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Mid-Week Bonus #6 · United We Scan

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Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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United We Scan podcast. Welcome back everybody, to a
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surprise midweek episode. This will be a little bit of a
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doozy. I have a forewarning about, so
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we'll just cut to the chase, James.
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Facts, James, Just the facts. Just just the facts.
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So last week everybody was getting the sheets posted around
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about the change in the Rex activity scans and the
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management being able to edit them.
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So we put that together with the rural route optimization stuff,
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which the union was kind enough to pass out because it was
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affecting carriers, and they agreed to it back when Rex was
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initially implemented. Well, we talked about it Sunday
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night. The episode was posted.
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People started listening to it Sunday night, Monday morning.
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Well, this morning, our wonderful union elected national
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officers decided to finally put out a notification that, oh, by
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the way, management is now going to be doing this.
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We're over seven days beyond the time that it was started to be
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noticed on social media. So the question that we have to
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ask as presenters on this podcast is #1 why did it take so
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long? And #2 why did it take a podcast
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talking about it to get our national boards to actually say
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anything about it? You know, where is the
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transparency? So this episode is titled
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Transparency versus Secrecy because we're being transparent
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with the craft while others are hiding stuff from the craft.
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What do you think, Bill? Oh God, just another in the long
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list of failures by our leadership.
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Again, here we are finding out information beforehand.
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And the worst part is we're finding out from the post office
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who's not usually that proactive in providing us information
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front. And again, the it's the entire
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thing is sketchy because of the fact that we now have a new
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program in test 2 weeks and what it's going to do basically allow
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management to make edits in your scanner and it lists the six
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things in there such as your load time, your VPS, flat WSS
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and letter WSS, box holder letterings and flats postage.
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Do what was the oven customs? Postage stamp stock.
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Sale. Roll reach.
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Roll reach and and you you're just sitting there going what
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are what are the main items that you know, contribute to our
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account? See our load times, our flats
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and letters at WSS and our, you know, box holders that's in
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letters. So why are they going after this
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these particular items at this time?
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Why are they going after obscure things like the the postage do?
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I don't understand this because of the fact that we just
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discussed the the route optimization program, which is a
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money grab. And now five of the items on
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this test program are also money grant grab items for management
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to manipulate. Now allegedly we have to have a
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sign off sheet with management and the carrier's name was on
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there just like the DPM and LTM. How many times has that changed
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on your route? You weren't involved in it.
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How can, how can we have transparency or trust in the
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management program in regard with the actual information when
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they don't even know the program?
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None of them, I believe none of them even are aware of the
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ARCAM. Now we're rolling out a fourth
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program on top of the optimization program.
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We're going to have this test thing for who says the country.
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I, I don't understand this. I I really don't because all it
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is is a money grab to me. James.
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You are hitting the nail on the head and you've heard it from
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us. You've heard it from from the
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arbitration, you've heard it on Fed Up Management will only do
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things that benefit management. Our union, national elected
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officials know this. Some of them worked the steward
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system under great representation.
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There were great leaders in this union that fought for the craft,
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fought to tell carriers what was going on, fought to protect
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every penny the carriers made. And now we have elected
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representatives who rarely put out information except when it
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benefits them, when it benefits the Postal Service.
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First, we had directs come out. They fought a little bit for it,
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they fought a little bit for the craft on that, but literally it
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was put out without any proper oversight and transparency and
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management was supposed to be held to a standard of training
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of the carriers. That never happened.
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We were told only six scans, You only got to do 6 scans and then
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66% of routes lost money. And the only thing the union can
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say was overall carriers are now getting back closer to their
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evaluation times than ever before.
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Some carriers were getting off so early and still getting paid
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for hours they weren't working. Carriers lost money.
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That means management saved money.
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Now they bring out Rural Route Optimization, another program
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designed to cut money from carriers and save the post
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office money. Now we're going into editing
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activity scans and guess what? We're going to be held to our
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office times 22 minute load times.
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Oh, and beat the heat. Keep it moving.
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No stationary events. And now I've got a carrier on
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social media just today who is going to be on a Zoom meeting
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with national management about why they have so many door
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deliveries with parcels. Again, another money grab from
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the post office and where's our union and all this.
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It's basically it's just an inconvenience.
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It won't affect your evaluations to hell it won't.
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There's a reason why they want to do this.
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There's a reason why management is mapping without carriers,
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because their management is telling them you have to do this
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monthly. You have to do this monthly.
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So while you're out busting your butt in this heat, getting heat
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sickness, getting heat stroke, hurting yourself to try and make
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these new lowered evaluations, they're in their office editing
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your mapping, cutting your walking distances, your feet to
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the door, cutting your park point distances so that way you
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don't get as much payment for the mapping that you had.
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They're removing traffic control points, they're removing miles
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on your route, all without you knowing it.
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Just had a carrier contact me and tell me that they have one
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of their boxes that has been a no stat for over a decade is now
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showing up as active on her on her mapping that lowers her
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coverage factor. It's a money grab.
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And yet national elected officials sat on their hands for
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over a week after everybody else had this information to finally
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put something on say, oh hey, by the way, this is going on over
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in these two areas. It's nothing to worry about,
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nothing to see here folks keep it moving even though the
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fireworks store is exploding behind them.
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Why is it that every time we talk about something very
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important to carriers that nationals not talking about,
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they suddenly have to put something out?
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Can anyone explain that to me? Do you think you could Toasty?
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No, I, I can't. I know I certainly can't.
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Because what confuses me even more is that they're adding this
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program now or at least piloting it when we still to this day do
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not have interim route adjustments like we used to
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under the 4003. Where if you had enough enough
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additional boxes or enough additional mileage or enough
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additional dismounts and everything like that, you could
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move up an hour in between surveys or in between mail
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counts like the old 4003. And we still to this day, at
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least for me, don't have route cuts implemented across the
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nation. They're trying to do too many
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things at once. Focus on one thing, make sure
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it's right, make sure it's good to go, launch that and then
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good, move on to the next one. Make sure it's good to go, make
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sure it has no errors or bugs. Work them out, focus on that
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one, launch that one then and then move on to the next one and
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so forth. They're trying to do too many
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things at once. They're trying to fill up their
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plate and they're not going to be able to eat it all.
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Now let's get these overburdened routes non overburdened.
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Let's get let's get these route adjustments of these way
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overburdened routes done. Let's get all those taken care
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of. And then we can do a route
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optimization because when you're trying to do that on top of
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route cut, you're just yeah, it's too much going on.
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And now we're going to test these certain scans, the editing
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and then, well, well, that's just going to open it up to be
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able to edit all the scan your trips to the doors, your
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whatever. I'm sorry, I had three trips to
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the door with one delivery yesterday on my second trip.
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Because you know, I live in a resort area or, you know, not a
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say resort area, but a, a destination area of people that
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flock up north on the weekends and holidays.
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We have a lot of Airbnb and, and Verbo rentals in the area.
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Even though we have a major housing crisis, we have that.
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And then so you know, we've got these homeowner homeowners that
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are converting their lakefront properties and do Verbos and
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Airbnb's. So they're ordering the cornhole
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boards, game sets, they're ordering the ladder balls,
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they're ordering whatever in big heavy boxes.
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Yeah. You know, three trips to the
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door to deliver those three boxes because they were big.
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You know, I, what are they going to do when they start being, you
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know, who's to say that that's not going to be the next one
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that they'll be able to edit is your trips to the doors once
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they figure, oh, yeah, well, this is one.
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OK, so we can do this. And it's like we said Sunday
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night, you know, with the mapping you have people that
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haven't mapped with sat down and done their mapping since the
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initial mapping because management's falsified that you
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that what's to say that management isn't going to
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falsify editing your Rex scans? Yeah, you're supposed.
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Don't worry you there's there's the sign off on it, don't worry.
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Yeah, with no, with no two step verification, it was a like you
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log into light blue and you can get a code off of there to put
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into that. OK, maybe because it has that
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two step verification where you have to have your phone on you
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and they can't do it behind closed doors and just say, Oh
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yeah, the carrier was here here with me.
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I testify to that. And because they're going to
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lie, they're going to lie every single time.
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They did it for hip training last year and there's and then
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they do it they do it this year for mapping.
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They do it they're gonna do it for this too.
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I. Mean even if it required a, a, a
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specified pin code that you, you put in your own pin code
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attached to your EIN, because we all know that they have access
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to your EIN. So if each carrier was then able
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to put their own pin code that I could totally see.
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All right, yes, we did this adjustment.
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OK, carrier enters in their code privately taken care of.
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Something like that wouldn't be bad.
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I think they should have something like that for the
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mapping too, because like I said, there's a lot of mapping
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is a huge deal when it comes to your your evaluations.
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And we've got carriers. I mean, we still have carriers
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to this day that, you know, this last month when I had to do the
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mapping with the one carrier, I think she she was in a rush to
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get out the door to go to her second job.
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She just was like, yeah, OK, whatever.
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Yep, Yep. That, that that's right there.
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OK, I gotta go. Bye.
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She didn't care. Yeah.
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Let me point out this, James, hold on there.
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Let me point this out. In past years, we got
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information pretty quickly, usually by you know, phone
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calls, mails or texts and all that.
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But now we have social media that the national board has
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access. So why is there this this
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cumbersome machine taking over a week to get this information out
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to us? Now on top of everything that we
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have, Rex was supposed to be introduced in September and it
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got delayed. Then it was going to be January.
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February got delayed. It was supposed to be March.
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April got delayed. April, May, OK, finally went in.
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Now we have many mail survey disputes which people from the
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first one have not had resolved, the second one not resolved, the
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third one not resolved. Now we're coming out with our
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Cam OK this to mediate situations before they become
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grievances. If you didn't know, Rex, how
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much time do you think management put into our camp?
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Now we have the rule route optimization.
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You want to talk about the blind leading the blind?
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I mean, this is just a joke. And now we're going to befuddle
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you. We're going to try this test
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program in two different parts of the country and confuse even
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more. People have a say.
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Management couldn't run an outhouse if you spotted them a
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turd in a pint of pee. And you know what, folks?
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Ladies and gentlemen, our union are in the same classification
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as management. They couldn't run an outhouse
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either. This is just a colossal blunder
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on their part. And let me tell you this, they
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don't care. Go ahead, James.
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The interesting thing is, is not only have I heard from carriers
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that have never done mapping, not even the initial mapping,
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we've had one in our chat. You can say that they've never
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have somebody who's never touched the mapping program and
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carrier that has a got a print out of the last time they mapped
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was 613, but they haven't mapped since January.
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You know, that's falsification right there.
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Management is falsifying it. They have in the RMSS program,
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it tells them they have to do the mapping by this specific
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date and it gives them a percentage of the routes in that
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office that have or have not mapped.
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And to me, this is just another way for those managers who are
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falsifying documents to just turn around and falsify another
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one. And I'm going to use that word
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over and over because these are government documents.
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Even though they are electronic, they are government documents.
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And we're sitting here and we've been sounding the alarm.
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We've been sounding the alarm that we are not being duly
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represented against management's whims.
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Now on from ADA arbitration. Corey was talking about
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stationary events and how many hours of time carriers across
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the nation have spent in quote, UN quote, stationary events.
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And that could have been sorting to load their vehicle, you know,
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reload time that could have been coming back from break, you
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know, sitting down in the seat, taking the key out of your
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pocket, sticking it in the ignition, shutting your door,
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putting the handbrake off, straightening your wheel to
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move. But if you're one minute over
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your break, they're questioning you on it on the City side one
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minute. Because as Corey calculated out,
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at a $25 per hour average wage for everybody across the City
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side, it was a $90 million savings to go after each carrier
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for that one minute of stationary time on each event.
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Whether it be one minute, 30 minutes, an hour, they're going
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after them. I've been harassed for
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stationary events at my reloading points.
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I've seen the benchmarking spreadsheet that says this
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carrier has too many unscanned parcels, this carrier has too
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many trips to door. What do you think these managers
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who falsified documents are going to do when they have
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access to edit your scans? They're not going to come talk
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to you about the the number being read on their report.
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They're going to turn around, look at that report, go over to
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your scans, edit your scans to get themselves off that report.
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Because the only thing your local manager is concerned about
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is staying off their boss's radar because they're scared of
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their boss. Their boss is just as
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manipulative and narcissistic as the boss you have, or even worse
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and then his. He's scared of his boss.
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He doesn't want to be on a report with his boss because
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he's the same narcissistic controlling asshole that you
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have down below and it goes all the way up the chain.
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Just like that DRT guy out of Pennsylvania.
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If a carrier gets his throat ripped out by a pit bull, why
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should we care? Why should we care that our
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carriers are not surviving in this heat?
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Oh, they're taking stationary events for cooling breaks?
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Too bad. Keep it moving.
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Beat the heat. No stationary events.
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They don't care about you. This Union national office knew
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this was possible, knew this could happen, knew that
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management was most likely planning this.
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Everybody on this podcast here right now knew that if
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management got their grubby little hands to change these
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inputs, carrier evaluations would drop like a rock.
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Earlier in the chat, somebody had jokingly said, well, if
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they're going to do that, we might as well just only do the
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six scans. And that's literally what it's
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probably going to be, Those six scans and two of those scans
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will be edited. Your start load and end load
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will be edited. Well, under.
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The and. Under the Rex Q&A dated 915 of
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2023 question #110 Will management be able to change the
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data that I put into my scanner? It says no, not at this time.
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The only ability of local management to change any entries
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is to match the time keeping scans to the times written on
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the 4240 by the carrier. No other entries may be edited
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locally. However, if you find a local
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manager who has that ability, escalate that to the Department
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of Labor Relations at the NRLCA immediately.
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So not even a year ago, this is 10 months ago, they said no, and
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now it's, oh, we're going to test this out.
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But you notice if they said at this time.
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So they knew it was going to be a possibility in the future.
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And they had nothing ready for it because rural carriers have
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had it too good for too long. Carriers are working off the
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clock more now than they ever have just to beat the times of
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their evaluation and to beat the heat.
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Their offices that have moved their start times up, they're
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going in later. They're out in the heat longer
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because management can't schedule trucks, right?
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Can't say if your truck, your truck needs to be here at this
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time. So my carriers can have 80% of
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of the available mail up when they arrive.
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So that way they can get out there and actually literally
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beat the heat just by being efficient carriers on their
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route at the time that we schedule them to be there.
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James, how many carriers are working off the clock so that
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they stay under the evaluation so they don't get cut?
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That too. Yeah, because you know, there's
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there's the three hat categories, you know, in, in
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regards to being overburdened, it's, you know, severely
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overburdened and you're, you know, a certain amount of hours
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you're over evaluation or you need assistance.
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You know, my office alone that demonstrated that that aspect
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was thrown out the window because of the fact that of the
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three routes adjusted, either of the three were overburdened to
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the point where we were going over to our weekly evaluation
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and none of us got any type of assistance through the course of
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the week. So what is the, the criteria for
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relieving these overburdened routes?
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Because I'm sure there was. There's a lot more offices out
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there that had more than 70 hours on their routes and
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they're still sitting there five years after, you know, the
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Amazon really took effect on us. And don't forget, another reason
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why they're probably coming in early so that they can get done
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before their evaluation is because if you are consistently
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over your evaluation, management can force you to take DPS to the
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street. That's another aspect of it.
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They may be trying to case their DPS because that's the way
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they've done it for 2025 years. You know something the national
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board doesn't know how to run a route for 2025 years.
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This is just another shit show by the post office and the the
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National Board's complicit in it.
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They really are. Oh hey, they might as well just
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move their office down. Yeah, down the street and work
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in the same building as Lewis. So this just came out five
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minutes ago on the NRLCA Facebook page.
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The US Postal Service and the NRLCA have signed an MOU to
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rehire rural carrier Nuance as holiday assistant.
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Rural carriers, parks, arcs with an H These individuals, yeah,
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they're going to do that again between November 2nd through
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January 24th. Who's going to want to come back
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for $19.00 an hour? Yeah, you can't make a 30 year.
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Sorry, 20-30 years 38. A 30 year city carrier is going
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to come back work during the busiest time of the year for
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2038 after walking off the job and retiring at almost $50.00 an
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hour. Yeah, right.
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OK. That's yeah.
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You can't make this stuff up, you know, and it's it's crazy to
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think that we have national leadership at the Postal
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Service, the leaders of management that don't realize
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what's going on down here at the ground level.
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And they think they can just throw policies and procedures to
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make thing more things get done for less money than can be
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possible. And on top of that, they're
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doing it with a workforce that has been gutted because of the
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fact that carriers don't want to work in a hostile work
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environment, don't want to work for equal or less pay than other
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jobs in the area. And they don't want to spend
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1015 years waiting to get career benefits.
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And they don't want APTF position where they have to pay
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full union dues working two days a week.
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You know, I think this national board, I think this national
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board has a model that matches when I was actually working as a
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cab driver in Lansing when I was just just about 20 years old.
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And the motto of the cab company was if you work your 12 hour
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shift, feel the car up, pay the dues for the using the vehicle
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and all of applicable fees and you go home with nothing, you've
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done your job. If you go home with any money,
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you've done something wrong. So once you've worked your
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routes, paid your taxes, paid for the benefits that you get as
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as APTF, and then paid your full union dues to the NRLCA and you
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go home with nothing, you've done your job.
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But if you get some money out of that paycheck, you must have
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done something wrong. I can't wait for Reno.
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I know the feeling. I know the feeling.
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I mean, I'm, I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's listeners out
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there that can go on our Facebook group and post all the
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times we have talked about something and not even 2-3 days
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later, the national board is now posting about it.
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There's several times we've done that.
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Why is it that social media and this podcast are much more
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efficient and transparent than our secret national board with
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their secret communications with the Postal Service that slowly,
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slowly tear away at our wages, work conditions and benefits and
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we wonder. Why people are leaving?
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Because there's no trust. There's no transparency.
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Yeah. And there's no accountability.
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And that. Falls right into the retaining
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and hiring as well. And like I, you know, have said
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in the past when when management is treating people like dirt and
26:05
they're just done with it. And so they leave.
26:08
And I this is not just leave replacements, this is also many
26:11
regulars who are just fed up and like I'm done and they leave and
26:16
then, you know, they're talking. And especially if you have
26:19
management that's local to the community, word gets around.
26:23
Therefore, you know what positions don't get filled
26:25
because nobody wants to come work for that management.
26:29
I mean, my vice president of my county unit took early
26:34
retirement because of the management in her office.
26:37
She worked it out as long as she could till she got to the point
26:41
where she could take early retirement and she ran with it.
26:44
And as soon as that happened, she pulled her dues from the
26:47
union and said, I'm done with all this BS.
26:50
Didn't want to participate in the union anymore, didn't want
26:53
to deal with it at all. Think about that, Someone who
26:56
spent their life working for this craft, working for this
27:00
union. Yes, that that person was a very
27:03
active union member. I I know who you're talking
27:06
about. I I've met that person many
27:08
times and had a decent relationship with that person.
27:11
She was the kindest person to me at that post office when we were
27:14
shoehorned in there. Sweetheart, she really was.
27:17
Yeah, you know, and but this is what they've done and they're
27:23
talking about this contract is going to be one of those that
27:27
they're going to try and tout as the best deal they could come up
27:31
with with management. If not, not when you have
27:35
national officers working with management to undermine carriers
27:42
telling us that the Bell Curve tells us that it's more
27:46
accurate, a spreadsheet tells us it's more accurate.
27:50
Just like a spreadsheet tells management that carriers are
27:53
going over the number of inputs on their scanner.
27:56
Just like a spreadsheet tells management how many minutes you
28:01
spent stationary on your route. Just like a spreadsheet tells
28:05
management whether you have too many trips to door, have too
28:10
much load time, have too many stamp stock sales, everything
28:15
that management could edit with this little pilot are things
28:19
that have been red flagged by management for benchmarking.
28:24
But we got a grief. Benchmarking is what we've all
28:26
been told from the beginning. And it'll be settled with
28:30
management won't do it again. So wag of the finger, slap on
28:33
the hand when you need to pull something like what city has,
28:36
which is the no covert techniques.
28:38
That's a covert technique. You're not actually coming out
28:40
and observing me doing my job. Y'all go listen to Formada
28:44
Arbitrations last couple of episodes.
28:48
They're very good episodes, especially if they're coming at
28:52
you with only scanner data. What were you doing at this
28:55
point? My job?
28:56
What were you doing here? Working.
28:58
What were you doing here? It says you were at your house
29:01
for 30 minutes. Taking a dump.
29:04
I was using the facilities as required by law.
29:09
I am to be on the clock using the facilities.
29:12
I'm sorry that I had diarrhea that day.
29:15
Hey, you know. You know, everybody's systems
29:18
flow differently and you know, some days you have the days
29:22
where you're sitting there for a little bit longer.
29:24
And honestly, if those are the days I'm sitting there a little
29:26
bit longer and you live on your route or really, really close to
29:30
your route, like within a block, you know what?
29:32
I would rather use my own facilities.
29:35
With the good toilet paper. Exactly.
29:40
But that's not an authorized lunch spot.
29:42
Got approved by management. I didn't know I wasn't eating
29:47
lunch. I was using a restroom.
29:50
Getting rid of breakfast. And even even if it was your
29:54
lunch, you are off the clock for lunch, but you're authorized
29:58
lunch spot is McDonald's. I didn't want McDonald's that
30:00
day. You know, it's crazy to think
30:03
what this has divolved to is basically carriers constantly
30:09
worrying, constantly stressed out because management is
30:13
turning around and finding this that and the other thing to
30:15
harass carriers over. Carriers are wondering, is that
30:18
sub doing all the scans on the weekend when I'm on my scheduled
30:22
day off? What if I had to take a week off
30:25
or maybe six months for a medical procedure?
30:28
What is that sub doing to my route while I'm gone?
30:31
What does that? What does stress do the human
30:34
body? Even when you're not at work,
30:36
when you're stressing about it at home, because you're
30:38
constantly just thinking about it over and over and over.
30:43
We are being beat down by leadership, by management, being
30:48
told we have had it too good. It's OK.
30:51
It won't affect your evaluation until it does.
30:55
And then what is? What is our current national
30:58
board going to say when it does affect your evaluation?
31:02
Well, we're still good on times because on the bell curve people
31:06
are still below it. Because we know how to do our
31:09
jobs. Hey James, were people under
31:13
their evaluations before Rex? There were a lot of people that
31:17
weren't. But were there, were there
31:19
people under the evaluation, you know, before Rex?
31:22
Yes. OK, so how did that bell curve
31:25
different then now? Because the 66% of the people
31:29
who lost on their first round of mini mail survey, whether they
31:33
lost $1.00 or they lost $16,000, they lost money, correct?
31:37
Well, if I recall from SWAC, when we had the presentation by
31:43
President Don Mastin, he put up on there that for the first mini
31:48
mail survey, prior to the first mini mail survey, carriers were
31:52
almost 4 hours under evaluation every week.
31:56
So that's just under under an hour a day.
32:00
And then he put up the next slide, which was after the first
32:04
mini mail survey and carriers were under their evaluation by
32:08
one hour for the week, and he said that was a good thing.
32:12
It was the perk of the job to be able to get out there, do your
32:15
job and come back and still be paid for an hour or two each
32:19
day. That's the perk of the job.
32:21
If you do well, if you organize just right, you set everything
32:25
up just right. You helicopter, maybe that helps
32:28
you to just go up to the box, grab, go throw and go boom.
32:32
That was the perk of the job. That perks almost eroded away
32:36
completely to where it's just almost nothing now.
32:40
It's to the point where when I took the job, I wanted it
32:43
because of the schedule. I could drop off my kids at
32:45
school, go to work, finish my route, go back and pick them up
32:49
from school just in time. I can't do that anymore.
32:52
Yeah, and think about this, I'm going to use my own self for
32:55
this. The perk of my route.
32:57
I was a 42K prior to Rex and I would get my route done in
33:03
between 7 1/2 and 8 hours on average.
33:07
So I was under by 1/2 to an hour on average each day.
33:13
That does not. That does include Mondays where
33:16
I was over the evaluation and days where I had very little
33:19
mail in packages. First mini mail survey comes
33:22
out, I'm still a 42K. Still half an hour to an hour
33:26
under my evaluation and I don't work off the clock.
33:29
Next one comes out, I'm a 41K. Still doable, but now I'm 1/2 an
33:34
hour to 5 minutes under evaluation on average.
33:38
Next mini mail survey comes out, I'm a 40K.
33:41
I'm no longer under evaluation. Most of the time I am at or
33:46
above it. Now.
33:47
My mail volume according to the computer has dropped slightly,
33:53
but according to the volumes that I record daily, my volumes
33:58
have not changed. My package numbers have gone
34:02
down a little bit in the past few months, but that is normal
34:06
for this time of year and my package average in Rex is 15
34:12
packages under my normal average of packages.
34:16
I am losing money because of this system and every single
34:22
dispute involving the information that I have that
34:26
actually matches the data that it should be has been disputed.
34:30
No action taken. There are carriers out there
34:32
that are disputing things and getting no action taken.
34:36
And it's actually an accurate change that needs to happen.
34:39
And they're going, why should I even dispute it when management
34:42
and the union won't agree? It's actually wrong.
34:46
And in the chat, somebody just said to me, wouldn't it be nice
34:49
to see the data so you could figure out what is happening?
34:52
Yeah, it would be great to see what is happening, but just
34:55
trust them. No, I don't trust anybody that
34:57
that messes with my paycheck. I don't trust anybody who says
35:01
we've had it too good for too long.
35:03
And I don't trust anybody that says don't worry about it, it
35:07
won't affect your evaluation when everything they're messing
35:10
with effects my evaluation. Question people have to ask
35:14
themselves with this program, this pilot program, if it wasn't
35:19
going to wreak them substantial financial reparations in regards
35:25
to the cost savings, you think they're even doing it?
35:28
They just want to see what these two locations are going to
35:32
generate savings and then try to force it into the contract so
35:36
that they can save even more money that the look, The way
35:40
this whole thing is going right now, ladies and gentlemen,
35:42
they're trying to push us to hourly.
35:45
They're trying to micromanage us down to an hourly position, just
35:49
like the city carriers. And then when they get to a
35:53
certain point, they're going to introduce the pivots because you
35:56
don't have enough carriers. You don't have enough carriers.
35:59
OK, Your route's only 6 1/2 hours.
36:02
You get an hour and a half from each piece.
36:04
Hold on, I have to drive 20 minutes to get to the other one
36:08
and then another 20 minutes back?
36:10
There's 40 minutes on an hour and a half, so that means I can
36:13
only actually take 50 minutes of mail.
36:16
This is how stupid it goes in my office is that they will
36:20
actually assign a piece to a city carrier anywhere from 20 to
36:25
40 minutes away from the piece they gave them instead of
36:28
aligning it with route in that area.
36:30
Because they don't like the person.
36:32
Just because of the new person. Just because it's a person.
36:35
They can intimidate into doing it whatever reason they choose
36:38
to, but that's what they do. And for the.
36:41
Example because they've never big barriers.
36:44
Exactly. And the example of that, you
36:46
know, with that possibility coming, is this MOU that keeps
36:51
getting renewed about voluntary. It's going to get to the point
36:56
to where it's not going to be voluntary anymore.
36:59
It's going to become volunt old. Yep, and you're not going to.
37:02
And if you go hourly, you're not going to get paid overtime to do
37:05
it. And I'm going to say that if we
37:09
are elected to the national board, that is one of the first
37:12
things that's going to go the abuse to carriers because of
37:17
Management Black of management skills is not the union's
37:23
problem. It is not the crafts problem
37:27
when you agree Toasty. I would absolutely agree.
37:31
They need to start taking responsibility.
37:32
They need to start training their managers.
37:34
They need to start investing in better management.
37:38
They need to find ways. I mean, they're spending the
37:41
money on this pilot program. I mean, they're, they're
37:43
spending all this money doing all this research and all this
37:46
stuff. Well, why don't you train your
37:49
management on the contracts, on the ARCAM, on the J Cam, on the
37:53
whatever the clerks have so they stop violating things, run
37:57
smoother, and then you won't have to worry about, you know,
38:00
OK, well, is this the most efficient?
38:02
OK, well, we'll eventually get to that, but right now it's
38:04
working fine. But at this time, no, you need
38:08
to work on y'all first. We can do our jobs, you need to
38:12
learn how to do yours. And do.
38:14
They failed the tip go. Ahead.
38:16
They failed to train their management in the Rex program
38:20
and just came out with district. Just do the six scans that that
38:24
was that was eating into our skulls.
38:26
Oh, you just need to do the six scans.
38:28
That was the six scans to keep them off the radar for district.
38:31
Then they didn't care about anything else after that.
38:34
And like I said, for five years, I did the training in my office
38:38
because even though we had an ADR in the office, he wasn't
38:41
around that much. And therefore, I stepped up and
38:45
took it on myself to educate the people because this is your
38:49
paycheck. And and God, I, I, I don't know
38:53
how many times you have to beat it in somebody's head to make
38:55
them understand this is your paycheck.
38:58
Send it, fight for it. And like Kristen said, somebody
39:01
had to go to DPM and LTM directly because they had to get
39:06
out of the office. Oh, well, yeah, that was good.
39:08
Oh, yeah, I, I got to go. You kidding me?
39:10
You're not playing with my money, You're not playing with
39:12
my wife, and you're not playing with my children.
39:14
You know, but my money, Geez, I'm not not in bill maze time.
39:20
No, in the same carrier in in the same carrier who didn't have
39:27
the time. And I do believe that Carrie may
39:30
have even clocked out before they even came to the computer
39:33
with me. Even though I keep saying, and
39:35
if shift duty stay on the clock, don't clock out till you're
39:39
done. They don't want you know, but
39:41
this is the, you know, the same carrier who will complain
39:44
because her because their route is dropped again and well, and
39:49
then complaints because the union can't help get their route
39:53
back up. That's not the union's
39:56
responsibility. You as a carrier need to do what
40:00
you're supposed to do and those responsibilities, your scans.
40:04
And I mean, and I know there's carriers out there that you
40:08
know. Don't do that stuff.
40:11
I mean, if there's at least one, maybe more in my office, I know
40:15
there's plenty of them out there who just are so have been around
40:20
for a while and are so set in their ways.
40:22
Why do I need to do this? And they don't do that and they
40:27
don't understand the importance of that.
40:30
And that's where we as Co workers and members of the union
40:36
that have educated ourselves and have tried to help need to
40:41
really try and explain to them in terms that they're going to
40:44
understand why it's important that you sit down and do your
40:49
mapping thoroughly on end of shift duties.
40:53
Why you when you make 3 trips to the door with the oversized
40:57
packages that you enter in trip to door 3?
41:01
Why you map your, you know your DPM parts properly and when you
41:07
run through your LTM pay attention because if something
41:13
is not pinpointed correctly like boxes, it'll show you in that
41:17
line of travel. It looks like you're turning
41:18
around or reversing and then you know, I get it, you want to
41:22
leave, but you need to make sure that stuff is correct.
41:26
I mean, I had to go through it with my, I literally would sit
41:29
there and watch my full LTM just because I knew I was still
41:34
making corrections from the former carrier and literally go
41:38
through it and, and, and pause it where I knew I had boxes that
41:42
needed to go back and, you know, realigned them so they were
41:46
proper alignment in the, in the travel and write them down and
41:50
then go back into the DPM again and re edit it and then run it
41:54
through again. Yes, it takes time.
41:57
And when you have management that doesn't want to sit there
42:00
and with the time with the carrier that's an issue or you
42:04
have management that just hasn't done it at all with the carrier,
42:07
they took it upon themselves. They don't know the routes and
42:10
now they want to try to edit scans that in certain instances
42:16
I can see where being able to edit scans would be a good or
42:21
something that was hit by a mistake or didn't get entered by
42:25
mistake. I can understand that.
42:29
But without having some sort of way to make sure that the
42:36
carrier not just a sign off sheet, that the carrier was
42:40
present and know that these needed to be adjusted, there's
42:44
no fail safes in place. There has to be some sort of
42:47
fail safe in place other than a sign off sheet because if you
42:51
know management they'll just write down your initials that
42:53
you signed off on it. Or even worse, or even worse,
42:57
like the RO, they can turn around and input your name on
43:02
the final page of it and say that you were there and present
43:07
when they changed your route mapping and you aren't even
43:10
there. They changed your route for you
43:13
and you didn't even have a chance to give them safety
43:16
inputs like making a left turn across the highway from the far
43:21
right lane to go down. This other Rd. will get me
43:24
broadsided by two semi trucks and a pickup.
43:27
Well. Like I said, I have two U turns
43:29
on US 23, one of which is A5 lane highway.
43:34
And luckily there is a road there right after that last box
43:38
that I make a turn into that road and turn around.
43:41
And literally I will if I don't nail it just right with my curve
43:46
in. And it's luckily it's not a a
43:48
highly traveled side Rd. so I can back in when needed and
43:53
making sure it's clear. So then I can come out and then
43:56
wait for traffic so I can see from both directions.
43:59
And my other one on the South end is, you know, that's just
44:03
two lane at that spot, but I've got, you know, it's 55 miles an
44:07
hour on a with a curve right there.
44:10
I treat that like a left hand turn under that side road to
44:14
make my U-turn to come back up heading north.
44:17
You know, that to me is a left hand turn and then I just turn
44:20
it around on the little side road.
44:22
Again, that's not heavily traveled.
44:24
Sometimes there is traffic coming out while I turn into
44:27
that road. There's a little section that
44:29
you can pull off very easily and I'll pull off and wait for those
44:32
other traffic and then turn around and come back out to the
44:35
main road. You know, there's this is like
44:36
that where it can't be helped. But when you have routes that
44:40
are ran that are currently doing it the safest way, and if these
44:45
optimizations are making it not safe anymore, then yes, that
44:49
needs to be addressed. And some carriers, their first
44:52
instance of it will be here's your new route.
44:55
This is what you're driving now. We talked about it on Sunday's
44:59
episode, How to protect yourself with that, management has to
45:02
drive that routing. Make sure you're there with
45:04
them. Of course, you're not going to
45:06
be paid for that, but that is protecting your money.
45:11
I understand you're off the clock doing that, but that is
45:15
the only off the clockwork that I would do to protect my money.
45:19
I would do anything to protect my money if I could.
45:22
That's legal. It's almost unfathomable to many
45:27
people out there in Society of what links a corporation will go
45:33
to to cheap out on its labor, but yet everybody works for some
45:38
corporation that may do that. Look at your automakers who
45:42
cheap out by sending production overseas.
45:45
Look at your closing manufacturers that cheap out by
45:48
sending it to Taiwan and China, losing jobs here, Your steel
45:52
manufacturers who sent it over to Russia.
45:55
And don't forget your clothing stores like Timu.
45:59
Cheap stuff breaks easily. Of course, they do help the
46:02
Postal Service, they ship through us, but it's cheap
46:05
products that shut down quality products stores.
46:08
Your carriers are the quality product and you're cheaping out
46:12
on them. Montgomery Wards, Sears.
46:15
Kmart. Those are three names that
46:17
cheaped out on the product. And where are they now?
46:20
Maybe that's the plan. An empty building on my route.
46:23
That's where Kmart's at. Maybe that's the plan here.
46:26
Maybe it's to cheap out, make it untenable to maintain the Postal
46:31
Service because there's not enough people to actually make
46:34
it happen. And then they sell off all the
46:36
SND CS and the PND CS to somebody like UPS or FedEx or
46:42
Amazon and replace us all with a private company.
46:45
And then the only thing left is the mail side of it.
46:48
And that'll be shut down because it's too costly to deliver just
46:53
letters and flats when you could have turned around and charged
46:56
Amazon the standard rate for parcel delivery and actually
47:00
turned a profit. But no, let's turn the profit by
47:03
cutting people's pay. Hold on.
47:06
If we charged Amazon the standard rate for the parcels,
47:10
do you think that Amazon would have grown exponentially quick
47:15
as they did without us? Nope.
47:18
I think honestly, it would have been a slower grow, but they
47:23
probably also wouldn't have it probably also wouldn't have as
47:26
many crappy companies on there that they do, you know, all
47:29
those weird letter combination name companies out there that
47:33
they have on that site now instead of legitimate companies
47:36
that they used to. Yeah.
47:37
The third parties, yeah. Yeah, but back to what we were
47:42
talking about, they are trying to save a dime off the carriers
47:48
because they know that our current national board will not
47:53
protect us from them. Just like the City side, current
47:58
national board won't protect them 'cause it's an
48:01
inconvenience it. Doesn't this leads this leads
48:05
back James to people saying, oh, well, Bill's just an angry man.
48:10
Well, no, this, this, this is my passion.
48:13
OK, Let me tell you, program on top of program on top of program
48:17
on top of program. And you still haven't qualified
48:21
management in regards to their training for Rex.
48:26
They still don't comprehend how that's supposed to work.
48:30
There's nobody out there who's going to give you an accurate
48:33
description of what an unscanned parcel is.
48:35
There's people out there always questioning how many dismounts
48:39
did it have to go to the door, Just like we all have carriers
48:42
cheating by, you know, taking everything to the door, even if
48:45
it's a pill bottle. OK.
48:47
But the thing of it is that, folks, why aren't you angry
48:51
about this? Why aren't you angry about them
48:54
stealing from you? Aren't you angry about
48:56
management treating you like shit in a way?
48:59
The Subs trying to steal out of you out of your damn paycheck?
49:03
What a little anger. Actually.
49:06
Good for you because once you express it and you get it off
49:09
your chest, feel a whole lot better.
49:12
I'm driven by the passion to help save this union and the
49:17
craft members from the current leadership who doesn't give a
49:22
rat's ass about us all. And if you don't believe me,
49:26
just look at all the MO us they signed.
49:29
Look at the paltry contracts we've, you know, signed and left
49:32
couple years. Look, look at the Louis montage
49:36
that Don did when he was announcing about the contract
49:39
negotiation. Oh, how me and Louis and Louis
49:43
this and Louis that. I mean, you know, if you're
49:45
going to have a love fest for the man, please don't put it on
49:48
our website. It's gross.
49:50
Probably get a letter about that one.
49:54
Yeah, I don't know. I just, I, I, I'm just kind of
49:59
over like when we started off on and this has been going on for,
50:04
well, a year honestly, where we put something out that has been
50:09
brought to light that the post office is doing or trying to do.
50:16
And we bring the topic up because we have heard crickets.
50:20
And then we bring it to light and then the response comes out.
50:25
Well, think about this, Kristen. They tried to silence us first.
50:31
They did. They tried to shut us down.
50:34
Now, when that failed, now they're listening to us.
50:39
And we know they are because they're doing things after we
50:42
talk about them, not before. Not being proactive, they're
50:46
being reactive. But the problem is they're not
50:50
being reactive to management. They're being reactive to a
50:54
podcast, because that podcast is helping more craft members than
51:01
the current board ever thought they could or ever wanted to.
51:06
Instead of helping us, instead of helping the craft, everything
51:11
has been about what's a benefit to the Postal Service and what
51:16
table scraps can we get for the craft.
51:19
And I, I, I'm so over the well, we hear about it.
51:23
We, we, we, we talk to, we, we, we talk to people.
51:27
People talk to us. We hear about it.
51:29
You know, we talk to people, people talk to us.
51:32
We hear about things too. But unless you're fully
51:36
experiencing something similar, you're not going to fully
51:40
understand what people are going through.
51:44
They don't know about the pain of losing $1000 a month in pay.
51:47
They don't know about the pain of figuring out how to work
51:51
childcare because you lost your days off.
51:53
They don't know the pain. They haven't known the pain for
51:56
years. I, I, we had, we had a, we had
52:00
an RCA who lost her daycare because of the hours that she
52:06
was working and basically was forced to quit because she no
52:12
longer had childcare. And she was a darn good RCA.
52:18
I mean, she picked up routes quickly, she was accurate, she
52:22
was efficient, she, she was good.
52:25
And we still miss her to this day, but because of, well,
52:29
you're back, I need you to go do this.
52:30
I need you to go to that. And you know how daycares are,
52:33
They have a set time to where you have to pick your kids up or
52:37
they charge you extra or they say, Nope, sorry, can't do this
52:40
anymore because you're not here by pickup time.
52:43
And that's basically what happened.
52:45
And basically, you know that that's another reason why we
52:48
can't keep some of these Rcas, even regular carriers who have
52:52
young children. Still, daycare is an issue,
52:55
especially when you are working over burden routes and you're
52:58
working out over evaluations or your start times get get bumped
53:04
up to where now you're coming in later, so you're going to be out
53:08
later. That affects people's home lives
53:12
as well. And that's just one other factor
53:14
of why people are leaving you. Know it's another factor in what
53:18
people can't, you know, participate too, because of
53:22
daycare, because of soccer, because of softball and all
53:25
that, because they're involved in their children's lives.
53:28
That's why, you know, most of the people you see at the
53:31
conventions or conferences are the older people because they
53:36
now have the time they can allocate, you know, meetings.
53:42
But when you're younger and you're raising a family who
53:45
don't have time to sleep, let alone anything else?
53:49
And the amount of single parents that we have out there within
53:52
the craft, I I was one, I was, you know, I I've been there with
53:57
younger kids as a single mom trying to make it work.
54:00
Yeah, I had an older son. But when he's away in the
54:03
military and I still have younger ones at home, you know,
54:06
it, it, it, it was not fun. I mean, I, I can relate on all
54:11
those levels. It's, it's just it, I don't
54:14
know. I just don't have words for a
54:16
lot of it anymore. We're almost turned off on a
54:18
tension. We're almost putting into angry
54:21
Bill over all of this, you know, and it took the time to actually
54:27
understand why that is. And I actually had a long
54:31
conversation with an over 20 year veteran rural carrier.
54:36
And this carrier said, you know, when I started out, this was a
54:39
great job. I had good pay, I had EMA to
54:43
take care of my car. And they did the same thing, put
54:46
the EMA aside for vehicle maintenance and gas and stuff
54:49
like that. But over the last 15 years, it
54:54
has slowly but surely eroded into management's favor.
55:01
Now I'm not, I'm not sure about you guys, but I do believe, but
55:06
there are quite a few people on the national board that have 15
55:11
plus years of experience being national board members or.
55:16
Full time union employees in general.
55:19
Or full time union employees in general.
55:22
So if it's been going on for over 15 years and it probably
55:26
started longer before that, my question is, why is it that this
55:33
union hasn't solved the problem? The problem is apathy because of
55:39
how slowly it came in. This little cancer slowly came
55:45
into the union and slowly eroded away our wages, our benefits,
55:51
and our working conditions, slowly destroying what it meant
55:56
to be a proud rural carrier. It's been a long time, folks.
56:02
I mean long time, long gone. Long gone are the days of the
56:06
wait list and people lined up to take the test and and wait to
56:11
hopefully something pops up. I mean, even when even as you
56:16
know, 7-8 years ago I got oh, how did you get in there?
56:20
Now you can't find people to even get a day off.
56:24
And then when you have really poor management and management
56:28
has a is known throughout other local managements to be bad
56:33
management, they won't even bother to send Rcas up to help
56:37
and they'll fly out, tell their Rcas you don't want to go there,
56:40
their management's bad, even though that manager ain't much
56:42
better and you can't keep. Toasties, throw your $0.20 in
56:47
there. Come on, I.
56:48
Mean I'm too quiet. I've been here 8 years and yeah,
56:51
I've seen, I've seen the absolute change that's happened
56:54
between going from mail to packages.
56:57
Now, you know, no one's going to want to come break their backs
57:01
carrying Kitty litter like I did today to the door for $20.00 an
57:05
hour there. There's no more incentive
57:08
anymore. There's no more allure to
57:11
working at the post office. Everyone hears about how, you
57:14
know, you know, oh, you know, is that a good job?
57:16
Well, if you get a good office and then, you know, then you're
57:20
just rolling the dice hoping that you can get a good office.
57:23
If you get a bad office, well, you know, you spent all that
57:26
time waiting and, you know, doing your fingerprints and
57:29
doing everything else and then you get in, oh, I have a bad
57:32
office now I'm just going to leave.
57:34
You know, we're, we're now going to be fully staffed at the rate
57:37
that we're going when it comes to management making all these
57:40
changes, putting all this into implementation without testing
57:45
it first, without working out all the bugs 1st.
57:49
And then they add on top of that, you know, yelling and
57:52
screaming and threatening and discipline and IIS and all, you
57:56
know, even people saying, and I guess in certain districts, they
57:59
do court. Like, it makes no sense where
58:03
we're going right now. You can have all these great
58:05
plans on paper, but your execution is absolutely lacking
58:09
post office. And we're now getting protected
58:11
by our union. Our union is lagging behind with
58:15
an outdated website, outdated modes of learning, Outdated.
58:20
Sorry, but a lot of people on the board, yeah, it's time for
58:24
fresh. It's time for something new.
58:25
It's time to stop doing the same thing we've always done because
58:29
guess what? We're going to keep getting the
58:30
same results we've always got. Dude, what's that definition of?
58:36
We'll let, we'll let the listener, we'll let the listener
58:39
decide what the answer is to that that question.
58:44
I I I think some asshole brought that up in a National
58:47
Convention, didn't he? Yeah, Yes, I did.
58:53
Yes, I did. All right, guys.
58:55
I think it's about time for final thoughts on this.
58:58
I think y'all have just wandered, wandered off the
59:01
original line of thought here it was.
59:06
But but it was it was actually, it was refreshing to hear you
59:09
all kind of, you know, touch out your anger.
59:13
Well. It's not just Bill.
59:16
So I guess, I guess we're going to have to do some route
59:19
optimization before we come to next Sunday's episode because we
59:25
got so far off the path. Oh God.
59:30
So what's your final? Thoughts, angry person.
59:32
My final thoughts. God help us if we don't get a
59:36
change this year at the national board, at the national board
59:40
level. God help you.
59:42
I mean, this is a shitstorm for a decade now.
59:47
I mean, it was bad before, but it's just been piling on and
59:51
piling on. Like I said, to me, this is
59:55
another money grabbed by the post office.
59:57
And it's just another little linchpin that they're working in
1:00:02
until they make us hourly, the city carriers and then they turn
1:00:06
around and put your pivots on there.
1:00:08
And let me tell you something. I'm I'll, I'll guarantee you,
1:00:14
you'll see mass evacuations from this craft if that ever happens.
1:00:20
So God bless you all. Be safe out there in the heat.
1:00:23
It's still still with us. Hydrate, drive safely, take as
1:00:27
many breaks as you want. They ask you why you're
1:00:30
stationary. I was following your your hip
1:00:33
recommendations of cooling down and that's it.
1:00:36
I mean, you know they can't argue safety on that.
1:00:39
Be safe, be professional, be efficient and make sure you make
1:00:43
that most important delivery yourself home to your loved
1:00:46
ones. Take Care now.
1:00:49
Just like with everything else that the post Office has been
1:00:51
rolling out the past few years, may sound great on paper, but in
1:00:56
execution, it's going to be absolutely lacking.
1:00:58
It's not going to go well. You're going to have these
1:01:01
dishonest managers protect yourself.
1:01:04
Always ask for the paperwork. Always ask for the last date of
1:01:07
changes when it comes to your mapping, when it comes to if
1:01:10
this rolls out, the resequencing, the changing of
1:01:15
scans and everything. Always make a paper trail.
1:01:18
That's the only way you're going to be able to cover yourself.
1:01:20
And you know, well, let's, let's hope for the best that we can
1:01:23
make the changes we need to next month so that we can actually
1:01:26
have a union that will do something about it and protect
1:01:29
the entire craft. It doesn't matter of your union
1:01:32
or not. We want to protect everyone
1:01:34
because this is our craft. This is our job, this is our
1:01:37
family. You know, when we got into this
1:01:40
podcast, it was all about getting information out to the
1:01:44
craft because we thought especially the originals that
1:01:49
started this podcast thought our craft needed this information.
1:01:54
And it comes true every single week we do this.
1:01:59
Every single week there is something new coming out,
1:02:02
whether it be for management or from the union or it's issues
1:02:06
that carriers are having throughout the week that they
1:02:09
come to us with. There is always something to
1:02:11
talk about because you can't make this stuff up.
1:02:15
It is all reality and this is better than the scripted reality
1:02:19
programs you see on TV because you can actually benefit from
1:02:23
it. You can actually make a
1:02:25
difference in your life with the information that is given out
1:02:29
because your money is the most important thing to you about
1:02:34
this career. What you make from this career
1:02:37
is important to you, and having great management helps with
1:02:41
that. And we don't have that.
1:02:44
We have management that undermines carriers, management
1:02:47
that lies about carriers. They'd rather climb a tree to
1:02:50
lie than stand on the ground to tell the truth.
1:02:52
And then you have union leadership, union elected
1:02:56
representatives who should be fighting for this craft, who
1:03:00
should be standing up for your rights as carriers, standing up
1:03:06
for your paycheck, turning around and basically saying
1:03:11
you've had it too good for too long and these things are just
1:03:14
an inconvenience. Like the city carriers leader
1:03:17
said, there's their elected representative said.
1:03:20
Why is it taking a podcast of rural carriers who had no
1:03:26
association with the national board other than at the time,
1:03:30
some of them being elected local stewards who are then
1:03:34
subsequently decertified for giving carriers information they
1:03:39
needed? Why is it taking them putting
1:03:41
this stuff out there to actually get the national board to
1:03:46
actually do anything for this craft of a meaningful sense?
1:03:52
And even then, the meaningful sense is, well, it won't affect
1:03:55
your evaluations yet. Remember, there will be a time
1:04:00
for change and that time is coming up.
1:04:03
And I hope and pray that those who are at the top are ready for
1:04:08
that change. Because it's a common, like a
1:04:10
freight train. Because at the end of the day,
1:04:13
when this craft stands up, we stand together and say that
1:04:18
we're all in this together. Thank you guys.
1:04:21
This is always, our midweek's always turn into doozies, don't
1:04:24
they? But, you know, that's why we
1:04:29
throw them out there once in a while because sometimes things
1:04:31
pop up and we just have to get stuff off the chest.
1:04:34
Yeah, I, you know, I understand. It's just two areas that are
1:04:38
doing this pilot. See how it works, if it's going
1:04:41
to work. But you know what?
1:04:43
To me, that's just opening that door to more things down the
1:04:47
road that could adversely affect carriers directly.
1:04:52
And I'm not comfortable with that as I'm sure many others are
1:04:56
not. And I want to fight against that
1:05:00
because of the fact that, you know, this is all of our
1:05:03
livelihoods. And like, you know, we've, I've
1:05:06
stated before, you know, running for national board and if
1:05:10
elected, it to me is not a career move.
1:05:13
That's not a retirement plan for me.
1:05:16
For me, that is a way to get up there, to step up, to be able to
1:05:20
help everybody in the craft to get where this craft should be
1:05:24
and needs to be and set that pavement for that next
1:05:28
generation that's going to be coming up and wanting to be in
1:05:31
those elected spots to help continue the momentum forward.
1:05:35
And you know what, you know, this is our one and only
1:05:38
platform that we have to be able to reach out to more than just
1:05:42
our local people, more than just our regional people, and more
1:05:48
than just at National Convention on nomination and caucus.
1:05:53
No, that, yes, we really care. Yes, we are working on the
1:05:57
ground floor alongside every single one of us.
1:06:00
Yes, many of us, several of us are going through the BS that
1:06:05
many of you are going through. And you know, and we're here for
1:06:09
everybody. We're not doing this for
1:06:11
ourselves. We're doing this for the craft
1:06:13
on that dope. We're going to wrap this up
1:06:15
tonight. The guys will be back Sunday.
1:06:18
And everybody stay safe out there, stay hydrated, do what
1:06:22
you got to do to be safe in the heat to get home to your loved
1:06:26
ones. And remember all together, we
1:06:29
all together can be this change. And so then we're signing off
1:06:34
for tonight. Have a good week everybody.