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Episode 241: Counterstrike (SG-1 10.07) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and forty one, talking Starget SG one mid
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cheer along with Maddie Brendan. What's doing boys here? We are, mate,
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just talking about Stargate again. Shit year, Thank god, because I
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mean we're doing the just stopped being to just that now, because yeah,
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it is, it is, you know what. And I thought, I'm
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at a desk at a radio station. I've seen you guys recording. The
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idea is like, oh, how you guys going. I hate I hate
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that ship. I hate that shit so bad. On a radio show,
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it's two or more people and they ask each other how they're going stop pretending
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like you have been the same room. Yeah, and we haven't caught up
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before we turn the microphones on. Yeah yeah, I mean you know,
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I'd like it organic where we literally just walk in separately with headphones on and
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hit record and then we go like that would be genuine feels a little acoustic,
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yeahel was just like no eye contact, no talking, we were just
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walking here and just start like that would be It's a little maybe yeah,
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yeah, it's a little engaged, a little spectromy Okay, well, I
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mean now that there's anything wrong with that, autistic studio. No acoustic,
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you gotta say, yeah, that's what you meant. Oh yeah, yeah,
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anyone's been listening anytime I've said acoustic in the last like three months,
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that's yeah, that's I think. I think my I think. I can't
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remember if I told you guys. When my kid was young, one of
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the teachers sort of he was loving the to strum the guitar, like you
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say acoustic, and Brendan's like, no, that's just my DNA he she
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said, like because he had some some kind of touching issues with sand and
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grass and ship like that. I don't know what they call it, sensory
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issues. Wow, maybe Anakin Skywalker was acoustic. Yeah, probably, And
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then like she was trying to tell us all the things that he does in
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class. Okay, yeah, he's different, I get it. But then
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the last thing she said was what else. Oh yeah, he hums a
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lot. That's my new one. Someone someone who hums. Let's just put
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it this way. He hums a lot. I'm not going to say the
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R word, but he hums a lot. Ever since COVID, I have
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trouble making eye contact with strangers, and I'm like, that's a little acoustic.
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Yeah, you started humming. Oh, I give him. I have
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a great hummer. Now. I tend to like, I like talk to
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people. It's like I'm looking like over their shoulder, like just to the
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left of them, like and just like yeah, because oh you guys,
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it's fine, eye contacts one of you. But yeah, I'm just like
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I don't make we have the home improvement neighbor system. Yeah, you and
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I. Yeah, we just each other's eyes. We don't see each other's
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mouth or well, so we can't tell each other. It's a safety features.
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You're still my mouth that much the entire podcast, I thought you've got
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to be like you. Well, we're back in the Milky Way galaxy because
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things are going to take a step up a little bit because we get an
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introduction to someone who's going to be around for at least the next little while.
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An actress that we spoken about before I randomly came across icon I think
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it was the other episode one hundred and sixty, and we mentioned the name
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Marina Backern and oh god, naming all these things that she'd been in,
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and all of a sudden, this is it's She's here count for at least
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the next thirteen episodes. That's it. Well, the official synopsis very short.
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Again, I don't know how official this one is, but I haven't
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got my DVD in front of me. I'm just going off for IMDb SG
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one. It's caught in the middle of a war after the Jafari us a
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powerful weapon to kill ten thousand or I followers. Thank you so much.
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Sorry, that's not bad. It's not bad. I mean it's super wordy.
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Are ones that have nothing to do with the actual episode. Yeah,
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asking you what's gonna happen? Oh? Will they get out in? Will
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cohenemur And this this is a Joe and Paul which was funny and directed by
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whereas it just there we get any mkita. But when it popped up Joe
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and Paul, it was an establishing shot of Schian Mountain and with the tunnel
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there, and it's written by John Paul and it was like your voiceover of
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I think Walter is like off Old activation or something, and we just come
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from another planet. And then it was like off World activation as the two
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famous guys for never getting off World were given their credit for the upcoming episode.
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See, I mean they're gonna have to they can't stay on Earth forever.
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And they've been doing that for a little while. I just know for
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seasons there, we knew that if we saw their name at the start of
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an episode, we weren't going far. Counter strike a ship that's another trust
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episode. But yeah, here we go. Andrea, she all grown up,
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and just be careful with your comments because she is still like six months
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old, so you know, true she identifies as an adult woman. Marina
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Bakron is not six ones Oh yeah that's true. That yeah, say Marina,
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don't say Area, say Marina. Yeah, anything we ever say about
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Andrea, of course we're mean in the actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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absolutely killing the blanks. So yeah, I had to laugh, like
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when you know, Bretech comes through and he's like, yeah, we're using
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this weapon. We've got them now, and then Old Laundry's like, we
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know SG one was there and Bay got a ship at this point he knew.
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He just send me quick text. Is til still honest? You know,
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appreciate all the billions of planets that are out there. You wouldn't You're
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not going to this one there right now. In fact, you wouldn't believe
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it sends a selfie of himself in the village. Look what I'm wearing.
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Look at this hood that I'm wearing because there's no other black people here,
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so I'm having to hide myself. Yeah. The only way they could have
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been more brutal is if because they mentioned this episode that Hebridan and Leangara have
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both fallen to the Ari. Hebridan was those the weird lizard looking guys from
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like Space Race and that episode on the where they're stuck on the planet with
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the with the Cerberus and Leanera is Jonas's homeworld. They gave in to the
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prey. Yeah, yes, they've gone al right, of course they did.
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So I feel like the only way this episode could have been more brutal
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was if you know that the wave that the Jafar Wi using is actually just
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used on Langara and Jonas had just died off screen because a week after two
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hundred, where they couldn't even have like some type of piss take reference to
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the fact that he was ever in the show. It's definitely they kill him
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off screen by wiping out his entire doesn't even say his name. She's like,
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Hebridan and Lengara have fallen to the a we can't reach any of our
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allies on those worlds, and Jonas hasn't gotten back. That's crazy. That's
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bad because I zoned out. Oh sorry, Sometimes when Carter talks, you
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know, because she's a woman, goes. I just wanted to say that
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because of how much jargon she has. One thing, you're like, she
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is mis exposition. So you know, she starts talking, it's going to
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be a lot of time. And she always p three x nineteen And she's
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kind of like Lisa Simpson in that way where you're like, okay, I'll
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just wait till she stops talking. Because she's a woman. There is this
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where it's good that you can't see each other's faces. His eyes, You're
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like, is he squinting or is he like you can see the eye twitch
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though, now there's an opportunity they missed for two hundred. Is given that
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O'Neill used to make so many Simpsons references. Imagine recreating the SG team as
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or something. She just said, Sam is Lisa. Yeah, yeah,
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that would have been interesting part of his movie. Pitch was doing an animated
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one because it would have been cheaper for the effects or something like that.
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He's like, you always go animated yeah, yeah, but she just she
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just went over that whole Jonas not even Jonas's planet, no Leangara and then
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says, and we can't reach any of that. Gara was the name of
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his country or the world. There was the new name they came up with,
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That's right, Yeah, when they So that's why I couldn't remember it.
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Yeah, yeah, because there's they had a home world and there was
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three distinct nations on the world. Remember we got to meet continent the three
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Yeah, we got to meet the three ambassadors. Yeah, there was like
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that annoying redheaded chick and then those other two do and that. Yeah,
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and that was when they said that they had in an effort to try and
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unify. I think it was Jonas's last episode before he before he left the
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beginning of season seven. Yeah, they renamed their world Langeras it was some
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ancient name, you know, to try and you know, bring unity between
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them all. Yeah. So yeah, they've gone all right. So and
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again that would have been a really nice thing to I feel like, you
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know, I if the show was made now, they would you know,
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get that they get Corn back, get Corky back, and just film a
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couple of little scenes of him like, you know, doing his own little
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underground thing like trying to fight the good fight or something like that. You
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could instill on a video link, like they send a camera careerut to his
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house and just film him in his basement guys blah blah blah blah blah,
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you know, and then turning it off like you don't even if they didn't
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want to bring ship or anything. You know, it's pretty hippie dude,
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yeah, with leather jacket and be like, yeah, man smoking in his
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backyard. Also editing the other day, I just came across like that full
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video where we play at the end of every podcast of him saying, you
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know, giving that the cameo that's full cameo who is at the Senates that
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I feel really bad that I've forgotten, but yeah, someone someone did that
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cameo for us. It was amazing, like a minute and a half two
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minutes and it's just class with the emphasis on the oooh and the cooper.
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I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. I see what
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you're doing. Get to the gate. Sorry podcast. That's what we should
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have added to. So we should have added to Satita when we were Cooper.
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We should have we should have added him going burn. Yeah, maybe
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that's where we come into it. While while they refuse to bring him into
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the show, we just get him to do a fresh cameo every month and
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we just insert him in scenes. Yeah, I've made something we could write.
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Yeah, we're going to cast you in an audio only s G one.
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I'm surprised after it was canceled. Probably someone hasn't written a book of
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you know, him running the underground on Lengoro while the Jonas Brothers camp rock
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obviously, Oh wow, I can't. Yeah, that's that's great. Like
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it's one thing to not bring him back, but to not mention like that
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would have been even more of an insult. So if they were going so
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far as not inviting back, reference him whatsoever, hard of references him allies
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and you imagine she would have we can't even we can't even contact any of
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our allies. And then you just hit cut the dann that's a shame,
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and he just moves on. I'm sorry, what was that move on?
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Allies? We have allies. Guy, that was part of our team for
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an entire as, like a whole year actually, like over three seasons when
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you think, because he came in like the second or third last episode of
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season five, all the way through season six, first episode of season seven,
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and then came back towards the end of season seven with that androgynist boy
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and chick Tokra googled chick whatever journey to the Center of the Earth. Yeah,
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and then that's it. No mention it to and we never see him
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again or hear about him, but we do talk about his planet. But
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yeah, and he's just an ally now, he's an ally. Yeah,
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he's an ally crazy crazy crazy crazy, crazy crazy one. Actually, one
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of the things they could have sent Jonas if they had ever filmed that thing,
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they could have sent him the hat Carter was wearing when they were on
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the planet at the start. You guys noticed that the little the little muffin
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man hat. Apparently Joseph Malot hated that. And is that why he put
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it her in it or no, he just he just like he wrote the
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episode and he saw the dailies and she's in the hat and he's like,
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I can't picture it. No, I was looking like all the you know
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who had not the floppy Daniel hat. No. Remember the end of the
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end of last season with that girl who pulled the sword from the stone.
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When he pulled the sword from the stone, she was wearing that weird kind
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of like muffin man puffy hat, chef's hat. Yeah, Sam's wearing that.
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Yeah, well one that reminds me of that. You have the episode
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on your phone legally? I do have it legally on my phone obviously.
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What are we talking here? Prime Video? Great people if they're on to
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sponsor this show, the MGM have their own streaming on Prime. Yeah,
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did you I want what's going to happen now that they're merging with was it
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WB or whatever? I didn't hear about that? Yeah, paramount Oh sorry?
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Yeah, oh sorry, you're talking Prime? Yeah, no paramounts on
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Prime? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because then that's going to bring in
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like Max as well and stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of
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weird amalgamations. I think only now the bubbles burst and people have realized we
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can't have four thousand streaming services for every different studio. Yeah, and every
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different IP Hello, that's like Matrix. We're going to release a Matrix streaming
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platform where it only only shows Matrix gear. It's going to cost you nine
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a month. Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous. So yeah, hopefully they'll
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so that means you're like Paramount plus and Max might like merge. Yeah,
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it will be one less streaming service, at least in the States. I
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feel like that would take years to ripple down to us. Jesus, that's
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lad Mark, this day, our daily bread. The darkness of your world
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has been lifted to his origins. Shine upon him. So they are deep
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undercover. Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, deep undercover from the neck
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DOWNE is Lisa Simpson. That's what Lisa wears on all those when they do
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s. Yeah, yeah, okay, I didn't even that's a shaker trying
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to pause it. Don't you hate that with screens where you try to pause
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it and then it brings up the pause and then you have to go back
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ten seconds. Yeah, anyway, and then you wait and then the pauses
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on the screen. But then after five secs it disappears and then your stuff,
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yeah, or all the all the tidle stuff comes up on the screen.
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See like prime video. Oh that's amazing. Yeah, it's like a
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little muffin. It's a chef. It's a blue chef hat almost like the
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hell were they going form. Yeah, so it reminds me of I don't
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think it's the same hat, but it reminds me of the hat that that
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girl that pulled the sword from the stone, right, and only like a
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small planet, I know, we you know, whenever we seem to go,
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you know, the gate's not too far away from the main village,
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the main village seems to be almost the only village. And because we've only
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got that one village set, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but even when
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we go to places like what Jonas's mob like and the fighting and the civil
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war planet and all that sort of stuff, it's like, oh, there's
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there's two factions of people on this planet. You know. I just thought
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about it before the idea of and they said, oh, they renamed the
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planets you know, a bit ancient because then it sort of brings everyone together.
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And I'm like, can you imagine? I mean, I know that
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we've about eight billion people on our planet, so we're far bigger than any
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of these places we seem to visit the show, Like if we just decided
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one day, hey, we're going to rename Earth. Let's all let's all
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agree on something like yeah, that would take centuries for that sort of ship
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to go down, like we we can't no one can agree on anything,
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and we're calling it LGBT. No, no, they're renaming it after Will
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Smith. Now it's Earth Welcome to Earth. Well there's less yeah, there'd
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be less argument. I want to go with. What do they call it
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a Pangaea. Let's be Pangaea. Oh yeah, I like Terror Australas.
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That's cool. That's Australia. Terror Australia Australia because Terror is Latin for Earth,
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I believe. Yeah, so like in Star Trek, the Earth is
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actually called terror. They call it terror in a lot of and then our
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son is called soul. All right, that seems well, that's the Solar
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System, so there's many souls sold as well, just Sol. But you
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get this planet and now are like, hey, there's no life forms left
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over, Like there was thousands of lifeforms on that planet. Literally we're in
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orbit and there's none, like wow, only thousands Like that just seems it
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seems so small. But you know, you go to in Star Wars and
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there's like there's one environment, you know, the entire planet. Here it's
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like there's one village per planet, like there's the size of what the move.
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Like the Jafar planets or the ones that are under control of the GULD
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have very small villages because they were kind of killing them, whereas the planets
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that didn't have a stargate or found their stargate later seemed to be the ones
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with huge populace. Yeah. I feel like my my head canon is any
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of the small Jafar, you know, run villages and stuff like that.
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That was all the stuff on the Aberdos cartoons. And then all the planets
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we see that are quite technology advanced, like Lingare and hebra Dan was others,
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and the Knocks and stuff, they were all from the download that we
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got from Jack with the Ancient Repository of Knowledge, because yeah, they were
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untouched like the who Narims people, the Tolant, you know, all these
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people that were untouched by the so they were allowed to progress and develop.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean you look at it's not a rule, but
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it's kind of, isn't it. Obviously you look at Langera and it's like,
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well, at one point they were under rule because that was how they
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buried. Their target came the quadriann Aquadria, and Aquadria was because of a
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gould stuff. Yes, so in the en was that the same planet?
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No, that wasn't Jonas's planet? Was it the Tokra? Well they found
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the Algeria was a different one. The three gun people, the sword people,
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they were the the balloon gud the gun balloon people. Weren't they no
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different? They were the tent people. Remember Jonas? Oh yeah, Jonas
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had sex with the girl in the cave. Guard really stepping into Daniel's shoes
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to the next level. Daniel had new glasses this episode. He's finally got
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his rectangular glasses, the old Harry Potter glasses. Finally. Geez. You
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know what's different about Jack that I noticed last week that I didn't mention is
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that Jack's now playing like Richard Dean Anderson is playing Jack. You know how
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I said, Michael Daniel Jackson was my favorite character of the first five seasons.
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When he comes back, it's just Michael Shanks playing Daniel Jackson. That's
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how I feel now after season eight. Whenever Jack, whenever Richard Dean Anderson
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comes back, Hey, I'm playing Jack O'Neill. He's not in that groove
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he was. That's how I feel when I watch him now as Jack.
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Yeah, okay, I when he's playing richdiness and more than he's playing Jack.
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Yeah. Yeah, kind of like what shank You know, we all
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have that feeling that Shanksy's changed Daniel Jackson into that way. Yeah, I
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mean I look at his character growth just in terms of I mean, obviously,
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the longer an actor is in a role, the more they can kind
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of take ownership of it and tweak it to their own sort of predlictions for
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lack of a better word, And obviously, yeah, Daniel's been through a
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lot from you know, season one to season eight. He's a lot more
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of a badass now and he's a lot more chill, and he's buff and
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all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it kind of tracks for me,
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yeah on just in my own head canon. Yeah, it's a bad
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way think about it. And I was sort of stuck on a couple of
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performances in this one. I guess first up, because it happens thirty seconds
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in when we first see Andra, and I think because I was so used
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to the to the young actress who was trying to speak like an adult and
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speak so properly, and the way that she structured her sentences and things,
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and it was everything was very meaningful. So and because I just it elevated
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how a child speaks, so it certainly stood out. Whereas I feel like
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back Tilk like doesn't use contractions and stuff like that. Yeah, Whereas it,
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Yeah, Ronnie Backroun comes in and I feel like she was just speaking
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as opposed. It wasn't like she was coming out and she is spreading the
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thing of all ri and like someone like like the child might have. But
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then I feel like as the scenes went on, she had a little bit
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more gravitas about it when she hugs Varla, when you see, oh,
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it's so good to see your mother. Was still very like awkward and formal,
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but you know, Whereas I did feel like there was a change between
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when she walks in and she's, you know, the r Siah to becoming
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adurate the daughter with her mother, who's, oh my god, I'm so
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glad that we got to see each other. They want to keep us apart
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and blah blah blah. Whereas Yeah, strangely enough, the scene where she
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should have had the most presence in front of a giant crowd, she probably
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had the least amount of that, And nothing against like her performance or efforts
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or anything like that. Maybe it was just you know, where she was
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shooting and she wasn't actually in front of extras for a lot of the shots
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or something like that, but it probably was dwarfed. Then when the new
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leader of the Jafar walk and I'm like, I feel like every Jafar were
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ever met that pivotal character. Yeah, I feel like every He's like a
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general in the US Army. Well, he played where he was. What's
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Claire Claire Danes who was in term three? I think he was. He
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was general something, Yeah, yeah, Robert Bruce Boster, Yeah he was.
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He was that, yeah, and so he was in three. He
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sounded like so when like Brayteks coming up, He's like, I don't have
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to take this from you, and I'm like, stop sounding like an army
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general. You're a Jafar, You're an ancient warrior. He was some of
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the worst casting ever because apparently he naturally has a very strong Southern accent.
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Correct, this was him putting on a Jafar accent. This was him trying
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and it just did not all like you get like Tilk's got that Braytech carries
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this sort of Yeah, he's got the worry away. You know, this
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guy's seen some shit, and like when he speaks, you listen to him.
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And then when you've got what was the guy that went Ara, he
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was better Lewis Gus. He's got gravitas and he's got that slow paced way
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of talking. And then everyone under them that's been like a Jafar that's working
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for a guld or something, they're just angry, like shoving staff weapons in
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your faces and stuff. But everyone who's actually had a bit of presence and
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some type of hierarchy has spoken the same. Now, okay, they don't
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all have to be the same, but I just felt like, and again
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not not any slight on his efforts. It just like, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, I'm sliding his efforts because like that was him trying to hide
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his Southern accent and you go straight away he's in American general. Yeah.
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But here's the thing is, you're talking about Louis Gasa Jr. With possibly
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one of my favorite line readings in the entire series of the show, with
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him going we shall see see they gave to attack this line. They gave
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him the exact same line, and he ruined it. This madness ruined it.
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Bro like you had the line do you even start? Do you even?
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But that would have been great because you imagine if that they would have
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say, look, this is a line that's been delivered by another Jafar leader.
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This is your moment for like a bit of a reference point for the
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audience to go hang on. We've also heard like that's and to compare it
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to and he just he wanted to get over spoken. But the other character
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in the room, that's very strange, didn't. He didn't even finish his
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line before we'll see that's a general laundry line. It's like you give it
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Ian McDermot, the bike plays Palpatine and it's like, okay, your line
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is good, and he comes You've crossed this. I didn't even think that
25:03
was possible. That's amazing. Is that how you wanted to George? Yeah,
25:08
it's exactly how I figure. Do it like that now, Hayden,
25:11
is your turn? I hate sand close enough? Well, losing Daylight probably
25:18
probably said said that light and then George gave his classic thing of I'll do
25:22
it again, but do it better, and that's what he got. He's
25:26
like, I guess that's better. Let's move on, good, good,
25:29
Good. Something I thought was really dark in this episode and they kind of
25:36
sort of breezed over it fairly quickly, and it took me back to that
25:40
episode we spoke about where like early on when Daniel shot up the printer thing
25:47
the tank in this moment like when Daniel is talking something I was one of
25:52
the Riot episodes anyway, when when they think Andrea has been killed, which
26:00
ye, you have to keep reminding yourself like she's a god watching the episode,
26:04
like you know, Adria is not dead, Like they're not getting introduced
26:07
Morain bakerin and to have one scene with really no dialogue and then kill her
26:14
off screen, it's never happening. So it was weird to have Vala kind
26:18
of in her feelings about the fact that kind of being glad but feeling guilty
26:22
that she's glad that Adria is dead because she didn't want be held responsible for
26:26
the slaughtering of of, you know, half the galaxy. But the thing
26:30
that got really dark to me is there's that one moment where where Varla said
26:33
she'd actually considered killing Adria in the womb, basically like she knew what Adria
26:37
was, she could have done something about her before she was born. And
26:41
I'm like, they just breezed over that so fucking quickly that Varla had been
26:45
thinking about, like killing this the child in her in her stomach, and
26:48
I'm like, makes sense. I mean, yeah, straight up, you
26:52
just abort. But I guess on the Auro planet that's not really an option.
26:59
But they're stared she could have fallen into the walking robe. They've got
27:02
to have the coat hangers. Surely I've got to hang their clothes somewhere in
27:06
a village. You could kick an old school, Yeah, kick her old
27:10
school, just get beaten by the Yeah. She could have said something about
27:12
the O and they would have just stoned her in the streets. Yeah,
27:15
well I was next to the person. They would have set her on fire
27:21
again for a third time and it wouldn't have taken Yeah, yeah that's true.
27:26
Yeah, she probably was immortal. Yeah, so I just thought that
27:29
was really dark that she had. Yeah. Ye, imagine if they had
27:33
have done like she did. Try and then she realizes that she's got some
27:37
kind of protection over it the whole. It turns out the crystal that Andrew
27:42
had been wearing, she was actually born with it, and then she had
27:45
a force field in the womb ship. Yeah, that was wild when she
27:51
first pops up again and they're on the ship and there was you know,
27:52
we were following three different and I get the Ora ship is massive, Yeah,
27:56
but we're following three different story is going on in the one ship and
28:00
then in one of them is just like just machine guns going off everywhere,
28:06
and then like it cuts to you know, Daniel walking around truly strangely.
28:11
Hey guys here there, huh okay, And I'm like, how is like
28:14
that not echoing something like how is how big is this place? Where it's
28:18
completely empty, The engines are off, the air cone's off, nothing's working,
28:21
and they all beamed in at the same point, so it had to
28:22
be walking distance from each other relatively quiet. But then we've also got Aria
28:27
in all of her godke abilities, she doesn't even know there's other people,
28:30
seemingly unless it's all part of some you know, plan that she's got going
28:33
that we don't really touch on. So she's seemingly not aware that there's other
28:37
people on the ship, which she is looking for them because she was able
28:41
to save everybody's life activating the shield, and she's like I just saved all
28:44
your lives. You're welcome. So she is kind of omnipotent. It is
28:48
a weird thing, but maybe it's only in maybe the the ari I like
28:52
her h speaking to her in her mind and only informing her of things that
28:56
are a direct threat to her. Like she seemed to know that the wave
29:02
at the start of the episode was coming, and that's why she kind of
29:04
whipped up into the to the prior and then sort of disappeared behind her curtain
29:11
while they all got vaporized. Okay, absolutely not. They're self sacrificial car
29:19
Carter steels his stick. Remember the sticks? Oh yeah, sitting there.
29:22
H of course, I mean that would be that would have been a different
29:25
prior, because what is she going to do with that? Yeah? I
29:27
thought it was weird. And then you just use it as a club basically
29:32
was an odd choice. I do love then Auro bridge though. That bridge
29:36
looks so cool with like the Auro version of the ancient chair circle circular.
29:44
Yeah, like up on the platform and all that. She has that emblem
29:45
on her chest and that's what the chair is, isn't it. Yeah?
29:49
Yeah, are oval with the two horns coming up the side like what the
29:53
dose I had as is like not a headdress but a shoulder dress. Yeah,
29:57
it's kind of like Atlantis, but yeah, yeah, no, I
30:00
like that that it's it's kind of ancient inspired because they're kind of, you
30:04
know, offshoots of the same sort of people. So yeah, it's like
30:11
the auro version of an ancient chair. But then like you know, Carter's
30:15
working on the you know, the little side, you know, bits of
30:19
technology, the little you know, displays and controls and all that kind of
30:22
stuff. And then apparently that that set only has three sides, so it
30:26
has the back and the two sides. There's there's no front to that set.
30:32
So when we actually cut to it and we see them in hyperspace,
30:36
that whole wall with the view screen on it is all c GI. Yeah,
30:41
because there's no there's no fourth wall to that set, which I thought
30:44
was interesting. I thought you were going to go for the other room that
30:47
was like xpin Inspy and they walk into Cerebro and it's just like a giant
30:51
bridge out like some kind of special panel that's in this giant sort of sphere
30:55
like room. Yeah, which is weird because that seemed to be like the
30:57
that's where you'll put your Sea four. Yeah, that's where that's where plane
31:02
Sea four goes. But it's like, well, if that's if that's the
31:03
power source, what's the big glowy ball of light in the middle of the
31:10
ship where that you see from the outside. Like that kind of feels like
31:12
that's the power source and the ship's built around it. But it's like,
31:15
well, no, there's this power core inside the ship. So it's yeah,
31:19
it's an odd one, very strange, but it's fun. I like
31:22
it. I just like the idea of the engineering is all the same,
31:25
the electronics and stuff. You know, when carters are like, oh,
31:26
you know, we're gonna go do this, she's like, I kind to
31:29
stay here and keep working on it. Like there's a panel very much looking
31:32
like every other panel we've ever seen, and then she just goes down,
31:34
rips the front of the cabinet off, and just starts going through the wires.
31:37
I'm like, even though it's a completely alien ship from a different galaxy
31:41
and it's made and inspired by these ancient race of beings, it's like,
31:45
yeah, all the computer still work the same. Yeahs. And to me
31:48
that kind of tracks because it's like, well, it's established that gua old
31:52
crystal technology is kind of a bastardized version of ancient crystal technology. And then
31:59
all I start is kind of an offshoot of ancient technology. So it's kind
32:02
of, you know, on the tier it's the original, but it's like
32:06
they're they're side by side. But then wold come you know, comes off
32:08
the the ancient stuff because apparently Milo malt Yea when when the it's was Ovaltine
32:20
versus Milo basically yea, when the Springs the southern mix of Springfield Shelbyville by
32:36
drink food what apparently when the I think when the episode came out or something
32:43
like that. I don't know whether it was ever a deleted scene or where
32:45
it was in the script, I don't know, but apparently Gate World said
32:49
Andrew was going to confirm that the stars that the or I use were the
32:54
original con like like world stars were stolen from that technology, you know,
33:01
like our gould have the staff weapons, yeah, the gold and the Jafar
33:07
and then but obviously you know it's gul technology that the Jafar are using.
33:10
Those were based on what we now see as the ore I staff weapons,
33:15
which is just the stick with the two little little prongs on it. But
33:19
I think that's kind of it's inferred anyway. You just kind of in your
33:22
headcan and you go, well, yeah, the Guld stole or the technology
33:25
from other races. So it's like anything you and we know that crystal technology
33:29
is based on ancient crystal technology, so it's like, yeah, anything that
33:32
remotely looks similar that we're seeing here or even though we're seeing it later,
33:37
it actually predates whatever the Gauld technology is. Yeah, and they and they
33:42
didn't kind of go back on their canon doing that, which which is a
33:45
little weird because it means that the you know, are technology has been stagnant
33:49
for like millennia, like they haven't improved, like you know, if really
33:52
they should be improving on things if it ain't broke down. So yeah,
33:57
I always like that, Well, they're not there anymore. They're ascended.
34:00
They're just giving their best plans to the the price. You know, that's
34:07
fair. The peak of your civilization. I think in this episode and actually
34:15
for the rest of the season, Varla would have been better and maybe even
34:21
Daniel as well. To plant themselves next to Andrea. There's no reason why
34:25
they couldn't just stay with her for the rest of the time. Well,
34:30
I do have a little snippet for you from the audio commentary, but it
34:34
is a potential spoiler for later in the season with the episode The Shroud.
34:38
So we can either put a pin in it and talk about it then,
34:42
or I can play it now and anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled can
34:45
skip forward. Well, let's just talk about from this episode because we can
34:50
play that then without any spoilers for anyone listening. But I just feel like
34:54
SGC should have at least come up with the plan and saying, hey,
35:00
let's try and plant Daniel and Varlet together. Because you can see like she
35:04
listens to Vala, yeah, area, she listens to her. She's like
35:08
they've had two conversations her whole life, and she actually kind of she kind
35:15
of gets through to her. And Daniel's there as well to kind of reinforce
35:19
that he could be like the stepdaddy. Yeah, yeah, my real dad
35:23
with whatever Adri was doing, maybe it was against Daniel, whoever. And
35:27
then Varla steps in and she's like, no, Adri, I just boom
35:31
just like sort of like throws her back a little bit, and it wasn't
35:35
even like, okay, now I'm going to stop listening to you forever.
35:37
It was very much like a child unable to control their emotions. Yeah,
35:42
and you know, I've got a two year old at the moment. It's
35:44
probably older in a sense than what Aduri is, and like, if I
35:47
say something she doesn't like, she'll whack me in thead like but then be
35:51
really sorry about it. But it's just like a natural. We're all animals.
35:52
We're just having to become civilized as we grow older. So I saw
35:57
that and actually liked that she did have that moment. But then like on
36:00
she's like still got those yeah, those parts where she's going to listen to
36:04
her mother, because clearly Varla made some type of impression on her in that
36:07
one conversation. Kids try to find their boundary. Yeah, there was a
36:13
little I'll talk a little bit about there was a little bit of a setup.
36:15
There's a line that Adria says when she's talking Daniel where she says,
36:17
we have plans for you in this episode. Oh yeah, that's right,
36:22
which is kind of foreshadowing some Yeah, okay, because I thought that was
36:25
going to be this episode. Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's later.
36:29
Joe Malotzi sort of in the audio commentary does say he originally had some
36:34
plans where it was going to be like a six episode arc of Daniel with
36:39
ther I would have been mad. But with this, with and You're gonna
36:45
You're gonna shoot on Michael Shanks of this, but with his deal for this
36:47
season of him being absent for like four episodes out of the season, which
36:51
is two, he's already done. I believe there's two more later on the
36:53
season still to come. I'm doing Macbeth. They weren't able to know he's
36:57
just he's just can sitting at home in his underwear, play with his kids,
37:00
because because remember Roseberry Lamb Shanks two point zero just just was born just
37:06
recently. You know what her name is? No no idea prison? What
37:09
prison? Oh god? What about well getting together if you want to send
37:20
it anymore? So those first child, Rosebery Lamb Shanks, second child prison
37:28
prison Shank. Yeah. But so with with him being unavailable for when they
37:32
would have needed to have done it, it kind of got down to like,
37:37
okay, when was it a six episode Ark? Maybe we'll do a
37:38
four episode Ark, maybe we do three, and then it just became a
37:42
one episode interesting. So yeah, when we when we get to I get
37:49
it. We've corrected you leave. Yes, we've approved it. Unfortunately,
37:52
he's getting in the way of like quite a pivotal arc that we're putting together,
37:55
and he's just on the other side of the desk game. Yeah,
37:59
it's on watching it anyways, you know, right around it stupid and you
38:07
know that you're the only OG character left. No, No, we're right
38:09
around it. That's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Don't worry about
38:15
it. Would like to. I don't know. Those scenes always annoy me
38:19
because I get that Varla's broken, but she could try a bit better.
38:27
There was a get across to her and stay with her. Don't abandon your
38:30
child, Like I know she's grown, but she's still a baby who has
38:36
alien information in her brain. It's like, I don't agree with the ideology
38:40
that you're spooking. I'm going to go to the SGC Jello with Till and
38:47
not enjoy the sights out of a window. I guess you have to remember
38:51
too, like when she gave birth to Adrew at the start of the season,
38:55
it was she was willing to stay, but it was Daniel who grabbed
38:59
her when he was getting bimmed out. He grabbed her and beamed there.
39:01
Yeah that's true, so I feel like, yeah, like Varala definitely wants
39:07
to spend time with her, but yeah, there's that weird sort of guilt
39:09
she has for what are has done, and Varala feels responsible for it because
39:15
obviously, you know, at this point, you know Varla's killed Andrew has
39:19
killed a lot of people. I think they did a pretty good Like I've
39:22
been married for a long time. The nagging does get does work after a
39:28
while. It's like, Adre, can you stop killing people like that?
39:31
And fine, I'll love to apologize to three star Caker, But what what
39:38
happens at the end in terms of do they get beamed out in the last
39:44
minute, Like how do Vala and Adri get separated at the end of this
39:45
episode, they get back in the ship and then they're on the go down
39:51
down. The Kara weapon is inspiring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
39:54
Well that's the thing. So if they hadn't sort of beamed out and
39:58
run away, then would have been killed because the Dakara super weapon hit the
40:04
Aurri ship that that Adrew was on, but she was protected by her personal
40:07
shield. Yeah, those the Jaafa that were on that ship all got vaporized.
40:13
Are you talking about the first one in the opening act? No,
40:17
the end of the episode? Yeah, yeah, because well the first remember
40:21
the first one, she did kind of die. Wasn't there a dialogue saying
40:24
she was protect was it? No? They all thought that she was dead
40:28
because there were no life signs on the planet. Yeah, exactly, but
40:31
we didn't see it on screen, which is what I was talking before,
40:34
which I was really annoying. Adrew has been protected by that pendant, so
40:37
you see it at the end. You see the Dakara wave hit her while
40:42
she's on the shop, I think right before she hits Dakara, and she's
40:45
got like a personal shield that protects her from that wave. So she never
40:47
she was never affected by that first wave that killed the ten thousand people on
40:52
that So how come they didn't detect her then? I'm assuming it hides her
40:54
life signs as well like that that that I think there was a line where
41:00
yeah, maybe it was as simple as that the pendant protects me, but
41:02
I just assumed her body did get vaporized and they just reincorporate whatever they do,
41:08
which incorporate into matter. To me, that was something that I thought
41:13
was a missed opportunity in that, like SG one was there watching the prior
41:19
give the speech, and then Adria comes out and then disappears behind the cave
41:23
behind the curtain just before they get beamed out, and then then we see
41:30
a bunch of SG teams in radiation suits like searching, like through the debris.
41:35
Did no one notice that Varala's sorry that Adrea's fancy gold dress wasn't in
41:39
a crumbled heap anywhere, because she was obviously wearing that when she showed up
41:45
again, but she didn't, she didn't costume change the whole time. So
41:49
yeah, so no, she survived. She was the only one to survive
41:51
on the planet. But obviously, yeah, like her life signs were masked
41:53
by I'm assuming the shield or just her priorness her aroness was able to mask
42:01
her her life signs or whatever. But yeah, at the end of the
42:06
episode, Yeah, if I guess if Varla hadn't beamed out, like,
42:08
Varla probably would have stayed. But if she hadn't been beamed out, she
42:10
would have been vaporized by the dakaraway. Yeah, I just feel like it's
42:13
a better I mean, it's probably a boring storyline if you're a writer,
42:19
because that's kind of it would get exhausted pretty quickly. But in terms of
42:22
tactically from a military point of view, be like, yeah, I could
42:28
easily insert two insurgents at the top, especially when they write in that line
42:31
that Adria like hugs Vala is like, and I'm going to make sure that
42:36
we are never separated again. It's like you've got an in there. She
42:38
wants you there. It doesn't unless, again it's some long con. You
42:43
don't have to convince her that you're on your side. They shut up in
42:46
this episode though, that like Varla can read I keep doing that that Adria
42:51
can read minds because remember she tries to read Daniel's mind and she can't because
42:55
he was an x ascended. But then she's able to just can wake up
43:00
that dead Jafar and read his mind and get all the information that she needs.
43:05
So I mean like saying Varala and Daniel would be the perfect ones to
43:07
go in there, because yeah, she could and Daniel, So is that
43:13
what were I didn't realize that's how we were supposed to take Like the reading
43:16
of the mind thing like because like you, it's not like yeah, me
43:21
neither. Like the fact that he spoke it. It's not like she was
43:22
holding him up and then just looking and he just drops and she's like hmm
43:25
the kara like the fact that she's there just like strangling the life out of
43:30
him. He's like, and then she lets him go because at the end
43:34
of the episode when that weapon gets dusted, and I was like, all
43:37
because of that one piece far you blame yourself. You already died, mate,
43:43
Like you could have just died again, what you think she was gonna
43:45
let you live Like you're a soldier. Okay, you're now working for better
43:50
people, but make take the l like do a samurai for once and just
43:54
stick yourself with the sword, your piece of shit now the greatest weapon in
43:58
the galaxy. He was already dead, mate, Again she put him back
44:01
to life, but like, she's not cow off himself. He's floating in
44:07
the air by a god or she's killing him. Continue I don't think she
44:14
is, because she says to Daniel, you have a strong mind. Daniel
44:16
doesn't have a strong body. He's a weak half human with all he's compared
44:22
to it, compared to a god's buff But she wasn't torturing them. She
44:29
was probing his mind, and she couldn't get the information in the same way,
44:32
and Replicata couldn't probe Daniel's mind to get the information that she needed when
44:37
he tricked her about the candlelightes fiabull shit. Andria couldn't probe his mind because
44:42
it was protected by the ancients to protect the ancient knowledge that he has.
44:45
Because the plot point is supposed to be, like the stuff that Joe talked
44:50
about is part of the plot point, is Daniel still actually retains all the
44:54
knowledge he had as an ancient, it's just being blocked from him by the
44:58
ancients when they seen him back in human form. So that Adria wasn't torturing
45:04
that guy. She was probing his mind because she probed Daniel's mind first,
45:07
just to to what you just said, though, like I think he has
45:12
the memories of when he was ascended, not the knowledge, because you know
45:15
that the human brain can't hold the knowledge of the ancients like Jack and that
45:20
well that kid who is that's dying, and that's a repository versus you know,
45:24
an actual like someone who actually ascended him. Was ascended being, and
45:28
that's what I mean, like I have sent back, I don't, I
45:30
don't. I want to kind of clarify the two different things, right,
45:34
Yeah, that he doesn't have the entire knowledge, but it's probably just his
45:37
memory. Yeah, his knowledge of the time when he was an ancient.
45:42
Yeah. Yeah, but yees. So I took that scene as Adria killed
45:46
all the Jafar, so they were no good to her. She's not going
45:50
to hurt Vala. She lifts Daniel up, probes his mind, can't get
45:54
the information she needs about the weapon, says, your mind is very strong
46:00
him down. Yeah, you know, re reanimates a dead Jafar. Then
46:05
she wasn't probing. She wasn't torturing him with pain, she was probing his
46:07
mind. Yeah. I just thought it gave up the information. I thought
46:12
it was like Darth Vader choke. Yeah, that's I'm not saying something Daniel's
46:15
going to resist a force choke that a Jafar soldier isn't. No, that's
46:21
I'm not saying it's something she can't do, something that she wasn't doing.
46:23
I'm just I just didn't I think the I think as a directing or a
46:29
writing thing or whatever. If she's just holding him up and you see him
46:32
physically it looks like the life is being choked from him, and then she
46:37
drops him and goes Dakara. That tells me she read his mind as opposed
46:40
to her just looking at him like come on. And then you see his
46:45
lips move and him saying God because he's being good as it physically looks it
46:50
looks like he's being strangled. So I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just
46:52
saying I didn't take it like that to then for the rest of the series
46:55
go oh, she can read. If she had done a little head tilt
46:59
and gone takara and then just dropped it, just snap his neck, yeah
47:04
that would have been great. But yeah, I just the context of the
47:07
whole scene is that there's no way Daniel could resist physical torture more than a
47:13
soldier. I think he's got a strangling. He's still though, man,
47:19
you know what he had to go through. So do you I'll talk you
47:22
about Daniel. So do you think Daniel Jackson could have gone through a lot
47:25
of Cosby effect better than the stuff tell So you're saying you're saying that Daniel
47:30
could could withstand more torture than til could. I would never say that,
47:35
but some can. Definitely they're the same that they're all the same, literally
47:45
all the same because they're the same species. They're literally all the same speciesiest.
47:51
Absolutely, you know who else? Said? You know who else?
47:58
Do you know? You said the writer of this episode. In this particular
48:02
episode, when I originally pitched it, it was actually Ball who was behind
48:07
this use of the weapon. Essentially, he was using this weapon to wipe
48:10
out tell me to wipe out the I O Ryan had nose, you know,
48:15
without without any compulsion or concern for the makes sense. And then we
48:20
discussed it and Ron pitched out the idea that and at the end of the
48:24
day, actually I think it makes it more effective and more dramatic story.
48:29
Although to be perfectly honest, sometimes I find theafa sort of inner politics make
48:35
for very I guess, uh, kind of very taxing. Uh you know,
48:38
not only writing but viewing. Yeah, they were better I think as
48:44
a B plot than as an a story. Hmmm. So despite saying my
48:50
boss changed it, and I totally agree with him, it's ship. Yeah,
48:54
that's basically what he said in the most tactful wipe well he's recording audio.
49:00
Conry Cooper is in the next room, like like like a producer to
49:04
the glass, listening, looking like Ben Siller and Happy Gilmore just like yeah,
49:07
not wearing earphones though, just reading his lips because Roll Cooper doesn't wear
49:12
earphone. Your grandma, you know landscaping? Oh, you know, like
49:20
being a writer. Now you're a caterer. Yeah, you were one of
49:23
the gas guys. We're all family, and no one's more important than anyone
49:28
else, even though I'm the executive producer and creator. But you now work
49:32
as a gaffer. They're very important. Don't get me wrong, They're very
49:36
important. You're washing dishes. Yeah, Grandma my world, now Cooper's world.
49:45
That's something that always sort of gave me a little bit of a like
49:49
a It's always made me sort of step back a bit. Is if you
49:51
watch the closing credits of any episode of Sex and the City, the pyroll
49:55
chick gets her own credit. I don't think I've ever seen that before in
50:00
any other like show, Like if you I'm sure if you watched the end
50:04
credits of Stargate, there's not gonna be payroll Janine something or other, you
50:07
know what I mean. Like, yeah, yeah, such a weird thing.
50:10
Even in films, I've never seen like payroll. Individually speaking, I
50:14
dare say the cast members of Sex and the City were getting paid. Not
50:19
so like you need someone that's that's important job. They they need one person
50:22
dedicated solely the power. I mean, let's be Friends were getting a million
50:27
dollars an episode by the end stupid money. I saw an interview with like
50:30
an old interview, but it was an interview with Seinfeld, and the guy
50:34
was talking about like, hey, by the end of season nine and everyone
50:37
loved it, you could have you offered to come back, And I heard
50:38
you could have got paid one hundred million dollars And he's like, yeah,
50:40
yeah, no I could actually that. Well, you guys, actually no,
50:43
I could have got more, he said, I know that I could
50:45
have got more. I offered more. He's but you know, we as
50:47
a you know, as a team crew, we had such a great,
50:52
you know, a rapport with our audience that we had too much love for
50:55
the show and what they thought of the show to risk it going to ship
51:00
in the tenth season. So he just turned down. I mean he's,
51:02
well, he's doing it right, And like Larry David had left by that
51:06
point, so like Jerry Seinfeld was like running the show seasons it was the
51:12
last season. Well, a lot of people hate those last Yeah, he
51:15
was burnt out, and I think he knew that there was a little bit
51:17
of a quality drop. Yeah, and didn't. Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld has
51:22
always been like, leave them wanting more, don't don't run into the ground
51:25
where people hate him. Just yeah, genius. He left number one genus.
51:30
Yeah, wasn't there a thing where like when the finale aired, other
51:35
TV stations just didn't air anything opposite it, like like a closed door or
51:42
something like that. They play like, I don't know airport security. Yeah,
51:58
but yeah, I mean as far as me and my rewatch, because
52:00
I've never really rewatched seasons nine and ten to think that, Okay, we're
52:04
here, We've finally got the RSI in her. I guess we can assume
52:07
fully established form now that she's final form, and then you know, we've
52:13
got the Dakara weapon. It's now could put. It did absolutely nothing to
52:17
the Aura, nothing what they thought it was going to do. It killed
52:20
some of their followers, which I did actually love that. Okay, the
52:23
Laundry and Bretech scenes. I love that. Like we said the other week
52:28
that at Bridges said that the boring one in the Woods is his favorite because
52:32
he actually got something to do for once, whereas I thought, well only
52:36
here, like last week you were the Wizard of Oz, sure, but
52:37
like this one, you know, you're having to play into that, into
52:42
the politics of the Ja'far, but also how they reflect to and the relationship
52:46
with people of Earth, and how both of you and your alliance plays a
52:50
great role in the defense of the galaxy and played a role in taking over
52:54
the former oppressors. And now you've got new ones. Like, that's a
52:58
lot of interesting stuff to play around with, and I'm like, you've actually
53:00
gotten something to do this week. But then I love that at the moment
53:04
where he talks to the American General, you know, cosplaying as a Jafar,
53:07
saying because we didn't know what it was going to do, He's like,
53:09
interesting though, that you tested it only on a world that didn't have
53:14
a Jafar on it, Like, it's so amazing that you didn't want to
53:16
if you didn't know what it was going to do, just throw it into
53:17
a Jafar world, because you'd want to free your own people, but you
53:21
did it to someone else and oh what you've you've killed ten thousand people.
53:23
Wow, it's amazing yourself. That's that's some This is some good stuff.
53:28
Yeah. The only the only bit I didn't like of that was when they
53:30
went a bit too heavy handed on the Sun sou versus Doctor Phil because there
53:36
was the scene with me. I didn't mind that, well, I said,
53:38
that's doctor Phil. The fact that it was back to back I found
53:43
like weird timing. I think at the end of the episode, if he
53:45
would have said was doctor Phil, I'd be like it turns out because because
53:50
that scene was actually a feller that was added after the fact that they were
53:52
short. So yeah, I didn't mind Cam and Tilk talking about it.
53:57
And I wouldn't have minded that scene if it was later in the episode,
54:00
but when they filmed it all they were short, so they went back and
54:04
just filmed that scene with Laundry and Walter in the corridor where he then does
54:08
quote doctor Phil, and I was like, Ah, it's too close together
54:12
because it makes it seem like Lawncey's just walking around quoting doctor Phil every time,
54:16
you like. And I didn't think that I would ever her husband is
54:20
addicted to pornography. Can have sex with your dog? You can't do it
54:25
anymore. What I didn't realize is that I would ever have the need to
54:29
quote a happy Gilmore reference twice in a Stargate podcast. But that moment,
54:35
okay, great that he goes, no one's Doctor Phil. But then when
54:37
he walks out of the shot and it's just on Walter and then he's like,
54:42
once laundry is far enough away and he feels safe, the facial acting
54:49
that Walter has got going on, just like let the eyes go up,
54:52
and he's kind of like that bloke. He's kind of like happy gilm after
54:54
talking about weird Governor shake All and just like walks away off screen because he's
54:58
like, here's this general he's running in super secret base. He's like,
55:01
yeah, it's going around quoting Doctor Phil, and Waltz's like, okay,
55:05
sure, sir, whoa working? It turns out he's like, laundry is
55:10
unavailable between like two and three every day watching Doctor Phil. They play Doctor
55:16
Phil themes. We're on You're kicking and flopping like a fish. She's on
55:28
me like a duck on a gum bug. I think I'd be madder in
55:30
a wet hen myself. You got the dumb bird's hitting on the shoulder.
55:35
I feel like I'm picking low hanging fruit here. If you'll just line him
55:37
up like crows on a clothes line, she's just cute as a speckle pup
55:43
fish or cut bake. Buddy. Did somebody slip up and ride stupid on
55:45
my forehead? I'm a we're don go down here and have a donkey barbecue,
55:51
and I'm gonna furnish the ass. What thought you can put a lipstick
55:54
on a pig, but it's still a pig. It's like nailing jello to
55:58
the wall. Just gonna but can of what pass on you? And I'm
56:02
just gonna call a spade a damn shuffle. If this is an't my first
56:05
rodeo, I promise you, how's that working for you? How's it working
56:08
for you? I didn't come out on a load of turnips. You can't
56:12
change what you don't acknowledge. No matter how glad you make a pancake,
56:15
it's got two sides. You want to be right or you won't be happy.
56:20
If there is somebody in this audience who doesn't think this is wrong,
56:23
then somewhere there is a village missing their idiots. Tuesday, April late.
56:32
I never realized until next because it's been a long time since I seen anything
56:36
Doctor Phil that ted Lesso was actually based on Doctor Phild. That's incredible.
56:38
Yeah. Wow. The other thing I remember, like my mom used to
56:42
watch Doctor Field at the time, and then one says up to it like
56:44
kids, you know, when they're really young, when they bought you and
56:46
he has you know what you do and my mom's watching it and she has,
56:52
you bought them back and he goes, never bought your kids back,
56:57
and my mom just went, huh, picked up her moat off, never
57:00
watched it again. Attack, it's because you were there, Because brother,
57:07
you weren't there. She would have been like, I got it right.
57:09
Whatever. Yeah, well brother brother, brother Lincoln obviously been on the pot
57:14
a bunch of times that she She still tells that story even after the Field
57:16
thing is that he was what he bit her, so she picked up his
57:19
hand and bit him on the finger back and he never bit her again.
57:22
Yeah, that is definitely one way to do it. Yeah, I've tried
57:24
it with one of my fortit. You're disgusting. I'm going to kill you
57:29
give me two hundred dollars. That's my favorite Doctor Phil ever, great outtakes.
57:37
It's just like having laundry, just like finish that scene on a different
57:39
quote. You just have like a blue for real of three or four minutes.
57:43
It's just that there's a pancake still has two sides. And what I
57:50
you know, I never knew if I liked Landry. I still can't figure
57:53
it out. But this episode he was too disrespectful to Tech my tape brak
57:59
tag. It's unacceptable. Unacceptable, even if it is like because he walks
58:04
in, I assume they've met before, but he walks in through the gate
58:08
and it was just like Landry's telling him what to do. It's like,
58:13
this is break Tack. You don't talk to break Tack like that. Like,
58:17
even despite despite the Doctor Phil stuff like, which is hilarious, you
58:22
don't talk to break Take. That came to be. Yeah, you know,
58:30
given the Breaktack wasn't down for this whole mission anyway, like he was,
58:32
he was opposing it. It's like, just calm down, mate,
58:37
Like Breaktech's here to help. Breaktechs always here to help. He's here to
58:39
help, and he knows more than you. He's actually doing you a favor,
58:44
your presence. He's bloodkin to all the fact that he stood up against
58:47
the Jafar in that room just to support Landry on behalf of everyone that's like
58:52
half the galaxy. He didn't deserve it. And he's like, oh,
58:54
well, you know that my people were there and the weapon blah blah,
58:57
this happened and all of a sudden ships are blown up. Well, your
59:00
people are on the r ship coincidence. And then like Laundry doesn't even have
59:05
a second, and Braytak just steps up. He's like, you dare suggest
59:08
a towery would have anything to do with this. I'm like, dude,
59:10
you're not a part of the tow re, but yeah, good on you
59:14
for standing up for our boys against your boys. And it brings back memories
59:17
of like we'll cross that bridge when you come to there is no bridge,
59:22
Like he hated the Tari and then he learned to respect. And then that's
59:28
the thing that Landry didn't see. And he's just say it's the old guys,
59:34
old mate, Like it's not Tilg's old mate that drinks Fosters. It's
59:37
not Yeah, I can't think of any time over the last season and a
59:43
half where Landry and Braytack have been in a scene together, I feel like
59:49
they've been in like briefings and stuff, But yeah, this one on one
59:52
was definitely not This is definitely the first one was like, yeah, now
59:58
the tig's not here, I can just talk to this guy, old bloken
1:00:00
robes this doctor Phil want to be. That's what he's probably threatened because,
1:00:07
like I imagine that Break wears nothing under the robe, and maybe as he's
1:00:14
come through the stargate it's just been a little bit sheer and has just seen
1:00:17
a silhouette that he was threatened by because you know, you know, some
1:00:22
hanging balls and he's old, so he's a couple of basic instinct moments in
1:00:28
the briefing room, you know, like like movie take off your take off
1:00:32
your bra if you like. And he's just ball bag, like you know,
1:00:36
old, old, old man. Balls are pendulous enough taxs like one
1:00:39
hundred and fifty pendulous those fifty years a wearing that metallic you've got to be
1:00:46
gone commanded. That's why the robe goes to the floor, because that's how
1:00:51
his balls are hanging. Yeah, that's right, And no one was that's
1:00:57
why he wanted to get rid of the gold so he didn't have to wear
1:00:59
this chain mar he could just wear dresses forever. He tucks them up into
1:01:02
his pouch just get they get too low. He just brings them up,
1:01:07
just fills and just tucks them in. And then he goes to card and
1:01:10
goes, guess what my reproductive organs are on the inside. What are you
1:01:15
gonna do about it? It ship, he's just wearing. He's wearing a
1:01:34
nappy man out of skin, out of nutskin. By the time, by
1:01:39
the time he like puts his balls into his pouch, he's a little nappy
1:01:44
over the front. Maybe that's what those hats are. He is the older
1:01:47
fuzz nut sacks. You know how the like the Native Indian American Indian scout
1:01:53
people. Yeah, these guys scout their nuts and wear and then the different
1:01:58
in respec Yeah, ceremony and stuff. It's not are they bronze it,
1:02:05
you know how like people all like bronze umbilical cords or bronze kids like booties
1:02:09
and stuff like that. Yeah, oh yeah. There was something in there
1:02:15
where Bratac said that Varla displays the wisdom of a seasoned warrior right at the
1:02:21
end, and then they go, oh, yeah, that's because she's a
1:02:22
mother, Daniel says, because he's a mother. Yeah, but she kind
1:02:25
of is a seasoned warrior, isn't she wasn't she? We don't even know
1:02:29
how long she was taken over by go like she's seen something. She was
1:02:34
managed to take down a cold warrior and wear his outfit. Yeah, when
1:02:37
we first meet hers, she's bad ass because she's a mother. Well,
1:02:40
it was obviously a call back to all the guilt that she was feeling earlier
1:02:43
on in the conversations that they had about, you know, her feeling guilty
1:02:45
about what Andrew was doing and all that kind of things. It was just
1:02:49
a writing thing. But no, I agree, she's definitely a seasoned warrior.
1:02:52
Actually, something we didn't because I was just like Daniel up that last
1:02:57
line. There was no one else here talking yeah all back. All it
1:03:07
needed was the poignant piano from last week. Something I did was interesting too,
1:03:12
is only in this episode we find out, like Daniel, like Varal
1:03:19
was only just found out about Chara mm hmm, which I thought was interesting.
1:03:22
I really loved that scene. Yeah, Like that was some of the
1:03:25
best writing and best Daniel Jackson we've had for Yeah, it's something you assume
1:03:30
that would be a conversation they would have had off screen a long time ago.
1:03:35
Yeah, So it does feel weird to be this late, but obviously
1:03:37
it's really poignant given the situation, and nice to know that he and it
1:03:42
still remembers it because like when she died and he just went on an absolutely
1:03:47
and yeah, he's just trying to numb the pain him Vegas and now years
1:03:57
later just like oh, I think a mother, he's like mothers I was
1:04:02
married. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the other thing I was going to
1:04:06
say, is Daniel says I can relate to you because of what happened with
1:04:11
Share. But I thought he was going to say, I can relate to
1:04:14
you because my step my step son was a Hassis like your child is.
1:04:19
Basically yeah, but evil haisis. So if you think about hasisis never did
1:04:27
anything bad. I think what what Varla is guilty about? Is she?
1:04:31
But he's that Hasius is lucky that he had Oma Dessala. Yes, if
1:04:36
he had just been one his own, he would have been well originally,
1:04:40
like he would have become a Pophicer's new host. Yeah, at a certain
1:04:43
point. I think that's what it is. Is Varla is feeling guilty for
1:04:46
all the lives that Area has taken, and she feels responsible in the same
1:04:50
way Daniel felt responsible and felt guilty for all the lives that Amanett took while
1:04:55
in SHARE's body. Yeah, so I think that's where he's he's relating to
1:04:59
her about that. But yeah, you're right, if if if the Haar
1:05:02
thesis had not been saved, and you know, APO office would have made
1:05:06
him his new host and then would have and Danie would have felt even more
1:05:12
responsible there. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point. But
1:05:14
yeah, I just liked that both of those concepts, Like you didn't really
1:05:17
think about this. It's like you said, it's Cooper just rehashing old storylines
1:05:21
over and over and over again. And I've never actually drawn the comparison between
1:05:26
the Orsi and the haarcisis. But yeah, essentially it's the same thing.
1:05:29
Yeah, I was just thinking about it the other night. Yeah, No,
1:05:30
that's interesting when I was watching it. All right, let's getting the
1:05:33
Gates episode two hundred and forty one back to the old Pegasus galaxy next week.
1:05:41
I mean, we had a fallen weird episode last week, What am
1:05:44
I in for next week? And then more We're Mate, We're thank you,
1:05:47
I'm glad Brennan was one to deliver me that new yeah again more of
1:05:51
the time. Never have too much weird, Get into the geek, get
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