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🚁 Helicopter Parenting, Bleached Chest Hairs, and a VERY Special Guest · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a.
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  Speaker 2: D M podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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  Speaker 3: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No Dribble.
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  Speaker 4: Don't tell Mom?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Hello and welcome back to No Dribble in
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  Speaker 3: this brand new Netball year. I'm Carolyn Swindell, writer and comedian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in Sydney and very excitingly, I'm in Sydney with
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  Speaker 3: lots of.
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  Speaker 5: People today as always, Pap Coops.
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  Speaker 3: And joining us in Sydney lose. We're all together and
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  Speaker 3: he the first time. Here's the first time, isn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Wow?
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  Speaker 6: We should have streamers and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We should we should actually just try and do a
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  Speaker 1: good job. Let's let's set the bar.
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  Speaker 3: Chair, come on. But it's even more exciting because we
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  Speaker 3: have an extra special guest today and once again, Pat,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you to guess who our guest is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, stop peaking out of your eyemass.
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  Speaker 3: Did a good job last time. Okay, So our special
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  Speaker 3: guest is one hundred and seventy five centimeters tall, shorty, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what what is an outrage from someone who is one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty nine centimeters were entirely skipping over the
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  Speaker 3: one sixties and you're still saying she's sure. Okay, no,
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  Speaker 3: no guess at this stage. Okay, this person's star signed,
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  Speaker 3: should you follow such things? She is a cancer and
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  Speaker 3: I've given you.
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  Speaker 5: A clue there.
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  Speaker 3: Our special guest is a she.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and do you know what I missed? That took?
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  Speaker 2: No star signs? Don't do it for me?
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is something is This is very interesting because
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  Speaker 3: I actually think the height and this are quite an
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  Speaker 3: interesting disconnect. This person's position of choice when playing netball
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  Speaker 3: wing defence. So a short loser, so a massive team plan. No,
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  Speaker 3: still nothing, no, still nothing. Okay. So when I asked
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  Speaker 3: whether you would prefer a scrunchy or an alice band,
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  Speaker 3: this person said, well, there weren't scrunchies around when I
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  Speaker 3: was at school, so it was just a terrible hairtie. Short,
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  Speaker 3: elderly loser okay, younger than I am, I believe.
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  Speaker 6: So, oh this is real.
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  Speaker 1: You know you've got your eye mask on and you're
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  Speaker 1: going to copy an upper cut, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I suspect you'll get it on this one. So our
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  Speaker 3: special guests drink of choice is either a giant caramel coffee. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: depending on the time of day and the mood, et cetera,
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  Speaker 3: A large glass of rose.
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  Speaker 5: Why isn't always the drinks when I'm the only person
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  Speaker 5: I know that combination is just row It is just right.
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  Speaker 7: And I take back everything now being an old loser,
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  Speaker 7: an old short loser.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you're being punished for my presence on
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  Speaker 3: this podcast. Actually, so the wing defense is something Catherine
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  Speaker 3: takes particular Umbridge at, but people who are short, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I feel your pain, Yess.
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  Speaker 1: So Jess, I love a wing defense because the wing
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  Speaker 1: defenders always made the goalkeepers look good. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're very good at that. Did you what other
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  Speaker 1: positions did you play? Talk us through your long and
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  Speaker 1: storyed netball career. Well, I began netball at primary school.
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  Speaker 7: It was the one team sport that girls had at school,
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  Speaker 7: and I was very nervous and shy as a young girl.
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  Speaker 7: And my dad was like, come on, let's sketch you
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  Speaker 7: enrolled in the team. And so wing defense was sort
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  Speaker 7: of the little apron I was given. And I was
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  Speaker 7: very shy, but I would stand away from the ball.
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  Speaker 7: I wasn't very good at going for the ball, and
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  Speaker 7: dad watched a few games and was thinking, oh, no,
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  Speaker 7: this isn't good. So then he would coach me to
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  Speaker 7: sort of go for it, go for the ball. So
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  Speaker 7: then I moved from wing defense, and then I was
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  Speaker 7: wing attack, and then I became center.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so you grew into yourself.
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  Speaker 7: And then I was goal shooter.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry Catherine's friend looking at the boss woman that she is.
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  Speaker 2: I had to guess from the start, that's what I
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  Speaker 2: want to say, as you played, and then digging.
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  Speaker 1: Herself out of her You've got so much more work
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  Speaker 1: to do, Coxy. Just one of the reasons why we're
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  Speaker 1: desperate to get you on the podcast, other than the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we love and adore you, is we have
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  Speaker 1: had quite the debate about scrunchy or no scrunchies, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of our dribblers love scrunchies. Ms Coxy is
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  Speaker 1: not a scrunchier, but she did spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: her career wearing an Alice band. So you know, you
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  Speaker 1: are an icon of all things fashion, and so would
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  Speaker 1: you say alice spand or scrunchy.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I have short hair, so I don't think either.
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  Speaker 7: Growing up, scrunchies went around and Alice bands weren't a
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  Speaker 7: thing either. So I sort of had an elastic band,
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  Speaker 7: I had a middle part, and i'd have a low
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  Speaker 7: ponytail that was.
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  Speaker 5: That's very trendy, but it wasn't then.
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  Speaker 7: I just I had very thick, long hair and I
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  Speaker 7: just pull it back and there'd be big knots in
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  Speaker 7: the back of it too. And I've got teenage daughters
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  Speaker 7: and they they have actually embraced the scrunchy. They're not
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  Speaker 7: into the alis band and they roll their eyes when
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  Speaker 7: I say, do you know that scrunchies aren't just a
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  Speaker 7: thing for you now? They have been around for quite
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  Speaker 7: some time.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, I need to stop you. Your daughters are quite stylish,
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  Speaker 5: aren't they.
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  Speaker 1: They are?
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  Speaker 5: And are you saying that they're into the scrunches.
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  Speaker 7: Now, Yes, but it's a thin scrunchy. It's not a
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  Speaker 7: fat scrunchy. And you know they're all into we don't
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  Speaker 7: want to damage here, so they're like silk scrunching.
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  Speaker 3: Given one of those by one of our dribbler it's
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  Speaker 3: a thin set with angela, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 5: Traction alopecia, yes, wonderful traction alopecia.
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  Speaker 7: No, what is all these things? I'm discovering.
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  Speaker 6: Is going to help you.
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  Speaker 7: This isn't dribble. This is in fact no dribble.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is no dribble.
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  Speaker 3: Traction alopecia, So this is something I've discovered. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a Google doctor, so nothing I should say
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  Speaker 3: should be counted as actual medical advice. But traction alopecia
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  Speaker 3: when you put the follicles under stress so constantly, having
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  Speaker 3: it pulled back like that, and then people will have
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  Speaker 3: a march back and at their temples. There happens quite
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  Speaker 3: a lot with African American women too, who have their
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  Speaker 3: hair in braids constantly and it's under stressed. I saw
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  Speaker 3: it on Queer Eye once, and.
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  Speaker 7: And ballerinas would have that too, because I did do
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  Speaker 7: ballet as a little girl, and I see end all
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  Speaker 7: sorts of strife from my ballet teachers because I'd have
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  Speaker 7: a few little bits of hair that would be coming
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  Speaker 7: out from it being pulled back very tightly and in
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  Speaker 7: a bun and it hurts like those clips.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you get your perform hair at it
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  Speaker 1: night You're like, oh, this feels so good.
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  Speaker 6: To get this.
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  Speaker 2: As you get older, though, I've noticed that a ponytail
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  Speaker 2: is a good thing, because.
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  Speaker 7: It's like, what's the bowtox? I mean, I do get
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  Speaker 7: the botox anyway, but being you see short hair, I
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  Speaker 7: can't pull it back. But I do find when I
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  Speaker 7: get my hair bleached that that's almost like a mini
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  Speaker 7: face lift because it all do it tingles like a
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  Speaker 7: burn's really bad, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of feel like you.
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  Speaker 6: Leave the salon.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh this is fresh, I'm refreshed, health is burning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my neck bleached. Do you think I'd
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  Speaker 1: get a boobleft? I get those chess hairs done?
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  Speaker 4: Oh no.
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  Speaker 3: I do just want to give a very quick history
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  Speaker 3: of the scrunchy because Chess has raised something here. So
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  Speaker 3: the scrunchy was first seen sometime in the nineteen sixties,
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  Speaker 3: but it was actually patented in nineteen eighty seven by
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  Speaker 3: Rommy Hunt Revson who had a fifty dollars sewing machine
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  Speaker 3: and wanted an alternative to There were elastic bands with
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  Speaker 3: like a metal bit on it that would take oh yes,
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  Speaker 3: remember those. Anyway, she went on. She only died quite recently,
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  Speaker 3: but she went on to make a great fortune. Prior
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  Speaker 3: to that, she had been a house sitter in the Hamptons.
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  Speaker 3: Though so is that is that a rich person? Who's
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  Speaker 3: that a poor person? If you're a house sitter in
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  Speaker 3: the Hampton's, you're kind of both right out that you're
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  Speaker 3: a Clayton's rich person. Anyway, Rommy Hunt Revson, three out
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  Speaker 3: of four of us salute you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's true love for that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just know that Jess is on board. Though
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  Speaker 6: she board, your daughters.
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  Speaker 7: Are, well, yeah they are, but I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not said she's not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a.
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  Speaker 7: Massive Scrunchy fan in I've got shorthand and I have
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  Speaker 7: for thirty years, so I think it's better to have
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  Speaker 7: sort of short hair. And I mean, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 7: pull it back, why not just cut it?
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  Speaker 6: So that just raises a whole lot of others that
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  Speaker 6: puts us out of business.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that does.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what we would talk about on our podcast.
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  Speaker 3: But also I think in a ballet background, you have
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  Speaker 3: a great elegance.
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  Speaker 1: That you have the best, not of anyone that's ever
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  Speaker 1: been on this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so we'll put you down as a fence
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  Speaker 3: sitter on the Scrunchy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you did your girls play netball?
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  Speaker 7: They didn't they My youngest Gisell plays basketball. You see netball.
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  Speaker 7: It's interesting it wasn't offered for them in primary school,
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  Speaker 7: and then in high school there's a team, but it's
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  Speaker 7: not part of the school. So the girls who are
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  Speaker 7: netballers played outside of school and Allegra does touch footy.
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  Speaker 1: So they both do team sport.
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  Speaker 7: They do great, yeah, which is wonderful, and it's I
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  Speaker 7: look and I really I love seeing them as part
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  Speaker 7: of a team. Whereas for me, I mean, this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: I did netball as a young girl, but then once
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  Speaker 7: I got to high school, it wasn't cool to do
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  Speaker 7: school sport, and so it was cool not to bring
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  Speaker 7: your PA uniform. And I look back now and I
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  Speaker 7: think that is so dumb, daft, really dumb. And so
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  Speaker 7: for us we were like, oh no, we don't want
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  Speaker 7: to be part of a team. And I look back
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  Speaker 7: and I think I wish I did play a team
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  Speaker 7: sport then. So now when I see my girls playing
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  Speaker 7: team sport, I'm like there, I'm one of the vocal
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  Speaker 7: but very supportive parents because I cheer both sides because
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, come on, let's be fair, yay, hooray, that's
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  Speaker 7: all well done, good job.
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  Speaker 1: And Michael's like, oh, mom.
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  Speaker 3: Can you just well, I think the only thing worse
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  Speaker 3: than seeing your own kids team getting thumped is seeing
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  Speaker 3: your kid in a team thumping the other team.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's just it's awful.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's I don't mean physically thumping, but like
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  Speaker 3: if one team is losing really badly, it's just horrible
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  Speaker 3: to watch because you know those kids are just having
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  Speaker 3: a terrible time and every minute that passes it gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, and week in week out you think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that poor little team. Imagine coaching them and trying to
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  Speaker 1: get them up for every single game.
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  Speaker 5: Lolli's allies will get them up for the game.
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  Speaker 1: Do you just remind him? I had a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: a friend a few years ago and her daughter stopped
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  Speaker 1: playing netball when she was twelve or thirteen, and she's
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  Speaker 1: now an adult, and she she said to him one day,
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  Speaker 1: I wish you had have made me keep playing. And
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  Speaker 1: it's such a hard thing with a parent, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Because you don't want to push your kids to do
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  Speaker 1: things that they don't want to do, But you also
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  Speaker 1: know that playing netball or a team sport is the
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  Speaker 1: absolute best that they can do. Really, all the way
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  Speaker 1: through high school, and she really regretted because her kid,
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  Speaker 1: her daughter was quite athletic and talent her, but she
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  Speaker 1: fell into a crowd where not just netball, but any
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  Speaker 1: sports sweating wasn't cool. And if her daughter had been
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  Speaker 1: a teenager now, when you know you've got the diamonds
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  Speaker 1: and the Matilda's and women's sport is not seen as
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  Speaker 1: an outlier. It's seen as you know, just like everything else,
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  Speaker 1: it would have made it so much easier for her,
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  Speaker 1: and she probably wouldn't have had to push because a
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  Speaker 1: daughter wouldn't have wanted to. And I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I think back to you when you're a teenager,
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  Speaker 1: imagine it was if it was cool now to have
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  Speaker 1: all these female sporting teams. What a difference that would
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  Speaker 1: have made.
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  Speaker 7: Made a huge difference. I think though, as a parent,
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  Speaker 7: you can't make your kids do anything they don't want
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  Speaker 7: to do, especially once they've become teenagers. You really want
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  Speaker 7: them to be saying, yep, I'm going to do this. Allegra,
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  Speaker 7: who's seventeen, my eldest daughter. She was a fantastic athlete
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  Speaker 7: in the sense of runner, really fast runner and really
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  Speaker 7: good at high jump, and I love seeing her do
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  Speaker 7: that in primary school. But then for her, once high
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  Speaker 7: school hit, COVID hit, so a lot of the competitions
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  Speaker 7: that she was competing in they all stopped. And so
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  Speaker 7: she now looks back, she's in year eleven, and she's like,
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  Speaker 7: I really wish that didn't happen because she was just
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  Speaker 7: starting to kind of get to her stride and go, oh,
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  Speaker 7: I enjoy competing, but then it was sort of taken away.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that's hard for a lot of kids
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  Speaker 7: through COVID that they miss that team sport opportunity or
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  Speaker 7: just competing in any.
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  Speaker 3: Type and even things like choirs like those you know,
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  Speaker 3: the kids who weren't sporting, but those group activities that
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  Speaker 3: they couldn't do. I think the schools are getting better now.
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  Speaker 3: When I was in primary school to high school and
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  Speaker 3: then tried out for the netball team didn't make it.
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  Speaker 3: Now the schools go, we'll have as many teams as
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  Speaker 3: people who show up and want to play, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's terrific. It's like, you know, let's have the g's,
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  Speaker 3: let's have the h's, and have those kids still playing
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  Speaker 3: because if we lose them, they're gone forever. And I
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  Speaker 3: was it wasn't until I was in my twenties that
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  Speaker 3: I went back to a bit of social netball. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously the netball world didn't miss me terrifically
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  Speaker 3: in that period, but.
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  Speaker 7: But you exactly, you missed it and it brought you
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  Speaker 7: enormous joy. And I think being a part of a team, yes,
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  Speaker 7: and celebrating winds together or what going through tough times,
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  Speaker 7: there is nothing quite like that.
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  Speaker 6: It is the best, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: But they've also made it more accommodating, I think too,
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  Speaker 2: with the uniforms and with you know, it's not the
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  Speaker 2: body shaming and stuff there was. I remember playing basketball
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  Speaker 2: in high school where you had to wear your single
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  Speaker 2: and your scongies.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's it.
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  Speaker 5: There was no shorts, no.
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  Speaker 2: Horrendous like I was so horrified, And then you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you're sixteen, You've got a great body.
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  Speaker 6: You just don't think you do it.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, it was horrifying, But now it's so
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  Speaker 2: much easier. There's different options for uniforms for people. If
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  Speaker 2: they want to be covered up, they can be and
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  Speaker 2: then they hopefully play longer.
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  Speaker 3: But this is the beauty of what sport does too
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  Speaker 3: for young women, particularly where for so many years you're
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  Speaker 3: taught to try to be smaller, take up less space,
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  Speaker 3: get skinnier, whatever else. Actually being involved in sport of
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  Speaker 3: any kind makes you go what can my body do
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  Speaker 3: for me? Rather than how do I serve this vessel
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  Speaker 3: that I walk around in that I think is so
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  Speaker 3: repulsive and I just think that's so so sad, But
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  Speaker 3: that sport is the answer.
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  Speaker 1: It is interesting though, and just I'll be interested in
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  Speaker 1: your opinion on this. Like I have parents. When I
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  Speaker 1: was running netball coaching clean it's parents a can't to
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  Speaker 1: and go, oh, my daughter's just started to playing netball,
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  Speaker 1: what else? What extra can she do? And I'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: she's twelve, so no extra, she can go and play
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  Speaker 1: another sport. And as netborle's become more professional, you see
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  Speaker 1: a little bit bit more push from parents, And always
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  Speaker 1: say to parents, don't push your kids that if they
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  Speaker 1: are going to be a professional athlete or a dancer
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  Speaker 1: or a model, whatever they're going to be, it's not
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  Speaker 1: your dream. You've actually just got to support them and
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  Speaker 1: let them go out and get it. And you're a
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  Speaker 1: few years ahead of me with my teenage daughter or
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  Speaker 1: nearly teenage daughter, like what's your advice in that regard, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know when to push and when to
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  Speaker 1: sit back and just support. Sometimes I need to push,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes you just got to sit back and go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard.
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  Speaker 7: I don't have a simple answer, and I'm someone who
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  Speaker 7: I'm not good at pushing. I've never been someone who's
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  Speaker 7: sort of said, oh, I'll try this, do this, do that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm more I'm a helicopter parent, but I'm a nurturer,
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  Speaker 7: so I'll sort of say yes, do that. Oh, well done.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't matter that you came last.
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  Speaker 6: I'll give you a metal leaning away.
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  Speaker 7: I can't both parents, but you know you've participated, so
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  Speaker 7: that's so good. And I just like my girls to
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  Speaker 7: find what it is that they love doing and try
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  Speaker 7: and work out ways that I can support them to
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: make that work as opposed to pushing them and teenagers
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: as well. The minute you suggest that might be a
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: good idea, there's the eye roll or as if for
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: what would you know? And that's when you sort of
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: do have to bite your tongue and sort of think, well,
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: I do know, but they don't.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: And sometimes as a parent, you want to fix it,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: don't Oh, you just have to be like, oh, it's
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: going to let you make your own.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Mistake, and I'll be here with the safety in it.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: When it all falls down.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I did see something the other day on Instagram that
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: made me laugh. I want my kids to follow their dreams,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: unless I've already paid the term fees, in which case
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: they can keep on this activity for return until they
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: follow their dreams.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: It's like damn right. But there is also something in
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: that about teaching your kids that once you start something,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you actually have to finish it. Like I think it's
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: all about supporting your kids and not pushing them, but
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: if they come to you and say I want to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: join a team and then halfway through through the season
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: they're like I don't know, you actually have to make
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: them keep turning up to training because it does take.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's one of the lessons of sport is finish what
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you say you're going to do, and then we can
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: talk about what you do.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: Oh, Liz, that's pretty tough. I must say I'm a
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: bit slack in oh regard when there's well but when
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: there's touch footy and it's rainy, and there are some
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: mornings where I'll be looking out the window on a
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: Saturday morning, thinking please just rain a little bit more
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: so then I can stay bed, please please please. So yes,
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: there are kind of some moments where I go, we don't.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Have as well, but if it's raining, and then I
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: get the call saying it's okay, you said your play.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Your teammates will turn up. Don't let them down, you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: know what.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: I've got to be honest and say that. There have
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: been times when my when I've actually said, that's all right,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: you can stay in bed. I know, I know, but
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: if you were mine, I am a soft touch, like
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of like, all right, that's okay, and.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Then I have my giant caramel. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: How boring is it? Always being a grown up? Though?
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It's like can someone else just do this? Can someone
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: else make this child go and do what they have
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: It is so tedious.
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: It's like having to cook every single night. I'm like, really,
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: why do I have to come up with them often?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Sometimes it is toast. It might be baked beans on toast,
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: can spaghetti on toast. On a Sunday night, I'm like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: this is fine. It's cereal. Cereal for dinner can be fun.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: My favorite.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: I know you're a big cook.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: You like to prepare.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So for many years, or a couple of years, Catherine lived
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: with Matthew and I and every night I would be
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: cooking dinner. But then when I went away and get
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: home and I'd say, what did you have for dinner?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: What did you have for dinner?
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: We loved it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's so good.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Sometimes it's like yes, So if my husband Petie, who
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: reads the news in Sydney for Channel nine, if he
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: has a work commitment and isn't coming home going out
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: for dinner, I'm like, yes, so then we will have
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: the toast, all the cereal. I don't have to cook
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: a proper meal.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Oh they are good. I did try.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: I did try frozen mash the other day and it
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: was terrible.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, does that surprise you in any way?
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: I'm an optimist and someone had suggested it's a shortcut,
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: so I thought, yes, anything for short cut. It was appalling.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I couldn't had to perfect that actually and make it tasty.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And that's the three glasses of rose first, and it's like, whatever,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: just give me the frozen man.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Should you heat it up first?
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Though?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Frosted perform?
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah? You de frosted in the mic. Then I added
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: heaps of milk and butter. But it was appalling and
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: my girls were like, Mom, this is rubbery.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: But it was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: But it doesn't fix it. It's never going to be fixed.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like we shouldn't end our conversation on that note, Jess,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: because what we've seen is that your kids don't have
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to go to sport if it's raining, and that you're
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: serving up pros and mashed potato. But we know that
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: you are an extraordinary role model for women around Australia,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and particularly no more so than for your own daughters.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: But we've run out of time.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Oh what.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: First guest set the benchmark incredibly high.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Here's two wing defenses everywhere.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Dribble on.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: That was Jess. Thanks so much for joining us.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Jess, Thank you?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, how good was it to Jess here?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I knew she was a shooter, though.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You can tell she's got the part of a wing
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: defense though doesn't She might have the beauty of a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: goal shooter, but she's got the heart of a wing defense.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, we all started in positions we didn't end
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: up playing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: This is true for you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: What did you start it sena, and then I went
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to shooting and then I ended up because I was
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a ballhog, right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. And then you got to the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: shooter and they went, what did you start as wing attack?
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Did you?
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: And then a defender my whole junior Rep's career the attack, yes,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: and a rubbish defender.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So when did you move sixteen?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And did you really work hard to get yourself into
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that position or did someone go.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Someone moved me. You're actually not very good there the.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Other close to the hoop just put.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Anyway, So there you go. Earn the rooster's history.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: No, some of us played our entire career in the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: same third of the court. So yeah, I never made
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: it into either of the goal.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: If you could play anywhere else where, would you have
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: played gold defense, gold defense, yeah, oh mongrel, Yeah, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: would have done some damage to It.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Was really frustrating when I first started coaching my girls,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the under eight Skirls, and they just they had no urgency.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: And then the end I had to say that can
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you just pretend there's fifty dollars take to that ball
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and if you can get the ball that it's yours
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to keep, And they went, oh yeah, got it because
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I was just getting foxed.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Oh no, after you, after you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: It's like here if you need is very nice, but
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: it is not for every single occasion.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like some of the ads as well, winning
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: is it everything? And I'm like who wrote them?
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Who's in charge of this?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: If you don't want to win? Is there another reason
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to get and get out of bed?
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: All about winning?
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Well, a number of our teams are looking forward to
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: next year and clearly have an eye on winning and
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: getting into the finals. So we've had some really interesting
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: signings coming up. But we've got Mary Cholok who's going
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: to the FIREBDS.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Where's Mary from Uganda?
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Win ning?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: She's great much she's from Uganda, but she's via Lightning
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: UK in the UK Super League where she's just dominated.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, fantastic.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: She was the one that everyone had their eye balls
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: on at the World Cup, so you just knew at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: some point she was going to pop up what.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Everyone had their balls on the word who pausefortunate pause.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Unfortunate for her?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: No, but everybody was watching because she was an absolute
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: superstar and you just knew that the little recruiting binoculars
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: were out and someone was going to pick her up
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: at something.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So she's twenty seven, she's it's not like she's a kid.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So has it just taken her this long termt sort of?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, because I hadn't noticed her before
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it any major tournaments prior to that, and then she
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: just dominated and suddenly we're like, oh, we want that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: We'll have that over here in our league, thank you
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: very much.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So what do you think prime age? PK t Neett
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Bawler is, Oh, it's not. It's not fifty two and
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: forty eight the way.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Sadly, I was at my best when I was in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: my thirties really, but you sort of think by twenty
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: seven that someone's probably seen you. But maybe by the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: like she had to get over to England first and play,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and then that World Cup.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Ye really put her on the stage.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So it's just I guess, you know, if you're an
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: overseas athlete, you're not coming through our talent development system,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: so you're going to turn up that a little bit later.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Cool.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So we've got quite a few internationals and there's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: lot of talk on the netball chats about the pros
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and cons of having the international players in our competition.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Obviously it does mean that there are positions that Australian
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: netballers cannot play, but I'd be very interested to hear
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: what you two think about what the league should be
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: doing there and what this means for Australian netball.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So I know that there's lots of chat about it,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and you do want to make sure that if you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: are funding a high performance league like super Netball, that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it is part of your high performance program for athletes
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to come through. And when super Netball was established, it
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: was established with the idea that it was unlimited internationals
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that's been great for our game. Australia
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: World champions Yes, we've been We provided world class daily
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: training environment for athletes from around the world and we've
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: seen the rise of England and Jamaica in particular, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: we've also seen the slippage of New Zealand because they
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: haven't had athletes in super Netball. So you know, on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: one hand, we're getting athletes who you know, we don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: have as many Australian athletes as we would like into
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: super netbaw because there are imports. But on the other hand,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the ones who were in playing super netbal are playing
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: week in week out against the best best players in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the world. So you know, we used to turn up
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to a World Cup. I remember my first World Cup.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I played against a Jamaican goal shooter whose name is Cricket.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I can't, for the life of you remember her first name, Patricia. No,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I can't remember her last night. That's because I'm old
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and halfway through menopause and so I have no memory.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But she was amazing. She was just like Ramelda tall
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: engine or tall and just dominating. But it took me
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: forty five minutes to figure out what to do because
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it before. Is if she was in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: our league, of course, you sort of know how to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: approach these things. So I know that there is talk
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: about the fact we should limit imports. I'd actually rather
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: grow the league. I'd actually rather have more teams so
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you get more contract places for Australian athletes.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Because when we started, there was a rule that was
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: only one import per team. Wasn't there back when it
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: was CBT or whatever it was.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, in CBT wh when I was playing, there
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: was no money to pay imports. There was no imports.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But when A and Z Championship started, it was it
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: was one per team.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, just to try and keep that balance.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But I mean I take off my now sorry player moment.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Come Wealth Bank Trophy. I was thinking cognitive behavior theory.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: Come.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: That's when Cathroine and I play. And then it was
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: A Champs, when it was Australian, New Zealand went into
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: sun Corps. So there's sort of three distinct periods and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: so it was national, yeah, national. So when I played
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and Catherine played together, you could not have well it's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: not that you couldn't have imports, just no one really
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: did because there was no money. And then the next
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: iteration of that was A and Z Champs where you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: could only have one import.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think because they want a sensation to keep those
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: spots for the Australian players that you talk about.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And there are only five Australian teams remember and five
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: New Zealand teams.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but the difference is now, like if I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: take off my athlete hat and put on a commentary hat.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: We want those players here because it's by far a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: better competition. But as you say, they take those skills
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: back to their countries, lift their countries up so then
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you have this much better World Championship competition as well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: instead of being Australia and New Zealand in the final
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: every single year since the start of the thing. There's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: been some change ups in recent times because of these
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: players skill levels improving and so it's a different thing
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: because as the Australian coach, I'd want no imports here
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Although if you're Sarah klou and you've been playing with
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Helen howse an entire season, you've been playing against Ellen
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: or cardwell, it's going to really help, I imagine.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so like I reckon Stacy Marinkovic would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: probably like to have the imports from a high performance
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: point of view, you but if you're a young player
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: looking it must be really difficult. So that's where you know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Netball Australia and Netball in Australia we have to work
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: out how do we keep these young players engaged, to
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: give them a high performance thing to strive for, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: then more contract places at the top level.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Bring it on, get Ontolizabeth, I'll add it to my
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: list of.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Right after, you know, try and get us into the Olympics.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Well, it's been an interesting trading period, hasn't it, And
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I'm again just looking forward to next year. It is
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: very exciting this netball year. Sorry, I know I've just
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: muddied the whole year's thing now with the whole netball.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Financial years and netball years actual years.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: If I ring my account and start talking about imports,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: don't like what I'm sorry?
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Wrong tax in here either, ye.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. So one of the things we forgot to do
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: when we're all together in studio, and I think it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: because we were so excited the most important thing we
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: do every week, which is our win beneath our wings nomination.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So we've gathered together again. Kath and I are here
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: in Sydney and Liz on the North Coast to talk
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: about our win beneath our wings nomination. And we do
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: have one, don't we?
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: We do?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's the gold Stars flying out the door
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: again because not only is it Act again, ACT left
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: us hanging for such a long time and now and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: then boom boom, no two of them and it's a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: voice not yeah, Well, let's have a.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Listen, hey, Liz, Catherine and Carolyn.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: It's another Liz here on Liz van Vliet and I'm
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: nominating my daughter Kate van Vliet for the Winged Beneath
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: Your Wings. She is twenty three twenty turning twenty four.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: She's been playing netball since she was eight, but more importantly,
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: she has been volunteering since she was around eleven as
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: a coach in support being younger netballers. She's never was
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: never going to be a great netballer, but she has
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: uplifted and elevated so many little girls And right now
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: she's in the act where she volunteers as a coach
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: at Canberra Girls' Grammar. Just to give you some context,
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: she went down to Canberra as a university student at
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: a and U.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: She's graduated and.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: Got her first professional gig at Ernstein Young Consulting and
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: within two months she had asked them if she could
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: have Monday afternoons as time for her to be a
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: volunteer coach in order to coach a little bunch of
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: little netballers. So this is somebody who for half her
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: life at twenty three twenty four, has been the wind
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: beneath your wing for so many netballers who still remember
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: her and love her as a coach. She also umpires
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: and sadly no longer plays. She could not, for the
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: life of her get the three foot rule.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Well that is Liz vandleet and what a beautiful nomination
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: of her daughter, Kate, And I will say a couple
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago our other act nomination was Aaron TMB
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: nominating her mother Lisa. So this is a beautiful yin Yang,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: isn't it? Mother daughter? Man? How good is netball? So
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: thank you Kate. You are the wind beneath our wings.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: And how proud is your mother of you as she
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: should be.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: That's just keeping the wine within the family.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure you hit your mother up for your
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: share of that wine. But that's all we've got time for.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So and a reminder that tomorrow, the twenty second of August,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: tickets will go on sale for the No Dribble Live thing. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that is exactly one month until the Diamonds take the
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: court with the Brush Roses at Cutos Arena. All of
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the links to buy tickets and the like are in
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: the show notes here. However, you're listening to the podcast
• 31:06
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• 31:08
  Speaker 3: to be super fun. It could be a bit loose,
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  Speaker 3: so remember this is in all ages. Event but you
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  Speaker 3: need to make an informed decision about whether this is
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  Speaker 3: something you want your kids to be listening to. If
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  Speaker 3: you don't think they're ready for this podcast. They are
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: definitely not ready for what could happen in a live event,
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  Speaker 3: but you know they are very welcome, So yeah, buy
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  Speaker 3: your tickets. There are a limited number, but we are
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  Speaker 3: so looking forward to seeing as many of you as
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  Speaker 3: can make it, and we are looking forward to a
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  Speaker 3: fun day. And then we all go over to Cutos
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  Speaker 3: Bank Arena together and cheer, I assume mostly for the Diamonds,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm hoping that there will be some people there
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  Speaker 3: who are cheering for the English Roses as well.
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  Speaker 5: Side note, I'm not coming unless it is loose.
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  Speaker 6: They're nice.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, once again, we could be talking for hours,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, let's come back and talk for hours
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  Speaker 3: overcoming weeks because we're out of time now. But thanks
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  Speaker 3: everyone for joining us again on a fantastic episode of
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  Speaker 3: No Dribble. I'm Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm lose alas I have been for quite some times.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, have you have fifty something? And I'm Catherine Cox
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  Speaker 5: and we haven't ford the place down.
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  Speaker 6: The three of us in the one.
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  Speaker 7: Room who winning right.
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  Speaker 3: Squad's on the way, let's bail See you next week.
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  Speaker 1: Dribblers have a good one.
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  Speaker 2: F