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Teen Girl Feared Burger King Night Shift, Gunned Down in Cold Blood · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why did a nineteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl have to die? Yeah, most of us worked
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Speaker 1: our way through college. I know in law school, I
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Speaker 1: had three jobs, and one of those jobs was at
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Speaker 1: a sandwich shop and it was situated in a big
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Speaker 1: parking lot in an L shaped strip center. And the
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Speaker 1: sandwich shop was on the very end of the strip center.
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Speaker 1: And every other store in that strip center would close
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Speaker 1: around six pm, but the sandwich shop where I worked
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Speaker 1: stayed open until eleven. And I remember sitting there. Everything
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Speaker 1: outside was dark, and I would be sitting there all
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Speaker 1: alone with the lights on in this sandwich shop, and
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Speaker 1: I remember hating being there all alone, and there would be,
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Speaker 1: you know, an hour or two when no one would
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Speaker 1: come through. It's like you're sitting duck. I'm talking, of course,
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Speaker 1: about nineteen year old Krista Crystal Nieves, just a beautiful
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Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl. She had told her mom that
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Speaker 1: she did not like working alone at night. But who
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Speaker 1: would have ever believed that someone would come along and
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Speaker 1: kill her? I mean to see, Grace, this is Cribe Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: and Series X one eleven. First of all, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friends at CBS two. As the rain
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Speaker 1: trickled down, The family of nineteen year old Crystal by
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Speaker 1: ron Nieves gathered outside the Burger King where she was
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Speaker 1: killed to leave flowers in her honor and to pray
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Speaker 1: for justice. Police have released these images of the robbery
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Speaker 1: that took place just before one Sunday morning at the
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Speaker 1: Burger King on East one hundred and sixteenth Street near
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Speaker 1: Lexington Avenue. That's where beron Nievez was working as a
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Speaker 1: cashier when an unknown male masked and dressed in all
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Speaker 1: black enter the restaurant and demanded money. Police say bron
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Speaker 1: Nievez was shot in the torso as the robbery progressed.
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Speaker 1: Police say two other people were injured during the course
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Speaker 1: of this robbery. A female manager at the restaurant was
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Speaker 1: punched in the face and a male customer was likely
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Speaker 1: pistol whipped. Both are expected to recover. Family members tell
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Speaker 1: us beron Nievez and her family had just moved to
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Speaker 1: New York from Puerto Rico a few years ago. The
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Speaker 1: teenager had only been working at Burger King for the
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Speaker 1: past few months. The family is now pleading with person
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Speaker 1: responsible to turn themselves in well I can tell you
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Speaker 1: right now he's not going to turn himself in. He's
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Speaker 1: looking at a murder charge and more. Again, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Crime Stories, with me
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Speaker 1: an all star panel to make sense of what we
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Speaker 1: know right now. And two very special guests I'd like
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Speaker 1: to start with, first of all, the family friend Space
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Speaker 1: King for the victims family. Nathalie Pagan is with us
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Speaker 1: and Tina More from the New York Post with the
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Speaker 1: Police Bureau chief. Thank you so much for being with us.
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Speaker 1: To Police Bureau chief at the New York Post, Tina More, Tina,
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Speaker 1: what can you tell me about what we now happened
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Speaker 1: right now? Well, it looks like the gunman came in
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Speaker 1: early Sunday morning to the burger king and he punched
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Speaker 1: a female manager and mister whitsonmother person and pulled the gun.
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Speaker 1: Especially Las gun has been coining the gun at clerk
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Speaker 1: and as you know, who was behind the counter. And
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Speaker 1: then at some point she gave him a hundred dollars.
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Speaker 1: He walked away, but then he turned around and shot
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Speaker 1: her anyway, and it's just not clear, I really unclear
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Speaker 1: what happened, and that there's a couple of minutes, but
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Speaker 1: he's in the wind, so there's no sign of them. Photos. Really,
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Speaker 1: you can't see him in the pictures. The cups released,
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Speaker 1: so they're they're they're trying to find them. Still no
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Speaker 1: rest of it in the chief, so Tina Moore joining me,
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Speaker 1: Police Bureau chief with a New York Post. He was
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Speaker 1: wearing dark clothes and a face mask so he couldn't
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Speaker 1: be identified. But even after, even after Crystel turns over
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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bill to him, he turns back around
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Speaker 1: and shoots her dead. Yes, yes, okay to Nathalie Pagan
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Speaker 1: joining us, a dear friend of the victim's family. Nathalie,
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Speaker 1: when did Crystel's family find out what had happened? The
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Speaker 1: Metropolitan Hospital call the model on my and saw her.
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Speaker 1: Is your daughter? Two styles by dawn? And she say yes.
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Speaker 1: And she asked them if anything happened to her and
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Speaker 1: they say did and she say she okay, and they
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Speaker 1: say no. When they say no, she wake up her boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: And so she wake up her boyfriend and she said
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Speaker 1: that he started talking and when she went to him,
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Speaker 1: he was trying allah and when she saw him prying
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Speaker 1: a last she say, oh, something happened to my daughter, right,
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Speaker 1: And he said yes, and then she called me, and
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Speaker 1: then she called me, and I called the hospital and
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Speaker 1: the hospital told me that I got to bring her in.
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Speaker 1: So we went to the hospital. And they don't let
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Speaker 1: us see her that day. They don't let us recognize
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Speaker 1: the body and nothing that day. They just tell us
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Speaker 1: that they tried to do everything for her, but she
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Speaker 1: wasn't responding to Justin Bourman, former Special Victims Unit detective
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Speaker 1: joining us and he is the author of I Was Wrong,
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Speaker 1: Investigator's Battle Cry for Change and the SVU justin thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. And can you even imagine
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Speaker 1: getting that call in the middle of the night, knowing
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Speaker 1: that something's wrong, getting up in the wee morning hours,
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Speaker 1: going to the hospital and you're not allowed to see
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Speaker 1: your daughter or identify her body. You're just there. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: not what a horrific way to first off, what a
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Speaker 1: horrific thing to have happened, but what a horrific way
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Speaker 1: to find out that your daughter had passed. I'm stunned.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not best practice. That's certainly putting perfume on the pig,
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Speaker 1: justin not best practice. You say that again, just but
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Speaker 1: the mind of what went through this killer who again,
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Speaker 1: as you heard the police Bureau chief of the New
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Speaker 1: York Post state, he's quote in the win, he's on
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Speaker 1: the run, and while people are making public police for
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Speaker 1: him to turn himself in. That's not going to happen.
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Speaker 1: There's no way, no, that ain't gonna happen. To doctor
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Speaker 1: Sherry's source joining me forensic psychologists. He specializes in criminal psychology,
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Speaker 1: her book Criminal Behavior and her other book Where Law
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Speaker 1: and Psychology Intersect. Doctor Sherry Schwartz, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. I don't understand why the guy gets some money,
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Speaker 1: this little girl hands over, she's nineteen years old. He
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Speaker 1: gets some money and then turns back around and her dead. Well,
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Speaker 1: that defies logic to those of us who don't engage
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Speaker 1: in violence repeatedly. But sometimes the robbery almost in cases
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Speaker 1: like this, feels sort of incidental secondary to the violence,
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Speaker 1: that the perpetrators more interested in the violence than they
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Speaker 1: are the prophet. That's not a satisfying explanation, but we
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Speaker 1: know from researching, you know, characteristics of perpetrators that this
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Speaker 1: sometimes in these types of offenses is true. And to
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Speaker 1: Matthew Mangino, former District attorney, Lawrence County, now private attorney
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Speaker 1: and author of the Executioner's Toll, Matthew, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. This is clearly premeditated. He shows up
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Speaker 1: dressed all in dark clothing, his face covered with a weapon.
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Speaker 1: Why does it in a weapon? A gun? In burger king,
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Speaker 1: This was late at night. He waited until there was
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Speaker 1: a female unarmed on duty at the cash register, and
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Speaker 1: then he struck. There's no way this is going to
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Speaker 1: be manslaughter, much less involuntary manslaughter. This was premeditated. He
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Speaker 1: lay in wait for the right moment. Well, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean this is no question. There's no reason to kill
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Speaker 1: this young woman. I mean, he's in there, his face
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Speaker 1: is covered, He's not trying to do away with someone
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Speaker 1: who might be able to identify him. This is just
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Speaker 1: a cold blooded murder. You know, the reason cannot be
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Speaker 1: justified under any circumstances that I can imagine in this
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Speaker 1: particular gase. No, not at all. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: Ericut number four, Jessica Cunningham MC four. We now know
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Speaker 1: that Crystal Byron Nieves was that nineteen year old who
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Speaker 1: was killed during this armed robbery, and I'm told she
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Speaker 1: just started the job here at this burger King not
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Speaker 1: too long ago. Now the gate is down on the
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Speaker 1: Burger King shop because the manager says they're going to
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Speaker 1: be closed for the rest of the day. But I
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Speaker 1: want to show you some video of this scene overnight
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Speaker 1: and early this morning when investigators were combing this entire scene. Again,
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Speaker 1: this is a burger King right at one sixteenth in Lexington,
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Speaker 1: and you could see in this video the crime scene
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Speaker 1: was still blocked off here this entire corner. Police say
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Speaker 1: a man walked into that burger King with a gun
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Speaker 1: and demanded money. They say he shot Crystal, who was
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Speaker 1: behind the register at the time, and then shoved and
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Speaker 1: pistol whipped a female manager who was also working and
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Speaker 1: the customer inside at the time. A worker tells me
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Speaker 1: investigators got the surveillance video they needed from inside to store,
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Speaker 1: but says the suspect was fully masked and was wearing
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Speaker 1: gloves as well. Masks and gloves. This was premeditated. It
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Speaker 1: was a spur of the moment incident. Prime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, we also know that this young girl,
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Speaker 1: just nineteen years old, family had moved from Puerto Rico
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Speaker 1: to quote seek a better life for the team girl
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Speaker 1: in the United States hadn't been here all the job
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Speaker 1: but for about three weeks when she is gunned down
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Speaker 1: by a masked assailant after he gets the money, and
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Speaker 1: as doctor Sherry Schwartz was pointing out, it's not about
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Speaker 1: the money. He did this for the joy of killing someone,
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Speaker 1: the pure joy of killing someone. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our cut three from ABC seven You Know over the
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Speaker 1: man suspected in a deadly armed robbery at a Burger
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Speaker 1: King and East Harlem cameras recorded the suspect in all
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Speaker 1: black waving a gun around this morning at about one
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Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixteenth Street and Lexington Avenue. Police
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Speaker 1: say the suspect opened fire behind the restaurant counter, fatally
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Speaker 1: shooting nineteen year old cashier Crystal Bayron Jeves. Police say
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Speaker 1: the suspect also punched a manager in the face and
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Speaker 1: pistol whipped a customer. The shooter ran away with an
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Speaker 1: unknown amount of cash. This is what is bizarre, almost eerie,
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Speaker 1: straight out to doctor Michelle Dpree, forensic pathologist, former medical examiner,
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Speaker 1: detective author, ab homicide investigation field guide dodgor G Pree,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how often you have seen this, but
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Speaker 1: seen it quite often, and it's extremely odd. It's not
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Speaker 1: anything that bears any weight in front of a jury,
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Speaker 1: or it's not pro but it doesn't prove anything. But
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Speaker 1: I find it very very coincidental. We learned from her
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Speaker 1: family that this young girl, nineteen year old Kristen Crystal,
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Speaker 1: had asked for additional security. She was afraid working at
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Speaker 1: the burger king there. She had asked for security. She
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Speaker 1: was afraid when she would leave day shift, and she
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Speaker 1: had asked the manager to move her off the night shift,
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Speaker 1: and the manager had done that. The rub is the
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Speaker 1: new schedule was not supposed to start until that Friday,
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Speaker 1: and this happened just a couple of days before her
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Speaker 1: new schedule started. To you, doctor Michelle Dupree, have you
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Speaker 1: ever seen cases where the murder victim seemingly had a
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Speaker 1: ammunition that something terrible was afoot, Nancy, I certainly have.
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Speaker 1: I've often taught to family members or friends of a
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Speaker 1: loved one who has passed in a violent manner like this,
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Speaker 1: and they often have, almost as you said, a premonition.
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Speaker 1: They're afraid of something that they don't know exactly what,
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Speaker 1: and they may ask for additional security, or they may
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Speaker 1: say they feel like they're being watched, but this is
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Speaker 1: not uncommon. To Nathalie Pagan joining Us a very close
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Speaker 1: friend of the victim's family. I understand that Crystal and
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Speaker 1: her fourteen year old little brother and her mom had
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Speaker 1: moved from Puerto Rico here for a better life for
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Speaker 1: the two teen children. That she had completed her ged,
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Speaker 1: gotten her high school diploma on her own, and was
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Speaker 1: working to save money to buy a car. Is this true? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Did you know? Did her mother know, Nathalie that she
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Speaker 1: was afraid. No, we never knew about nothing that she
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Speaker 1: was feeling afraid and nothing. That's interesting because other sources
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Speaker 1: have stated to Utena Moore joining to The New York
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Speaker 1: Post that she was afraid working there, that she had
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Speaker 1: told family members she was afraid. She didn't want to
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Speaker 1: work at night. She wanted security when she had to
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Speaker 1: leave the building at the Burger King, and she was
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Speaker 1: so afraid she actually asked the manager to take her
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Speaker 1: off the night shift. Great she said were up to
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Speaker 1: fifty men who would be outside the store, loitering outside
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Speaker 1: the store sometimes early in the morning when she would
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Speaker 1: get done, and she said that it scared her. Book
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Speaker 1: Our reporter who spoke the family the day after. It's
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Speaker 1: just so upset that you've got a teen girl trying
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Speaker 1: her hardest in this country that we believe is the
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Speaker 1: greatest country in the world. On her own. She goes
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Speaker 1: and gets her ged after having moved here from Puerto
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Speaker 1: Rico to seek a better life. The mother's working, she's working,
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Speaker 1: the little brother is in school. She begs for more security.
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Speaker 1: And now this the tip line to catch Crystal's killer.
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Speaker 1: What a senseless waste of human life. Eight hundred five
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Speaker 1: seven seven tips eight hundred five seven seven eight four
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Speaker 1: seven seven. There was also a go fund me It's
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Speaker 1: Crystal Nieves victim of one hundred and sixteenth Street Burger
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Speaker 1: King shooting. Take a listen now to Kyron Dillon our
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Speaker 1: cut two from CBS two. Shooting is unacceptible harding. Her mother,
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Speaker 1: along with family members, were unable to contain their grief
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Speaker 1: as they were comforted by members of the community. Girl
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Speaker 1: Chaplain Robert Race. The family is now in morning. I
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Speaker 1: was with the mother all night. I pray with the family.
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Speaker 1: Or they're not doing well. This mother is claying out,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. This mother is hurting, She's
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Speaker 1: hurting because now she's don't know what to do. The
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Speaker 1: violence has left neighbor shaken. More police officers and security
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Speaker 1: yards all around the stores around here because people are dangerous,
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Speaker 1: you know, in my mind, team to more. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: the sentiment, but blah blah blah screaming into a bullhorn.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything. The relaxed bail reform
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Speaker 1: rules where hardened criminals basically give a fingerprint and walk
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Speaker 1: out the front door. Gun violence is rampant. You heard
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Speaker 1: this little girl afraid because there would be forty to
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Speaker 1: fifty homeless people guys men outside the door of the
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Speaker 1: burger king when she would try to leave. Of course
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Speaker 1: she's afraid, But why why is it degenerating like this?
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are trying to figure
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Speaker 1: this out right now. I mean, there are definitely some
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Speaker 1: low level of crime people are not going to jail
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Speaker 1: or anymore. There's some good readers for that. But also
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Speaker 1: this is the result and one of the big problems
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Speaker 1: with mental health, and there's not an arm really to
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Speaker 1: deal with that. There's no program in place. Well, can
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Speaker 1: I ask you something, do we have any any evidence?
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Speaker 1: Even Sintila A scrap a shred of evidence. Tina more
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Speaker 1: to suggest the guy that was dressed all in black,
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Speaker 1: covering his face, wearing gloves, goes into the burger cane
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Speaker 1: when it's a lone female at the cash at the
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Speaker 1: cash register, wait till it's late at night, with the
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Speaker 1: cover of darkness. Clearly premeditated, pre plans. It any suggestion
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Speaker 1: at all that he had a mental illness, because he
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Speaker 1: sounds pretty calm and cool and collected to me, clearly
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Speaker 1: a cold blooded killer. I was talking about the fifty
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Speaker 1: guys outside the restaurant I find in the corner. I
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Speaker 1: live in the area. I know that some of them men,
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Speaker 1: thought some of them are mentally ill. But this guy, no,
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Speaker 1: you don't think that a full blooded killer. According to
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Speaker 1: the family, a young man who stopped by to see
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Speaker 1: her at the restaurant and bring her a flower almost nightly,
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Speaker 1: was there when she was killed. His heart broken. The
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Speaker 1: family's heart broken. What if anything is going to be done?
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Speaker 1: Well on our end, we can try to catch her killer,
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Speaker 1: but it is up to the district attorney, who was
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Speaker 1: soft on crime, the new head of police there, to
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Speaker 1: do something about it, not just sit by and let
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Speaker 1: Crystal's life be taken in vain? Are they going to
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Speaker 1: do something about it? Sadly, I don't know if they
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Speaker 1: are or not. How many dead bodies will it take
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Speaker 1: before they wait up and realize what's happening around them?
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Speaker 1: Will it take somebody that's in their inner circle to
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Speaker 1: be gunned down like this before they feel the pain
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Speaker 1: that other families are feeling? Right now, take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut five. This is Jessica Cunnington NBC four.
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Speaker 1: The crime scene unit spent about seven hours inside the
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Speaker 1: burger king gathering photos and other evidence. But I did
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Speaker 1: speak with one neighbor who says he comes to this
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Speaker 1: burger king all the time, and he brought this white
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Speaker 1: candle here, left it right outside the door to honor
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Speaker 1: the victim, who says she just started working here just
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Speaker 1: about a week ago, ninety years old. I woke up
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Speaker 1: seeing it on my phone and decided to ring it
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Speaker 1: candle down. I got the white candle, regulative piece. She
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Speaker 1: didn't deserve what she got. We just need to get
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Speaker 1: do something about the valance. It's going on right now
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Speaker 1: really just so sad and investigators at this moment looking
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Speaker 1: for the shooter right now, but also it seems that
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Speaker 1: employees are people just trying to come to this burger
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Speaker 1: king and are being let in by other employees just
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Speaker 1: to be together and to console each other. Again the
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Speaker 1: manager here telling me they are closed for the rest
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Speaker 1: of the day. A nineteen year old girl dead Prime
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace nineteen years old. Do we never learn?
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Speaker 1: It seems like yesterday the mass killing of employees at
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Speaker 1: Wendy's and the same jurisdiction. Listen to our friend could
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Speaker 1: be one, Mary Murphy Picks eleven forty twelve. Main Street
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Speaker 1: is eerily quiet during the pandemic by Benjamin Nazario always
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Speaker 1: avoids it. I walk when I go there. I want
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Speaker 1: go Shuttle Street twenty years ago forty twelve was the
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Speaker 1: site of Wendy's, the place where Nazario's brother ramone and
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Speaker 1: six co workers were shot execution style and a basement
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Speaker 1: freezer and many were ready close during a robbery planned
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Speaker 1: by former assistant manager John Taylor. Taylor and accomplished Craig
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Speaker 1: Gadino took the E train to Jackson Heights and the
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Speaker 1: seven to Main Street. John Taylor blamed the shooting Zangadino.
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Speaker 1: I would like the Taylor polygraph. I'll tell you right now,
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Speaker 1: because I did not shoot any of those victims in there,
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Speaker 1: but survivor Jakwan Johnson, just eighteen, then recovered from partial
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Speaker 1: paralysis to testify against Taylor. Johnson saw what happened with
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Speaker 1: his right eye. I still think about my friends all
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Speaker 1: the time, and I gotta live with that for the
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Speaker 1: rest of my life. And Taka listening into Mary Murphy
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Speaker 1: our cut b too. John Taylor was the last person
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Speaker 1: on New York's death row. In two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals ruled the capital punishment law was unconstitutional.
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Speaker 1: We're more than three hundred twenty miles from Main Street,
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Speaker 1: Flushing and those looming thirty foot concrete walls you see
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Speaker 1: behind me surround the Clinton Correctional Facility, a maximum security
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Speaker 1: prison where the mastermind of the Wendy's robbery and mass
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Speaker 1: shooting now lives his days without any chance of parole.
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Speaker 1: Oh what I supposed feel sorry for him? He murdered,
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Speaker 1: mass murder, He murdered multiple people for what what was
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Speaker 1: in the teal at a Wendy's. To Tina Moore joining
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Speaker 1: me from the New York Post, do we never learn?
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Speaker 1: I got to pay for three hots and a cop
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Speaker 1: for this guy after a mass murder at a Wendy's,
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Speaker 1: and now it's happening all over again. Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's still in jail, sar As, I know, still in prison. Correct,
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Speaker 1: he's in prison. But he's a lie and they're not.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like people. I feel, Tina, that
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Speaker 1: these fast food restaurants are an easy target. And I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you why because very often, like me, you have
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Speaker 1: very young, inexperienced people working as cashiers on McDonald's, at Windy's,
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Speaker 1: at my sandwich shop I told you about, and they're
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Speaker 1: sitting ducks. They're easy prey for coal blooded predators, Tina.
23:29
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that these change should be
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Speaker 1: thinking about who they're scheduling and when Why is the
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Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl scheduled on the overnight shift they're
23:36
Speaker 1: exact play the movie, continue to do that shift. I don't.
23:39
Speaker 1: I don't understand that nobody's really questioned that yet. That's
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Speaker 1: actually a really good, first positive thought, something that we
23:45
Speaker 1: can do to make a difference. And not only that.
23:48
Speaker 1: When you said that, I thought about mandatory security guard
23:54
Speaker 1: and these fast food restaurants when they're open late at night,
23:57
Speaker 1: because we all know, and it's not just anecdotal, is
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Speaker 1: statistical that most the majority of these type murders and
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Speaker 1: robberies do happen in the cover of darkness. Now that's
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Speaker 1: something that can be changed for the positive. Teama more
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Speaker 1: joining us from the post, you know, senseless killings over
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Speaker 1: what this was one hundred dollar bill to doctor Sherry Schwartz.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that predators prey on Well, obviously they do,
24:26
Speaker 1: whether it is intentional or it's subconscious on people that
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Speaker 1: are inexperienced, like teens working at cash registers. Oh, absolutely,
24:35
Speaker 1: without a doubt. And what the data would suggest is
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Speaker 1: that this is somebody who's familiar with that area who
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Speaker 1: would know when Crystal shift was, you know, would know
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Speaker 1: that she was potentially would maybe see her going in
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Speaker 1: and out of the restaurant. And you know that theory
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Speaker 1: cons that you show body language wise when you're interacting
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Speaker 1: with these fifty or so homeless men outside. So this
25:03
Speaker 1: is somebody who likely knew that and chose that time
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Speaker 1: and her shift on purpose to tain No more. What's
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Speaker 1: the latest in trying to find her killer. Oh, I
25:12
Speaker 1: talked to the police this morning and there's still no arrests.
25:15
Speaker 1: As far as I know, they don't have anybody in custody.
25:17
Speaker 1: There are a couple of rewards out for him. Maybe
25:21
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. You know that happened with stupid criminals.
25:24
Speaker 1: They talk about their crimes and then someone turns them
25:26
Speaker 1: in for the money. So that that's a possibility. I'm
25:29
Speaker 1: sure I would imagine police. I hope that happens. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think you're right again, Tina More joining us the
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Speaker 1: New York Post because it's really hard for criminals to
25:37
Speaker 1: keep the pie holes shut. So if he brags to
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Speaker 1: anyone and it gets back, that's at least a lead.
25:43
Speaker 1: Another senseless killing at fast food. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: the La Taco Bell case our cut ten. This is
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Speaker 1: Joy Benedict at k CAL. We are told a Taco
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Speaker 1: Bell employee lost his life simply doing his job. It
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Speaker 1: happened here this Taco bell behind me in South Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: You can see over the left hand side that drive
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Speaker 1: through window is all shot up. We are told that
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Speaker 1: is where someone in the drive through simply open fire inside,
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Speaker 1: killing the forty one year old worker. Take a look
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Speaker 1: at this video from last night at all half about
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Speaker 1: eleven pm. That's when investigators say someone had come through
26:19
Speaker 1: the drive through they placed an order. When they pulled
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Speaker 1: up to the window, investigators say that individual in the
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Speaker 1: vehicle attempted to hand that employee some sort of a
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Speaker 1: counterfeit bill. The employee refused to take it and then
26:32
Speaker 1: declined them service, and that is when we are told
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Speaker 1: that individual pulled out a gun and fired numerous shots
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Speaker 1: through the window of the drive through of the Taco
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Speaker 1: Bell and unfortunately shot and killed that worker inside. We
26:44
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of information about the man who
26:46
Speaker 1: died here. We just know that he was forty one
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Speaker 1: years old. He worked here at this Taco Bell and
26:51
Speaker 1: he was working that drive through window last night when
26:54
Speaker 1: all of this took place. I can tell you something
26:56
Speaker 1: else about him. He lost his life and we're a
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Speaker 1: twenty dollar our counterfeit bill, a fake bill. I can
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Speaker 1: tell you this. Working alongside him that night at the
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Speaker 1: drive through, his teen boy son sees dad gun down.
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Speaker 1: You don't think that's gonna be in his mind the
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Speaker 1: rest of his life. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: eleven our friends at Fox eleven. Family has identified the
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Speaker 1: victim as forty one year old Alejandro Garcia. They say
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Speaker 1: that he was a family man, a father of three,
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Speaker 1: and a hard worker. He worked at the taco bell
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Speaker 1: one night out of the week to provide for his family,
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Speaker 1: and now his family is mourning his death. Are you
27:39
Speaker 1: a hard working man, a family man? And for him?
27:42
Speaker 1: Just do hey? Do? Horrible? Horrible and inconceivable. Nancy Dell
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Speaker 1: Soul's cousin, forty one year old Alejandro Garcia, was shot
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Speaker 1: and killed on the job at a taco bell Saturday
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Speaker 1: night in South la He was working the evening shifts
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Speaker 1: alongside his nineteen year old son. The way there you
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Speaker 1: go in front of you fun. It was really really
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Speaker 1: promoting experian for a nephew, you know. To you, Justin
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Speaker 1: boardman joining us former Special Victims Unit Detective Justin. I
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Speaker 1: remember my dad working the swing shift, or so he
28:22
Speaker 1: called it. I guess it was the third trick, and
28:26
Speaker 1: he would get in work all night for the railroad
28:30
Speaker 1: and get in early the next morning as we weren't
28:35
Speaker 1: leaving for school sometimes to do the second trick, and
28:38
Speaker 1: him beginning home at midnight, just working so hard to
28:43
Speaker 1: put us through school and to pay for the house
28:46
Speaker 1: payment and the car payment. And it's just devastating alike
28:51
Speaker 1: in this case with Crystal, people trying to make a
28:55
Speaker 1: better life for themselves and their family just gunned down
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Speaker 1: over what one hundred dollars out of the register twenty
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Speaker 1: dollars counterfeit bill. I don't get it. Justin I wish,
29:08
Speaker 1: I wish I had all the answers. I don't either.
29:10
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Certainly they need to be wiped
29:13
Speaker 1: out the streets and put away. And you know what
29:19
Speaker 1: kills me the most about this is these these you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: regular joes that are really trying hard to make ends meet,
29:28
Speaker 1: try to do things for their family, work in extra
29:30
Speaker 1: shift a week at a Taco Bell, to save some money,
29:34
Speaker 1: to go do fun things with their family, and to
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Speaker 1: die over a stake twenty dollar bill over a taco.
29:41
Speaker 1: Somebody basically was killed over a taco. Insane. Insane over
29:47
Speaker 1: a taco. Yes, you're right. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: to you, doctor Michelle Duprey dupre joining US medical examiner
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Speaker 1: doctor Dupree. In the case of Crystal and in the
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Speaker 1: case that we're talking about right now, the Taco Bell case,
30:23
Speaker 1: how long would the victims have survived? I mean, I
30:27
Speaker 1: don't think Crystal was alive when she got to the hospital,
30:30
Speaker 1: and I know that the father at Taco Bell died
30:36
Speaker 1: with it bled out in his son's arms. Well, Nancy,
30:39
Speaker 1: that's a very good question. Of course, it depends on
30:41
Speaker 1: where the injury occurred, how serious it was. But oftentimes
30:46
Speaker 1: it's really within minutes, which is fortunate. Do you know
30:50
Speaker 1: what's happening. Do you lose consciousness? Do you just black
30:53
Speaker 1: out or do you know you're dying? Eventually? Of course
30:57
Speaker 1: you do lose consciousness, and the time depends on again
30:59
Speaker 1: how nificant bandary is. But yes, typically you do know
31:03
Speaker 1: you're dying. To Matthew Mangino joining us former prosecutor, the
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Speaker 1: district attorney and Lawrence County now private attorney and author,
31:12
Speaker 1: it just seems to me like the same thing happens
31:15
Speaker 1: over and over and over. We elect politicians to do something,
31:21
Speaker 1: not just live off our tax money. Yeah, I agree.
31:24
Speaker 1: And you know the question here, Nancy, is the common
31:30
Speaker 1: denominator here is guns. I mean, we can't ignore this.
31:34
Speaker 1: We've talked about Burger King and Wen Days and talk
31:37
Speaker 1: O Bell, all tragic incidents, all people who were gunned down.
31:42
Speaker 1: You know, how do we get these guns out of
31:45
Speaker 1: the hands of people who shouldn't have them, people who
31:49
Speaker 1: are going to use those to commit crimes, to murder people.
31:53
Speaker 1: You know, whether this was a premeditated murder that occurred
31:58
Speaker 1: in Burger king or whether this was a robbery that
32:01
Speaker 1: went awry. Um, the common denominator is guns. Uh. You know,
32:06
Speaker 1: I if those guys in the in the vehicle who
32:09
Speaker 1: were arguing about a counterfeit twenty dollars bill didn't have guns,
32:14
Speaker 1: no one would have been harmed inside the inside of
32:17
Speaker 1: the um tacolo bell I mean you have You can't
32:22
Speaker 1: throw a knife through the window of a drive through
32:27
Speaker 1: to kill somebody. It's the guns that are creating the havoc.
32:30
Speaker 1: And gun violence is rising in major cities across the country,
32:34
Speaker 1: you know, in Philadelphia and Indianapolish in New York. And
32:39
Speaker 1: then the other thing that that very concerning is the
32:43
Speaker 1: clearance rates. And you as as as a prosecutor, know
32:46
Speaker 1: what the clearance rates are. You know how important that is.
32:50
Speaker 1: Are we solving these crimes? And right now? Uh, you
32:53
Speaker 1: know one and two homicides goes unclear in this country.
32:58
Speaker 1: So that means that one out of every people who
33:00
Speaker 1: commit a murder are still walking the streets and these
33:04
Speaker 1: people are armed. You know, how do we go about
33:06
Speaker 1: getting those guns out of the hands of people who
33:10
Speaker 1: are going to use them to hurt other people? You know?
33:13
Speaker 1: N Tina More joining US Police Bureau chief at the
33:15
Speaker 1: New York Post. Knowing what you know, knowing what I know,
33:20
Speaker 1: those of us that are in the business of crime,
33:24
Speaker 1: it haunts me. For instance, fighting pull up at a
33:27
Speaker 1: red light, especially if I have my twins in the car.
33:30
Speaker 1: I look over with what Matthew Mangina's just said, ringing
33:35
Speaker 1: in my ears. One out of two homicides not solved.
33:39
Speaker 1: I look around in the red light. I think, hey,
33:41
Speaker 1: who's that? Are they out on parole? It's very disconcerting
33:47
Speaker 1: knowing what we know, Tina More, it is. It's it's
33:51
Speaker 1: a bit scary right now in the city. But I
33:54
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to I'm probably gonna get
33:56
Speaker 1: myself a trouble for saying this because I have an
33:57
Speaker 1: office at police headquarters where I work every day. But
34:01
Speaker 1: where we're the police, I mean, they're they're supposed to
34:04
Speaker 1: be a deterrent. They're supposed to be in the area
34:06
Speaker 1: there's supposed to be around. They're supposed to be in
34:08
Speaker 1: their cars driving around the neighborhood and on foot patrol.
34:11
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure they're around enough. Well, isn't it
34:15
Speaker 1: show the police force has been cut back? Right? And
34:18
Speaker 1: then you have COVID too, which is there are people out?
34:21
Speaker 1: I mean, hasn't the police force been cut back? The
34:24
Speaker 1: defund the police movement? Yeah? Yeah, Well I guess that's
34:28
Speaker 1: where they are. They got defunded. That was a heck
34:32
Speaker 1: of an idea that it is certainly backfired. When Tina
34:37
Speaker 1: Moore was talking Matthew Mangino justin talking about all across
34:42
Speaker 1: the country they're ride Take a listen, we're heading out
34:46
Speaker 1: to Orlando. Are cut twelve from ABC eleven. Family friend
34:50
Speaker 1: Tammy Tillman Edwards was overcome with emotion speaking about twenty
34:54
Speaker 1: two year old Desmond Joshua Junior, who was shot and
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Speaker 1: killed Saturday while working at the Burger King drive through one.
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Speaker 1: Orange County Sheriff's deputy say it started Saturday night at
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Speaker 1: this Burger King on East Colonial after a woman was
35:14
Speaker 1: upset about the drive through line taking too long. The
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Speaker 1: arrest affidavit says the woman got a refund and left,
35:20
Speaker 1: but came back a few minutes later. With a man
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Speaker 1: driving a work truck with an SGL logo on it.
35:26
Speaker 1: They go on to say the driver, identified as Kelvis
35:29
Speaker 1: Rodriguez Dormis, demanded to fight Joshua Junior. A fight between
35:33
Speaker 1: the two broke out. The report states the suspect was
35:36
Speaker 1: heard saying, you got two seconds before I shoe you.
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Speaker 1: Joshua Junior was shot and killed. Deputy say Rodriguez Dormez
35:44
Speaker 1: and the woman drove off to a house about two
35:46
Speaker 1: miles away on Ventana Lane. They were found and detained.
35:51
Speaker 1: Did I understand that correctly, Jackie? Did they actually murder
35:57
Speaker 1: someone because it took too long with their fast food? Yes,
36:00
Speaker 1: they got angry senseless murders. Now, this is a recent
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Speaker 1: one that has really broken my heart. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut six our frans at Katie RK ABC Humble.
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Speaker 1: Police say surveillance video shows Colladro Duenyes, walking towards Chucky
36:20
Speaker 1: Cheese with his daughter's birthday cake when the suspect drove
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Speaker 1: the wrong way down a row of parking spots and
36:26
Speaker 1: almost hit the father of two. The two exchanged words
36:30
Speaker 1: and then a witness told police they heard three gunshots.
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Speaker 1: My six year old saw you lying on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four year old Duenna has died at the hospital.
36:38
Speaker 1: A short time later, My daughter Jake and to have herfurging.
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Speaker 1: Now my kids don't have their dad. Really really, police
36:46
Speaker 1: didn't really roths these guys. Two days Humble Police are
36:49
Speaker 1: still investigating. The suspect has not been caught. He was
36:52
Speaker 1: said to be driving a black Ford car as of
36:56
Speaker 1: right now, this young dad carrying the birthday cake and
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Speaker 1: for his six year old little girl, no arrest. This
37:04
Speaker 1: is what we know. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: Akhou eleven. The Humble Police Department says Duenez was in
37:11
Speaker 1: the parking lot carrying a birthday cake when a young
37:14
Speaker 1: man driving the wrong way down the parking lot lane
37:17
Speaker 1: had words with Duenne's in the parking lot. They say,
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Speaker 1: the suspect pulled out a gun and shot Duennas they
37:23
Speaker 1: tell us, a suspect led an affordy vehicle. I don't
37:26
Speaker 1: understand how someone can do something to somebody like that
37:29
Speaker 1: when he was walking with a cake. Wodesi says she
37:33
Speaker 1: hopes police can soon find the person responsible. I just
37:37
Speaker 1: hope that you know, he's found quickly and then for
37:40
Speaker 1: the safety of the community as well. Because if he
37:42
Speaker 1: did this to my husband, I'm being imagined he could
37:44
Speaker 1: do this to anybody else. She's right, he could. I
37:48
Speaker 1: don't get it. I think I need a shrink on this.
37:50
Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Sherry Schwartz forensic psychologists joining us
37:53
Speaker 1: at panther mitigation dot com or Sherry Senseless killings over
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Speaker 1: what this dad's carrying a birthday cake, a counterfeit twenty
38:05
Speaker 1: a late bag of tacos, I mean murder over a
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Speaker 1: taco what's happening? Well, So, for an example, the case
38:16
Speaker 1: of the dad carrying the birthday cake and almost seemingly
38:19
Speaker 1: like road rage, right because he almost hits the dad,
38:21
Speaker 1: and the dad gets mad and they have words and
38:23
Speaker 1: then he inflicts this violence. These your characteristics of statistic
38:27
Speaker 1: personality where you intend to harm somebody, right, this is
38:31
Speaker 1: not a question mark. You intended to harm, and so
38:33
Speaker 1: you did harm. And this is somebody who lacks regret.
38:37
Speaker 1: They failed to take responsibility. They derive pleasure, they enjoy
38:40
Speaker 1: seeing other people hurt. They're going to have the last words,
38:45
Speaker 1: so to speak to Nathalie Pagan, the family friend of
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Speaker 1: Crystal nivis, how is Crystal's family right now? Is Betty
38:58
Speaker 1: painful what they going through because she moved, She moved
39:04
Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico to pay her kids out of the
39:06
Speaker 1: violence in Puerto Rico. For this to happen here, they
39:10
Speaker 1: came like seven They came like seven years ago, like
39:13
Speaker 1: looking for a real life and I just came to
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Speaker 1: pick her mother off. We're gonna go buy her the
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Speaker 1: dress for the viewing. And it's hard, it's really hard.
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Speaker 1: Tip Line one eight hundred and five seven seven Tips
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crumb story signing off Goodbye friend,