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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth podcast.
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Speaker 3: The I'm counting.
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Speaker 2: Addition, as the NFL Draft is now less than one
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Speaker 2: week away. Coming up, I'll visit with offensive lineman turn
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Speaker 2: broadcaster Ross Tucker about extending Joe Burrow's contract and what
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Speaker 2: else the Bengals should address prior to training camp.
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Speaker 3: We'll go inside.
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Speaker 2: The locker room and hear from Orlando Brown Junior and
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Speaker 2: Chitabey Awooja. And then it's the eighth and final edition
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Speaker 2: of our three round mock draft with an NFL expert,
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Speaker 2: end of my conversation with former NFL offensive lineman Ross Tucker.
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Speaker 2: He is the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast,
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Speaker 2: serves as an analyst on NFL radio broadcast for Westwood One,
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Speaker 2: and as a frequent guest on The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: He took time out of his jam pack schedule to
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Speaker 2: join me this week. The big news in the NFL
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Speaker 2: so far this week is Philadelphia signing Jalen Hurts to
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Speaker 2: a five year, two hundred and fifty five million dollar deal,
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Speaker 2: one seventy nine guaranteed. Do you consider that good news
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Speaker 2: or bad news for the Bengals as they try to
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Speaker 2: extend Joe Burrows.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess probably bad news, Dan. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: positive side of it would be that they've got a
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Speaker 1: structure in place that they can follow off of in
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Speaker 1: terms of what Jalen got. I guess the bad news
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Speaker 1: is the floor of whatever Joe was going to get.
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Speaker 1: I think has just Risen right, I mean, I would
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Speaker 1: be shocked if he accepted less than Jalen Hurts based
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Speaker 1: on what Joe's done the last couple of years, you know,
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Speaker 1: like anybody else, I don't think they're looking for just
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Speaker 1: a dollar more, right, I mean, I think they want
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Speaker 1: to get a decent amount more than that. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know what you guys in Cincinnati were thinking that
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Speaker 1: Joe would get, but he's going to get somewhere between
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Speaker 1: fifty two and fifty five million dollars a year now,
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Speaker 1: would be my guess.
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Speaker 3: Ross.
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Speaker 2: After the Hurt deal was announced, you tweeted out this question,
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Speaker 2: ranked the following in order of who you would most
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Speaker 2: want as your quarterback for the next five years, Lamar Jackson,
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert or Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 3: How do you answer that question?
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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing I would say, Dan is what's
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Speaker 1: so interesting about that is it's not unanimous. But there
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Speaker 1: was a heavy consensus that Lamar Jackson was last, and
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Speaker 1: a heavy consensus that Joe Burrow was first. And I'm
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Speaker 1: sure everybody in Cincinnati would agree with that, and I
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Speaker 1: think I'd probably go with that order as well. I
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Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow is probably won, although I will say
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts based on the improvement he made from year
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Speaker 1: two to year three and the running threat that he brings,
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Speaker 1: especially for short yarded situations. I think Hurts is nipping
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Speaker 1: on Joe Burrow with heels. But I mean, you know, Dan,
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Speaker 1: I was at the AFC Championship game two years ago
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Speaker 1: and interviewed Joe after that, and I was on the
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Speaker 1: sideline when the Bengals beat the Bills in the snow
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Speaker 1: this past year, and I'm just so impressed by that guy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he is he is the modern day Peyton Manning.
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Speaker 1: He's the new I mean, it felt like in that
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Speaker 1: game against the Bills that he knew where he was
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Speaker 1: going to throw the football before he even got the snap.
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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time he was getting rid of
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Speaker 1: the ball within two seconds. I was just thoroughly impressed
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Speaker 1: by Joe. So right now, I think I would go
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Speaker 1: Burrow one, Hurts two, and probably Herbert three, and then
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Speaker 1: Lamar four. But I think Herbert and Lamar are pretty close,
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Speaker 1: and you can make an argument either way.
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Speaker 2: We are visiting with Ross Tucker, the host of the
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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker Football podcast. You can follow him on social
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Speaker 2: media at Ross Tucker, NFL. You played offensive line in
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Speaker 2: the NFL for five years. I have two Orlando Brown
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Speaker 2: junior questions. Number One, how good is he as a
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Speaker 2: left tackle? Number two, what do you think of Cincinnati
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Speaker 2: signing him at the age of twenty six to a
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Speaker 2: deal that makes him the fifteenth highest paid tackle in
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Speaker 2: the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot to like there from a
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Speaker 1: Bengals perspective. Number One, I think he's an above average
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Speaker 1: starting left tackle in the NFL. He is not an
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Speaker 1: elite left tackle. I think that he believed that he
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Speaker 1: was and believed he would get paid that way. That
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Speaker 1: obviously did not happen, and I wonder if he regrets that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he turned down more money from Kansas City
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Speaker 1: a year ago than what he got this year from
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. But that's not the Bengals problem, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Bengals. That's just a positive for them, I think
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Speaker 1: in two manners two respects Dan. Number one, it's a
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Speaker 1: positive that they were able to get a player of
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Speaker 1: his caliber for less than you know, what most people
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Speaker 1: thought he would get, certainly less than what Orlando thought
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Speaker 1: he would left and he would get and he's a
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Speaker 1: very solid pass protector, and so now you know, you're
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Speaker 1: solidified with Joe Burrow's backside protector for years to come,
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Speaker 1: because that is I think what Orlando does best is
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Speaker 1: the pass pro and Joe gets rid of the ball
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Speaker 1: so quickly. Anyway, But the other thing I thought was
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Speaker 1: really nice about it. When's the last time the Bengals
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Speaker 1: sort of surprised everybody by going out and paying big
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Speaker 1: money for a free agent like this. I guess I
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Speaker 1: just really liked the mindset and the message that it
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Speaker 1: sent the entire organization, really the entire city of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of you guys were really expecting,
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Speaker 1: and it kind of felt like it came out of
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Speaker 1: left field.
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Speaker 3: I think that's fair.
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Speaker 2: And yet, if you look back over the last several years,
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Speaker 2: the Bengals have signed DJ Reader, Trey Hendrickson, Alex Kappa,
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Speaker 2: Von Bell, Mike Hilton, and others, is it time to
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Speaker 2: start thinking differently about how the Bengals approach free agency.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they have been a little bit more aggressive.
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Speaker 1: You're right in recent years. I guess the Hendrickson thing,
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Speaker 1: people would say, well, you know, they lost Carl Lawson,
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Speaker 1: so they were just paying a guy that was a
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Speaker 1: little bit cheaper. But boyle boy, did that payoff. I'll
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Speaker 1: say this Stan, they usually pay the right guys. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I love Mike Hilton. Von Bell was fantastic. You know.
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Speaker 1: We talked about hendrickson DJ Reiders a stud and that
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Speaker 1: all leads us to Tobin and the scouting department, whether
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Speaker 1: it's the draft or free agency. I just don't think
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Speaker 1: people recognize league wide just how good of a job
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Speaker 1: Tobin and the scouting department do because they hit on
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Speaker 1: a higher percentage of draft picks like a Logan Wilson.
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Speaker 1: It feels like in other teams and with their free
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Speaker 1: agents over the year, especially recently, it feels like they've
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Speaker 1: they've spent their money very wisely.
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Speaker 2: We are spending a few minutes with Ross Tucker, the
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Speaker 2: host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can follow
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Speaker 2: him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. Some of
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Speaker 2: the Bengals' biggest question marks right now include who is
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Speaker 2: the right tackle, will Joe Mixon remain their top running back?
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Speaker 2: Are they okay at safety after losing Bates and Bell?
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Speaker 2: What's at the top of your Bengals questions list?
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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about right tackle is you know, right
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Speaker 1: now they've got two options, Lyell Collins and Jonah Williams.
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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they trade Jonah Williams
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Speaker 1: during the draft to somebody else that might won him.
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Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals drafted a
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Speaker 1: right tackle or a tackle fairly high in the draft
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Speaker 1: and started to develop them behind Lyell Collins or maybe
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Speaker 1: instead of Lyell Collins. That wouldn't shock me. You know,
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Speaker 1: I thought they would find a way to keep one
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Speaker 1: of those two safeties. But you know, they got to
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Speaker 1: play Dax Hill, right, I mean, you draft him in
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Speaker 1: the first round, He's got to play. And I think
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Speaker 1: Nick Scott will be a good fit in Louisanna Rumo's defense.
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Speaker 1: I'm a big Nick Scott guy, very bright, big time hitter.
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Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of Von Bell a little bit.
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Speaker 1: So I think that they'll be okay at safety. I
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Speaker 1: really do. So. I would say none of those things
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Speaker 1: are really at the top of my list. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I guess the mixing thing is interesting, especially with them
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Speaker 1: losing p Ryan. I would expect the Bengals to draft
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Speaker 1: a running back pretty high to get in the mixed there, especially,
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Speaker 1: you know, with what's Joe's supposed to be making and
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Speaker 1: with some of the other concerns that go along with Joe,
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Speaker 1: both on the field and off the field. Although he
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Speaker 1: still looked good to me Dan in that in that
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Speaker 1: game against the Bills, I mean, in that kind of weather,
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Speaker 1: he was still pounding. Now, how much of that was
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Speaker 1: the old life, how much that was Joe, I guess
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Speaker 1: we can debate, but he was pretty effective that day,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: The Bengals have the twenty eighth pick in the first round,
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Speaker 2: assuming they stay there. Do you have a player or
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Speaker 2: a few players in mind that that would make sense
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Speaker 2: for Cincinnati?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when you look at their roster right now,
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Speaker 1: they really are in a position where I don't feel
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Speaker 1: like there's a position where they have to take somebody
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Speaker 1: right and that's where you want to be. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it could easily be O line. You can always add
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Speaker 1: people on the D line. You know, they might be
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Speaker 1: able to get their pick of the safeties if they
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Speaker 1: wanted to do that again, they might be able to
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Speaker 1: get I don't think Jon Robinson would be there. I
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Speaker 1: think they could probably get Gibbs. You know as the
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Speaker 1: second best running back. What about tight end? Tight End's
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Speaker 1: an interesting one for me there because there's a really
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Speaker 1: good draft for tight ends, and I think it's a possibility.
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Speaker 1: You know, they did sign IRV Smith. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a possibility that the Bengals could go tight end because
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Speaker 1: they realize how valuable that is to Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 2: And the IRV Smith junior deal was only for one year,
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Speaker 2: so they're definitely still in the market for a tight
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Speaker 2: end ross. I'm interested in how likable you think the
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Speaker 2: Bengals are these days. For the most part, people around
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Speaker 2: the country scene to admire Joe Burrow. It's kind of
11:24
Speaker 2: been a fun team to watch. They handled the Damar
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Speaker 2: handling situation with the utmost class. But before the AFC
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Speaker 2: Championship game, the mayor popped off. Some of the Bengals
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Speaker 2: players use the term Burrowhead instead of arrowhead. Where are
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Speaker 2: you right now? In the Bengals likability.
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Speaker 1: Very high, very high. And I'll give you a couple
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Speaker 1: of reasons for that. You know, I can tell you
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Speaker 1: right now. My daughter and her friends they really like
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Speaker 1: the Bengals, and I think Joe Burrow's the biggest reason
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Speaker 1: for that. You know. I mean there's lots of people
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Speaker 1: they love the Bangal, they talk about them, and I
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Speaker 1: live in central Pennsylvania, but they're big fans of the Bengals.
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Speaker 1: I think everybody likes Joe Burrow at this point.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: I think people like when they when a team that's
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Speaker 1: been bad for a while or hasn't been able to
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Speaker 1: break through. I think people like when they're able to
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Speaker 1: have some success like the Bengals are because other franchises,
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Speaker 1: like the Browns, the Lions, whoever, they can sort of
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Speaker 1: look at the Bengals and say, see, you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: we could do that. If we get the right quarterback,
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Speaker 1: maybe we could be the team that's in the mix
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Speaker 1: every year. So, you know, I think people are kind
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Speaker 1: of tired of the Chiefs, and I think both the
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Speaker 1: Bills and the Bengals are actually teams that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people like, good young talent, skill, the young quarterback,
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Speaker 1: and they're kind of like the latest new kids on
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Speaker 1: the block that people are excited about.
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Speaker 2: We're chatting with former offensive lineman Ross Tucker, the host
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Speaker 2: of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Mike Brown and Katie
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Speaker 2: Blackburn are Ivy leaguers. They went to Dartmouth, you went
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Speaker 2: to Princeton. Did the Bengals show any interest in your
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Speaker 2: playing days?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny that you asked that. They're the only
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Speaker 1: team that called in the draft and they called me twice.
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Speaker 1: And this is back when the Bengals were in a
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Speaker 1: bad way. But they called me in the first round
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Speaker 1: and it was assistant offensive line coach Frank Verducci and
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Speaker 1: he said, we have you ranked high on our board.
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Speaker 1: If we don't draft you, we'd like to talk with
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Speaker 1: you about maybe being a free agent. And I thought
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Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. I was trying to again him
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Speaker 1: to take me in the first round. Dan. I was like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm ready, take me now call me now, take me now,
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Speaker 1: I'm ready. And then at the time, John Garrett was
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Speaker 1: a coach for the Bengals back in two thousand and one,
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Speaker 1: so he called me on day two of the draft
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Speaker 1: and just said hi and expressed the interest that the
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Speaker 1: Bengals had. Interestingly enough, though, I don't think Paul Alexander
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Speaker 1: liked me that much because after the draft they didn't call.
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Speaker 1: They called twice during the draft, but not after the draft.
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Speaker 1: So I end up going to Washington and listen, it
14:15
Speaker 1: is an uphill battle as an undrafted free agent. You
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Speaker 1: never know how it's gonna go. It worked out for me,
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Speaker 1: and I'm very thankful to be able to be a
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Speaker 1: part of it for seven years. And so I would
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Speaker 1: have loved to have been a Bengal though, because I
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Speaker 1: love the uniforms. They're very similar to the Princeton Tigers.
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Speaker 1: And Cincinnati's just an awesome city. I have a couple
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Speaker 1: of friends and business partners that live there, and I
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Speaker 1: just think it's so cool that you can, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of live in the suburbs, but you're only eight
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Speaker 1: minutes from downtown and everything's pretty close together there with
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Speaker 1: where the Reds play and the Bengals, and whether you
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Speaker 1: live on the Kentucky side of the Ohio side, it's
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Speaker 1: an awesome city.
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Speaker 2: You said you were the two thousand and one draft,
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Speaker 2: that's right. So the Bengals took Justin Smith, Chad Johnson,
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Speaker 2: Rudy Johnson, and TJ. Hushman Zada. It's already arguably the
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Speaker 2: greatest draft in franchise history. You would have just added
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Speaker 2: to that list of great players well.
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Speaker 1: And on the offensive line, they took Victor Lava, and
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Speaker 1: I was better than him. So they could have had
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Speaker 1: up on the draft if they had taken me instead
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Speaker 1: of Victor Lava. They definitely made the right call with
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Speaker 1: Justin though. Goodness gracious, was that guy awesome? And yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad they took him and said of me in
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Speaker 1: the first round for you.
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Speaker 2: Guys, all right, final topic for Ross Tucker and I
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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. We're going to get away from football
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Speaker 2: for a second because Mother's Day is about three weeks away.
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Speaker 3: My mom is eighty five.
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Speaker 2: She loves me, but she doesn't listen to this podcast,
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Speaker 1: She won't even know what it is. She's opening it
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Speaker 3: I've got a few weeks left.
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Speaker 3: Ross. This has been fun.
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Speaker 2: Love your work, especially your weekly conversations with Greg co Sell.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some of your time today.
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Speaker 1: My pleasure. Dan, Thank you so much for reaching out.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I am highly confident that my loving
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18:30
Speaker 2: This week mark the start of the Bengals OTAs, or
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Speaker 2: organized team activities. Nearly every player on the roster is
18:37
Speaker 2: back in the locker room, but a handful of guys
18:40
Speaker 2: have already been there on a regular basis, the ones
18:44
Speaker 2: who are rehabbing in Cincinnati after having a serious injury
18:48
Speaker 2: last year. Nearly every time I've been in the stadium
18:51
Speaker 2: this offseason, I've seen Chitabey Awoojie diligently working out. He
18:56
Speaker 2: tore his right acl on Halloween night in Cleveland and
19:00
Speaker 2: had surgery about two weeks later, performed by Neil L. Aatrosh,
19:05
Speaker 2: the same doctor who operated.
19:07
Speaker 3: I'm Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 5: When I woke up from surgery, you know, the first
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Speaker 5: thing I asked him was like, you know how to go,
19:14
Speaker 5: you know, and it was like it went well and stuff.
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Speaker 5: I just remember that always because I was I was
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Speaker 5: a little I never had surgery, you know, big surgery,
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Speaker 5: and you know, to put my body in his hands,
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Speaker 5: you know, to take care of it and to make
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Speaker 5: it better. It was a little nerve wrecking. But then after,
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Speaker 5: you know, the way they explained everything, you know, he just.
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Speaker 1: Did a great job.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, he's definitely the guy when it comes to that.
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Speaker 2: Cheeto's goal is to be ready for the start of
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Speaker 2: the season, and when I've seen him hard at work
19:37
Speaker 2: at the stadium, he appears to be making excellent progress.
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Speaker 5: I mean it's pretty much legg day every day. You know,
19:43
Speaker 5: I'm lifting every day on my legs, running, jumping some
19:48
Speaker 5: for some form squad in. You know, it's pretty much
19:52
Speaker 5: daily at this point, so it doesn't really skew off
19:55
Speaker 5: of the legs. But then you know, the PT team
19:58
Speaker 5: they may add in some little wrinkles here and there,
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Speaker 5: but it's pretty much just legs. The biggest thing I
20:02
Speaker 5: could mess up on is getting too cocky, you know,
20:05
Speaker 5: because my knee is doing good, and then you know,
20:07
Speaker 5: move faster than what I need to do.
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, I haven't had.
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Speaker 5: A setback, and if I move too fast, you know,
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Speaker 5: I'll probably borring a setback to come. So I think
20:16
Speaker 5: the biggest thing is just to be patient and trust
20:17
Speaker 5: the people that are telling.
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Speaker 1: Me what to do.
20:19
Speaker 2: Two years ago and his first season with the Bengals,
20:21
Speaker 2: who wou Ja was graded is the second best corner
20:24
Speaker 2: in the NFL by Pro Football Focus, only Jalen Ramsey
20:28
Speaker 2: ranked higher. So what's his goal as he comes back
20:31
Speaker 2: from the torn ACL?
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Speaker 5: Obviously to be one hundred percent and to you know,
20:36
Speaker 5: get my body to where I'm able to improve on
20:39
Speaker 5: like my skills as a dB, you know, as a
20:41
Speaker 5: football player. You know, obviously I'm kind of training like
20:44
Speaker 5: a you know, just an athlete right now. Is just
20:46
Speaker 5: you know, getting my legs stronger, doing certain movements. So
20:51
Speaker 5: MultiMate goal is becoming a better player from last year.
20:53
Speaker 5: I feel like the past two years, I've gotten better
20:54
Speaker 5: each year, and I want my acl or you know,
20:57
Speaker 5: the injury I had to hinder that.
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Speaker 1: I want to keep growing as a player.
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Speaker 5: So next year, planning to be a better player than
21:02
Speaker 5: I was last year.
21:02
Speaker 2: The Bengals are counting on them. Following the departures of
21:05
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates and Von Bellen free agency, A Woujier and
21:09
Speaker 2: Mike Hilton are the unquestioned leaders in the secondary.
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Speaker 5: Obviously, you know, losing Justin Vaughan a free agency, it's
21:17
Speaker 5: a blow, you know, it's a blow, and it hurts emotionally,
21:20
Speaker 5: you know, and personally too because those those are like
21:22
Speaker 5: my friends, you know. So but at the end of
21:25
Speaker 5: the day, you know, this team is you know, we're
21:29
Speaker 5: primed still, you know, and we have a lot of
21:31
Speaker 5: things that are ahead of us. So we're going to
21:33
Speaker 5: pick up the ships where they left them. You know.
21:35
Speaker 5: And yeah, players that you know, we're younger now, they
21:38
Speaker 5: have to step up.
21:39
Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 5: We have to rely on one another, you know, more
21:41
Speaker 5: than ever. So it's really expected for everybody that's here
21:44
Speaker 5: to be present, to take coaching, to learn from each other,
21:47
Speaker 5: and to get better.
21:49
Speaker 2: In addition to a Woujia, the Bengals have Cam Taylor
21:51
Speaker 2: Britt back at outside corner and have added six year
21:55
Speaker 2: veteran Sidney Jones and free agency. Still, it seems highly
21:59
Speaker 2: likely to me that the Bengals will draft a corner
22:02
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Speaker 2: Orlando Brown Junior was in the locker room with his
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Speaker 2: new teammates for the first time on Monday.
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Speaker 6: I want to come in and be myself. You know,
22:31
Speaker 6: I've always been a leader everywhere I've been and you know,
22:34
Speaker 6: I love the game of football. I love everything that
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Speaker 6: it comes with men, especially during this time. It gives
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Speaker 6: you an opportunity to good that relationship with the guys.
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Speaker 4: I'm walking room.
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Speaker 2: Brown's track record speaks for itself. His peers have chosen
22:45
Speaker 2: him for the Pro Bowl in each of the last
22:46
Speaker 2: four seasons, and he says that will naturally make him
22:50
Speaker 2: one of the leaders in Cincinnati.
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Speaker 6: You know, that's the thing about football, man, is you
22:54
Speaker 6: know the office always stick out, and you know the
22:56
Speaker 6: guys that are you know, competitive and all of those things.
22:59
Speaker 6: I rushed the occasion, and that's how your respect is earned,
23:01
Speaker 6: you know, from your peers. So man, I just look
23:03
Speaker 6: forward to, you know, getting out there and being able
23:04
Speaker 6: to compete with these guys and showing who showing who
23:06
Speaker 6: I am.
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Speaker 2: Orlando is very familiar with his new team. He faced
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Speaker 2: the Bengals twice a year and three seasons of the
23:13
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and four times over the last two seasons
23:16
Speaker 2: with Kansas City, including a pair of AFC Championship games.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely interesting, man, you know, obviously being on
23:24
Speaker 6: the other side for the last few years in Baltimore
23:25
Speaker 6: and Kansas City, so it's definitely different. But I mean,
23:28
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm so happy and excited, so blessed to
23:31
Speaker 6: be a part of it. Though, you know what I
23:32
Speaker 6: mean from Afar, you know you can tell how special
23:34
Speaker 6: it is and to be able to come in and
23:37
Speaker 6: be in it, you know, ten holes, I mean, it's
23:39
Speaker 6: it's awesome.
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Speaker 2: The Bengals hope that Brown will significantly improve the pass
23:43
Speaker 2: protection for Joe Burrow and their new mammoth left tackle.
23:47
Speaker 2: Says he'll fit right in with his new offensive line teammates.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think, man, they play with a lot
23:52
Speaker 6: of fire, to be honest, a lot of finish. I
23:55
Speaker 6: feel like that's something that really stuck out to me.
23:56
Speaker 6: A lot of guys doing the little things right, jogging
23:59
Speaker 6: down to help of receivers or quarterbacks or whoever downfield,
24:03
Speaker 6: getting involved being around the ball shown up on the screen.
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Speaker 6: I feel I did do the little things right.
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Speaker 2: Brown has an ever present smile and a joyful personality.
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Speaker 2: He'll be a great addition to the Bengals locker room.
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Speaker 2: draft with an NFL expert. Here's the concept. When I
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Speaker 2: attended the NFL Combine this year, I had the Pro
24:41
Speaker 2: Football Focus mock draft simulator set up on my laptop
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Speaker 2: and invited several NFL experts to make the Bengals picks
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Speaker 2: in the first three rounds while discussing their options. If
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Speaker 2: you've never tried a draft simulator before, it allows you
24:55
Speaker 2: to play Bengals GM for as many rounds of the
24:58
Speaker 2: draft as you want, but the simulator begins making picks
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Speaker 2: in order, and then when it's your turn, you can
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Speaker 2: make trades or go ahead and pick. It's a great
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Speaker 2: way to get to know the players who might be
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Speaker 2: available when the Bengals are on the clock next week.
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Speaker 2: So far, our experts have chosen the following players in
25:18
Speaker 2: the first round. Three have selected Utah tight end Dalton Kincaid,
25:24
Speaker 2: two have picked Maryland cornerback Deontay Banks, one chose Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame tight end Michael Mayer, and another chose Oregon State
25:33
Speaker 2: tight end Luke Musgrave. In the second round, two experts
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Speaker 2: picked Northwestern defensive linemen at A Tommy wa at a Bare.
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Speaker 2: The other picks were Washington State linebacker Dayon Henley, Syracuse
25:47
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Matthew Bergeron Illinois safety Sydney Brown, Texas A
25:52
Speaker 2: and M safety Antonio Johnson, and Kansas State cornerback Julius Brents.
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Speaker 2: And in the third round, there have been seven different
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Speaker 2: picks Iowa tight end Sam Laporta, BYU offensive tackled Blake Freeland,
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Speaker 2: Maryland cornerback jacoryan Bennett, TCU cornerback Trey Hodges, Tomlinson, UAB
26:13
Speaker 2: running back Dwayne McBride, Texas A and M running back
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Speaker 2: Devon a Chain, and Missouri edge rusher Isaiah McGuire. After
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Speaker 2: you make your picks on the simulator, PFF gives you
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Speaker 2: a grade, and the highest mark so far has been
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Speaker 2: an A for Sam Monson from Pro Football Focus. Now
26:33
Speaker 2: time for contestant number eight, a Bengals reporter who has
26:37
Speaker 2: been publishing a series of mock drafts for several years
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Speaker 2: for a local TV station in Cincinnati. Richard Skinner from
26:46
Speaker 2: Local twelve here in Cincinnati is the next person to
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Speaker 2: take part in our three round mock draft with a
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Speaker 2: draft expert. We're using the PFF Mock Draft Simulator. The
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Speaker 2: best grade we have so far as an a that
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Speaker 2: was Sam Monson, who works for PFF, so he had
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Speaker 2: a bit of an advantage there. Now, I consider you
27:03
Speaker 2: to be like Cincinnati's number one mock draft guy.
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Speaker 7: You have been quite an honor, Dan for sure, to
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Speaker 7: be known as that guy.
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Speaker 4: So sure, I'll take the honor.
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Speaker 2: You've been cranking out the mock drafts though for many
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Speaker 2: years well.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly in the down years where they were kind
27:18
Speaker 7: of out of things by mid season and you kind
27:20
Speaker 7: of had to start doing mock drafts a whole lot earlier.
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Speaker 7: In the last two years, I haven't gotten to my
27:24
Speaker 7: first mock I don't think until right before and or
27:26
Speaker 7: right after the combine. So that's both positive for my
27:29
Speaker 7: workflow and for the Bengals being good too.
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Speaker 2: All Right, So we've got the PFF simulator set up,
27:34
Speaker 2: We've got it at a reasonable speed. I'm going to
27:36
Speaker 2: hit enter draft. We'll take a look at some of
27:38
Speaker 2: the guys that fly off the board, and then we
27:41
Speaker 2: will discuss maybe somebody that you wish had still been
27:44
Speaker 2: there and take a look at the remaining options before
27:47
Speaker 2: you make your pick. Trades are not allowed. So here
27:50
Speaker 2: we go the Bengals selecting twenty eighth in the first
27:54
Speaker 2: round and the draft is underway. Bryce you, I'm going
27:57
Speaker 2: number one, cee J. Stroud going number two, Will Levis
28:01
Speaker 2: going in the top ten, as did Anthony Richardson. So
28:04
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks went in the top ten. Bjean Robinson went
28:09
Speaker 2: prior to pick twenty, so Bengals fans hoping that he
28:12
Speaker 2: will be selected by Cincinnati do not get their wish
28:15
Speaker 2: in this Richard Skinner mock draft. Dalton Kincaid, the tight
28:19
Speaker 2: end from Utah, was just selected one pick before the Bengals.
28:22
Speaker 2: He just went to the Buffalo Bills and picked a
28:24
Speaker 2: number twenty seven. So you are now on the clock.
28:28
Speaker 2: Did anybody go off the board within a few picks
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Speaker 2: of the Bengals selection that you were hoping to still
28:34
Speaker 2: be there?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Elijah Cantsey, I would hope might have been an option,
28:37
Speaker 7: but I think in real life he probably will be
28:39
Speaker 7: going anyway too, So it's kind of good for my sake.
28:41
Speaker 4: I don't have to make that decision. He's gone. Kinkaid
28:44
Speaker 4: is the first tight end off the board.
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Speaker 7: I think that's probably expected, but that does leave me
28:48
Speaker 7: with a very tough choice because there is another tight
28:51
Speaker 7: end on the board. I know him personally, I coached
28:53
Speaker 7: basketball against him, and I like Michael Marin awful lot.
28:57
Speaker 7: So Dan, I've done a couple of mockers you mentioned already,
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Speaker 7: one of them through the PFF simulator.
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Speaker 4: I did two in the same day.
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Speaker 7: In the same story where I did take Michael Mayer
29:07
Speaker 7: went that route, then in another one where Michael was selected,
29:10
Speaker 7: it kind of take it out of my hand, so
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Speaker 7: I went a different route, just to see what that
29:13
Speaker 7: how that was going to play out and when a
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Speaker 7: tight end might come back up. But I think for
29:16
Speaker 7: me at this stage, I think I have to take
29:18
Speaker 7: Michael Mayor. I think he's going to be his His
29:23
Speaker 7: ceiling is maybe not as high as you'd like it
29:25
Speaker 7: to be, but I think his floor is NFL ready
29:28
Speaker 7: tight end for the next ten years. They do have
29:30
Speaker 7: two guys on a one year stop gap, which your
29:32
Speaker 7: Erv Smith and Andrew sample. I think for me my
29:36
Speaker 7: pick here at this point, even though Emmanuel Forbes is
29:38
Speaker 7: on the board, It's a tough one for me because
29:39
Speaker 7: I love corners. I'm gonna go with Michael Mayor from
29:42
Speaker 7: Notre Dame. And I say that knowing that I've done
29:44
Speaker 7: this through PFF and it gives me a C plus
29:46
Speaker 7: grade for this big So I'm doing that knowing that.
29:48
Speaker 2: Dan Well, I'll tell you this, the grades have changed
29:51
Speaker 2: since the first time that I did this, so they're
29:53
Speaker 2: constantly updating their formula. Anton Harrison, the tackle from Oklahoma,
29:58
Speaker 2: also still available. But with Harrison and Emmanuel Forbes all
30:02
Speaker 2: being there and Michael Mayer, you are selecting tight end
30:06
Speaker 2: Michael Mayer from Notre Dame.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: And one quick point on the offensive lineman, I think
30:10
Speaker 7: this franchise and this personnel group has kind of learned
30:13
Speaker 7: the lesson of first round picks for offensive linemen are
30:16
Speaker 7: just really almost wasted.
30:18
Speaker 4: Capital because you don't know.
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Speaker 7: That's the one position group you don't know, and you
30:21
Speaker 7: go to Billy Price Interior, you can go to Cedrical Way.
30:24
Speaker 7: I mean those picks at the time and Price was
30:26
Speaker 7: maybe a bit of a reach, right, But I think
30:28
Speaker 7: they've learned their lesson of guys with NFL tape. It's
30:30
Speaker 7: why Orlando Brown's here, It's why Alex cap is here,
30:33
Speaker 7: It's why Ted Carris is here. It's why Al Collins
30:35
Speaker 7: was here. Doesn't mean you don't spend it. Quadell Wilson
30:38
Speaker 7: was spent in the fourth round, but I think first
30:39
Speaker 7: round capital Anton Harrison wasn't even consideration for me.
30:42
Speaker 4: It was down to Forbes and Michael Mayer, and I'll
30:43
Speaker 4: go Michael mahyor.
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Speaker 2: It seems that nearly all of the draft gurus have
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Speaker 2: Mayor and Utah's Dalton Kincaid ranked as the top two
30:51
Speaker 2: tight ends in a deep tight end draft. Cancaid is
30:55
Speaker 2: faster and the better receiver of the two. Mayor is
30:59
Speaker 2: a solid receipt for breaking all of Notre Dame's position
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Speaker 2: records for catches and receiving yards, and he is the
31:05
Speaker 2: better blocker of the two. Will either be there when
31:08
Speaker 2: the Bengals are on the clock at number twenty eight,
31:10
Speaker 2: well they're gone, and most of the mock drafts I've seen,
31:13
Speaker 2: but you never know. The Bengals were stunned when Dax
31:17
Speaker 2: Hill was still available at number thirty one last year.
31:20
Speaker 2: They had him ranked just outside of the top ten
31:23
Speaker 2: on their board. Now let's see who Local twelve's Richard
31:28
Speaker 2: Skinner selected in round two. We move on to round two.
31:33
Speaker 2: Dewan Jones was actually the last pick of the first
31:36
Speaker 2: round in this mock draft. Darnell Washington, the tight end
31:41
Speaker 2: from Georgia, was just selected, but you don't need a
31:43
Speaker 2: tight end at this point. Luke Musgrave was also just selected.
31:46
Speaker 2: So we have reached pick number sixty. This is the Bengals'
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Speaker 2: second round pick. Let's take a look at the guys
31:52
Speaker 2: or some of the guys that were selected within a
31:54
Speaker 2: few picks of number sixty.
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Speaker 7: Well, one of them is and I just took him
31:57
Speaker 7: in the most recent mock draft I did right there
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Speaker 7: at fifty nine.
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Speaker 4: Eka, the defensive tackle from bail Or.
32:03
Speaker 7: He's more of a nose tackle than he is a
32:06
Speaker 7: three technique, and I think they're probably in the market
32:07
Speaker 7: for a three technique. But DJ Readers contract is up
32:10
Speaker 7: after this year. They do need interior depth. I got
32:13
Speaker 7: lucky that I got him in the second round of
32:15
Speaker 7: a mock draft I got so he's certainly if he
32:16
Speaker 7: would have been on the board, he would have been
32:18
Speaker 7: in my wheelhouse to take. So that's going to probably
32:20
Speaker 7: make this pick a little bit more difficult for me.
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Speaker 2: Julius Brentz is a guy that I kind of like
32:25
Speaker 2: as a possible second round pick, the cornerback from Kansas State,
32:28
Speaker 2: but he went number forty eight to Detroit.
32:30
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I like him too, and I don't think he slips
32:33
Speaker 7: to where the Bengals are. Ikea is an interesting one because,
32:36
Speaker 7: like I said, I got him at sixty a different
32:37
Speaker 7: mock draft. He literally went just this pick before. So
32:40
Speaker 7: if he slides there, maybe they do get a chance
32:42
Speaker 7: to take him.
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Speaker 2: So we are now looking at guys that are still
32:45
Speaker 2: available in this mock draft for pick sixty in the
32:48
Speaker 2: second round.
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Speaker 7: This is where see the Samuelport is on the board right,
32:52
Speaker 7: So if I'd have gone the Forbes route, I would
32:54
Speaker 7: have been more than comfortable to take Samuelport in the
32:56
Speaker 7: second round. Nathaniel Dell, the wide receiver from houstoned him
33:00
Speaker 7: in the fourth round of a draft I did, and
33:02
Speaker 7: he is one that is literally all over the board,
33:04
Speaker 7: depending on what board you look at, He's gonna put
33:06
Speaker 7: instantaneously be a punt returner. He's really small, five six,
33:09
Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty five pounds, But you know, with
33:12
Speaker 7: Tyler Boyd's contract being up and he could slide into
33:14
Speaker 7: the slot next year, this gives them probably a more
33:17
Speaker 7: dynamic option than what they have on the roster for
33:19
Speaker 7: a fourth receiver going into this year. Yeah, I gotta
33:23
Speaker 7: go to the corner route, and I know Garrett Williams
33:25
Speaker 7: is there too, He's got some injury issues. If the
33:27
Speaker 7: kid from Sarahcuse should probably more familiar with him than
33:29
Speaker 7: I am as a player. I just know of him
33:31
Speaker 7: through the box I've done. I mocked him in an
33:33
Speaker 7: early one in the second round, but then the injury
33:34
Speaker 7: flags come up. I think I'm gonna go cornerback here,
33:37
Speaker 7: and the best corner on the board is Tyreek Stevenson.
33:40
Speaker 7: I think this is the time to get a ready
33:42
Speaker 7: made corner, and to me, Tyreek Stevenson would be the
33:45
Speaker 7: guy to go ahead and select. Garrett Williams is rated
33:48
Speaker 7: right behind him, but I honestly don't think he's I
33:49
Speaker 7: think he goes the fourth round, the fifth round because
33:52
Speaker 7: of the injury red flags.
33:54
Speaker 4: So I got Tyreek Stevenson from Miami, Florida.
33:58
Speaker 2: Tyreek Stevenson started as college career at Georgia and spent
34:01
Speaker 2: a couple of years there before finishing his career with
34:04
Speaker 2: two seasons close to home at the University of Miami.
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Speaker 2: He's six feet tall with long arms, roughly two hundred
34:12
Speaker 2: pounds and ran a four four five forty at the combine.
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Speaker 2: The Athletics Dane Brugler described Stevenson as a press man
34:20
Speaker 2: corner with NFL starting ability and as him ranked number
34:24
Speaker 2: sixty nine overall on his big board, he's number forty
34:28
Speaker 2: six on the PFF version. Now time for Richard Skinner's
34:33
Speaker 2: third round pick. Tyreek Stevenson selected with pick number sixties.
34:38
Speaker 2: So you have Michael Mayer in round one, Tyreek Stevenson
34:42
Speaker 2: in round two, and now we move on to the
34:44
Speaker 2: third round.
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Speaker 4: I would have really love Tank Dell. I just wish
34:47
Speaker 4: he was around further down.
34:49
Speaker 7: Maybe I get lucky he sneaks through this round, but
34:51
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say absolutely not.
34:52
Speaker 3: You did not get lucky.
34:54
Speaker 2: He has just taken it pick number eighty one, so
34:56
Speaker 2: you almost got there, but Tank Dell is gone. The
35:00
Speaker 2: pick immediately before the Bengals was a running back Tank
35:03
Speaker 2: Bigsby out of Auburn pick number ninety one. This is
35:06
Speaker 2: pick number ninety two. Any position group that you're interested
35:10
Speaker 2: in here, No, I'm.
35:12
Speaker 4: Still and I'm with their boat. I'm best available for me.
35:14
Speaker 7: If Tank Bigsby had been there, he would have certainly
35:17
Speaker 7: been under consideration. I can't remember I took him in
35:18
Speaker 7: one of my mocks already, Dan, I can't remember if
35:20
Speaker 7: he was still there in the fourth round and I
35:22
Speaker 7: got luckier, maybe I did go ahead and take him
35:24
Speaker 7: in the third round.
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Speaker 4: Let's see what we got on the board right now.
35:27
Speaker 7: In the third round, guys, I mean I could double
35:29
Speaker 7: up easily with Trevius Hodges, Tomlinson, the cornerback from TCU.
35:33
Speaker 7: I don't think I want to go the safety route.
35:35
Speaker 7: Michael Wilson's probably more of a fourth or fifth round projection,
35:39
Speaker 7: the wide receiver from Stanford.
35:41
Speaker 4: I think I'm doubling up at cornerback. You know, Chenobia.
35:44
Speaker 7: Wuzia's contract is up after this year.
35:46
Speaker 4: You can never have enough of these guys.
35:48
Speaker 7: I mean, no offense to Sidney Jones, the fourth He's
35:51
Speaker 7: technically the fourth corner on the roster now, and you'd
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Speaker 7: probably like an upgrade from that. I know the Bengals,
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Speaker 7: Duke Tobin told us the other day or the day
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Speaker 7: that we were doing this mock, have to you know,
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Speaker 7: they don't double up on purpose a positions and this happenstance,
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Speaker 7: but they.
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Speaker 4: Do seem to do that.
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Speaker 7: I mean, they doubled up, triple up, quadrupled up on
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Speaker 7: linebacker the one year, right, and all those guys are
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Speaker 7: still on the roster.
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Speaker 4: So I'm going back to the cornerback round.
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back to back corners and take Trevius
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Speaker 7: Hodges Tomlinson, the cornerback out of TCU.
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Speaker 2: Trey Hodges. Tomlinson is one of the smallest cornerbacks in
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Speaker 2: the draft. He's not quite five to eight and weighs
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy eight pounds, but he's fast, running
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Speaker 2: a four four forty and rabbit quick. Tomlinson won the
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Speaker 2: Jim Thorpe Award last year. Is the best defensive back
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Speaker 2: in college football with eighteen pass deflections and three interceptions.
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Speaker 2: He's ranked number fifty nine overall on the PFF Big Board.
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Speaker 2: Now time to find out how PFF graded Richard's picks.
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Speaker 2: All right, so you have selected a tight end and
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Speaker 2: two cornerbacks, and now we are going to find out
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Speaker 2: how pff it has graded.
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Speaker 7: Will like me because of the Michael Mayor selection. I
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Speaker 7: gotta be plus on the Michael Mahyor.
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Speaker 2: An A for Tyraeke Stevenson, an A plus for Trey
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Speaker 2: Hodges Tomlinson for an overall grade of A. You have
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Speaker 2: tied Sam Monson for the best grade for a three
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Speaker 2: round mock draft.
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Speaker 7: Yet, Yeah, I feel I looked into Trevis Hodges Tomlinson
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Speaker 7: because he's probably a second round talent for the most part.
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Speaker 7: Now they have you mentioned it because the last time
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Speaker 7: I did this with them and took Michael Mayer, I
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Speaker 7: only got to C plus for the Michael Mayor pick
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Speaker 7: that's been upgraded to a B.
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Speaker 4: So I feel pretty good about it.
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Speaker 7: And then if I got out of the first two
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Speaker 7: days with this with potential starting depth at corner and
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Speaker 7: at least guys in the pipeline and a more dynamic
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Speaker 7: long term tight end, I'd feel pretty good about it.
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Speaker 7: I still need to address running back, and there are
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Speaker 7: a lot of fourth round, fifth round graded running backs
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Speaker 7: that can come in and be a rotational piece, and
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Speaker 7: I think that's all you're looking for out of this draft.
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Speaker 7: A few of the Bengals is a rotational running back,
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Speaker 7: and then I'm just filling in from there, whether it
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Speaker 7: be safety, take an offensive lineman in one of those
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Speaker 7: mid rounds. It's not wasted raft capital in the mid
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Speaker 7: round if it doesn't work out as a fifth round
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Speaker 7: or a fourth round guy, that's okay, but your first
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Speaker 7: two days you got to hit on. Guys are eventually
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Speaker 7: going to start, and I think all three of these
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Speaker 7: guys eventually start and have nice careers.
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Speaker 3: I am not surprised in the least.
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Speaker 2: Richard Skinner from Local twelve received an A for his
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Speaker 2: three round mac.
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Speaker 7: I feel I feel honored to have done it, and
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Speaker 7: I feel like I kind of got lucky that they
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Speaker 7: upgraded some of the guys that I like. Maybe that's
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Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a good sign or not,
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Speaker 7: but I feel better about it.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. Thanks man.
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