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UK Column News Podcast 14th February 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, It's Friday, the fourteenth of February twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: just after one o'clock and welcome to Ukicklin News and
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  Speaker 1: your host Mark Rumson and joining me today in the
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  Speaker 1: studio with Patrick Hennison. Welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick, great to be with you, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: And by video link we have Mark Anderson. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: going to begin today with Ukraine and the Munich Security Conference,
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  Speaker 1: known by some as Davos for Defense, is kicking off
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  Speaker 1: today this afternoon. The featured image on their website is
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  Speaker 1: all about Zelensky. This is obviously an image from last year,
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  Speaker 1: but nonetheless this is because, of course Europe is at
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  Speaker 1: the minute giving the impression of absolute panic over the
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  Speaker 1: Trump Puttin telephone conversation which took place. And one example
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  Speaker 1: of that panic came from Ben Wallace, the former Secretary
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  Speaker 1: of State for War, who wrote an opinion piece in
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  Speaker 1: the Telegraph yesterday. Here it is now. He said this,
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  Speaker 1: He said, Munich's model is peace through dialogue, but it
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  Speaker 1: has proven itself in recent years to also be a
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  Speaker 1: force for a forceful bastion of European resistance against Russia's
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  Speaker 1: illegal invasion of Ukraine. What a shame then that this
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  Speaker 1: year's gathering seems set to mirror the disastrous conference of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight, where the continent stood blind in the
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  Speaker 1: face of Hitler's duplicity. The stench of appeasement is once
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  Speaker 1: again returning to Munich. After Chamberlain returned to Britain, he
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  Speaker 1: said in nineteen thirty eight, having signed an agreement with
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  Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler, he proclaimed peace for our time. Winston Churchill
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  Speaker 1: then rebutted that you were given the choice between war
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  Speaker 1: and dishonor is the quote. You chose dishonor and you
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  Speaker 1: will have war, So he was quoting Churchill there. He
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  Speaker 1: went on to say, the same fate awaits the West,
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  Speaker 1: whether in the Taiwan Strait, Iran or elsewhere in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: If it fails to stand strong now, and like eighty
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  Speaker 1: years thirty seventy eight years ago, it will have its
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  Speaker 1: roots Innich. So that's quite incredible rhetoric. Patrick, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really know what to say.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's quite an incredible off ed by Ben Wallace,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that's a bit rich coming from Ben
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  Speaker 2: Walls Mike, but they can't help but like using this
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  Speaker 2: kind of fetishization of World War two the SU date
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  Speaker 2: and land. It's thirty eight appeasement and so forth. And
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  Speaker 2: I can't think of anything more dishonorable than using seven
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand young Ukrainian boys and men as geopolitical cannon
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  Speaker 2: fodder for the vanity of NATO, a dying organization. I
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  Speaker 2: can't think of anything more dishonorable than that.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, well, look the rhetoric Kim not only following Trump's
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  Speaker 1: phone call with Putin, but also following the new US
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  Speaker 1: Defense Secretary Pete Hexath's comments. He was echoing Trump's long
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  Speaker 1: standing calls for Europe to pay for its own defense.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a view also, as we've mentioned in the past,
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  Speaker 1: expressed by J. D. Vance. So here's what Hexath had
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  Speaker 1: to say.
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  Speaker 3: Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members
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  Speaker 3: of NATO. As part of this, Europe must provide the
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  Speaker 3: overwhelming share of future lethal and non lethal aid to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: Members of this contact group must meet the moment. This
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  Speaker 3: means donating more ammunition and equipment, leveraging comparative advantages, expanding
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  Speaker 3: your defense industrial base, and importantly leveling with your citizens
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  Speaker 3: about the threat facing Europe. Two percent is not enough.
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  Speaker 3: President Trump has called for five percent, and I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Increasing your commitment to your own security is a down
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  Speaker 3: payment for the future, a down payment, as you said,
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  Speaker 3: mister Secretary of Peace through Strength. We're also here today
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  Speaker 3: to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic reality prevent
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  Speaker 3: the United States of America from being primarily focused on
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  Speaker 3: the security of Europe. The United States faces consequential threats
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  Speaker 3: to our homeland.
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  Speaker 4: We also face a peer competitor.
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  Speaker 3: In the Communist Chinese, with the capability and intent to
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  Speaker 3: threaten our homeland. As the United States prioritizes its attention
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  Speaker 3: to these threats, European allies must lead from the front.
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  Speaker 3: Poland is spending five percent of GDP on defense already,
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  Speaker 3: which is a model for the continent.
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  Speaker 4: These are first steps. More must still be done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just said on their model for bankruptcy
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  Speaker 1: and that. But tell me what is going on here,
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  Speaker 1: because we've got all this. Trump has out a phone
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  Speaker 1: call with Putin and therefore there's pace coming to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time he's busy in the same
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  Speaker 1: day basically saying because that was the Munich Defense Conference, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: the Ukraine Defense Conference, a NATO conference saying you got
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  Speaker 1: to stump up with more weapons, You got to stump
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  Speaker 1: up with and spend more on defense in order to
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  Speaker 1: give these weapons to Ukraine. Can they make up their
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  Speaker 1: mind what they're aiming for here?
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  Speaker 2: No, they're all over the place. What's happening is Trump
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  Speaker 2: will move forward with a crazy statement, and then it'll
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  Speaker 2: get rowed back, and then one of his underlings will
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  Speaker 2: move forward with a big, brash statement like their NATO
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  Speaker 2: memberships off the table for Ukraine, and then they'll row
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  Speaker 2: it back. And so you see this again and again
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  Speaker 2: this pattern, so you don't really no one knows really
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  Speaker 2: where they are with this. It's very confusing and it's
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  Speaker 2: going to frustrate the European partners, probably to no end
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  Speaker 2: at some point. But listen to the language. Very transactional.
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  Speaker 2: You need to leverage your comparative advantages. Two percent five
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  Speaker 2: percents better. Two percent is not enough. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: settle it three percent. Obviously, that's how trump is deal works.
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  Speaker 2: But then he says it's a down payment on your future.
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  Speaker 2: This is exactly the language Zelenski was using, that support
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  Speaker 2: for Ukraine is a down payment on democracy for the West.
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  Speaker 2: We fight the Russians. So you don't have to like
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  Speaker 2: it's transactional. It's all transactional language. This is all fantasy basically,
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  Speaker 2: as is the World War II comparisons by Ben Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is Europe is bankrupt. They're broke, and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to run huge budget deficits to have
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  Speaker 2: a five percent spend on defense and defend against what.
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  Speaker 2: You know, once you take the Hawks out of there
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  Speaker 2: from Washington and London, nobody else really wants to go
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  Speaker 2: to the war with Russia. So it's so funny how
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  Speaker 2: this thing rolls into itself and it's a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a self licking. They're trying to create the self licking
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  Speaker 2: ice cream cone in Europe, and I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 2: it's actually going to work because the ice cream will
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  Speaker 2: probably melt by the time we get to the key moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yes and date and the other phrasms in there that
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  Speaker 1: I think should be paid attention to because you might
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  Speaker 1: hear it a little bit later in this report as well.
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  Speaker 1: Is paid through strength.
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  Speaker 2: That's an old trope. Yes, peace through strength. So strength,
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  Speaker 2: what do we mean strength? You know they can spend
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  Speaker 2: all they want. Name me a European country that's ready
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  Speaker 2: to go to war with Russia, that wants to go
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  Speaker 2: to war with Russia, name me one. There's only one
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  Speaker 2: country that might consider it, and that's the United States.
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  Speaker 2: And if they're backing off, Mike, who's really going to
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  Speaker 2: step in there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say there is one country and
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  Speaker 1: that's the United Kingdom that wants to go. But they
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  Speaker 1: want the United States to do the fighting for them.
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  Speaker 2: They need the US behind them. Yes, of course, so
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  Speaker 2: everything naturally is moving towards a negotiated settlement. But you
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  Speaker 2: see people kicking and screaming, and then of course the
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  Speaker 2: defense industry they want to basically get better budgets from
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  Speaker 2: Europe so they can suck more money out of the
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  Speaker 2: European national budgets. Basically, so pete Hegseth as traditionally Mike,
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  Speaker 2: with Mark Esper with the other previous defense secretaries. Where
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  Speaker 2: do they normally come from. They're normally lobbyists from the
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  Speaker 2: defense industry. So that's what that's what the Defense secretary's
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  Speaker 2: job is is to promote weapons sales, pure and simple.
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  Speaker 2: They just have a better, younger, slicker, former Fox News
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  Speaker 2: presenter to do the job. In this case.
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  Speaker 1: Well. A little bit earlier in his speech, he addressed
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  Speaker 1: the issue of Ukraine's membership of NATO and the possibility
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  Speaker 1: of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine. Let's have a listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: A durable peace for Ukraine must include robust security guarantees
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  Speaker 3: to ensure that the war will not begin again.
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  Speaker 4: This must not be Minsk three point zero.
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  Speaker 3: That said, the United States does not believe that NATO
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  Speaker 3: membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement.
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  Speaker 4: Instead, any security.
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  Speaker 3: Guarantee must be backed by capable European and non European troops.
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  Speaker 3: If these troops are deployed as peacekeepers to Ukraine at
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  Speaker 3: any point, they should be deployed as part of a
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  Speaker 3: non NATO mission and they should not be covered under
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  Speaker 3: Article five.
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  Speaker 1: So, on the face of it, that does seem to
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  Speaker 1: be a different position that we're saying there, because all
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  Speaker 1: the rhetoric referred from NATO, from the UK, from the
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  Speaker 1: EU so far in the last four or five years
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  Speaker 1: has been an attack on one, is attack on all.
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  Speaker 1: Article five is almost in every breath. But we seem
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  Speaker 1: to be changing that position. Mine.
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  Speaker 2: So the tripwire he's removing the NATO tripwire, and that
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  Speaker 2: really takes the teeth out of the whole threat of NATO.
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  Speaker 2: And this is how they've leveraged this whole Ukrainian proxy
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  Speaker 2: war from the beginning, was dangling Article five over there
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  Speaker 2: to try to keep the Russians at bay and so forth,
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  Speaker 2: so basically saying no US troops, right, we went out,
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  Speaker 2: but still by our weapons. So this is like a
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  Speaker 2: protection racket, but without the protection. Like so Stig mafia
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  Speaker 2: aren't providing the protection in more, but they still want
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  Speaker 2: you to shop at their stores. So I guess this
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  Speaker 2: is like the mafia going legit kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to use that crude metaphor, but getting
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  Speaker 2: into legitimate businesses like a defense. So what matters, Mike
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  Speaker 2: is Russia's security guarantees. Because Russia holds all the cards
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  Speaker 2: in these negotiations, the United States has no leverage whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: And by putting all their cards on the table, I'm
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  Speaker 2: shocked that they even said the NATO thing, Mike, this early.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, especially with Trump the art of the deal,
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  Speaker 2: you'd think you'd keep that card in the back, right
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  Speaker 2: and wait, use as leverage, because that's the main piece
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  Speaker 2: of leverage. As far as Russia's concerned. So I'm not confident.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear these things, Mike, but I'm also
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  Speaker 2: baffled because I think there's gonna be buyer's remorse from
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  Speaker 2: the US Office of Imperialism because they're really relinquishing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of control in Europe. And what's this going to
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  Speaker 2: mean for all the NATO countries that are occupied by
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  Speaker 2: the United States. Italy's occupied militarily, Germany's occupied militarily, the
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  Speaker 2: whole of Scandinavia is occupied, Poland's occupied, Romania's occupied Greece.
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  Speaker 2: They're expanding their bases in Greece. So while we hear
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  Speaker 2: this rhetoric, Mike on the surface, what's happening under the
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  Speaker 2: surface is a huge military expansion of US occupation and
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  Speaker 2: forces throughout Europe. You know, color me confused, Mike, I'm
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  Speaker 2: completely so. I think there's I don't know if the
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  Speaker 2: right hand it knows what the left hand's doing in
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  Speaker 2: Washington right now, And I think you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of rowback and a lot of retrenching on
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  Speaker 2: some of these positions. Be very interesting to hear what
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  Speaker 2: jd Vance has to say in his much anticipated speech
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  Speaker 2: this weekend at the Munich Security Conference.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime last week we mentioned in the Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: segment last Friday a name, not a new name, an
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  Speaker 1: old name coming back to the floor again, that's port Shenko.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Pete Hegsa says, we don't want another MINS three
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  Speaker 2: point zero. But Pete, as a Fox News Weekend host,
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  Speaker 2: probably hasn't read the minx A chords to know enough
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  Speaker 2: to know that the United States sabotaged the minx accords
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  Speaker 2: with the Ukrainians, with Petro Porschenko, the French, and the Germans.
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  Speaker 2: They all basically deep six stit in order to buy
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  Speaker 2: time to do what Well, Poorschenko, in a crank call
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  Speaker 2: with Wulven Alexis in twenty twenty three, admitted why he
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  Speaker 2: dragged his heels and slow walked the minxed chords. Listen
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  Speaker 2: to this.
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  Speaker 5: And definitely I need this. Mins kik Grima for having
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  Speaker 5: at least four and a half years to build Ukrainian
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  Speaker 5: armed forces, to build Ukraine economy and to train Ukrainian
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  Speaker 5: forces to get over the Asia, to create the best
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  Speaker 5: armed forces in the east in Europe, which was built
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  Speaker 5: on the Native stamp.
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  Speaker 2: To prepare for a war. They knew was coming. So
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  Speaker 2: there's it from the horse's mouth there. So when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about MINX, that's the best deal Ukraine and the
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  Speaker 2: West could have ever gotten. And they could have avoided
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  Speaker 2: all of this, including the hundreds of thousands of dead
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  Speaker 2: young Ukrainian men and boys, And they could have avoided
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  Speaker 2: at all if they just implemented UN Resolution two to
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  Speaker 2: zero two, which everybody signed on to, including Britain and
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  Speaker 2: the United States. But they didn't because Mike they had
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  Speaker 2: another agenda.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, so the question is what does Breton think of
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  Speaker 1: all this? Well, here's John Hey, the current Secretary State
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  Speaker 1: for War, but he seemed a little dina depressed, per boy.
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  Speaker 6: We've seen the polls from President Trump overnight and we
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  Speaker 6: all want to see a durable peace return to conflict
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  Speaker 6: and aggression. And let's not forget Russia remains a threat
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  Speaker 6: well beyond Ukraine. So my message in these discussions will
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  Speaker 6: be that there can be no negotiation about Ukraine without Ukraine,
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  Speaker 6: and Ukraine's voice must be at the heart of any talks.
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  Speaker 6: As I say, the Ukrainians are fighting bravely. It's our jobs,
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  Speaker 6: it's our job as defense ministers here at NATO to
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  Speaker 6: put them in the best position to secure a lasting
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  Speaker 6: piece through strength, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. You heard it again, peace through strength.
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  Speaker 2: There it is again, There it is again. So listen.
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  Speaker 2: They had a chance to have a lasting peace, but
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  Speaker 2: they basically blew it. Boris Johnson submerged it, as did
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  Speaker 2: other people within the British minister portfolio positions there at
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  Speaker 2: the time. I can't think of anything more sick and
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  Speaker 2: twisted than shilling for a war that nobody wants, not
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  Speaker 2: even the Ukrainians. If you look at recent polling MIC
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  Speaker 2: the majority of Ukrainians they don't want any more war.
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  Speaker 2: But it seems like there's an elite cast in Europe
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  Speaker 2: and in Kiev, maybe the recipients or people who are
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  Speaker 2: profiting off this war, that keep trying to promote it
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  Speaker 2: and keep wanting it to extend. And I can't think
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  Speaker 2: of anything more immoral and kind of twisted than that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, we got some more comment on Ben Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Ben Wallace, this is Colonel Daniel Davis
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  Speaker 2: from The Deep Dive, one of the great podcasts in
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  Speaker 2: the United States covering these very topics. He was recently
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  Speaker 2: on Tucker Carlson by The way, so he is known
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  Speaker 2: and listened to within the Beltwagh, but he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: any nice things to say about people like Ben Wallace
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  Speaker 2: roll this clip.
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  Speaker 7: By merely saying that there would be no NATO in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 7: that's all they had to do. There was a number
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  Speaker 7: of other things, but that was what pushed it over
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  Speaker 7: the top. There would have still been some issues that
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  Speaker 7: had to be resolved, but that could have prevented war.
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  Speaker 7: Then they had a chance to get the war off
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  Speaker 7: the table in April of twenty twenty two at the
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  Speaker 7: s ten Bull meetings. Several other times after that too,
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  Speaker 7: every single time there was an opportunity to take an
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  Speaker 7: off ramp. The Russians said from before the war and
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  Speaker 7: at every single stage thereafter, they were interested in a
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  Speaker 7: negotiated settlement, but the West, people like Ben Wallace instead
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  Speaker 7: rejected that and carving out in their brains a world
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  Speaker 7: that they wish existed. We want a world to where
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  Speaker 7: we can just say Russia's evil and did this unprovoked
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  Speaker 7: attack and all this kind of stuff, and we're going
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  Speaker 7: to say that Ukraine will win because they're a democracy.
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  Speaker 7: And it just keep on going. All the things that
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  Speaker 7: were said there and none of those things matter.
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  Speaker 2: That's I mean, he's basically said it right there. The
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  Speaker 2: war doesn't care. And he went on to say war
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care about what you feel and what's morally right.
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  Speaker 2: War cares about which country and which side has the
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  Speaker 2: most men, the most trained men, the best resources, the
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  Speaker 2: best military industrial base, and Russia can outproduce the whole
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  Speaker 2: of European NATO by a factor of three mic when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to artillery and things like that. So you're
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  Speaker 2: absolutely delusional. So all these scripts like Putin bad, Putin's
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  Speaker 2: War of Choice, they violate the territorial sovereignty of a
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  Speaker 2: European country in the heart of European democracy. And all
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  Speaker 2: these talking points don't mean anything, because why do they
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  Speaker 2: push these talking points? They want you they're gaslighting you.
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  Speaker 2: Not to look at the Minster Cords, which Britain in
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  Speaker 2: the US signed onto. Not to look at the Istanbul
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  Speaker 2: Peace Agreement, which would have wrapped everything up by April first,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. But Boris Johnson and others had other plans.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted to keep the war going. They are gaslighting you.
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  Speaker 2: Every time you hear a politicians say Putin's War of
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  Speaker 2: Choice or Russian aggression or the unprovoked invasion. This is gaslighting. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There was a reason why Russia military intervened, and it
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  Speaker 2: was because Dunyask and Luganz were getting shelled by the
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  Speaker 2: NATO armed Ukrainian forces and civilians were dying by the thousands.
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  Speaker 2: And the US would have done exactly the same thing
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  Speaker 2: had it been their people over the Mexican border or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that, or in any other territory or territories
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  Speaker 2: to be future annexed by Trump. Who knows, you know, No,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different conversation, but a great comment by Colonel
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  Speaker 2: Davis there.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely so well. In the meantime, back in the UK,
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  Speaker 1: the Heights of Columns was discussing these issues. Here's Rashi
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  Speaker 1: Sinak's take on it.
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  Speaker 8: Can I ask the Minister if she agrees with me
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  Speaker 8: that in this new world, and in the event of
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  Speaker 8: any peace deal, that the United Kingdom and its European
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  Speaker 8: allies must lead in providing Ukraine with military support and
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  Speaker 8: potentially military presence across land, air and sea to give
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  Speaker 8: Ukraine confidence that any peace will endure. And can I
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  Speaker 8: assure the government that it will have my support if
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  Speaker 8: that's what it decides to do.
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  Speaker 1: That's assuming his support is worth out a thing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the point is, the point is Britain
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  Speaker 1: seems to be desperate to establish a military presence in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is why we have been playing Celensky
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: like a fiddle from the beginning.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Not just a military presence, an intelligence presence, a signals
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: intelligence presence, a GCHQ presence like they have in Cyprus
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: with satellite uplink capabilities and all sorts of let's say,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a combined military and intelligence operations, exactly like Cypress. They're
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: looking for a new Cypress right in Ukraine.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Well, the Ministry of Defense did try to put a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: brief fist and things. They were tweeting this out, this
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: nice picture of Haskeuth and what's his name? He's eminently forgettable.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Are really just think of the former British Prime minister, Dennis.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Minister heally, Yeah, well he wasn't Prime minister, but anyway
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he was. I don't think he's related. But eminently forgettable
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is the point here. So they're shaking hands and pretending
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to be friends. I'm not sure whether they are or not.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: What's the age difference between them as well? I mean
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Hexces is only like forty four, yes or something. So
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: he's just a young buck, isn't he.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Well anyway, coming back then onto the Munich Security Conference itself,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: as I said, Zelenski, the main feature of the front page,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: they're being sessions today are going to be things like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: well they just the EU in the world, US in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the world, China in the world, stabilizing a restless region,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: prospects for peace in them at least, strategic investment, the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: future of the US Ukraine security cooperation, and Selensky is
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: going to be taking part in that particular one alongside Lindsey.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Graham, alongside Lindsay Graham's special breakout workshop there. Yes, is
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Zlensky going to wear a suit for his final public
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: appearance on a main stage as a statesman. That's what
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: some people think his days may be numbered.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I think they probably will be. We'll see in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: second also also covering more on the European responsibility for
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: defense and so on. But the question is who would
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it have been that was the first to try to
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: shore up Zelensky's terrible position. Well it was this man,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: of course, Kirs Starmer. And my question is, Patrick, where
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: does this leave zelenskiy at home, despite the apparent support
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for him still in Munich from some people at least,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But his position in Ukraine has to be pretty rope,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: must be on the ropes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it depends who you talk to. Obviously, if
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you're talking to NAFO reps online, they're going to say
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: that everything's fine. He's very popular. If you talk to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of other Ukrainians they'll tell you that he
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: has never been more unpopular in the country. So if
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: there's an election, he's not running. I mean it's almost
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a fatal company. He will lose, and he would rather
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: not run than to run and lose because it would
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: be a huge humiliation after being built up by the
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: West and Hollywood and everybody else is to this Churchillian
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: global representative of democracy and Western values and all this
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: other stuff. Yes, so it's not going to work, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it was interesting here we'll put up on stage. The
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: New York Times was basically saying that Ukraine's begging to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: be involved in the peace talks, so we tweeted this
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: out earlier. Obviously, that's an old photo of Zelenski from
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the NATO summit last year, when he was snubbed on
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the main stage there. But what I'm saying is that
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: look you give when you realize your sugar daddy just
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: dumped you for an older and more mature, stable partners.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So the US is doing deals with Moscow and Ukraine
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't really have a seat at that table, and why
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: should they because who's paying for all this? Okay, so
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the United States is underwriting everything. So there is no
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: war without the United States. So what does Ukraine really
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: have to offer unless, Mike, unless they want to exert
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: some actual sovereignty, which would be to tell the West
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: or tell the United States thank you, but no, thank you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We've had enough. Are we seeing that happen? No, we're not.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: No h Washington Post talking about this nittle relationship.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Well this is interesting. So and this is the flip
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: flopping we talked about, Mike. So while Hegseth came out
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: and said they're ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: then Trump comes back and says no, no, no, there's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: going to be no NATO membership, and then Hegseth comes
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: back to row it back, and then Trump comes back
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: again to push further on it. So you have this
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: push and pull between Trump and his teammates, his underlings here,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and so this is the way we're going to get
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: used to seeing this in the media going forward. Lots
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: of flip flops back and forth in the press are
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: just running around chasing Trump, trying to figure out what's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: going on. And so this is a really interesting media cycle.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: From a mainstream point of view. We can sit back
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and wait for the flip flops to end and just
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: do analysis on big picture issues. So I like the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: way this is going so far. So long as it
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't trigger World War three, I think we're heading in
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the right direction. Oh so, and so some people are wondering,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: is this just five D chess from the Donald And
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's five D chess. I think this
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: is literally they're figuring out what the hell's going on,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and no one's really sure.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yes that, Just to finish this off, we'll just mention
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that Jadi Van Says Patrick's already mentioned was going to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: be speaking over the weekend at the Munich Security Conference.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: He was meeting Mark Rudder today. They were tweeting this out.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Very happy. We've got to say happy birthday to Mark,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, his birthday today, but for Dvance's part, he's,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, talking the usual thing. We're going to talk
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: about NATO and particularly Trump's desire to see NATO spend
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit more resources on defense, and I know
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that's something that Rudda agrees with. He was saying, we're
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: going to talk, of course about Ukraine Russia conflict, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he said and of course Europe was the other thing
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: they were talking about. So you know this this discussion
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: is clearly going to rumble on for quite some time.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: But Porshchenko again.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Well, the big question, Mike is in one of what
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the Russians are looking for is they're saying, we're not
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: going to sign any deals until there's an election in Ukraine.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: How can you sign a treaty if there's no government
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: because they don't recognize Zlensky is legitimate because he has
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: basically declared himself present and for life basically. So what's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: happened is there's a few people maneuvering for a potential
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: election in the future. So what Zelenski's doing is basically
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: filing criminal cases against them or sanctioning them. So Petro Porshenko,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the former Ukrainian president, he is basically the head of
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the second largest faction in the Ukrainian parliament, the Rata. Okay,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and what Zelensky done, well, let's have a look here.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He's basically sanctioned poor Shenko. So this is absolutely incredible.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And what's happened is basically a riot breaks out in
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the parliament. We'll take a look at this, and this
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: is what's This was the scene in the Rada. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: all hell breaks loose in the parliament because they're basically
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: having a sit in because they don't like what Zelenski's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: done to their guy, Poorshenko. So this is really interesting. Now,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So this is the question. Is poor Shenko a legit
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: candidate to take over in Ukraine if they do have
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: elections or dare I say if there is a coup
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: de'ta And if there's a coup, of course you know
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: who's going to be behind it. It's going to be
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: either the US or Britain. Okay, So let's take a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: look at the prospects. But here's poor Shenko. Listen to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: what he's saying here. This is a very skilled politician
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: on France twenty four, just two weeks ago.
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: Because this is a fight.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: When's the right time to have an.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: Election immediately three months after we win the war.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Win the war.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: You know what does it mean win the war? Very simple? First,
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: there is not existing any other nation in the world
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: who wants peace more than the Ukrainian because we pay
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: such a high price. You demonstrate that today.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But it should be.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: No compromise on the national sovereignity and national identity. We
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: never return back as a call in the Russian Empire. Second,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: no compromise on the territorial integrity of Ukraine. We never
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: recognize Russian occupation. Third, no compromise on the armed forces
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: of Ukraine and their ability to protect our sovereignty, even
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: in exchange for some security force. Non compromise on sanction
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: who cut the ability of Russia to finance the war
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: and to finance Ukraine rebuilding, including with the assets of
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: the Russian prison assets. And five, no compromise about our
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: future membership in European Union and in NATO, because without
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: NATO it would be no sustainable security situation on the continent.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Everything else is possible, everything else that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So you see what he did there, Mike. He says
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: no elections, but he wons elections. Why is he saying
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: no election if he won selections because he's talking to
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the neo Nazis. He's talking to the nationalists, the ones
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that could storm the presidential office and literally drag him
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: in the street and beat him to a pulp like
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: they will is Zelenski if he's not pandering to that group.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So Poorshenko's signaling to the hardliners in Ukraine that I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a hardline guy. No compromise back to nineteen ninety one
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: borders again, impossible, can't happen. But he's saying what needs
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to be said to the hawks in Washington, to the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: hawks in London, to the hawks in Europe, and the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: hawks inside Ukraine. So Porshenko, when I saw that, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: know he's absolutely positioning himself to be the guy for who. Well,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: let's take a look a little democracy preview here. Let's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: take a look at this democracy in Ukraine. So at
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the moment, we have the dictator, that's where we're at
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: right now, the al Pacino type figure there slightly buffed
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: in the T shirt, and then we have potential challengers.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at those challengers. Petro Porshenko, he
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is former president Valerie's ILLUSIONI, former head of the Ukrainian
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Armed Forces and then Alexi Arrestovich. Now what's interesting about
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: these is Porshenko, Well, we know who's backing him. It's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the United States because he served while Trump was president,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: so Trump likes familiarity, so Porshenko thinks he's in for
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a shot. Valerie's ILLUSIONI absolutely Britain's guy. He's been summoned
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to be the Ukrainian ambassador to Britain and so he's
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: in London right now. He's polishing up his English. He's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: got a savo row suit on. He's not the thug
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: bruiser that was the head of the Ukrainian Armed Forces anymore.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: He is a polished politician. That's what Britain is training
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: him for to be their guy. And this is interesting character.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: That's the dark horse, Alexi Arrestovich. He's in the United
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: States because Zelenski wanted to throw him in jail, so
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: he had to flee the country. Second most popular political
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: figure in the country, and he's very smooth, he's very mean, savvy,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: but he's a little bit too friendly with Moscow. So
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he wants peace and he doesn't want to have any
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: confrontations with Russia. So that's going to put a question
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: mark on him. And then of course you have the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Russian choices here Victor Medvichuk and Viktor Yanikovich, former Ukrainian president.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So the likelihood of them being front runners and any
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: of this, it's a bit of an outside chance at
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the moment. So those top three, to me, those are
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the three front runners, and out of those it's really
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: between Porshenko and Soolutioni. So how that comes to power
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: through a coup or through eventual elections is anyone's guest, Mike.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: But the dictator hasn't got a chance.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: The dictator absolutely, he's finished, he's out of there, Mike.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So there is no chance at all for Zelensky. His
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: days are absolutely numbered.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the question is will they get out of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the country alive.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: This is a good question, and that's where you want
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to place your bets, because that's the wager.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well, mark'd last let me welcome you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to the program, and well you want to have a look,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: first of all at Trump's littest efforts with respect to trade,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and suppose that is not unrelated in a certain sense.
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: There is a connection. A good day everybody, especially with
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: regards to Trump's apparent efforts to trim back significantly the
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: trade deficits, huge trade deficits that the US has traditionally run.
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: And I'll mention at the outset here that the huge
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: trade deficit with China over decades, where China always was
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: in the advantage was called by some analysts as backdoor
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: foreign aid.
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: And those huge trade surpluses.
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: That China ran at the American's expense helped China build
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: this military that's documented. Anyway, Keeping that in mind, this
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: is perhaps the most recent let's get this on the screened,
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: the most recent executive order out of the White House.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: I managed to get on their mailing list, so I'm
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: getting everything from the White House now, even little detailed
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: press releases that are not that consequential anyway. This one
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: dated yesterday fact sheet Presidential President Donald Trump announces the
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: Fair and Reciprocal Plan on Trade. And there are some
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: interesting facts in this that are long overdue. Here's what
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: it's about today. That's yesterday, Trump signed a presidential memorandum
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: ordering the development of a comprehensive plan for restoring fairness
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: in US trade relationships encountering non reciprocal trading arrangements. And
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: this does address a lot of financial injustices that have
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: been going on for a very long time. The red
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: parts that I put in red are the most important.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: This fair reciprocal plan will seek to correct long standing
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: and balances international trade and ensure fairness across the board.
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: Gone are the days of America being taken advantage of.
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: This will put the American worker first, improved the US
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: competitiveness in every area of industry, and reducing that trade
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: deficit I talked about in Bolstering Security.
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: Let's move on from there.
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: Now again, I'll focus mainly on the red ones, red parts.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: America will no longer tolerate these unfair practices, and it
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: gives some interesting numbers. The US tariff on ethanol, what
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: we charge is a mere two point five percent, Yet
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: Brazil charges the US ethanol exports a tariff of eighteen percent,
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: and that's pretty much typical in US trade relationships. The
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: next part that's emphasized as a result, in twenty twenty four,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: the US imported over two hundred million in ethanol from Brazil,
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: while the US exported only fifty two million in ethanol
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: to Brazil. The US average applied most favored nation tariff
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: on agricultural goods is five percent, but India's average of
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: the same thing is thirty nine percent. Again, that's fairly typical.
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: India also charges a one hundred percent tariff on US motorcycles,
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: while the US only charges a two point four percent
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: tariff on Indian motorcycles. And again Trump is accused of
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: utilizing tariffs as a weapon, of being brutal about it,
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: economic warfare, things like this, and these are the numbers
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: that people rarely ever see. Let's move on and look
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: at this next slide and focus on the numbers. Though
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: America has no such tax, and America only America should
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: be allowed to tax American firms, which is a fair statement.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: Trading partners hand American companies a bill for something called
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: the digital service tax. Canada and France use these digital
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: service taxes to each collect over five hundred million per
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: year from American companies, and overall, those non reciprocal taxes
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: cost American firms over two billion per year. Again, Trump
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: sees it as America being taken advantage and other countries
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: charging tariffs far in excess of what America has even contemplated,
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: let alone charged. And we'll look at this last one.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: We're focusing a little more on your part of the world.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: The European Union can export all the shellfish it wants
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: to America, but the EU bans shellfish exports from forty
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: eight US states. As a result, in twenty twenty three,
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: the US imported two hundred and seventy four million in
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: shellfish from the EU, but only exported thirty eight million.
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: The EU also imposes a ten percent tariff on imported cars,
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: yet the US only imposes a two point five percent tariff.
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: The US has run a trade deficit of goods every
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: year since nineteen seventy five, as I said, for decades.
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: In twenty twenty four, our trade deficiting goods exceeded one
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: trillion at those numbers, and I think that's sufficient for numbers.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: And what's important here is that there's two different things
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: you can talk about. There's free trade and there's fair trade.
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: Fair trade has long been missing, and it does appear
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: according to those numbers at least. And of course, with
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: any Trump executive order, we have to make sure that
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: he actually carries out what he says he's going to do.
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: We've seen in recent reports that there's wiggle rooms sometimes
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: and sometimes he doesn't quite seem to be carrying out
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: what the Executive Order says. Nevertheless, those numbers are truthful
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: irrespective of who's in the White House and what I
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: was saying about free and fair trade. Fair trade has
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: long been neglected where you do have relative balances and
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: fairness where one country is not paying huge deficits while
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: another uses realizes huge surpluses, things like that, So you
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: balance that out and you have fair trade. And of
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: course it's best for a country to only import what
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: it lacks itself, what it cannot produce in sufficient quantities itself.
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: That's more of a move toward autarchy, more of a
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: move toward national self sufficiency. So fair trade and relative
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: national self sufficiency are what you want ultimately, But free
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: trade is more of a free for all where these
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: imbalances are tolerated under that word free, which can be
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: a deceiving word if it's misused or used in a
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: dishonest way. And that involves a lot of dumping, a
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: lot of huge imbalances, a lot of economic injustices that hurt,
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: for instance, American workers, or in many cases they'll hurt
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: the fishing industry in Britain and the British working class.
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: So at least the White House in this most recent
• 38:40
  Speaker 10: executive order seems to beginning its numbers right and addressing
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: a very real injustice. It's just a matter of will
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: it actually carry it out the way it says it will,
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: and we'll see, but it's an important turning point trade
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: wise at this point.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So back to you guys, Thank you Mark, thanks for
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: much for that. We want to talk about a little
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: bit more about that an extra but in the meantime,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: if you like what the UK Colan does, you'd like
• 39:04
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  Speaker 1: want to mention the Terminally Ill Adults Bill. This of
• 40:14
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• 40:18
  Speaker 1: coming at that committee stage, so it's been coming under scrutiny.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: On Wednesday I think it was in Room ten now
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: as a reminder, the bill was brought forward by Labor's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Kim Ledbetter and it's going to enable termally ill adults
• 40:33
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• 40:36
  Speaker 1: six months to live, to legally end their lives. Now,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: as it's currently drafted, that decision to edde your life
• 40:43
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• 40:46
  Speaker 1: a High Court judge. Now, a few days ago, Meg Hillier,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: who's chair of the Public Accounts Committee, claimed that evidence
• 40:52
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• 41:02
  Speaker 1: that there are no witnesses a quote, there are no
• 41:04
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• 41:08
  Speaker 1: been introduced already and where they had concerns to raise,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: because actually, if you're trying to make good law, you
• 41:15
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• 41:17
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• 41:21
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• 41:25
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• 41:28
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, this was being discussed in committee and Danny Krueger,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Tory MP, asked Kim Ledbatter, who, as we said, sponsored
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: this bill, whether doctors would have to sign offices to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: deaths requested in order to save their family money. So
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: let's have a listen to one of the exchanges between them.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Danny Cooger. But if they got concluded that they were
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: doing it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: Because they were reverted, they will.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Still being able to get asses to death under her bill.
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: So the only question is whether.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: They have capacity in just to have capacity choosing to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: have the assistant death in order to say that family
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: money would be acceptable on.
• 42:05
  Speaker 12: That he build, but not, I think, but I think
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: we're oversimplifying a complex situation and a difficult conversation. And
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: I think, you know, we've talked about comersion a lot,
• 42:16
  Speaker 12: We've talked about pressure a lot. I think those are
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: conversations whereby if someone says I just want it to
• 42:22
  Speaker 12: be up because I feel like a burden, that's the
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: sort of conversation that I think doctor sat Knowledge would
• 42:25
  Speaker 12: be a red flag. And I think that those are complex,
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: difficult conversations. That's why we need the expertise that we
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: would get by providing serious amounts of training around this issue,
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: so that those conversations can be taking place in a
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: really sensitive way.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: So training is going to solve the problem, Patrick, who's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: going to design this training? What's the training going to say?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Sensitivity training? Yes, probably what she's talking about.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Okay, Well let's move on then to Trump
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: again and Gaza. We talked about this on Wednesday, but
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: bring us up to det.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Well, the big deadline's coming up, Mike kids apparently, Well, here,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: let's listen to Trump again, and I'm going to unpack
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: this statement and show you the gravity of it. But
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: go ahead and roll this clip.
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: As far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: aren't returned by Saturday at twelve o'clock, I think it's
• 43:21
  Speaker 13: an appropriate time. I would say, cancel it, and all
• 43:25
  Speaker 13: bets are.
• 43:26
  Speaker 14: Off, and all of them not in drips and drafts,
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: not two and one and three and four and two
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: Saturday at twelve o'clock, and after that, I would say,
• 43:40
  Speaker 14: all hell is.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Going to break out. I could say, all the hell
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: is going to break loose?
• 43:44
  Speaker 11: Are you speaking about time?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: So? I mean, Mike, So what he's done there? I
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: don't think people realize what Donald has done. You know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: he got a lot of credit for the cease fire
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: as he came into office, but he's basically undone it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: This is basically what Trump's done. Is this a train
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: wreck for the Middle East? With Trump? Well, he's destroyed
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: his own ceasefire deal after just two weeks. That's first. Secondly,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: no mention of Palestinian hostages, all five thousand of them. Okay,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: that's not part of Trump's calculus, just Israeli hostages. And
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: also no mention of Israel's own violations of the deal.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Israel is supposed to allow children and so forth to
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: go for medical care in Egypt or Jordan. They've been
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: basically throttling that, along with other actual violations of the ceasefire,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: no mention of that whatsoever, and then places the region
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: back on a war footing. So I don't see where
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the win is here, Like, where's the success in this?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens on Saturday. Is Trump just bluffing
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: or is he just given Israel a license to start
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: carpet bombing Gaza again, that's the big question. And we
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: won't know until Monday. But even on Monday, I.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Might know what one minute past twelve tomorrow, I suppose.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Or we might know on Saturday, or this game will
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: be played at nauseum forever, you know, for the next
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: weeks or months. So he's really given neta license to
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: not implement phase two of the ceasefire deal. It almost
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: looks like they coordinated this when Netanyahu was visiting in Washington.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that a big leap of conspiratorial thinking.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, but disappointing because there's no actual
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: beef in any of this, just hype talk and rhetoric.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: So far. We're waiting for results from Donald Trump, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: we would love to see them, but as yet we
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: are basically in the hot air hype zone still.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And mark moreholt air and hype with more executive voters.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, when when is the executive vorter flurry going
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to end?
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: Well, indeed, there are a lot of them, and I
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: wasn't necessarily to run this today, but like the mainstream
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: press complains, there's so many things coming out of the
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: White House in sheer quantity that you've got to kind
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: of scrape it all together and try and chronicle it
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: and deal with it and objectively report on it as
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: much as you can. And so I'll concur with the
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: press in that regard. There's a lot to deal with here,
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: a lot to unpack, as Patrick is saying, these recent
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: executive orders, the ones that stand out that have certainly
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: a lot of potential to do good again if they're
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: obeyed and implemented as stated include as shown here one
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: of them, for excuse me, protecting children from chemical and
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: surgical mutilation. Another keeping men out of women's sports, all
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: that social engineering that we found so distasteful. Another for
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: creating a US Sovereign Wealth Fund. And one thing I
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: would look for there would be would it be something
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: like Norway or Alaska or Alberta, Canada, where oil reserves
• 47:01
  Speaker 10: and oil assets are used as a basis even for
• 47:04
  Speaker 10: paying out a dividend like they do to Canadian citizens.
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: And I believe also in Alaska, because of the oil wealth,
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: the citizens actually are considered part of the commonwealth and
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: they receive a dividend check almost like another Social Security
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: check in the mail. And would that ever be part
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: of the US Sovereign Wealth Fund? A couple others that
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: were listed there, enforcing the High Amendment to end federal
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: abortion funding. Will they actually pull the trigger on that?
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: That's named after Henry Hyde, a late Illinois senator and
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: executive orders progress on both the northern and southern border.
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: People forget that the northern border in the US does
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: have some significant breaches with contraband and illicit things like that. Now,
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: another one that's quite recent, and let's show this one
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: on the screen to get the title of it actually
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: withdrawing the United States from ending funding to certain UN
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: organizations and reviewing US support to all international organizations. Now
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: that's a pretty broad brushstroke. Will they follow through on
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: this and what might be the consequences. James Ruguski, who
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: has done a lot of very informative reports on the
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: Pandemic Treaty and the international health regulations, he sent me
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: this in the wake of that EO being put up
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: on the White House website. That one goes back to
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: February fourth, President Trump signed an EO directing the Secretary
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: of State and the UN Ambassador to review the actual
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: US relationship with the UN. They were given one hundred
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: and eighty days to complete their report. A little bit
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: more here, within one hundred and eighty days of the
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: day to disorder, the Secretary, and consultation with the UN Ambassador,
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: shall conduct a review of all international inter governmental organizations
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: of which the US is a member and provide any
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: type of funding or other and all conventions and treaties
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: to which the US is a party. With that all
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: conventions and treaties to which the US is a party,
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: to determine which organization's conventions and treaties are contrary to
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: the US interests, and whether such organizations, conventions, and treaties
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: can be reformed. So the word reformed, of course, leaves
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: a little room for not cutting the lines altogether, for
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: maybe staying in some of those agreements. But it just
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: shows you how sweeping these executive orders are getting, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: beyond the sheer quantity of them, the actual content of them.
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: So this is a major change if all of this
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: is followed, of the US government structure and its relation
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: to other countries through treaties and other conventions. Now this
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: is also interesting. This next one, a fact sheet President
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: Trump established establishes one voice for America's foreign relations. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: won't read all of this, but part of it says
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: unified voice for all US foreign relations. This executive order
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: asserts the Secretary of State's authority over Foreign Service officers,
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: civil Service officers, other staff. It directs Marco Rubio in
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: this case, to reform the Foreign services recruiting, evaluation, retention standards,
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: some things like that to make sure only the most
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: qualified individuals in the State Department and so on represent
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: American interests abroad. And empowers the Secretary of State to
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: revise or replace the Foreign Affairs Manual, and it aligns
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: diplomacy with US interests, and of course all of it
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: has to be unified as one diplomatic voice in accordance,
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: in accordance with President Trump's vision for the country and
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: its relation to other nations. One good thing I see
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: that might come out of that is that one voice
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: approach where everyone has to be unified according to one vision.
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: Although it sounds autocratic and I realized it could go
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: off the rails a little bit. On the other hand,
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: it might keep the Council on Foreign Relations types, the
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: unabashed globalists who have been used to getting their way.
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: They've been used to getting State Department positions, Defense Department
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: positions and helping to implement the CFR one World agenda.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: It might keep.
• 51:24
  Speaker 10: Those types out of key government positions at least a
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: little bit more due to that new philosophy that's being
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: put forth there. And from there we've got a little
• 51:36
  Speaker 10: bit more. That's an interesting thing to keep in mind
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: about the CFR and that vision maybe being kept at BAY.
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: We have a little bit more to show here. This
• 51:46
  Speaker 11: one I.
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: Won't go into much at all. There's a memo to
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: the press Corps. The Trump administration is taking exception with
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: the mainstream press. Trump is not calling the fake news now,
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: you know, so often like he did in his first term,
• 52:04
  Speaker 10: where the words fake news were coming out of his
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: mouth every other minute. But he is taking on the
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: press in a little more substantive way. Here he's saying
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: The New York Times erroneously wrote that there's no proof
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: or sweeping claims of fraud in federal government spending. And
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: the memo to the Press Corps, this memorandum, it says
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: that the Times and other like minded outlets should check
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: out a new fangled research too called Google. They're being
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: a little bit sarcastic there. And then the Trump administration
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: is reasserting that the Government Accountability Office released a report
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: last year saying that no area of the federal government
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: is immune to fraud, and that the fraud loses the
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: government or costs the government in between a quarter of
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: a billion excuse me, quarter billion or half a trillion
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: a year are loss to fraud, well, two hundred and
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: thirty three billion into over five hundred billion, let me
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: get those numbers right, are supposedly lost to fraud.
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: Now, this last thing is a quote from Elon Musk, and.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: Giving a presentation that the New York Times and other
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: media were covering, and they took some exception with Musk
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: saying he was not providing hard evidence for a lot
• 53:20
  Speaker 10: of his claims. Musk was quoted in return as saying,
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: the bureaucracy is an unelected, fourth, unconstitutional branch of government
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: which has in a lot of ways currently more power
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: than any elected representative.
• 53:34
  Speaker 11: It does not match the will of the people.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: Now there's some truth to that about the civil service
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: in the US, in Canada, in the UK it does
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: have an inordinate amount of power and a lot of
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: money is spent to support it. But the real unelected
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: fourth branch of government is the federal Reserve in the US,
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: and the banking industry overall, and the debt based money
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: system and the financial system the way we have it
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: is really what drives the financial inequities in the country
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: and the financial injustices. It's not just the amount of
• 54:07
  Speaker 10: government spending. It's more fundamentally, it's the nature of the
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: monetary system itself.
• 54:12
  Speaker 11: And that's the real problem. The real fourth branch.
• 54:16
  Speaker 10: Of government that's been wreaking havoc on the US financially
• 54:20
  Speaker 10: not so much the civil service. So Elon Musk is
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: a little bit off base with regards to that statement,
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: but it's just more about this just illustrates more of
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: what the Trump administration is doing in sheer quantity and
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: the nature of what it's doing. It's a very major
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: overhaul of government and it's hard to keep track of
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: it all. But I'm trying to stay on top of
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: it so we can see the magnitude of what's going on,
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: whether we agree with it or not, to understand it better.
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: So back to you guys.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Thanks Mark an extra, we have a couple of video
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: clips from Trump speaking at the World Governments Conference in Dubai.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I believe that is so stick around. Sorry yes did
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I say Trump? Yes? Sorry, Elon speaking So. But Elon
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Musk and the Return of Technocracy.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Well, we can also talk about this an extra, but
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: this is just a piece. We have a twenty first
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: century wire. Bring this up on screen. But Elon Musk
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: in the Return of technocracy, and it's the PayPal mafia.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: So when you look at the beginnings of PayPal, Musk,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Peter Theo Reed Hoffman, David Sachs and all these sort
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: of people and then Chris mcgreil from South Africa wrote this,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: what does Elon Musk believe and elite schools in Johannesburg
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: and places like this? And what are his actual political beliefs?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Is he a liberal LARPing as a conservative or was
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: he really a far right who is LARPing as a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: liberal in order to capitalize on the climate change hysteria
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: in order to get Tesla massive amounts of government subsidies
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: and to make him the billionaire that he is today.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, these are questions. And then he is the
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: grandson of the founder of the technocracy movement, and his
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: grandparents were very active in the Canadian Nazi Party before
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: World War Two, as was in vogue for many people
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: in North America at the time. So what are his
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: actual beliefs? And this is an important question because this
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: is somebody who bought his way into the White House
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: with a quarter of a billion dollars that he bundled
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: together for the Trump administration. So if you oppose Israel
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: bundling a quarter of a billion to buy a seat
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: at the inauguration and a co working space inside the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: White House, what about Elon Musk and big tech buying
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: their way into the White House. I think anybody from
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: any government and any so called democracy might be concerned
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And date mark. Let's very briefly talk about the border.
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: Oh, yes, February eighth. I was able to get down
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: to a really good access to the Rio Grand River.
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: I had gotten a tip that there was a lot
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: of activity going on. But I go down there semi
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: offen anyway, because it's a great place to talk to
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: border patrol agents.
• 57:12
  Speaker 11: You got full access to the river.
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: There, there's a boat inlet, and you're not in any
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: immediate danger. You don't want to go out in the
• 57:20
  Speaker 10: boonies when you go to the border, especially by the river.
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: You just don't want to do that. It's not a
• 57:24
  Speaker 10: good idea. But anyway, there's a picture here. I took
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: some pictures. This is the US Coast Guard getting ready
• 57:30
  Speaker 10: to put a riverboat in. The guys I talked to,
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: particularly one border patrol agent are saying they're morale is
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: much higher under the new presidency of Donald Trump. They
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: feel like their hands are untied and they can really
• 57:43
  Speaker 10: do their job. And another Customs and Border Protection official
• 57:49
  Speaker 10: and mister Garcia I spoke with a few days before
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: that at the Nuevo Progresso bort of entry, a completely
• 57:57
  Speaker 10: unrelated conversation. I didn't tell one agent what the other
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: agent said. In these cases, I'm trying to get honest answers.
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: He also said independently that the morale is much higher
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: and they're able to do their job much better. I
• 58:12
  Speaker 10: do have a picture here of some youth, some young
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  Speaker 10: people that were at the February eighth inlet near Mission Texas.
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: This is as it says here. People can read the
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: size if they want more details. But there were fourteen
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: explorers there. It's from the Scouting program exploring, which means
• 58:29
  Speaker 10: learning for life. They were there at the river's edge
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: to learn what the Border Patrol and CPB, State Police,
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: National Guard, US Coast Guard, etc.
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  Speaker 5: Do.
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  Speaker 10: So there's a lot of youth training for operating on
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  Speaker 10: the border.
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  Speaker 11: It was all pretty upbeat.
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  Speaker 10: And this is a picture of two Border Patrol agents,
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: no three of them actually, and two of the Scouting
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  Speaker 10: cadets having lunch at a retirement community there called Chimney
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  Speaker 10: Park in Mission Texas, just adjacent to where the Border
• 59:02
  Speaker 10: officials and Border officers are stationed. And there was mentioned
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  Speaker 10: in the press, and that's a press release. I think
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: you showed briefly there of a major cocaine bust very
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: close by to mission at the Hidago and Anzeldouis International Bridges.
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  Speaker 10: Some other ones that I occasionally keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 10: One point three million in cocaine was recently seized. So
• 59:24
  Speaker 10: the border patrol and the related agencies there that are
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: under the DHS seem to be pretty pretty aggressively pursuing
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  Speaker 10: their job and feeling pretty good about about their prospects.
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: Our regular army troops are going more to Eagle Pass
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: and El Paso to the west, probably to Arizona two,
• 59:44
  Speaker 10: not so much here in South Texas yet, as they
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: did in Trump's first term, there were a lot of
• 59:50
  Speaker 10: army regulars down here. You'd see them driving around in trucks.
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: But basically, I'm just getting reports of increased morale and
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: a more effective border protection system. The one thing I'll
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: add is that I was told February eighth that with
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 10: all this, and with the gravy train of the cartels
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: being curtailed being suppressed, they are expecting the cartels maybe
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: to become more devious and more creative, and maybe more
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: aggressive and violent. So they're locked and loaded for that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: And they even see drones that are sent from the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: cartel side that buzz over the border patrol agents, especially
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: when they're in the river, and they'll hear the drones,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 10: but they won't always see them. So they're being surveilled
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 10: a lot by cartel assets because of the increased security
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 10: at the border and more fence sections going up. The
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: fence sections that I've talked about in past reports. I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: do see where they've been moved around a little bit,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: where they're stored and feels around here, so we'll see
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: if those are re erected or put up. But a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: lot of activity, and I'll be visiting other parts of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: the border soon to get more on this.
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  Speaker 1: So that's pretty mu brilliant. Thank you, Mark, thank you,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and well Patrick, let's just leave with the confirmations of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: RFK and Tulsa Gobard, but let's talk about Tulsa in particular.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Well, Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabard, former congressman from Hawaii,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: ran for president in the last election as well as
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: a Democrat. Here is a clip from her swearing in
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: ceremony with President Donald J. Trump. Let's go look at this.
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  Speaker 15: There's only one thing I can say that there's nobody
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 15: like her for this job. This was a very easy
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 15: one for me. She was recommended by some of the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 15: top people in that world. It's a little world, you know,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 15: it's a little smart world. It sometimes can be an
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 15: evil world when the wrong people are there, but we
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 15: have the right one. She's said so many great recommendations.
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  Speaker 2: I would say.
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  Speaker 1: He's recommended her.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the question who recommended Tulci Gabbard? And
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I've always been a little bit, let's say, cautious about
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: getting on the kind of cheerleading section for any of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: these cabinet positions because I kind of know how Washington
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: actually works, and sometimes it doesn't work the way that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: we think it works. So think of the timing of this.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: She has sworn in, Okay, just before she comes in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: and is nominated for this post, Syria has toppled. The
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Assad government is gone, so that would have been the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: main stumbling block for her. If Asad was still in
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: power in Syria, that would be a huge liability for her.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: It would probably crucify her during Senate hearings. I mean,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: or she would it would disqualify her. So that's interesting.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: But then this story is released at the same time
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: as Taulsey being confirmed. Let's take a look at this
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Israel likely to strike Iran in the coming months Warren's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: US intelligence Israel's likely to attempt a strike on Iran's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: nuclear program. Again, we haven't seen any evidence of a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: nuclear program. They have a civil nucletive reactors, but not weapons.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Preemptive strike on Iran's nuclear program in the coming months
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: that would set Turan's program back weeks or perhaps months,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: but escalate tensions across the Middle East and renew the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: prospect of a wider regional conflagration. According to US intelligence,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: and this comes out of the Joint Chiefs Department, so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: ostensibly from the Pentagon in the intelligence community. So if
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: she's dn I, Mike, then you know we have to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: ask the question, what's her role going to be in
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: assessing the validity of this And where do you think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: this intelligence came from? Where is the source of this intelligence?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Was it by chance handed to the United States by Israel?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: And if that's the case, who recommended Tulsi? Was it
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Israeli interests or hardcore Israeli loyalists that put her in
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: that position? Because I find this to be more than
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: a coincidence, Mike, timing of this and if we questioned
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Tulsi's pivot on October seventh, she went from being a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: kind of anti war centrist to being very openly Zionist,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: very pro Israel, anti Iran. That all happened very quickly
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: on October seventh and twenty twenty three. And so it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: brings us back to this. And this is the person
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: who arguably helped Trump get elected, Miriam Addelson, the widow
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: of Sheldon Adelson, with Rabbi Schmouley, and there's Tulsi Gobard.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: So they have been supporting and following her career very closely.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: That's a twenty sixteen photo. So they've been in her
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: camp grooming her for a while. So this is the question, Mike,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: how much influence does the Israeli machine have over Tulsi
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Gobbart because she's in a very very important position. She
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: is in the curation position of intelligence. She is the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: final funnel to the White House from all the different
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: agent sees like the CIA, the NSA, and so forth. Yeah,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: it's very important because so she can compel the President
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: and convince him whether the A threat is credible or not.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: And whether they need to act either unilaterally or in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: support of their quote greatest ally Israel against a nuclear threat, Mike,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: when we look at all the different I've got, all
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: the different intelligence estimates from the CIA, no nuclear program
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, twenty ten, no nuclear program,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. So there's no record
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: of any Iranian nuclear weapons program according to the US
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: intelligence assessment. But here we have this report coming out
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: the day Tulsi Gap part is sworn in. I find
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: this to be highly suspect and it really makes me
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: very concerned.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, we will keep our eyes on that. We'll
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: talk more about that in extra as well. So well,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: we are over time, so we're going to leave it
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: there for today. Thank you very much to Patrick, Thank
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: you very much to Mark. Thank you all for watching.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: We will be back in a couple of minutes of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: UK called member for some extra. Otherwise, have a great
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: weekend and we'll see you on Monday as usual, see
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: you then, Bye bye.