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Episode 4: Anthony Tri · Random Ass Dudes Podcast

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Got our guest here Anthony Tree excited to have you what's up
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guys? And we're going by tree, right?
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Is that, is that what we? That's all we.
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That's all we call you is tree everybody.
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Calls me tree. That's it.
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Love it. Nothing.
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Else love it love it. Well, welcome.
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Glad to have you, super excited to kind of hear your story, get
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to know you a little bit, you know, just really get to go with
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what's going on in your life and, and see what you got to
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share with us. Yes, Sir.
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So what do you I mean Asian cowboy, what do?
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You all know. You're like the only one that I
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know. Oh, I guess I, I don't like, I
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feel special about it because everybody kind of recognizes
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that and my family kind of thinks I'm crazy about it.
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Oh really? You know, getting all horses,
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doing all this stuff, you know, like, why are you doing that,
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doing this, doing whatever. I was like, no, I love this.
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I love what I'm doing. I'll keep going.
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I'll fucking die on a horse versus there.
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We are. So what is your nationality
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then? Vietnamese, Chinese and Laotian.
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Laotian. OK, so I was an assy because I
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know we've talked about like Laos, right?
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That's Laos. And I always thought like OK,
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Americans are called Americans. And I was thinking like, what do
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I call people from Laos like Laotians or But it's Laotians.
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Laotians, Laotians. It's the same thing really.
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It's just the way through. Are you first generation
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American or are you from? Where are you from?
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I was born and raised in Arizona.
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OK, but so depending on what side, my family, technically I'm
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the first generation on my dad's side.
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OK. Second generation on my mom's
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side, so she was born here and then they kidding me?
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OK, awesome. So what brought?
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So is your dad that came to the States then, right?
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Yeah, he, he had a rough upbringing, so it kind of he had
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the opportunity to come over here and took it.
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What my mom did, all that had me had my brother.
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And where's his? History.
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Now he's got a cowboy for a son. Oh yeah, that that that was a
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little. Does he brag?
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Do do you think he brags like, hey man, my son, hey.
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No, my family kind of not, not my dad, but everybody else is
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like, oh, that's cool, you know, when are you going to get out of
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it? Yeah, I'm like, I don't think.
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So this is who I am. This is This is forever.
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Cornbread. I'll do this.
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The rest? Die on a horse.
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Yeah, So what? Like, obviously your family's
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not into it. How?
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Like how did you get into this lifestyle?
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It was mostly, so I grew up around mostly a white high
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school school education, so I kind of wanted to fit in.
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So I started wearing boots, did that deal, and then, oh, what's
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it? I started working at a
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distribution center out in What the hell?
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And one of my coworkers knows that I was wearing bases like,
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oh, have you ever ridden the horse?
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No, they're like, oh, my stepdad trains horses.
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You go on, get on one of his Brooklyn.
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So I was like, yeah, I'll try it after that.
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How old were you? 2021.
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Oh, wow, So this is relatively new, Yeah.
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OK, I kind of, I took all of it to heart.
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So it was, I fell in love with it.
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I did that. I rode the horses for him for
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two years for free after I got off work just to kind of hone my
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skills trying to do that, trying to catch up.
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And after that, it was now I started, then I started actually
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riding for him, got into that deal.
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He was a what was it? He's a Co starter.
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He was big in Waddell for it. He had some raining horses that
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went big. He had some barrel horses.
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He was mostly known for putting that foundation on him.
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Oh, OK. Dad broke, didn't want to.
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No scare, no nothing. True blue fucking arena horses.
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Performance horses, yeah. And, and those were the horses
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you were riding. Those were in the beginning,
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yeah. It was like, hey, I got this
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one. You want to ride it?
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Were you just riding them to leg them up or were you doing any
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sort of training or anything like that at?
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This point I was just kind of just riding, trying to learn.
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He just put miles on, just trying to get that experience.
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And in the meantime, if I ask questions, I'd ask.
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And it was like, hey, you're a good hand.
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You ride these horses, you don't care what you get on, Maybe I'll
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hire you. And after that, I work for him a
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year, year and a half and then just got into the whole cowboy
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deal with his Ferrier. He day works up north up in
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Williams for some big ranch. So he was like, hey, my buddy
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bailed on me. Want to want to come day work
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for four or five days. I was like, yeah, let's do it.
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So. What would you call day work?
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Day work is horseback, anything horseback, pushing, gathering,
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sorting, that's it. That's what I consider other
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people called day work, fence work, everything.
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But I what I'm used to is just let's get on a horseback, Let's
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find these cows, let's gather, let's do this, let's do that.
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It was our it was their fall. Their fall works.
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So it was just like we have to gather, sort whatever off, and
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then we just push them up to one impression.
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So I think the interesting part was what you said in the
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beginning is that I've worked for two years for free.
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Yeah, right. To learn the lifestyle.
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And there's a lot of people out there.
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I mean, we hear it all the time. You know, I want to live your
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life. I like, this is my dream life.
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And we're like, you don't realize what it takes to live
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that kind of lifestyle and the commitment and the effort that
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it takes. And like for somebody like
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yourself to want to learn to start cults and to work horses
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and to get into that lifestyle, like legit get into the
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lifestyle. You did it for free for two
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years risk. And, and let's be honest, like
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when you're getting on a quote, you're risking your life every
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time you jump on, you don't know what that sucker is going to do.
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You know, you may end up broken back or whatever it may be.
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We know a lot of people that that happens to.
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But I think those that are young and are listening to this need
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to understand that sometimes, you know, the life lesson is
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sometimes at your cost, right? That was your cost of two years.
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So it's a beautiful part of what you were saying and and what it
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takes to get into this. So were you working that two
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years that's all you were doing or did you have a nine to five
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job or? No, I had a regular nine to five
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job, so as soon as I get off, they only live like 5 miles away
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from where I work. So it was it was just easy and
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he just taught me the ropes. You know, it was like, oh,
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you're not going to get good at riding just by riding 11 horse.
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Sure. Ride multiple horses, ride
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multiple miles, do all that different saddles.
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I didn't. I don't.
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I didn't have a saddle until a year ago.
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On. My own so I just been using his
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saddles. And how old are you right now,
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2424? So I I knew I was going to get
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somewhere when he started recommending me to get on just
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horses. It don't matter.
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Hey, I have a client. They might not.
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They don't think they could afford it.
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So why don't you hop on, see, give them your opinion.
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Yeah. Cool, because you can stick,
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yeah. Right Colts, I could stick
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pretty good, but the way he starts them most of the time,
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first ride, first, second ride, anyway, they weren't going to
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bug. So it was just that mentality
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of, oh, it might happen, it might not, but most of his
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horses didn't buck it all. Gotcha.
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Yeah, that's, that's a an amazing horse trainer if you're
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getting to the point where they're not bucking that fast.
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I mean, we just kind of started down that path of breaking
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horses at my place, you know, I mean, we have a three-year old
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there right now. We're bringing in a 1 1/2 year
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old this weekend. And my brother-in-law does it
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because I'm not, I'm too damn old to be jumping on these wild
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suckers, you know what I mean? But it's, it's cool to hear, you
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know, somebody like yourself, you're 24.
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You said you've been doing this for about four years.
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You put two years in of not getting paid right and
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essentially putting sweat equity in.
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But that's the part that that that I find fascinating is, is
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that you wanted it so bad. You were willing to work at 9:00
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to 5:00 and then go out after and then put all that sweat
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equity in to learn the process of breaking horses.
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And, you know, you think if you can get to the point where
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you're turning out raining horses and barrel horses like
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this guy does, you know, people don't understand how much money
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is in horses. It's hundreds and hundreds of
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thousands of dollars and millions of dollars.
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When you go to some of these events, you know, you get lucky
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and get a couple of really, really good horses that are
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young and, and get somebody like yourself that can turn them into
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something special. And you're sitting on a gold
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mine. Oh yeah, you know, but, well,
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you also have that risk of injury or, you know, where the
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horse just doesn't pan out the way you want, right?
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Yep, because you're because those horses are being bought
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for their blood like. Silent scene, basically just
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based off their bloodline. So they're like, oh, this horse
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they get, this horse they get, maybe they do, maybe they make
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something that would be worth it.
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So it's that gamble. Right.
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So most of the time it works, sometimes it doesn't, and then
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you just got to figure out how to get out of that hole.
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So as a kid there was no interest or no knowledge of
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cowboy and or or anything like that.
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I want to say no knowledge. I kind of, my family is a big
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outdoor family. We camped, we did all that.
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So every so often we'd be camping, then I'd see this big
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old herd of cows and stuff, you know, and then we'd see I'd see
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these guys on horses. I'm like, hey mom, hey dad,
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where are they? They're like, oh, there's these
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Cowboys, you know, you know, it doesn't matter.
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They kind of, you know, they kind of have me drive away from
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that type of deal, you know, like go to school, do this, do
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that. They do.
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So you trained horses or you work for free, right with the
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trainer, and then now you say you do some day work, sometimes
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not as much. Few and far between.
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Yeah, there's not as much, but you've done it.
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Yeah, right. What is the process of getting
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into that? Right, Because just learning how
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to ride a horse in it on its own is very difficult.
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But now you throw a rope, you throw different terrain, and you
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throw cattle. I think to for my experience, it
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was just the people I kind of knew.
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It was like the fair my farrier for that trainer was, he grew up
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doing this, you know, fucking cowboy rodeo did all that.
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And he was like, it's just the connections you kind of have to
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like, make. Yeah.
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And he, he saw what I could do with a horse.
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So he's like, maybe, maybe he could do something.
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Yeah, and I'm sure he probably asked around too.
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Not about your reputation and like who you are.
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No kind of he? He asked the horse Turner I was
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working for at the time. He's like, hey, is he a good
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hand? You know, does he, does he do
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what he's told? You know, yeah, he's like.
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And after that, I asked him was like, hey, can I come up with
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you this weekend? And he was like, hell yeah.
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Fucking keep on. Yeah, a lot of it's the circle
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you surround yourself with, right is you surround yourself
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with the right people that are going to help you get somewhere.
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And then if your character is what, you know, really continues
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to show through, people are going to vouch for you, right?
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But that's the other part of it is it's not just the sweat
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equity that you put into it. It's doing the right thing
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around the right people that are going to get you connected.
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It's like anything else, you know, whether it's business or
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professor or personal, you know, it's, it really is just the
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people that you surround yourself with.
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So what's next for you? Well, right now it's I'm trying
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to start my own horse right now. That's that's my big deal.
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What's that? I've always had to borrow a
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horse every time. You know, they were, oh, let me
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kind of borrow this horse for this or, or, you know, go on
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chart. I have to ask for this, ask for
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that. You know, it's just that
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reputation is like, oh, he's a good guy.
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He's gonna do it. And I'm like, sooner or later I
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had to buy the bullying and buy a horse.
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But you're not just starting any horse.
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Oh no, it's AI got a little yeah, a little 2 two 2 1/2 year
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old Mustang from. Nevada, it's the one that you're
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breaking in these videos, right? Yeah.
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Oh yeah. When you're in the bright yellow
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shirt and the round pen, Yeah, yeah.
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So it's a 2 year old Mustang from the rez.
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BLM, Nevada. So, well, I noticed the tattoo
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on its neck so I instantly knew it was a Mustang, but yeah.
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But that that's going good right now.
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He's getting, he's getting real almost every day.
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You know, I'll give him a break because he's some young.
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Yeah. And it's getting hot.
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Yeah, well, how's that process though?
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So you so you got the horse straight from where?
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I got him from AI, forgot what it was called.
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It's like some lady that takes like buys them and then just is
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it. Is it the lady in Cave Creek?
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Yeah, OK. Annie Mcdermade, or.
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Something OK, I don't, I don't, I don't know her name, but I've
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seen her name on the Facebook pages on the horse.
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She poses a lot. She's very much an advocate for.
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Yeah, she rescues them, right? And then she rescues, brings
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them down to the valley. Brings them down, yeah.
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And try to give them to get homes.
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Yeah. Yeah, because we've, I've looked
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into a couple of them. Yeah, Yeah, you can.
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Yeah, she's got some good horses.
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I just don't know that we want to break a bunch of Mustangs.
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They're wild. Well, what's the process like
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for you? So coming from just a regular
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Quarter Horse, I was used to getting them good on the ground
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work in like a week or two, being able to saddle, do all
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that, get on the saddle and do everything by like a month.
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Yeah, but well, it teaches you patience.
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With Mustangs, you kind of have to be a little different with
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them. So I don't, I didn't think I I
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started riding him about a month ago and I got him in January.
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OK. I kind of.
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So you put five months worth of groundwork into it.
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Just to get him used to everything, you know, Like turn
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him into an actual horse. I remember the videos that you
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sent me. There's a video of you in the
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stall with food in between your feet.
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Yeah, and you just have to sit there and wait for him to come
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to you, right? Yeah, he had to learn how to be
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with people, you know, So it was like, I get off right after work
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and it was, it was still winter time, so I was like, I'm not
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exhausted. So I was like, I was just here.
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If he comes up, he comes up. If not, OK, maybe tomorrow I
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might get a little closer. He might walk a little closer to
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me. And then by the end of it, like
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you have to show them that you kind of want that bond with it.
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Yeah. So.
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Gotta earn that trust, right? Earn that trust.
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You kind of have to build a friendship with it.
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Yeah. So I did that for a good month
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and a half and then those videos I sent you, they were all those
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saddling ones that took like another couple weeks just trying
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to get him used to me throwing pad on him.
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Yeah, saddle on him. Just everything was like I even
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for it being a 2 year old I was used to.
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Oh, he's ready. Halter broke.
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He knows how to leave. He knows how to do that.
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He knows how to lunch. Yeah, being a 2 year old, I had
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to learn patience. Very fast.
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Oh, I bet, man. So I wanted to get on him like
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monthly. I was like, why can't I just get
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on him? Like, you know, like it's just
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another horse. I can't do this.
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But that's crazy. See, and you talk about wanting
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to break 1. Dude, that's my dream.
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Dude, I know it is let's talk about when you got Oakley.
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You ready for this? So he wants to break his own
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Mustang, right So we get Oakley and we bring him to the bring
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him to the house. That horse is there for like a
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month and he's scared shitless of this horse will not get near
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her so he. Was this after the auction?
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Yeah, Oh yeah. So that horse stayed at my house
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for like a month and I'll never forget.
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He finally puts a saddle on her and he gets out there and he's
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like, no, I'm not getting up. I'm not getting up because she
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was getting kind of wonky. And I finally had had enough.
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Dude, I'm in shorts, I think my basketball shoes.
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And I was like, get out of the way.
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I'm going to get on her. And he's like, no, you're not.
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And I was like, that's why I jumped on her.
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And she kind of went, she went nuts.
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And he's like, are you going to get off?
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And I said fuck no. I said, if I get off right now,
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she's going to know she won. So I let her go ape shit.
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And I got off and I was like, all right, now you get on.
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I was like, I'm not getting on her and then the next day he got
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on and then she's been great. Well, yeah, well, that was after
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I took her to Logan's. No, yeah, you took her to
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Logan's after that. Well, that.
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Well, yeah, that's what I meant, yeah.
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After that, I took her to Logan, right then he just kind of set
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him or set her straight. Yeah.
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And I was like, all right, because I don't want.
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To listen, but you want to break a Mustang.
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Yeah, OK. Oh yeah.
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There's also the thing about Mustangs, you kind of, you have
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to kind of give all your time to it.
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I've spent days, yeah, on days, yeah, like I don't go home.
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I didn't go. I don't go home until like 11:30
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at night and I have to be up for work at like 5.
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So it was like that time, it was like 6 hours.
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I'm just chilling on my phone, you know, just landing.
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Figure me out, my man. Smells, yeah.
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All the noises. Well, that's why I haven't
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gotten 1 yet or like done it because I know I don't have the
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time. Yeah, and I don't have the
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knowledge to do that right now. I need to be a better writer
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before I could train a wild Mustang.
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There's a lot that I need to learn.
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I'm telling you, there's no chance I'm doing it.
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I'm gonna do it. No way I'm gonna do it.
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It takes you kind of have to put your like I said, you have to
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put your blood swing tears. And you have to put everything
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on hold. Oh, for sure.
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Like like you just said, you were spending hours just sitting
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there. You got kids, homie.
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I know I'm like, don't be out there.
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They'll be the first ones out there.
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Yeah, right. Hey, just don't drink on there.
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Strap him in. Oh, he'll.
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Be fine. Yeah, right.
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He can ride damn near anything. Yeah, no, it's cool to hear of
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somebody that has actually done it because I've always wondered
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what it was like. Right.
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Again, I'm not I'm, I'm not breaking horses no more, but it
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would be cool to see it done like from from scratch, you know
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the three-year old that we have out there.
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I think it had just some just some groundwork on it and now
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we're to the point where Trev's riding and loping it around the
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arena. We've had him for a couple
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months, but you know, going from something that had been in a
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stall and would lead and stuff like that too.
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But you were like straight off the Brez, right?
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Never had. Never had any, you know,
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anywhere. That's contact.
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Legit just, I messaged her. He's like, hey, this horse, I'll
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be there in the morning, let's do it.
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And she was like, OK, cool, I'll meet you in the morning.
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And then she she said something about like, yeah, I just
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brought, I just brought them back from Nevada.
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This BLM, like she really likes her cool minded.
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They're easy compared to what I'm used to.
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Yeah. So it was, yeah.
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Even just loading him in the trailer the first day it was it
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took me, it took his like 30 minutes just trying to slide him
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in there. Just.
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Get him used to. Him just trying to just get him
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back to the house, yeah. It was and hope he doesn't set
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back on you when he's in the trailer and.
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Oh, that we don't. So that's also the thing picking
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up a Mustang is no dividers, no halter.
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They're they're just freeloaded in there.
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Oh really? Oh.
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That's that makes sense. You tie them in and a wild
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horse. Yeah, I mean, they got 4 legs to
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stand, so they'll be all right. They figured it out.
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Yeah. For years.
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Yeah. Keep their belts.
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That's wild, I didn't know that. So Cowboy Day work, bronc
22:13
riding. Yeah, right.
22:15
So this weekend you're going up to the Williams Rodeo Night.
22:18
Yeah, I'll be going up Saturday just for the day, hang out with
22:24
family and then just hopefully I make some money, make they pay
22:31
my beer tab for that night. There you go.
22:34
Now you're going to ride for the next basically 8 weeks, right?
22:37
Is it about 8 weeks long? How is that?
22:39
How? How is OK?
22:40
So why? Why are you doing this?
22:43
It was mostly so I got, I kind of got hooked on to it before I
22:49
was riding some a horse at the horse trainers and you know,
22:59
arena horses, they're kind of spooked out anything outside of
23:02
the arena. So they're like, we had some
23:05
lady on the bicycle just in the back of the evening that just
23:07
pop out. He just started.
23:08
He looked and just freaked out and just started bucking like
23:12
some shit. They crow hot, you know, just in
23:15
a circle. But after that, my heart was
23:17
racing, hands shaking. I was like that.
23:21
Was fun. So I just asked everybody.
23:25
He's like, hey, you know anyone that bucks horses down here?
23:28
No. OK, then I got on my first one
23:34
May. No, I got on my first one April
23:39
last year all the way in Needles, CA.
23:41
It was a GCPRA sanctioned rodeo and they have Ranch Bronx.
23:46
I was like, that's the only place I'll do it because I don't
23:49
have a saddle, a Saddle Bronx saddle.
23:51
So I'm like, I'll just use my fucking working saddle.
23:55
After that, I fell in love with it was it was just that
23:59
adrenaline rush. Yeah.
24:01
And to be honest, will I ever quit?
24:07
Well, my bones break, probably, but.
24:09
No Any interest in bucking bulls?
24:11
Are we sticking to just Bronx? Here's my thing about bulls.
24:14
I Everybody else, I knew that buck bulls, they loved it, but
24:23
after they got off with it, they're like, I wish I didn't do
24:26
it. Yeah, You know, like even if
24:31
Schaefer, Ty Schaefer, he was that horseshoe here for the
24:35
horse trainer and he was getting on bucking bulls and all his
24:40
friends were rodeoing bareback Sal bron bulls.
24:44
And he was like, if I did it over again I would stuck to it.
24:48
Just bronze. That was the thing I plus I
24:51
don't outside of a rodeo, do you ever see someone just randomly
24:56
get on bulls and just bucking them versus, you know, a horse
24:59
that bugs? That's my deal.
25:01
It's like you can use the same fundamentals in a bucking horse
25:05
versus Oh my God, relearned you got learn new stuff for a bull.
25:10
Yeah, I was like, I think it's more cowboy.
25:12
To get on a bucking horse. See, I think it'd be cool to see
25:15
Drake get on a mini bronc. Yeah, Yeah, we've, we've
25:18
because. That's what the four O says.
25:19
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be fun to watch.
25:23
I think he could stick to that pretty good.
25:26
Probably. Yeah.
25:27
Well, because they got a handle. And they run more.
25:29
Yeah, yeah. No, I've seen some of those buck
25:32
hard for no reason. I was like, they're tiny.
25:35
They won't do anything. Like I was riding this horse for
25:41
a lady and her kid got into bareback movies and it was like
25:46
every video I see her post is like, you know, it was like
25:51
craw, hop, crawl, run around. I'm like, cool, she covers and
25:54
then I see the one where she's like gets bucked off and I'm
25:59
like, for a horse being that small, I couldn't imagine.
26:04
Well, that was Drake's last ride in mini bowls.
26:07
He had like the ride of the year as far as the mount, right?
26:12
Coming out of the chute. The the bull, the mini bowl
26:15
could not have been a better a better seat and he came out and
26:20
perfect jumps and everything was good and it was a short ride.
26:24
But that was that was rider, rider performance, because that
26:30
bull was giving Jesus take the wheel He did.
26:32
Oh, wasn't that video I saw? Where he takes his hands off.
26:35
Hands were up in the air. I'm like, what in the world?
26:38
Else is the same thing. We're like, what are you doing?
26:41
Well what it was is like he got so he he gets hooked on these
26:46
bull riding videos. Like JB.
26:49
JB Mooney and all that, right and then?
26:50
He went down a whole nother pipeline.
26:52
Of them switched on it, right, because it was probably his last
26:55
name. And starts watching the Mexican
26:58
bull riders where they just put their spurt, they jab their
27:01
skiers and they just let their hands go.
27:04
And so he just let his hands go. Yeah.
27:07
And it's we all looked at each other like out the shoot.
27:10
We are all super pumped. You're like, this is the best
27:13
out of the shoot bull he's had. And then all of a sudden he
27:16
goes, Jesus, take the wheel, throws his hands in the air.
27:19
We're all like, what are you doing?
27:22
Yeah. And then he came right off and
27:24
we were like, dude, that that was the winning ride, yeah.
27:29
So as so when you're when you're getting in that in that saddle
27:34
on a on a bucking bull or bro, I'm sorry, Brock, how like what
27:38
what is going through your mind? What's What is that like?
27:42
Oh, I personally, I just get television, so I couldn't I
27:46
just. You just lock everything out.
27:48
Shut everything out. I'm like zoned in, you know,
27:51
like my buddies helping me set this out lawn, you know,
27:54
reaching for the cinches and everything.
27:57
And then as soon as they tell me it's my turn, I just hop on,
28:01
just kind of sit back, just hold on for dear life and just just
28:05
not. Is there that's got to be,
28:07
that's got to be cool to having somebody that you trust to set
28:10
you up right. Like I think that's a big part
28:12
of it that people don't understand, you know, like you
28:15
don't have to worry about that stuff.
28:17
All you have to worry about is right at that point because you
28:19
have somebody that you trust that's working the horse right.
28:23
He's helping me set up, yeah. Right.
28:25
It knows how you ride. Yeah.
28:27
Is there is there any technique that you do to hold on or?
28:33
Oh, for ranch Brock, it's kind of grab on anything.
28:36
Just hold on, that's it. He's basically just like a
28:39
regular working horse. Like if it bucks you then.
28:44
So do you have a favorite ride that you've had so far?
28:50
I want to say favorite, memorable.
28:52
OK. What's your most memorable ride?
28:55
So I was good for about two or three jumps and then he just
29:01
chili washed me around my neck. And then it's one of the videos
29:06
I sent the chain it was. So we've seen it up here.
29:09
When you're in the white shirt. White shirt or the blue shirt, I
29:12
don't remember, it was that one was rough.
29:16
He almost came on top of you. No, it wasn't that one.
29:19
No, that wasn't even the worst one.
29:21
Oh wow, it. Was I literally like scorpion
29:25
like landed on my neck and everything and at this point my
29:30
parents didn't know I was doing anything.
29:33
This was like my 5th broke out, didn't know anything.
29:36
Called mom from the hospital with a broken neck.
29:39
Turns out nothing was broken, but it was just like I sat up
29:47
and I like through my house like Nope, I'm done.
29:49
I lay back down. My buddy comes up.
29:51
He's like, hey, you OK? He was like, yeah, I'm fine.
29:53
Like my have a little concussion was like, no, we need to take it
29:56
to the EMT right now. It's like you landed bad.
30:00
I was like, no, no, no, I'm good, I'm good.
30:03
They were we went in to the EMT's.
30:06
They checked me out. They're like, hey, he's not
30:10
wanting to go to the hospital, but he's telling my buddy, hey,
30:14
if he starts feeling nauseous, starts throwing up, take him to
30:17
the hospital. It's like that.
30:19
I was like, no, I'm good, I'm good.
30:22
I had beer, you know, talking about.
30:23
Yeah. And at one point I was just
30:27
standing there just talking. And then I just felt my head in
30:29
and I just crouched down for a little 2nd and it was, oh, I
30:35
just started throwing out right there.
30:37
There's your concussion. There, there was.
30:39
And then my buddy was like, Nope, I'm taking you right now.
30:42
Yeah, freaking right before he was like call your parents
30:47
house. Nope, not having, not having.
30:49
They'll figure it out. They're like, no, it's like he's
30:52
like one of those guys I trust with my life.
30:54
Yeah, He's like, all right, just give me your parents phone
30:57
number. He calls him.
31:00
He's like, hey, tree, tree just got fucked up.
31:04
He went pretty bad. We might take him to the
31:06
hospital. Hearing them talk to my buddy,
31:12
cool, calm, collected. And then he was like, you want,
31:15
you want to talk to him? They're like, yeah, hand me the
31:17
phone. He they're over there yelling.
31:20
He's like, what the fuck are you doing it all these things.
31:23
And it was like, damn, just go to the fucking hospital, do this
31:26
deal, get there. They all these CTS, CTS, chest
31:32
X-ray, all that. Yeah, turns out no broken bones,
31:36
no concussion, no nothing. So I was like, oh cool,
31:40
hospitable that I did not want. Yeah, he's like, I just drank
31:45
too much beer. That's why I was throwing up.
31:46
I told you I got lightheaded because I've been over too long.
31:49
Exactly, that was my best part. He was like, I realized who my
31:55
buddies were. They were.
31:57
They're worried. Yeah, they care about you.
31:59
That was mine. Would you say that the rodeo
32:03
community, as far as like bronc riding, is that a pretty tight
32:07
knit community that you guys got going on?
32:09
Or it's a family for sure. It's like you ask questions,
32:11
they'll they'll help out. If you're missing equipment,
32:14
well, yeah, they'll help you out.
32:16
That'll help out. It's my first time.
32:19
It was, I didn't know how to do anything, you know, like didn't
32:24
know how to put a halter, didn't know how to put the bronch brand
32:27
on, didn't know how to do this do.
32:29
So I just asked some of these guys like, hey, can you help me
32:32
out real quick? Do this, do that.
32:34
Yeah, I'll help you out. So let me ask you this, if you
32:38
were able to give the younger tree any piece of advice getting
32:43
started in this, what would that piece be?
32:45
In a bronch writing Yeah, oh, sit back and lift.
32:48
That's my problem. I get shot out the front of most
32:53
of these horses that I get on it seems like say as far back as
32:56
you can, basically back to the kennel, lift up as hard as you
33:00
can and fucking just go with it. Because I was used to the like,
33:05
you know, these shit Dicks, fucking like, oh, they're not
33:09
bad. You know, I'll keep my regular
33:11
riding posture and everything. I'll I'll be able to sit it.
33:14
These things, they are bred to do it and I realized it's
33:20
totally different game. So are you hoping to raise kids
33:23
in this in this lifestyle or you could not really force it on
33:27
them? I shouldn't say force it on
33:29
them. I would encourage them.
33:31
I I definitely want to keep doing this and I want to, you
33:36
know, get like you can. I could imagine like a little
33:39
mini me running around with a little cowboy hat.
33:42
Yeah, yeah. So I'd want to like bring them
33:47
up in this deal, you know, just let's work horses, let's do
33:51
this, let's have a little property.
33:53
Let's do that. Let them run around doing
33:55
whatever instead of inside watching TV.
33:58
I have all my friends, they they're stuck inside all their
34:04
Bluetooth phone. Yeah, hold on.
34:08
That's it. OK, This is this is our podcast.
34:13
I need I need to wipe the sweat off.
34:16
Oh, you mean you're hot? I'm fucking hot, oh man, and I
34:19
need my water. Man, I'm over here in the full
34:22
Pearl snap short and pants and everything.
34:24
Well, you're a cowboy. I'm not.
34:27
Even I'm finding a bad man, I'm not showing.
34:29
It are you the only? Thing is is I was complaining
34:32
about how hot it was in here the last two and he's like, it's not
34:34
that bad. Now I'm the one.
34:37
Maybe it's just that it's just that I real.
34:39
I saw some of your guys videos. It's usually just that corner.
34:42
It could be. It could be.
34:44
That corner is definitely warm. Yeah, we got to figure.
34:47
Something out. It's not real bad in jeans
34:49
though, believe it or not. Really.
34:50
I'm glad I wore I wore jeans instead of shorts today.
34:53
With a leather couch, I would not wear shorts.
34:55
Yeah, I cannot have that. Well, I think it's sticky.
34:59
I can't do it. Well, I think what I think what
35:01
I need to do is keep it colder. Yeah, you know.
35:11
The struggle reel over there, Shane, I'm ready.
35:15
Well, no man, we're we're excited to have you out and kind
35:17
of hear your story and stuff like that.
35:19
But what you know, I guess what do you want people to know about
35:25
Tree and and your journey into this lifestyle?
35:30
He's an Asian cowboy and he's a long time You'll never find
35:33
another one. I've never found him.
35:36
I've never seen one. I love it that's it.
35:39
Makes a different, right? Yes, Sir.
35:41
That's how trying to make the life be a little bit unique, but
35:45
same time just keep on keeping on, yeah.
35:48
So I so you're here because I met you through the Phoenix JC
35:52
Common cheros? Yeah.
35:53
Right. And for the people that I don't
35:56
know, that's just Old Man's riding Club.
36:01
You say all man's or old man's? It's both, but it's getting
36:05
younger. I mean, I went for a hot minute.
36:08
It's definitely the old boys club, yeah.
36:11
Now we're getting younger, but but you're, you're a big part in
36:15
right now into the whole Pony Express, right?
36:18
Yeah, I'm I'm long as what is it called?
36:23
Not trail boss, the other one. Ride Coordinator Ride.
36:26
Coordinator so I'm kind of helping him out with that deal
36:29
so. So what is all that about?
36:31
Pony Express or ride coordinator?
36:33
Both Pony. Well, Pony Express is just one
36:36
of those reenactments that we do every year.
36:39
We try to bring old traditions back for a week and weekend.
36:44
You know, we'll ride from Phoenix all the way.
36:47
Press gave hand mail off to each other for like a mile, mile and
36:50
1/2. Every every rider will have his
36:52
own leg. Yeah.
36:54
And we, that's our most public, you know, everybody comes out to
37:00
see it. So we try and make it a big deal
37:03
for us. So how many riders will you have
37:05
this year? Hopefully more than 30 that way
37:12
it's usually 60 rides for the whole weekend so.
37:15
So it gives everybody 2 rides. Two rides, yeah, but if there's
37:18
more, people will shorten down legs.
37:20
You know some legs are really bad for for 4/4 and 1/2 miles,
37:25
so we'll shorten some stuff down if people want.
37:29
Yeah. And when is that happening this
37:30
year? Because I know it's usually
37:31
pretty hot. This year, the last.
37:34
Weekend of March. OK, so it won't be as hot.
37:37
It won't be hot we. Already had it this year.
37:40
So we'll have it for the kids this year, so we'll have it
37:44
either on one spring break for them or the other ones so more
37:48
of the comptrolls can come out. Gotcha.
37:51
So. That's a good idea.
37:53
That's our deal. And then this year or next year,
37:58
we're having five legs for breast cancer.
38:01
So some of the culture wives would ride in pink shirts, you
38:06
know, make their own kind of money and then they'll they'll
38:10
need to breast Cancer Foundation.
38:12
That's cool. And that's like for that's,
38:15
that's that's brand new brand. New for next year, Yeah, Yeah,
38:18
that's our deal. Yeah.
38:21
And. Then we have a couple rides,
38:23
like a fall ride, spring trail ride.
38:28
We'll have a fall and spring and then we're working on a pack
38:32
trip. Yeah, for like a whole week.
38:35
So we'll go, I forgot where, but it's up north, so it's beautiful
38:40
country. We'll go like South of the rim
38:42
and then go all the way. Like pine top or strawberry.
38:45
I don't remember the details, but it's supposed to be like a
38:48
seven day deal. Like people can hop in, join in
38:51
one day, hop off the other day. You know it doesn't have to be
38:55
a. The whole 7 days, very cool.
38:59
And we all this is to get donations and raise money for
39:06
underprivileged kids and all that, right?
39:09
Yeah, it's supposed to help out under privileged families.
39:15
You know, just give them a little bit to help and forgot
39:22
what organization we help out with horses help.
39:25
They're kind of a little therapeutic horse place.
39:29
So they'll help with special needs kids and give them that
39:34
equine therapy. Sometimes it's veterans.
39:37
So it's like that's our main partner right now just to bring
39:43
out more stuff. So how how long have you been
39:47
part of the club? One year, OK, officially, I've
39:51
been a guest two years before that, just doing Pony Express.
39:58
I got it into it because my boss had a diesel shop, was a common
40:03
show, and he was like, hey, I know you ride horses.
40:06
You want to do Pony Express for the way?
40:08
Yeah. So how how many are in the
40:10
common shows now? 15 match.
40:15
I think not a lot. So we're we're always looking
40:19
for new. Blood.
40:21
So how do you how do you recruit the new blood for that?
40:24
It's right now it's just word of mouth, honestly.
40:26
It's word of mouth. That's all it is.
40:28
Like we'll have friends or like I'm like, I'll talk to my
40:31
buddies and he's like, hey, you want to, you want to join this
40:34
deal? Like, you know, like meetings
40:37
twice a month, you go on trail rides, you camp out when you,
40:40
yeah, 5 days of in October, it's like, it'll be a fun deal.
40:47
It's like and who's. Who's the right fit for that?
40:50
Anybody that wants to ride. Anybody that wants red, yeah,
40:53
men, women. Children.
40:54
Oh, it's men. It's just men.
40:57
That's why it's all anyone. Oh, OK.
40:59
Old man's. Club all man alone, all man, old
41:03
man's and young man's. I'm the youngest in it.
41:06
Oh, I know. So I think the youngest have for
41:09
me is. Jake.
41:13
Jake Blackwell, he's like 2027, I think 2527 mid 20s.
41:18
Yeah, but. Yeah, we're just, we're supposed
41:22
to have a new one that's like 2021.
41:25
I forgot his name. Ted Toss, buddy.
41:30
Oh, we better be 21 to get in the Legion.
41:34
That's true. That's true.
41:37
But yeah, it's a, it's a cool group to be around.
41:41
It's totally it's different. So when you're not, when you're
41:45
not cowboy and when you're not on a horse, what are you doing?
41:51
Just trying to catch up on asleep.
41:53
Really. What do you work at?
41:56
We work, I work at steel construction company, pre
42:00
engineered metal building. So we'll make like barnos big
42:04
type deals where plumbing wise. So we're kind of big in the
42:08
valley. So they'll get bids from
42:13
everywhere we'll work. We're in Mesa right now.
42:16
There's a place in Peoria that has one.
42:18
There's a place in Kirkland, Havasu, Flagstaff, ASU even had
42:23
us. Really.
42:25
Well, now I got a contact. Damn right.
42:27
I'm ready to do it in my house. Yeah.
42:29
And then, I don't know, they did the NAU Stadium, they did that
42:35
big one. Oh wow, so they're doing big
42:37
scale stuff. Sometimes it's not really that
42:39
big, like I heard that one was pretty big, but we're only like
42:42
110, 120 feet up. OK.
42:46
So it's not that big, but it's usually just like Barnos will
42:50
make those. It's Butler buildings,
42:53
everything's pre. It's basically.
42:54
Yeah, construction. Just put all together and.
42:58
Bring in the crane and put our scissor lift.
43:01
Yeah, awesome. That's all.
43:03
We'll that's all we do some one week we'll be putting steel on,
43:07
another week we'll be roofing. So we'll be doing insulation,
43:11
all that crap. This.
43:14
I only started about a week ago, a month ago.
43:17
OK, So this is kind of like my first big thing.
43:20
Yeah, I've dealt with insulation before, but like, you know, from
43:24
diesel trucks bringing the firewall and everything, This is
43:28
hell compared to that. I cannot like roofing week.
43:33
It'd be like 2 weeks. I oh man, every day I come home
43:37
I have to have to take a cold shower.
43:39
Yeah, I hear you, man. I mean, I'm in the same boat,
43:42
working outside all damn day. So have you right now, and I'm
43:50
not trying to call you out or nothing.
43:51
Yeah, you, but you haven't gotten a buckle yet.
43:55
No, that's so. I'm still kind of new to this
44:00
and comparatively I've only been on about 15 head.
44:04
OK. So I've only covered one or two,
44:08
I don't remember like one in Williams and 1:00 somewhere
44:12
else, just some podo. And most of the time it's just
44:16
cash prizes. And to be honest, I'd rather
44:18
have cash can. You buy yourself a buckle.
44:21
Yeah, someone said that one time.
44:24
He's like, oh, I got second place was like you can use that
44:26
money to buy a buckle. I was like, no one wants to see
44:29
a second place buckle. I'm sorry.
44:30
Yeah, like if I win it, I win it for sure.
44:33
That's the right way. I'm wearing 1.
44:35
So man, paying bartender, I'm going with it every night.
44:40
I'm going with it. That's awesome.
44:42
Awesome. Well, we're excited for you in
44:44
eight weeks in a row, right, Getting ready to ride.
44:48
So I think what we can do is maybe we recap.
44:52
Yeah, Get them back out here after you're done with your
44:54
series. See how you did.
44:56
Tell us some stories about the rides that you have through
44:58
there, right? See how much you know.
45:01
See how your rides improved. See what's changed.
45:03
Yeah. So.
45:05
It's the same stock contractor from.
45:07
Last year, so OK, so you should know them.
45:09
I know a good bit of them. Some of them they're kind of
45:13
they're high school rodeo surrogate, OK horses.
45:16
So they're kind of up there. This is kind of I think this is
45:19
their warm up for this. Oh, OK.
45:23
That makes sense. Yeah.
45:24
So they're not even like. They're not even just.
45:28
They're not broken in a little bit.
45:29
They're they're ready. They're they're off their break
45:32
and they're ready. Yeah, yeah.
45:34
So some of them are a little, little less bakery.
45:40
Some of them just kind of hop around.
45:42
Yeah, some of them kind of 1, I think one or two stalled up for
45:46
me. So they're just, some of them
45:48
might be new. So they're just trying to get
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feelers on. Yeah.
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And then some, most of those Cowboys, I know they're right in
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the ranch bronc. I know them by word of mouth.
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You know, like some of them work at the RO.
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That's a big ranch up there, the Babbitts, everything like I've
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researched all the big ranches up there.
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They're they're top so. Awesome.
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Their hands, yeah. We're excited to see it.
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I know you're going to go up what, this weekend?
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Yeah. And then we're going to be
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coming up the second or third weekend in August.
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So we're going to come watch it. We'll come check it out.
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But yeah, man, we got a blast having yon.
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You know, hopefully we can recap.
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Like I said, let's try to get him on after the series is over,
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maybe in September if you're down.
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Have you come out and we'll, you know, recap your your summer
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season up in Williams? Oh, hopefully it'll be better
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than last year. Last year.
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Hey, you know what? We're going to say that it's
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going to be better than last year.
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What you can do is bring all the money that you want.
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There you go. We're going to put it out in the
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atmosphere. You have a better summer than
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you did last summer. Oh yeah.
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Well, we appreciate you Tree. We had a blast having you on and
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we look forward to having you on in September.
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Yes, Sir. Thank you so much.
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Thank you. It's hot.
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It's hot. You friends, everyone's going to
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be friends and plus you better ride like you ride.