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Ian Maxwell And The 20/20 Interview (5/27/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: Our article today is from the Sun headline Maxwell Murder.
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  Gilan Maxwell believes disgraced tycoon Dad Robert was murdered after
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  he was found drowned. Her brother reveals this article was
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  authored by M. L. Nestle. Well, look, this is something
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  you're not gonna you haven't heard very often on the podcast.
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  I actually agree with Gelan Maxwell. What do you know?
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  The Lady of complain is onto something here? I think
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  because I don't think her dad fell off the boat
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  having a whiz. Come on, man, somebody like that just
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  gets up there. He's out there, completely ass naked, middle
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  of the water, Canary off the Canary Islands, having a
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  whiz off the side of the boat, and it just
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  happens to fall in. Okay, oh all right, sure, I
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  guess that's what you want me to believe. But I
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  don't believe that. Okay. Now, I don't know what happened
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  with me Maxwell, who could have been involved, if anyone
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  was involved, but the official narrative certainly hard for me
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  to believe that official narrative. So it is not often
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  you'll see me aligned with old Lady of Complain, But
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  here we are, I guess because I don't think Robert
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  Maxwell fell off that boat. Either Gilain Maxwell's suspects, your
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  media mogul father was assassinated after he drowned off the
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  coast of Morocco thirty years ago. Gilaine, uniquely in our family,
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  has always thought he was murdered, and she's alone in that.
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  But it's her profound conviction and that is what happened,
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  said Ian Maxwell, older brother of the fifty nine year
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  old accused madam to the late billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,
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  during an appearance in a television documentary, accused madam. So
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  we're still on that even in the sun. All right, well,
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  let me correct that for you. How about general all
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  around scusbag. How about fellow child abuser and how about
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  bipedal serpent? How about we go with that instead? What
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  do you think? And Ian Maxwell is putting on the
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  full court press, right, this dude is going to the
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  nines for his sister. Imagine going that far for your sister,
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  somebody you didn't really even have contact with, according to him,
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  throughout this whole time period, and truly believing that she's
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  not guilty of any of these charges, even in the
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  face of all of this evidence. I know team Maxwell
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  keeps talking about all this evidence that they have, but
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  I haven't seen any of it, have you? Words are
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  wind right. So unless you have some evidence, circumstantial evidence,
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  even to bring to the table and present to everybody,
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  you're going to continue to look like a jerk offie
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  in Maxwell may point blank period, A little American candor
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  there for you, Pal, You're looking like quite the jerk
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  off right now. Mountains of evidence, testimony, eyewitness statements all
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  pointed directly at your sister, And what do you have
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  for us? Words and guesses and this and that and
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  nobody believes you? How about that? The siblings shared his
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  thoughts on the loss of their father, his fortune, and
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  undivided support for his young sister in the twenty twenty
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  documentary Notorious Gelane Maxwell. Now, there's a relatively long article
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  from ABC News about this interview, and I'm going to
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  dive into that and start recording it. I'm not sure
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  when i'll finish. Like I said, it's a relatively long article,
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  but I'm hoping by uh, I don't know, maybe Monday
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  or so to have the whole thing complete. Then I
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  can just pump it out real quick. But it was
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  a good interview. I mean, it was a decent show
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  twenty twenty last night, some some good parts of it.
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  I won't spoil it too much in case you haven't
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  watched it yet. Like with the Geeland, Maxwell want to
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  give it over the weekend or so so that you
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  folks have a chance to check it out. But it
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  was a decent addition by ABC to the portfolio, right.
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  It was Again I appreciate the fact that there's information
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  going out there into the mainstream about the case. I
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  just wish those who were bringing the message weren't people
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  like ABC or Peacock, right. I really wish that there
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  was an independent content creator or independent investigative journalist who
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  had the resources to really make a proper documentary on
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  all of this. Maxwell had been out on the high
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  seas aboard his yacht, aptly named Lady Gee Laine, navigating
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  around the Spanish Archipelago archipelago, just nine months after he
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  purchased The New York Daily News. So nine months after
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  purchasing The Daily News, he's out there having himself a
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  nice float on his yacht, living the life, probably in
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  all kinds of fucking food and sloppy rubbing his hands
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  all over his pants. You know how these slobsters are.
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  So he's floating around, decides he's gonna wake up in
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  the middle of the night. Oh, I have to go
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  to the bathroom. This is the official narrative, by the way,
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  Oh I have to go to the bathroom. So I'm
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  gonna trapes up middle of the ocean, go up onto
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  the deck and stand on the railing drop trow or
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  in his case, just walk up there because I guess
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  he was naked, and have a leak. Does that sound
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  like something someone does in the middle of the night.
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  I mean, I know when I get up to go
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  to the bathroom, I'm single minded in my purpose, Folks.
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  I'm not looking to go have an adventure up on
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  the deck of his ship. We're going to have a leak.
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  I'm going back to bed. This guy woke up in
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  the middle of the night and thought, oh, I'm gonna
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  go do some star gazing while I have a pee.
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  Doesn't make sense to me. And now I'm not saying
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  that that definitely didn't happen, right, I'm not saying he
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  didn't fall off the boat. I'm saying to me and
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  with my spidey sense, it does not ring true, a
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  guy like that doesn't just fall off of a boat,
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  in my opinion, folks, On the morning of November fifth,
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  nineteen ninety one, Maxwell was missing and the crew suspected
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  he died after falling overboard. According to ABC News, his
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  body was discovered by authorities floating in the water. I mean,
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  this guy was so foul, such a foul human being,
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  such a disgusting human being, that even the aquatic wildlife
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  didn't want to have a bite. Didn't get eaten by
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  a shark, didn't get munched on by a barracuda, a
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  giant squid, didn't come up and snatch his body down
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  to the depths, none of that. This stank ass gross
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  mf was such a grody person, such a disgusting individual,
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  that even scavengers of the sea wanted nothing to do
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  with him. The official cause of her father's death was
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  a heart attack and drowning, but there were theories his
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  death wasn't an accident or a suicide. It was soon
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  learned Maxwell had squandered a fortune by miss using employee
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  pension funds in the UK to keep his publishing and
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  media businesses afloat. The Outlet reported, Yeah, just a quality guy, right.
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  I mean, who what sort of a human being steals
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  from pensions, from their employees, steals from the very people
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  who helped make your company what it is? Talk about
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  scumbag level epic. These people that steal from their employees,
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  that embezzle money from hard working folks who are just
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  trying to set themselves a right for the future. Those
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  people are right up there with some of the biggest
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  scumbags in the world folks. Okay, and Robert Maxwell and
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  his family, they were They loved to play that game,
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  didn't they. Two of his sons, Kevin and Ian Maxwell
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  himself were brought up on fraud charges tied to their
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  father's pension money scam, but ended up getting quitted and
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  absolved of any wrongdoing. ABC News reported, I mean, I
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  guess when you have contacts, you got money, you got
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  dough you know people easy to get acquitted, huh, easy
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  to walk, easy to beat that rap. And the Maxwells
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  certainly knew people, didn't they. They certainly had some power
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  and they certainly had the ability to beat the rap.
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  That's why I don't think Robert Maxwell killed himself either.
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  You really think he would have went down for that.
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  All the people he knew. Think about the current climate
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  back then, you really think Maxwell was going to prison?
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  I highly doubt it. Folks Now, could he have rated
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  on somebody or talked about something he knows? Of course,
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  and considering he was under these charges and people knew
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  that things were about to go south for him, maybe
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  they wanted to cut ties. Maybe they wanted to burn
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  all associations. Because we know in that world, the world
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  of spycraft, the world of assets, the world of compremont,
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  is filled with stories of assets being burned when they
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  have outlived their usefulness. So why should this be any difference?
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  In this case, the family's business collapsed and the financial
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  devastation uprooted them from their Oxford, England home, while a
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  fire sale of his valuables took place. Months after she
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  became fatherless, Gelaane was photographed by at London's Heathrow Airport
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  with New York City prep school teacher turned businessman Jeffrey Epstein,
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  businessman turned pedophile, born pedophile, born sick, born, broken, born disgusting.
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  Glaine Maxwell admitted in twenty sixteen at a deposition that
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  she and Epstein were introduced by a mutual friend. The
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  pair carried on a love affair, and she they had
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  a close bond for several years. I don't buy that. Again,
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  I've said that several times. I don't believe there was
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  ever any love between these two where they romantically involved.
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  I don't know. Maybe, honestly, I have no idea. But
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  the fact that anyone would try and sell me some
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  bs that Maxwell and Epstein were in love or they
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  were really dating, is laughable. At best. They were assets
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  doing their thing. That's what they were doing. They were
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  playing a game, and they were playing the grand game,
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  folks Ian. Maxwell noted that he had met Epstein, but
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  stressed he lacked any knowledge of their life or life
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  that Elaine was leading at the time, in any great detail.
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  Well then, how would you know what she's doing? How
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  can you be so confident that she wasn't doing what
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  she's being accused of. You didn't know about her life.
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  You weren't hanging out with her, You didn't know Epstein.
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  You weren't running around in New York, were you. I
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  and Maxwell? So basically you and I know about as
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  much about what was going on in Geelang's life as
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  anyone then, right, Because I know as much as you.
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  You weren't there, You don't know. So how could he
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  sit there and act like he has any idea when
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  he himself admits that he had no idea. He wasn't
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  around then, he wasn't part of her life. He had
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  no idea what she was up to. That life was
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  allegedly fast, luxurious, and allegedly criminal. Maxwell is facing sex
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  trafficking charges for recruiting and grooming young girls for her
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  former lover Epstein sixty six, who was found dead in
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  his Manhattan jail cell in twenty nineteen after being held
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  on his own sex trafficking rap Ian said he and
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  his family believe in their younger sister's innocence. They also
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  suggest she is the victim of a Svengali in Epstein.
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  Oh and there you go. That's going to be the position, folks.
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  Get ready for it. I know it's going to make
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  a lot of you sick, but get ready for it.
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  They're going to try and paint her as a victim,
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  as somebody who was victimized by Epstein and somebody who
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  had Stockholm syndrome. Basically, that's going to be their argument.
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  That's going to be their defense. And you could already
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  see it. Forming Epstein is dead, he said in the
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  twenty twenty interview The Crimes. He was then indicted within
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  twenty nineteen. He never faced. But Gilaine is not Epstein. No,
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  you're right. She's a co conspirator, fellow boss, ran her
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  own crew, the Core four, and was involved in grooming, and,
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  according to the survivors, abuse herself. So no, she's not Epstein,
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  but she's the same. He suggests that once the facts
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  see daylight, the public will know the truth. Oh, okay,
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  sure they will. What are you waiting for? Ian? What
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  are you waiting for? If you guys had a bombshell,
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  if you guys had something that could turn public opinion,
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  you'd use it. You do not have anything, okay, And
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  all of your attempts to manufacture something have been due too.
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  So here you are with nothing left to do but
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  give interviews and talk about evidence that nobody has seen.
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  Has anybody seen it? Have you provided it to anybody?
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  Ian Maxwell, They've never heard the defense to all of this,
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  He said, these are very serious charges, But at the
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  same time, I also thought, this is not my sister.
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  She could not have possibly be involved in this kind
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  of activity. How would you know you were never there,
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  So how do you know Just because someone is your
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  sister or your family doesn't mean that they're not capable
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  of these sorts of crimes. And for Ian Maxwell to
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  say here and act like he knows for a fact, boy,
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  that's a bold strategy. Cotton, the brother, mocked the overkill
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  raid on his siblings New Hampshire country home last summer.
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  When the woman was brought into custody. She's arrested with hooplah,
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  with helicopters and the FBI running around. It's pure prejudice,
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  he said, Ian Maxwell. I don't know if you know
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  this or not, but that's how raids work in the
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  United States. The FBI shows up ready to rock, helicopters, tanks,
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  the whole thing. All right, that's what the FBI does.
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  And frankly, your sister got off easy. Have you ever
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  seen the way they like to raid people in the
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  inner cities? Ever hear of no knock warrants? Ian Maxwell,
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  and all of these people that run around with the
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  so called elite are so out of touch with the
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  rest of us. She remains that Metropolitan Detention Center in
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  Brooklyn while awaiting trial. The former socialite general all around
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  scusbeg and philanthropist has pleaded not guilty to the federal
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  charges lodged against her. So there you have it, folks
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  Ian Maxwell. He's telling us that there is evidence we
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  don't know about, and his sister's gonna be innocent. Meanwhile,
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  the rest of the world sitting around saying to themselves,
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  if you got it, you show it to us, because
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  without any evidence, without any bombshells that nobody knows about
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  your sister, my friend is going to be a state,
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  i mean, a guest of the state for quite some time.
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  And all the loopholes, all the technicalities, all the crying
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  in the world can't stop the Karma train from reaching
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  its destination. If you'd like to contact me, you can
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  do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's
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  c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
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