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Huddle Up | Jaguars' 2026 Rookie Minicamp, OTAs Preview · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Jaguars. Senior writer John Osher, NFL network
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  Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Chadwick bring you the latest storing yours Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky.
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  Speaker 2: Brooks, JP Shadwick with John o'sher.
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  Speaker 3: We're at the Hundai Studios the Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles, California, and the off
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  Speaker 3: season continue is gonna be back with you guys in Bucky.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, How are you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good? What's going on? Guys?
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  Speaker 5: I'm really excited. It's my favorite time of year. We're
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  Speaker 5: about to have some cleats in the grass. We got
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  Speaker 5: Ricky Minicamp coming up. We got OTA's on the horizon,
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  Speaker 5: and it culminates with that, you know, that last veteran
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  Speaker 5: mandatory mini camp where we get to track completions and
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  Speaker 5: throws and reps and begin to speculate on who's who
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  Speaker 5: in WES, what and how it's gonna play out to
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  Speaker 5: impact to twenty twenty six regulars season.
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  Speaker 2: Cleats in the ground, be where your feet are. Job.
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  Speaker 6: He's talking with the excitement of somebody who doesn't have
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  Speaker 6: to go.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna beat it. I'll beat it right there,
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  Speaker 4: looking at all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com. He'll be checking out the free here
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  Speaker 2: this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Buck Yeah, big old floppy hat, making sure that I
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  Speaker 5: don't get too much sun exposure, just the right amount
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  Speaker 5: of vitamin D.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be good. I'm excited about all of it.
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  Speaker 6: I question whether that's true'll.
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  Speaker 3: Be following John's writing and all the interviews, so I
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com from is the cover of his living
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  Speaker 3: room right here.
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  Speaker 6: As much as I pretend and play the game of
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  Speaker 6: not being excited about Rookie Minnie Camp. I'm not head
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  Speaker 6: over here's at Rocky Minni Caamp. But there are some
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  Speaker 6: guys I'm looking forward to seeing, so I am not.
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  Speaker 6: It will be an interesting to watch for the hour
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  Speaker 6: that we're allowed to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we've seen rookie mini camps since so many different
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  Speaker 3: iterations over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, back in the olden days of twenty fifteen, they
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  Speaker 3: had true eleven on eleven work.
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  Speaker 2: They would bring in workout guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's when Dante Faller tore his knee up in his
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  Speaker 3: first rookie minting camp practice. Then, of course Gus Bradley
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  Speaker 3: went away from that any on field stuff at all.
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  Speaker 2: Last year.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like, Okay, we're just gonna get to the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and figure out what a cadence is.
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  Speaker 3: In the NFL, they're teaching, you know, at the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage play in the league because everything in college
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  Speaker 3: is clapping for the snap and everything, so they wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even really run plays.
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  Speaker 6: They would just do that, and that's exactly what it
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  Speaker 6: should be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that feels like the right kind of fit
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you gotta explain to me.
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  Speaker 5: So the bridge is breaking the huddle, We're coming to
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  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, and once we get to the
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  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, we're not doing anything.
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  Speaker 4: We just break line up, get out, go back those things.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they were doing last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so I've heard that approach, and this is funny.
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  Speaker 4: It goes way back.
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  Speaker 5: I remember Tom Cable when he took over the Raiders
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  Speaker 5: one time he talked about just going through. They would
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  Speaker 5: take the first three steps and get out of there.
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  Speaker 5: I know Robasala up down the road at our villain.
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  Speaker 5: The villain is Tennessee Titans. They weren't allowing their top
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  Speaker 5: guys to do anything because he still scarred from the
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  Speaker 5: Dante Fowler incident where he got hurt. As you guys
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  Speaker 5: talked about the first meeting, camp practice, maybe the first rep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there and not.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't roberts fault that anybody who was there.
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  Speaker 6: You don't forget the first round pick being carted off.
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  Speaker 2: No, And by the way, how about the other guys
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  Speaker 2: you have to do all the work anyway that are rookies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you draw the line.
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  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it's interesting because there is and I'm
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  Speaker 5: noticing when I'm looking at a lot of videos and clips,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sure even for ow Jaguars, there does appear
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  Speaker 5: to be a gradual indoctrination to the return to football.
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  Speaker 5: Meaning I'm looking at a lot of teams do similar stuff,
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  Speaker 5: like they're doing farmers walks, and they're doing chains of
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  Speaker 5: direction things and pulling sleds and chains and those things,
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  Speaker 5: trying to get them kind of ready to do stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but they're not fully engaged and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know what John is looking at me like that.
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  Speaker 2: You explain a farmers walk.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, farmers walk when you put like two weights in
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  Speaker 5: your hands and you just kind of walk and do
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  Speaker 5: those things, and other farmers walk, farmers carry however you
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  Speaker 5: want to define it. But that's the guys are doing that,
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  Speaker 5: and they're slowly kind of being reintroduced to the game.
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  Speaker 5: Because the one thing that you can't control, particularly when
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  Speaker 5: you get the rookies coming in, everybody's been working at
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  Speaker 5: different loads in terms of some guys we're preparing for
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  Speaker 5: Combine and Pro Day workouts, but few have been preparing
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  Speaker 5: for the rigors of Mini camp and training camp and
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  Speaker 5: those things. And because for the rookies, this is the
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  Speaker 5: longest offseason that they'll ever have, because they haven't had
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  Speaker 5: an opportunity to take a break. They went right from
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  Speaker 5: playing their final game to getting ready for All Star Games,
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  Speaker 5: getting ready to Combine.
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  Speaker 4: So now they're throwing right onto the field.
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  Speaker 5: There is I would say, the the wise decision to
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  Speaker 5: slowly bring them along because you can't overwhelm them, and
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  Speaker 5: that overwhelming approach can lead to injury. So I do
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  Speaker 5: understand trying to take care of them in some small
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  Speaker 5: degree while preparing them for what is on the horizon.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I think that's just the It just makes sense.
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  Speaker 6: Meaning you are right now in a phase of the
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  Speaker 6: off season program around here where they're not on the field.
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  Speaker 6: I mean they're on the field, but they're not doing
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  Speaker 6: eleven on eleven work anyway, not doing seven on seven.
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  Speaker 6: So it makes sense to try to get the rookies
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  Speaker 6: in first year guys into a they're not missing anything
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  Speaker 6: by not doing eleven on eleven work against each other,
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  Speaker 6: as long as they are on a pace to be
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  Speaker 6: going at the same physical exertion pace whatever when OTA
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  Speaker 6: is open on the twenty sixth, So as long as
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  Speaker 6: they're ready to go and ramp up at that point,
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  Speaker 6: that's the first draft of what they get, and then
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  Speaker 6: I'll get another draft of it in training camp. Meaning
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't make any sense to me to grind them
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  Speaker 6: out and you know, take any risk whatsoever this weekend,
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  Speaker 6: because even the veterans aren't doing that yet.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, they don't even have helmets on.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's there's time to introduce. They usually try
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  Speaker 6: to introduce the offense or the defensive schemes three times
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  Speaker 6: once during this first little weekend and then long during
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  Speaker 6: OTAs and then during training camp in the introduced it
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  Speaker 6: to everybody again. So to me, right now, it's all mental.
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  Speaker 6: There's very little you can gain physically. It's all risk
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  Speaker 6: physically at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Especially on the offensive side with how intricate and this
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  Speaker 3: offense is and pre snap and things like. Everybody's got
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  Speaker 3: to be on the same page with that. And it
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  Speaker 3: starts right now this first weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I said, first weekend, and you're right about
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  Speaker 5: making sure you get everyone on.
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  Speaker 4: The same page.
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  Speaker 5: And John talked about the three different installs that take place.
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  Speaker 5: Is the one that you have over the course of
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  Speaker 5: the off season in LTA is there's another one that
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  Speaker 5: we have once we kind of get into the camp phase,
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  Speaker 5: the mini camp phase where we kind of go through
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  Speaker 5: it and rush through it. And then there's training camp
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  Speaker 5: where we do it all over again at an accelerated
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  Speaker 5: pace to get ready for games. Before you can make
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  Speaker 5: the team, you got to know what you're doing. And
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  Speaker 5: for the young guys, it's really important that they understand
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  Speaker 5: some of the playbooks so they can kind of get
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  Speaker 5: going in the right direction and then really get used
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  Speaker 5: to the pace and the intensity of practice, And I
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  Speaker 5: know Liam always talks about the way that they practice.
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  Speaker 5: They feel like they're superpower is sometimes in their preparation
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  Speaker 5: and their process and those things. And so for a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of different guys coming from a bunch of different
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  Speaker 5: collegiate programs that are used to operating at different.
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  Speaker 4: Levels of intensity, that is the biggest part.
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  Speaker 5: Learning what we're doing and then doing it at the
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  Speaker 5: level and the standard that the Jaguars upset.
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  Speaker 6: For the young guys, Bucky, this may seem like a
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  Speaker 6: silly question that that's what I do.
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  Speaker 2: So he's a pro.
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  Speaker 6: Is Liam's offense? You know, I'm assuming Trevor and the
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  Speaker 6: veterans would never come in here and say they got it,
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  Speaker 6: But they're pretty far along understanding. They've got all the
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  Speaker 6: basics at this point. They're learning nuances, you're taking things out.
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  Speaker 6: But for a young player coming in outside a quarterback,
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  Speaker 6: is it a hard offense to learn? Is it? Is
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  Speaker 6: it relatively user friendly beyond the quarterback or how would
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  Speaker 6: you define? I mean, there's all the there's all the kills.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody associates with the quarterback, but young guys coming in
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  Speaker 6: is it hard to learn?
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  Speaker 5: I think it can be hard to learn because it's
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  Speaker 5: such a different approach. I think the first part that
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  Speaker 5: makes it a challenge to learn is when you're playing
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  Speaker 5: in college. If you're used to looking at the sideline
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  Speaker 5: and reading things off the placards and the signals and
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  Speaker 5: those things, you're used to not huddling up, and so
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  Speaker 5: what it is it's kind of visual process. And so
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  Speaker 5: you see the sign that didn't trigger something in responseor
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  Speaker 5: like hey, I'm about to run this route or I'm
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  Speaker 5: about to do display and those things. When you get
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  Speaker 5: in the hall and everyone is surrounded at value and
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  Speaker 5: you hear let's go h Trey Wright red thirty three
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  Speaker 5: X shell across Z dig hammer kill, run ninety eight
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  Speaker 5: handoff solid. Well, now you got all these words, and
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  Speaker 5: that's not a visual trigger. So you're trying to stay
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  Speaker 5: focused on, well, what words do I need to hear
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  Speaker 5: at my position to tell me exactly what I'm doing?
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  Speaker 5: And oh, there's a kill to it. That means I
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  Speaker 5: also have to remember the last part of the play.
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  Speaker 5: So when Trevor comes to the line and goes kill
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  Speaker 5: kill kill, Oh, now we're doing play the second play
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  Speaker 5: on that What is that play?
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  Speaker 4: What do I do on ninety eight handoff, solid time out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And we talked about last year the USh we had
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  Speaker 5: with Trevor was the wriskband. Well, Trevor's one person with
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  Speaker 5: now the other ten guys, they're not operating on the
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  Speaker 5: risk band. They have to memorize everything. So there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of rope memorization that goes along where they have
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  Speaker 5: to figure out like what am I doing, how do
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  Speaker 5: I do it? What's the adjustment? And how do I
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  Speaker 5: do all of this and play fast? That's the challenge
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  Speaker 5: for a young guy thinking about getting into the lineup
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  Speaker 5: and making contributions. How do I not only pick it up,
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  Speaker 5: but how can I pick it up in its second
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  Speaker 5: nature where now I can play at my fastest while
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  Speaker 5: doing all the things that are expected of me.
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  Speaker 3: Huddle up with Bucky Brooks, JP, Shadwick, John Osher alongside. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you guessed it, Bucky Brooks. Let's get into some of
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  Speaker 3: the players in this rookie minnie camp and who we
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  Speaker 3: are most excited to see run around and do some
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  Speaker 3: football type things.
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  Speaker 2: I think the tight ends for me, obviously, that's been
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  Speaker 2: the big storyline.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they drafted the tight end, they drafted two tight ends,
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  Speaker 3: where do they fit in the offense. What's the story
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  Speaker 3: with those guys. I'm excited to kind of see what
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  Speaker 3: that has. I don't know how much offensive line you
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  Speaker 3: can actually see in this time of year, but the
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  Speaker 3: size of him, you know.
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  Speaker 6: It'll be cool to see him big.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but you're not expects to be big.
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  Speaker 6: I'm expecting pregnant to be big because they look big
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  Speaker 6: when I see their height and wait, fine, I'm with you, JP,
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  Speaker 6: I I think I want to see poor Kircher. You're
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  Speaker 6: pretty sure he can block. I mean, if he can't block,
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  Speaker 6: then something went awry in the evaluation process. So he
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  Speaker 6: can he can block. I want to see how comfortable
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  Speaker 6: he looks going downfield catching. I talked to somebody at
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  Speaker 6: Texas A and M about him. Said he's very, very
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  Speaker 6: underrated in terms of being able to catch the ball,
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  Speaker 6: in terms of what he can do downfield. That is
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  Speaker 6: the one thing, you know. The only thing to me
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  Speaker 6: that you can really see in a underwear practice is
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  Speaker 6: whether guys can catch and move. I mean, I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: Bucky being the scout can see, Hey, Emmanuel pregnant John
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  Speaker 6: he looked great out there. Okay, yeah, okay, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but a tight ends movement I think you can see
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  Speaker 6: during practice on Saturday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, it's really clear. You talked about the tight
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  Speaker 5: ends being kind of the stars of the show. They
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  Speaker 5: will get a lot of attention because I think there's
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  Speaker 5: some natural intrigue in one. Why did Jacksonville double up
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  Speaker 5: when it came to the tight ends us in store
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  Speaker 5: for this offense with more big body pass catchers coming
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  Speaker 5: on board? So can you get a little sense of Okay,
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  Speaker 5: this one fits this role, the other one fits another role?
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  Speaker 4: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 5: As we're beginning to let our imagination kind of run
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  Speaker 5: wild with the possibilities on offense. The other thing that
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  Speaker 5: you're looking for when you talk about Emmanuel Pregnant and
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  Speaker 5: some of the offensive linemen that will come on board
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  Speaker 5: is a balance body control. What do they look like,
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  Speaker 5: what do they move like? What is their weight? How
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  Speaker 5: do they play at the weight that they come in at?
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  Speaker 5: Do we need them to gain weight or lose weight
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  Speaker 5: in terms of being able to do what we want
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  Speaker 5: to do offensively? When it comes to the defensive backs, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: we see the brakes and drives and turns and transitions. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: now we have a playbook, and so if we do
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  Speaker 5: go to some sub package things, do they have the
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  Speaker 5: capacity to understand what they may be asked to do
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  Speaker 5: if they move into another role. Some of this is
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  Speaker 5: trial and error for the coaches, trying to see how
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  Speaker 5: much they can understand and how.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone differs when it comes to their learning styles.
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  Speaker 5: And then a lot of it is, hey, let's get
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  Speaker 5: them on the grass, let's get them in an orientation.
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  Speaker 5: Let's make sure they kind of have an understanding of
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  Speaker 5: what we're asking them to do so they don't look
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  Speaker 5: out of place when the veterans come, and we can
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  Speaker 5: have the ones, the twos, and threes, and they can
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  Speaker 5: jump in with the threes and we can run a
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  Speaker 5: practice like practice should normally operate.
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  Speaker 6: I want to see Borcatry out there doing a nice
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  Speaker 6: little farmer's walkuse what I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, Well, of course that's.
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  Speaker 5: The and I'm sure you can go down there to
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  Speaker 5: the weight room any day. I'm sure we can check
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  Speaker 5: in and they're walking on the turf trying to get
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  Speaker 5: those things. Because is that as know as we're getting
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  Speaker 5: there's the three con No, it's one of the things
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  Speaker 5: that we should do as for longevity you should go
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  Speaker 5: down there and grab a couple of dumbbells and you
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  Speaker 5: should walk forty yards out forty yards back because it
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  Speaker 5: does great things for your legs, your core, your shoulders,
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  Speaker 5: your grip strength, and as we're getting older, and as
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  Speaker 5: you're sitting there trying to open up that jar pickles,
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  Speaker 5: your grip strength is everything. I don't want you to
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  Speaker 5: have to ask your son to come over and pop
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  Speaker 5: the top to open the pickles. We need your you
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  Speaker 5: need you to be strong as you're getting older in
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  Speaker 5: this world.
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  Speaker 2: I have done.
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  Speaker 6: I have done the farmers walk as part of whatever
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  Speaker 6: workout I do. I knew what Farmer's walk was in
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  Speaker 6: that I'd never heard it from a highly respected scout.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, we gotta get all this stuff, all this stuff
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  Speaker 5: we want, we want to be Look. I challenge us,
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  Speaker 5: we should be in the look if we're going to
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  Speaker 5: to say that the team is in the best condition
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  Speaker 5: of because we hit every off season. Hey man, when
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  Speaker 5: they come to camp, this is the best off season
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  Speaker 5: we ever had. This is her best shape that we've
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  Speaker 5: been in. I would like us on our side to
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  Speaker 5: be in the best shape that we possibly could be.
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  Speaker 5: We should be able to pass our own conditioning test
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  Speaker 5: and do all those things they want to do, so
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  Speaker 5: we can boldly and confidently say that we're the best
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  Speaker 5: prepared media group in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And on it, Bucky, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you I moved like a tremendous machine this weekend,
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  Speaker 3: so don't worry about my stamina.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready, man.
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  Speaker 5: I love it, man, because look, here's what I know
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  Speaker 5: about the two guys that I see on the other side.
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  Speaker 5: You guys have do vall DNA, and I just know it,
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  Speaker 5: and I just want us to be able to reflect
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  Speaker 5: it as we have those shirts. As we stand on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline, I Dovall DNA stands out all the time
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  Speaker 5: because we're the most conditioned group that is out there.
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  Speaker 5: It goes for everybody, Ki, Gabby, the whole crew, everybody.
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  Speaker 5: We're all well conditioned. Reaper behind the thing. We all
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  Speaker 5: should be right there ready to go. Padilla. I want
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  Speaker 5: Padia to be in great shape, all of it. Nay, everybody.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: We in gray shape. We're able to do those farmers
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: waltz and we're doing efficiently and effectively.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can break it down for you too. What
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: I have a question before the analyst here, and it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: something I was thinking about when we were talking about
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: twelve and thirteen personnel earlier, and we lean on Bucky
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: because he knows the exits and knows better than anybody,
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: or at least better anybody on this show. I've got
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: a lot of questions Bucky about, Hey, if they're gonna
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: be in so much twelve and thirteen, what does that
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: do in terms of personnel at wide receiver, meaning, Hey,
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: you've got Brian Thomas Junior, You've got Travis Hunter, You've
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: got guys at that position who you like and who
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: are effective. How much does it cut down their opportunities?
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: My answer has been all along. Look, teams play a
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: lot of different personnel packages. They're drafting toward this a
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: little bit so they can be good in this situation.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: But what percentage of plays is this situation?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of it depends on how the
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: defense reacts and response.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: And I will say that you have both tools in
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: the bag.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like what you're trying to do now in the
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: offseason training camp, you're trying to figure out how big
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: can we make the toolbox getting into the regular season,
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: and then when you get into the regular season, you
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: don't take the entire toolbox, but you use different tools
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: that you need per game to do it. But if
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you can have a dynamic twelve and thirteen package, you
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: want to have that on the hotprint on the call sheet.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: And there are a bunch of different ways that you
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: can use that personnel grouping to feature different people. There's
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: a world in which we live where we could have
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: thirteen personnel and the only receiver on the field is
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Jr.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Because what you can do is create advantage.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Advantage is one on one situations for him to be
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: able to do the things that he does really well.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: You also can do different groupings and feature Breton Strange
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: or Parker White or Jacoby matt There's so many different
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: things that you want to be able to do. I
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: just know that in this copycat league when people look
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: at the tape and everyone has looked heavily at the
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: LA rams and what they would do last year with
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford, I think he threw like nine or ten
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: touchdowns and no interceptions out of the grouping. Hey, how
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: can we use this? How can we put this on
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: the field? What problems does it create for the defense?
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: And defensively, you now have to have an answer to
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: all these big body tight ends being on the field.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: And we know the cyclical nature of the NFL. We
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: went from being a twenty one personnel, two backs, one
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: tight end.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: We're gonna run it down your throat.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: We're gonna play against base defense, to oh, we're gonna
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: spread it out.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: That forces the defense and the nickel.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Then defenses got to the point where we're playing nickel
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: against everything. So now the answer to that is what
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: we're seeing, Oh, you can play nickel and have two
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: high safeties back and not let us throw the ball
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: down the field where we're gonna run you out of
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: that package, or we're gonna make you defend the run
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: so we can get the big plays in the passing game.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: We're back to that. And so this is a reaction
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: to the way that the defense has reacted to some
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: of the things that teams were doing out of spread personnel.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: And I always look at this like this, jp IF
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: in the off season and even during the week. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: much of football, because you only play seventeen games, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: know so much of what we feel. And is this
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: kind of conversation because you do it, what three hundred
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: and forty eight days a year, you have seventeen game days.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: We're actually watching games for three hours. Everything else is analysis,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: So you're on the internet, you're looking at a depth chart,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you're trying to figure out. So because of that, so
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: often people look at the depth chart and they say, oh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: they're starters and the league. When you're actually watching the games,
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: do you even remember who started? It's you know, if
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: going to a twelve and thirteen personnel package allows you
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: if you got eight plays a game and it gets
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: you two first downs and one of them is when
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: you can't run the clock out against Houston. You know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: so I always say the sameing. You want to talk
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: about Travis Hunter impact on offense, Oh, well he get
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: the stats? Will he will he have fifteen hundred yards receiving?
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Well what if he has five big touchdowns?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Change minimum in the moments?
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they win you games. So that's what the league
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: is now. It's like it's like Bucky said, the clubs
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: in the bag. You want to have all those tools
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: you can take the game day and then if you
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: need that package when you're up by ten in the
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter against Houston you need a first down, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: can't get one because it's third and three. Well, now
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: you can go to that. At the end of the season,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: that package may have played five percent of the plays.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: He got you those two wins, right, they're going to
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: like the move. So anyway, that's my thought on it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: A long time ago, North Turner told me that he said,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: the league is full of specialists, and your job as
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: a coordinator is to understand how to make sure that
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: you put everybody in a position to play to their specialty.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: And some of that and some of this is about
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Liam and Grant experimenting with a bunch of different things
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: over the course of like OTAs and those things.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Because what do we have. We have like a six
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: week break.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So what they'll do is they'll put all this stuff
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: on tape, they'll look at it, they'll analyze it, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: then doing the break that we have from the end
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: of mandatory mining camp to the beginning of training camp,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: they'll sift through it and they'll be.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Like, we like this, we don't like this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: This probably needs to continue to work on because we
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: feel like we may have the potential to utilize this
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: during the regular season. But you want to throw all
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: that stuff on the wall and see what sticks. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: now you can kind of narrow your preparation process over
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: the course of training camp to make sure that people.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Get enough reps on the things that we may utilize.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And it may not be that we're going to use
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: it early in the year, but it may be something
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: that we don't get to into week seven because we're
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: playing a team the Houston Texas have shown a problem
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: against this. Look, well, we practice some of that. Now,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: let's make sure that we have it on the call
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: sheet against the Texans and those things.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: And that's what great coaches do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: They have the ability to think well down the line
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: in terms of where we may need to get to
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: just in case we have issues in those things. Think
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: about the way that we changed on offense. We thought
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that with our personnel will be his zone team, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: we ended up being more of a gap scheme team
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: or vice Versas's being able to adapt and adjust to
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: your personnel once we start playing games. But you have
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: to practice some of those concepts early so as not
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: new learning.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: In the middle of the season. It's oh, you remember, gods,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: you remember we did this, or oh, okay, coach, here
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: we are on it. So with some of that stuff,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: some of the preparation part of it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was no way that Liam was going to
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: see an offensive trend in the league. And well, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: it's funny, you know, things that are new often get criticized.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: So you're changing up a little bit. You did the
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: draft in new way, so people, oh, you can't do that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: But the Jaguars fans. Really the superpower for this team
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: right now to me is Liam's vision on offense. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, this franchise is as innovative and
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: as ahead of the curve offensively as any team in
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: the league. I mean, I'm sure they're with a group,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: but as long as Liam Cohen is here, you were
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: going to have a franchise that is not going to
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: be behind in terms of studying what's going on offensively. Well,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: if you're going to have that, that guy is occasionally
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: going to say, hey, we've got to figure out And
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: it wasn't just him, as a collective they wanted to
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: do this, but you better feed into that because his
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: play calling, his ability on game day to keep you
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: ahead of what the defense is doing, is a big
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: reason you were thirteen and four. So if you want that,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: there are times you've got to draft your personnel to
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: so I'm excited to see this.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be certainly a fun off season to see
• 24:13
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• 24:15
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• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And we should find out soon.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: By the way, the dates of those games, I think
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the schedule release has got to be probably next week, right.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: It's supposed to be next week, but now there's sort
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: of rumors I'm not sure how we're doing it might
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: get pushed back a week, so I'm not sure that
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: it actually will, but we'll see.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: So what I got that originally that we may be
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: thinking about the thirteenth being the release date, but I
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: think rumors are floating about.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe the eighteenth or nineteenth may end up being today.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Whatever it is.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm here because you know what I love more
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: than going to training camp and do anything.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I love predicting based off the schedule release.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: I there is nothing I enjoy more than predicting how
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: the league is gonna turn out and whatever. Just throwing
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Darcy saying, you know what, I got to Sninky su
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: vision of the Jaguars maybe fifteen to two, just based
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: off the way the schedule breaks. This is the hard
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: point of the season. We get passed it by. We
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: get this, We got the Europe trip. There's nothing I
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: love more than I'm looking forward to it. So hopefully
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: they'll allow me to do it next week, but if not,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: I'll just wait another week.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, we'll do We'll do
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: it on this show.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: We'll do it on this show.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Bucky nothing, There's nothing I like more about it. Like
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: John is gonna be the pessimist, like, Oh, I don't know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: it's so tough. I don't know how we're going rhyme.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, we're going win them all. We were
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the all We're going.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I'm neither a pest semester optimist when it comes to schedule,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: because I know, man, what we say predicting the schedule
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: and worrying about the schedule is it's a fool's game.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: It's a fool.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: That's so fun.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: We can predict them all. Get the T shirts all printed.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: We're going.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Love that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: We'll do that next week, maybe if the schedules out,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: or in two weeks, one of the two.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: How about that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Here's the ultimate in selling, predicting the schedule before it
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: comes out. So what's next? We're going to predict the
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: prediction of the prediction.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Predicting the opening game? Huh?
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I would I would guess on it being maybe a
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: divisional game against some one we don't like.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Or why not anybody anybody else?
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: It could be a non divisional game that could be
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: whole road.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: How great would it be? Maybe maybe us in Indie
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: to start it, or maybe US in Tennessee to started.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: We always played him at the end, something exciting, something early.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: We always get a divisional game.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Earth.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man, the schedule is gonna come out.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You know what, nobody could have predicted the Jaguars mid
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: season going on a run and the hell out of
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: teams down the stretch.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Who do we open up with Last year, it's the
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: first game was it Carolina?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Who do we open Carolina Panthers?
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: And then we play Houston at didn't play Houston.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: The hour delay where there's an hour delay during the
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: during the Carolina game.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need because of lightning.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yea, that's not fine that that's the worst.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Home or way do we play home? Or way to start?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: What do you think last year it was Carolina and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: then at Cincinnati and then home against Houston week three,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: then at San fran.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: We should have been toing of we should have been
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: to the last year to start.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: No doubt. Yeah, we was robbed, Bucky, We was robbed.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for the scheduled prediction coming on. Bucky.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, have a great day, great week, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the duvol DNA is high in this party.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: It really is really duo DNA.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Drifting overflowing Bucky Brooks, Judoser, j P. Shadwick O, thanks
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: to Britt Reebert, Joe Fortunado. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.