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Ep. 425: The Liberal Redneck · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Joined today by comedian and commentator Trey Crowder. Yeah you might.
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  Speaker 1: You might know him as you might know him as
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  Speaker 1: the liberal redneck or Chattanooga Phil chat Charlie. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get to that in a minute. Also also by
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  Speaker 1: our beautiful lovely engineer Phil Krin's here nest is here? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: chattan Uga Charlie. You were you're you're fixing talking about
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  Speaker 1: chattan Nuga Charlie. Yeah, you asked if I had been
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  Speaker 1: any TV shows and said, I played this guy Chattanooga
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  Speaker 1: Charlie and Veronica Mars. I was like, you know, quite
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  Speaker 1: a stretch. Obviously they had to show my range, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know a guy from Tennessee they could do this, right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and another while I get to that in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: but you said, so, like, what kind of character was it?
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  Speaker 1: And so John Mullaney, this great comic, had this whole
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  Speaker 1: bit making fun of law and Order, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I love how they always go to interview some bartender
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  Speaker 1: and this guy like refuses to stop stacking by boxes
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  Speaker 1: to discuss the horrific murder that has occurred, right, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I said I was one of those guys like
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  Speaker 1: it was. It's set in like southern California, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a Southern themed restaurant owned by Chattanooga Charlie, and there's
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  Speaker 1: been a series of bombings and so like I'm sweeping
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  Speaker 1: up peanuts while talking about these terrorist attacks or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But that's pretty much it. It was a lot of fun, though, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say after and I normally don't read
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  Speaker 1: comments like this because you know, I'll get fired up
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But when those episodes came out. I saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people on the internet being like, I
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  Speaker 1: thought this episode was pretty good, but like that Chattanooga
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  Speaker 1: Charlie guy. I don't know what that accent was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be. But that's not that is not Tennessee. I
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  Speaker 1: hope he realizes that. Good luck to him in the future. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was terrible. People think that my accents fake all
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  Speaker 1: the time, like all the time. You know, well, I
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  Speaker 1: can imagine living in la and oh, I mean out
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  Speaker 1: there for sure, but out there, like yeah, people will
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  Speaker 1: compliment me on it. They'll be like, oh, I love
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  Speaker 1: that accent. I mean, if it's real, Like if that's
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  Speaker 1: your real accent, I don't know if it's because like
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  Speaker 1: so I think you're a methodist. That's exactly what. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're in Hollywood. Maybe they're like, oh, maybe he's prepping
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  Speaker 1: for a role as a possum detective. But uh, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about on the internet and stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people just don't I don't know, they don't buy it.
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  Speaker 1: But this is all Clay County, Tennessee. You're right here.
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  Speaker 1: This is just what it is. When you when you tour,
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  Speaker 1: when you tour for you for stand up, you tour
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  Speaker 1: as the liberal redneck. No, I just tour as Tray Crowder.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, when your commentary, like you have your commentary bits,
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  Speaker 1: is well, how I became familiar with you. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: that's true for most people, and like, uh, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to be like, you know, I purely identified
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  Speaker 1: as a character or whatever, like, because I was doing
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  Speaker 1: stand up for six years in Knoxville and around the
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  Speaker 1: South before I ever put those videos out, and I
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  Speaker 1: was always just Tray Crowder on stage. So I kept
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  Speaker 1: doing that. So when you start doing your commentary video
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  Speaker 1: as you kind of launched that character, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a character and that it's like me cranked
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit or whatever. But I had a
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  Speaker 1: I had been doing a bit about that on stage
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  Speaker 1: at the time, like basically just talking about how everybody
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  Speaker 1: thinks my accent means a certain thing because that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing they ever see this accent portrayed as in
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  Speaker 1: the media or whatever. So I wanted to balance the
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  Speaker 1: scales by being just as crazy and redneck in public,
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  Speaker 1: but saying a bunch of superliberal stuff that should throw
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  Speaker 1: people off or whatever, and I would do that on stage.
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  Speaker 1: It worked. It worked in like Southern clubs and everything
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  Speaker 1: like it was working, and I told my friends, I
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  Speaker 1: think I want to do a like an internet video
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  Speaker 1: series based on that idea, and everybody's like, you totally
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  Speaker 1: should do that. It sounds like a great idea. And
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  Speaker 1: then uh, finally I got around to it, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing that blew up and sort of allowed
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  Speaker 1: me to go full time and everything, and it's what
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  Speaker 1: most people know me for. But have you have you
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  Speaker 1: seen the curb your enthusiasm where Larry You know, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like ever have to talk to anybody, so he
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  Speaker 1: gets he loves in LA and he does like to
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  Speaker 1: talk aboys some one day he gets himself and to
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  Speaker 1: make America great again. Hat. Yeah, like nobody where he
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  Speaker 1: goes don't says anything to him. Yeah, so he's sitting
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  Speaker 1: a restaurant, no one sits by him. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that he finally gets to live his dream of having
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  Speaker 1: zero social interaction. It definitely would be would be useful
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  Speaker 1: out there, but but I only every time I see
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  Speaker 1: somebody in one of those hats in LA, they're usually
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  Speaker 1: like doing the talking for everybody else, Like they're in
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  Speaker 1: a gas station up by the clerk just like going
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  Speaker 1: in on you know, inflation or whatever. But I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to clarify the commentary that we're speaking of his
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's on Instagram and I put them on all
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  Speaker 1: the social media okay side YouTube. Yeah, it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: like Twitter to tell you what it is. First off,
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  Speaker 1: news commentary, Yeah, common current event. I'll take like something
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  Speaker 1: that just happened, and then I'll do a little like
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  Speaker 1: comedic rant about it. And I always, dude, try to
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  Speaker 1: like actually put jokes into it so it's not just
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  Speaker 1: like Soapbox Center or whatever, because like I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. I want them to be funny and
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  Speaker 1: I have this is my real accent, and I'm a progressive,
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  Speaker 1: so like, I mean there you go. You know, well,
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  Speaker 1: like people at first, like people are like there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people in the South that you know who
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  Speaker 1: are also like me, who when they see it, their
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  Speaker 1: reactions like, oh, finally somebody who like both sounds and
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  Speaker 1: thinks the way I do. Right. But and then the
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  Speaker 1: people in like the rest of the country, like on
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  Speaker 1: the coast and stuff, they're like, well, this is neat.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a thing. You like, you're
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  Speaker 1: like seeing a unicorn, you know, like it's a novelty.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I was trying to today when I
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  Speaker 1: was driving around driving my kid in school, I was
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  Speaker 1: telling about who's coming out on the show, and I
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  Speaker 1: got to talk about I had to explain the terms, right.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, this guy is like the
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  Speaker 1: liberal redneck, and I said, I was trying to think
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  Speaker 1: of what's the opposite of a liberal redneck and to
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  Speaker 1: be that I come up with us. Remember William F. Buckley,
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  Speaker 1: It's like like the very austere British conservative guy, and
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  Speaker 1: there's like that's the opposite of a little redneck would
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  Speaker 1: be William F. Buckley Junior. You know that the best
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  Speaker 1: I come up with conservative barraste might be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more understood. Kids. I'll try it when I get
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  Speaker 1: home for dinner night. I'll try it. H speaking of
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  Speaker 1: my kids kind of man, we were in um we're
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  Speaker 1: in so we went down to Baja for spring break
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  Speaker 1: and we're coming home, like I see this thing that
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  Speaker 1: I see like a like a there's a guy standing
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  Speaker 1: in there. There's something like just so distracting where he's
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  Speaker 1: like a fit, thin dude, but he's got one of
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  Speaker 1: those he's got like you know when you get like
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  Speaker 1: a like a big beer gut that just hangs real
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  Speaker 1: flat down over your belt. Yeah, and that realized those
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  Speaker 1: fanny pack made to look like a big hairy like
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  Speaker 1: fanny pack made it look like a big hairy gut
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  Speaker 1: hanging out of your T shirt. Classic dude. I kept
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  Speaker 1: being like, what is that? It doesn't match his skin.
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  Speaker 1: They call that a dumb lap. No, they oh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you're belly dun lapped over your belt. I
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  Speaker 1: like that, but man we um. Yeah, we had a
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  Speaker 1: great time. We did a lot of spearfishing down in Baja.
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  Speaker 1: And then I had something um like, if you look
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  Speaker 1: at the fishing regulations in Mexico, which is always confusing. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they got, so you don't need any license to fish
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  Speaker 1: from the beach. Okay, so any saltwater fishing from the beach,
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  Speaker 1: no license. There's a license for fishing from the boat.
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  Speaker 1: But I actually got checked in Mexico by like the
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  Speaker 1: Baja version of a game warden and got a warning
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  Speaker 1: because he said you need a fishing license. It's very
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  Speaker 1: hard to get through this conversation because I don't speak
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  Speaker 1: ship for Spanish, and he knew like some English. So
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to help me out. It's like, you
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  Speaker 1: need a fishing license, man, because I'm fishing from the shore.
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  Speaker 1: But then there's a third category that I think they
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  Speaker 1: added it in recently, is so there's fishing from the shore,
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  Speaker 1: there's fishing from a boat, and then there's fishing underwater.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so you're a spear fishing You mean underwater? Right
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  Speaker 1: underwater from the shore. You need a license? Huh I
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  Speaker 1: got off on a warning. Did you recognize you? No?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not. Uh. Okay, people got it right in here.
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  Speaker 1: We need to do so we need what should where
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  Speaker 1: are they supposed to send these uh to meat eater
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  Speaker 1: at the meat eater dot com. Normal spot. Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: do normal spot, and but they should title it chettikett. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we know what to look for. Yeah, we have
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  Speaker 1: we have a call for submissions. We're doing a show
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  Speaker 1: all about etiquette, which really to call Chettikette because we
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  Speaker 1: use our etiquette guy Chester to help us wade through
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  Speaker 1: etiquette problems. We get all kinds of etiquette things anyways,
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  Speaker 1: like recently the guys that play leap frog with their
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  Speaker 1: tree stands on the same tree on State Land where
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  Speaker 1: they always moved their climber above the other guy's climber
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  Speaker 1: and all that etiquette questions or like, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you take your There's a guy that takes his brother
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  Speaker 1: in law hunting at a spot, but then his brother
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  Speaker 1: in law, his sister, and his brother in law get divorced,
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  Speaker 1: and the brother in law keeps going to the spot
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  Speaker 1: and he feels like how could that because they got divorced,
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  Speaker 1: so you can't go to the spot anymore. Shit like
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  Speaker 1: that etiquette questions, chetica questions. You got to send us
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  Speaker 1: a shitload of chetika questions. How did Chester become the
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  Speaker 1: etiquette guy? I don't know. I don't know how that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think largely because etiquette sounds because Chatticotte
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  Speaker 1: is funny. Yeah, that's usually how they go around. Like
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  Speaker 1: there's no real reason other than we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: etiquette one day and someone made the joke about Chetticutte
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, he's a very ethical kind Yeah. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you know how it was too is we were we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about boat launch etiquette, right, Yes, there's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of questions about boat launch etiquette, and Chester, having
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  Speaker 1: been a fishing guide, had a lot of opinions about
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  Speaker 1: how to how one should get their boat in the
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  Speaker 1: water in prompt fashion when add a crowded boat launch,
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  Speaker 1: and so someone made the Chatticott joke. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: like he's particularly credential necessarily. It's just that Cheticott sounds funny,
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  Speaker 1: and jannice E tikuittunny j Yeah, it sounds like another
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  Speaker 1: disease bad casey. Oh. Also it's late. We got to
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  Speaker 1: throw a birthday wish to Carter Hudson, who just turned
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  Speaker 1: eleven the other day on St. Patty's Day. Whenever someone
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast swears he the uh, Carter's dad has
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  Speaker 1: to explain to his wife why it's okay that he
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  Speaker 1: listens to his show that has cussing in it. Loves
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  Speaker 1: the show. He didn't quite read that right. He says
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  Speaker 1: that everything that you do, the kid also does. So
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: the kid's like, well, if Steve's cussing on his show,
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  Speaker 1: I can cuss two and his dad has to explain
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  Speaker 1: that that's okay. Oh, there's value. We're really really cleaned.
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  Speaker 1: Um it up. I think big times. It's the show
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  Speaker 1: is laughing. Well, it's just I also edit bear grease
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  Speaker 1: and there's some very different sensorship rules. He's got a
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  Speaker 1: guest that says, I don't know what the hell I
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  Speaker 1: was hearing. It'll be like I didn't know what the
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  Speaker 1: baby was here? Yeah? What Sam? Pretty much? So happy
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  Speaker 1: birthday to to Carter Hudson Nanks his dad Morgan for
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  Speaker 1: right and in um northing. Speaking of kids, So this
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  Speaker 1: is so we've been talking a bunch about the book
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  Speaker 1: you've been working on, which isn't out yet, but we
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  Speaker 1: have a new kids activity book, Catch a Crayfish Count
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  Speaker 1: the Stars, availed for pre order now. Now. We announced
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  Speaker 1: this book on Amazon. There's if you scroll away, beep
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  Speaker 1: down on Amazon. It's a ranking of all books being
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  Speaker 1: sold at Amazon at any given time. When we announced
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  Speaker 1: that Catch a Crayfish Count the Stars was up for
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  Speaker 1: pre orders, I'm holding my hand right now. I'm holding
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  Speaker 1: the facts simile of it in my hand right now.
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  Speaker 1: Fun Project Skills and Adventures for Outdoor Kids. It shot
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  Speaker 1: up to number three. Really yeah, that whiney bastard, uh
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  Speaker 1: the King's kid he was still talk about talk about
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  Speaker 1: chopping down the apple tree. What's he got left? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like? What like if you're
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  Speaker 1: playing like a long media game. What's left? Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: already blew through the Netflix documentary and all the book tours.
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  Speaker 1: He did it all. He's like, it's so bad. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to work. I live in this big palace.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, my mom, like many people's mothers, died
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  Speaker 1: and and then and I and I hate all that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what he What's he gonna do? Now? I
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: know he's like for a while he was like a
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  Speaker 1: mental health expert. I guess, goodness gracious, so he was
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: still beating us. Well, do you think he put all
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  Speaker 1: his money in that Silicon Valley bank so he'll he'll
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  Speaker 1: be just fine. He did so catch crayfish, count the stars.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a here's the deal. It's a if you,
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  Speaker 1: if you're raising outdoor kids, do you want your kids
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  Speaker 1: to feel to have a lot of projects in front
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  Speaker 1: of them that will foster a sense of understanding for
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  Speaker 1: the outdoors, a sense of comfort in the outdoors, knowledge
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  Speaker 1: about the outdoors. It's a great book. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of dangerous. We had to put if you
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  Speaker 1: read it, there's a lot of language like, no, this
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  Speaker 1: is very dangerous. It's very dangerous because there's machetes and
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  Speaker 1: stuff and fires and hatchets and everything in there. So
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  Speaker 1: there's certain things that you got to do, projects that
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  Speaker 1: your kids would need supervision on. There's certain things they
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  Speaker 1: can do on their own. But it's everything arrangement from
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  Speaker 1: like gardening stuff with understanding how gardening works and plants work,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of foraging stuff, fishing stuff. If they're interested
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  Speaker 1: in hunting for their own food, how to get them
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  Speaker 1: up to speed on that, building their own sorts of
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  Speaker 1: weapons like blowguns and frog gigs from natural materials. Basics
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  Speaker 1: on navigation, navigation with the sun, navigation with stars, all
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  Speaker 1: laid out and achievable. Little day projects, even a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of stuff about in the home, So things that you
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  Speaker 1: can do on bad days inside your house when you
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  Speaker 1: can't get outside, that would really educate kids about ecology, biology,
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  Speaker 1: um even even some like basic principles of wildlife population dynamics.
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  Speaker 1: I helped write the piece about how to build a
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: PVC bow. There you go, that's easy, cheap and lots
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  Speaker 1: of hours of fun. My kid killed a cotton tail
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  Speaker 1: rabbit with one of those PVC bows. My nephew did
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  Speaker 1: as well. No UM show, it'll show you how to
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  Speaker 1: do that. It's it's it's a super cool book. I
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  Speaker 1: listen to this. I heard a friend of mine in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 1: His two boys who are probably I don't know, nine
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  Speaker 1: and twelve, nine and thirteen, their project. As soon as
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  Speaker 1: they get that book, they're gonna work on all summers.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna launch their own YouTube channel and make a
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  Speaker 1: video about doing every single activity in your book. Someone's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get sued. I might sue these kids at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great idea. Oh, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw someone sent me an article yesterday. There's a there's
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  Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit a guy's doing against Buffalo Wild Wings.
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  Speaker 1: You hear this, Yeah, there's a class action lawsuit against
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings because their boneless chicken wings aren't wings,
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  Speaker 1: right to which Buffalo Wild Wings says, our buffalo wings
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  Speaker 1: aren't Buffalo. Our hamburgers aren't ham Also, are anybody's bummless
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  Speaker 1: wings wings? I don't think they are. They're all no.
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  Speaker 1: This guy like I was, this guy's like I was
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  Speaker 1: led to believe I was eating a boneless wing and
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  Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, I think I read somewhere He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be disappointing when he finds out chickens don't have fingers either.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. Thank you genuinely didn't know that. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't catch the I didn't guess the finger one
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  Speaker 1: because they had like that buffalo wings or zero percent buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: The hamburgers aren't him. That's some others. There's no sticks
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  Speaker 1: and fish. Good lord, So back to the books. It
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  Speaker 1: shifts in June. If you order now, um, you'll get
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  Speaker 1: it in June. But you can order it now and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully enough for you order it where Harry there gets
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: um does it line up that he would have got
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: his name because of Harry Potter? Or was he born
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: too early for that? M Thank goodness? Order now, Catch Crayfish,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Count the Stars, Fun Project Skills and Adventures for outdoor kids.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Order now and you get it later. And there's a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: landing page. I can't remember what crink you put in
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the show notes. There's a landing page, and go to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and read all about the book. So if you have
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: any kids in your life, nephews kids, grandkids, neighbor kids,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: local kids, seem like they were gonna head for a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: life of trouble in crime. H get on this book
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and get them turned around, and it'll give your kids
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a raw edge to him, you know, tough little make
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: them tough little shits. Cridinal put the landing page thing
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in there, and I don't know if it's still open,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but for a while you could go in and like
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: sign up and get an early copy. So everybody do that. Oh,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: speaking of this kind of like speaking of kids, try
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you got two kids, two boys? Okay. I was talking
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: one day about how I didn't like it that when
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you went to the doctor, a first person comes, yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and they want to weigh or whatever, and then they
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: go what's going on? And you tell them some long story, right,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Like you got two kids. I had it recently too,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, this one had this strap symptom
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and then that went away, but then this one broke
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: out in these little spots all over him, and then
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that one got that again, and then this one did
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that and that led to both of them to have
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this and now that one's fine, but this one's even sicker. Right,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And then the doctor comes in and they go, what's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, right, yeah yeah. And then if if
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it's some kind of specialist thing, like if you're not
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: having ever referral. You'll just have to go to two
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: other people and tell both of them what's going on
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: as well. It's just an endless stream of explaining what's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: going on in various waiting rooms, bigger and smaller waiting areas. Yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: as it gets smaller, you get more hopeful. Yeah, maybe
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they'll be here in a second. Right. So someone wrote
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in about what that's all about. One thing it's all
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: about and I know this to be true because I've
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: seen it before. One thing it's about is you might
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: tell them a thing and they got to go study
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: up on them on Google. Yeah. Right, So if you like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: if you go in and say like, yeah, man, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: got trick and lsis from meeting raw bear meat, they're
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: gonna go be like he's got a what and they're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: gonna go study up on Google. So when they come
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: in and you tell them, they can act like they
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: knew what was going on. Another problem they run and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: do what's this person? Do their physicians assistant? So they
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: wrote in about what's actually happened and when all this
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: goes on. Another thing that's going on is people change
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: their stories all the time. The patience, yep, she said
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the physician's assistant will come in and there's like they're like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what's what's going on. You're like, oh, this happened to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: my kid, and they happened to my kid and now
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: here he is. And then the doctor come in. He'll
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: spin a different yarn, like the parent didn't like how
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it sounded coming out, and so they'll read they'll like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: edit the story. But when I went in, I just said,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: it's really complicated. Can I'll just explain it to the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: main man the main doctor. My case, it was a female,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but I said I'll explain to them, and they're like, okay, cool.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So I had no idea you could do that. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what they're doing is there's it's a thing called locates.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Did you know about this anyone? They're asking you. There's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like a little anacronym of stuff they're asking you location, onset, character, alleviate, aggravate, timing, environment,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: severity comes out to locates. They're after the locates. But
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: as I pointed out as a piece of medical unsolicited
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: medical advice is just say I'll just tell the someone later,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: or you can like making recording and just play recording.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That'd be great. Then they can go as I was
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: saying to your colleague, coming, let me pull it up
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: my voice memo to play. This is what I said.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: This is the problem, right, you listen to as many
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: times as you want. Um. This is you could have
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: even a little googling to the bottom if you want it. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Like I saved you because I know you're gonna be
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: go digging into web MD in a minute. UM. When
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I was a boy, When I was a little boy,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: they would have this thing. Every year. They would take
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a UM. They would take one king salmon and put
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a tag in it and turn it loose Lake Michigan,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And they did have a big fish in Derby. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: if you were to be so lucky as to catch
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the king salmon that had the tag in it, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: win boku money. I've never heard this applied to mammals, however,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: In South Dakota harvest a tag kyote get a free
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: hunt lifetime hunting license. Correction South Carolina, oh well, you
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: saved us a lot of time. On the next episode.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources released sixteen more tagged
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: kyote statewide recently. Is part of the Kyote Harvest Incentive
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Program programs created in two sixteen mm. So they catch
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: some kyotes, they tag them, they release them for per
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: game zone, for game zones for kyotes. Anyone who successfully
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: takes and reports a tag kyote will be rewarded with
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a free lifetime hunting a free lifetime hunting license. They
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: can debt. Here's where's Here's where they sweeten the pot.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Let's say you're getting up in years and if it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: not gonna do you a whole hell of a lot
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: of good. Right, say you're like forty nine, your star's fading,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you can you can give it to your kid, gifted
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: only that special one, right like the one you win,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the one you win, you could give your You can
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: say I would, I will bestow it upon my do
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I'd like to bestow this upon my daughter and make
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: her a free lifetime hunting license. Did you anything? Is
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: it opening on rez? I've read that far yet over
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the last seven years, did you see that in there? No?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I don't. Over the last seven years, one hundred and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: twelve kyles have been tagged and released. Huh so far
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: under half? So in seven years under half, it's not
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: terribly descriptive. I would have just have given the number.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I would have given the number, so somewhere between zero
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and fifty six. Yeah, maybe they're just embarrassed of the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: number somewhere under half, yeah, meaning somewhere between undrea are somewhere,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: So somewhere between zero and fifty six. Yeah, because if
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it said no one's gotten one yet, people aren't gonna
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: get fired up. They're not gonna feel like everyone around
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you is winning. Um. Under half of the tag Kyleot
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: has been reported taken. Kyot's tagged in any year are
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: eligible for the life lifetime license. For information on the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Kyote Harvest Incentive Program, you can go to the DNR
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: South Caroline's DNR page. What I imagine they're trying to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: get around is they're trying to get around the you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: for a long time there was just flat out uh
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: bounty programs. I think they're they're striving for the bounty thing,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: but they're trying to gus see it up, gussied up
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in a more socially acceptable way. And it might be
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like a little unsavory to some folks if they were
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: saying it's like cold heart cash. Is my guess of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: what's happening there a little bit south of there in Florida,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a huge correction on Florida mountain lions. Chester should be
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: here because it's his fault. Yeah, that's true. We're doing
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: an episode and I was throwing research questions to Chester
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: on the fly and he was messing them all up.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: The episode was called Spitting and Strutting. We're discussing mountain
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: lions being relocated from Texas to Florida. Yanni was present.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: The gist of it was, I spent a couple of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: weeks in Florida, and everywhere I went I got a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: year fold from people about cougar recovery and the debate
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: around weather. Many people feel that cougary carvery has gotten
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: too successful. There has been too much leaning into and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: making sack or faces on behalf of the species that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is not regarded to be imperiled anymore. And not only that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and they're having a devastating impact on deer. Not only that,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: but people were saying how it's not even the same
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: cougar that used to be here because they brought in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: super cougars from Texas and I thought it was just
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: seven or eight. Chester got to reading on some crazy website,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the Mountain Lion Foundation website, which is not like Wild
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Turkey Foundation, you know, it's like, uh not Foundation's Rocking
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: mount Elk Foundation, Turkey Federation, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. It's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a it's like a animal rights organization. Anyhow, Chester got
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to spewing off about all kinds of mountain lions brought
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: down from Texas, which is not the case. They brought
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in a total eight and it actually removed some, which
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: really surprised me. Some of the mountain lions that they
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: brought from Texas to Florida. So well, at its lowest number.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: We got it right here. If you want a quick,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: little more informed background on this issue, we covered just
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: quite well. Panthers used to be distributed everywhere, like everywhere
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in the lower forty eight across much of Canada, Central America,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: South America, from Tierra del Fuego to like you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: possibly up into Yukon Territory Mackenzie Delta. Even maybe this
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: animals was the most widely distributed mammal in the New
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: World I think globally, right, most widely distributed animal Western Hemisphere,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: let's go with that. As they got whittled away through
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: poisoning and other predator control things, bowing he's poisoning. You
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: wound up where they were kind of existing in the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: wildest little corners, and the only population that held on
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in the east east of the Mississippi. The only population
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that held on was this little isolated pocket of them
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in southwest Florida. So from nineteen eighty six to nineteen
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers, so this
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is adults, not male, not like all males, not all females.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: The limited the minimum number of adult panthers fluctuated from
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty two. I often use this as
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the greatest piece of evidence against Bigfoot. Go back to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: those years in South Florida when you had twenty to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: thirty mountain lions. They're still getting hit every year on
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the road. So few you have a population of a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: couple dozen, and they're still getting hit every year on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the roads. But Bigfoot can go five hundred years. How
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: many of them exist though, there's gonna be enough to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: make love and reproduce. There's no primate that lives forever. Also,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: maybe Bigfoot knows to look both ways. Well, let mister
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: smarty pants, maybe you know about the guy in Montana
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that put a big Foot suit on and jumped out
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in front of a car to incite a Bigfoot sighting.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: It was just struck and killed. That was struck and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: killed by two cars. That good. Why did he get hit?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It's a dumber than actual bigfoot. From nineteen eighty six
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: fluctuated from twenty four to thirty two. They brought in eight.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: They put some males in. This is interesting. They put
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: some males in. Once they knew that those males had bread,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they pulled a couple of the mails back out. Another
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: correction is this from the This from the the journal.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: This is from Science. Correct the journal Science. There is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: no evidence in breeding is causing physical mail formations and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: negatively affecting recovery. Oh sorry, take all that out, Phil,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I was wrong. Maybe leave it in. I don't know
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you decide forget what I was just saying. Florida panthers, Okay,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Florida planthers were suffering from the effects of inbreeding, including
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: crypto chidism, low sperm quality. That's what I have, kink,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: no quality, kink tales, pelage, cowlicks, opportunistic infections in atrial
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: septal defects. So they brought in to save this couple
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: dozen animals. They brought in animals from Texas, eight not twenty.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Whatever the hell Chester was thrown around, No, I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: he in total it was like close to forty that
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: he added up over years. So now they got two hundred.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Now they got a minimum of two hundred and fifty.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And now it's starting to cause a lot of consternation
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: among people who are feel sportsmen in Florida who are
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: feel that they're having access issues, poorer quality hunting because
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of the great deference to this now recovered, this now
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: recovered species that they feel is somehow not quite the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: same because it was supplemented with genes from outside. Take
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: your pick on that one. Waiting, let's get it. That
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: was okay for it. Apology not an apology correction, No apologies.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Another news bit. I were talking to these I met
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: this dude. So every year I go to, Yeah, every
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: year I go to I'm mceing this year the TRCP
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Capitol Conservation Awards Dinner, in which TRCP they have an
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: annual function in Washington, d C. Where they honor Typically
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they honor someone from the House, someone from the Senate,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and someone from each side of the aisle, so Democrat
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and Republican House Senate, they honor them for conservation achievements,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and then they'll usually honor someone from the private sector.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: M seeing that event. I m sed last year and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: met this dude who was working on his project, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I told him I helped spread the word about his project.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: When Teddy Roosevelt was in DC, he would walk down
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to the Grace Reformed Church in Washington and Washington, d C.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: He laid the cornerstone of the church. Okay, in nineteen
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: oh three. That was the year that Augustus Scofier published
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: his magnum opus lagid q lanaire and I believe it
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was the first year of controlled flight by the Wright brothers.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, just check that out, Yohnnie. That
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: year he delivered an address at the dedication of the church.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: He Teddy Roosevelt kind of the one of the one
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of the fathers of modern conservation and a guy who
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: put in who preserved fifty thousand acres of American land
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: for every day that he was in office in the presidency,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: worshiped there faithfully on Sundays during his vice presidency and presidency.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: If he had to skip a service, he would write
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a letter to the reverend of the church saying he
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: would be absent. Anyhow, the church is up for sale,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: so what's gonna happen? Soone's gonna turn it into condos.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: But these guys have got this thing, say if Teddy's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Church dot com and they're trying to get the jingle necessary,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: they need to raise six million bucks over the next
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: two years so they can buy the building and resuscitate
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it and keep it as it is www dot save
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Save Teddy's Church dot com. So if that speaks to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you an honor of UM one of our great wildlife
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: conservation land conservation heroes, UM, go check that out. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna get into this. We're we're
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: having quite a laugh about golf courses because there's this
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: golf course that needs to like move because the squirrels
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: are so mean. Do you're about this? The squirrels are
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: so mean that it's like driving golfers off trade. Do
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you golf? Uh? Yeah, a little bit? You do? Not good?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah I'm real bad, but yeah I golf a little
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: bit lately. It's mostly so I like I started in
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Jackson County, Tennessee, and everybody there's a golf nine haul
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: golf course there, and like me and my buddies would
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: would golf barefoot and then like cut off t shirts
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and stuff and bring a cooler bear. Yeah, redneck style golf.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: That's the That was my introduction to golf. As I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: got older and moved to cities, and I found out
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that golf is like a fancy people game and they
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of like rules that they really really
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: care about. It kind of took a lot of the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: fun out of it for me. I didn't enjoy it
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: as much anymore. So now I've got to like top
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: golf or something and just you know, drink some bears
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and hit some or whatever. But yeah, I didn't like being,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you know, repeatedly shushed or having to tuck a shirt
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: ban or whatever. That I've always been surprised at no
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: old professional golfer ever emerged who didn't have the same
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: like what informs the fashion sensibility of professional golfers. Like
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with football, you have no choice because you got to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: wear the uniform. But when you see them off field,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it's a wide spectrum of dress styles right wide spectrum. Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: something about something with golf and forces like a very
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: rigid yeah, sense of how one presents themselves of the public.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I guess, like I said, it's just fancy people stuff.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just the culture of golfer.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's also because like the stuff they wear to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: play it, you can also just wear Yeah, you can
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: just the course and you can't do that with shoulder pads.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You know. That's a good point. You look like, yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Uh So someone wrote in with a very spirited defense
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of golf courses as ecological refuges. Great point, you can't.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: It's better than having condos there. So he's pointing out,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what else he's There's this picture.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a famous picture. There's a there's a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ecologist standing next to these cut banks and one is
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: like a crop of one is a annual okay picture
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that you're standing next to a cutaway of a of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a field where you've got a raw cutaway that's eight
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: feet tall, like you just slice the earth, pulled it away,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and you got to look at a help me out.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? A cutaway a soil
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: pit side view. There's a soil pit side view of
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: perennial grass, and there's a side of the root structure
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of perennial grass, and a side view of an annual
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: grass or an annual crop. And holy cow, the like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a long standing grass, a long standing grassland eight feet
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of room. Amazing, it's so amazing to see this. What
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it like the He has a very spirited defense, And
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'll point out, I don't like you know, I get
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: what he's saying. Man, they got ponds. He counted up
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: how many white oaks around their place. It's a really
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: good point. Let's just read the whole damn thing. Should I.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: They're they're gonna move an entire golf course because of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: main squirrels. Rules are too mean. There's some main squirrels,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: well that's small feet or or it's some yeah, yeah, tire.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: They squirrels like a noise in my backswine, chittering in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: my backswine. Can It's like they attack the golfers to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: get their snacks. Right, that's aggressive. Let's read it. For instance,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I work at a small private club near large city
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: with a heavy population of fox squirrels. He points out.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He points out, I'm quoting him, But I'm okay, He
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: points out that, back to the quote, they aren't nearly
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: as aggressive maybe as the ones down in Florida, but
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: we do manage them every winter. Then he goes on
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to say, um, they've managed the squirrels, but their numbers
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: continually bounce back with the copious amount of acorns provided
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: by the three hundred plus mature white oak trees. The
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: property in general has a lot of wildlife for how
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: small a property it is and how it's completely surrounded
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: by urban civilization. We have mink, kyotes, red fox, whitetail, deer, skunks, raccoons,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: all sorts of rafters, including bald eagles, waterfowl, and a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: whole mess of other rodents that are all over the place.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Many golf course has become a part of the Audubon
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Society and our safe havens for many species of birds.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: For that, your pipe smaller, he goes on credit him,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: are not like email friends. Yeah, here's why I'm very
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: delicate about I can't get you know, the secret of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: why I do really need to tiptoe around the golf
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: ish You don't you? I don't think so, Spencer. Well,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it's I'll tell you later. Okay, really, Oh yeah, you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think do I know? Oh? You know?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin just the last I we're gonna talk about. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: told you we had two and you can cut as
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I do. No, no no know. Wisconsin is circulating a build
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to designate an official state rifle, the Henry Arms all
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Weather forty five seventy lever action. They point out in
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the build that this does not mean you have to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: buy one, though it is strongly encouraged. Yeah, you will
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: not get in trouble for not buying one until they are.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I just love to we gotta have Dug. I want
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: to hear what Bubbly Doug thinks about his state. If like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: in my view, I get it because they MANU it's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: great because they manufacture him there, um, big Boy all
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Weather rifle. Um, it's so it's a hometown manufacturer in Wisconsin.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It's a great rifle. But if you said to me, like,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the state rifle of Wisconsin? Well, who
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: used to make that? That that slide action thirty OT six,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be something like that, like an old
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: like yeah, like seven forty two would master? Yeah, like
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: one of those like hardcore. You know old deer guns
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: everybody had, you know, like a like a something in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: thirty OT six. Right, That's what I was gonna say.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that hunted or killed a deer
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: with the Henry old Weather forty five seventy. But it's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: made the Rice Lake based Henry repeating arms. So they
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: make and it's a nod toward the you know, hometown
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: gun manufacturers. So if you live in Wisconsin and you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: don't have one, you can expect visit from law enforcement officials.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Traded you like, learn about all these different old guns
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: in your riflery class or shoot them now. Now it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: was mostly just like just target practice. Yeah, pretty much
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: just was like a twenty two. We didn't like history
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of rifle or anything, although that would have been cool.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I'm horrifically uh underinformed. They join they're joining nine other
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: states who have state rifles. Oh man, that's a whole
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: other thing. Okay, we'll talk about the Kansas Trail campan later.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I've told you didn't want to have more step and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about Burning Man um an hour later. How
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: do you do you go to Burning Man? Now? But
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: one of my best friends just did this past year.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It might it sound pretty wild. It gives us license
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to get into this. I want to. I'm interested in
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: how you're ranking the remaining topics as to the ones
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: that will that you're interested in talking because I got
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a lot to say about Wisconsin's public or Kansas's public
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: land trail camp. I don't have a lot to say
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: about and trash. Basically, when you go to Burning Man,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: it's a is he defending Burnie Man. I don't think
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of how clean they make it exactly. Okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: he's explained just how clean it is after Burning Man.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He was a volunteer there for the Volunteer Fire depart
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: He volunteer at the fire department during the Burning Man thing.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: They cleaned it so good. The festival has the undergoing
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: extensive cleaning procedure where they cleaned the entire seven square
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: miles of m oops moop matter, matter out of place,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: which he said ranges from straw glow sticks to nipple pasties.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: All right, what's a nipple paste picture that you had
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a little sticker you put over your nipple. That's it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Whole decoration you got it? Yeah, clothing like it's like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: not the same as being fully. You don't want to go,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you don't want to have any clothes on you exactly.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: It's like one step there's body paint, right, but that
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a hard Yeah, that's a time investment.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: It doesn't leave a lot to the imagination. Then they
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: do this. This is this is where this gets interesting. Here,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: this is what the BLM make. Here's what the BLM
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: does to determine just how clean the site is. This
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is where this is. This is where this gets downright
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: scientific Bureau Land Management. They randomly select one hundred and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: twenty inspection sites, with each site being a circle with
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a radius of thirty seven point seven feet. Got it,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I'm tracking one hundred and twenty times. You take a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: circle about thirty eight feet radius, lay it down, and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: then you have to inspect that circle. But now it
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: sounded so scientific until I got to this part. We're
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: less than a palmful. Then it devolve, It devolves out
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: of science, It devolves out of science land and goes
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and do less than a palm for less nipple pasties
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: can be fined within that circle. If you find more
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: than a palmful, Yeah, you clean. If you've ever hunted
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: or hiked, backpack camped in this location outside of burning
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: man right in and tell us how clean it was.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know. Yeah, no, when I when I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: first so, I'm from Tennessee and I went to Bonarou
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, you know, big music festival.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I went to like five of those in a row.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And when I first have I found out about burning
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: my end. I was like, okay, so, like what kind
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: of bands are there or whatever? And I was like, oh,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: well they're not there's no lineup or whatever. And from
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, I was like, so
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: what is the point of it then? And it's like
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: an art festival, Like people go there and make like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: art installations, do a bunch of drugs and get wild
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and then burn a fffig at the end
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: of it, and that's pretty much the whole thing. But
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like those festivals are a marathon. You're filthy, you're tired,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like gross. And if I'm not gonna
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: be able to watch like Jay Z and Bruce Springstein,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and back to back nights, then like I
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: got no interest in that, and I wouldn't even do
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the former and in my thirties, you know what I mean. Like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: but in my twenties I was all for it, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I never really got Burning Man and I still don't.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And now it's a bunch of like tech bros and stuff.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I think on top of that, oh is it? I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: think so they've like overtaken It's what I heard. So
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: now everybody goes to Burning Man talks about how it's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: not the same as it was absolutely, just like with
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: everything Nuther's Montana or Baha, yeah, bonarys same way. Um,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: where'd you grow up exactly? Clay County, Tennessee. It's uh,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee is divided into East, Middle, and West Tennessee.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: It's on the northeast part, like northeast border of Middle Tennessee.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like halfway between Nashville and Knoxville and forty
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: miles up on the Kentucky line. What were the what
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: were the conditions like when you grew up there? When
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I was like a little kid, like up until I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: was like nine, it was a pretty idyllic and cozy
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: little southern town. I felt like, like a nice little
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: town and like just using my so there was this
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: big textile factory. Oshkosh, bagosh, my overalls, kiss and stuff
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: ocos bagosh. They had a huge factory in Salina, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that was like the beating heart of the town's e
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: common everybody's My great grandma worked there for sixty years
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, that all the kids. Like, if you
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: were a kid from Sliea at that time, I pretty
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: much guarantee you had like a photo shoot, like a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: toddler photo shoot that was all oshkosh bagosh, right, like
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you know, sitting in a little wooden bucket with some
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: overalls on in a little yeah, right exactly. Why don't
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you guys do the side buttons up? Uh, leaping, flopping?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: It depends, you know, a little bit of both, switch
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it up, and people would do both, yeah exactly. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and then in my family in particular, like was a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: bunch of small business owners. Grandpa had a car lot
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: in a garage, right, we worked on cars and sold
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: them and stuff. And my dad had the town's video store,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Crowder's Video Remember those. Yeah, really dug deep for that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: name because you have the little back corner with a curtain.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it wasn't the curtain, it was a room.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: He was a converted single wide trailer in the back
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: room I was forbade to enter, and that's where you know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: all the boxes were a little bit bigger in size,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, like you know, somebody from the Baptist church,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, couldn't go in there if there was anybody
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: else in the store. Like that was the thing that
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: would happen a lot, like people that that back room
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: kept the lights on in that grocery. And then that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: video store you get a double wide. There was a
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: video store. Yeah, yeah, and uh Crowder's Video, Crowder's Video,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and that market just dried up. Yeah, as you'll see
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: in a minute. As you'll see in a minute, every
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: by town we didn't even get to that point. But anyway, Uh,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: on the town square, my maternal grandmother had a little
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: country diner called Cat's Cafe, And across the square, my
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: openly gay uncle and his partner had a Delhi called
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the New Day Delhi, a sandwich place or whatever. And Uh,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: all these businesses are doing, and the whole town or
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the whole downtown's populated by these little businesses and stuff,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and everything's cool. Then in the mid nineties, as I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like to put it, the factory left forever and the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: pills showed up for good at the same time, the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: factory being oshkosh, they left. They went to Mexico, like
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: literally that that, you know, they moved to that operation
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: to Mexico, just packed it up and moved it. Yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and that was that, Like some of the was that
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: some of the NAFTA. Absolutely, And that's got a huge
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: it's a huge part of people. There's politics, you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: actually that town is rural and every and like redneck
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever it was. You can look it up. For
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: a very long time, that county was like a blue
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: county in Tennessee because it was like old school didn't
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: work in Man Democrats or whatever that type of thing.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But then NAFTA, the Clinton's factory leaves, town gets demolished
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and it changes a lot, but nothing ever came into
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a place that factory. Really. You know, by the time
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I graduated high school, all my family's businesses are closed.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You know, my mom is as addicted to pills herself.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: You know, people are sick. Everything just falls apart, and like,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: feel I want to back up to that that place leaving,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Like how was that perceived by people? Did it feel
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: like a betrayal? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean I remember.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, I was like nine or ten,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: but I can remember my parents, my grandparents like talking
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: about it and stuff. I mean I can. I have
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a vivid memory of my grandpa that owned the car
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: lot coming into my dad's video store and slamming like
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a newspaper or something down on the counter and saying,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'll never vote for another Democrat
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: as long as I live because of that. And like, yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I mean it was like a company town, you know
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I said, everybody worked there and
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: or like had somebody in their family that worked there.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And like all the other businesses, like you know, people
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that work they are bought lunch at these restaurants or
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: whatever that type of thing. It all, it all orbited
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: around that plant. And yeah, I mean people knew. I
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: mean even as a kid, like I knew, like everybody
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: knew this is really bad what's about to happen. And
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: there was some optimism like well we can replace it
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: with something or whatever. But I mean that you know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that's twenty five years ago, going on thirty years ago,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and that you know, there's like a couple minor operations
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: have come in and left and whatever else, but nothing
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: has really ever replaced it. So it's been there's been
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: like double digit level. I mean, I don't know right now,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: but I know for over a decade there was double
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: digit levels of unemployment. It was like, you know, one
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: of the poorest counties in Tennessee for like years and
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: years straight because of them that killed the video store.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So I said, like, right, obviously the video
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: store wouldn't have made it a long term anyway, but
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: we didn't know that. You know, we didn't see the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: future coming. But it didn't matter because that killed the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: video store. My uncle's Delhi, the my grandma's cafe is
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like that's still a restaurant on the square, but like
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it got rough and she was old and so that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: drove her out of it, and so you know, pretty
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: much just ended everything. Yeah, it was pretty rough. So
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I understand why those people like in that place. I
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: get why, you know, they don't trust politicians, Democrats in particular,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. And I also get why
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that county went so heavily for Trump in twenty sixteens,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: because you know, he was telling them, he was speaking
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: directly to that type of stuff and nobody else does
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: because nobody cares about those people. And like Republicans Democrats both,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: no one cares about those people poor like rural people
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like they just don't. I mean I do because that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: where I'm from, but like you know, and so to
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: have anybody even paying them any attention at all, I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: think was like attractive, you know, ye in a desperation way.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason I think we're talking about this earlier,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: when we're talking about getting you on Yani, you found
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: your stuff and turned me onto it, and uh we
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: had we had a laugh watching it. And what initiated
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that was. It's not I'm not the first person to
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: make this observation by any stretch, but it was like
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, uh, the last thing that will be
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: left that the whole country agrees. It's totally fine to
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: ridicule and insult, Yeah, is poor white Southerners. I think
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you can always be No one will ever be like, well,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: don't you do that. I was making like jokes about
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that in stand up when I started thirteen years ago,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and it's still because even then, uh, it was already starting,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: and I would I mean, I mean, who else is
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: there right now? Do you know what I mean? Like
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: you said, like you said, oh, we'll get to that
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: point eventually, but I mean, who else is? Yeah? Right?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Pretty right? Like you can't name another group of people
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that it's okay to make fun of. No, But also,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: like I'm as a comedian, I'm kind of totally okay
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: with that. As long as people will allow me, as
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: a you know, formally poor white Southerner to also make
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: fun of other types of white people, then I'm good
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: with that trade off. Do you know what I mean?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Any kind of any kind of white person should be
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: fair game, I think for me, because you know we're
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: gonna catch it too. I used to like, and I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: don't know what the real answer is, but I used
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to jokingly say that I thought that was because all
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: these other groups of people, gradually over the years each
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: stood up and we're like, that's not okay, you shouldn't
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: talk about us like that, right. But Rednecks were never
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: gonna do that because that would imply that they, you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: give a damn what somebody else thinks. It would put
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Marry the Cable Guy and Jeff Fox were the out
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: of business. It's just like you know, like the world
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: tells them's like, hey, they're talking shit about you. Who
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is everybody? I'll tell everybody to kiss my ass and
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: then that's the end of it, you know. Like, but
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I find it the southerns have a huge ship on
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: their shoulder about pretty much the whole rest of the country,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: like looking down on him earlier. Think y'all were talking
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: earlier off mix about somebody else you work with, who Clay. Yeah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: there's like the South and then there's like devil Country Clay.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I've been dogging on our colleague Clay a lot because
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: he was recently he was pitching this idea that he
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to do, and he had an email where he
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: pointed out that he pointed out that in Southern culture,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you know, music is very important. Yeah, And I said,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: have you been to a lot of areas in America
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: where you found music to be unimportant? Right? Have you
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: found it to be unimportant in the North? And then
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I sent Then I started looking up musicians per capita,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and um I pointed out to him that the most
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: musicians per capita and Beverly Hills, Right, So I think
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: it'd be fair to say that in global culture, music
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: is very important. Well, yeah, and yeah he sees he
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: sees like he'd be like, I mean, I'm storytelling is
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: very important in the South. Well, look, I mean a
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: lot of Listen, Clay's not even here, but I'm about
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to go to bat for him. I think a lot
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: of them. I think a lot of the like of
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: American music, like you know, has its roots originally in
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the South, and a lot of That's my buddy pointed
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: out when I was dogging on Clay about this. He
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: pointed out that like if you sort of do a
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: music family tree, right, you wind up like like Southern
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: blues winds up being like the trunk of the tree,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: is what he's getting. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe Clean knows at We'll have
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: to get mine talked to him about this. But now
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: they are, Yeah, they're musical paper like the most rednecked
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: part of my county it's called pe Ridge, right, And
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: it's also the part where like what they're known for
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: is like they all can just sing like angels, like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, everybody out there something in the water
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: just yeah, like it's like, oh they're red as hell,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: but got pipes. Did you guys mess around outside a
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: lot with your kids. Yeah, I'm kind of doing a
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: bit about that right now. Like I I've got I've
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: got two sons or ten eleven, And I think about
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: when I was at age, like I would me and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: my little sisters three years younger than me, Like we'd
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: leave in the morning and just you know, be gone.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I mean literally all day, you know what I mean,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and like obviously no cell phones, I'll checking in or something,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: just out like you know, playing in the creek, trying
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to catch crawl daddies or whatever, you know, climbing into
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: old storm drains, just kids stuff, you know, but like
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: climbing up the pile the piles of scrap material behind
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the abandoned factory, you know, fun stuff like that. But
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: uh but yeah, I men't. But today I'm you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not like I went, and I live in California,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: live in Burbank, California, you know, which is very suburban,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: but it's still a city. But I'm just not, like,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm mortified at the prospect of that. Like
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: unless I had some way to like track them or whatever,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want them out there just running around all day.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: But that's what we did. Yeah, we would, I mean yeah,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: all day long in the summertime and stuff would be
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: just playing outside. And then uh, when I got older,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: like in high school and everything. I was never a
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: big hunter but me and my buddy. The only thing
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: of note in Clay County, Tennessee is a man made
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: lake called Dale Hollow Lake, which for a long time
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: not anymore. Unfortunately that that also left with the factory.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: We were the we were the home of the world
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: record smallmouth bass. They did the world even took the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: bass away from us. Yeah, the bass record world record. Yeah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: that was on the sign coming welcome to Slige at
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: home of the world record smallmouth bass. But like part
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: of the local lore was always, and I don't know
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the truth of it, but part of the local lore
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: was always there's always these rumors and stuff that the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: dude that it that it had been weighted down with
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: like nuts and bolts and stuff, and that yeah, that
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: would never happened. Yeah, And so it was always like
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: a yeah, it's like the town was divided amongst you know,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: whether it was legit or not. But anyway, so like
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: summertime at the every day exactly, Yeah, stolen bass violer,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: but like, uh, now, I don't know off the top
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: of my head. Hey, everyone fill here with a quick note.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Immediately after the show, Trade had some research and found
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: out that Selena and Dale hollow Lake still hold the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: record for the smallmouth bass. According to him, he quote
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: assumed the universe had taken that from us as well.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: My bad, Thanks Trey, and back to the show. Can
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I tell you a quick story? Yeah? Please? It has
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to do with the South kind of um. There's a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: song by Hank Williams Junior and Whale and Jennings called
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: The Conversation, and in it they discuss Hank Williams Junior's mother, Aubrey,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: and first off trying to get Hanklingas Junior to come
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. So if you're out there listening, my man,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: please uh. Anyways, like Hank Williams and Hank Williams Junior's mom,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Aubrey got a divorce or not, and then he got
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: remarried right before he died. This all happened really fast.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: He died young and unexpectedly. Once he died. Once he died,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: there became a legal battle over who was able to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: call themselves Hank Williams's widow because he hadn't done the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: legal separation prior to getting remarried, and then he died
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: or after he get remarried. So in the end it
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: was settled that Aubrey, Hank Williams Junior's mother became officially
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Hank William's widow, and in a settlement, this other woman
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: had to stop saying that, and Okay, Aubrey was the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: first one or their Sorry, his first wife was Aubrey
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: who he had been separated from but didn't get supposed
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: to do like sixty days. I mean, I think he's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be separated sixty days before he'd be legally divorced. Well,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: it turns out he had only done fifty days of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: separation or something like that and then got married. Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Then he dies and so they're like, you're that marriage.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: That's not actually his widow because he didn't legally get divorced. Yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: so I get to be the widow. I'm pretty sure
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that my mama is still technically married to my step
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: dad despite the fact that they haven't been together in
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: twenty something years. They haven't done it. They just didn't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: do it. They never did it, never got around to that.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: You know, what's a whole thing you still keep you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: still keep in touch with your parents. Well, my dad
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: passed away ten years ago pancreatic cancer. But he was
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier my mom getting you know, addicted to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: drugs and stuff when I was younger. So my dad
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: most mostly raised us. And my dad was great, super
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: close to my dad, but he was not really an outdoorsman.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: He was more into like rock and roll and movies,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Dave and Lynch movies and stuff like that, you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: but I do still his video store would be in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: a David Lynch movie, right. Yeah, he would have been
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: so flattered to hear you say that. They're so thrilled
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: to hear that someone interpreted it that way. He would
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: love that. But but yeah, but my mom, you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: she's still kicking and we're like, you know, we're reconciled
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Now I wouldn't say we're super close, but
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: we you know, I do keep in touch. I say,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: here at the holidays and stuff like that. Do you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: understand what you do mean? Like it? She does. She
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: loves it. She loves like the attention and stuff like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and actually she I gotta give her credit, like she
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: is cool about all that. Like I had one of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: my early jokes that I had was like talking about
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: where I'm from and how redneck it is or whatever,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: and I, you know, and I'd be like, yeah, you know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I love football and I hate shirt sleeves and whatever. Yeah,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I don't all this ship. And at the end, I'd
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: be like, and my mama, y'all, my mama cooks the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: best crystal meth you ever had in your life, right,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: And like, uh, she heard me do that, and she
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: sent me a text message. It was like, she's like, honey,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I did not cook math right space, I sold pills.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: It's different, it's not the same thing. I was like,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I know, Mama, but I can't you you know, it
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't work with cooked Joe, Like you gotta talk about
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: your home cooking. I can't use pills, you know, taking
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: some artistic license. Give me a break. But she's she's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: pretty cool about it all. So what was it that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: when you when you left, was it like in the movies,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you know, like you um, you know, left with your
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: thumb out and got on a hitch hiked out of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: town and never turned back. Not quite, but kind of.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: And also the other thing was I was always like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the smart kid in my class, which is like, you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: bars not all that high. It's like's not crazy impressive
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: being the smart kid in this particular school. But I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: didn't know that I had no for of reference. So
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: like by the time I graduated high school or whatever,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: like I literally thought I was like redneck Goodwill Hunting,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like literally because you know, he had a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: rough childhood. He's a super genius and the end of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that movie's him just hitting the road never to return, right.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I was like I thought to do with it? Yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I thought I was Matt Damon in that movie. And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of my twenties was having to reconciled with
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the fact that I am not, you know, that brilliant
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the way that I thought I was, you know, but
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was kind of like that. And my
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: dad also it was very much like that's part of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: like an another thing I've always regretted. I mentioned my
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: grandpa had a car lot he before I was born,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: like before my time. He built and raced stock cars
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: on like the dirt track circuit in the South. He
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: had his whole basement was full of trophies and pictures
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: all his like stock car pass and stuff, and he
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: was like a gear head, you know, Like my dad
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: was real into music. But I never I noticed my
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: grandpa never listened to music. And I was sitting with
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: one and this like seventy nine Chevy pickup he had,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: right and We're sitting there and I'm probably twelve, and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Pap, why don't why don't you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: ever listen to any music? And he just looks at
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: me and just revs the engine up real alb bro
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and he goes, that's the only music of man needs
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: son and uh so like but anyway, but he had
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the His outlook on me was like, you're gonna go
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: to college. You know, You're like you're the you're gonna
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the first one of the family go to You're gonna
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: go to college and get You're gonna you're gonna be
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: a doctor or a lawyer. You're gonna work at some
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: kind of office. You're not gonna be covered in grease
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: every day. Like you're not gonna you know what I mean.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Like he wanted that kind of future for me, but
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I wish I'd to take him more of an initiative
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, learn that kind of thing from him,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: but he never offered and I never asked learned how
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: to wrench on cars all that stuff. Yeah, and I mean,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll like, um, like I'll do little stuff
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: like the tires or breakpads whatever I put alternators, and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: it's always just like YouTube and a manual. You know,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: you can't figure it out. It's not that bad. But
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: like he just knew. He was just one of those
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: guys you know, knew everything about engines and stuff. It
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: probably would have changed, I guess, because you know, as cars,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: like modern day cars with the computers and all that
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: stuff in him, that probably would have confounded him a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: little bit. But like the old school rides, who you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: know topped to bottom. I can't remember why even brought
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that up. I don't know. We're talking about your family
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and growing up. I know where he's coming from, man,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: because um, thinking back to when you could climb in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I remember like working on working on pickups when you're
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: in high school, you would open the hood and sit
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: on the front wheel. Well you'd be like sitting side
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: there right, yeah, and everything's just laid out like, well,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: there's the starter, there's this, there's that. You know, it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: just so simple and now, dude, it's like intimidating man
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: wrenched on any kind of thing. Dude, when you left,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you went to college obviously. Oh right, yeah, well so
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that's the thing again. Act like I'm good Will hunting
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: and he was going across the country. I went forty
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: miles up the road to Cookville, Tennessee, which is also
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: a small town, but to me, it was like the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: major metropolitan area of Cookville, Tennessee, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Like Cookville was the town where if you're from Salina,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: that's where you go to get like school closed, if
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you're going to go to the movies, or if it's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: somebody's birthday, so you go to Red Lobster for a
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: fancy dinner, you know. Like that's what Cookville was. And
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I also have a cow college there, Tennessee Tech University,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: which is where I ended up going. And I mean
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I loved it at a great time. But yeah, I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: didn't go all that far away. But I already knew
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to do comedy, did yeah, Because well,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, so, I grew up in my dad's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: video store, so like I always wanted to do something
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: in show business like movies or whatever. And then when
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I was twelve, and I told this story a lot,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: but it's how I remember it. When I was twelve,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: me and my dad together watched Chris Rock, Bigger and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Blacker when it aired on HBO, like we watched it live,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: and that's the Chris Rock special where he does this
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: whole bit about dads how nobody appreciates dads. It's always mama,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: this MoMA that daddy don't get no credit. All daddy
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: gets is the big piece of chicken, right that bit.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: And my dad's just like losing his mind watching is
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: and he's just dying. And that was the first time
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that I was like that in particular. Seems like it
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: would be cool, right, but again, I'm a kid. I'm
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere whatever. I started keeping notes
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: like for possible, like stand up bits and stuff like that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: And I wanted to go to college. I wanted to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: get a Greek because I would have been the first
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: of my family to do it. I wanted to do
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: that either way. But I then knew I was going
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: to start comedy wherever I ended up after college. So
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: because I knew that in college, I got an MBA,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: not because I have any interest in business, but just
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: because I thought it would give me the best shot
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: at getting some kind of job where I could like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: pay the bills and not have to do any that
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: starving artist bullshit, Like I had no interest in that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: type of thing, you know what I mean. I'd been
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: pouring weighted tables enough, like get a good job while
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I was moonlighting as a comic, and so that's why
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I got it. And then that's exactly what happened. I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: got a job working for the US Department of Energy
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: in Oakridge, Tennessee. Moved there, started stand up in Knoxville
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: doing what for the Department of Energy. I was a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: contracting officer, so like uh, contract specialist eventually and then
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: a contracting officer. So like the federal government doesn't they
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: don't really do much of anything themselves. Anything they do
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: they contract out to like private, private industry. Statement. Well no,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I mean they just you know, they they have contractors
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: for everything, you know, like a federal employee. It's rare
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: that they'll you know, do any of the like you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: brunt of the work or whatever. There's a contractor or
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: a subcontractor or whatever. Well, so I I had like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a warrant they call it, and I was like I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: awarded and administered those contracts on behalf of the government, right, So,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: like I worked with the contractors and you know, made
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: sure they were following the rules, made sure they were
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do, you know, and then
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: they got paid and all that type of stuff. Competition
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: was a big part of doing a request for proposals,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and companies submit proposals and you have to put a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: board together and pick the company you're gonna Some of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: these contracts are you know huge, Ye, I'd make a
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: lot of money on kickbacks. No, I never got to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: that point. It would have been pretty sweet though, because yeah,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: you know that was going on. We'd have ethics classes
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff where they'd tell us, you know, stories of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: people who have been caught, you know, like don't do that.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure people were still doing it. But I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: mean there was other little stuff like somebody's son in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: law company would get a maintenance contract, you know what
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I mean. There was still some like good old boy
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: type stuff that would go on there. But like, but
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the big dollar contracts, they were like heavily scrutinized, and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: had to be you know, competed in all that stuff.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: So but it was just a I had a top
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: secret security clearance and all that. But like one of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: my contracts was the uranium processing facility, so like the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon were they enrich the uranium you know that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: goes in our nuclear weapons? Uh? And so I I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: would go to all these meetings that were like top
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: secret and heavily like heavy security phones outside all this stuff,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: like very very high level of security. But it's my
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: ran trying to listen to the water. But like I could,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: like you could have waterboarded me all damn day and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't been able to tell you any of it
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: because it because like it just feel like no, I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: really like I really don't know because it's all like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: it's all science and shit. You know, it's like it
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: it goes over your head. So if you're like me anyway,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: So I was in those meetings and stuff, but I,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't understand them. They were highly technical
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: in nature, and sometimes people would think that it's a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like it sounds like a kind of cool job,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: but it was just an office job really, you know,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: it's kind of office spacey in a lot of ways.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: When you knew that you wanted to do comedy when
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you were young, did you how did you perceive what
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: it was you were growing up around I d're saying,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I'm getting at I mean maybe, do you mean like
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: meaning that until you I didn't fully understand where I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: grew up until I went somewhere else. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know about UM until I was in
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: graduate school. I didn't know I'd never met Ivy League kids,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: yeah right, I didn't know about any coffee besides gas
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: station coffee. Yeah yeah, right, like all that shit, and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: then you go like, oh, oh, I know, yeah that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: was weird. I got a few growing up I've had.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I've had stand up bits based on that premise too,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: because I went through a very similar thing. I knew.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I mentioned Dalhalla Lake in the summertime, tourists from like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Big Ten country, like Ohio and Michigan, you know, your
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: neck of the woods that I just called it that
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: it's just like a reference point. I don't know, so yeah, right,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: they have really good sports teams at the college, but uh,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: people from up there, like the Midwest, the north northern
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Midwest that would like to us that was just the North,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: like you know Yankees. Yankees would come down Animal's Country. Yeah,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Devil's Country, right, but of course, you know that's the thing.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Devil's Country is just you got the South and then
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: there's Devil's Country because California is like the devilist of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Devil's Country and it's not in the North. But they're
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: like honorary Yankees in California. But anyway, uh, anyway, they
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: would come down there and like go out on a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: houseboats stuff. They'd come to the lake in the summertime
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and it's like a huge reservoir. Oh yeah, it's a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: it's a big lake. It's also I was always told
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: that it was one of the cleanest lakes in the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: country and all this stuff, and it's uh, I mean,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I think Delhalla Lake is awesome, like unimpeachable, uh to me. Yeah,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And uh so people come out there going on a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: houseboats and stuff like that. Um so because of that,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: we were I think it's like in any place where
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: they're a tourist, the locals were very aware. Like we
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: all thought that the tourists, you know, thought we were
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: all idiots, right, like the local yokels. You know what
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I mean like they like we were the like we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: thought they thought they were better than everybody else or
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: whatever else. And what's funny is in retrospect, these are
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: like very middle class Midwestern people. These are like, you know,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: this guy's like probably an electrician or something, an electrician
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: from Iowa, and we're like, look at this fancy playing
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a sum a bit. They couldn't afford the driving exactly, yeah,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: but we didn't know. You feel like you're like you're
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: like townies at Martha's Vineyard or something, right, yeah exactly,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: but like, uh, there's just a And also it's just
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: a universal thing in the South. I don't whether you're
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: in a like toown or not. Like you're just aware
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that everybody else thinks you're dumb, Like that's the thing
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: you think, like the accent makes you dumb and all
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: this stuff. And again I was a smart kid in
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: my class. I thought I was like smart on a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: global scale. So like I took that very personally, like
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: they used to really piss me off, right, I was like,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: you know, no that you know, I'm I'm as smart
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: as anything. Sons of bitches, you know that don't matter
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: how I talk, you know, how do you become aware
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of it though, like at the age of twelve, Like,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: what has taught you that the rest of the world
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: thinks that you're not as smart as they are? Like
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: are your parents just telling you this? Yeah, people just
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: talk about it and again but again especially that's why
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I brought up the tourists, just because that just that
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: was just a general like consensus or the way it was.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean is that like the tourists
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: or up at the assholes. You know, I think we're
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: all dumb. And it's like you just know that from
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: a very early age, right, but um, but anyway, so
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I was aware of that, right, But there was a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff. So I knew the South was
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: like that. I didn't know that my town was different
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: from other places in the South, like other cities or
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: other places that are not economically devastated or whatnot. Like
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't you were the bottom, Yes, And I didn't
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: know that. And so like I get and I used
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: to this bit like when I was in college or again,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I started dating this girl who I considered to be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a rich girl, but literally her dad owned an auto
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: body shop outside of Nashville. Right, But like I was
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom getting ready for a first date, like
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: here's you want chance, fancy? Don't let me damn, you know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: like I thought, this is my ticket, you know. And
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: uh like when I went to her house for for
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Christmas or whatever, you know, I'm in the kitchen like,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: why's all y'all's plates the same? You know, that's weird,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: you know, had glass tupperware. I was like, as I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: live and breathe, you know, like, uh, blew my mind.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, and I had a few moments like that.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm white trash, you know.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: But because I didn't know that until later. I remember
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: being with a bunch of college friends. They're all kind
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: of you know, middle class would again rich to me.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: We're riding around going to somebody's house to pick them up,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: and they're from Cookeville, and it's like a nice neighborhood
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: with like you know, like big suburban homes, nothing crazy,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: not like full on McMansions, but like, you know, nice
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: houses in like a subdivision, right, well kept yards, yeah right.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: And we're going through there and I'm telling my friends,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this is insane. I was like everyone
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, there's not a house this nice and
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: all of Clay County and this neighborhood's full of them
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And one of the dudes was like, are
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you serious about that? And I was like yeah, man,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, there might be one or two up
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: on the lake, but that's it. And he was like, dude,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: that's poverty. And I was like, oh, shitty's right, that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: is poverty, you know. So yeah, I had a lot
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: of those, a lot of those realizations we had, Like
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: it's so funny, it's without the whole Southern North thing.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: There's like a strikingly similar thing that happened where I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: grew up, where there's some people that around our lake.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: We had like the Chicago people. There's a couple of
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: places where they bought cottages around the lake I grew
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: up on, and they'd come from four hours away from Chicago,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: and they were into the same stuff, right, They're into whatever,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: playing in the water. They're inefficient, but their ship was
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: so much nicer. Right, But again they were working class people,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: but they had like glass tron boats. They had like
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: dedicated ski boats with stereo systems. Yeah, so when they
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: would stop to like circle around and pick up a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: skier here that they were playing music, which would just
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: blow your mind. How you play music out of a boat, right,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: And so they did the same stuff that just did
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: it was nice. And if they went fishing, they had
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: like a fishing boat, you know, so they were into
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: the same junk. But it's just their stuff was nice.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: And you became aware of that was a sort of
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: first inkling that there's another way to go about ship. Yeah,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: you could be like the Chicago people down the beach
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: everyone disliked. Yeah, even though they liked to do exactly
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: the same stuff, right, it's just they did it with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: nice stuff, and that annoyed everybody. Yeah. Yeah, you know
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: you complaining about you wouldn't complain about it being nice.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: You can play about being loud, right, loud music, yeah,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: loud boats, I mean, yeah, a nice boat. Yeah. My
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: buddy's dad and one friend whose dad was like the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: highway commissioner. So that's like a good job. That's nothing
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: like in my town. Like as far as like the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: kids at school go, like you were, your family was
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: considered to have money, Like if your family had money,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: and so I know that basically meant like your parents
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: were still married and both had a job, right, and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: that like as being as having money by Salina standards. Right.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: So my one buddy is that was a highway commissioner,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: was like a legitimately good job. And so he had
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: a big bass boat, right, But that bass boat was
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: our like you know, tube and boat, ski and boat
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: whatever else. Like it's just it was just the boat
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: used to boat for all the boat stuff, right. It
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: didn't have an assortment of boats or specialized boats like
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: we were just lucky to have just that one boat.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: When you started doing the well, what was the first
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: comedy you did? Like, what was the first sort of
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: audience material? So? Um, Like I said, I how do
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: you say when you start comedy? Don't know when you
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: start writing. I guess he's right. When when you start
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: being a writer, I guess in my mind, you start
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: getting paid for your work. Okay, I didn't start. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: mean you get paid gas money or whatever it bar
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: shows and stuff. Early on the first time that ever happened,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I was probably now, I started him saying, I mean
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: about eighteen months sin to doing it, I'd get paid
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I'd MC at side Splitters in Knoxville,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the comedy club there twenty five dollars a show, if
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: that counts. I didn't go full time until the videos
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier went viral in twenty sixteen, so I've
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: been like full time for seven years. I started in
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: twenty ten at Splitters, and we're your first jokes about
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: poor Southern culture, Yeah, all of them. So you never
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: thought that you had to go make up jokes about
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: stuff that other comedians were talking about. No, And it's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: kind of worked out because I still, like to this day,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: like for people who don't know they're listening or whatever,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: like hear the liberal redneck thing. The stand up that
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I do has always been and it's still like, you know, culture,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: It's not like straight up political, like I might getting
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: us some political stuff, but I also talk a lot
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: about just like how I grew up, or my hometown
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: or you know, the South in general, how other people
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: think of this out. I got tons of jokes that
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: make fun of California ever since I moved there, you know,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: like it's not just politics. But one thing I found is,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: like people in other plays, because I didn't realize either,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, you're like, you know, you removed
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: the North South from it, and similar stuff was happening
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: in my hometown. Like I didn't realize that until later,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: but like that holds true for a lot of people
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: in a lot of places, meaning like a lot of
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: people can relate to that type of thing. Like the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: other day I went to my eye a new eye
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: doctor in Burbank, California. He's like a mid thirties Armenian
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: dude named doctor Hosseeppen, and he as soon as I
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: came in, he was like, I know this is weird,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm a huge fan. He was like, I grew up.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: He was like, I grew up in a poor immigrant household,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: and he was liking so much of what you say.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, right. And another time this dude come up
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: to me after a show and he was like, hey,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: so I grew up my whole life in Cuba and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I never knew it until listening to your set just now,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: but apparently I was a redneck. I guess, he was, like,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: because all that stuff you were saying like totally applied
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: to me too, So like you know, um, it's a
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: more universal experience than a lot of people realize or whatever.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: But that's like the high, that's the high mark of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: art though man rights when you know, you you convey
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: a particular experience and then it, you know, it resonates
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: with people who haven't lived that same one. Yeah, they
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: reflect on their own stuff. It makes them reflect on
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: their own things and feel better about it, or they
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: laugh about it or right, you know. But yeah, I
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: don't remember the exact material, but yes, it was talking
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: about just my very first set was all about like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: and also at the time because I was really nervous
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: and everything, and also I probably had a couple of
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: drinks because I was nervous. So I get on stage
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: and like, so all of those things means like my
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: accident was like way thicker, you know, I'm up there,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: like I'm from clay Knty, Tennessee, you know, like it
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: just just belting out yeah without Maine in two and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: so it probably played because I was talking about how
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: redneck my hometown was. I remember I talked about moonshine,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember any of the jokes. It was
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: talking about, like, you know, something about punching off makes
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: you want to punch a horse, you know, or whatever
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: else like somebody as we know the party's gonna turn
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: up is when some old boy hols the moon shine
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: out or you know, shit like that, pretty like honestly,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: pretty U like blue collar comedy tour e type of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: type of stuff, honestly. And then as I kept going,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I started and now I started talking about more like
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, social commentary. You know,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I'd have bits about like i'd make fun of the Bible,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: or I make fun of the Confederacy, or I get
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: into racism or homophobia or that type of ship, but
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: always mixed with you know, the other stuff, the lifestyle
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: stuff too. And now I'll talk about you know, I
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: talk about my wife a lot, you know what I mean,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: So like trying to cover a lot of the bases.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Last night I was writing some kids materials. Well, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: I just like, like, I don't want people to like,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to just do the one thing, you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm okay with people knowing me
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: primarily from one thing, but like, I want to do
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: more than just the political stuff. Like I men, one
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: of the guys I work with a lot started a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: new podcast this year that's just us two hill billy's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: talking about fancy people shit. Right. It's called putting on
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: errors and it's like not, it's not political at all,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: And I mean we have a lot of fun with it.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny. You know. I try to like
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: find places where fancy and trashy people overlap, like you know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: cousin banging or you know, or like getting drunk on
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: a boat or nading a logger or you know, stuff
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: like that. Different. That's really that's a great little couple there. Yeah,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: it's cousin banging and getting drunk on boats. Yeah, right,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: well more do you want? You know, the boats are different?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, exactly know what you talk about doing
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: a kid humor? Man, it's like can and I just
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: want to spend it back. We gotta go way back
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit because I thought you were going to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: ask the question when you but we didn't never get there.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: The uncles, no, when you when you're like a kid
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I'm gonna do something in show
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: business and even instead you said you were starting to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: write down things and you thought you could make fun
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: of But my question is what in your head? What
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: was going on when you're like, oh, I'm funny enough
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: that I could present or were you like always kind
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: of class clowney, Like what gives somebody something in their
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: head with They're like, oh, I'm funny enough that I
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: can produce jokes. I like a lot of people laugh,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: like a lot of kids from a broken home situation. Whatever.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I was funny, Like I was a smart kid, but
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: I was also if I wasn't like class clowney, but
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I was funny. My friends would tell me, like, you know,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: you should be comedians some day or whatever. Like people
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: would say that. And again, I cannot stress enough the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: inflated opinion I had of my own mental capabilities intellectual
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: and creatively and everything. So like I was like, yeah,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: I totally do that, you know. And I and I'm
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: not just saying this. I really was aware even then.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like Cassie, I'm still gonna
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: have my accent right because I can't help it, but
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be dumb and that'll be wild. I'm
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: ain't facetious. But like I was aware. I was aware
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: even then that it would be like a thing, sure
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: that I would have a thing without even trying to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: have a thing, just by virtue of who I am
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: as a person, you know, Like I thought about that
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: even then, um so, but don't get me wrong, I
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: was still very nervous. Like so, by the time I
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: get out of grad school and moved to Knoxville, I'm
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: twenty three, and it was like I was very much like,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna do it, do it like
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: it's either now or never. You've been keeping your little
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: notes and saying all this shit for years, but either
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: do it or don't. And so I signed up for
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: an open mic. I stacked the deck in my favor,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: like a lot of first timers do. I brought a
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: bunch of co workers and stuff with me. Yeah, most
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: people their first time, they end up doing that, you know,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: they bring friends with them, and so it kind of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: pumps up the response you get. And then I just
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: got the bug, and I don't think I missed a
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think I missed an open mic after that
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: for like two and a half years or something. That
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: first night, now, because I had my friends in the crowd, like,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: it went well. I you know, it wasn't long before
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: I bombed, for sure, but by that time it was
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: too late. I was just fully in it, you know, man, dude,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that like learning Spanish.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: UM pretty much that learning Spanish and doing a learning
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Spanish and learning how to do um, and I'll never
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: do it. I'll never do either learning Spanish learning how
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: to do stand up. I think it'd be like really
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: interesting man like saying bad hating to me, like I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: lost my arms and legs and ship. I would probably
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, usually something bad has happened to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't no, no, that wouldn't be my line of humor.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: But I'd be like I would walk away from certain
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: other activities. Well, yeah, I would walk away. Yeah, I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: would move away from certain activities, and I'd be like,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: I gonna learn Spanish and do stand up. I funny,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I have started
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: and then ultimately stopped learning Spanish in my life. So
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: I do absolutely. I've like picked it up so many times.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: I've had you know, both duo lingo and was that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Rosetta stone or whatever? Um, I've yeah, and like I'll
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: start to pick it up and everything, and then I
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: just stopped. For me. I I've always equated learning Spanish
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: like learning to play guitar. For some reason, It's it's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: like something you ought to do. Something something that seems cool.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It's like real easy to not keep up with, do
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it seems cool, you
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: pick it up and then like next thing, you know,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh damn, oh yeah, I don't do it
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: so far away exactly right. Yeah, I've done that so
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: many times that when we go to Mexico, Steve actually
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: thinks I have decent Spanish. Oh yeah, I got. I
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: used to. I got to a point where I could,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: like I could read Spanish pretty like pretty well, you know,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: like I could uh, but I couldn't. I never was
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: able to like uh, and I could speak a little
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: bit of it, but I never could a native Spanish speaker.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Talking was always its way too fast. I could never
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: parse it, you know. But now I got next to nothing.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: It's my second most favorite country, next to America. Mexico.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: In Mexico, yeah, I go there a couple of times
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: a year, and every time I go there, I come
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: home feeling just humiliated. So I haven't picked up much anything.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, living in living in southern California is
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: like that too, you know. I mean It's like I
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: told my said, that was another time I said, as
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: though that they have sole proprietorship over that land. Yeah,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: but that's my like, my, that's where I go to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: feel like a dick for having out learned Spanish. Yeah,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: but that was one of the times when I moved.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: When we first moved to La I was like, this
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: is great, I'll finally pick up Spanish. Right seven years later,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, oh uh my Yamo Trey, Like
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have it at all, you know,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and it's everywhere out there. Um uh. I won't get
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: back into like some of your career stuff, but I
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: wanted to come in. You're talking about trying to write
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: kids stuff. Yeah, well not like not four kids, because
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: that's most comics have kids. They have material about their
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: kids and I never have. But it's like a starting path,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's it's like it's a path
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: you go down. Dude, I'm not a comedian. It's a
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: path you go down. And I think it's like a
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: decision you make. Okay, please a lab break. I'm literally
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: last says I'm gonna start doing jokes about my kids,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: And it's like a path you go down, right, It's
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: a path you go down. Yeah, but you also can't
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: help it. I made it. I just made a bet
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: with my daughter for ten bucks that she bet me
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: that she broke her toe, and then she didn't. I said,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: you didn't break her toe? She said, yeah, I did.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: So she gets the X ray she didn't break her toe,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: and I said, you one me ten bucks. She says, no,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing the beat because I didn't realize I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: hadn't broke my toe right home. That's like, it's the
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: whole point of that, that whole thing. That's why like
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: that that that was the whole conversations about that. So
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: they do stuff that's funny. But then if you if
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: you deal in that trafficing that, you become like a dad.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: You become a dad comedian. Yeah, definitely, you're like my
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: wife boy, the old ball and chain, right, that's the
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: old badle ax. Yeah, that's part of I think that's
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: part of why I've never done it. But I think
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: another reason for me is, like I'm not saying all
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: of them, but I feel like a lot of comics
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: that have kids, when they talk about kids, it's some
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: version of like, you know, oh, they've sapped my life essence,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like they drain your youth,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: they kill your dreams. Right, it's like some versions just
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: I've just never I've just never really felt that way,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: and so like I just I don't know, I didn't
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: see the angle. I'm making a bunch of jokes and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: you know about how much I think it rocks to
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: have kids. Yeah, that's a good thing though, because I've
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: talked to I've talked to some comedians I like about this,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: where I've tried to explain it to them. I don't
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: know if it resonates with them, but I would. I've
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: said that you you approach stand up from a position
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: of strength, because the like sort of the stereotypical stand
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: up thing is like, oh the old battle acts. They're like, oh,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: you know, no one at work takes me seriously, oh
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: my kids whatever, you know, no one, I don't get
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: laid right, But to do comedy from yeah, comedy from
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: a position to strength, it's hard, but it's good. Like
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: comedy from a position of of of of comfort, yeah right, comfort, happiness,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: like feeling good about yourself and then do comedy. Yeah. Well,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: And that's part of the because I do think it
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: makes it somewhat novel because that's usually how to go.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: The stuff I was kind of working on my side
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: or thinking about, is it's all positive about having kids,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like it sort of talks about everybody says all these
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: negative things about it, and then I tell why, you
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: know why I think it's positive, which is hopefully you know,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: makes it different and it's fresh. But yeah, but I do,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do self deprecate, but I also like,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: you know, um, like another part of my opial I
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: think is literally sometimes just like big work, it's like
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: the sounding kind of smart thing like sometimes like crowd
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Connecticut or something, I feel like they're laughing, is like
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: do you hear that? It seems smart but it sounded dumb.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: I love that, like uh, And so that's because I've
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: also taught there's this uh, this media company that I've
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: worked with before, like doing some pilots and stuff. They're
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: like a vice type of outfit, but it's not vice,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: and they're The guy that works here told me once
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: it's the reason He's like, the reason we love you
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: is because your pretension proof, right, He was like you
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: He's like he's like he's like, you're never gonna come
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: across to our audience as preachy or pretentious because your
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Southern because of in the unspoken part is like because
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: of how dumb you sound, right Like it makes you
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: immune to that, Like you could be just as you know, superior,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: acting as you know, just as sanctimonious as anybody, but
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna sound all dumb while you're doing it. Well,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: you know, they done so on other Southerners though they
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: have They have people read the same speech. Yeah right,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: They have people with different accents give the same speech,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: and then people rate how well they knew the subject matter.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: And the Southerners are like, damn, guy eated he's talking
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: about that. I did not know that was an actual study. Uh.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I've got a bit about that, or that exact thing
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: about how if you say the same thing to people
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: in different accents, it'll impact them in different ways. The
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: British person is gonna be more impressive, exactly right in
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: in a Southern mail, it's gonna be less. It's gonna
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be The material he gives is gonna sound
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: less legit. Can you give us an example? Uh So?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: The example I'm using right now is like, even if
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: you pick a famous quote that sounds smart on its
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: own like like John Lennon's life is what happens when
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: you're busy making other plans. Right, like you said somebody
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: in a French accent. You know, life is what that beens.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: We you're busy making us plans, people are like, you're
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: so right, so we should have sex right now, right,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Like I just want to have sex all of a sudden,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know why. You know Australian accent. Oh
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: might watch what happens you're busy making other plans. People
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: are like, he oh, yeah, well that's a party. This
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: guy likes the party. I could just tell But if
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: you say it in my accent, that's what happens when
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: you're busy making other plans. People are like, oh no,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna tell us his plans. He I don't
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: want to hear this guy's plans probably involved truck nuts
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: and taky torches. Let's get out of here. But yeah,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: but I did in other literal studies, I'd like to
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: check those out. We're talking about it. You had a
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: bit for a while. You had a bit for I
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: want to talk with the inception of the liberal redneck.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: You had a bit for a while where you do
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: sort of that it would be like that same joke
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: he was talking about when you're talking about like having
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: a liberal perspective coming from a rural Southerner. Yeah, but
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: then you started doing it for real? Exactly what was
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: it the guy you going on it? Well, when did
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: you start to do this free standing without all the
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: without all the build up. You know, there's actually a
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: very specific that I know exactly what it was because
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: I had that bit for a little while. I told
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: my comic friends, I'm thinking about making a series, an
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: internet series based on that idea. Every one of them
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: was like, that's a really good idea. You absolutely should
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: do that. But at the time I was like, I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, man, I have to like
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: save up money and buy a nice camera. I have
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: to learn how to edit. I'm theed lighting. It'll have
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: to can't look like an amateur, you know. I thought
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: there was like a barrier, you know. I thought I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: had to do better, like in terms of that. And
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: then one day, in like the spring of twenty sixteen,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: North Carolina had passed that anti trans bathroom law they
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: had right at the transgender bathroom law. You guys remember that, Yeah,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: do you remember, I can't remember, they passed a law
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: prohibiting trans people from using but you had to go
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: to the bathroom of your biological birth gender or whatever.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: So like a trans woman who is now a woman
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: would have to go to mend room or that law
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So anyway they had made that law. I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: saw this video that was going viral amongst the right,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: so like I saw people and I went to high
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: school with sharing it on Facebook. And it was this
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: preacher in North Carolina who was mad as hell about
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: this whole thing. He's like preaching fire and Brimstone out
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: in the woods for some reason, you know, yelling at
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: his phone and not being funny at all, not a
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: dick joking site, just like just nothing, but but just
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: you know, fire and brimstone, shocking all about the horrors
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: of these animals in the bathroom with our baby girls
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: and whatever else. And this video had like fifteen million
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: views on Facebook, right, And when I saw that, it
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: was like a lightbulb went off. I was like, well,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: if that guy, if that thing is like the thing
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make fun of, then like I don't
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: need any that fancy shit, like in fact, that would
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: be a mistake, like I should just do it exactly
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the way that he does. I should just go out
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: and yell at my phone, right, and now it's like
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: the simplest thing in the world. But like I hadn't
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: looked at it that way until I saw that guy,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: and then I realized. And after I realized, I went
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: out and I made the first one. The first one
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: was about my home state of Tennessee, trying to make
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the Holy Bible the official state buck right, and it
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: got like seventy thousand views or something, which I was
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: over the moon about. I was complete anonymity at this time,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Like I was blown away by that. So I was like,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely onto something. I'll keep going. I made the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: second one. The second one was about the transgender bathroom law,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: and it ended up getting like tens of millions of
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: views and went like crazy viral and changed my life
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: literally overnight. So wherever that preacher is, I hope he
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: knows it, like this was all his fault, mysterious ways.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm right, buddy. So when when you had that and
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: it took off, but you still would do normal, like
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: you didn't just totally that then become your comedy bit
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: though stage. Yeah, you had to keep it separate. Yes,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: and I do keep it separate. But I'd like to say,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: and I've been you know, I've been touring post going
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: viral for seven years now, and so I feel pretty
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: comfortable saying that, Like, if people like those videos, I
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: think they'll like my stand up too. And I also
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: think that maybe people that don't like those videos or
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear just a bunch of political stuff
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: would also still like a lot of my stand up
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: because I'm still the same guy, right, So like I'm
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: still like scratching a lot of the same itches or
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: touch you know what I mean. I'm still like in
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the same ballpark just by virtue of just being who
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I am. But no, I do not like rant about
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: politics on stage as a stand up. I do, like,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: you know, more traditional stand up material about whatever subjects
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: has you're there's a difference between you could have political
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: differences right with your friends you grew up with. But
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna have if you're gonna do political differences
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: and then get tons of audience, right, I could see
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: that causing friction. Do you have friction with people you
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: grew up around? Yeah, I mean, I really hate to
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: say this, but I mean some of them, I feel
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: like it's just broken now. There was like friction at first,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: and gradually it's nothing ever happened. It was never like,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: you know what we're done, Nothing like that ever happened.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: But I just at a certain point you realize, like
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I ain't heard from or talk to him in a
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: really long time, and like that's also on me, you
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it got not with all
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: of them. A lot of my friends are like, they're
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: like me. They're either a political or they're more you know,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: they like lean left. A lot of the other Salina boys,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the group of buddies I grew up with them.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm still tight with. But some of them, yeah, it
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: got weird. But if I ran into them at Christmas
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever, I know that it would be cool, Like
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: we'd you know, hug it out. Might be slightly awkward,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: but it would be okay. But like we almost never
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: used to talk politics at all ever. And one of
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: the times that just happened. I had rented a house
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: bottom Dalhalla where everybody went out there, brought their kids
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. And one of the guys I'm talking about
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: like he comes up to being out of nowhere, like
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: we're staying there drinking beer, looking at a fire on
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: the lakeside or whatever, and out of nowhere. He's like,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, tray, you know me, man, He's like, you know,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: like I worked my job, I pay my taxes or
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: raise my kids, like I'm a you know, I'm an
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: upstanding member of society or whatever. And it's like and
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: he is, He's an all American family man, one hundred percent.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I know, buddy, And he
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: was like, I just don't understand why you think I
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: ought not be able to have a gun right. And
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't think that, buddy, you know,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: And he's like, what do you mean. I was like,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I've never said I don't know why
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: you think. I think he just found out that I
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: was like liberal and then assumed I wanted to take
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: everybody's guns or whatever. And I was like, I was like,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, you helped me move my grandpa's guns
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: to my house, Like where you think? Like wh you
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: think happened to it? But I told him, I was like,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, I I've never thought that was like,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, I think there's a
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people in this country or dangerous or unhinged
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and they shouldn't have a gun, and maybe
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: we should try to find better ways to keep guns
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: out of those people's hands. And he was like, well, hell,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I was like right. I
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, so we pretty much are
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: on the same page, right, you know, but like you
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: just assumed that it wasn't the case, because I feel
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people do that. If someone self
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: identifies as being on the other side of the fence
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: politically from you, people tend to like automatically assign them
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: to the far end of that special you know what
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, And it works in both directions, and most
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: of the time that's not that's not the case. Like
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: those people do exist, and I could do without either
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: one of them, you know, the extremest on either end.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not not a big fan of. Most people are
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: not really that far separated from each other on most
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: of like the big things I think, you know what
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the centrist, the centrist redneck isn't funny. No, No,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not a centrist at all. I'm just saying, like,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: I think that if you were, it's not funny, right, Like,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: you know, it just has to be. That says a lot.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you get it. Yeah, no, it doesn't. You know,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't need to do the whole. I don't need
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: to do the whole. I don't agree with you on
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: everything because I pointing out the people. I don't agree
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: with anybody and everything, right, including my mom and my wife.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: That's also so, I don't agree with anybody and everything.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: But I think I like you're that'sh it's funny. I
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: like your I mean appreciate I could watch uh it's funny.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: It pains me that no one there might be a
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: lot to it. It pains me that that very few
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: people from the right of the political spectrum can do
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: that kind of humor. M there's probably like a scientific
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: explanation for it. There's some that can. They've done it,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: like the right has very like some comedians have very
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: effectively made jokes about the excesses of the left. But
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: even like you're looking like Bill Maher right, he's from
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: the left, right, but he's very good at making jokes
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: about the excesses of the left. So they've been able
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: to do that. There's it's like, I don't know, there's
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: just a lack of there's not that much really funny
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: news commentary coming from the right. It's just they don't
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with because it's like they if
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: you have a right like a perspective from the right
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: looking at commentary is much more likely to go what
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: world coming to? Yeah, that someone needs to pay that's what,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: and they're less likely to do like, holy shit, dude,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And then joke about it. No, No,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what that was gonna be My
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: response to that. It does seem like that's more of
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: the default state of their commentary is more I a
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: geared towards like vitriol and that sort of thing. That's
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: a hot tip for comedian for right wing comedians. Just
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: figure out how to do funny news commentary at night
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: and you probably get a big show. Uh yeah, you
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: know there's something like, uh, well, nah, he's not he's
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: not straight up right. When I was gonna say, I
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: think one of the funniest dudes on earth is you know,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Tim Dillon, and he's kind of you don't know, Tim
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Dillon he's so funny and he's like he but he's not, like,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: he's not super right wing. He's sort of got his
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: own thing going on politically, do you know what I mean.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. I just uh, he's kind of
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: you know, he's got a huge podcast and stuff lately.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: So I just thought that, you know, he might be
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: a reference point people know. He's like a he's a
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: d He's like a very long Island d like New
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Yorker guy. He's like a like a tough talking kind
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: of conservative dude. But he's also a gay man. And
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: so it's like, but he's just I'm just saying he's
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: not a lefty and he's super funny. So like and
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Nick de Polo, I haven't you know, he's been a
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: comic for forever. I always thought he was super funny.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I know he's very conservative. Like there's you know, there's
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: some Dennis Miller turn conservative. I was always a huge
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: fan of his. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Um,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: so you know there's some when I'm watching yourself though, man,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I'm always like I'm like, uh, I always have this
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: thing in my head. I'm like, that's a good point,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: and um, I'll think, like if if you're talking about
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: something that I'm not totally on board with your perspective
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: on it, I'm listening, I'm like, damn it, that's a
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: good point and someone would have to really think of
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: a good way to get around that one. I got
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: nothing here. Really, I really appreciate all the stuff you're saying,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: because that's like I try to you know. I mean,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm going for a lot of times, Like
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: even if you disagree with me, you can like at
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: least have to acknowledge part of where I'm coming from. Yeah,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like really, um, it's really funny, fun
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: compelling arguments and then you kind of you know it too.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Is like I guess for me, right, you know, for
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: me being a Yankee, I guess maybe in some way
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I'm as guilty of the ship that you're talking about,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: the like stereotypes and stuff. You man, I don't know,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: it's funny, like you know it, it's it's somehow in
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: my head. It's um. Maybe I'll like I'll never get
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: over the surprise of like the joke in the first place. Yeah, right, yes,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: it's the joke in the first place. If you're gonna
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: hear someone you know as like you're there with with
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: your sort of background vocabulary, way of expression, accent on
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: a rant with a camo hat. I feel like, let
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: me let me guess how this guy feels about the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: best feels about the bathroom is well, you know, I
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: mean that's like I mean that right there is the
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: whole sason, you know what i mean. I'm just like
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: I could just I can hear it before you start,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: and then you like it winds up being like not
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: at all you want you're going to hear. I mean
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: that is kind of like my whole thing right there,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, what how you
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: just laid that out? I feel like that's it's kind
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: of putting it in a nutshell the videos at least,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: because I mean, yeah, it's none of it would like
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: have worked the way that it does if people weren't
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: thinking that or thinking the same thing, you know. I mean,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: I'm very aware of it, and I and I get it.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: It's just like that's the thing too when it comes
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: to South and stereotypes, I'm always like I'm not trying
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: to say that they don't exist, like stereotypess this for
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: reasons like a lot of those people are you know,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff is real. It's just that
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: we don't have a monopoly on it. It's like you
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: said earlier, I don't remember if we recording yet or not.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Walmart got brought up and oh and you and you
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: were like, we got those people up here too, and
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: like right, like that, well, let me let me do
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: it right, because Yanni's not guilty of doing that. I
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: did that right. So what Clay, our colleague Clay who
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: tell about earlier, has a UM. He has a very
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: good podcast called Beargreas Podcast, and in it he's exploring them.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: He's from Arkansas, and somewhere he found that like for
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: some long span of years, Arkansas was the most maligned
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: state in the Union, not even over Mississippi. Well, I
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: think it got beat by West Virginia or something. West Virginia.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: For a long time, Arkansas is the most maligned thing.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: And he's talking about the um sort of the persecution
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: complex of yes of hill people, country people in Arkansas.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: And when he's laying this out to me, he was
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: get into how there's when when you get into the
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: complexity of it, though, he goes you know, not many
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: people would guess that this world class art gallery. I
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it. You know, Crystal Bridges.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you would know that Crystal Bridges, this
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: world class art galleries in Arkansas. Right, and he goes
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: and you might not know the Walmart all right, And
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I was laughing with I was laughing at being like,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: I feel that that is on the other side of
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: the art, right, that's not coupled with Crystal Bridges just
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: totally exports Arkansas, Yeah, totally, yeah, like as a total
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: So when you came here talking about our Walmart conversation,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: we were laughing about me and Clay's sort of public
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: debate about yeah, what what in the popular imagination when
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: people think of Walmart and sort of how it's treated
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: in the comedy world. Right, if you're gonna if a
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: comedian is gonna do a Walmart joke, Yeah, it's not
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be about sophisticated business practices, right, it's not gonna
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: be about revolutionizing yeah, supply chain innovation. Yeah. Yeah, it's
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: like you're limiting edge logistics. I'm a new bleeding edge logistics.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Bet about Walmart, it would be a wild angle to take,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: but they U. Yeah, well it's not just like comics
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: doing bitsy. I mean there's like, you know, people of Walmart.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, you know what I'm talking about, Like,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: so there's a sub bredded. I think there's an Instagram.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: It's like they just post pictures of people of Walmart
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: and the y in their natural habitat, you know, the
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: the chipsisle or whatever like and you know, so I
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: mean it's just like it's a thing. You know, it's not.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: But anyway, you said that we're talking about that. I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: said something about it and Jannest was like, well, to
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: be fair, like we got those up here too, And
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. It's like, especially since I started
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: traveling as a comedian, everything going all over the place.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Like if you drive from Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: which I have done, like the topography and everything is different,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: but like culturally speaking, you start seeing a lot of
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: very familiar stuff if you're from the rural South, you
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, the same thing between San Francisco dichotomy. Yeah, right,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: like you know the whole Like there's the man out
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: self identify as Rednecks, but there's you know, redneck adjacent
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: people and pretty much every state in this country, I mean,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: eastern Washington on the rednecks proud of it, no doubt, right, yeah,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: I know some of them are, like some of them are, yeah,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: proud of it. And I think like the way country music,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Nashville country, like radio country music has gone in recent years,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: is added to like the sort of like, you know,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: having that as an identity strongly wherever you're from, like
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: if you're from Maine or wherever, you know, but like
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: redneck and proud, you know, because it's become more of
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: a like just like a cultural identification or something the
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: country recent years. Yeah, right exactly. But yeah, that's the
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: only genre of music that I'll that like, I don't.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: I don't have like favorite genres. I have like artists
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: that I like and whatever, but like radio countries, only
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: when I take like personally you know what I like,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: I uh, I don't know, I can't stand it, like
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I like, well, like the stuff that is on the radio,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: not like yeah, you know, like not what they call Americana, right,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: which Americans like Stargill Simpson, Jason Zwell, Tyler Childress whatever.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: And I've always thought like as far as I could tell,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Americana is just country music. That's good, right, So they
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: can't call it. They can't call it country, have to
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: call it something else. But uh but yeah, like the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: last time I went downtown in Nashville, because I grew
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: up going to Nashville all the time and I still
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: go every year and do shows and stuff. But the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: last time I went downtown the real touristy part Broadway,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Second Avenue, Honky Talking, right, I was in town with
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: this camera crew. They're all California people, and they wanted
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: they wanted to go Honky talk, like they specifically wanted
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: to go downtown, and I was like, I don't want,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: you know, but I was like the the local guys.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'll go with you. And we
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: get down there and they're like, uh. I just get
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: in there and I have a couple drinks. I'm looking
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: around and it's like to me, I just see all
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: these people that are like like cosplaying as my cousin
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Kenny Ray or something like that, like you know what
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like they go down to go to redneck
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: fantasy camp or something, you know, and like it just uh,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll just I'll get my red up
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: as it where I'll get annoyed. The last time I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: got kicked down, I got kicked out of a bar
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: down there because they started playing Courtesy of the Red, White,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: and Blue, and everybody's singing along while this dude and
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: a cut off camo shirt like white it stands on
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: the bar, and waves of American fly back and forth
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: across everybody else and all this stuff. And I started screaming.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: This is no longer true. I've since found out, but this,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: at one point was true. I started screaming at the
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: top of my lungs. Toby Keith is a registered democratister Democrat,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: and they kicked me out for it. But uh and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: you were lying anyway, now he was He's not, you
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: know you are. You're right. I was lying because I
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: said he is a registered Democrat and that's not. He's
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: not anymore. But around the time, that's emblematic of himself.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: That is, You're right, it's true. What do you call it?
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: Um blue dog? Uh? No, when something's that, like a
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: small thing is emblematic of something larger, microcosm, microcosm of
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: the American soulf and held it. Yeah, you're right. Man,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: I want to come see you do a show sometimes.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I'd love it. Yeah, Montana's I am. Yeah. You go
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: to tray Crowder dot com check it out. Also got
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: a special on Amazon right now. You can find there
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: as well, which we watched. It was funny shows coming
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: up Montana. I was actually about to say, I need
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: to get on to my agent about this. Montana is
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: one of only like four or five states left in
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: America that I have not done stand up in. Have
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: you done Alaska? That's one of the other ones. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: North Dakota. I've been to far I got Maston Fargo
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: on accident. On accident, I sort like we somebody else. Yes, Yes,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: the elevator doors open, we're holding pizza. We're going back
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: to our tail round to record a podcast. Elevator doors open,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: just pandamon them pepper spray. Ever, some dude runs by
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: bleeding from the nose and a wife beater like, you know,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: trying to get the hell out of there. We're like,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: we start coughing, throwing up and stuff or you know,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: almost thrown up. It was wild, And then the hotel
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: was really weird. Is they It's almost like they wouldn't
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: even acknowledge that it had happened. Like like, after we
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: try to talk to him, we're like like, we're not like,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: we're not trying to complain, We're not gonna file charges
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: or so anybody or whatever, but just like just what
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: was that about, you know, And they're like, we, uh,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I really shouldn't speak on that kind of thing.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you or whatever. Like
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: they just wouldn't. They just wouldn't even acknowledge that this
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: incident had occurred. So I still don't know the details
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: of it. But yeah, I got I got inadvertently macedon Fargo.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: The show was fun though, South Dakota is one of
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: them though, so yeah, but I'd love to come back
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: to Montana and do a show up here. I just
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: even when I got here, just driving around, I was like,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: I need to send my agent an email about making
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, tell us. I just realized there's all
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: kinds of people here, right, Yeah, more and more, right,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. I
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: feel like like music, you're you're surprised by um, you're
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: surprised by the musicians that come through here. Yeah, I
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: mean because because you know, relative to the relatively low population,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: you're surprised by the musicians, but you're not often surprised
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: by well me and Crean saw Chappelle. Yeah, but but
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: there's not like it's not like a big stop. It's
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: not like a big stop for like, it's not a
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: big comedy stop. Right, Maybe that's changing. Maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: I feel it's a big comedy. So yeah, I think
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: there's like a new club that someone from California moved
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: here to open. I don't remember what it's called. I've
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: never been there, but it last best coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: then there's a little problem where I don't go out
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: that heard that I mean other than not out I know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: I don't. That's one of the things. One of the
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: upsides that I had in mind for having kids, like
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: I told you other trying to think of like the
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: positives having kids or whatever, is that kids are like
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: a cheap code for getting out of shit and like
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: canceling plans, like no one's ever gonna question you can
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: get out of whatever you want to get out of it.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: As you get older, like getting out of stuff. It's
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: like way better than going to stuff, and when you
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: got to go to something, when you got to go
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: to something, you don't want to go to these one
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: of your kids exactly that way, you can come exactly
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: focus on them, talk to them, pay attention to them,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: and then leverage them as why you gotta go, why
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: you gotta go, why you gotta get out of there? Exactly?
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Love it? Yeah, I love it. It's a great thing.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: It drives a real wedge in my marriage that I
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: don't like to do stuff. Yeah, I don't like to
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: go out in public. Right, Yeah, I mean my wife's
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: the same way. But I tell you, I mean you're
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: probably travel even more than I do, I guess or not, right,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: like in a super public way with it. We kind
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: of hold up. Yeah, right, we totally hold up. But
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: is that But is that why because you travel so
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: much when you're back here you just don't want to
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: do nothing? Or also you just can't go out? No,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: it's older, I get yeah, right, I just don't want
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: to do it. I just don't. I don't want to.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't like engaging that much. You know, it
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: gets a problem I got to work through totally or not.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: We could also just not which is probably what you
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: just gonna get yourself one of them red hats. Oh yeah,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about people. Oh yeah, brother, I feel like, man,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: I never knew it could be so fun to go out.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: I knew it a lot more fun. I need to get, Like, yeah,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: I need to get a Biden hat and go out.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: No one will talk to me. Do we still enough
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: time to take and tell me why all soulinders are
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: just born good storytellers? Oh yeah, this is good to
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: explore your prejudice. Yeah, his prejudice or you better at it.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Oh man, you know, I don't want to I want
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: to start any kind of uh, you know, regional dispute
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: or anything. But got in supremacy of storytelling supremacy. But
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: it's definitely like a thing. And like I got this one, buddy.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: He's just a good old boy. His actual like his
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: nickname is Porno. Actually nickname's Regulars, Like you know, Porno
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: ducks Sunshine, right, But anyway, Porno's like he's like a machinist,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know, works in a factory. Good dude, everything pretty
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: damn country from my hometown and all this, and he's
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: just like but he's not any kind performer is what
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And but he's just like just a natural
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: masterclass storyteller, do you know what I mean, Like he'll
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: just anytime he's done anything, like if you ask him
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: about it, you know you're in for a good time,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the fair he came
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: to visit me in Knoxville from our hometown. This man
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: at this point in time I'm talking about, he was
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: probably thirty two, thirty one, thirty two, first time he'd
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: ever driven on the interstate, right, And so like I
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: knew that was gonna be funny when he got there, right,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: you know, Man, he comes through just like all out
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: of whack. It's like sweating and like god, damn something,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: Oh he's animals out here, you know whatever. And then
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: it's like tell me all about it, porno, you know,
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: And then he does, and it's always tremendous. As for
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: why that is, I wish I had an answer for you,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, some things are just like
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: ingrained culturally, I guess. Like and also we're big and
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: I mean this in a I mean this in a
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: good way where like we're big bullshitters. Yeah, do you know,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: like just naturally like I'm agreeing because I understand that
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: you're saying that in a positive light. Yeah, right now,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: abellish things for either you know, comedic or dramatic effect
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: or whatever. It's just like that's also a big thing culturally.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: It's like everybody's like a little bit fool of ship,
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: but in a fun way, you know. And I think
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: that you know, that helps him telling a story if
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: you're the type of person to do that kind of thing.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: And when I married a gal from the South, from
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, and when I got introduced to the South,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would go and visit just feel like,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: this is great. I'm just gonna listen to people talking,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: laugh my ass off, yeah now because the accident, because
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: the stories are good and I'm laughing, it's great. So
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: I was entertained by it. So when you went to
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: Michigan for the first time, were you like, fuck, these
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: people were boring? Oh yeah, that's a good way of
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: putting it. Did you think they were great storytellers? Uh? No, No,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: but I didn't think. I didn't think they were boring
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: or anything. I mean, my first first time I ever
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: went to Michigan was up that old day job. I
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: spent a week in Michigan at a training thing with
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: other people. They worked for the Department of Defense, So
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: it was like a pretty like buttoned up affair, do
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But I remember one time
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics of it. We were broken
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: up into a group. We're having to decide on something.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree. One girl said one thing, another girl
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: said the other, and I said, quoting old brother where
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: art Thou? I said, well, I'm with you fellers right,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: like just playing around, And I could tell that they
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: both just thought I was just saying that, do you
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they had no idea it was.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: I was quoting a movie or doing a bit or whatever.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: They were just like, okay, that doesn't help, but all right,
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, I don't know. I like, I've
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: gone to appreciate the Midwest because I think that, like, um, well,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: because I also like why, I don't know, I don't
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: know where you're from originally, but you're talk about getting
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: introduced to the South, Like I feel like you guys
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: in particular, like your whole thing, Like this is gonna
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: sound so dumb, but I can remember I can remember
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: being surprised also to find out that like hunting and
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: fishing and all that type of stuff was so big
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: in other parts of the country too. Like as a kid,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that was all South shit. Yeah, right, like
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: because it was such a huge thing there, and I
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: knew it wasn't a thing everywhere, and I thought that
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: was like like a Southern thing, but obviously it's not.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: And so I'm saying, like, it's just I just feel
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: like there's a whole lot of overlap, you know what
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, like cultural overlor in terms of interest and whatnot.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna sound different, but still you know, it
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be too alien to you. I wouldn't think a
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: lot of you can definitely find a lot of common ground.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: I would think, you know, sportsman for sure. Man. Yeah,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: but uh but yeah. But are people in Michigan good
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: telling stories? I don't. I don't know. Yeah, right, I think, Well,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: let me here's the way of putting it. Here's what
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap her up. I gotta tell you
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: one last story. Me and Ronnie Bang okay, missile, Me
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: and another very Yankee person. We were down in South
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: Carolina one time. We're with some guys, we're working up
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: a custom load for a rifle. So you go out
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: shoot a couple rounds okay, and you go back into
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: the reloading bench and mess around and the amount Like
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: he was losing his mind because the going in, getting
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: the ice tea and talking and everybody sits down. Yeah right,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: and he's like, holy shit, man, this should take twenty minutes.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: He was the thing. Yeah, the world and he like
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: he went on rant yeah afterward about he went on
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: a rant about what in the world, you know. I
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: think he attributed it to there's no sense of needing
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: to um. He at treated that there's no sense of
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: needing to get like the wood cut and the crop
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: in right because the cold's coming. Yeah no, yeah, yeah,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: winter is not coming. I'll say. It's like, you know,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: he just cut though this cut would later now is
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to go anywhere because the snow
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: life definitely does move at like a slower pace like
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: legitimate layers, like I feel like a lot of rednecks
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: lost Southern people, will you know, take half an hour
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: or forty five minutes to say goodbye, to like leave
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: a place. Show Man's like, well, better get out of here.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: You know, and then they stand up and they're like
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: you talp the page lately, you know, just start a
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: whole new thing, and then, you know, and then end
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: up in the driveway standing by the truck having a
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: whole separate conversation for ten fifth table minutes. Get in
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: the truck, roll the window down to keep talking, you know,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: highly pull out on Yale on their way out the
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: guns from Birmingham, Alabama. Whenever we try to leave your house,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: it'd be a three hour affairs off for us, four
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: different dishes or something, and you know to take well,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: you're gonna drive up and blow away. There's Midwest comics
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: that do best bits about the Midwest Goodbye, and it's
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: very similar. Well stay right there, yeah, yeah, like start
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: by putting your coat on, then stay at the door
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: and have another beer, and then you have to stay
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: longer because you gotta let that beer wear off, and yeah,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: so on, so on and so forth. Yeah, that's what
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It is, like I do think there's like
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of cultural overlap really between the because also
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: it's like that's all as far as like the coast
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: coastal elites and all that stuff, you know, the Midwest.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: Also is that's flyover country? Do you know what I mean? Like,
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: there's it's all the middle part of America that you know,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: the coast looks down their noses at or whatever, and
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: there's just I don't know, there's a lot of I
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of common ground there or should be,
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: but I think it's probably the Southerners who would hold
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: it up because you know, the whole Yankee thing. No, yeah,
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: all right, man, tell people how to find you pretty
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: much just by name, which is spelled round because I'm
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: white trash. It's a t r a E Crowder. How
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: are they supposed to spell it t r e y generally?
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: Oh tr a e r a E Crowder dot com
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: or just that's how people can find your shows. That's
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: find my shows and the special But any social media
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: you use, it's also I'm also just Trey Crowder on there,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: except for Instagram because of some bitch scoped me. So
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: I'm official Tray Crowder on Instagram. But the rest of
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: them are just Trey Crowder, so pretty much just called
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: scoped scoped. Yeah, I said scooped, scooped, Oh yeah, no,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: I know, I was asking you scooped you you know,
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: like you know, like contact information online, you dex them
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: docks docks. Yeah, yeah, docs. I thought I thought sculped
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: was getting I mean, I kind of feel like that
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: maybe works better. Really start having Well that's what it is.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: If he gets scooped, Like as a journal somebody beat
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: you to the story or whatever, you get scooped. And
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: that's I think why I said that. But I didn't
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: even really think about it. But scoped, I like scoped better.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's act like that. I was called unawares right, Yeah, yeah,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming. Yeah, like even happened to Trump.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: You had to do the real Donald Trump because someone
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: else picked up is yeah. Thing all right, man, Some
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: people find you there if you're if you're if you're
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: a big left and you'd like to laugh, we'll check
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: them out. If you're a super right wing guy and
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: you want to be all pissed off and laugh, check
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: them out. Yeah, either way, were welcome either way. A
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: lot of rightway people come to my shows because they
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: get drugged there by their spouse or whatever. And usually
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: usually at the end of the show they're like, I
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: didn't agree with the damn word you said. But you
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: are funny. Though I like to give you that, I
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: think you'll dig as redneck. Anyway, Thank you guys for
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: having me. This was great. Appreciate it man, good, Yeah,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming. All right, all on, see your gray
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: shine like silver in the sun. Right on, all right,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: all alight on, sweetheart, we're done. Beat this damn horse
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: to death to take it the new one and ride.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: We're done beat this damn horse today, so take your
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: new one and ride on.