstance, you know?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: You would have to make it so ridiculous that like, oh my gosh, they have a secret, you know, neutron bomb or something that doesn't exist.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: So I I think if you're making that movie today, or maybe you go campy, I don't know.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_03: It just doesn't seem like that like I don't know.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you think we're far enough away from September 11th that like they can make another movie like this.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean or maybe just people like are kind of done with the terrorists take something hostage, kind of our our thing earlier about sudden death and everything.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Or like you said, that well, and like you said, I think they weren't even taking hostage, they were just like trying to kill everybody, which is really dark.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: So you're right, you'd have to make it, I don't know.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: You'd you'd have to make it different.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the only thing that that I can think that even comes close is uh Tom Clancy wrote a novel uh later called The Sum of All Fears.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: And in in that book, they these terrorists blow up the Super Bowl.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think I think I never saw the movie with Ben Affleck, but I think in the movie they don't make it the Super Bowl.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that I believe came out around 2001, so I think they had to modify it or something.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: Again, everything was everything was more sensitive at that point, understandably so.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean the interesting idea for a movie, but I I don't know.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I there's something about that era of movie, Steve, where it didn't seem like people hired editors, you know?
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in there is some shots of the Cowboys.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_03: The Steelers Cowboy Super Bowl, I want to say the second one.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it was the Orange Bowl, probably.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: The stadium.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_03: I can't tell from the picture here of the little thing.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's definitely an open-air stadium, it's not a dome, but I don't think they played in domes yet.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: So oh well.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I just like I said, I don't I've tried I I don't I mean, I've watched that movie and I just I just can't get into it.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh whatever.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um next up on our list is a Heaven can wait.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: It stars Warren Beatty, Charles Grodin, James Mason, and Diane Cannon.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um the plot of this movie is a Los Angeles Rams quarterback accidentally taken away from his body by an over-anxious angel before he was meant to die.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: He returns to life and then the body of a recently murdered millionaire.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: So it's kind of interesting.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like he I guess he wasn't he gets run over, but he was supposed to, and he becomes like the backup quarterback of the well, I think he owns the Rams, and then he becomes the backup quarterback of the Rams somehow.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_03: And he plays in the Super Bowl.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_03: And um the best Pittsburgh scene, it's it's his shots of edited Super Bowl 14 with like he throws like a pass, or he he fumble like it gets tipped, it's like a lucky play, like it bounces off like they literally have somebody in a Steelers uniform and like he fumbles it or something, or he throws it and catches it and runs in for the game winning touchdown.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: And that's Warren Beatty.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: The only way you know the Steelers in that era could lose is you know, on a Holly Hollywood editing and Warren.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Beatty wasn't losing to the Steelers, that's for sure.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the Rotten Tomatoes rating, oh my gosh, 85%.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: The uh critics love this film, Tim.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: And uh only 68% of the audience.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: I've watched it.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's like a funny movie.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I gave it a mullet.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: It it it's kind of seems like a silly enough comedy.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: They kind of throw in like a romantic angle.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like Diane Cannon's kind of the bad one that's trying to kill him.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like hit her and Charles Grodin, the whole movie, are trying to kill him because they want his money.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: And I guess this millionaire guy was kind of a bad guy, but you know, now he's they've done the body switching thing.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's been done a million times too.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if this is like the this definitely probably wasn't the first time they did it, but I know.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like, didn't Chris Rock do a movie where that happened?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, they they've done stuff like this before.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: What do you what are your thoughts on heaven can wait?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: Can heaven wait for this film?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I my my biggest thought is I can't believe that Yeah, this movie came out in 1978, and the Super Bowl was the Rams versus the Steelers.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: And sure enough, in 1979, the real Super Bowl was, as we discovered recently, the Rams versus the Steelers.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_03: So how about you think the fix was in, huh?
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, the NFL is scripted, so they let the Steelers win this time.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because in the movie they lost, so in real life they had to win.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh fun movie if you're in the mood for a 70s comedy.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's pretty fun.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_03: So next up on our list is a more modern film, uh, The Dark Knight Rises, 2012.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I I know Tim is probably gonna have some strong opinions on this one, I think.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um the biggest scene from this is the football game scene, obviously.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: It stars Christian Bill, Tom Hardaway, and Ann Hathaway.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um the plot is eight years after the Joker's Reign of Chaos, Batman is coerced out of exile with the assistance of the mysterious Selena Kyle.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: And he's to defend Gotham City from the vicious guerrilla terrorist vein.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: And obviously, uh everybody's seen this.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, by goodness, who hasn't?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the best Pittsburgh scene is definitely Heinz Field getting blown up while Heinz Ward returns a kick.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's really dedicated to football to him.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_03: Even when the stadium's blowing up, he is returning a kick.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: With a smile on his face.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_03: And uh he it had starring, okay, here comes the list.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh former mayor Luke Ravenstahl, Ben Rothesberger, Heinz Ward, True Palomalo, Willie Cologne, Marquise Pouncey, Mike Wallace, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Ryan Clark, James Farrier, Lamar Woodley, and Casey Hampton.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think they pretty much covered all the Steelers, and Bill Cower was in it, like in the background too, of the coach of the.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think Heinz was the only one that survived.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I guess if you're yeah, because the sideline kind of falls in.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I think we just assume that all the people that were there are dead, but Yeah, they couldn't kill him because, you know, they they try and kill him, but Heinz wasn't important enough to kill.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't trying to feed into Heinz's inferiority complex.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: No one ever respected him enough to to kill him.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_03: Bane didn't respect him, like man, kicker turning the ball.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_03: That's my best Bane.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_03: So um this movie, uh, 90% from the audience.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: The audience loved it.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_03: And uh the uh critics loved it too at 87%.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: My rating is double mullets.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: I gave it two mullets up on this one.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Totally made the city look great, even when it was being blown up.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: All the cameos by the Steelers, it just it just was over the top.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: It was Pittsburgh all the time, all day, even though like Gotham really in that movie is like an amalgam of Chicago, Pittsburgh, and I think Singapore or something in New York.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_03: So, but there's definitely parts where you're like, hey, that's Pittsburgh, hey, that's downtown, hey, they're blowing up the Heinz Field.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_03: So and it's Heinz Field back then, so we can still call it Heinz Field, right?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_03: Great.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we definitely have a link to that.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um you can go and watch that.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's pretty cool.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_03: Little kids singing the Star Spangled Banner, followed by Total Mayhem erupting.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I know you're I know you're kind of opinionated on these uh film things, so I'll let you have at it, Tim.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I uh not I don't really have too strong of a opinion.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: I the Christopher and Owen Batman film films, my opinion is they're fine.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're fine.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like I know he didn't like them.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, or is that your brother?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, yeah.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: I wish we had my brother as a guest on here because he he what ruins it for him, and I get it, is the Batman sound like that, because he sounds all muffled all the time when he's talking.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about, Tim?
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: That the yes, there you go.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: Perfect impersonation.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, I like they're fine.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't like they're they're entertaining, they're too long, they're all too long, including this one.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: This one, this one I think is the slowest of all of them because it really takes probably 45 minutes for this to get going.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_03: But once it gets going, it's good.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_03: But it just feels like they threw an intro on with some action because like Christopher Nolan is like, oh my gosh, people are gonna fall asleep if I don't do this.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because like literally the first 45 minutes to an hour is like uh with Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle, the cat woman, just going back and forth, and Bruce Wayne goes, Oh, I'm not Batman no more.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I the this one starts slow.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: The Dark Knight should have ended 45 minutes earlier, so they're all too long, and but they're fine.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're like I get why people like them.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're entertaining enough.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: I just like if This is almost three hours long, it's two hours and 45 minutes.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I love the the Pittsburgh shots.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: I love like that's all cool.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um but like if if let me put it this way if this was like the hey, that movie's on cable and I'm flipping through, I'm not I'm probably not stopping to watch it, to be honest.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just not it's I just I'm just not that like I saw them all once and I never really had a strong desire to see them again.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: I really like the Bane quotes from this though.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, clamoring over each other like to see the last drop of sun or something like you know, he's he's sick.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: I guess.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, basically he's fine.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, he's fine.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: I Christopher Nolan, I feel like I'm just that's every movie for me with him.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's either fine or you know, I don't know, in some cases not not so much, but I won't get into those because to way too many controversial and angry emails that I'll get.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Allowed the dis not like something, but it's okay.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_03: Not everybody likes everything that everybody else likes.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's you know, it's alright.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: The the movie I was about to reference was Interstellar, and and it if you just Oh, that's another one that's probably way too long.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_03: He tried to he made he remade 2001, pretty much.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_03: That that's that's exactly what it is.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's it in in our lifetimes, I feel like there's been four or five movies that are just super, super divisive.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and this is one of those movies.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just people either love it or they despise it, and and there's really not doesn't seem to be a lot of in between.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna leave that one alone and say that yeah, very cool to see the Pittsburgh scenes and Dark Knight Rises.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, moving on to a movie that I think we'll both agree on is uh abduction.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a scene in a pirates game.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um it stars Tyler Lautner of the uh was that the Twilight movies, Alfred Molina, and it's directed by John Singleton.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: How John Singleton, the late, I think he's late, yeah, he passed away, uh, started directing action movies.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm not sure, but hey, here we are.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um the plot is a young man sets out to uncover the truth about his life after finding his baby photo on a missing person's website.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_03: Actually doesn't sound like a terrible plot, but um it was.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the best Pittsburgh scene was Taylor Lautner running all over PNC Park, and you know that glass they have over the escalator, he jumps off and kind of slides down.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Slides down, yeah.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um it was uh not surprisingly, it got a 5% by the critics.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_03: But it still got a 42%.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think this is our lowest rated film.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: 42% of the audience didn't like it, so um I didn't give it a mullet.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh much like the Pirates, this movie fails to take advantage of PNC pork.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: And it just sucks, just like the uh pirates do.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_03: So um cool chase scene though.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not a good movie.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was definitely uh meant to capitalize on the the what's the word I'm looking for?
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: The like the teen love fest with Taylor Lyon.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's a werewolf.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yay, I love werewolves.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: No, I like vampires.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Woo!
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: I mean I like vampires, I like guys that are all depressed.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I like werewolves, guys are all macho.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_00: Every generation has their the the poster of the of the movie star or you know, um model or whatever, right in their room.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_03: And for just secret, you're you're Team Jacob, aren't you?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: You you have a teacher, a picture of where's that actor from I mean this was the era of Hilbert Lawner and um um the guy from high school musical, that kid.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Zach Ephron.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's who you have a picture of in your bed, Zach Efron.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what if I do?
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um but but but that was this era, right?
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_00: If you were if you were a a like a teenager or something, he's actually not a terrible actor, Zach Efron.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, I probably isn't really that good.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it it it it just that was the whole point.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like he's in a movie, it's it's all centered around him, and it probably doesn't matter what the plot is.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: People are gonna see it because it's him, and that was the whole point.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure at some point his shirt like magically fell off.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like, oh, my shirt got a spot on it, I must take it off.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh well.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that happens to me in real life all the time.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I must take off my shirt.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then everybody tells me to put it back on, so um, moving on, a movie called Sweet Girl, and once again it's in a pirate's game.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um it stars Jason Momoa and Isabel Merced.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh plot is a devastated husband vows to bring justice to the people responsible for his wife's death while protecting the only family he has left, his daughter.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um the best Pittsburgh scene is Jason Momoa gets chased across the roof of PNC Park.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um I kind of watched how they did that shot.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of the city was green-screened in, but he did kind of go through like a gate where he ends up on an outer part of PNC Park.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: That part was real, but like him running across the roof of PNC Park is not.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's a little Hollywood magic there.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: So um the Rotten Tomatoes rating on this is uh 24%.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_03: The critics did not like it.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um 49% of the audience score, which is actually better than abduction.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: So um okay.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know, the shots of PNC Park looked cool.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: I I didn't think much of it though.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'll give it no mullet sure.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe we should just give it a mullet because Aquaman's in it and he kind of has a mullet, right?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I didn't like this movie.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: I it was another hokey.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, so the whole reason the the the whole thing he's trying to avenge with his wife's death, you would think from that description, it's like some bad guys came and murdered her or something.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: What actually happens is he gets cancer and there's this drug that could potentially, life-saving drug that could potentially save her from her cancer, but this pharmaceutical company and this CEO or the head of this company like doesn't approve or pulls it off the market or something.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's literally the whole thing he's trying to re avenge is a big pharma company not approving or or or uh giving them this drug that his wife needed to survive and then she dies.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's just a weird, it's kind of an a hooky plot to begin with.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then and then his daughter's kind of put into danger for like no good reason.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it it just I mean pharmaceutical companies are evil, but you would think they would make more money off of uh putting that drug out there and curing the disease.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: They could not, but what do I know?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: There's a whole reason.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even remember or care to remember.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it it's it's like it's very forced.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's forced.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just I didn't think it was very good.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_00: One one thing that though, you know, we always talk about like the Cole Pittsburgh shots.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: One thing that almost nobody would care about is there's a scene where I think it's the FBI or whoever the whoever the law enforcement agency is, they're in their offices and they're at their desk trying to figure out the case or whatever.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, those the desks that they're at is the office that I worked in for about uh 13-14 years before you moved to a different building.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, hey, I recognize those cubicles, right?
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: I sat there for years and years.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so that was kind of neat.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, meh.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_03: Alrighty.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh next movie, uh, she's out of my league.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_03: And uh the penguins game is the big thing in this one.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it stars Jay Baccharell.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_03: Alice Eve and TJ Miller.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_03: TJ Miller's kind of a that guy.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: He's been in a lot of stuff.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know about Alice Eve and Jay Bacquerell.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they've been in anything else.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: But the plot is an average Joe meets the perfect woman, but his lack of confidence and the influence of his friends and family begin to pick away at the relationship.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the best scene is definitely at the pens game at the old Civic Arena.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize this movie was that old.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: 2010, so still uh lots of stuff from the Civic Arena.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um Rotten Tomatoes rating, uh 57% by the critics and 59% by the audience.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_03: So definitely better than the last two we've talked about, huh, Tim?
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_03: And um you know, I I you know why not?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_03: I I gave it a flowing mullet because of just the old Civic Arena shots, nice nostalgia there.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_03: And um but it must be a fictional event because the penguins beat the Islanders like when they were playing.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's definitely a movie that that you know loses some credibility there.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: They should have lost the islanders for sure.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: This is another movie you always see on cable, Tim, but and yeah, I won't stop.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'll stop and watch five minutes of it, but I never uh I don't think I would stay and stick around for the whole thing.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's one of those it's one of those like um like Ben Stiller could have been in it.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of those like poor sap guy who you're trying to root for, but he just keeps messing everything up and you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: It it's uh it's it's fine.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_00: I like you said the the hockey scenes, the scenes in the arena are fun because now probably at the time you didn't think much of it, but now it's like you you said that you you can't you that's kind of a little time capsule, so that that was kind of neat.
• 1:00:13
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um next up is um the odd couple.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I'm not talking about the play, the Broadway play, or the TV show from the 70s or the TV show from the 2010s.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about the odd couple movie from let's see what year uh 1968.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_03: And um this is actually this was based on a Neil, it was written by Neil Simon, and it's based on a Neil Simon play.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's actually a very interesting plot for the time back then.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_03: It stars Walter Mathow and Jack Lemmon, who are really good in it.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um a New Yorker newly separated from his wife moves in with his best friend, a divorced sports writer, but their ideas of housekeeping and lifestyles are as different as night and day.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like um I mean, this has been done like two and a half men kind of had this kind of to it, but not as extreme.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um where Walter Mathell is a hard-drinking sports writer, doesn't keep his house clean, whereas Jack Lemon is I mean, now if this was written now, Jack Lemon would obviously be gay, but at this point he was it was just oh, he's just one of those guys that's very neat.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: So Jack Lemon is very neat considerate.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: So a fun fun thing is um they were they're they're filming a scene where Mathal's obviously a reporter covering the Mets in New York because it takes place in New York, and uh Jack Lemon calls him to tell him what he's making for dinner, much like you know your wife would, and uh interrupts uh Mathall missing a triple play, which wins the Mets the game.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um we'll have that linked on uh on our website too.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um fun fact, uh Bill Masurowski, who's actually in this film and batting, kept hitting singles with this instead of hitting it like right to the right to the third basement.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_03: So Mass could do no wrong.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_03: He was always clutch.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um Rotten Tomatoes.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, this is I think this is the highest rated movie on our on our list.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_03: It might be that it's between that and the dark knight.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is higher than the dark knight, Tim.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um 89% audience score, and 98% the critics do really like this movie, but the audience likes it too.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_03: It definitely trends older.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was more revolutionary at the time because I think divorce was just becoming more widely accepted.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of like some of the themes this movie deal deals with is like what happens to men after they get divorced and how do they move on?
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_03: And because obviously these two guys what made it funny was just their different you know ways of living their lives.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_03: So um I gave it the full bullet.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely a great version of the play.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um better than the T she TV show or the remake of the TV show with the late Matthew Perry.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um Tim, are you a fan of the odd couple?
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_03: You probably like the remake with Matthew Perry, don't you?
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_03: Don't you?
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: I did not see the remake.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a TV show version too, which did not who was it, Jack Klugman and Tony Randall, right?
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean Jack Lemon and Walter Mathell just always good together.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, great.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: Even in their older years, they would you know make movies together.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: So they just they had good chemistry.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: And and that's really funny that I didn't realize that that Bill Masarowski, you know, again was supposed to hit into a triple play, and he he kept messing it up by getting getting hits.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's really funny.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's clutch, man.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he just he can't he could he couldn't have actually hit into a triple play, apparently, no matter how hard he tried.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I do believe that's it.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's it for the list.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we'll finish up with the odd couple.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um kind of like I did where we're an odd couple, right?
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'm the sloppy one in here to be more stuff.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take it.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um any comments on uh any movies once I think we missed any sports, let's just force anything.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh any anything we missed any comments, uh, drop us a line in our website or email.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um always good word of mouth, just keep spreading the word.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um thank you for joining us and um we'll uh catch you next time on Pittsburgh Sports Memories.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not best that we've been burnt