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FREAKS! Pedophile-pervs target schoolchildren tele-schooling during COVID · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A massive bust of pedophiles online and guess how they're
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  Speaker 1: doing it. They're using Corona virus. They know children are
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  Speaker 1: at home during quarantine, lockdown, curfew, and they're using that
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  Speaker 1: to their advantage in the last days one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest busts of online pedophiles. How are they getting away
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  Speaker 1: with it? And how do the bust go down? Bitsy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Take
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friend Julie Carry It. C four Washington News.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty men accused of trying to sexually exploit children online.
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  Speaker 1: Fairfax County Police often run undercover operations at times kids
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  Speaker 1: are home for holiday or spring break. Detectives pose online
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  Speaker 1: as children, but identifying thirty alleged predators in just ten
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  Speaker 1: days surprising even to police, and the numbers are staggering,
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  Speaker 1: very disappointing, disheartening. Major Edel Carroll says the arrest should
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  Speaker 1: send a clear signal to parents. They need to be
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  Speaker 1: especially vigilant now about monitoring their kids online activity. But
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  Speaker 1: parents need to know the platforms be proactive. The National
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  Speaker 1: Center for Missing and Exploited Children ready to help with
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  Speaker 1: an online series of videos aimed at elementary age kids.
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  Speaker 1: Eliza McCoy works on outreach and prevention there. We've certainly
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  Speaker 1: seen an increase in reports of online exploitation of children. Guys, again,
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  Speaker 1: you were just hearing from NBC four Washington. This is
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest busts of online pedophiles, sex predators
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  Speaker 1: that are searching out children during coronavirus. But it happens
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  Speaker 1: all the time. But this is like when you hear
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  Speaker 1: special on Aisle four. They know that children are home
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  Speaker 1: during coronavirus curfews, lockdown's quarantines, and they are using it
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  Speaker 1: to their advantage. It's like the lion sneaking up or
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  Speaker 1: the jackal sneaking up on the animals, the gazelles at
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  Speaker 1: the watering hole. They wait for that moment when there
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  Speaker 1: is chaos, confusion, such as a thunderbolt in the distance,
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  Speaker 1: and the moment the gazelle are not paying attention, that
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  Speaker 1: is when they strike. Right now, children are home their
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  Speaker 1: home because of COVID nineteen and this is the time
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  Speaker 1: editors are turning coronavirus to their advantage. With me an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel, and I'm going to lead off with
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  Speaker 1: special guest Alicia Kozakowitz, survivor of an online predator that
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  Speaker 1: kidnapped her from her home after a holiday dinner with
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  Speaker 1: all of her family and took her far away and
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  Speaker 1: held her in a dungeon, torturing her before she was
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  Speaker 1: miraculously saved. You can find her at Alicia Kozak Kozak
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  Speaker 1: dot com, Tausiana Jordan CMO, Chief Marketing Officer, Chief Parenting
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  Speaker 1: Officer at bark I. Let her explain what that is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a way to protect your children. We have it.
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  Speaker 1: Detective rich with Stocky at Bishare Consulting dot com. Derek Ellington,
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  Speaker 1: expert an online activity fraud examiner at Ellington dot net.
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  Speaker 1: Psychoanalyst to the Stars. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from
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  Speaker 1: LA She's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. But first
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  Speaker 1: to Nicole Parton, investigative reporter, joining me from Crime online
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Nicole, tell me about this massive PETO bust.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty alleged pedophiles arrested in just one Virginia county in
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  Speaker 1: this undercover investigation they're calling Operation COVID Crackdown. Fairfax County
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  Speaker 1: Police arrested thirty men ages twenty. Okay, Nicole, Nicole, Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: you know this like the back of your hand. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got to slow down. We've got to take this in.
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  Speaker 1: Slow it down, sister, start over, Nicole. Are you still
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  Speaker 1: with me all right? Or did you just hang Ama? No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. And guys, I want to point out
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  Speaker 1: that not only is Nicole an investigative reporter, she's a mom.
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  Speaker 1: What is it three children, Nicole? Or has four? Okay, right,
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  Speaker 1: you just adopted another baby. Thank you for that clarification.
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  Speaker 1: So this is especially meaningful to you. Okay, start over,
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter and mommy go ahead. Thirty alleged pedophiles arrested
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  Speaker 1: in just one Virginia County Nancy. In this undercover investigation
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  Speaker 1: that they're calling Operation COVID Crackdown, Fairfax County Police arrested
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  Speaker 1: thirty men ages twenty to seventy four years old golicited. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, twenty to seventy four, that's right. Let me
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  Speaker 1: just drink that in for one moment. Jackie, seventy four
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  Speaker 1: year old men online trying to get little children. Now, Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out of order. I want you to
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  Speaker 1: go to your cut thirteen. But hold on, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to deal with a seventy four year old
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  Speaker 1: man trying to snag of what a nine year old
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  Speaker 1: kid online to doctor Bethany Marshall. Psycho Analys's joining me
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  Speaker 1: out of Beverly Hills. You know, you think that by
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  Speaker 1: seventy four they wouldn't be doing this. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to tell you a quick story. I prosecuted a guy millionaire.
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  Speaker 1: He ran all of the carriage and livery trade as
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  Speaker 1: it was called in Atlanta. You know those horse drawn
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  Speaker 1: carriages that take you through parks limos all that. He
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  Speaker 1: ran all that for I know, with an iron fist
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  Speaker 1: for over twenty years in Atlanta. And I found out
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  Speaker 1: about a three year old little girl. Her I think
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  Speaker 1: seven year old sister Mommy, had been living with him,
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  Speaker 1: and he had full on rape both of the girls
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  Speaker 1: for I don't know how long I got to working
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  Speaker 1: the case, Bethany. Now he's up in his late sixties.
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  Speaker 1: Now I found seven similar transactions. One was his first
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  Speaker 1: natural daughter. Oh, he had thirty four natural children by
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  Speaker 1: various women. I found his daughter, now grown. I found
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  Speaker 1: her in a sleepover moteled extended step indicator, Georgia. She
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  Speaker 1: smelled like cigarettes and alcohol because she had turned into
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  Speaker 1: an alcoholic. He raped her when she was fifteen, and
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  Speaker 1: I found so many. Another one of his daughters went
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  Speaker 1: on to write books and lecture the whole country about incest.
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  Speaker 1: So they had very different outcomes of seven similar transactions
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  Speaker 1: dating back to his early twenties. He's now almost seventy,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew then child molesters never stop. But that's anecdotal.
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  Speaker 1: You tell me you're the shrink. Okay, Nancy, here's what's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: All other crimes, bank robberies, homicide, crimes side involve aggression.
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  Speaker 1: These times of types of tendencies tend to fade or
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  Speaker 1: ameliorate over age as men age, So there's a biologically
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  Speaker 1: based mellowing effect in criminals, so they offend less frequently
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  Speaker 1: when they get older. Accept for child bilesters, that is
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  Speaker 1: the one and only crime that actually in time. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you cut out, Ammy Beth and a. You said, that's
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  Speaker 1: the only crime that actually does watch increases over time. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we're at hope that these guys will age out.
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  Speaker 1: And another thing, Nicole Parton told me that this happened
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  Speaker 1: in Fairfax, Virginia. Thirty guys rounded up in this one area,
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  Speaker 1: totally busted pervs trying to lure children online. But don't
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  Speaker 1: be lulled into thinking it's just in Fairfax. Listen to
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  Speaker 1: this true story we covered Wi SN twelve News reporter
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  Speaker 1: Derek Rose Tommy Lee. Jenkins first conviction on child sex
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  Speaker 1: charges was in twenty eleven. Now he's charged in a
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  Speaker 1: new investigation. Documents show Jenkins used Facebook to communicate with
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  Speaker 1: someone he thought it was fourteen. It was actually an
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  Speaker 1: undercover deputy who asked, do you care I'm fourteen and
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  Speaker 1: drink Jenkins reply, According to the records, no Prosecutors claimed
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  Speaker 1: Jenkins initiated the topic of sex and wanted the undercover
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  Speaker 1: to send a picture with no shirt no pans, asking
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  Speaker 1: when you get here, would you like to have sex
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  Speaker 1: with me? The undercover responded yes, and Jenkins allegedly told
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  Speaker 1: the undercover he planned to walk nearly four hundred miles
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  Speaker 1: from Whitestown, Indiana, to Nina, Wisconsin to meet for sex.
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  Speaker 1: On the way, prosecutors claimed Jenkins documented the trip with
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  Speaker 1: selfies and pictures of exit signs, and on Thursday, records
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  Speaker 1: show Jenkins told the undercover he made it to Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: and wanted to have five hundred kids before we are
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  Speaker 1: with God. Instead, Jenkins found investigators waiting to take him
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  Speaker 1: back to jail. Did you hear that? Did you hear that?
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  Speaker 1: The man walks three hundred and fifty miles from Indiana
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  Speaker 1: to Wisconsin to get at a fourteen year old girl.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear that? So you think these guys are
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  Speaker 1: just in Fairfax. Oh no, no, no, no, they will travel.
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  Speaker 1: And not only that, he documented it by taking selfies
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  Speaker 1: along the way the way I would document our r
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  Speaker 1: V trip crime stories with Nancy Grace to detective which
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  Speaker 1: was Stocky at b Sure Consulting dot com. What do
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  Speaker 1: you make of this massive pedophile bust? Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've spent thirty years chasing predators at the Naperville on
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  Speaker 1: the police Pernamenter retired a couple of years ago. What
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  Speaker 1: happens is is that nine of these guys that are
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  Speaker 1: arrested have never had been arrested before. And that's the misconception.
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  Speaker 1: Like communities will look at the sex offender registry, these
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  Speaker 1: guys have never been arrested before. It is a secret life.
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  Speaker 1: Most of these guys are married, have children, great jobs,
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  Speaker 1: and where we need to concentrate our efforts. Like Alicia
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  Speaker 1: does and like I do and Tiana does. We go
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  Speaker 1: into schools and we show kids what the warning signs are. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all these guys have been in Minecraft, rode blocks fortnight
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  Speaker 1: and then what we train our kids in school, and
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  Speaker 1: we train them as they look. If someone takes you
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  Speaker 1: to another site off the game, they are not who
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  Speaker 1: they say. They are so little tricks of the trade
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  Speaker 1: that these predators use. And I've arrested over three hundred
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  Speaker 1: predators in my career. I was an i CAAC member
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  Speaker 1: from its inception Internet Crimes against Children and these guys
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  Speaker 1: in Virginia do a fantastic job. Always start patting everybody
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  Speaker 1: on the bat which is totally acceptable and it is
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  Speaker 1: totally called for. I want to get at information about
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  Speaker 1: this bust and how we can help people back to
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  Speaker 1: you Nicole Parton, investigative reporter, joining us from crime Online
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. Nicole, thirty guys and just a few days.
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  Speaker 1: That's a tip of the iceberg. But tell me about
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  Speaker 1: the bust. Tell me how police, how undercover agents found
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  Speaker 1: out about the purvs. So these men started sexual explicit
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  Speaker 1: conversations with who they thought were children online and then
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  Speaker 1: agreed to meet up for sex. So once they arrived
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  Speaker 1: at the agreed locations, rather than being met up by
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  Speaker 1: the children they thought they were going to have sex with,
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  Speaker 1: they were met by police police arresting thirty pedophiles in
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  Speaker 1: just one Virginia county as part of a COVID crackdown.
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  Speaker 1: It was an operation set up to help protect children
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  Speaker 1: who were vulnerable to online abuse while taking classes their
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  Speaker 1: school classes on the internet. And I want to go
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  Speaker 1: now to Tassiana Jordan, the CMO chief Marketing Officer and
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  Speaker 1: parenting officer for Bark. First of all, Tassiana, what is Bark? Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me and for highlighting
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  Speaker 1: this issue. Bark is technology that keeps children safer online
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  Speaker 1: and in real life and has actually helped to escalate
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  Speaker 1: over four hundred and fifty online predators to law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: since inception. You know it's it's extremely sensitive because I
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  Speaker 1: use Bark and that's how I found out about you,
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  Speaker 1: Tassiana Jordan. What it does is it monitors all your
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  Speaker 1: children's online activities. And of course my children know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm using it. For instance, they pick up any curse
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  Speaker 1: word they pick up. Here's a good one. My son
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  Speaker 1: was playing soccer with school and he was goalie and
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  Speaker 1: his arms went through the networ and he took a
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  Speaker 1: picture of it. He was proud of it, and he
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  Speaker 1: sent it to a friend and look what happened at
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  Speaker 1: soccer But I saved I think he saved the goal. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Bark picked up on a picture of a bruise and
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  Speaker 1: immediately sent me an email saying self harm. If there
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  Speaker 1: is an ugly word, it can even be as simple
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  Speaker 1: as H, double L or damn. It alerts you something
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  Speaker 1: is going on. That's right. I'm just over. I'm thrilled
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  Speaker 1: with the way Bark is working. And it takes you back,
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  Speaker 1: It gives you the alert and then you can actually
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  Speaker 1: see the screenshot of what was sent or what your
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  Speaker 1: child saw. I want to get back to you, Nicole
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  Speaker 1: parton joining us investigative reporter. So the men were arrested
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  Speaker 1: at locations where they had agreed to meet the underage children.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct, Nicole? Pardon? What more can you tell me?
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  Speaker 1: That's correct? So after conversations, and again this only lasted
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  Speaker 1: for ten days, so things went from talk of sex
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  Speaker 1: to planning to meet to have sex within a very
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  Speaker 1: short period of time. So they would agree up on
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  Speaker 1: a location, these pedophiles would show up, but once they
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  Speaker 1: were there, of course there was no children. But they
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  Speaker 1: were met by detectives and they were arrested guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at the photos of these guys busted. You can
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  Speaker 1: find them at crime online dot com and their names
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  Speaker 1: are written horizontally beside their pictures. Here's all of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at them, and most of them they look
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  Speaker 1: like anybody. They don't look That's a common misconception to
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall joining me out of LA When you
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  Speaker 1: say perv or pedophile or child molester, you think of
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  Speaker 1: some creepy white dude at the corner of the playground
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  Speaker 1: wearing a raincoa black soots and black she's with a
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  Speaker 1: hat on. It's going to open the rain coode and
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  Speaker 1: flash you. These guys don't look like that at all,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany. And while I've got you, circle back for
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  Speaker 1: me on I believe it was detective was Stocky was no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it was Alicia. Alicia. Because Kevitch talking about if you're
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  Speaker 1: arrested one time, how many other times have you molested?
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  Speaker 1: Well to comment on that, Nancy, these stats are that
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  Speaker 1: on average, a pedophile offends for thirteen years before he's
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  Speaker 1: apprehended thirteen years. Extra familial offenders mail on boys offend
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  Speaker 1: an average of five hundred and sixty one times with
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  Speaker 1: different victims. Intrafamilial offenders offend far greater rate because they
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  Speaker 1: have more access to the victims. Your other question, Tell
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  Speaker 1: me your other question again. Oh say yeah, I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: and all these pictures at crime online dot com all
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  Speaker 1: these guys, and Jackie is correcting me. It all went
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  Speaker 1: down in Fairfax. But they were drawing from a couple
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  Speaker 1: of different statements from at least thank you, Marilyn d
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  Speaker 1: C in Virginia, all around the Fairfax area. But back
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  Speaker 1: to what they look like, Yes, Nancy, this disorder pedophilia
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  Speaker 1: knows no culture, knows, no race, knows no ethnicity, knows
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  Speaker 1: no socioeconomic level. These men are bankers, priests, fathers, mechanics.
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  Speaker 1: They are men from all walks of life. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to tell you the most affluent probably offends the
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  Speaker 1: most frequently because they have the most access. If you
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  Speaker 1: are poor and you're living in a room with six
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  Speaker 1: other people in a small apartment and you're a pedophile,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to get away to
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  Speaker 1: offend us frequently. Now, if you're an intra familial offender,
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  Speaker 1: of course, that that rate of offense will increase. But
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  Speaker 1: if you are a banker and you make millions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year, and you're living in your six thousand
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  Speaker 1: square foot mansion, and you go to your own little
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  Speaker 1: you know, your beautiful office in a corner of the house,
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  Speaker 1: you can offend as much as you want. You can
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  Speaker 1: be a predator in daylight and nobody is going to
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  Speaker 1: suspect you because we do think as predators as being
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  Speaker 1: in you know, the flasher in the dark trench coat.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true. They are a heterogeneous group. They come
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  Speaker 1: from all walks of life. Guys and under the National
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  Speaker 1: Center Missing Employed Children, am I hearing, dear Ellington or
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  Speaker 1: Rich was stocky? Rich was stocky. Every internet predator can
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  Speaker 1: have up the two hundred and fifty victims in their
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  Speaker 1: lifetime and they've never been arrested before Climb stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Gray. Guys, we are talking about a major, major
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  Speaker 1: crackdown on online pedophiles and it just went down Virginia County.
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  Speaker 1: It was called COVID Crackdown, operation set up to protect
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  Speaker 1: children who are being lured online by predators. It was
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  Speaker 1: called COVID crackdown because the predators are actually using the
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  Speaker 1: fact that children are home, being homeschool teleschool like minear
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  Speaker 1: to lure them online. Take a listen now to our
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  Speaker 1: friend at Detroit WDIV four newsreporter Hank Winchester. Parks are closed,
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  Speaker 1: taped off, children are inside, and unfortunately, sexual predators know it.
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  Speaker 1: They also know children may be focused on their phones, iPads,
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  Speaker 1: and computers. The threat is bigger than ever before, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a big concern for the FBI. Sting Lawnmark. Kids
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  Speaker 1: are on the streets more than they used to be.
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  Speaker 1: Predators who may normally cruise parks or find children in
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  Speaker 1: other public places are now taking everything online. People are
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  Speaker 1: inside and your kids are focused on digital devices, which
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  Speaker 1: is why you, as a parent need to be extra vigilant.
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  Speaker 1: People don't always realize this is really good privacy studings
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  Speaker 1: on these tablets and these devices in your online gaming
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  Speaker 1: systems as well. Right, you make sure that you're doing
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  Speaker 1: all those checking all those things the privacies say to
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  Speaker 1: make sure you know what your children are watching and
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  Speaker 1: they're what you're aware of. Understand The FBI continues to
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  Speaker 1: track predators online and also works to investigate other major crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Just because the public is on lockdown doesn't mean these
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  Speaker 1: agents aren't hard at work. Thank god they're at work.
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  Speaker 1: They got thirty pedophiles and a massive bust and it
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  Speaker 1: only took them a couple of days to round them up.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what your child is doing online? I
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  Speaker 1: think I do, But take a listen now to ABC
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  Speaker 1: four News reporter Ann Emerson. An eleven year old driver
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  Speaker 1: on a three hour trip pulls over randomly into a
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  Speaker 1: restaurant parking lot early Monday morning. A police cruiser is there,
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  Speaker 1: and he needed help. And also Braun was in the
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  Speaker 1: right place at the right time. It's a litle to
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  Speaker 1: find out why he was in Charleston, where he was
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  Speaker 1: where he was supposed to be an officer on night duty.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The eleven year old pulls in. Within a minute, the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: officer gets out to investigate. The boy shakes hands with
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the officer. Within twenty three minutes from the initial meeting,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the child gets into the cruiser. The boy told police
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  Speaker 1: he was from Simpsonville. He said he took his brother's
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  Speaker 1: car and drove two hundred miles to meet a man
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  Speaker 1: from Snapchat. He said he was going to live with him.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: An eleven year old little boy meets a predator on Snapchat,
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  Speaker 1: gets into the family car in the middle of the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: night and tries to drive all the way three hundred miles.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven year old boy. He happened, thank God, to pull
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  Speaker 1: into a restaurant parking lot. I think to check his geolocation,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and it just so happened that a miracle occurred. An
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: officer was sitting in the parking lot late, late, late
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: at night, early morning hours and seize a carpool and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: couldn't even see a driver. It was an eleven year
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  Speaker 1: old boy behind the wheel trying to hook up with
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a guy. Go live with a guy he met on Snapchat.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Doesn't even know what sex is, and this guy had
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: lured him that far away. In the last hour's police
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: busting thirty pedophiles in just one county Fairfax as part
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of COVID crackdown to protect children or who are home
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  Speaker 1: at who are home telescooling to Alicia Kozakevich at Alicia
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  Speaker 1: kozak dot com, Alicia, how do they do it now?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I know that you met your in a chat room
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think, or on Facebook, but now they're getting into
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: all sorts of for instance, Snapchat, they're getting into Instagram,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: they're getting into Minecraft, or to Fortnight. How does it happen? Alicia, So,
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  Speaker 1: I was groomed. I was introduced to this person in
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a chat room, Facebook, YouTube, None of that existed yet.
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  Speaker 1: This was back in two thousand and two, and I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: was the first case to receive high profile media attention.
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  Speaker 1: In Internet. Luring and grooming is incredibly simple. It's just
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  Speaker 1: pretending to be a child's friend and being there for them.
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  Speaker 1: And kids struggle with so many vulnerabilities and so many insecurities,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and these predators feed on those. They find them and
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  Speaker 1: they exploit them. And what they do is they make
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  Speaker 1: the child feel whole, They make the child feel accepted.
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  Speaker 1: And while they're doing this, they're pulling them away from
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: their friends and their family and their teachers and people
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  Speaker 1: who can protect them, and sort of in some ways,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: turning them against them. The issue with grooming is though,
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  Speaker 1: that it is not entirely visible. It looks like being
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a teenager. The child spends more time online, more time alone,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't hang out with their friends as much, is maybe
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit crankier than normal. That is just being
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a teenager. And that's why parents have to be so
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: alert and have to work so hard to protect their children.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: This is a really overwhelming time. But this is something
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that cannot be ignored. The kids are home and the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: predators are home, and they are picking these kids out
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and easily able to find them. They know where they
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: are and they're going to be in the place is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: where the kid right end the most time to Detective
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  Speaker 1: Rich with Stocky joining me from bait Sure Consulting dot Com,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Detective was Stocky, how does it? How does this sting work?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Do the Feds or the cops go online and search
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: for certain words? How do they catch the pedophiles? Actually,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it's really easy. It's it's two different ways. Either we
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: teach children how to report, we take over their account
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and become them. Or we have profiles out there and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: we are playing actually Fortnite in TikTok Minecraft, we have
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: all these fraudulent or fake accounts that we have and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we're just playing the game and they come, we set
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: up the profile and they just it's like shooting fishing
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and the barrel Nancy. Really, there are so many. The
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: problem is there's not enough Internet crimes investigators to do.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: This is just gratching the surface. How many guys they
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: caught in one area. Most police departments don't even have
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: an i CAC member to do these types of things.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You're so right about that detective was talking Derek Ellington,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: expert in online activity at ellington dot net. How do
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the cops go about finding the pedophiles? I mean, just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: think about it, Derek. You tell a police officer who's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: used to work in a beat out on the street,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you say, okay, they're online pedophiles targeting our children, stop them.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: What do you do? How do they do it? Well?
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, see, it's it's unfortunately not as difficult as
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: one might think. In that as everyone has talked about,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there. They've got
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of free time. And you know, when the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: officers who do this go to the same places that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: our children are, um, they can they can separate a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: lot of times the pedophiles from the regular children pretty easily.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But I know it seems all very overwhelming for parents.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But there are some things that parents can do. There
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: are some good resources out there. Bark a technology like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that can be very helpful. Common Sense Media is a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: nonprofit website that has a lot of resources for parents.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But the main thing that I think parents can look
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: at is one of the things we hear from parents
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: is they worry about their kids' privacies and they worry
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: about respecting their kids' privacies. Well, you can't respect your
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: children's privacies and keep them safe. You need to know
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. And even though it's overwhelming for parents,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's a lot simpler if you if you start
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the conversation, have the conversation with the kids, know who
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they're associating with, know who they're they're talking with online.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: One thing that will tell parents if you wouldn't let
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a random fifty year old come and sit on your
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: play video games with your kids, don't let your kids
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: do that online. There are a lot of parents out
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: there that would not let their kid have a cell phone.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They would say they're eight year old, nine year old,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: twelve year old is too young for a cell phone,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: but they have a video game, an Xbox with a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: camera with a headset connected to the internet where they
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: can talk. And the other point, one other point, Nancy,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: is that we always have that saying about its sense
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of how you say it, and what makes our children
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: so vulnerable nowadays is that because most of their conversations
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: are digital, they lose that body language. They lose that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: ability to see someone's vibe, to be able to judge someone.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, for a lot of our children, you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: if they could see what these pedophiles look like, if
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: they could experience them face to face, then obviously well
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to experiences crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, thank you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation. In serious
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: X one eleven. In the last days, a massive bust
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of thirty pedophiles. It's called Operation COVID Crackdown. And it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: just in one small area, thirty guys in just a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: couple of days. And that was one police force working
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in Fairfax County. So what's happening in your backyard and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: your home on your child's screen, Guys, I want you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to take a listen now to Crime online dot Com
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Dave mac Thirty men arrested in northern Virginia
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: charged with trolling the Internet US at sex from miners.
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  Speaker 1: The arrest where the result of a sting operation called
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Operation COVID Crackdown, the intent to nab predators exploiting children's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: increase online presence due to school closures and stay at
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: home orders to combat the coronavirus. The men arrested went
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: online to initiate explicit conversations and solicit sex, but the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: children they thought they were talking to were actually police
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: officers posing as children. Each of the suspects agreed to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: meet their targets in person at specified locations. Detectives arrested
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the men when they showed up. The men ranged in
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: age from twenty to seventy four. Most live in Northern Virginia,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but some came from Maryland, West Virginia, and DC. All together,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they're facing a combined sixty eight felonies. Sixty eight felonies.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Their photos and names are posted at crime online dot com.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Now let's go to CBS five Arizona newsreporter Emma Lockheart.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: While in isolation, there are still dangers lurking behind the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: computer and phone screen. These people and quarantine too, so
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: there are quite a few. There is a lot more
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: predators online now than there would have been pre quarantine.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Detective Scott Peatrack with the MESA Police Department says, now
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: more than ever, parents need to be on high alert.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: They need to get in their kids business, do spot
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: texts on their phones, know who they're talking to, know
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: what kind of social media apps they're using. Peatrack recommends
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: having an open conversation with your children about how to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: stay safe. That's the very first thing right there, is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: having the conversation with the kids and letting them know
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be given out personal information, you shouldn't
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: be sending out pictures. Glendale mother of three Jennifer Marston
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Tanovic is well aware of the dangers out there in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: her home. Monitoring her children's activity goes without saying. For
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: anything that involves the computer, we try to have it
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in an open area where it can be viewed by
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the rest of our family at any time. The officers
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: at Fairfax County Police found pedophiles starting quote explicit conversation
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: with children online then trying to quote initiate sex with them,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and we are getting that directly from the arrest warrants.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: The alleged pedophiles, all men age twenty to seventy four,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: were arrested at locations where they had actually agreed to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: meet the children. And any lawyer can explain that you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: can say anything almost anything anyway online, but the overt act,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: as it is called in the law, the next step,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the one step makes this a felony. They not only
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: lure the children online, they have explicit sexual conversations with
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: them online, but they get in their vehicle or in
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the case I showed, you walk three hundred and fifty
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: miles to get to the target child in order to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: have sex with them. And the reality is Alicia Koza
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Kevich joining me from Alicia Kozak dot com. Way in, Alicia,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I mean you were held by a choke caller in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a dungeon, by a pedophile, but you miraculously lived way
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in Well, what's true that statistically children in a stranger
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: abduction are murdered within the first three hours, so the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: clock is really kicking and every second count. In my case,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: people often ask me, did you think that he was
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: going to kill you? And it wasn't a question of if,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it was a question of when. So my goal was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to stay alive long enough to be rescued. And in
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: these cases, it's interesting because people go off of what
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they've seen in movies that Okay, maybe you've been blindfolded
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and this person will drop you off underneath the bridge
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and you won't go to the cops, and that this
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: all plays them to do it all they have to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: go on is movie and televisions, and the fact is
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that this person is left with really no other option
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: than to dispose of the child. Guys, I'm taking a
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: look at what the cops did. All thirty of these pedophiles.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Alleged pedophiles face more than one count of solicitation of
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a minor and so much more. I'm looking at major
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Ed Carroll, the commander of Major Crime Zubureau for the department, said,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: our detectives have remained vigilant and they recognize the increased
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: threat to Nicole parton joining US Crime online dot Com
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole. What is Carrol referring to? See? It's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: estimated that fifty million children in the United States are
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: home from school right now because of COVID nineteen, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: most of those fifty million children, like my children, like yours,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: they're taking online school class. So more time online means
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: more time they can put two of these pedophiles. Take
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a listen now, guys to our francs at Khou eleven
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Melissa Korea. Video games these days come with a chat
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: room feature, and while there are versions of games just
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: for kids, YouTube reminds US adults can easily sneak in.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: They'll start developing their own relationships with those kids there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: They'll go on there, they'll start talking to them, They'll
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: pretend to be children themselves. Sergeant Louiseman and this Sierra
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: investigates online child sex crimes. Houston Police are tracking a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: two hundred percent increase in cybertips within the last three years.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of those new cases start, Hey, how are you,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: what's your name? Where do you live? With a simple chat,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Hey do you play often? What games you'd like to play?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And then it leads to hey, do you have a girlfriend?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Oh no? Or yes you know? Oh you don't. Why
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: don't you? Do you have another device where we can talk,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: or another platform where we can talk and share pictures. Oh,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I want to see what you look like? And then
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: next thing, you know, there's an appropriate picture exchange. And
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: that's where it just barrels her to control. You know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it's just striking fear in my heart when I hear that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Guys in this last bus, a massive bus, thirty pad
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of hiles. They were snagged, but how many have slipped
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: through our fingers? Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off goodbye friend,