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457: Group therapy, mommy issues, and space mines! Riker takes on the haters. Trek hits Waze. · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Tracks, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most
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  Speaker 2: unpredictable Star Trek podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Dane Lombardo.
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  Speaker 2: He him white head, omele with me as always, Daniel Rayes.
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  Speaker 2: A hold on, there's only just the two of us,
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  Speaker 2: just only two boxes, just the two of us.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, we finally escaped Scott's pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Ye're Scott. We're finally Scotless.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, Scott's feeling a little He's got the phaige today.
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  Speaker 3: It's right, he's got the phige escaped.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's I checked. He's out looking for organs right now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so that he needs such a scott thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: He needs a spleen. So if anyone's got a spare
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  Speaker 2: spleen line around, send it Scott's way.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be human either, whatever, no, whatever, whatever, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what's up, homie?
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  Speaker 3: How you feel?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Uh better? I I got a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: cold post surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I hear that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But the surgery itself went very well better than they expected,
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  Speaker 4: so that's great.
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  Speaker 3: I feel really good.
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  Speaker 4: On that end of it. It's crazy how I can
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  Speaker 4: notice the difference. So U But yeah, I thank you
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  Speaker 4: everyone who who asked about that and was concerned. I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing really, really good. The only thing was that I
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  Speaker 4: just I woke up with a cold from.
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  Speaker 2: From the awesome getting sick at the hospital. Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I will say this.
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  Speaker 4: I did learn why there's a fentanyl problem because they
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  Speaker 4: gave me fentanyl in the back when when.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the surgery. Yeah that that stuff makes
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  Speaker 3: you feel good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah, you know it works.
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  Speaker 3: It works.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it works for sure. But yeah, I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: to be out. I'm glad to be amongst the living.
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  Speaker 2: So good. Yeah good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how about you? How was your week?
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  Speaker 2: That was my week? What was? They all blend together.
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  Speaker 3: I know, right, it's all like the same. We go
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  Speaker 3: to work, they all.
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  Speaker 2: Blend together when I need to do this. So, like
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  Speaker 2: three years ago, I bought my daughter a dollhouse Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: like a kit Yeah, and it's been sitting under her
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  Speaker 2: bed for for three years. So last last week I
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  Speaker 2: started than that. So I work on that a couple
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  Speaker 2: hours a night. So that was good. Uh, Thursday night,
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  Speaker 2: I drove three hours to Connecticut to buy someone's toy collection.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so that was nice. So I've been I
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  Speaker 2: spent about three days sorting that. I dingan all the
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  Speaker 2: pieces in that. So spent a whole bunch of money.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't made anything yet because I spent so much time
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  Speaker 2: sorting it.
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  Speaker 3: What kind of stuff is in it?
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars, Star Wars g I Joe's from the eighties,
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  Speaker 2: but also some g I Joe's from the sixties, which
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  Speaker 2: are nice. So the big guys, Yeah, they're they're harder
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  Speaker 2: and harder to come by. Okay, so good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Yeah, And I think I watched Star Trek
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  Speaker 2: in there somewhere this week. I did. I watched it.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it Thursday. I did not rewind watch it today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I watched it Thursday like I normally, du did not
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  Speaker 2: rewatch it. I'm gonna be honest, You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: refresh my memory.
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  Speaker 4: I have notes, all right, Good, because I had questions
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  Speaker 4: and complaints.
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  Speaker 2: Good, all right? Yeah, you know I was I was afraid,
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  Speaker 2: like I didn't prepare. You know, I don't want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sixty two minutes of dead air. But if you've got notes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm real good at reacting to other people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, I'm sure you'll be happy with the
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  Speaker 3: notes I have. All right, we'll be good good.
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  Speaker 4: And then we do also have our Star Trek news,
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  Speaker 4: so I guess we should just get into that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Star Trek news. What's up with the Mount? Anything
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  Speaker 2: going on with the Mount?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the merger continues.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're trying to buy Warner Brothers also, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so that's all just kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of moving along right now or not. There's nothing major
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  Speaker 3: with it yet.
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  Speaker 4: But our first news story comes to us from trekmovie
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  Speaker 4: dot com and Riiker himself. Jonathan Fraakes is talking a
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  Speaker 4: little bit about directing the latest episode of Star Trek
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  Speaker 4: Starfleet Academy. If you didn't know, he directed episode nine,
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  Speaker 4: three hundredth Night, the penultimate episode. He's not doing the finale,
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  Speaker 4: but he did this ninth episode. It was pretty neat
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  Speaker 4: to have him talk about it. He said in the
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  Speaker 4: interview that typically a director will do two episodes, but
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  Speaker 4: he's only doing the ninth one and someone else is
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  Speaker 4: going to do the finale instead. He really enjoyed working
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  Speaker 4: on the series. This might be his last Star Trek
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  Speaker 4: episode directing doesn't look like he's back for season two.
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  Speaker 4: So and officially no new star Trek is in production,
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  Speaker 4: first time in ten years.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of hit the internet last week, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: He does say in the interview though he is shooting
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  Speaker 4: what is it like the New Big Bang Uh?
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  Speaker 3: A spin off show someone saves the Universe?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's I can't remember Stewart. Stewart, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the comic the guy who owned the comic book store.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So this reminds me of like they just
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  Speaker 2: gathered up all the all the like third tier characters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: from that show. You just push them into a room
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, do funny stuff and we're gonna make
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  Speaker 2: it a show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like people keep watching these, you know, make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So so okay, so he was just talking about that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, good times for him.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 4: Our next new story comes to us from are you
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  Speaker 4: familiar with the app called Ways?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So do you use it at all?
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  Speaker 2: Or I use Google Maps at drive? But Google bought
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  Speaker 2: Ways a few years ago, so all of the Ways
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  Speaker 2: data is incorporated into Google Maps. Now, okay, so I kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of use Ways, Yeah, kind of Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, apparently in the standalone app ways, you can now
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  Speaker 4: get Robert Riccardo to give you voice directions to places.
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  Speaker 4: So if you go into the settings, there's a Star
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  Speaker 4: Trek banner, you can add Robert Ricardo's voice and the
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  Speaker 4: doctor can tell you turn right, turn left, you overshot it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, recalibrating. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was fun. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: people like that, So there you go. I'm kind of
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  Speaker 4: just kind of going through these. Our next news story
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  Speaker 4: comes from from text crunch dot com and I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you know this, but William Shatner wants you
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  Speaker 4: to know that X is gonna give it to you
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  Speaker 4: because William Shatner is helping X formerly Twitter launch their
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  Speaker 4: new X Money payments. So this is basically their version
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  Speaker 4: of like a cash app or a Venmo or a
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  Speaker 4: PayPal that you can do financial transactions through X Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was just thinking we need another one of those.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I I do a lot of I do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of online yeah, sales. Yeah, And it used to
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  Speaker 2: be like PayPal was the standard, you know, and more
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  Speaker 2: and more people are like, oh do you have do
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  Speaker 2: you have zel? Do you have cash app? Do you
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  Speaker 2: have Venmo? Do you have Apple Pay? It's like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I don't because who else got time for all that?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So you know, if you don't already trust the person
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  Speaker 4: that you're communicating with on Twitter that they're a real person,
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  Speaker 4: now you can give them real money.
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  Speaker 3: So great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess they're launching it in an interesting way.
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  Speaker 4: William Shatner has got a charity for for our our veterans,
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  Speaker 4: and so if you donate to that charity, then you
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  Speaker 4: might potentially get an invite into x money because right
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  Speaker 4: now it's just in data, not everyone has access to it.
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  Speaker 4: So that's how they're getting Shatner to help launch the
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  Speaker 4: new service. So so there you go. So if you're
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  Speaker 4: interested in that, yeah, cool. Yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 2: You can help Captain Kirk launch his cashless society. Got right.
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  Speaker 4: Our last news story because Scott's not here and he
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  Speaker 4: can't stop me. So we're gonna a fourth story comes
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  Speaker 4: to a Hollywood reporter, and I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people are very happy to hear about this news. I know, Dan,
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  Speaker 4: you were seth McFarland teases new life into the Orville.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, season four is written.
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  Speaker 4: So so does so let it be done, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but my uh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If remember my reaction to this article was yay the
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  Speaker 2: return of Star Trek.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yeah, So we don't have a date
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  Speaker 4: as to when they're going to be shooting this. The
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  Speaker 4: big problem continues to be something Farland's schedule. He's so
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  Speaker 4: busy with so many things. Yeah, you know, who knows.
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  Speaker 4: Another thing is apparently he writes the scripts, you know,
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  Speaker 4: So that's also what takes forever. It's him getting the
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  Speaker 4: time to write him so well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one thing I have to say about this
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  Speaker 2: show for him anyway, it's fun. It's fun for him.
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  Speaker 2: He gets to pretend to be a Starship captain, which
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  Speaker 2: if you know anything about him, you know he was
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  Speaker 2: making excuse me, he was making Star Trek fan films
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  Speaker 2: in his garage with his friends when he was twelve
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  Speaker 2: years old. So in the back of my mind, I
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  Speaker 2: always feel like he's gonna come back to it at
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  Speaker 2: some point, because even though he is crazy busy with
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  Speaker 2: all these other things, right, you need a break every
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  Speaker 2: now and then, and you need to do something that
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  Speaker 2: you enjoy. I'm not saying he doesn't enjoy the other shows,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel like he must enjoy this one a
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  Speaker 2: little more.
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  Speaker 3: It seems more like the Passion Project for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So hopefully he's able to do it.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, even if they shot tomorrow, right, that's
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  Speaker 4: a year away from us actually seeing it at least. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so not anytime soon, guys.
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  Speaker 2: And if we get one or two seasons every four years,
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, yeah, because it's quality stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. It'll be interesting what they do.
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: Uh what was the name of the the of the
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  Speaker 4: like slime creature? That was Norm McDonald but Nor McDonald
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  Speaker 4: has since passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I can't remember. Yeah, I think yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if they'll get a new voice
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  Speaker 4: or just he's not on the show anymore, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they say he ate something and that changed
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  Speaker 4: his voice.
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  Speaker 2: I don't or we'll get Seth McFarlane's Norm McDonald impression,
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  Speaker 2: because he takes a million impressions, so those a million voices.
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  Speaker 3: There go there you go. Well, all right, well that's
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  Speaker 3: all the news stories.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah cool?
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  Speaker 3: Cool?
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well, uh, shall we get to our main topic.
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  Speaker 4: We have two episodes to review since Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, two of them, two of them.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go fun. Well now comment.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so we have two Starfleet Academy episodes to
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  Speaker 4: go over, episodes eight and nine. I'm trying to see
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  Speaker 4: if I can find out the names of the episodes.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see, try to look up the Wikipedia. Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: episode eight was called Life the Life of the Stars. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: this is the one that brought back Tilly. She was
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  Speaker 4: brought back to help the cadets do therapy and get
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  Speaker 4: over their recent tragedy at the what was that.
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  Speaker 2: The the the Kawasaki, Yeah, the Kawasaki Yasaki.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And uh and so they're, you know, just process
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  Speaker 3: that grief. They did lose a friend.
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  Speaker 4: So so, you know, they wanted it to go through
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  Speaker 4: all that. We also learned that Sam was still glitching
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  Speaker 4: out and it was becoming a big problem. I think
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  Speaker 4: they even said fatal for Sam. And so, uh, the
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  Speaker 4: captain and the doctor had to take Sam to her
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  Speaker 4: home planet.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't even the whole plant.
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  Speaker 2: Like cask costs.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: They had to take her there and get her repaired. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: it was an interesting episode, pretty divisive among the fan group.
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  Speaker 4: Some people really loved it, Uh, there's the very meta
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  Speaker 4: uh insertion from Tilly where she basically just straight up
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  Speaker 4: tells fans that don't like this episode, screw you. I'm
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  Speaker 4: having a good time, which fair enough, but you know, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it was based on a play called our Town, very
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  Speaker 4: famous play. So yeah, I was not my favorite episode.
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  Speaker 4: I did have some issues. Yep, I think one of
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  Speaker 4: my first ones that kind of threw me for a loop.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe maybe I'm wrong on this, so if I am,
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  Speaker 4: let me know. But Tilly from the very beginning says
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  Speaker 4: that she was working with the third year students. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: but wasn't the whole premise of this show. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: the academy was just now starting up again after one
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  Speaker 4: hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: Makes no sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, makes no.
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  Speaker 4: Sense that that was interesting to me. Another thing is
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  Speaker 4: when Tilly is first introduced in Discovery, right, because she's
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  Speaker 4: a legacy character.
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  Speaker 3: At this point, she is.
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  Speaker 4: Known as a theoretical engineer, that she works in the
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  Speaker 4: engineering department right with Stammards. But they brought her back
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  Speaker 4: in as therapist. Is that she get a course change,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a career path change.
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  Speaker 3: Or we are we doing something different?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know it. Yeah, I don't know. We want to bring
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  Speaker 2: Tilly back. How do we do it? We can have
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  Speaker 2: the kids work on mushrooms with her. Now, let's do
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  Speaker 2: a play. Yeah, okay, how do we make it make sense?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. They just have them do a play.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: It makes those sense. It makes absolutely those sense.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't, It really doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been it would have made more sense
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  Speaker 2: to have what's his name, Culver, the doctor from Discovery?
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  Speaker 2: Was that his name?
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  Speaker 3: Culver? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, would have made more sense to have him there.
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  Speaker 2: He's at least a doctor, he's dealt with an incredible
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  Speaker 2: amount of loss, he's cross trained as a as a
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  Speaker 2: therapist they mentioned in past episodes.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, that would have been a much at least thematically.
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  Speaker 4: It would have been a better character for that role.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, And if you want her there, fine,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you know they're they're they're traveling together for some reason
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  Speaker 2: and they end up at the Academy and I don't know, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Another thing I thought, which was the placement of the episode,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: so we had the Miyazaki what was that episode?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Episode five? I think, yeah, No, six, episode six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something in between these two episodes.
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  Speaker 3: We had the spring spring Breaking episode design.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so if we're doing from the dealing with
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: the repercussions of the Miyazaki and we're talking about how
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: we're so emotionally in turmoil this episode have been there,
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  Speaker 4: then you do the the fun spring break episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Right before you get into your for now, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. So Picard got assimilated by the borg best
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  Speaker 2: of both worlds. The very next episode of TNG he
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: goes back to France, and it's because of the best
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  Speaker 2: of both worlds. It's because he's got a process all
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  Speaker 2: of that pain. It would it would be like them
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  Speaker 2: doing the vosh uh Riisa episode in between those two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it just doesn't vit. The thing is, like,
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  Speaker 4: all you had to do is flip them and it
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  Speaker 4: would have made a little bit more since it's you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: just weird choices. Yeah. Are you familiar with that play?
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever watched it or read it?
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  Speaker 2: I am familiar with it, Like they you know, they
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  Speaker 2: mentioned our town. I immediately knew what it was. But honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't read it or seen it in probably thirty
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  Speaker 2: five years, so I don't. I don't remember it.
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  Speaker 4: I never read it or or or watched it in
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  Speaker 4: school at all. Yeah, you know, but i'd be interested,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, sure, why not?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. There's a there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of other problems people had with it. People felt
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  Speaker 4: it was condescending episode. People felt that, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: characters are out of place.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the whole issue.
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  Speaker 4: With Sam needing a childhood to be more resilient in everything.
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  Speaker 4: I like, I get a lot of people really loved
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  Speaker 4: what they did with a doctor, and that guy acted
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  Speaker 4: his ass off trying to make that work.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a bit of a problem at that. Yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: excuse me. He had a holographic family eight hundred years ago,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and because of that, he doesn't want to be anybody's
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: mentor ever again, because because he lost he lost his daughter,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: right am I remembering that that saying, yeah, okay, not
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: not to take a ship on the doctor's holographic family.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: But he had that family for like two weeks. Right
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: when his holographic daughter passed away, he still had a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: holographic wife, and he still had a holographic son, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: we never saw them again. He did not continue to
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: ah visit them. He did not continue to have this
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: life with them. He pretty much forgot about them, and
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: so did all of us. Not to say that there
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: isn't he he wouldn't feel a loss there, but he's
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: mentored other people. Yeah. He mentored Kess and he lost
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and he lost her.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Seven nine.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: He mentored seven of nine and he lost her. Yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Captain Janeway gone, she's dead, dead, seven hundred years. Yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: at this point, Chacota, Tom Neelix, Harry, all of them,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: all of them, everyone that he's ever known is dead.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Everyone that was on that ship with him is is dead,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and he had much more experience with them. Right, So
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like them pulling this member Barry of he
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: had a daughter once.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel that that character is as significant
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: as all of these tons of other characters that we
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that we have seen, Reginald Barkley, doctor Zimmerman.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Dead well, whether or not the significance of his daughter
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to him, right, it's it's the fact that he has
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: dealt with the is and should be more emotionally intelligent
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: to handle that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: The other thing, too, for me, was the the makers,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: the ones who created Sam. Yeah, they they acted completely
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: different than how they acted in the DS nine episode.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: In the d S nine episode, they were jerks to her.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on a minute. So I think and I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: saw a lot about this, and I think people are confusing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was the same entities that she
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: was interesting. The ones from the Deep Spased nine episodes,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: those were the Those were the like the people from
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Cask who sent her to Starfleet Academy. These this episode,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: these are the people from CASK that made her, And
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: they're not the same people it was, you know, the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: govern Okay, the government. It needs an agent to yea, yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to send to Starfleet Academy. So they go to the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: scientists and say, create us an agent to send to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy. So it's two different organizations.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay, at.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Least that's how I and their voices were different. So, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the voices were different.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I think that might have been a choice on the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: part of the of the producers to try and show
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: this is not the same people we saw three weeks ago.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Well then I wish that was a little clearer because
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I was confused by it. I was like, these people
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: are like completely different yeah, that could have been clearer.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they could have. All it would have
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: taken was a line like you know, six weeks ago,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I visited the elders and they said blah blah blah
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: blah blah. You know, you do something like that, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: now the viewer immediately knows, Okay, this is not the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: same people from.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all I yeah, it's a
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: little thing like that. I do agree with you that
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the doctor, the way they handled his turmoil could have
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: been better. I I I very clearly. We see what
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: they're trying to get at, right, that he's so emotionally broken.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: And all that, but his it rings hollow like we'd said.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm just kind of thinking of living it all
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: in my head and thinking like, okay, yeah, how do
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: we how do we handle this?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It also likes me.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: It frustrates me for previous episodes because you had opportunities
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: to show that he was uncomfortable with her.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: He did it once and that was it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they could have done a thing where she constantly
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: looks for him and he keeps just shutting her down.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: So then that way when he when he doesn't hold
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: her hand, when he doesn't you know, want to be there.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: There's more to it, right, there's more weight. We've seen it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I just think little things like that just show missed
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: opportunities to make it resonate.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, you know, if you don't want to be
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: anyone's mentor ever again, but you work out a school.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, come on yeah, yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That just doesn't make any sense.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: You've been you've been in Starfleet for nine hundred years.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: You could you could request a different post. Yeah, you
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: know it's fretly yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Or retire and just do whatever the hell you want,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: you know, you.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Know, And and I'm also okay, they keep throwing out
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: these member berries and it's like they're telling us, hey,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: we remember these other shows. They they count, but then
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: there's significant things from those other shows that they just
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: ignore and never never touch on at all. You know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: he's got I don't remember how many, but he's he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: got one hundred and fifty brothers and sisters that the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: last the last time we saw them, they were on
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a mining colony or something, scrubbing godwits or or you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: know what happened to them? Yeah, what happened to them?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Where are Yeah?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I don't he forgot to show the pictures as we're talking,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: but and.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: This, and and see. Okay, so this is how you know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: if they sat around, Yeah, if they just if they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: just sat around. So in this episode, the makers mentioned
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the fact that after she lives this childhood, she won't
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: be the same. She will have two sets of memories. Right,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: this would be the perfect, perfect opportunity for them to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: cover what I just talked about. With his one hundred
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and fifty brothers and sisters. He could have told the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: story about how he when he got back from the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Delta Quadrant, he fought a legal battle for them, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the compromise was, you know, they didn't just set these
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: these holograms free. The compromise was their hollow mat matrices.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Is that how he's saying? Okay, their hollow matrices were
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: merged with his Yeah, so he has the memories of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty other holograms who basically were slaves
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: for six years. Yeah, and that has also shaped his
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: his psyche. And that's why he's a little different than
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the doctor we knew for for seven years. God damn it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: If they would just sit around and talk to each
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: other before they write these shows.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Well, and it could have even been when he's talking
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to the makers, like, look, I get your apprehension with
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: organics because of the yigration. You know, they treated us
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: bad too.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I was, you know, hundreds of years ago, and they
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: have evolved and they're you know this, they're that, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: So it's just it frustrates me because they have the
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: opportunities they lay them there yea, and they just it's
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: like it's just right there man.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: The oh yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: The other note I had on this episode is when
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Tillie looks at Sam and goes, you're my favorite. Yeah, Like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: what did a teacher do that at a military academy?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't imagine a drill sergeant's gonna look
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: at her new recruit and be like no favorite.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Noe, Nope.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: But whatever.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we should probably get to the next episode two
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: because you got so many.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: The next episode was called three hundredth Night, and basically
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: it's the end of the school, your kids, We're done.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've seen eight days with these people, but
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: you know it's three hundred days later.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we had to spring break two
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: days ago, you know, and now we're done.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I guess these short seasons they you know, when a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: show had twenty six episodes, Yeah, whether that show was
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was Star Trek, Law and Order, or you know Roseanne,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it when it had twenty six episodes, you saw the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: passage of time. You felt the passage of time because
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season, it's usually you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the first week of school, and like the third episode
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: is usually a Halloween or a Thanksgiving themed episode. There's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a Christmas or a New Year's themed episode. And you
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: actually felt the progressive when it's snowing outside your house,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it's snowing on the show. They don't do that anywhere.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And I know this is like a this is Star
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Trek and they're an outer space and whatnot. You're not
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: going to see the weather and the holidays and whatnot.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: But I don't feel the passage of time. This is
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the end of the school year, and I feel like
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: they reported for day one last week.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Well, they grew up so fast, That's that's what it is.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Donnie says. Side note, why hire a bridge croof You
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: never see them on the bridge? Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Becky Lynch is too busy fighting in the WWE.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Sooo she's one of the characters that they have on
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the Bridge Crew.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, So.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Basically in this episode, it's the end of the academic year,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: our main cast performs a kling On ritual calling themselves
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: a chosen family. I don't know if you remember that part.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: They all were in the room freaking out of the bowl.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, our non traditional Klingon doing all the traditional
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: click on.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Stuff exactly, yes, yes, yes, uh, and so they all
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: kind of are are happy to be a family.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: And then finally what's his name?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Mer Caleb Muir remembers, Oh, yeah, I had this special
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: secret code with my mom. Maybe I should try that signal.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Oh look at that she's been messaging me. Yeah, so
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: okay whatever, and uh so he decides he's gonna go
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: find his mom finally, and uh and so they find her.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: They they take off in her shuttle, and and uh.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: They kind of like, well, they steal a shuttle because yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: they Starfleet is going to deaf Con three because Sarah's
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: stole the Omega thirteen.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Right, and yeah the Omega forty two or whatever.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was my Galaxy quest Sarah, Sarah. Yeah, anyway, it's.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: It's The frustration I had with this is once again
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Starfleet is made to look in competent, right that it
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: took them. They flat out say it took them weeks
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: or months to figure out that these space.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Nukes were missing.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they didn't know, like, hey, one of our
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: most like top secret weapons is just gone. Yeah, much
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: less the amount of them, because eventually they create a
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: whole wall around the Federation with these things.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: How many of these things did they steal?
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: They never gave a number, but they they surrounded the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: entire Federation with them, cutting off the Federation from everyone else.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: So that's like one hundreds of light years thousands, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: don't know what the official number is, but to cover
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: that much ground, yeah, you would need so many of
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: these things. And they're just like, oh it took some
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: once to figure this out. Well what the hell?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so the kids steals the shuttle craft they
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: go to find the mom. While all that's happening, the
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Chancellor she figures out that the shuttle's gone, and she's like, oh,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I got to go save my kids, And she's reminded, hey,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: we've been ordered to stay here near Beta's head to help,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you know, defend beta's head, and then she's flat out
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: just says, well, the admiral knows I couldn't follow that order.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I gotta go save my kids. And she takes off, and.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, nobody follows orders. The kids don't follow orders. They
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: steal a shuttle, the captain doesn't follow orders. She steals
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: a ship.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody cares.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's stupid. It's all stupid. Yeah, thinking back to the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: first episode, Uh, wasn't near's mom, wasn't wasn't there dream
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to go to Earth together someday?
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: He mentions that in one of the episodes, to try food,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: and that's how he'd been storing food under his bed.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they mentioned it in the first episode.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I think she said to him, we'll go there someday. Yeah. Yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you know he lives there now. Yeah, take her home
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: with you, get it. I I don't know when he
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: finds her, they have the reunion, the cadets walk in.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: He's immediately lying to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: His mom, Yeah, why.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Why this is your mom? These are your friends, mom,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I'm in Starfleet Academy. I'm a cadet. These are my shipmates.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: We came here to rescue you. Yeah, we have a
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: ship we'll be safe on Earth. Let's go.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Well, the idea is she hates the Federation that much,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: then why does she want to go to Earth someday?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Right, it's.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: And even even if you hate it that much, they
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: just reunited you with your son. Yeah, there's something good,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you know. So yep, I I one hundred percent believe
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: they're going to reveal that she had something to do
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: with the space bombs, that she created them or something
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: like that, because she says I can fix anything.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: She's not a good Guy's not guy.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there'll be something there and he'll have to he'll
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: have to pick between his biological mom or his new
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: space mom.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Man, what one of the things I kept thinking about,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: especially at the end of the episode when they're showing
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: that the Athena is now separated between the Federation because
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: of the wall and everything. I thought they should have
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: left the Athena on the other side still with the
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: other ships, right, and all you had is the shuttle
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: craft with the kids. I would have brought over the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: girlfriend who the bit is a girlfriend, manimax, because then
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: you could already do off of what you've shown is
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: that she can communicate telepathically. Right, So even though they
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: can't communicate through calms, she can work with them and
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: coordinate to help get rid of the minefield.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So is it a minefield or is it a force field?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: It's it's like a minefield, is what they said.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I I feel like it would have
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: been more.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: More danger if it's the the kids are alone, they've
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: got to handle this themselves, as opposed to they have
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: access to a starship, and the starships can help, you know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what else.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of felt like this episode was slow.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I know, it's building up for the finale. I I
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: imagine the finale is gonna end on a giant cliffhanger,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So, but we got we got to see glitter puke again.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: So that's that was Yeah, that's you know, thank god.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his name? Nuts Ruca Rucca.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I imagine he will be chewing up all the scenery
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: next episode.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: What do you think his.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Plan is here? Just to like cut off the Federation
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: and and that's it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, I'm still fuzzy on like, how
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: is this guy a threat? Yeah? This guy was sitting
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: in prison for how many years? But you know he
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: also runs an empire that rivals the United Federation of Planets.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it. I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: And on the map they showed the Kardassian Empire was
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: there too, and it was pretty big. So like, do
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: they not get along with the Federation or.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Do they do they they can help or they?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows? New Sprockets did nothing wrong. There should
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: be statues to him all over.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: He built a wall and got the Federation to pay
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: for it. Yeah, you know, at least there's that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I don't know.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's frustrating because like just little fixes
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: and it would have been more coherent, more interesting.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: What do you predict for the for the finale? Uh m,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: are we gonna get a burn?
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Two point?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Oh? No? I don't think we're gonna get the burn
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: two point oh. I think I think Mom is not
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: not an angel mm hmm. Like you said, I think
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to choose between Mom and uh and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: space Mom. And he's either gonna choose Space Mom or
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Mom's gonna sacrifice herself or something.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's I don't think she's gonna live
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: out live past the next episode or or the conclusion
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: next season, if it's if it's a cliffhanger.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I I did like this one episode though, that they
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: finally figured out Oh yes, Sam is a hologram. She
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: can just pop in and out of places, like they
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: just figured that out.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: But they still haven't. Yeah, they still haven't shown us
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: how she works. Or the doctor. I mean, is he
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: still wearing his mobile emitter? Does he have an updated
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: mobile emitter? We talked about this a few weeks ago.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Are there are there holographic emitters all over the academy?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I mean she goes wherever she went to a bar
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: she went to there on an alien planet, if there,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: if there are mobile if there are holographic emitters on
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: this planet, why would she and her program have access
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to that system. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense, which
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: means she has to have some sort of self contained emitter,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: which means even though she's a hologram, there is some
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: part of her that's physical. Her program needs to resigne somewhere,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: some sort of hardware. Yeah, but we don't know what
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that hardware is, where that hardware hardware is. Yeah, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I'm still frustrated with the the inaptitude of the Federation
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: and how they keep writing it because even like there's
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: a point where where Genesis is like, oh, if if
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: you go into this area and you and you turn
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: off the airlock or whatever it is, you can escape unnoticed,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: like like it's nothing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: No, that was that was Beta Max, Okay, because she
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and uh what's his name, Caleem no Ja Jaden, they
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: were they were hiding in uh in uh like the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: storage room or something, and it was that they decreased
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the air pressure or something to fool the sensors or Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, we're eight hundred years in
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just yeh. Donnie brings up another good point.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: He says that in the Discovery episode they mentioned the
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Klingons and Kardashians were part of the Federation.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Consistency is right, it's whatever they want it to be. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: so who knows.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I just got I want it to be good, and
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: it could be they just like think about things. We're
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: just a moment, you know. But it it's not and
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: it's frustrating. All right, Well, I guess we should get
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: to listener feedback. We got a few emails and voicemails,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: so okay, let's do it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Our feedback, all right, So we do have some emails.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: You can get ahold of us on social media. We
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: also have email addresses. We have TREKCASTTG at gmail dot com.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Scott has a strong Beard one as well, Strong Beard
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: seventeen oh one at gmail dot com. We're also on
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: social media at trek cast TG. We're on basically all
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: of them, and of course we are on. You can
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: leave us voicemails at five seven zero six six to
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: one zero zero zero one. Like Dan says, no one
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: will answer your call. It'll just be left as a
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: voicemail and we'll handle it. Tim has sent a couple
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: of different voicemails, one for each episode, so I will
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: play them now. So let's play the first one for
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: episode eight years.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Tim, and there's a real star, Trek. What can I
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: say about this show? Just when you think you can't
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: get any worse, it's like hold my beer because this
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: was just, undoubtedly, I think, probably the worst thing I've
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: ever seen. It just all seemed to be like word salad.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I didn't understand what was going on. They're just a
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: series of scenes with no sort of interconnecting parts. And
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: in the end, I was like, well, what happened in
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: this episode? I don't understand what they're saying. I have
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: no desire to check out this play that they're talking about.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: It's just well, it's just terrible and I can't wait
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: for this garbage to be over. What I will ask
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: is do you do your show on Discord because I'd
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: like to sort of just sort of maybe join in
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: for the last show of the season and say hello,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: but yeah, let us know. But yeah, one nice thing
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I did enjoy the last couple of minutes with the
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Doctor and Sam. They could spend a bit more time
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: doing that that. That was quite a Star Trek themed scene,
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: wasn't it? But oh is it?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Mell?
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Can the Doctor not act? I found it quite cringe.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: But all in all, the show was terrible. It's really
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: sad that The Night of the Second Kingdoms has finished.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Because that would.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Cleanse me palette afterwards. But then you guys cleansed me palette.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: See this is what I said last week. The show's awful.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Your show is brilliant, so keep up the good work
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: and hopefully with any like, I might be able to
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: join you live next week. Surely it's Discord, you said
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: you in the meantime, Live long and prosper, take care
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: of boys.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: Love you.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Nice well, Discord, it's it's live on YouTube.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'd be happy to have you join us, dim,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: that'd be great.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it sounds like he was not a fair
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: of the Droop Therapy episode. We also have another voicemail
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: from him, so let me let me play this one.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: This is for episode nine.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Gentlemen, Daniel, I hope you're feeling better, so I do apologize.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: It wasn't until I went to listen to last week's
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: podcast I suddenly remembered, Oh.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's had a little minor operation.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I say minor. You probably didn't think it was
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: miner at the time. I hope you're feeling better, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I hope these boys have been looking after you and
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: then you back up to full strength again or somewhere
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: near it. Regarding the latest Staffleate Academy, predictably, it was awful.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: I didn't think much about it at all.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: There was the only thing I could say one nice
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: thing was when Kleb find him out with his mum.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: I quite liked that. I actually quite liked that part.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: That to me was probably one of my favorite bits
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: of the whole season so far.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: But apart everything else, again, the show's just not very good,
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: is it?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: I have decided that Genesis is the hottie of the show,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: all right.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Lowest common denominator here.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: And the one thing I just wanted to say that
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: really stuck out for me, the worst line in the
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: whole show, And I.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Thought she didn't say that.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Did She got to rewind it and listened to it,
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: and she did say it was when she said they've
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: put us in a little box and we're the only
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: ones outside of it. Hang on, come on, how many
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: people did that get past? And to be greenlit? Awful,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: right and awful show? One hot actress Gay Kling ons
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: in skirts. They've got a lot going for it this show.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: But I look forward to next week because it'll be
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: the last week, and then after that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: You can talk about Star Trek.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I say you live long and prosper guys, Daniel, take care,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: make get better soon, love you bye.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: There you go there you go. I'm glad he's declared
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: the hottie of the show. Nice.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Right, well Dan, you got some emails due?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So let's see there's two of them here. Hey, guys,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Venice here parentheses like Italy returning with some thoughts on
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: episode eight. Wow, they do have the ability to provide
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a team building simulated exercise that could have been done
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: a few episodes ago without being responsible for the death
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: of a cadet.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: It is so fabulous to see Lieutenant Tilley, a theoretical
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: engineer with a Starfleet Medal of Honor, who, with all
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: the skills and knowledge from her experiences, decides the best
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: teachings for these new cadets. Is pause for a dramatic
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: effect with a sigh fitter, Why is the shuttle craft
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: so damn huge. That's some high end luxury class shit.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: It's like a Lincoln down car of shuttle crafts. That's
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: not her, that's that's me Lincoln town car. Anyway, Duval says,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: it's a shuttle craft built for the whole damn academy.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: That's true. Okay, scene jump here Caleb tells a drunk
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: ass Tarima this isn't you? Her response is, how would
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: you know? Uh, you shared a blind melon music video
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: moment together? Did she forget they connected? She finally left
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: mental Beta's residue. Oh, she definitely left mental betazad residue
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Oh it's so sticky.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: One would say he knows her pretty well. Yeah, why
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the f they got their cadets sleeping on large sponges
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: for pillows? Duval kept yelling role for initiative when we
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: see Sam's planet show up. If the planet's narrators were
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: talking for the doctor's memories of what he considered home,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: then it would have been on Voyager. After all, when
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: he was talking about his hollow family, he stated for them,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: for him, it was like yesterday. Therefore, the Academy would
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: have no emotional value for him. Such a low blow.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: If they didn't have a budget big enough to create
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: a homeworld for Sam, why not just fix her in
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: sick bay? Duval says, I guess we're reusing the Academy
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: set since we blew our budget on Space Jock's homeworld
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Moon in the last episode. Yeah, where was the hypospray
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to help Jaden? Cling on with a very evident human cold.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Why did he have to quarantine in his quarters? That's true, Yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that's true. He's a very good I didn't even think
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: of that. We've seen Tom Parris and Captain janeway On
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Voyager return to human form from being fucking lizards with
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: a specialized anti proton therapy administered by the doctor the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: delta quadrant. Hold on, and yet there is.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: No way a goddamn deep cut.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And there was warning.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Warning, NERD alert, NERD alert.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: All right, so he cured he cured lizards, but there's
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: no way to cure cold. Also, also, don't trust a
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: chancellor who doesn't wear shoes. There's absolutely no way. All
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: those holes are pristine with everyone else booting around. Have
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a fabulous day, guys. Venice signing off.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Nice, So thank you for that.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Some good points there. All right, let's see we've got
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: one from Duval Greeting's most excellent Hosts of Trek cast. Wow. Nice,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that's uh, it's quite a salutation there. Indeed, so Jaden
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: has started his own midnight society. You have not experienced
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: are you afraid of the dark until you have? In
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: the original Klingon of course, Betamax enters the same turbolift
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: as Caleb, of all the turbolifts on this starship, she
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: walks into mine or whatever Humphrey Bogart was saying in Casablanca. Seriously,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: hacker genius Caleb could have figured out how to receive
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: his mom's messages in the past two years. Took Sam
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: two seconds upon hearing it from him to figure it out.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Shake my head, honestly surprised they didn't go the route
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: that he would have to retrieve his old roboteddy toy
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: and that his mom had been sending hidden messages to that. Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I actually thought about that too, like when Yeah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I gotta get my old iPhone four.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: That's the only way I can get these messages.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: All these all these Instagram messages on my zoom yep.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell the damn Chancellor you found your mom. Yeah. Yeah,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: the Federation maybe on lockdown, but they have allies. Yeah,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: that Chancellor pretty sure could have helped to save your mom.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: But nope, don't say anything at all. It's nothing. Iye roll.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Of course, the majority of the Scooby gang is going
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: with Caleb to save his Mommy ls well, and in
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: five minutes, Mom is found. Yeah, main character going to
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: say mean things to their friends so they will hate them,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: so their friends will let them go. So cliche. All
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: these minds and no one noticed that they're being placed
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: all around Federation space. Bullshit? I mean he I mean,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: isn't mister tic tac toe enemy number one? No one
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: is keeping an eye on him or associates since the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: robbery of highly classified weapons. So you're telling me USS
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Discovery can't just jump inside the minefield. At least that
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: will be another fighting ship outside of Federation space. They
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: name drop Discovery before, So you guys think that might
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: happen in the season finale. Yeah, I don't know. I
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: could probably not. Now here's a real good question. Oh
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: this is good that I really like to hear your
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: thoughts on. Do you think we will get a return
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: of the Doctor as the eh the Emergency Command hologram?
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I mean he was at a bridge station. Yeah, that
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: would actually make sense. That would be a neat throwback
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and be nice to see that Starfleet implemented that program.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: That's all I got until next episode, duvall, I want
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: to walk through minefield, Gerrino, your trek past New York
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: City Freelance course spot it. So what would be interesting
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: is if he had not activated that subroutine in his
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: program in eight hundred years and something happens next episode
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: where he's forced to do it in the middle of
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a battle, and because he hasn't
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: access that subroutine in six hundred seve hundred years or whatever,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: it defaults to the Voyager command uniform.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Oh that's funny.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that I would like to see.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that'd be funny.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I think it would be awesome. Yeah, I think it
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: would be I think it would be awesome. And I
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: think they could digitally deage him. Yeah. So, like it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: just for a second, he he activates the eh, he
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: remateializes as nineteen ninety seven Robert Priccardo in a red
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: in a red Voyager uniform, and then makes a comment
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: about I haven't access to this program in quite a while.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I need to update my appearance parameters or whatever, right,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and then he just, you know, he like shutters the
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: ships for a second. Yeah, now, and now he's you know,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: sixty year old Robert Priccardo in a current command style uniform.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I'd be down for that. Man. That sounds like fun. Yeah, yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: well we'll see. I don't think they won't. They won't,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: but it's a nice idea.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Well, we got Chasmis on the line too. He's been
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: waiting all right, let me let me bring him in
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: there he is, there's jazz.
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: Biz glorious, mister Potters.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Are you one with Bajor right now?
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: Remember my I know if I bend it down, I
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: will yeah yeah, yeah, all the sunlight's coming through.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: So what do you think of the episodes?
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: Theater episode was pretty bad because it was like they
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: keep on mentioning the Miyazaki incident and you're like, okay,
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: so what was the Miyazaki?
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: Like the episode went by so quick that I forget.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: And then plus they're on spring break yeah, and you're like, okay, uh,
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen any school this year maybe one two classes?
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: Are you guys even in school? Like what's going on here?
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: So and that episode, it was just the doctor's part
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: I thought was the most interesting part with the hologram.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: I wish that was, you know, fleshed out better. And
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: then they left our town maybe on the back burner
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: a little bit more, and then you know, you got
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: the bait is a way that's whiny that she's been
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: out for a couple weeks or whatever. That's right, Yeah,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: because she got a new she got what is she now?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: Because she's got an ultra.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, hibbit chip.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, and you know it's gonna destroy the Omega device
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: because she's going to use her Jean Grey powers and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: turn to the Phoenix.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: So I don't get like, Okay, So when she when
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: she saved them, right before she did that, she turns
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to Caleb and says, you're gonna hate me for this,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: or you might hate me for something along those lines.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: She does her Canary cry save them right.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: And it's it's never been awkward since then, he's been
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: he's been after her. He doesn't like, you know, she
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: just says she feels awkward. But they don't really do
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: anything with that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: She said, you're gonna hate me for this, but that's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: not really she hates herself for it. For it, I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: think I think that's what it is. He don't care.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: He's like, ah, they needed to kill.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Him, yeah right right.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Also, I didn't even put this in my notes, but
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: the fact that they brought her back and they were like,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: we're gonna put you now in the Starfleet Academy of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: the War College.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: That makes zero sense.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you wouldn't one zero, Yeah, you're not gonna just
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: transfer schools like that. But two her dad was so
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: finicky about putting her in any of these institutions much less.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Now she's in danger and you're gonna just like put
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: her in the one where like the kid died, like.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: The hippie college.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she's gonna see Barkley.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Now, it would have made more sense if they're like,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: we pulled her and now she's going to school in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: Beta's that like Betazet College.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, completely pulled.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, she's going to be b c U.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fighting butterflies, the bs, the butterflies or whatever.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: And then the next episode, they somehow miraculously find his
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: mother right like they he pinpoints it. They land on
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: the planet and within seconds he finds his mother on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: the planet. There's no search. He's like just walking down
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: the alley like mom, mom, you.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Know, because because he remember he remembered his ic Q passwords,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: that's right, and he found all the messages.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got the special code for his decoder ring.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: Okay, like when you're in the store and you lose,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: like your wife or something.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: She just disappears.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: You just walk around the whole story looking for Yeah
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: you ever, you ever have you know, have that happen
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: or anything? Like probably kids or whatever.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I just have them go over the loudspeaker that I'm missing,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: let them.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would probably have my tricoder scan for human
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: life signs. But that's that's just me.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy like that.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes. And then of course, like the combadges like
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: speaks out loud when they're getting arrested, right and like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: where everybody can hear everything. It's like, okay, that makes sense.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the problem with the combadges Okay, well.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Except that they're on they're on a covert miss mission.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Why are they wearing Why are they wearing combatges? You
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: don't put them on silent when.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: Apparently you can swallow.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're delicious.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, give the new great great flavored combadge.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, you know when Caleb's like telling everybody hates him,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: you know, be like saying that Scott powder smells like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: cheeseburgers and get out of here.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, man, Scott's hear you're making a run
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: for his job.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I see how it is. Scott's gonna put you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: in the basement.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Man, be careful, all right, But I don't know that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: It's just yeah, they do need more episodes per season
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: to build.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Up the characters.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and they've spent so much money on effects and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: filming and you know, directing, and you know, all that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: looks great.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it all looks fantastic.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: And you know, you got your cast. And I do
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: like the lead character. I like the Caleb guy mm hmm.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: You know, I like, you know, I like Genesis, uh.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: The or not the problem.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: So the Captain, on the other hand, she's I don't know,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: she has to grow on me so or the Chancellor
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: whatever she is, she.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Has to grow on you or she has grown on you.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: No, she has to, you know, like she's not I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: don't know for some reason. I just I like, but
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: I don't like her character. So I think her character
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: is just kind of written wrong.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean next week we'll we'll do our prediction
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: or our results show.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: What's your thoughts? Okay, I know you guys probably had
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: mcguffin device that destroys everything, you know. I was like,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: because every with Kurtsman.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Every season has to be the end of.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: The world something, so whatever they find, they have to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: figure out how to stop. Like the burn and now
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: the Omega thirteen or whatever the hell you call.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: It, Omega X or Mega red or whatever.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, like how big would this device have to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: be to cover the whole federation?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: And how many of them? Yes, yeah, that's a problem
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, space is yeah, yeah, it just makes
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: no sense much.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Less in the sphere, much less if he's going to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: be placing them around the amount of time it would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: take to travel and and do that and transport them,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Like do they not detect his ships with the space nukes?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Are they not able to.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: It's like it doesn't make sense. It's like this whole
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: giant net, yeah, cast over federation, and how would it
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: cover it that quick? You know, I'm mean they just
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: warped out maybe a day ago, right, And because they
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: never explained like how long they've been traveling. It's just
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: kind of like when they're on that shuttle craft on
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: the previous episode. It's like this giant shutter craft, right,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: and there's like nothing in between the shuttle craft. It's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: just empty space.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: It's like yeah, so or.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: Something if he had surrounded let's say Beta Z, right,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: that makes more sense, like yes, yes, like one planet, yeah,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: one planet, like okay, you know this is your new
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: you know, ahead of starfleet, and we're gonna.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: Even if would make more sense than the like this
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: is huge, like giant space. Yeah all right, well had
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: multi multiple nets cast on each different sector, yeah, than
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: the whole sector.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know or even if he maybe he didn't
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: take the Omega, but like he found the facility and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: he was going to blow up that one facility and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: it was just like a giant chunk out of the federation, right, yeah,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: something like that makes me.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: A shockwave that just went yeah, yeah, that'd be cool.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: That would makes more sense.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: They go on the Miyazaki, right, and they have this advice.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: Why was the Miyazaki sitting there with that device in
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: there be like a nuclear warhead just chilling there.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it wasn't on the Miyazaki.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: It wasn't.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: No, the Miyazaki was the distraction so that they could
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: steal it from that space station or whatever.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, from yes, okay, okay, okay, So it's.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Area fifty two because that's a little more secretive.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just one more secretive then.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: So that's an episode.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: I was out of town watching it on my phone,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: so okay, like I didn't you know, I really haven't
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: gone back to watching, you know, like I was watching that,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: so it's twice and then I can catch up.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: But now I'm yeah, I watched it after hurt surgery,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: so you know it's all the same.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Literally, literally, man, that's right.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: It literally he's like looking at the peak vomit and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: smiling light look at it.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I looked at the cardiologian said, I no longer have
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: the will to live. All right, back back, Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: We got Hipster Spock waiting, and poor guy's been waiting forever,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: so let me let me bring him in.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: All right, Jasmine, thanks for being on.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: All right, here's Hipster Spock. I saw him pop up
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: there you are, buddy.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Hello, guys, Hey, how are you doing? Daniel? I'm going hello,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Hello Sunday. And yeah, actually, we didn't set our clock back,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: so I was thinking, okay, it's four o'clock, so I'm
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: gonna log in and catch the beginning of the Joe.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: But once I logged in, you guys are we're like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: wrapping up, So yeah, I forgot that. You guys change
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: your clock like like a week, a few weeks ahead.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: But it's okay, what what country are you in?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm in Poland and Europe, so yeah, we
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: don't change our clock until the end of the month.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, so for a few for.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: A few weeks, we're like five hours behind New York
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: rather than sick or ahead. I'm excusing.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: It is even in the even in the States here. Yeah,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: it's confusing. If you ever visit.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Nevada or Arizona, one of them doesn't.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ever visit Hoover Dam, Arizona does not
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: observe daylight savings time. Yeah, and Arizona and Nevada are
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: in two different time zones, and the Hoover Dam is
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: right on the border. So there's a clock on each pylon,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: and half of the year it's the same time. Half
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: of the year it's an hour.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Differentous, so freaking ridiculous.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to mess with a lot of people's heads.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can you imagine being a local there. You
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: you live in Arizona, but you work in Nevada or
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: vice versa. And you're like, I got an I got
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: an hour to get to work. Oh no, I'm supposed
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: to be there right now.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But anyway, it's almost done at least that's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: right through one more week. I mean it's I saw
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: some I saw some meme somewhere that, uh, this this
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: show is like some sort of a prison sentence. Uh yeah,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: but you know what do what do you think they'll
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: do next season? I mean they got one more season, right,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: they did there? Yeah, they're done frame shooting the next season.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: And and then so based on this, based on the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: feedback from this season, huh, they gotta reshoot the next season.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Probably what do you think.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Well that that uh, that assumes that they care about
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: the feedback.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's a business as usual.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine because it's been a few seasons,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: we are due for an evil AI plot. You know,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: we had, we had control, we had there was another
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: one in in Percard, like the evil Romulan Ai cult.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: So we're due.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: We're due for an evil AI cult or plot line, so.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Kind of like Control in the.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Discovery something like that, some new one.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: You know. Speaking of Ai, I think Ai Slappa would
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: probably be a probably be better than what we got
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: this season or what you guys thought. I mean, probably
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: GPT could do a better job.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Hi, honey, we'll say hill, what's going on?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Hello?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Hello there? Hi?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now now we gotta like, you know, greater
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: languages because with a young lady in our midst. So yeah,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: it's it's almost over next season. I don't know what's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: gonna happen, but hopefully maybe they might do a little
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: editing or something. Who knows. I mean, if they really
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: care about the thing, I would hope they would. But
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: if they don't, and okay, then they'll they'll continue to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: get review bombed. Right, And I mean, what do you
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: think about the the rumors that basically Trek is done
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: after next season because you know, there was this you
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: know rumor from a giant freaking robot or something.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and well there's a few places that are saying that.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: It feels like they want to reboot everything because of
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: the movies, right, they want to like completely start over
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: first with the movies. I think when you've had a
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: franchise go this long with this much connected lore, at
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: some point you do need to just like start over.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: If you're going to continue to make stories. It's kind
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: of what they do with James Bond, right, Like, there's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: a million James Bond movies, but each time a new
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: James Bond comes in, they just start fresh.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: They don't reconnect to the old ones, right Like.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: One of the one of the things that made the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Daniel Craig James Bond so innovative is the fact that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: all of his movies do connect like that wasn't in
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: the case with the other ones, like the the Pierce
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Brazen ones didn't connect at all. They were just standalone stories.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think if you're gonna do Star Trek again, yeah,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: you just need to reboot and you need to start over.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I think they I think they need a rest first.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I think so too.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I think they need a rest. I think we need
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: a period of time where there's no Star Trek so
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: that when they start this process again, they can look
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: back on it all and and take it in with
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: some fresh eyes and see what what worked, yeah, what
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: didn't work? Yeah, and move on from that. Yeah.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: I agree, I agree.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, Uh, the thing is, I mean the cinematography,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: based on what I see, it's amazing, and I think
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: they've spent all their their budget on that. They didn't
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: really spend a lot of budget on writing. I would
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I would rather have a stage, a empty stage set
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: via like a dog bill from large V treer and
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and some and really like engaging storylines and and delt
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and character development. That would be so much better than
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you know, all this a bousand whistles and you know
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: this and incompetence.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well there's there's an old Hollywood uh saying,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: which is a good scripture's word that's weight in gold,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: you know, because it's the foundation you need to have it.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: So all right, and you know, well, we'll see what
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: happens that ye season, but or even the next episode.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: They might throw us a banger, but hopefully, I mean,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: I want it to be good.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want it to be good. I imagine we'll
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: end on a cliffhanger. I don't I don't think it'll
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: be wrapped up, especially knowing that they had a season
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: two going into it, so I imagine we'll have a cliffhanger.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: How long do you think we have to wait between
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: the two seasons.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: I would imagine it'll all be done by next year,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: because you got season four a Strange New Worlds, then
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: you could do Starfleet Academy season two. Then you could
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: do the final season of Strange New Worlds season five,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: and all that stuff is shot, right, and you could
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: you could hammer all of that out, you know, by
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: next year. If you do Stranger World season four this year,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: like this fall, then you've only got two more seasons
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: left a TV. That's next year and you're done.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Stranger Worlds is at least somewhat tolerable because
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they they're at least, uh somewhat good at
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: their jobs.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: I mean it's hopefully, you know, hopefully it gets better.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, nothing is going to be Star Trek.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Scouts, but yeah, yeah, that is that is the peak.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: So m of course. All right and uh talk to
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: you guys later.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Thanks a little bit, thank you, please appreciate it.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well it's pretty much it for the show.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll be back next week with the finale
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: and results and yeah, let us know what play you
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: want us to do for our group therapy section.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Death of a Salesman, Yes, yeah, starting Quark.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well we'll see you guys later.
• 1:19:31
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