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Mindset, Grace and God's guidance · Christian Business Growth Podcast

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  Hello, this is Lyle.
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  Welcome to the Christian Business Growth Podcast.
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  Today I'm here with Valerie Pugsley.
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  She's over there.
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  um So Valerie, tell us what made you decide to be an entrepreneur?
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  That is a good question.
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  I had one answer when you first asked me and then I remembered another one.
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  So actually I can go way back to childhood and I remember in um my teens or pre-teens I had some stepsisters and we would, I would make shows.
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  I would direct them and tell them what to do.
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  And then after we practiced and it was good, then we would go around the neighborhood and sell tickets and do a show.
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  out in our front, it's not quite our front yard, we this little space between the house and garage and we'd set up picnic benches and then perform our little show for, you know,
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  a nickel or a quarter or something like that.
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  So it goes way back, but more recently it was when I uh retired from homeschooling.
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  In other words, I graduated both my daughters from homeschooling and was figuring out what to do next.
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  And so that's when I entered into entrepreneurship later in life.
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  later in life.
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  And so you're doing coaching.
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  that correct?
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  Tell us a little bit more about what you do specifically.
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  Yeah, so I do mindset coaching.
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  So when I first started out, I was actually doing marketing, which there's a parallel with us on that.
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  And it, that it changes so fast with all the social media and things all the time.
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  And I was getting overwhelmed with all that.
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  And additionally, I was realizing that I had a lot of mindset issues.
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  kept hearing people talk about mindset.
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  I'm like, well, I think I need help with that.
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  is that?
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  And trying to find somebody who did just that.
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  was
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  there weren't a lot of that are doing just that, right?
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  Right.
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  Now this thing, and then they do the mindset, but I was seeing the mindset as the big, the big piece, the common denominator.
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  And when I would see not only my own self, but in others, the thing holding them back, wasn't the how to do the Facebook ads or the Pinterest post or the, or the whatever.
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  It's the mindset, the stuff that's going on in the gray matter that's holding us back.
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  Give me an example.
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  What's one thing that you've ran into frequently when dealing with people that's that mindset that just takes them off track in their business?
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  So I don't know when, I don't know as you're saying this, like a bunch of things are coming to mind.
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  So if I process it down, I'm going to go approach it from a little different direction.
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  I think the one theme that tends to be like, there's like about three themes that everybody has one of these three, but the one that I see the most, the one that I
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  experienced as well is what I call enoughness.
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  And it's like, I don't have enough time.
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  I don't have enough Lenny.
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  I'm not smart enough.
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  I'm not, it's like,
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  something is not enough.
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  Well, as we're talking to Christians here, yeah, but we serve the creator of the universe who has an abundance.
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  Right.
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  So why are we operating from this place of scarcity and not enoughness versus this abundance?
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  And, and I think as Christians, a lot of times we'll tend to get judgmental on ourselves that I'm not doing this thing or that thing.
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  You start getting into neuroscience and understand
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  the brain works and you see a lot of these are just patterns that were placed in our brains a long time ago.
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  Scripture even tells us be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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  So as we work on that mindset and change those stories, then we can change the things that move us forward.
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  So I don't know if that exactly answers.
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  That's really good because we have this abundance mentality in the secular world, but we don't realize that comes from God.
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  It's not about the universe lining up with you, it's about God and you aligning together to move forward into the calling you've been called into business.
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  I think it's a powerful thing.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think too with the whole universe thing, I think some of the things that people are discovering or observing are there, right?
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  It's how God designed the universe to work, they're worshiping the creation versus the creator, or they're just looking at the creation as the answer instead of the source.
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  Like they talked about source a lot, right?
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  But the source being the creator of the universe and
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  Yeah, a lot of a lot of the things that you'll run into are scriptural, but they've taken God out of it.
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  Yeah, that makes total sense.
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  So tell me, as you've developed in your business, whether you went from doing shows in the neighborhood into coaching people individually, how has God worked in your life and helped
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  you to make those decisions?
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  Hmm.
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  Make those decisions.
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  I think it's more what I have been growing in the last several years since I've been on this entrepreneurial journey is really trusting.
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  um I call it the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit, but not in the way that maybe we think of in what I call churchianity and Christian ease.
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  Right.
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  We have our
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  Our ideal idea of I get up at 5am and spend an hour in scripture with my journal and that maybe that if you do that is awesome.
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  Go for it.
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  And I've had seasons in life when I've done that.
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  Don't miss everybody may not be that way.
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  Right.
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  And we have our different times in our different places.
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  But I've come to the conclusion, at least at this point, that
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  If I am, I have an active prayer life, I am in the word, I am in fellowship, I'm in all of these things that the things that are coming to my ideas that come up or the, you know,
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  the heart desires are these things that, all right, let's go with it.
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  That's God's leading incident.
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  is this God's will or, you know, and stressing and struggling over it.
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  Just go even.
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  Even the, you know, you and I are working on a project different from here, right?
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  Even that is just like, uh, and I like, you know what?
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  I just kind of felt like, all right, yeah, go ahead.
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  Move forward with this.
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  Right.
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  And instead of getting all worked up and stressed out and, know, getting into that enoughness thing, right.
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  You know, I think just.
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  trusting that the Spirit is leading and guiding me and if I make a wrong step or if I go the wrong way, He'll redirect me and it's okay.
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  And the things that we're experiencing, it's not necessarily I've done something wrong or there's a sin involved, that this is just another step on the journey and what is it that
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  I need to learn here?
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  What do you want me learn Lord?
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  What's the learning?
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  Looking at it more from kind of an objective non-judgment.
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  perspective, not to say that there isn't judgment, right?
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  Yes, there is.
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  But in the day to day, in the day to day, things forward, going, OK, this didn't go as well as planned.
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  All right.
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  Well, did I have a part in that?
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  um Yeah, I did.
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  I could have done this differently.
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  I could have done that differently.
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  next time, and this is kind of that programming we were talking about earlier, right, where we have old programming and creating new programming, when something doesn't work
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  well, instead of
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  you know, beat ourselves up that it didn't work, yada, yada, yada.
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  It's like, okay, let's, let's just look at the facts.
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  What are the facts?
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  this and this and this.
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  All right.
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  Next time.
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  What do I want to do differently?
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  Okay.
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  Next time I want to do that, that, that, that, Or whatever God puts on our heart next time, do this, that, this, that, as we do that, we are now programming our brain that God
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  created that thing we want to do in the future.
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  Instead of continually beating ourselves up for what didn't work well and repeating that oh, I'm such a this I'm such a that I always this I always that you just programmed into
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  your mind to do that thing again So I feel like I'm going off now rambling, but it's okay.
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  It really is just uh Trusting that God is leading and guiding me that thought that his spirit will move me as I need to be moved if if I
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  go off track and even if I do go off track, did I really go off track?
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  Or is this just one of the steps that I needed to take?
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  Right.
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  Learn the thing that I needed to learn for the next step in the next place that he's taking me.
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  Yeah, you and I talked about self compassion and grace.
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  Tell me a little bit more.
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  I kind of expound that a little bit because we talked a little bit.
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  Yeah.
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  So talk about grace and curiosity a lot.
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  And I'll use actually a video that I have that actually did it.
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  I think it just came out yesterday on my YouTube channel, but about procrastination, right?
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  A lot of people struggle with procrastination.
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  And I talk about procrastination being a signal instead of a character flaw, right?
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  Which is how a lot of us see it.
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  Right.
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  And so understanding that
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  Our brain's job, one of its main jobs is to protect us and keep us safe.
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  So through life, things happen to us, especially in childhood, in our early years.
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  And we go, oh, don't want that to happen again.
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  And so we put mechanisms in place to protect ourselves from making that thing, from keeping that thing to happen again.
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  And different people put in different mechanisms, right?
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  Perception and procrastination.
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  uh
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  Create like over overachievers, right?
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  Part of that is the protection from keeping that thing from happening again.
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  So when we realize that that's just part of the human design, whether by design or the fall, right?
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  One or the other, it's just part of being human.
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  So first of all, when you find yourself in a situation that is less than optimal, you don't like it, whatever, it's like first,
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  Whatever your response is, give yourself grace for being human and now get curious.
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  You know what, what are the causes?
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  And as Christians, I think automatically will tend to go, I send.
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  Maybe you did, but maybe you didn't.
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  Maybe, you know, and I go into it in that video there, there could be other causes that cause to do things or things to go a certain way.
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  But if we just give ourselves grace for being human,
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  And then now get curious.
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  And even in that curiosity for me, a lot of times it involves prayer.
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  You we were talking earlier before the call about the words, our self-talk and our words.
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  As I started changing my self-talk, a lot of times I would recognize something that I didn't want to keep saying.
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  And then I go, okay, but what's the reframe, Lord?
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  I don't know.
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  And he'd give me the reframe, right?
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  And he would turn, he would help me turn it around.
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  So.
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  It's, you know, that's so that's grace and curiosity.
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  Give yourself grace for being human.
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  I now get curious as to what's, what's the solution or what's what what do we do about this current circumstance?
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  Yeah, you and I were talking about a worksheet we were working on.
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  And one of things are when you start to talk to yourself, would you talk to someone else that way?
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  And then I would like to change it based on what you just said is would God talk to you that way?
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  God would never call you stupid or idiot or failure.
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  He would call you his child.
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  I think when we accept that identity as his child, that in and of itself changes the way we think about ourselves and the things we deal with on a daily basis.
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  It can, but not for everybody.
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  Because some people who have used that language and maybe whose parents talked to them that way, they didn't have good parents, they may think that God talks to them that way.
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  Even though he doesn't, right?
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  In scripture, we don't see him talking to his children that way.
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  But that's where sometimes people who have, you know, have traumatic
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  upbringings with either parent, sometimes we superimpose those traits onto God.
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  And that's why we keep talking to ourselves that way.
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  Right.
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  OK.
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  Good point.
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  Good point.
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  And so as we move to our next segment, what are some things you're currently doing that's helping your business grow that might help another Christian entrepreneur grow their
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  business?
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  Hmm, that is a good question.
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  I would say being open to partnerships.
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  Yes.
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  Is is um is one of the things.
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  And um actually, this one might be a little different.
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  I think you'll like it, Lyle.
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  Utilizing AI and I know that can be a scary thing for some people.
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  Some people might think it's bad and whatnot.
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  I'm I am
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  approaching it from a tool and I'm also approaching it from the perspective of um as if these large language learning model, I think that's what it's called.
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  Right.
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  If it's learning, if I'm interacting it, then I'm infusing a little bit of God principles into it.
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  Right.
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  I want to get as much God principles into it as I can.
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  Right.
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  Let it let it come to that.
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  Because who knows what everybody else is putting it.
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  But I
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  I have found using that very helpful.
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  was, recently received a diagnosis from something that I had a suspicion of and creating a business coach that address an AI business coach that operates from that perspective has
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  been very helpful when I get into one of my rabbit trails or spirals or whatever, taking that over to AI.
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  you know, it doesn't totally solve it, but it just, it helps, it helps gather the data, put it in a different perspective, put it in a certain way.
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  like, all right, I still can't quite work with that, but I can work with that, that, and that.
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  Then I give it back, go, I can do this, this, and this.
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  And then it spits something out.
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  And so I would say that's really been helping me a lot with speed and moving things forward.
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  Yeah, and you and I talked a little bit about this, the AI, don't take the first answer you get, push AI a little bit, because the first answer is what's giving everybody in the
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  world.
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  So you've got to push it and identify it to make it fit for you.
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  And again, I love that you said using it as a tool.
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  Some people try to use it as a replacement.
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  If you're just putting something in and copying it and pasting it, you're not doing right.
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  You've got to implement yourself and prayer and God in the whole process.
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  people, let me just verbalize it.
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  Some people are...
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  that say AI is the demon is a demon in the machine and all this stuff.
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  It's a tool just like any other tool.
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  It can be redeemed or it can be skewed.
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  And the other thing with that is if you choose to use it, being more specific, not necessarily not specific in like giving it uh secure data.
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  No, don't ever do that.
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  Right.
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  You tell it your phone number, your security number.
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  You not know your first name.
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  Right.
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  But but giving it more being more specific, more context, the more the more information you give it and then
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  the one particular one that I use that I pay for and it gives me access to a whole bunch of them is I get to have a stream.
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  And so it starts to get to know my voice.
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  And so it starts to give me outputs that are in aligned with who I am and it's me and it's not the AI.
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  It's just, know, grammar and spelling and all that is not my forte.
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  I can talk to you all day long.
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  So it helps with those kinds of things.
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  Back to the context, wanting to make sure you give it enough detail.
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  If you don't give it enough detail, it's going to give you a very generic, bland answer.
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  And so yes, that back and forth conversation in detail and context.
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  Yeah.
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  And just for those who don't know, if you're not into AI very much, you can actually, if you have a video on YouTube, you can put that video into your chat bot, your AI and say,
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  identify the brand voice and write from this brand voice.
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  And it'll identify the way you talk as far as you use short sentences, big sentences, big words, small words, all that kind of fun stuff.
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  So Valerie, how can someone get in touch with you?
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  Well, uh, there's Well if they need help with mindset so the best way would be to go to Val cares calm forward slash links I hope it's links.
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  That's either link or links
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  We'll put it below this video just in case.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's links.
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  And on there, there's a link to uh some various free items that I have.
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  And also a link to my calendar, they can reach out if they are to the point where they want to explore coaching and they can schedule a call there.
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  Great.
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  And I've got a kind of tidbit here.
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  The diagnosis she found out that she may have is ADHD and a lot of people struggle with that.
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  So one of the things she and I is partnering up with is helping ADHD entrepreneurs.
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  And so if you go to Quick Brains Team, that could be Quick Brains Team or Quick Brains Steam, either way, we're okay with it.
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  You're gonna find that we have a challenge kicking out fairly soon.
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  And if you miss the challenge, that's okay.
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  We're gonna have a community.
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  We're gonna build out on that specifically to help.
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  those with an ADHD brain because God created our brain just like it's supposed to be.
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  Let's use it to the best ability the way God created us.
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  Val, give us one little tidbit as you finish up what's one thing you want to leave us with.
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  I I'm going to leave you with the same thing I left to another podcast recently.
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  asked about, because I'm big on words, words have meaning.
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  Scripture even tells us that, right?
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  Life and death are in the power of the time.
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  And there's a word that I hear Christians use a lot, especially when they're in a difficult uh situation.
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  So actually, as I'm thinking about it, I'm going to give you two.
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  So in this difficult situation, a lot of times we'll pray,
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  Oh, all I can do is just pray.
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  That is my pet peeve.
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  Get rid of the word just.
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  When we do that, we are minimizing who God is.
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  What we are getting to do is going into the throne room, thinking back to Esther, the throne room of the creator of the universe to present our request.
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  It's not a just.
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  This is the absolute.
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  best thing to do.
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  And to tag onto that, I will also add that a lot of times as Christians, we'll give our laundry list of the things that we want.
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  And then we say, but whatever your will, and we kind of get that little down tone and the shoulders go down and we get into that, that, that minimal thing instead of that abundance
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  thing.
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  And in a very difficult season back in 2019, God gave me a twist on a verse as a prayer.
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  And whenever I can share it, do.
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  And it's God, I trust and I ask you to do exceedingly abundantly beyond anything I can ask or imagine.
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  Now insert whatever the thing is, the person you're concerned about and praying for, the situation that you're dealing with, whatever, add that.
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  Now you're coming from a place of standing back and watching God.
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  You've reminded yourself who God is, right?
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  Trusting him.
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  And he, yeah, we have our ideas, but he's got even bigger, better ones.
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  And that just released the stress for me and puts me in a position of just watching and seeing what God's going to do.
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  Great.
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  Thank you for sharing those.
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  Those are very insightful.
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  I've loved getting to know you a little bit better and I look forward to working with you and helping a lot of people with some fun brains.
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  Yes.
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  Bye.