Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Advancing Digital Access and AI Innovation with Joel Vengco of Hartford HealthCare
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- 0:00This is Scott Becker with the Beckers Health
- 0:03Care Podcast.
- 0:04I'm I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:07a brilliant leader from Hartford Health Care. We're
- 0:10joined today by Joel Venco,
- 0:12and and Joel Venco
- 0:14serves as a chief information and digital officer.
- 0:18We are so excited to visit with Joel.
- 0:20It's not only is he a great leader,
- 0:22Hartford HealthCare has made this incredible commitment to
- 0:25digital health care
- 0:27over the years
- 0:28and and to being an incredibly
- 0:31adept and accessible system.
- 0:33Joel, we are so thrilled to be with
- 0:35you. Can you take a moment and tell
- 0:37us about both Hartford HealthCare and yourself?
- 0:40Sure, Scott. Thank you so much for inviting
- 0:42me, this afternoon. I'm it's really a pleasure
- 0:45to be with you and and talk about
- 0:47our organization and and the work that we're
- 0:49doing for our community. So, Hartford HealthCare
- 0:52is the largest health system in Connecticut
- 0:55with over about, over 500 locations.
- 0:58We have,
- 0:59a number of digital capabilities that I'm sure
- 1:02we're gonna talk about today,
- 1:03and our focus really is about,
- 1:05bringing access to all.
- 1:07Our mission is to improve the health and
- 1:09healing of all, and and our vision is
- 1:11to be the most trusted for personalized coordinated
- 1:13care. And so that really,
- 1:16in many ways,
- 1:17creates that focus
- 1:19of of of access,
- 1:21of, health equity,
- 1:23and also affordability,
- 1:26in terms of achieving, health care for all.
- 1:28So we're we're excited about the the mission
- 1:30and the vision,
- 1:32of that we have that we've been embarking
- 1:34on, for our community and and happy to
- 1:36talk about here today. Also, I'd like to
- 1:38make a plug that, you know, our organization
- 1:40is so proud
- 1:41that, we've had straight a's and leapfrog for
- 1:44the last,
- 1:45three cycles.
- 1:46It's, you know, just certainly something that we've
- 1:48been proud of because,
- 1:50the journey that we
- 1:51have taken on to get to there has
- 1:53not been a short one,
- 1:55and it started out with, fairly,
- 1:57low scores, if you will. But, gosh, it's
- 2:00a it's a it's a team effort.
- 2:0245,000
- 2:03employees have really focused on on quality. And
- 2:05in fact, this last year, we
- 2:07were able, to achieve,
- 2:09the 's quest for quality prize, which is
- 2:11given to only one health system in the
- 2:12country. So we're really proud of the work
- 2:14that's been,
- 2:15done so far and and looking forward to
- 2:17the future.
- 2:18Thank you. And and could you take a
- 2:20second, Joel, on sort of some of the
- 2:22initiatives, some of the things that you've done
- 2:24at Hartford HealthCare
- 2:26to sort of force this concept of access
- 2:28for everybody,
- 2:29taking care of everybody,
- 2:31more convenient access. I mean, it's been remarkable
- 2:34what the system has done over the last
- 2:35decade to two decades
- 2:37under great leadership.
- 2:38Talk about some of the things, some of
- 2:40the things you look at, some of the
- 2:41things you follow, some of the things you're
- 2:43doing.
- 2:44Yeah. So, you know,
- 2:45like many health systems,
- 2:47especially after
- 2:48the great work that folks have done to
- 2:50to get health systems on,
- 2:52you know, digital platforms or or rather the
- 2:54electronic health record,
- 2:56you know, I think it would be a
- 2:58mistake to say, hey. You know, we've digitized,
- 3:00health, and and that's where we stop. And
- 3:01I know a lot of my colleagues haven't
- 3:03stopped there, and we certainly haven't. You know,
- 3:05with our focus on personalized coordinated care,
- 3:09what that means for us is that, look,
- 3:11we have to know our patients.
- 3:12And to know our patients, you have to
- 3:14have data about them, at the very least
- 3:16harness the data, but really use the data
- 3:18to really understand them, personalize their experience,
- 3:21even create the next best action, which is
- 3:24really the coordination part of our vision.
- 3:26And that means that we have to leverage
- 3:28that data
- 3:29using
- 3:30technologies
- 3:31like AI and advanced analytics to really coordinate
- 3:34that journey for our our patients. And so
- 3:36the first thing that we started out with,
- 3:38Scott, was really how do we harness that
- 3:40data, and and it's really about bringing that
- 3:42data into a platform,
- 3:44you know, commingling that data,
- 3:46standardizing that data. And and then we've been
- 3:48talking in health care a lot about, you
- 3:50know, over the last two decades, a lot
- 3:52about interoperability
- 3:53and leveraging
- 3:54data. But, you know, now we've got the
- 3:56horsepower really in the platforms to do that.
- 3:58So data was the first part of our,
- 4:00our journey. You know, cloud, in order for
- 4:02us to actually,
- 4:04leverage,
- 4:05the compute and and,
- 4:07you know, and scale, really, the compute across
- 4:10a number of different initiatives,
- 4:12and that's a very important part of our,
- 4:14you know, backbone.
- 4:16But, really, as we think about,
- 4:18you know, what is it that we need
- 4:20to offer our patients, it's access, it's coordination
- 4:23of care, it's personalization,
- 4:25the work that we've done,
- 4:27you know, for example, on,
- 4:29you know, our our our digital front door,
- 4:31which allows patients to,
- 4:34to to do things from checking in, you
- 4:36know, at home to, you you know, filling
- 4:38out all their paperwork or, actually, there's no
- 4:40lot of paperwork. It's it's it's online,
- 4:43doing the things that you would normally do
- 4:45outside of health care. We've we've done that,
- 4:48you know, across the board to digitize
- 4:51the experience for our patients.
- 4:53And now we're getting into this place where,
- 4:55you know, how do you become truly consumer
- 4:57centric
- 4:58where, you know, I would say things like
- 5:01your electronic health records, your patient portal,
- 5:04even in some of the digital checking capabilities
- 5:06that we've got in place already, those are
- 5:07table stakes.
- 5:09It's really about, you know, how do you
- 5:11match,
- 5:12the experiences of consumers
- 5:14in other industries. Right? When you think of
- 5:17Netflix or or, you know, booking travel,
- 5:21all of that takes,
- 5:22you know, a lot of information,
- 5:24some level
- 5:25of digital twinning or benchmarking, and then certainly
- 5:28some level of,
- 5:29prediction
- 5:30and artificial intelligence to get you what you
- 5:32need and and when you need it. And
- 5:34that's what we're starting to really work on,
- 5:37now in our health system is is how
- 5:39do you leverage the data that we've now
- 5:40harnessed
- 5:42and use
- 5:43AI and digital capabilities to really enhance that
- 5:45experience for patients.
- 5:47Thank you. And and take a moment as
- 5:49as you look at going into 2026,
- 5:53what are you most focused and excited about?
- 5:55What where are the new evolutions? Is it
- 5:58doubling down on what you're doing? What are
- 5:59you most focused on and excited about as
- 6:01we get into the next year?
- 6:03Yeah. You know,
- 6:05I I'd say one of the things that
- 6:07is really exciting,
- 6:08particularly in this this this,
- 6:11age of AI is is really what the
- 6:13agentic era is offering. Now we've been working
- 6:16on agents,
- 6:18or what we actually initially called assistance,
- 6:21for the better part of the last two
- 6:23years.
- 6:24You know, using assistance
- 6:26and I'll differentiate,
- 6:27assistance and agents by just saying that assistance,
- 6:30you know, provide you with,
- 6:32you know, information or insights, answer questions. But
- 6:36an agent does that plus takes an action,
- 6:38like, maybe schedules an appointment for you or
- 6:41or, you know, cancels one or or or
- 6:44or or orders a matter or something of
- 6:45that nature. And so, you know, we're really
- 6:47excited about how,
- 6:49the agentic era can can really become a
- 6:52companion
- 6:53for our patients and for our, clinicians,
- 6:56as well as our colleagues,
- 6:58you know, in the administrative side. So we
- 7:00believe that,
- 7:02you know, this is a way for
- 7:04us to provide a capability to our patients
- 7:07to help them
- 7:08find out more about, the services that, you
- 7:11know, are are there for their care,
- 7:12find out more about their their clinical issues,
- 7:15maybe find out more about wellness,
- 7:18opportunities,
- 7:19really enable them to ask questions and get
- 7:21access to that information,
- 7:23more rapidly and and in the moment. You
- 7:26know, oftentimes,
- 7:28patients will wait
- 7:29days, if not weeks, to get an answer.
- 7:32And sometimes those answers are are just about,
- 7:35you know, what do I do next? You
- 7:36know? Or what is this remind me again
- 7:38what this is,
- 7:39in terms of, you know, the symptoms or
- 7:41my medications. And so we're really excited about
- 7:44the agentic era, and what that can offer
- 7:46our patients as well
- 7:48as our colleagues. And, you know, the other
- 7:51thing too that we're,
- 7:53you know, looking forward to in '26 is
- 7:55to try to understand how do we,
- 7:58redesign,
- 8:00the roles for our workforce.
- 8:02You know, there's a lot of concern about,
- 8:04you know, these these AI agents or or
- 8:07AI just broadly taking people's jobs.
- 8:10And we have to really get in front
- 8:11of that in terms of, you know, how
- 8:13do you
- 8:14really reimagine or redesign someone's
- 8:18role or job,
- 8:19and
- 8:20look for those those
- 8:22skills or tasks that could be automated?
- 8:25And then, you know, begin to work with
- 8:27them
- 8:28in elevating their work,
- 8:31leveraging that AI, but elevating their work to
- 8:33do more,
- 8:34of something different or maybe something more of
- 8:37high value, if you will. So, you know,
- 8:39we're certainly looking at that for '26 as
- 8:41well because we we do believe that our
- 8:43our our workforce and our colleagues are essential
- 8:45to the work in health care. We wanna
- 8:47make sure that,
- 8:48you know, we're looking out for for them
- 8:50and and and how their future
- 8:52roles will will change over time.
- 8:55We look about when we look at sort
- 8:57of agentic AI,
- 8:58and and it's a term that for most
- 9:00of us is a newer term, quite frankly.
- 9:04How quickly and where do you see that
- 9:06having the biggest impact?
- 9:09Yeah. You know, it's I I think the
- 9:11biggest impact,
- 9:12honestly, is
- 9:14on the administrative side,
- 9:16number one, I think for at least for
- 9:18the workforce side. You know, oftentimes,
- 9:20our
- 9:21our work is a lot of hunting and
- 9:23pecking and then, you know, taking
- 9:26action on information that we,
- 9:28have
- 9:29identified or discovered.
- 9:31And there are low level things that, you
- 9:34know, agents
- 9:35could and should do, actually, so that, you
- 9:38know, maybe that takes off five, twenty, thirty
- 9:41minutes, maybe an hour of someone's time
- 9:43hunting and pecking an email or or information
- 9:46to to just sort of take out that
- 9:47next step. So I think, you know, safely,
- 9:50an agent in the administrative side,
- 9:52you know, can certainly,
- 9:54provide that kind of automation and capability. And
- 9:57and at some level,
- 9:58you know, continue to reason,
- 10:01kind of,
- 10:02the next best action,
- 10:04for for that particular task.
- 10:06I think for for patients, you know, we
- 10:08we had we certainly believe that in the
- 10:11future,
- 10:12these agents,
- 10:15should be, you know, personalized for our for
- 10:18our patients for each of our patients because
- 10:20everyone has a unique,
- 10:22obviously, set of of of
- 10:24of of phenotype or genotype,
- 10:27you know, that's that that causes them to
- 10:29have a, you know, a different kind of
- 10:31clinical or or health experience.
- 10:34And we believe that,
- 10:35in the future, these agents
- 10:38will be the the assistant for for for
- 10:40our patients who will help them navigate,
- 10:43the the the health care journey. And so
- 10:45I I think that's where where we're really
- 10:48placing our bet and and and looking, to
- 10:50the future towards
- 10:52having that kind of assistant or colleague for,
- 10:55companion rather for for our patients.
- 10:58Good. Thank you. And and and, Joel, you've
- 11:00had this remarkable career.
- 11:02Can you take people a little bit through
- 11:04the trajectory of your career
- 11:06and when you started doing this role at
- 11:09Hartford
- 11:10and just a little background on how you
- 11:11got to where you are today?
- 11:14Yeah. You know, I it's I've always been
- 11:15in the health care industry. Started out actually,
- 11:18I believe it or out of medical school.
- 11:20And,
- 11:21you know,
- 11:23in my third year of medical school, actually,
- 11:25going into my PhD years,
- 11:27I, you know, got connected,
- 11:29with with a professor
- 11:32at BU who was,
- 11:33my thesis professor, thesis adviser,
- 11:35and he just happened
- 11:37to be working at an organization that one
- 11:40of the early EHRs
- 11:41back in the early two thousands.
- 11:44And, you know, long story short, he's the
- 11:47one that kind of, you know, awakened the
- 11:50sort of creative part of my brain that,
- 11:54you know, really looked, loved to solve problems
- 11:57and and also loved to use data, to
- 12:00solve those problems. And so ever since,
- 12:03you know, I I I
- 12:04was working with him in the early two
- 12:06thousands on my thesis,
- 12:08I discovered that data if we could unlock
- 12:11the data, the data could be
- 12:13a real answer for a lot of the,
- 12:15like, I think, the clinical problems that
- 12:18we use today and and a lot of
- 12:20these even clinical operational problems that we that
- 12:23we face today. And so my my, journey
- 12:26really
- 12:27has been about
- 12:28chasing data, Scott. And and in chasing the
- 12:31data, I realized, you know, I had to
- 12:34also own the infrastructure and and, you know,
- 12:36owning the infrastructure
- 12:38just sort of got me to take on
- 12:40a lot more of the of the technology.
- 12:42But along the way, I I I gotta
- 12:44say, you know, I'm so grateful to all
- 12:46of my mentors and,
- 12:48and, you know, my my bosses and CIOs
- 12:50who had believed
- 12:52in my vision of of really leveraging data,
- 12:56to to advance
- 12:57technology
- 12:58and and and and clinical operations.
- 13:01And, you know, they they continued to to
- 13:04fuel that desire. And so, you know, I
- 13:06went from,
- 13:07you know, a a sort of a medical
- 13:09student researcher to, you know, quickly,
- 13:12an informatician at, at Master General Brigham to,
- 13:16you know, chief applications,
- 13:18officer at, Boston Medical Center.
- 13:21And then, I was I did a a
- 13:22short stint at GE as a as a
- 13:24GM for, really an innovation platform.
- 13:28And then my first CIO job was at
- 13:30Baystate Health,
- 13:31which is a little north of us here
- 13:33at Hartford. And and then I went on
- 13:35to Hartford. I recruited to Hartford, to be
- 13:37the chief digital,
- 13:39information officer. And and, really, the focus
- 13:42is is kind of the dream. It's, you
- 13:44know, leverage the data
- 13:45to develop
- 13:47capabilities
- 13:47that really transform health care. And, and and
- 13:50and, really, the the vision of consumerism
- 13:53is at the heart of that. So or
- 13:54consumer centric,
- 13:56experience is at the heart of that. So,
- 13:58you know, I wake up every day living
- 13:59the dream. This is the this is where
- 14:01we you know, where I was hoping to
- 14:03land and,
- 14:04I just I just love what I'm doing
- 14:06and I I, you know, I can't wait
- 14:07to to continue to solve problems that we
- 14:09have in health care.
- 14:11No. It it's really a remarkable thing. I'm
- 14:13gonna ask you one more question.
- 14:16And you have to let me know, Joel,
- 14:17if you're prepared for this question.
- 14:20K. So so here is the question. You
- 14:22may be the first person that we've ever
- 14:24had on that has degrees
- 14:27from three different Boston based universities.
- 14:30About three great universities, Boston College,
- 14:34Harvard
- 14:35University, and Boston University.
- 14:38Yep. Give us thirty seconds
- 14:41if you've got a favorite or a least
- 14:43favorite, and you don't have to go there
- 14:44if you don't want to,
- 14:45or you could tell us thirty seconds on
- 14:48pros and cons of each of our what
- 14:49you loved about
- 14:51BU, BC,
- 14:52Harvard Medical School. Just give us a moment
- 14:55on the three.
- 14:57You know, I love all three of them,
- 14:58but I'll tell you. So I met my
- 15:00wife at Boston College.
- 15:02My second,
- 15:03child goes to BC now. She's a sophomore
- 15:05there.
- 15:06So I gotta say Boston College is is
- 15:09is my,
- 15:10is my university, if you will. And, unfortunately,
- 15:13our football team is not doing really, really
- 15:15well right now. We're one and eight, but,
- 15:18but, hey, there's more than just football at
- 15:20BC. But, yeah, I have to say Boston
- 15:22College because of those factors.
- 15:24And does that make you a Doug Flutie
- 15:27fan as well?
- 15:29Of course. I mean, he was well before
- 15:31my time, but, you know, he's a legend.
- 15:33Right? I mean, that's,
- 15:35that's an that's just an amazing highlight reel,
- 15:37and and without a doubt, that's that's embedded
- 15:40in every BC year that goes through that
- 15:41school. They they know Doug Flutie,
- 15:44and, and that that that reel just,
- 15:47is always, shown in every football game, and
- 15:49it's just a it's just a wonderful moment
- 15:51for us. It is simply remarkable. Joe, what
- 15:54a pleasure to visit with you. You're doing
- 15:55great work. Hartford HealthCare does amazing work. You
- 15:58do amazing work. Thank you for joining us
- 16:00today on the Beckers HealthCare podcast. What a
- 16:02great pleasure to visit with you. It was
- 16:03my pleasure, Scott. Thank you so much.