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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December ten. This is Jack Lars Happy
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Speaker 1: You can vote until tomorrow. Welcome in the Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman with US, Tony Baselli Coming
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Speaker 1: up in a bit. Here's what's on the show today.
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Speaker 1: Titans Jaguars Preview, Part two. These teams went back in
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Speaker 1: week two. They'll meet in Week fourteen. Coming up Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Mike Glennon gets the start at quarterback for a third
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Speaker 1: straight week. A defensive challenge this week against this Titans offfense.
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Speaker 1: Dereck Henry leads away. Tannehill the quarterback playing well with
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Speaker 1: the weapons outside. Tony Bose Elliott for thirty today joining
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Speaker 1: us and the Doug Barone Show at five o'clock on
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Jeff Logman with US now logs
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Speaker 1: It's Part two. Part one featured a big rally for
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Speaker 1: the Jags the tie the game thirty thirty back in
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Speaker 1: week two, but the late field goal for the Titans
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Speaker 1: won that one and since then these franchises have gone
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Speaker 1: in opposite directions. The Jaguars lost not only that one,
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Speaker 1: but the next ten straight the Laws. The losing streak continues.
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Speaker 1: The Titans are eight and four there in first place
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Speaker 1: in the division, with hopes and dreams of a playoff
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Speaker 1: run here in December. It's two different organizations right now,
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Speaker 1: well certainly, and I think I think Mike Rabel and
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Speaker 1: John Robinson have done a really good job in Tennessee
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Speaker 1: with that football team because they have a great back
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Speaker 1: and they're really leaning on the great back for them
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Speaker 1: to be competitive. You know, their defense is not great,
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Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars ought to be able to
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Speaker 1: gore some points on them. I mean, look at what
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns were able to do last week. So
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good match up. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people around the nation and fans of football
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Speaker 1: are predicting that the Tennessee Titans are gonna walk all
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Speaker 1: over the Jaguars, and I just don't see it. I
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Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a very competitive game and
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Speaker 1: I think it will come down to the wire. So
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Speaker 1: I I like that we're doing. We've We've had a
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Speaker 1: few of those feelings lately, but just unable to finish them.
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Speaker 1: Let's start, though, with the Derrick Henry conversation, because that's
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Speaker 1: where it really begins for the Tennessee Titans. He's the
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Speaker 1: leading rusher in the NFL this year, the most carries,
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Speaker 1: the most yard edge, the second most rushing touchdowns, and
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Speaker 1: back in Week two the Jags did a pretty good
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Speaker 1: job of bottling him up, only three point four yards
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Speaker 1: per carry. That was in the early part of the season,
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Speaker 1: of course, when the Jaguars are really focused on stopping
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Speaker 1: the run after everything that had happened in the season
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Speaker 1: before against the run. For this defense, well, we all
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Speaker 1: know the history Derrick Henry has against the Jaguars organization
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Speaker 1: with stiff arms and long runs and Todd wash. Today,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive coordinator said, that is in the practice plan
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Speaker 1: this week. He's got a hell of a stiff arm,
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Speaker 1: and we we work drill specifically obviously um this week
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Speaker 1: when we go against Derek every every time we play him,
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Speaker 1: so his stiff arm is something that we work on
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Speaker 1: each week when we play him. All right, eyes to thighs,
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Speaker 1: he said a little bit later in the press conference today,
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Speaker 1: that's really the plan you don't want to go high
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Speaker 1: on this guy because he's gonna swatch you away. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I wouldn't say that. I think
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Speaker 1: he just you have to have a tackling plan and
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Speaker 1: depends on who you are jp if if you're a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: then obviously you don't want to take him up high
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Speaker 1: because he's a two fifty pound back and it's just
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Speaker 1: very rare to see a running back in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League of that side. And Todd's talking about how
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Speaker 1: they have drills that are cific to the stiff arm,
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Speaker 1: and and you gotta have him because he does. He's
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Speaker 1: got a great stiff arm and and the and the
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Speaker 1: drills for the stiff arm are are kind of two
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Speaker 1: different ways in which you work on it, and that
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Speaker 1: you literally lift the arm up as he's coming out
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Speaker 1: with it, or you chop your arm down on it
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Speaker 1: in a chopping motion to knock at all. And and
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Speaker 1: that's not easy to do because he's really good. He's
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Speaker 1: really long, and a lot of times when you're trying
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Speaker 1: to do that, you're not even reaching him yet. And
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Speaker 1: that's why his stiff arm is so good because of
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Speaker 1: his length. But he's a great back. And you know,
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Speaker 1: if I think the circumstances also dictate where you're gonna
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Speaker 1: tackle him if you're a defensive tackle or if I'm
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Speaker 1: a defensive end, I'm tackling Derrick Henry. If I'm coming
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Speaker 1: from the front, I'm probably gonna go low. But if
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Speaker 1: I'm coming from the side, I'm staying high because I'm
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Speaker 1: big enough to be able to bring him down. And
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Speaker 1: I'm also going for that ball. And he is great
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Speaker 1: with ball security, but he's not immune. He had his
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Speaker 1: first fumble lost this past week against the Cleveland Browns,
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Speaker 1: and hopefully the Jaguars can find a way to get
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Speaker 1: him to call for another one up. But the guy's
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Speaker 1: a fantastic back JP and and you better be ready.
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Speaker 1: I mean nine games against the Jaguars that he's played,
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Speaker 1: and the I would say the first five, four or
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Speaker 1: five of those games that he's played, he was kind
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Speaker 1: of in a in a split time role at running back.
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Speaker 1: So you're talking about nine games with like seven yards rushing.
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good number for Derrick Henry, no doubt.
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Speaker 1: And as you know, you gotta get your shots in
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Speaker 1: on him early in the play. Obviously, if he gets
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Speaker 1: rolling and gets outside of contain and out against those
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Speaker 1: little guys and gets that head of steam going. That's
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Speaker 1: when he's the freight train outside and really hard to handle.
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Speaker 1: So you gotta keep him contained. So the edge to
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Speaker 1: your point, the defensive line, they've got to hold that
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Speaker 1: edge this week can keep him on the interior. Is
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Speaker 1: that pretty accurate assessment? Well, the Tygers do a great
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Speaker 1: job and that first of all, every back once they
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Speaker 1: get rolling, is really that much tougher. And now I
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Speaker 1: think it's it's it's probably more so the case for
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry because you're talking about two hundred fifty pounds.
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Speaker 1: It gets rolling and all of a sudden, when you're
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Speaker 1: a ninety found defensive back and you're starting to think about,
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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, how am I going to tackle? There's
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Speaker 1: a guy that's coming at me. There's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a factor there to where you you sit there
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Speaker 1: and go, um do I want to take the punishment?
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Speaker 1: So defensive backs don't do very well. And the Tennessee
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Speaker 1: Titans like to get him outside. He's the great back
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Speaker 1: at bouncing to the outside. They attack the outside. The
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans have excellent blocking tight ends that allow them
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Speaker 1: to do that to get outside. But you're right when
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Speaker 1: when he gets rolling like he did against the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: a few years ago, with this ninety nine year old
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Speaker 1: run that we're looking at, I mean, it was I mean,
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Speaker 1: I hate to say this because it was against the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: but I mean it was one of the greatest runs
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Speaker 1: in NFL history and because of the individual effort of
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Speaker 1: of Derrick Henry JP and I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: it was a thing of beauty, but I mean it's
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Speaker 1: right up there with the Marshawn Lynch run. That was
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Speaker 1: just amazing. No doubt he's He's got a few of
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Speaker 1: them on his reserve, the big long touchdown runs. And
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Speaker 1: let's hope that the Jaguars can contain him a bit now.
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Speaker 1: Of course, when the Titans get rolling, they have the
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Speaker 1: run game going, but then they play off the run
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Speaker 1: game as well through the air. And Ryan Tannehill has
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Speaker 1: put together a really solid season at quarterback for the
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Last week three touchdowns when they tried to
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Speaker 1: rally back. A couple of those were late in the game,
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Speaker 1: but twenty six touchdowns for the season, five interceptions. He's
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Speaker 1: been over a hundred rating in eight games this year
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Speaker 1: log so they have the weapons outside. When John O.
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Speaker 1: Smith the tied end is healthy, he's among the best
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Speaker 1: in the league and they can do some damage when
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Speaker 1: they are balanced out on offense. Yeah, because they have
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Speaker 1: their playmakers that all the positions and first and foremost
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Speaker 1: give Bryan Tannehill credit. I mean, here was a guy
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Speaker 1: that was considered a throwaway quarterback by the Miami to
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Speaker 1: off ends and then he kind of gets reborn in Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: And it helps to be reborn when you've got a
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Speaker 1: running back like Derrick Henry, So that doesn't hurt. But
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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that Ryan Tannehill on
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Speaker 1: his own court, is still a very good pastor and
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Speaker 1: he's he's a sixth rated pass from the National Football
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Speaker 1: League this year. When you look at his numbers against
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars historically, he completes almost seventy of his passes. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He's an outstanding quarterback that does a great job at
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Speaker 1: distributing the ball and he has a little bit of
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Speaker 1: an X factor too that he has mobility and that's
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Speaker 1: something that a lot of quarterbacks don't have, but he has.
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Speaker 1: And everybody talks about him being a former wide receiver
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Speaker 1: and that's great and fine and dandy, and it does
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Speaker 1: show that he's got some mobility, but he also has
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Speaker 1: it's not like he is willy nilly when he decides
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Speaker 1: to run. I mean, he it's a it's a planned
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Speaker 1: thing where he sees coverage that gives him an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to find something down the field. So he's a smart quarterback,
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Speaker 1: you know. And he gives his team the ability to
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Speaker 1: come back. In some ball games, they scored a lot
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Speaker 1: of points and nearly came back. Can made the game
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Speaker 1: somewhat competitive against the Cleveland Browns. I watched the game
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Speaker 1: last night, and they got it close. It wasn't like
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Speaker 1: it was in the all of a sudden they were
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Speaker 1: gonna score and win. But but he closed the gap.
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Speaker 1: So he's capable and the weapons that he has are
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Speaker 1: are really good. You're talking about Corey Davis's coming off
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Speaker 1: a career best game this past week. Now, A J. Brown,
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Speaker 1: who we think as a marvelous player, and he's big,
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Speaker 1: and he's fast and can run the go route. He
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Speaker 1: had two fumbles his past game and he's had some
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Speaker 1: drops and that's been a big issue with him. And
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a great vertical threat, I mean a
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Speaker 1: great vertical threat. And they talked about a big dude.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that the guy in Seattle, his
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Speaker 1: teammate from college, is a lot bigger and more freakishly big.
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Speaker 1: But A J. Brown is big in his own right now. Uh,
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Speaker 1: he's a big cat. Now. The Titans lost Adam Humphreys,
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Speaker 1: who was kind of their third guy, kind of a
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Speaker 1: possession type of receiver. So that's gonna hurt a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But they've got some other guys that are gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to step up. But the two big big dogs
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Speaker 1: or a J. Brown, John HU Smith or a J.
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Speaker 1: Brown and Corey Davison. And when you had a John U.
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Speaker 1: Smith and there, if he's healthy, that's a dangerous combination
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Speaker 1: when you have all that behind, or when the passing
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Speaker 1: game with Derrick Henry and a running game. We're anxiously
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Speaker 1: awaiting the injury report today. John NU Smith was limited
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Speaker 1: yesterday with a knee issue, and Todd Wash said today
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Speaker 1: he was really looking at that just to see, but
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Speaker 1: has not come out officially yet. We'll keep you posted
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Speaker 1: if it pops up here in the next hour or so.
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Speaker 1: On Jaguar's Happy Hour about the Jags defense logs last week,
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Speaker 1: it felt like they played a really solid game. I know,
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Speaker 1: the big three in Minnesota got their numbers at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day. Dalvin Cook took thirty two carries
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Speaker 1: to get to his total last week. And you had
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Speaker 1: some some solid play on the defensive line from guys
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Speaker 1: that in reality are probably rotational type players. But Dwan
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Speaker 1: Smooth his best game in a long time, a couple
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Speaker 1: of sacks, and you know, considering the personnel that's on
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Speaker 1: the field on defense right now, I thought they played
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Speaker 1: a pretty good game last week. Now the challenge, of
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Speaker 1: course this week against Tennessee, sure it's it's a bigger
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Speaker 1: challenge in Minnesota's doesn't have a strong offensive line, so
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Speaker 1: you expected the Jaguars defensive line to play a little
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Speaker 1: bit better, and they did. But I think they found
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Speaker 1: some stability. And when I say stability, I'm talking stability
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and that Daniel Equality and cost In
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Speaker 1: in the middle at the defensive tackle spots, and then
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Speaker 1: as the defensive vents Adam Got that's playing the strong
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Speaker 1: side and then Smoot playing kind of the open side
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Speaker 1: or what we call the eagle nd. And I think
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Speaker 1: it's a good combination. I think it gives you your
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Speaker 1: best chance to win. And are these rotational type guys
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Speaker 1: as far as on any other roster they backup. So
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Speaker 1: I mean, you could make the argument that most teams
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Speaker 1: would probably replace two of those guys. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying that any particular two that it is. I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying take your pick out of the two, because you'd
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Speaker 1: like to upgrade somewhere and have a dom and a player.
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Speaker 1: But I think they're solid. They do their job, they
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Speaker 1: don't get out of their gap, and then that gives
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Speaker 1: you a chance. And I think it reflects also in
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Speaker 1: the linebacker play. If you look at the performance of
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Speaker 1: Joe Schobert, Miles Jack last week, which is pretty dog
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Speaker 1: gone good, and especially Joe Schobert, it was doing a
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Speaker 1: large part of the performance of the defensive line. They
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Speaker 1: had a really good outing. I thought, can they build
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Speaker 1: on that this week against Tennessee Titans. Offensive line we'll see,
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Speaker 1: But the Tennessee Titans, this is not the same offensive
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Speaker 1: line that we've been talking about for the last couple
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Speaker 1: of years, going, oh my goodness, they're so good. And
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Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan is the best left tackle will tell Lawan
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Speaker 1: is out with a significant knee entry and Quisinberry is
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Speaker 1: playing left tackle, a kind of a journeyman player that
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Speaker 1: overcame cancer. And they've got some other players in there
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Speaker 1: that are that are good, but they're not the kind
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Speaker 1: of offensive line that strikes fear in anybody's eyes. A
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Speaker 1: lot of changes up front there in Tennessee, for sure,
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Speaker 1: and we'll see if the Jaguars defense can take advantage
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Speaker 1: this week and get something done up front against this
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Speaker 1: Titans offense. We've got plenty more ahead on Jaguar's Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: including Mike Glennan getting a third start, and what's up
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Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew. We'll hear about that coming up for thirty.
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Speaker 1: That's hard. You know, I had three in five games
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Speaker 1: last year in Washington. I had three or four of
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Speaker 1: the year before that in Washington's I've had about ten quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: I've dealt with them a small amount of time. And
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Speaker 1: the consistency of that position is UH really important. It's
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Speaker 1: uh critical to have success. Uh you have to have
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Speaker 1: consistency of that position. Talking to one guy speaking the
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Speaker 1: same language, cater into their strengths, and we're changing weekend
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Speaker 1: and week out. Uh, it's hard to get a gauge
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Speaker 1: on what they like, what they're comfortable with. UM, so
17:45
Speaker 1: that's the most difficult thing. So you know, I think
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Speaker 1: we're we're dealing with three great kids, UH, guys that
17:50
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Speaker 1: them getting to know me a little bit. That's the
17:57
Speaker 1: biggest challenge that we have. And and now us will
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Speaker 1: be the third week with Mike hopefully, Uh, I'm starting
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Speaker 1: getting his head a little bit and he understands uh
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Speaker 1: where we're going and what I what I think he likes.
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Speaker 1: So it'll hopefully be beneficial. Defensive coordinator yesterday, discussing the
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Speaker 1: quarterback position and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour j P.
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Speaker 1: at five o'clock. And yeah, he said it there, Consistency
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18:36
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks every week just because and expect results. You know,
18:42
Speaker 1: having a consistent starter week to week helps with the communication,
18:47
Speaker 1: the play calling and all of the above. As he
18:49
Speaker 1: said there, that's a lot of quarterbacks in the last
18:51
Speaker 1: three years for him, by the way logs. Yeah, a
18:55
Speaker 1: little bit of a Quartermack quarterback nightmare for Jay Gruten,
18:59
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I also enjoyed listening to his comments
19:02
Speaker 1: today when he talked about Alex Smith and and how
19:06
Speaker 1: he just thought he isn't such an amazing person and
19:09
Speaker 1: what a great comeback that he's had this year for
19:11
Speaker 1: the Washington football team, because what Alex Smith went through
19:15
Speaker 1: was obviously when Jay Gruden was their head coach. So
19:19
Speaker 1: I know that he's got a uh, certainly he's a
19:22
Speaker 1: rooting interest with Alex Smith and the Washington football team. There,
19:25
Speaker 1: I mean even though he lost his job from from
19:27
Speaker 1: the team, But you can really tell that he's got
19:31
Speaker 1: an affinity for for Alex and and how how and
19:34
Speaker 1: I think he said at what at one point today
19:36
Speaker 1: said you know, he goes, I couldn't have come back
19:37
Speaker 1: from what Alex did, which says a lot and uh
19:41
Speaker 1: but pretty cool. But yeah, I mean he he's had
19:43
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks and that's just the way it is.
19:45
Speaker 1: And and could you change quarterbacks every week? JP? You
19:48
Speaker 1: actually could? I mean, and I don't think it's gonna
19:50
Speaker 1: give you much a chance to win any football game,
19:52
Speaker 1: but you could change him every week just because you
19:54
Speaker 1: can do it. But this week it's gonna be Mike
19:57
Speaker 1: Lennon again. And uh, I find it interesting that that
20:02
Speaker 1: Gardner Mishew comes out and talks about how he was
20:04
Speaker 1: begging to come to be back in the lineup and
20:07
Speaker 1: play and all that kind of stuff. Yet when you
20:10
Speaker 1: hear the coaches talk, especially Jay Gruden, he pretty much
20:15
Speaker 1: said that Gardner Minshew have from talking to whoever, he
20:20
Speaker 1: has not thrown the ball as much as he needs
20:22
Speaker 1: to to show that he is ready to be back.
20:24
Speaker 1: So I'm not quite understanding how you can say that
20:29
Speaker 1: you're begging to be playing again, but at the same token,
20:34
Speaker 1: you're not taking the reps required to play. So I'm
20:38
Speaker 1: a little confused with that. But anyway, I'm glad to
20:41
Speaker 1: see that Mike Lennon is going to get another opportunity.
20:44
Speaker 1: And for the same reason that when Jake Luton faced
20:47
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, I wanted to see him play the
20:49
Speaker 1: next week because I wanted to see how he would
20:51
Speaker 1: bounce back. I want to see how Mike Lennon bounces
20:54
Speaker 1: back against the Minnesota Vikings team that he didn't have
20:57
Speaker 1: a great performance. He had two interceptions and he also
21:00
Speaker 1: had the fumble. And when you commit three turnovers yourself
21:04
Speaker 1: and then you put the Conley one in there, you
21:06
Speaker 1: don't have much of a chance to win. Because the
21:08
Speaker 1: reality is is that this football team has been in
21:12
Speaker 1: many games, and it's been in the games to where
21:15
Speaker 1: their turnover differential has been favorable, and when it's not
21:19
Speaker 1: been favorable, they haven't been in games. And well, in fact,
21:22
Speaker 1: they've bill in the past game against the Minnesota Vikings,
21:26
Speaker 1: but the outcome certainly hasn't been favorable. You know. The
21:29
Speaker 1: The amazing thing to JP the Jaguars every game this year,
21:34
Speaker 1: they've only had one where they've been plus two and
21:36
Speaker 1: turnover differential, and that was the very first one against Colet.
21:40
Speaker 1: About that, Yeah, Philip rivers through a couple in that
21:42
Speaker 1: game in week one. It seems like an eternity ago
21:45
Speaker 1: because it was you mentioned is it just me? Are
21:50
Speaker 1: you are you feeling this vibe from Gardner Minshill and
21:53
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of weird, right, I mean to where
21:56
Speaker 1: well he's saying he's you know, he's begging to play,
21:58
Speaker 1: but then he's not taking the rep I mean, I
22:00
Speaker 1: don't get that. Well, let's hear from Doug Moron on
22:04
Speaker 1: it first, and the head coach this week was asked
22:07
Speaker 1: about that and gardnerment Show's comments that he was begging
22:10
Speaker 1: to get back in and all the above, and Doug
22:13
Speaker 1: Marone here's what he had to say. Let's just put
22:16
Speaker 1: it that way. I think you get a little bit
22:18
Speaker 1: worried if it's the other way. You know what I'm saying,
22:20
Speaker 1: where someone doesn't want to get out there, Uh, he's
22:23
Speaker 1: not a competitor. He's comfortable in his role of maybe
22:29
Speaker 1: not playing. So um, you know, you can have all
22:32
Speaker 1: these emotions as a player and sometimes on the outside,
22:35
Speaker 1: you'll look at it and say, oh man, he must
22:37
Speaker 1: be really upset that he's not doing this or that
22:40
Speaker 1: or you know, but you know, at the end of
22:42
Speaker 1: the day, that's not how they are around their teammates
22:44
Speaker 1: and how they practice and they're still working to get
22:46
Speaker 1: better and do it. So um, and there's some guys
22:49
Speaker 1: that you would know that you know what I'm saying.
22:50
Speaker 1: I mean, you can get a sense to that. But
22:51
Speaker 1: we don't have that issue at all. So you know,
22:54
Speaker 1: we're all trying to communicate, we're all trying to work
22:56
Speaker 1: through things. Um, you know, journeys tough time. So we're
22:59
Speaker 1: just gonna keep working on these guys and keeople keep
23:02
Speaker 1: getting better. So let's Doug Maron's take on it. Lugs.
23:06
Speaker 1: And you know, there's only so many reps to go
23:09
Speaker 1: around on the practice field during the regular season and
23:12
Speaker 1: an actual practice action, right, I mean, you're on the
23:15
Speaker 1: scout team and the starter is getting the reps. That's
23:18
Speaker 1: kind of how that works. So you know, yeah, you
23:21
Speaker 1: maybe you want to be out there, but this is
23:24
Speaker 1: this is the NFL, this is real life. You don't
23:26
Speaker 1: always get what you want because the other guy's starting.
23:29
Speaker 1: And that's how he's working right now. No, I hear you,
23:33
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just kinda I kind of got
23:35
Speaker 1: the feeling from listening to Jay Gruden's comments that um
23:41
Speaker 1: that it was Gardner, that Gardner didn't want to take
23:44
Speaker 1: the reps or didn't want to make as many throws.
23:46
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, maybe I'm I'm misunderstanding that, but
23:51
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I just think that's kind
23:53
Speaker 1: of odd that the player is gonna say, hey, I'm
23:56
Speaker 1: begging to play, but but yet the way that he's
24:00
Speaker 1: talking is that the reps that he was offered he
24:03
Speaker 1: didn't want to pay. At least that's the impression I'm
24:06
Speaker 1: getting JP. And maybe I'm reading it wrong. I don't know,
24:09
Speaker 1: but it's kind of odd to me. I I just think,
24:14
Speaker 1: and this is this is me thinking out loud, but
24:17
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about a lot of nothing because
24:21
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon is the starting quarterback and I think he's
24:23
Speaker 1: going to be the starter until the wheels fall off
24:27
Speaker 1: of this thing. And that's my thought about it. So
24:30
Speaker 1: we're talking about the back end. Totally get what you're saying,
24:36
Speaker 1: and the reality is that he's going to be the
24:39
Speaker 1: starter as long as he plays okay, But in the
24:43
Speaker 1: bigger picture of that, even but he didn't play, Okay,
24:46
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter he plays, it doesn't matter. Yeah, that's
24:51
Speaker 1: where they are. The future. The future at quarterback is
24:56
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And you can say it's in the draft,
25:00
Speaker 1: you can say that it's in free agency, wherever it
25:04
Speaker 1: may be. But the future of the quarterback room for
25:07
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars is not anywhere even remotely close to
25:12
Speaker 1: where it is right now. It's going to be vastly
25:14
Speaker 1: different in the future. And this football team needs to
25:18
Speaker 1: find a quarterback talent that it can win with and
25:21
Speaker 1: and and be consistent with. And that's you know, you
25:24
Speaker 1: look back at the history of the Jaguars organization and
25:29
Speaker 1: to look at the number of swings that you've taken
25:32
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. There's not a lot. I mean,
25:36
Speaker 1: you've taken some swings in sixth round, in fourth round
25:39
Speaker 1: and and such. But this team, besides Mark Brunell, has
25:43
Speaker 1: not had a franchise type guy. And you've drafted three
25:47
Speaker 1: in the first round and you didn't hit on any
25:49
Speaker 1: of the three, which is surprising because given twenty six years,
25:53
Speaker 1: if you've tried it three times and you're not doing
25:55
Speaker 1: you're not hitting it. You would think that there would
25:58
Speaker 1: be a lot more than three because if you're gonna
26:01
Speaker 1: have a chance to win, and we've kind of talked
26:03
Speaker 1: about this, gosh so many different times. It kind of
26:06
Speaker 1: gets to be repetitive and my numbing, but the reality
26:09
Speaker 1: is you have to keep trying, and it's not to
26:13
Speaker 1: where you can't win without a quarterback, but it gives
26:15
Speaker 1: you the best chance to win year in the year
26:18
Speaker 1: out consistently if you can find the guy. And this
26:21
Speaker 1: franchise has passed up the opportunity recently under general manager
26:26
Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell, when you could have acknowledged that Blake Bortles
26:30
Speaker 1: was not the guy and could have taken a swing
26:32
Speaker 1: at one of these other guys that we're seeing on
26:34
Speaker 1: a regular basis now, either DeShawn Watson or Patrick Mahomes
26:38
Speaker 1: or I mean whoever. I mean, you just it was
26:42
Speaker 1: just shortsighted, I thought, in the recent history of this
26:44
Speaker 1: franchise too, to not admit that we don't you don't
26:47
Speaker 1: have the guy, and then to continue to try to
26:50
Speaker 1: find a guy. Well, we're If you you think we're
26:54
Speaker 1: talking a lot about it, now, just wait until February
26:58
Speaker 1: at March at a will leading into the draft, because
27:01
Speaker 1: that's all the conversation will be with the Jacksonville Jaguars now.
27:06
Speaker 1: Matter who the quarterback is next year, it's a pretty
27:09
Speaker 1: good feeling that the running back behind him will be
27:12
Speaker 1: James Robinson. He's Fenn had a fantastic season. Of course,
27:16
Speaker 1: it just continues to build and build and hopefully he
27:19
Speaker 1: gets some of that Pro Bowl momentum. It'll be tough
27:22
Speaker 1: and undrafted rookie on a one and eleven football team,
27:24
Speaker 1: but his four point six yard per carry average is
27:29
Speaker 1: considering that he doesn't have long breakaway runs, he doesn't
27:34
Speaker 1: lose yardage much either, so he is as consistent as
27:38
Speaker 1: can be. And he is he is the future of
27:42
Speaker 1: the running back position here. Well, he's part of it.
27:47
Speaker 1: You know when I say he's part of it, Look,
27:49
Speaker 1: James Robinson is amazing. I mean, thirty two yards away
27:52
Speaker 1: from from hitting a thousand yards and he's on pace
27:56
Speaker 1: to do or to have the best season by an
28:00
Speaker 1: undrafted rookies, surpassing Philip Lindsay and and others. I mean,
28:05
Speaker 1: that's an amazing job. And with two d and fifty
28:07
Speaker 1: five yards, he's gonna tie Fred Taylor for the Jaguars
28:10
Speaker 1: rookie Russian record. I mean, those are all incredible things,
28:13
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna surpass Fred Taylor's record and
28:17
Speaker 1: in the future. JP though this year he has carried
28:20
Speaker 1: the load by himself and you really haven't had any
28:24
Speaker 1: debt And that's kind of been an issue recently with
28:27
Speaker 1: the Jaguars running back position period. I mean, when Leonard
28:30
Speaker 1: Fournette was the guy, he didn't have any depth behind
28:32
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. It was almost as if the position kind
28:35
Speaker 1: of got ignored or neglected. And James Robinson is the
28:38
Speaker 1: guy this year, But what do you have behind somebody
28:40
Speaker 1: that can share the load. I do know this, when
28:44
Speaker 1: James Robinson leaves the field or he leaves the Jaguars
28:47
Speaker 1: offensive huddle, there is a significant significant drop in the
28:52
Speaker 1: performance of other running backs when James is not in there.
28:55
Speaker 1: And that's not what you want. I mean, look, you
28:57
Speaker 1: can't have what the Cleveland Browns have not yet. Team
29:00
Speaker 1: can have that, and I'm not saying that you have
29:02
Speaker 1: to have that, but you need to have somebody that
29:05
Speaker 1: you feel good about coming in and not somebody that
29:08
Speaker 1: every time that somebody is in you're sitting there going
29:10
Speaker 1: put James Robinson back in because he's so much better.
29:14
Speaker 1: And you've got to have a guy that you can
29:16
Speaker 1: you feel good about spelling your main guy or spelling
29:20
Speaker 1: James Robinson in this case. So in the in the future,
29:26
Speaker 1: you gotta find you gotta find debt, and you've got
29:28
Speaker 1: to have more than one guy. And if you don't
29:31
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29:33
Speaker 1: when you're when you don't have that guy, and then
29:35
Speaker 1: you're gonna get exposed. And right now that Jaguars have
29:38
Speaker 1: one guy from what we've seen, and I think that
29:41
Speaker 1: if they had some other people that were that were
29:44
Speaker 1: really good, then I think that they would certainly be
29:46
Speaker 1: getting more reps and what we have seen from them
29:49
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34:48
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Speaker 1: on the program. Good afternoon, Tony. What's up? What's up? Fellas?
35:05
Speaker 1: Did I just hear Doug called ben Bart's John? Did
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Speaker 1: you say John? That was? That was John? Shipley asked
35:13
Speaker 1: the question, right, that was like, wow, yeah, but you
35:19
Speaker 1: could actually call you can actually call ben Bart's Johnny
35:23
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35:26
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35:30
Speaker 1: That's right. I know that I knew that. That's where
35:32
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he was his nickname or something like that.
35:34
Speaker 1: That's why I was confused. Yeah, it was interesting. I
35:37
Speaker 1: mean his thoughts on ben Barts. I mean, uh, and
35:42
Speaker 1: I know Logs and not you. You don't have talked
35:45
Speaker 1: about it. I mean he has real I don't. I
35:48
Speaker 1: guess issues struggles in the past game right now. I
35:52
Speaker 1: mean as far as pass walking, um, definitely more comfortable
35:55
Speaker 1: run balking. He's a physical guy. Um, he tried, he
35:59
Speaker 1: gets after. I like his tenacity, I like his you know, desire,
36:03
Speaker 1: But boy, he's a liability one on one right now.
36:07
Speaker 1: You know, when he's in the game, I'm watching him,
36:08
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm hoping they're slide and left because, um,
36:13
Speaker 1: a decent pass rusher gives him problems right now. Yeah, Tony,
36:19
Speaker 1: I think you're dead on. And uh, I think you
36:22
Speaker 1: could probably say that he got better this pass game
36:24
Speaker 1: because it was the Minnesota Vikings and they don't have
36:27
Speaker 1: any great pass rushers number one, but also number two
36:31
Speaker 1: for the most part of the game. Once he had
36:33
Speaker 1: to play a lot. Let's when Leonard went out and
36:35
Speaker 1: Shatley moved the center. Then all of a sudden, ben
36:38
Speaker 1: Barts didn't have a lot of one on ones to
36:42
Speaker 1: where he had to block a guy in a in
36:44
Speaker 1: a pass rush situation and he was on an island
36:47
Speaker 1: with no help. He was only blocking partial guys and
36:50
Speaker 1: so when he struggled is when he's had to block
36:53
Speaker 1: a guy one on one. And and for me, the
36:58
Speaker 1: praise should all be about Tyler Shatley this week. And Tony,
37:02
Speaker 1: I know you watched the film. Here's a guy that,
37:05
Speaker 1: first of all, was having one of his best games
37:06
Speaker 1: at the Garden again against the Viking. But then when
37:09
Speaker 1: Lennard goes out and he switches over the center, he
37:12
Speaker 1: still performs at an incredibly high level. Tyler Shatley is
37:16
Speaker 1: a good football player. Somebody's gonna recognize it. Somebody's gonna
37:20
Speaker 1: sign him to be their starting center next year, because
37:23
Speaker 1: if I'm correct, he is on a one year deal.
37:25
Speaker 1: I thought he did outstanding and the Jaguars are very
37:28
Speaker 1: fortunate to have him because Brandon Lender has shown in
37:32
Speaker 1: the past that he has had some issues staying completely healthy. Jeff,
37:38
Speaker 1: is it just me or is this like by far
37:41
Speaker 1: Shatley's best year, Like by far? Because I like he's
37:46
Speaker 1: like he always felt good with him at center, like
37:49
Speaker 1: not great, but good, But when he had to play
37:52
Speaker 1: guard in the past, you were like his length sometimes
37:54
Speaker 1: got him in trouble with you know, especially in the
37:57
Speaker 1: in the past game, Like he's playing the high level
38:00
Speaker 1: football right now. Like I've been wildly impressed, Like to
38:04
Speaker 1: the point someone was asking me about Shatley and with
38:07
Speaker 1: Lynda getting hurt and everything else, and I've said I'll
38:09
Speaker 1: be honestly, watching the film, it's not like there's much
38:13
Speaker 1: of a drop off when Shatley plays um he I've
38:16
Speaker 1: been really impressed with him, Jeff, and I agree with you.
38:19
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna somebody's gonna ask him to come be a
38:21
Speaker 1: starting center because he's had a good year. And good
38:24
Speaker 1: for him because he's one of the best guys on
38:26
Speaker 1: the team too. If you've ever been around him, I
38:27
Speaker 1: know you have, Jeff, but anyone who's ever been around
38:30
Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley is just a good dude. Yeah, So there
38:36
Speaker 1: you have it. Hey. By the way, the injury report
38:38
Speaker 1: has just come out. We promised that when it came
38:40
Speaker 1: out we would pass along some of the info. John
38:43
Speaker 1: new Smith, the tight end for the Titans, with a
38:46
Speaker 1: knee issue, limited yesterday, but full practice today, So that
38:51
Speaker 1: is trending in the right direction for him. And of
38:54
Speaker 1: course Jenni Smith had two touchdowns against the Jaguars back
38:57
Speaker 1: in Week two. A couple of notes also, A J.
39:01
Speaker 1: Brown is not practiced this week for the Titans with
39:04
Speaker 1: an ankle issue, and that's Wednesday and Thursday for the Jaguars.
39:09
Speaker 1: A bunch of guys limited. Brandon Linder has not practiced
39:12
Speaker 1: this week with an ankle he missed came out of
39:15
Speaker 1: last week's game. So those are the latest on the
39:17
Speaker 1: injury report. Let's touch on receivers here for the Jags.
39:20
Speaker 1: We promised that earlier as well. You know, Colin Johnson's
39:24
Speaker 1: surging in a positive way the last couple of weeks.
39:27
Speaker 1: Is his play has really improved. DJ Chark had seven
39:31
Speaker 1: targets last week, only a couple of catches two guys
39:35
Speaker 1: that not going on the opposite directions. I don't want
39:38
Speaker 1: to say it that bluntly, but how do you get
39:40
Speaker 1: chart back on track and how do you keep riding
39:42
Speaker 1: the way for Colin Johnson? A great question, JP, And
39:50
Speaker 1: and you know everybody keeps saying that DJ is the
39:52
Speaker 1: number one receiver and we gotta get him the ball,
39:56
Speaker 1: and we got to get them more targets. Well, I mean,
39:58
Speaker 1: you're you're you're getting them a lot of targets. I
40:00
Speaker 1: think the opportunity is going to play the quarterback has
40:02
Speaker 1: got to be better. And so until that kind of
40:04
Speaker 1: gets a lot better than that's gonna be what it is.
40:07
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes that that conversation needs to just
40:11
Speaker 1: be hey, look, we just need to find the open guys,
40:13
Speaker 1: and and DJ is a great, big part of our
40:16
Speaker 1: offense and we feel like he's one of our best guys.
40:19
Speaker 1: But but you know, when you continually say that we
40:21
Speaker 1: gotta get on the ball, we gotta get on the ball,
40:23
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes can put undue pressure sometimes on
40:26
Speaker 1: a quarterback or an offense to where sometimes it's you
40:30
Speaker 1: got to find the open guy. If if if that's
40:32
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson, it's Colin Johnson, If it's Keeling Cole, it's
40:34
Speaker 1: Keeling Cole. If it's you know, whoever, it's whoever. And
40:37
Speaker 1: so uh, I like DJ Tchark obviously, and I think
40:41
Speaker 1: he's a really good football player. And I also really
40:43
Speaker 1: like Colin Johnson. I think he's gonna be a marvelous
40:46
Speaker 1: player in the future just with his size, and he
40:48
Speaker 1: gets great separation, and I think that's one of his
40:50
Speaker 1: talents that he's does get great separation. But JP, I
40:53
Speaker 1: don't I don't think. I don't see that there's a
40:55
Speaker 1: fix for fixing seven targets and two catches is for
41:00
Speaker 1: d J Chark like what he had this past week. Well,
41:04
Speaker 1: I'll go a little bit further on that log because,
41:07
Speaker 1: like I'm with you, I think DJ Chark's a fabulous player.
41:10
Speaker 1: I mean a guy, by the way, who you probably
41:13
Speaker 1: want to try to sign before he gets to a
41:14
Speaker 1: trade of year next year. I mean that's a he's
41:17
Speaker 1: a building walk. But when I think about forcing the
41:21
Speaker 1: ball to anyone, which I think is problematic in any offense,
41:24
Speaker 1: I don't care, especially when you're talking about playing your
41:26
Speaker 1: third quarterback of the year. Um, that becomes real issues
41:30
Speaker 1: that developed. And if you're gonna like four like you think,
41:35
Speaker 1: I think about that, it's like one a'ce like there's
41:37
Speaker 1: and there's a handful of those guys in the entire
41:39
Speaker 1: league that like this guy can go win all the time.
41:43
Speaker 1: He's a like just he's one of the best players
41:45
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Think back, Um, like Antonio Brown when
41:49
Speaker 1: he's with the Steelers and they used to force the
41:50
Speaker 1: ball to him because he was dynamic and he got going.
41:53
Speaker 1: He was just a nightmare. Um. I used dj R.
41:58
Speaker 1: He's definitely the number one receiver on this team. But
42:01
Speaker 1: it's not like he's like the star, And I think
42:05
Speaker 1: what you have to do and I think where DJs
42:06
Speaker 1: at his best when it's in the normal flow of
42:08
Speaker 1: the offense, because he can win one on one, and
42:11
Speaker 1: he can create serious matchups, and he is good deep
42:14
Speaker 1: and he's across them. I mean, he's a really good receiver.
42:17
Speaker 1: But I think you do the offensive disservice when you're saying, well,
42:20
Speaker 1: we gotta get him involved and we gotta get him
42:22
Speaker 1: the ball. Um. And again, especially when you're talking about
42:26
Speaker 1: down the line quarterbacks, the third quarterback, because just you
42:28
Speaker 1: start putting under pressure and you start trying to force things,
42:31
Speaker 1: and I think you get out of a rhythm. I
42:33
Speaker 1: ain't the best offenses And where you really see good flow,
42:36
Speaker 1: uh and offenses in a rhythm is when guys are
42:39
Speaker 1: just within the confines of the play winning and the
42:42
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making the right read. And I promise you they're
42:46
Speaker 1: calling plays where DJ Chark is the first read and
42:49
Speaker 1: so just getting to the confines of the offense run
42:52
Speaker 1: to play, go win and then you know, take advantage
42:55
Speaker 1: of the opportunities, which I know DJ will. So I'm
42:58
Speaker 1: with Logs. I think I don't think there's like some
43:00
Speaker 1: magic like levery you pole and then all of a
43:02
Speaker 1: sudden DJ is gonna catch seven balls a game. Um.
43:05
Speaker 1: I think it's just you know, better performance, better execution
43:09
Speaker 1: by everybody. And I think it starts with the quarterback
43:11
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Alright, guys, let's come back. One
43:16
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43:20
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Speaker 1: touched on this earlier Tony, before you joined us, But
47:17
Speaker 1: the Titans offensive line is not quite the offensive line
47:21
Speaker 1: that we have grown accustomed to over the years in Nashville.
47:26
Speaker 1: They have not all kinds of injuries a lot. You know,
47:28
Speaker 1: they lost conquined free agency, so that that's not injury,
47:31
Speaker 1: but they lost him. They drafted the guy, Isaiah Wilson
47:35
Speaker 1: in the first UH round to be the starter. He
47:39
Speaker 1: hasn't been if he isn't done anything. He had I
47:41
Speaker 1: think a d U I. He's had multiple COVID issues,
47:44
Speaker 1: which is obviously not his fault. You know, ended up
47:46
Speaker 1: on the list, had some suspension last week that is
47:49
Speaker 1: you know, we're breaking some rule and now he's put
47:51
Speaker 1: on the non football injury UH illness list. So do
47:55
Speaker 1: you lose that? So you now you're playing a backup
47:57
Speaker 1: in Kelly at you're right tackle position. They gotta second
48:00
Speaker 1: year player who's okay last year right guard. Um, the
48:03
Speaker 1: center is decent, Um Staff I think is a good player,
48:06
Speaker 1: and then you lose your your you know, all pro
48:09
Speaker 1: or at least Pro Bowl caliber left tackle. So they've
48:11
Speaker 1: got all kinds of injuries and because of it, they're
48:14
Speaker 1: not the same group. Yet they still average over points
48:17
Speaker 1: a game offensively. So, um, the offense is line is
48:21
Speaker 1: not living up to what it was last year and
48:23
Speaker 1: in the past where they were pretty physically dominating, still
48:26
Speaker 1: doing enough to score a bunch of points every week. Yeah,
48:30
Speaker 1: the uh Isaiah Roilson is now on the reserve non
48:35
Speaker 1: football illness list, so yeah, he hasn't done some good
48:38
Speaker 1: things on that list. Yeah, not the list you want
48:44
Speaker 1: to be on there. And so the Jags defense has
48:48
Speaker 1: a task ahead of them this week against this here's
48:52
Speaker 1: the sorry interrupted, but here's an amazing logs j P
48:57
Speaker 1: all the injuries, all that you talked about. I just said,
48:59
Speaker 1: they're scoring I think the third in the NFL in
49:01
Speaker 1: scoring offense, and they have one of the top rushers
49:05
Speaker 1: in the NFL and Derrick Henry with a like mash
49:09
Speaker 1: unit in front of them. I got tys Ombrella playing
49:12
Speaker 1: left tackle, who was a former second round pick for
49:15
Speaker 1: the Broncos, who got cut and bounced around and ended
49:17
Speaker 1: up there and was really, what, if you think about it,
49:20
Speaker 1: he's really their fourth tackle going into camp because Dennis
49:23
Speaker 1: Kelly is is the swing guy if Isaiah Wilson the
49:26
Speaker 1: first round or does what they expected to be the starter,
49:29
Speaker 1: and so I give him credit. You know, give Arthur
49:31
Speaker 1: Smith and in that offensive staff a bunch of credit
49:34
Speaker 1: because they're still functioning pretty well in both the pass
49:37
Speaker 1: in the run with a group that you know they
49:41
Speaker 1: were they did not imagine this would be the five
49:44
Speaker 1: guys they'd be playing with. Well Sambrello, Tony ended up
49:48
Speaker 1: on injured reserve. And tackle last week was Quasinberry, who
49:54
Speaker 1: was former Texan also spent time with Tennessee so and
49:59
Speaker 1: and he's he's a it's a survivor. That was his
50:01
Speaker 1: first start. I believe that I forgot all about that
50:04
Speaker 1: Logs thanks that was there was this second second start,
50:08
Speaker 1: non Hodgkins win Foma. That's right, great story, but I'm
50:12
Speaker 1: not sure what that's what they planned at the beginning
50:14
Speaker 1: of year. No, and and trying to block Myles Garrett
50:19
Speaker 1: is not an easy task, he struggled to say the least. Well, listen,
50:24
Speaker 1: you put you put, you put an all pro out there,
50:27
Speaker 1: you know, or probo cub or trust me, it had
50:29
Speaker 1: been a great matchup. Um, you know if they have
50:33
Speaker 1: their front line. But it's still not I don't care
50:35
Speaker 1: who you are this league, walk of Miles Garrett. Um,
50:38
Speaker 1: it's not easy. And uh you know he uh one
50:41
Speaker 1: of the better players in the NFL. Alright, guys, So
50:47
Speaker 1: four games to go, it's an eleven game losing skid
50:49
Speaker 1: now and a few of the last stretch here have
50:54
Speaker 1: been relatively close. The Jacksons haven't been able to finish
50:57
Speaker 1: and get that elusive W. So you know what's left
51:02
Speaker 1: this year? You can wreck some other team's playoff chances, Tony.
51:06
Speaker 1: If you can go get a W or two down
51:08
Speaker 1: the stretch here and rally the troops, that's what's left.
51:11
Speaker 1: You just want to Yeah, that's all to left, and
51:13
Speaker 1: we just want to win. I mean, as a player,
51:15
Speaker 1: you're working hard, you're working on week is coach's death,
51:17
Speaker 1: you're spending you're burning the midnight you know, you know,
51:20
Speaker 1: the midnight hours of trying to get ready and prepare
51:23
Speaker 1: your guys, and so everyone's working harder. When you lose,
51:25
Speaker 1: there's no payoff, And so yeah, I'm not sure you
51:28
Speaker 1: think about, hey, let's ruin someone's playoff chances. It's a
51:32
Speaker 1: nice storyline. You just want to win. Like losing stinks,
51:37
Speaker 1: It is awful, like in all the hard work, you
51:39
Speaker 1: don't get that payoff. In my concern, and we said
51:41
Speaker 1: it last week and it didn't happen. I'm worried about
51:44
Speaker 1: the damned burst where you see like just the injuries
51:48
Speaker 1: and the young players and the wear and tear of
51:51
Speaker 1: this team and not having a ton of talent or
51:55
Speaker 1: difference makers as well. When does that catch up? Because
51:58
Speaker 1: it hasn't yet. And the reason it hasn't is because
52:00
Speaker 1: these guys play so hard. You gotta give Doug and
52:02
Speaker 1: the staff credit, you the players credit, because they do
52:06
Speaker 1: play hard every week. And when you play hard in
52:08
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're gonna stay in games. But boy, Jeff,
52:11
Speaker 1: you and I talked about it in the pregame, when's
52:13
Speaker 1: the damn break and you have one of those weeks
52:15
Speaker 1: where it just everything adds up and it just goes
52:18
Speaker 1: the wrong way. Yeah, and right now it hasn't broke,
52:21
Speaker 1: so that's amazing. I mean, I think the players deserve
52:25
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Like you said, the coaches deserve
52:27
Speaker 1: credit because they're coming out and they're fighting their butts
52:30
Speaker 1: off and it's easy to not and so look, if
52:37
Speaker 1: this team comes out and fights like crazy against Tennessee,
52:40
Speaker 1: kudos to them, and I hope that they get a win,
52:43
Speaker 1: because you know, what the reality is is that even
52:45
Speaker 1: though it short lived as far as the enjoyment of
52:47
Speaker 1: winning in the National Football League, at least you get
52:50
Speaker 1: some enjoyment in the year that's just been absolutely painful.
52:54
Speaker 1: When I say painful from the standpoint of there's been
52:57
Speaker 1: so many challenges this year with OVID and the way
53:01
Speaker 1: things have been going as far as the way you
53:02
Speaker 1: got to conduct your business. You almost feel like that
53:07
Speaker 1: this team should deserves to have some positive feeling because
53:11
Speaker 1: they've worked hard and they fought hard. It seems like
53:14
Speaker 1: almost every game, I mean, the only game that hasn't
53:16
Speaker 1: been competitive for the most part has been the Pittsburgh
53:18
Speaker 1: Steelers game. But you go back and you look at
53:21
Speaker 1: the past number of five, six, seven, games. This team
53:24
Speaker 1: has been in it, and they've had opportunities to darn
53:27
Speaker 1: there win every game. Yeah, and I think this guy
53:32
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's gonna be this week, Um,
53:35
Speaker 1: but I really believe this team is gonna win again
53:37
Speaker 1: this year if they keep on playing as hard as
53:39
Speaker 1: they do. It's just how, in my opinion, the NFL works.
53:42
Speaker 1: If you play hard and you compete every week, you're
53:45
Speaker 1: going the ball is gonna bounce your way sooner or later.
53:47
Speaker 1: And um, hopefully it's this week. But I really do
53:50
Speaker 1: think and I'll just echo what Jeff said, kudos the
53:52
Speaker 1: guys to do the coaches, and I just hope they
53:55
Speaker 1: continue to find hopefully the guys to continue they don't
53:58
Speaker 1: keep on having these injuries. Um, but guys keep on
54:01
Speaker 1: showing up the way they are because they will win
54:03
Speaker 1: a game if they keep doing this weekend a week out. Yeah,
54:06
Speaker 1: this is uh. I think the Jaguars have had the
54:09
Speaker 1: most players to play a snap in a game in
54:14
Speaker 1: the NFL this year. I think seventy seven different players
54:17
Speaker 1: have played this year. I mean, it's the most in
54:19
Speaker 1: the league. And that tells you what this team has
54:22
Speaker 1: gone through. The turnover, the attrition and everything. So I
54:25
Speaker 1: mean you're literally signing guys on Tuesday and making sure
54:28
Speaker 1: they passed COVID, showing up on Friday or Saturday and
54:31
Speaker 1: playing on Sunday. That's how it's been a few times
54:34
Speaker 1: this year. And to keep everything together for what it's
54:38
Speaker 1: been has been pretty remarkable so far, and there have
54:40
Speaker 1: been some good storylines. Some of these young guys are
54:44
Speaker 1: improving as this year goes along, right, I mean, especially
54:47
Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier, Jeff but Tony on the
54:49
Speaker 1: defensive lines. Some of those guys are starting to play
54:51
Speaker 1: a little bit better as the year goes on. We've
54:53
Speaker 1: seen the improvement of a guy like Colin Johnson step
54:56
Speaker 1: in and and get an opportunity later in the year
54:59
Speaker 1: and he stepped up, played well. James Robinson just continues
55:02
Speaker 1: to grow. So there are some positives. I know, it's
55:06
Speaker 1: one and eleven. It's eleven straight losses. That's what the
55:09
Speaker 1: wins and losses are, the the ultimate thing you look at.
55:12
Speaker 1: But there are some things, you know, very few things
55:16
Speaker 1: you can hang your hat on and say that are
55:18
Speaker 1: getting better around here. I'm cautious when I say that,
55:22
Speaker 1: but no, JP, you're right, I mean listen all the
55:26
Speaker 1: I mean the fans care about and what everyone everyone
55:29
Speaker 1: cares about the end of the day, it's wins and
55:30
Speaker 1: losses and point we're on the wrong side of that
55:33
Speaker 1: ledger right now. But if you look at let's take
55:36
Speaker 1: it a step below and look at the younger some
55:38
Speaker 1: of the young players, what they've been put into and
55:40
Speaker 1: what the how they've developed. James Robinson, we don't need
55:42
Speaker 1: to talk about him. I mean, he's one of the
55:44
Speaker 1: better running backs in the n f C, in the
55:45
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um but I'll just call one guy out.
55:48
Speaker 1: You already talked about Colin Johnson. Done Coston, an undrafted
55:52
Speaker 1: rookie free agent from Miami of Ohio, and he has
55:57
Speaker 1: come in and is one and earned a starting job,
56:00
Speaker 1: beating out of the past first Strouder and Tavin Bryant.
56:04
Speaker 1: And not just because there's no one else, and maybe
56:08
Speaker 1: if there there isn't anybody else, but if you watch them,
56:11
Speaker 1: they've gotten better as a defense and a run defense
56:14
Speaker 1: with him playing that three technique, and that's impressive. And
56:17
Speaker 1: guess what, I believe he's a guy. But he's gonna
56:19
Speaker 1: come back into camp next year. I'm not saying he's
56:21
Speaker 1: the starter, but boy, he's a rotation guy that you
56:24
Speaker 1: feel good about putting in the game. And he's shown
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Speaker 1: that he has the ability to compete at this level.
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Speaker 1: That's a win. I mean, that's a good stuff right there.
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Speaker 1: And guys like Doun Constant are are developing, and uh,
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Speaker 1: that's a little bit of good news. You gotta hang
56:37
Speaker 1: your hat on something, don't you. Good news, But at
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Speaker 1: the same token, it's kind of bad news. And that
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Speaker 1: you now have a first round pick who's a bubble guy,
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Speaker 1: and that's been hurting this football team for many years,
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Speaker 1: is that you're you're missing and we have a first
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Speaker 1: round pick who right now doesn't even deserve a second
56:59
Speaker 1: look at another contract. That's a problem. I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to be positive as we end this
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Speaker 1: before you go to the coach. I agree. Yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: trying to finish on the up slope here. That's okay.
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Speaker 1: We're wrapping up. Sorry guys, Titans h Happy holidays to
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Speaker 1: you as well. So the Jags and the Titans come
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Speaker 1: up Week four team second time around. I mean, obviously, guys,
57:30
Speaker 1: these organizations are these teams have gone in totally different
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Speaker 1: directions since Week two. Um, you know, it was the
57:35
Speaker 1: first loss for the Jaguars. They haven't won since then.
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Speaker 1: The Titans are in first place, toning it quickly. Are
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Speaker 1: the Titans sustainable? Can they go win this thing? I
57:46
Speaker 1: don't oh the division? Yeah, I think they can. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, their defense is so bad.
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Speaker 1: They can't get off the field, they can't rush the
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Speaker 1: passer um, They're really not good anywhere on the defense
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Speaker 1: if you really look at it, and I just don't
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Speaker 1: think it's sustainable in the playoffs. They have a good offense,
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Speaker 1: they have good skilled players. Obviously there kenry Um good
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Speaker 1: run game, but I just think they're not good enough
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Speaker 1: defensive way to make a deep run in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Logs thinks it's gonna be a tight game. What do
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Speaker 1: you think? Bo I did too, because they showed this
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Speaker 1: team shows up, Jaxville shows up. They play hard, they
58:18
Speaker 1: play physical. Um, I think you know they're gonna give
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Speaker 1: Tennessee all they want. I like it tight ball games.
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Speaker 1: If the Jags can finish it this week against the
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and bo we will talk to you on
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Speaker 1: Sunday in Week four. Team looking forward to guys, Tell
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Speaker 1: Tell Doug I said, hello, I think you just did.
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Speaker 1: He listens to the last segment usually every week from
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Speaker 1: his office at t I A bank Field. Tony Vasselli
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Speaker 1: out of here prior to the Jaguars left tackle joining
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Speaker 1: us each week. Alright, logs final thoughts here. Uh, it's
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Speaker 1: a long losing skin, a division rival coming in in
58:54
Speaker 1: first place that you know very well, and it's a
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Speaker 1: matchup that you think he's gonna be pretty tight. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do. I think it's I think it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: tyke ballgame. I think the Jaguars have done a pretty
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Speaker 1: good job against some of the running backs that they faced. Cleveland,
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Speaker 1: they kind of held them down for a while. And
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Speaker 1: then obviously with Dalvin Cook, I thought they did a
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Speaker 1: pretty good job against him. He had to have a
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Speaker 1: lot of touches to get where he was at. This
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Speaker 1: week's a big challenge with Derrick Henry and Cleveland Browns
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Speaker 1: did a good job stopping him, so the Jaguars can
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Speaker 1: hopefully do a good job stopping him as well. All Right,
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Speaker 1: Stick Around network coverage starts next with the Doug Moron Show.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars head coach joins us from his office at
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Speaker 1: t I a A bank Field. Thanks to Tony BASELDI
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Speaker 1: and for our entire crew and Jeff Logman. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and for watching. It's Jaguars Happy
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