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Episode 31 | Monday Night Rewind | Bri Brady | Sean Sprague · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  What's up race fans, It's Monday and it is time for the Monday
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  Night Rewind Live on top of Racing Media presented by ELH
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  Detailing and Federated Auto Parts.
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  This is the interview show, the digital scrapbook for Michiana
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  Motorsports. As we like to say tonight,
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  another couple of great guests. Once again we have the sea
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  Champion of the front wheel drives from the Galesburg
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  Speedway. Bree Brady joins us at 7:05 and
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  at 7:45 former Corgan Oil and Springport announced.
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  And now the tri-state Sprint's announcer, Sean Sprague joins us
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  at 745 SA. Couple of great conversations
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  ahead of us, but I am Buju and I'm joined as always by the man
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  in the top row himself, Lewis Knope.
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  How are you doing tonight? Hey, we're while we're getting
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  through the day just to I guess I'll get right away that, you
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  know, we lost, as you know, and then people on my friends list
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  know that, you know, we lost one of our dogs today.
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  So if I look emotional or look like a hot wreck, it looks like
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  I went through AC feature myself.
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  So or street stock, really long St. stock feature.
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  I don't know, maybe that qualifies too.
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  But but yeah. So other than that, you know,
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  you you push through and and you do what you got to do, right.
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  And so we have another awesome lineup of guests.
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  I'm so excited to have Bri on. You know, I talked with her
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  yesterday at Corgan Oil and obviously I got to see her a
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  couple times at Galesburg this year.
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  She didn't really raise Kalamazoo this year.
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  So anytime I got over to Galesburg, I was like, it was
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  also, it was always awesome to check in with them and see how
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  they're doing. So I'm excited for that.
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  But how about you? I know you got a heat win over
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  the weekend and then you mess it up in the future, but did you
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  know you get your wreck in the heats and you do well in the
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  feature? That's how it's supposed to go.
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  Yeah, well, I was going fast in the feature until I wrecked, so
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  I still feel okay about it. Yeah, got a heat win, that was
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  nice. South Bend Showdown, only the
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  second time I've been out this year.
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  The first time was also South Bend on July 4th and I didn't
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  even get to start those races. So yeah, it was nice to be able
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  to pick up a heat wind in South Bend all the first three
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  sessions day, the first two practice sessions and the heat
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  race. I went out and was just super
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  slow for the 1st 34 laps and then figured out what I was
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  doing and picked it up again. But yeah, always nice to be home
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  and it was nice to be in Victory Lane.
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  We talk on this show about heat races a lot and what they mean,
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  and let me tell you, I don't want to get rid of heat raises
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  now because that one on Saturday felt really nice.
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  Well, and I and that's and that's always kind of like the
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  the thing, right? Like, you know, the heat races,
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  you know, gives a chance for those who win a race who and
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  maybe many cases won't, right. Or, or, or when you get to the
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  feature and you see all the names in there, it's like, man,
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  how many people don't need to crash to have a chance, right?
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  And if you're going like I need the whole field to crash but me,
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  you know, then it's kind of right.
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  But you know, you still go out and you compete because you
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  never know, right? And you just never know.
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  Weird stuff does happen, pile up in turn 1.
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  Before you know it, your last car standing and you win, but
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  especially on the quarter miles, right?
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  Yeah, I mean, anything could happen, you know, at, you know,
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  we'll have Brie on here shortly. And at Galesburg.
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  Great. Go off the road, go off the
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  road, don't hit the tree, but go off the road a little bit,
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  right. Don't hit the Billboard.
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  So, you know, just just enough to get off the road and go up
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  the embankment. But but yeah, so you know, I, I
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  didn't, I'll be honest, obviously I was super busy with
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  Kalamazoo on on Saturday that I didn't see a whole lot.
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  Someone asked me like, how did, hey, have you heard what's going
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  on down there? I'm like, I don't pay attention
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  to what goes on at South Bend. So I'm like, I don't have, I
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  don't have reason to other than, you know, those who I pay
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  attention to closely. But obviously Charlie Hannah,
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  you know, got his win. So, you know, I'm excited for
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  that, you know, to get the Street Stock win.
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  And I feel like, and I could be wrong, but I feel like that's
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  his first St. Sock feature win with with since
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  he left late. Models, right, Yeah, yeah,
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  since. He left their.
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  Models, I think and. So he's been close, you know,
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  he's definitely been close over at New Paris a couple times.
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  And so so I was really excited to see him do that.
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  I think only a second win since his wreck that he had itself
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  then. OK.
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  Yeah, yeah, might be, Yep, 'cause I don't know that he's
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  gotten something at Plymouth or anything.
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  I don't think he got it there. So he's been at St.
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  Stock quite a few years now once he's stopped racing Outlaws,
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  but. But you might be right that it's
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  his second since that moment, so.
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  A couple, a couple close ones this year.
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  A couple were, Yeah, he put on a really good show and almost got
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  1. So yeah, it was, it was really
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  cool to see Charlie win one. It was a messy feature.
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  A lot of stuff got tore up. But it's not like Charlie just
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  kind of, it didn't just fall on his lap.
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  He was in the fast heat. He was a fast car all day with
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  that little 6 cylinder. So I've said it on my show, I've
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  said it on Facebook. But yeah, Congrats to Charlie
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  because it was awesome. Yeah.
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  And and to do it at a place that obviously there's a lot of
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  connection with the family too, right?
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  You know, I mean, they're obviously the Hannahs are
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  ingrained in a lot of places. But you know, obviously what
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  Doug did at a lot of tracks in the area, South Bend, one of
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  those places that he did a lot of a lot of damage to in terms
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  of getting victories and so. And flying and flying out of the
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  race. Yeah, flying into Turn 4, right.
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  And all the things. So, so, yeah.
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  So that, you know, I know congratulations certainly to you
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  on that. Obviously the feature didn't go
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  as planned, but you got to be at a place that I know you love a
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  lot, right. And so that's all that matters.
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  And I had. Fun so.
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  Yeah. So one thing that I do want to,
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  I was asked to pass on a message and so I'm going to do that and
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  I hope people can help me pass on this message for us.
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  But as you know, Boozoo, obviously there's been lots of
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  rumors for a long time in a lot of places about a lot of places.
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  You know, from Thunderbird to Kalamazoo to South Bend to
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  Plymouth to, I mean, you name it, rumors everywhere, right?
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  But one thing that we do want to address, I've been asked to help
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  address is that apparently the new rumor of the day is that
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  Super Shoe is cancelled. And I can promise you, not only
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  is Super Shoe not cancelled, it is full steam head.
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  In fact, they are painting lines this week for the campsites.
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  We are almost full at capacity. There are 30 left that are first
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  come, first served that must be paid for in person on Super Shoe
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  weekend. But we are at record numbers in
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  terms of campsites that have been sold.
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  And so they have 30 more that are available, but they're first
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  come, first served. But Super Shoe is not cancelled.
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  And spoiler alert, Kalamazoo Speedway as of this moment in
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  time is not and has not been sold.
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  And so there's a a lot of people and we know where some of them
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  are coming from and some of them might even be watching right
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  now. I hope they are that they can
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  learn that they're rumors are doing more damage than than
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  help. And we have a lot of people who
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  are working really hard behind the scenes right now for super
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  shoe. And when I was asked, I'm like,
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  I'm emotionally dysregulated enough for this anyways, but but
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  just stop. You know that I know, you know,
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  we have Brie Brady coming on, obviously Galesburg.
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  You know, lots of people have talks about Galesburg too.
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  And it's like just knock it off, right?
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  You know you're not helping when you're spreading rumors that you
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  have no facts. I promise you when Kalamazoo is
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  sold, I will be not the first, second or third, but I might be
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  the 4th through 10th person to find out because I'm connected
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  to the Kalamazoo Speedway Facebook page, which means I
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  would have to be removed from the Facebook page to give it to
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  the new people. And I'm still on the Kalamazoo
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  page. So I know it's not sold.
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  That doesn't mean that there's not conversations, but it's not
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  sold. It hasn't been sold.
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  No checks have it or cash has exchanged hands and super shoes
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  full steam ahead. Donnie Ritter and his team are
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  working hard on two shows. We need to give them credit for
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  that because putting Michigan Cup together and everything
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  they've had to do at Michigan Cup are at Springport to get
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  that track ready after the we won't go into those details
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  about what was left behind for them, but you know, they're
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  working hard. So if if you're seeing those
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  rumors, put them to squash, you know, help us out because people
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  are are messaging the page and and others and just stop, knock
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  it off. It's not fun and it's not funny.
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  And if you're doing it and you're watching it, there's a
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  lot of other words I could say right now, but it's before 9:00
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  PM, so I won't, but I'll leave it at that.
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  Just knock it off. Speaking of knock it off, this
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  Thursday we're knocking off another episode of the Thursday
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  Night Throttle. Yeah, yeah, look at that.
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  Remember, we are every other week.
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  That was not cancelled either, just so anyone wants to know.
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  Not that anyone said it was, but then Thursday, October 1st,
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  we'll be back October 15th. So next Monday, it's going to be
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  a very Bahama bracket heavy show.
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  Just to let you know, we're going to bring to save on.
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  We're look, we're talking with a lot of guests about coming on.
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  So it's going to be very Bahama bracket heavy to talk about all
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  that. And I know there's about 9
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  Galesburg drivers for interest in going down to the Bahama
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  brackets. So if anyone wants to do that in
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  October, I believe that's 16th, 17th and 18th.
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  We're going to even have a Thursday night throttle before
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  that. The throttle this week is before
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  Trifecta and Super shoe. October 1st is before Michigan
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  Cup and October 29th. That's when it was every other
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  that fell there. And then this the we will start
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  one episode a month on a Thursday starting in November.
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  And then I want to get to our trivia question before we bring
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  on Bri. I know we're a few minutes
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  behind, but since I was asked to address the rumors, I wanted to
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  help with that. And like I said, I'm emotionally
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  dysregulated enough to do that that I could deliver it more
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  bluntly than maybe my kind, happy self would on a normal
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  night. But how many years has it been
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  since a female driver won a track championship at Galesburg?
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  Bonus. Name the champion so you can put
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  it right in the comments here if you think it's been 30 years
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  since a champion. Female champion in the Pure
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  Stocks front wheel drive classes one or thirteen years for BC,
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  three years maybe recently or D20 four years ago.
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  And the bonus is name the person.
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  So is that Taylor Ferns who now races in the 500 Sprint Car Tour
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  and bounces all around? Tina Lewis, who is also helping
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  to organize the mass chaos that is Super Shoe Nationals camping.
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  Or Camille Lewis who just raced in a school bus at Kalamazoo
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  over the weekend. Or Shirley Elliott who you can
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  find a really cool picture of her racing at Galesburg in 1992
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  on Checkered Flag podcast news or whatever Facebook page that
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  is. So Shirley Elliott, Camille
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  Lewis, Tina Lewis, or Taylor Ferns, all awesome female
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  drivers. Speaking of an awesome female
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  driver, Boozoo, Are you ready to engage Bree mode?
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  Let's. Do it.
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  All right, the new Galesburg champion and I believe first
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  time champion in her career, Bree Brady.
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  Let's go ahead and bring her. Oh, I messed it up.
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  Let's bring her on. I hit the wrong graphic there
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  twice. Twice I engaged, I engaged Bree
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  mode too much, I went too much. I went to click and they're not
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  in the right order right now because Buju's secret that he
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  doesn't know about that roulette is in the way.
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  And so I went to click off of 1 and the other so fired the
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  production guy too much Bree mode, but welcome Bree.
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  You know I'm a big fan of yours. So welcome to the Monday night
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  Rewind. As you know our softball
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  question because I know you've watched the show before.
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  I always like to start off with who are you?
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  Because you have a lot of people watching right now.
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  Don't be nervous about that. They you can only see us and
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  they can see you, but you can't see them.
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  So you don't know who's watching.
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  Yeah. Only a couple million.
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  Yeah. I'm good at driving a race car,
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  not very good at talking, so see how this goes.
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  You, you just do you. You know, that's like I was
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  telling you on yesterday, you just imagine we're sitting in a
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  pit box having a conversation. So, so for those who are
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  watching who may not know who you are, especially since you're
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  at Galesburg a lot this year, you didn't race as much of
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  Kalamazoo. So sometimes the fan bases
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  crossover, sometimes they don't. So definitely who's Bree Brady?
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  Yeah, I started racing IN24I raced both Kalamazoo and
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  Galesburg and then 25I raced both Kalamazoo and Galesburg.
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  And then this year I've just raced Galesburg and must be a
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  good thing because we managed to pull 2 championships out of
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  just, you know, taking one night at a time and a lot easier doing
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  one night instead of two. But yeah, I mean, I work, I my
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  brother and me and my my dad, we we go every weekend and pretty
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  much just race and have fun. Well, and you're always laid
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  back too, like you, you just seem very laid back.
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  You know, you don't seem like the day gets to you.
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  And and that's even something that even if, you know, you
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  crash at Super Shoe or wherever it may be, right?
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  Like it didn't seem to like, like, yeah, there might be
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  disappointment, but you're always laid back.
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  So what is it that you do to keep yourself grounded?
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  Like how do you do that with competition?
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  Right. Well, I've definitely had to
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  help hold my temperate back a few times I've I've learned that
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  side come out of me. But yeah, I don't know.
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  I honestly freak out during right before I go out and then
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  once I hit the track I'm like, OK, it's a little bit kosher
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  now. Then you know, I always know I
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  have my dad coming back and he'll Get Me Out every weekend
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  so. Well, and do you want to talk a
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  little bit like do you have any superstitions or anything that
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  like help you like once you're on the track, like do you go
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  through a process like there even as a, you know, I'm just a
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  videographer. So like, but I have my own
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  superstitions. There are certain things that I
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  do in a certain order every race night.
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  So, so do you have any superstitions or anything that
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  you do that, you know, even kind of helps bring you down a little
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  bit? Oh yeah, I, as soon as I get in
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  the car, everything is the same. I'm strapping up the same.
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  And then I, you know, put my helmet on and then I, I found
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  this 7th leaf Clover right before race day one time I taped
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  it to my car and I've got I got to touch that like 3 times and
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  my brother comes up and gives me a pep talk right before the race
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  and, and then I'm off. Well, that's something that, you
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  know, a lot of people may not know if they don't go to
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  Galesburg, right, is, you know, when they think of like a sea
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  champion, you know, they might go, oh, you know, well, that's
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  like AC feature, but it's like, oh, but there's like 70 of them,
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  you know, on a night, right? It's not like this is a, you
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  know, there was 10 people you're competing against and that's how
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  you got it right. Like you're competing against a
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  lot of people, you know, who, who are racing, who are very
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  dedicated to Galesburg week in and week out.
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  So do you want to talk a little bit about like the competition
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  aspect? Like you know, someone may hear
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  see feature and they may not think much of it, but sometimes
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  even at Kalamazoo, some of the most competitive features we
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  have had are not those A features, but that B&C feature.
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  And definitely, I mean, the C always comes with headlines too.
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  So so talk a little bit about like the competition aspect,
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  like how do you find yourself? I know you have a win this year,
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  right? But how do you find yourself as
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  champion in such a deep field? Like what did it take to get
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  there? Really it's just surviving the
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  sea feature. It's a lot of new racers always
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  seem to, you know, nobody, they're not going to be fast
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  enough to be in the B the first time out.
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  So we usually get them and then it's trying to avoid them.
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  But yeah, it's really just keeping your head on a swivel as
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  much as you can and just trying to read 5 cars in front of you.
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  Well, and a Buju is he pretends to be a racer.
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  By the way, don't let him fool you.
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  He but he raced his Hornets, which would be AC feature car
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  over at Galesburg. That's why I was trying to tell
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  people like I'm trying to convince new pairs to go to an
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  ABC style and like you already are doing it.
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  You just don't call it that, right, like it's already ABC,
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  but you know, you know, there's that mentality.
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  Oh, I'm in AC feature. I'm my car is not AC feature car
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  where it's like, well, it still pays to go win and it still has
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  all these things and you 3 champions instead of 2
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  champions. So it's one more champion for
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  everybody, right. But you know, with that this
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  year you debuted a new car or a new look.
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  I mean definitely a new look too.
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  So you know, last year you had like your golden nugget that I
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  think a lot of people fell in love with.
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  This year you went a little different.
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  So if you want to even talk a little bit about your card
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  history and and why the number 24, where that came from and
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  even how you got into it, because as I was talking with
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  your dad yesterday, I'm like, well, I know John or not John.
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  Dad shot Bo. I know Bo was like first to
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  race. So then like, yeah, how'd you
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  get in a car? So I know I threw a lot at you
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  at once. Take it however you want.
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  Chew on it whichever way you want first.
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  But like, yeah, no, you're all in one.
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  Really, the number 24, me and my brother, we wouldn't, we've
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  argued about giving it up. Neither of us were giving it up,
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  but it's a family number. It's, I mean greats and greats
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  and greats have had it. So we just, we like to hold on
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  to a little bit of tradition, but.
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  I did the Golden Nugget and then the car this year, yeah.
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  Really. The golden turd, Golden Nugget,
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  we called it. It was not supposed to be my car
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  at all. I, the first race at Galesburg
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  last year, I, I wrecked the first lap.
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  So we had to find something quick and it was a quick, you
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  know, $500 car. And we raced it the way it
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  looked, you know, had people signing on autograph night,
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  which was pretty cool. But then we changed it this year
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  and my dad's always, he's been into like stereo competitions
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  and stuff like that. And he always made his cars look
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  cool. And I just always remember him
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  having this purple and yellow car.
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  And I just, I kind of went off of that.
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  I was like, it's what I want to do.
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  And my dad was like, oh, we're doing that.
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  The purple and yellow definitely was my probably my favorite car
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  we've done. Yeah, I well, I think I was
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  telling you that too. I'm like, man, this is a solid
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  looking car, like it stands out, it's sharp looking like it
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  doesn't look like a front wheel drive right.
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  It looks super solid and but you know that gold car man that had
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  personality too to it. And and so with that too, you
• 20:27
  know, a lot of times you also carry an American flag and then
• 20:29
  I'm going to toss it over to Buju after this.
• 20:31
  But you know, you always have an American flag, you know, that's
• 20:34
  riding along with you too. So is there any any reason for
• 20:37
  like the American flag riding along with you too?
• 20:40
  Or is it one of those like patriotic USA or is there a
• 20:43
  family connection? Like, what's the story behind
• 20:45
  the American flag that always is riding in your cars?
• 20:48
  Really we just, we like to hold on to the tradition kind of
• 20:52
  thing. In the first year, 4th of July,
• 20:55
  I put one on my car and then after that I kept it on for the
• 20:58
  rest of the year. And that's what we've done for
• 21:00
  the last two years is waited till 4th of July and then left
• 21:04
  it on after that to support, you know, America and oh, everybody
• 21:09
  loves, you know. Yeah, you can't go wrong with
• 21:12
  the American flag, right? But that's where I thought, you
• 21:14
  know, sort of story, like is there a military connection or
• 21:17
  is there some kind of something, you know, with that?
• 21:20
  Because I'm like, I know like Ronnie, right?
• 21:22
  He runs a flag and, you know, he's a firefighter and you have
• 21:25
  a couple others who have like members.
• 21:26
  So I'm like, what's your story with that?
• 21:28
  Because I actually haven't asked you that in person.
• 21:30
  So. But I'm starting to think wait
• 21:33
  the flag I should ask about that before I hand it off to Buju.
• 21:35
  So. But I will to from 1 front front
• 21:39
  wheel drive racer to another I will hand it off.
• 21:43
  Well, First off, congratulations on the championship.
• 21:46
  Thank. You Second going to the chat
• 21:48
  here, Sabrina Sabrina Beebe wants to ask about the time you
• 21:51
  were on a hook and you got her in trouble.
• 21:55
  Time on a hook. Yeah.
• 21:57
  You're on the hook and you got her.
• 21:59
  I've got, I feel like I've gotten Sabrina in a lot of
• 22:01
  trouble. Fair.
• 22:02
  Enough. Can't Barrow it down.
• 22:04
  So you've raised Kalamazoo in Galesburg.
• 22:07
  What other tracks are on your list?
• 22:08
  What? What?
• 22:08
  Where else do you want to? Hit.
• 22:11
  I've raced at Owosso one time and then Mottville was the first
• 22:15
  ever track I like ever practiced on.
• 22:18
  And then I didn't race, I just practice.
• 22:20
  But I, I kind of want to travel next year.
• 22:23
  Kind of not sure what you know is up the works for next year,
• 22:27
  but I would like to try to, you know, new tracks.
• 22:31
  And we went to Corrigan yesterday and I've never been
• 22:34
  there and that was awesome to watch.
• 22:36
  My brother raced it and that would be a fun track to race.
• 22:42
  But yeah, I don't know. So some family history in racing
• 22:46
  and so did you race against your brother?
• 22:47
  Sorry, I'm not all that familiar.
• 22:48
  I'm not. Galesburg is a little out of my
• 22:50
  reach, so I don't not all that familiar.
• 22:52
  So do you race against your brother?
• 22:54
  My brother is in the street stack now.
• 22:57
  OK, I got. You.
• 22:58
  Yep. So there's a lot of, so there's
• 23:00
  some family history in racing. You think that gave you a little
• 23:02
  bit of an edge when you started your career?
• 23:05
  He raced one year before me so. And we got so you got a few
• 23:10
  notes. Yeah, we didn't have anybody in
• 23:13
  the family racing before that. We had some friends from Mad Dog
• 23:19
  Racing that we've we've grew up around and we wanted to give it
• 23:23
  a try and, you know, see how things went and we fell in love
• 23:27
  with it. So we haven't stopped.
• 23:29
  So do you think that was an extra challenge going into it
• 23:31
  without a family history and racing?
• 23:32
  I that's something I feel like I noticed a lot is the people who
• 23:35
  come in without a background and are like most people, their dad
• 23:39
  raced and then their grandfather raced for him.
• 23:41
  You don't have, you didn't have that case.
• 23:42
  So was that an extra challenge for you guys?
• 23:44
  Oh yeah, it's definitely, it was a learning everything.
• 23:49
  Like we didn't, we went out there not knowing, you know, the
• 23:53
  tires had to be different. You know everything.
• 23:55
  And you know, it's a whole new ball game coming into it and
• 23:59
  really it's finding friends and who will help you out and it's
• 24:04
  really cool. The racing community is awesome.
• 24:07
  So how did you find? How did you get involved in
• 24:09
  racing in the 1st place? How did you find it?
• 24:12
  Like I said, the our Mad Dog racing, so like Bob Garrett,
• 24:17
  Chris Garrett, we've we grew up with, you know, racing around
• 24:21
  them and watching them race. Gotcha.
• 24:23
  So. Jumping through them, I got just
• 24:26
  understood that first part, no? So if you could name one person
• 24:30
  that you wouldn't be where you are today without, who would
• 24:33
  that be? Oh, definitely my my dad.
• 24:37
  He he does everything for me, top down, bottom, sideways.
• 24:43
  I I definitely couldn't ask for a better one, that's for sure.
• 24:47
  All right. My last question, I'll throw it
• 24:49
  back to Lewis. What's your next big goal?
• 24:51
  You got championship under your belt now, congratulations once
• 24:54
  again, but you got what's the next one?
• 24:56
  What's the next big circle that you got?
• 24:57
  What do you want to do next in a race car?
• 24:59
  Yeah, really, I think I want to move up class.
• 25:02
  I think, you know, might as well have a little bit more fun with
• 25:07
  it and see if I can do any better, get any faster.
• 25:09
  Maybe we'll see about a new car 'cause I might have blown it up
• 25:13
  the last night. So, yeah, so it's all kind of up
• 25:18
  in the air for next year. But that's what we're going to
• 25:21
  shoot for is trying to go into the B class and just see what we
• 25:25
  can do. Well, and that's again that
• 25:29
  front wheel drive group over at Galesburg and even that Callum
• 25:32
  is you and I'm next year at Springport when Spring Park is
• 25:35
  back online, right? I mean, it's so deep and I don't
• 25:38
  think a lot of people give it credit, right?
• 25:40
  I know a lot of times, you know, people here front wheel drive
• 25:43
  racing and sometimes I think the people who judge front wheel
• 25:46
  drive racing forget that they used to be a front wheel drive
• 25:49
  racer, right? Like you got to start somewhere
• 25:52
  and like Buju and I have talked and we both agree on this like
• 25:55
  we don't view the front wheel drives as an entry class like
• 25:57
  it's a great class to get into, but if you hang around there for
• 26:01
  a bit, there's nothing wrong with that, right?
• 26:03
  Like it's fine to be a front wheel drive racer.
• 26:05
  There are people who have front wheel drive race for decades
• 26:08
  now, right, and it's like that they it's more expensive stuff.
• 26:16
  So but with that, you know, you talked about your goals for 2027
• 26:20
  and obviously you have a big team behind you.
• 26:23
  I know when you've you and Bo have had so much success on the
• 26:28
  track and so many different ways, right, It may not always
• 26:30
  be winning that feature, but it you know, really good runs or
• 26:34
  solid finishes and you can hear the crowd supporting you.
• 26:38
  So if you want to shout out, you know people who are our
• 26:42
  marketing partners with your 24 car, people who just support in
• 26:46
  general that you look forward to seeing at the track every week
• 26:49
  and and all that kind of deal. So if you want to do some of
• 26:51
  those shout outs. Yeah, Twisted Automotive, he's
• 26:56
  one of my big sponsors. I gosh, I have so many sponsors,
• 27:01
  but really my family that comes out for me every week is huge
• 27:07
  for me. I've, I don't know if I could
• 27:09
  race without, you know, having them support me and screaming
• 27:13
  for me and, you know, just really everybody that has gained
• 27:18
  to like me, I don't know anybody down in turn 1.
• 27:22
  And every time I get out of my car, they're hooting and
• 27:25
  hollering. And I just think it's really the
• 27:27
  coolest thing. And seeing all the kids come up
• 27:29
  is, is really what's the coolest thing.
• 27:33
  Well, we even talked yesterday too, right, that, you know, you
• 27:37
  are a female racer, right? Like it's it's 2026 and it kind
• 27:42
  of sucks to still have to think about like male racers and
• 27:44
  female racers. But you know, there's even
• 27:46
  though there's more now, you know, like who comes from an
• 27:49
  area where, you know, Cindy Extremi was like the trailblazer
• 27:53
  in that area, right? And so she had a race with the
• 27:56
  boys and and earned her stripes. And it's like, well, she's a
• 27:59
  school bus driver. She earned her stripes a long
• 28:01
  time ago. She doesn't take anybody out,
• 28:03
  right? You know, if she can survive a
• 28:04
  school bus, she can certainly survive a street stock race.
• 28:07
  But but with that, right, Like you're a female racer and
• 28:09
  although front wheel drives to Seymour racers, you know,
• 28:13
  Galesburg is not very common. Mottville had this, but not so
• 28:17
  much at other tracks. It's not very common to see a
• 28:19
  female champion. So what is it like for you?
• 28:22
  Because I've seen this from the roof and even at Galesburg to
• 28:25
  see, you know, the young female fans and even sometimes their
• 28:30
  moms and others, you know, women who are supporting on where I'm
• 28:33
  like, I don't think they're related because they're not
• 28:36
  wearing your shirts, but they're supporting.
• 28:38
  You're like go girl and all these things, right?
• 28:39
  So what is it like for you as you pass by or you're doing a
• 28:43
  wave lap to see like those little girls and everything, you
• 28:46
  know, cheering you on and and being ready because you know,
• 28:49
  we, we need more female representation still, even
• 28:53
  though it's 2026, we still need more in the sport.
• 28:55
  Yeah, yeah, that's honestly like the coolest thing.
• 28:59
  I always tend to get a little emotional when I see, you know,
• 29:03
  kids out there, you know, specifically waving at me and
• 29:07
  just, I can hear them sometimes when I, you know, fly by.
• 29:11
  And it's, it's unlike anything to have somebody look up to you
• 29:17
  like that, that you, you don't know who you know, who they are
• 29:20
  or you know where they come from or anything like that.
• 29:23
  And they don't know, you know, anything about you.
• 29:25
  And it's, it's really cool to get out of the car and they, you
• 29:29
  know, they realize, oh, she's a, she's a female.
• 29:32
  And it tends to be quite a hit. But I don't like to let it
• 29:38
  define me because I don't. I definitely don't act very
• 29:44
  feminine, but. Well, you don't have to.
• 29:48
  You'd just be you, right? That's what I always tell
• 29:50
  people. You'd just be you, right?
• 29:52
  You know, you know who's going to win and fight them or you,
• 29:55
  I'm going to probably pick you a lot of times, right?
• 29:57
  Like I'm like, I don't know if she's out there with front wheel
• 29:59
  drive racers who can sometimes be, you know, crazy.
• 30:02
  So she can handle them. She can definitely handle you.
• 30:05
  So, so, you know, again, it's one of those, you know, it's one
• 30:09
  of those awesome things that, you know, it, it's still, it's
• 30:12
  like, man, it's 2026 that you hate to think of it this way,
• 30:14
  but I mean, the history of Galesburg says that it's this
• 30:17
  way, right? That, you know, there's not been
• 30:20
  a lot of female champions. And so, you know, before we let
• 30:23
  you get going, which you didn't even think, right, You're a
• 30:25
  little nervous about this and you've done just fine.
• 30:27
  I know I. Calm down a little bit.
• 30:30
  So yeah, you just imagine you're on the racetrack.
• 30:32
  Apparently that's what works better than thinking you're in
• 30:34
  the pit lane or whatever, like, you know, But if you want to
• 30:38
  help us, the the production guy has to click the right graphic
• 30:42
  here. So give me a moment so I don't
• 30:44
  mess it up. But if you want to help us too
• 30:46
  with this trivia question before we do let you get going.
• 30:49
  So as we were saying, like at Galesburg, there's not a deep
• 30:52
  history of female champions. And So what I'm calling this new
• 30:58
  segment is the rewind brain Buster.
• 31:00
  So I'm hoping each week to have some kind of trivia from
• 31:04
  something or somewhere. Ron Brash may help me a little
• 31:06
  bit with this too. But again, it's how many years
• 31:09
  has it been since a female driver won a track championship
• 31:13
  at Galesburg? Bonus, name the champion.
• 31:16
  So our first options and a lot of people did guess was A 30
• 31:21
  years, B 13 years, C three years or D20 four years.
• 31:25
  And then of course the bonus was the the driver and is to pick
• 31:29
  from the 500 Sprint car tour racer Taylor Ferns, who has
• 31:33
  raced at Galesburg and in fact won a Sprint car race at
• 31:36
  Galesburg if I remember correctly.
• 31:38
  Tina Lewis, obviously she does a lot in short track racing right
• 31:41
  now, including managing all those super shoot camping sites
• 31:44
  that are going to be filled here in a couple weeks.
• 31:48
  Camille Lewis, daughter of Tina and also a pretty, I'm going to
• 31:52
  say the this isn't FCC regulated.
• 31:54
  So badass driver herself, Camille Lewis and then of
• 31:57
  course, Shirley Elliott, who has raced at Galesburg in the past.
• 32:01
  So Bree, since this question is about you, I'm going to hand it
• 32:06
  over to you and you can tell everybody the answer and the
• 32:10
  person and how that all relates back right to you all.
• 32:15
  Right. So it has been 24 years since
• 32:21
  the last female driver won the track championship and Tina
• 32:27
  Lewis is who won the track championship in 2002.
• 32:34
  This kind of is correlating to me because my crazy enough, my
• 32:39
  number is 24. I I will.
• 32:42
  I'm 24 years old, but yeah. So and you started in the year?
• 32:50
  Yes, I I did start racing in 2024, yeah.
• 32:54
  So 20 fours across the board. So that almost is like somebody
• 32:58
  needs to go play like the lottery or whatever, right.
• 33:00
  So, but with that, that's again it, you know, I'm so excited
• 33:06
  that you did come on and I that's where I'm like, I let
• 33:08
  your first response two a little bit where I'm like, OK, you
• 33:12
  know, I went to your dad and it's going to pull the nuclear
• 33:15
  option. And then I saw you in person
• 33:16
  yesterday. I'm like, well, and I did tell
• 33:18
  you I'm like, I did talk to your dad and I was going to pull a
• 33:20
  nuclear option, but I got to do it myself.
• 33:22
  So I'm so glad that you came on. You did so well.
• 33:25
  I mean, you've had a lot of people watching you in this time
• 33:28
  frame. So again, congratulations on
• 33:31
  your first track championship. You're definitely fun to watch
• 33:34
  out on the track. Well, thank you.
• 33:36
  Thank you guys so much. I had fun doing this for sure.
• 33:39
  So lots of Bree mode was engaged and so you know, I'm like, we
• 33:44
  should get that on AT shirt at some point.
• 33:47
  You know, I because obviously I like that nickname since I think
• 33:51
  I came up with it. But Oh yes, I'll be you, Louis.
• 33:54
  But but that's where again, you know, and when Bo gets out
• 33:57
  there, it's Bo time. So you know, we got to get Bo on
• 34:00
  here now you could tell him, Oh, it's not that awful.
• 34:02
  You can go and do it and you know, but again, you did such a
• 34:06
  fantastic job. So again, you know, enjoy this
• 34:09
  championship. I saw a cat jumping behind you a
• 34:11
  little bit, so I'm like. Yeah.
• 34:14
  Animals are welcome on here. We've had you know, we've had
• 34:17
  dogs and cats and all the things on here.
• 34:19
  So so again, that's where I appreciate you.
• 34:22
  Congratulations and and awesome. If there's anyone who can help
• 34:27
  represent Galesburg and give Galesburg the positive light
• 34:30
  that it does deserve, it's Someone Like You who can say
• 34:33
  like, hey, you know what? We know it might be a little
• 34:36
  rough around the edges, but there's a lot of awesome people
• 34:38
  here. I'm one of those people.
• 34:39
  Come watch us next year in 2027. Tame.
• 34:43
  Tame the Berg, as they call it so.
• 34:47
  Oh yes. Now Buju, anything good for the
• 34:50
  group before we let her off and she can do a big sigh of relief
• 34:53
  and be like OK, that wasn't as painful as I thought.
• 34:55
  No, I think, I think we covered you did good.
• 34:57
  So congratulations on that. Congratulations on the
• 34:59
  Championship once again and thank you for coming on.
• 35:02
  No, absolutely. Again, if you miss any part of
• 35:05
  this conversation, we have been talking with Brie Brady since
• 35:08
  about 7:10. We were 5 minutes late because I
• 35:10
  had to do some housekeeping notes at the beginning.
• 35:12
  But again, she is the driver of the 24 and she is the first pure
• 35:17
  stock front wheel drive champion since 2022.
• 35:21
  Female Tina Lewis of course was the last one to do that so
• 35:26
  started her career in 24. She is 24 races to 24 and it has
• 35:30
  been 24 years since that. But now a a new streak gets to
• 35:34
  start here. So again, if you miss any part
• 35:38
  of it once we're done live, you can always go back right here on
• 35:41
  Facebook and watch it again. I try to be very mindful of what
• 35:44
  I post on top of the podcast. So I'm usually wait close to 12
• 35:48
  to 24 hours before I post anything.
• 35:50
  You can see it on YouTube. It's also free on YouTube and
• 35:54
  Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts all over.
• 35:58
  So wherever you watch any of that or listen to any of that,
• 36:02
  you can listen to us in the car, wherever you can listen to the
• 36:06
  full interview. Again, it started about 10
• 36:08
  minutes into the show. We were 5 minutes late getting
• 36:11
  to Bri. But again, you did such a
• 36:12
  fantastic job. So thank you again.
• 36:15
  Thank you. Oh no.
• 36:17
  Nice talking to you guys. Now we're going to see you at
• 36:20
  Super Shoe at all. You said maybe not racing, but
• 36:22
  are we going to see you? We are going to try to get my
• 36:26
  car ready. So we are.
• 36:28
  Going for racing, but if not, we will definitely be there.
• 36:31
  We are racing or we're pitting with Sabrina, so.
• 36:34
  OK, so I get to so when I go make fun of Sabrina, I can go
• 36:38
  make fun of you at the same time.
• 36:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always like to give Brie a
• 36:43
  hard time, but I usually start with Sabrina first, so, and
• 36:46
  she's been on here a lot. She said it was your banner.
• 36:49
  It's on your banner when you got her in trouble.
• 36:52
  She's not kidding. The main 1 is on her banner so
• 36:54
  when you got her in trouble and you're on the hook or whatever,
• 36:57
  what did you what you what happened?
• 36:59
  Well, it was. I wasn't happy with my shirt and
• 37:04
  I asked her to change it and she had to go through a whole big
• 37:08
  thing with the company and oh boy.
• 37:10
  But it's all fixed now, so we're good.
• 37:13
  All right, Josh. Is Sabrina.
• 37:14
  Shirt is good, things are good. And, and I mean, and that's been
• 37:19
  awesome for you guys to have Sabrina over at Galesburg this
• 37:21
  year. You know, I'm, when she got her
• 37:23
  camera back right away, I went to her and I said, I want you to
• 37:26
  be a part of my team. And I've been bringing her on.
• 37:28
  And then this year, you know, she was just supposed to help
• 37:30
  with cameras at Kalamazoo. And before we knew it, she was
• 37:34
  like, Kalamazoo doesn't have a track photographer, but like
• 37:38
  they're a nights that she wasn't there taking photos.
• 37:40
  There would be 0 photos unless someone went out with her cell
• 37:42
  phone to do it. So, you know, definitely, you
• 37:46
  know, I'm a big fan of Sabrina. I'm so glad that she's able to
• 37:49
  help cover your season. Of course, now your championship
• 37:52
  is enshrined, you know, forever in digital media.
• 37:54
  Like can't take that away. We got the photos celebrating
• 37:57
  it. So again, congratulations, Bri,
• 38:00
  and we'll see you at Super Shoe. Yes.
• 38:04
  Thank you guys. No, thank you.
• 38:06
  So we're going to let the cat out of the bag here just a
• 38:09
  little bit. I got to click another graphic
• 38:11
  here. Nope, that's Sean Sprague.
• 38:13
  See, I'm messing it all up. Here we go.
• 38:15
  Oh, and then I did it to Bri again.
• 38:18
  I I am Boo boojoo. I just need to put him out of
• 38:21
  order. So I'm going to do that when we
• 38:23
  bring on Sean because it's just not working for me right now.
• 38:26
  It feels like it's playing. Roulette with the graphics.
• 38:27
  Over yeah I was yeah it's been a while though it has been a while
• 38:32
  since like I've been clip happy over here but I.
• 38:34
  Weekend and a long day. Yeah, well, yeah, just long day
• 38:37
  in itself. But when I came up with the
• 38:40
  rewind, we were light. I had I did not know that Bella
• 38:43
  had passed away. So then after I found out Bella
• 38:46
  passed away, I'm like, oh, now I got to come up with this because
• 38:48
  I already advertised it. So it's not good timing on
• 38:51
  anything but. But anyways, we're doing a new
• 38:55
  segment tonight because after we get off with Sean, I thought we
• 38:59
  can close a little bit with discussion to bring in a little
• 39:01
  bit of Thursday night throttle. So I'm calling it the rewind.
• 39:05
  Oh my gosh, words rewind roulette wheel say that fast,
• 39:09
  actually. Like that's yeah, yeah, I'm just
• 39:12
  going to take credit that that's tough.
• 39:14
  And so we're not going to say it fast ever.
• 39:15
  But we'll have a special or we'll have several topics of
• 39:19
  discussion. The wheel will be spun and
• 39:22
  whatever topic is chosen, Louis and Buju will discuss or debate.
• 39:27
  Share your thoughts in the comments along with us when we
• 39:30
  get there. So the wheel will decide what we
• 39:33
  talk about. And so I will give you a preview
• 39:35
  while we have everyone on. This is why, again, I put Sean
• 39:38
  at 7:45. So it gave us a little bit of
• 39:40
  runtime to preview this. So our topics of discussion, let
• 39:46
  me click here really quick. I won't show the wheel, but
• 39:50
  there. So Buju, this gives you an idea
• 39:53
  so you'll have some time to kind of think about it.
• 39:55
  It's going to be true or false. Outlaw Super Late Model racing
• 39:58
  will still exist within five years.
• 40:02
  The second topic that we might talk about, a driver goes to
• 40:05
  social media and bashes a track. The track notifies them they are
• 40:09
  no longer allowed to race there for the rest of the season, but
• 40:12
  the driver comes crawling back, as they always do.
• 40:16
  I didn't put that, I'm actually improvising on those words, but
• 40:18
  you know it's true. I'll never race here again and
• 40:22
  within a week their messaging I want to come back.
• 40:23
  So anyways, should the track with them back or let them sit
• 40:28
  out a year and have thoughts to themselves?
• 40:30
  Front wheel drive racers? This is third topic.
• 40:33
  Front wheel drive racers often note that they do not have big
• 40:36
  shows and comment on how they bring people.
• 40:40
  Is it true that a front wheel drive race would bring more
• 40:42
  people than AV8 race #4 this or that 100 lap late model feature
• 40:49
  or A50 lap St. Stock feature?
• 40:52
  And we could talk why or why not for the this or that topic #5
• 40:57
  that we may talk about is Mount Rushmore 2.0.
• 41:00
  Who are your top 4 drivers from 2026?
• 41:05
  And then yeah, see. And then topic number six
• 41:09
  segment racing. Should short tracks adopt
• 41:12
  segment racing for special events?
• 41:14
  Example, Kalamazoo Clash becomes a 200 lap race broken into two
• 41:19
  to three segments. So those are the four or those
• 41:23
  are the six topics that we may or may not talk about.
• 41:29
  Well, I mean we'll talk about one of them, but those are the
• 41:31
  preview for your first rewind roulette where the wheel decides
• 41:37
  what we talked about. So I figure it's fair since I
• 41:40
  didn't tell you I was doing it and then after I said we were
• 41:45
  going to do it and then obviously the news, I wasn't
• 41:48
  ready to talk about it yet. So so anyways, that's a little
• 41:52
  bit of a preview since it was a bit of a secret from you.
• 41:54
  So now I'm going to move the graphics really quick.
• 41:56
  So I click the right one this time.
• 41:59
  So before we get there and bring Sean on.
• 42:02
  So any what topic do you hope we land on?
• 42:06
  Man, there's some good ones in there.
• 42:07
  The Mount Rushmore one would be really tough.
• 42:09
  I almost hope we don't get that one because I don't know if I
• 42:11
  could. I don't know if I could come up
• 42:12
  with. Four names.
• 42:13
  That's all you get, buddy. Yeah, that would, yeah.
• 42:17
  But yeah, there's some good topics in there, it'd be hard to
• 42:19
  choose. Well, and if anyone in the
• 42:21
  comments section wants to say what 1 you hope we land on or
• 42:24
  what one we talk about, because I want while we're talk about
• 42:27
  it, I want everyone in the comments to be talking about it
• 42:29
  too. I want them to help be a part of
• 42:31
  that discussion where, you know, we can show their show their
• 42:35
  thoughts on, you know, the show as well.
• 42:39
  But that's where I thought bring a little bit of our discussion
• 42:42
  that we usually save for the last 20 minutes of the RE or the
• 42:45
  throttle, kind of bring that over, but do it a little
• 42:47
  different, You know, have a topic.
• 42:49
  And then what we'll do is that when we pick a topic, I will
• 42:53
  save it for the following week where that one will be removed.
• 42:56
  But a similar category. So think of like Jeopardy.
• 42:59
  So like, let's say we do get the Mount Rushmore tonight, then
• 43:03
  next week it would still it would still be Mount Rushmore
• 43:07
  2.0. But it might be like, you know,
• 43:09
  who's your all time late model list or who's your all time St.
• 43:12
  stock list or, or, you know, what's your top four race tracks
• 43:16
  or whatever it may be like we'll think of Mount Rushmore for each
• 43:19
  time. Or if it's the front wheel drive
• 43:21
  one, it'll be, you know, something like, you know,
• 43:25
  something related that is pulled from Facebook posts and
• 43:28
  discussions that I just see all the time where I'm like, oh,
• 43:31
  that which is the inspiration between a lot of these.
• 43:34
  Like a lot of people talk about the outlaw and the health of the
• 43:36
  outlaws right now. So I thought, well, that's
• 43:39
  definitely a a topic of conversation, especially, you
• 43:42
  know, as reveal, you know, starts to plan their 2027 year,
• 43:46
  but it's like, but is it going to be around 5 years from now?
• 43:49
  Maybe maybe not. Do we have reasoning?
• 43:51
  So, so that's what the Rewind roulette would be.
• 43:54
  So again, everyone in the comments can participate with
• 43:57
  the topic. Or if you have an idea and you
• 43:59
  want me to include that in the roulette wheel, I'll throw it on
• 44:03
  there, right. So we can always talk about the
• 44:04
  health of the Sprint car world in terms of asphalt, because
• 44:09
  obviously we had John Boy Hotchkiss on a few weeks ago who
• 44:12
  operates tri-state experiences owner.
• 44:15
  But now I'm so excited to bring on Sean here in just a few
• 44:19
  seconds, maybe a minute or so, Sean to not only see their
• 44:24
  manager, like he helps manage the day-to-day operations, that
• 44:27
  kind of deal, but he's there in social media, but he's also
• 44:31
  their series announcer. So he gets to know the drivers
• 44:33
  on a on a you know, real close level too.
• 44:37
  But in his announcing career, right, we've had a lot of
• 44:40
  announcers on so far this year. And so I thought it would be
• 44:42
  cool to have our next announcer on, especially for anyone who
• 44:47
  does announce, and this isn't just you thing or wants to
• 44:49
  announce. They can learn from someone who
• 44:51
  just retired a lot. Semi retired last year from full
• 44:54
  time announcing and he's been all over and done a lot of
• 44:57
  different things. So if you're ready, we're we're
• 45:00
  almost on time now, right? We are a little behind, but
• 45:02
  we're almost, you know, on time here with 745 before we bring
• 45:06
  them on because we have about 30 seconds again.
• 45:09
  Don't forget Thursday we will have the throttle back to
• 45:13
  preview the upcoming weekend and we'll talk champions because
• 45:16
  almost every track now has her champion crown, but we have 3
• 45:19
  champions left to crown and that's the trifecta champions.
• 45:23
  And then October 1st we're back, October 15th we're back and
• 45:26
  October 29th we're back. And then after that on
• 45:29
  Thursdays. This is Thursday specific, the
• 45:32
  flagship Monday night rewinds not going anywhere.
• 45:34
  That will always be on Mondays except for last week when it was
• 45:36
  on Wednesday. But I don't regret that though I
• 45:38
  got home at 5:00 from Grundy and I was the I would have been
• 45:42
  worthless by the Showtime so. So I actually don't regret
• 45:47
  moving it to last last Wednesday, but I know it wasn't
• 45:50
  our it wasn't a strong episode in that case, right?
• 45:53
  We kind of knew what we were up against.
• 45:54
  But Dalton did a great job though, you know, Co hosting I.
• 45:57
  Haven't listened yet. I I was worried about getting
• 46:00
  replaced by Dalton. So not yet.
• 46:02
  I almost actually reached out to him to say hey, but he has his
• 46:05
  baby's coming up this week. So they're they're having a
• 46:09
  baby. So I didn't even bother to reach
• 46:10
  out. But earlier with going through
• 46:12
  everything. Your priorities in line, Dalton.
• 46:14
  Yeah. Well, that that is a priority,
• 46:16
  though, but but you know, why don't we go ahead?
• 46:20
  It is now 745. So why don't we go ahead and
• 46:22
  bring on Sean Sprague from the tri-state sprints.
• 46:27
  So again, Oh, I did it again here we go.
• 46:29
  I just. There we go.
• 46:31
  But so welcome, Sean to the to the Monday night Rewind.
• 46:36
  I know obviously we had John Boy Hotchkiss on here.
• 46:38
  I have a couple of your drivers who I will be getting scheduled
• 46:41
  over the next couple weeks to bring them on so we can keep
• 46:44
  tri-state in the conversation. But you are the voice, you know
• 46:50
  of the tri-state Sprint. So but with that you have a also
• 46:55
  lengthy career and announcing and doing a lot of things at a
• 46:58
  racetrack. So as you know, you're on when
• 47:00
  we were with Bree, you've watched the show before.
• 47:02
  You know what we do. So you know the softball
• 47:04
  question that we always start our conversation office.
• 47:07
  So for those watching who may not know who Sean Sprague is or
• 47:10
  heard you on the mic or they may have heard you, but they're
• 47:14
  like, that's what he looks like. Because that happens too, right?
• 47:16
  Like they're race card. He'll come up to me.
• 47:18
  I'm like, you're not in a race suit.
• 47:20
  I don't know what you look like. And now I do, but usually have a
• 47:25
  helmet in a suit on and you're not next to your car.
• 47:27
  So. But anyway, so who is Sean's
• 47:30
  break? So thank you, Louis, Thank you
• 47:33
  Buju for inviting me to come on this.
• 47:35
  This is great. I'm I'm happy to be here.
• 47:38
  I'm Sean Sprague. I've been announcing since 2007.
• 47:41
  Prior to that, I started working in the concession stand.
• 47:45
  In 2005. Jim Leisure rated like came up
• 47:48
  to me in the grandstands at Corrigan and said, you want a
• 47:51
  job. And I said sure.
• 47:53
  So he put me in the concession stand, flipped burgers, made
• 47:56
  popcorn, hot dogs, elephant sticks and French fries, all
• 48:00
  that stuff. And then, you know, a couple of
• 48:03
  years went by and I'm like, I missed the racing.
• 48:06
  You know, I got a 15 minute meal break to go out and watch, but
• 48:09
  then I had to go back and cook. So I was like, you know, I want
• 48:12
  to, I wonder how somebody becomes an announcer.
• 48:15
  I got really curious, went to Big Ed in Lowe's, who was the
• 48:18
  voice at Corrigan at the time. Spartan Speedway, as some of you
• 48:22
  guys remember that from the early 2000s and beyond that of
• 48:26
  course, Lansing Speedway celebrated the 70th anniversary
• 48:28
  yesterday, which was pretty cool.
• 48:30
  But anyway, asked them at the awards banquet in 2006, how does
• 48:36
  a guy become an announcer? And he said, well, if you're
• 48:38
  serious, call me New Year's Day in 2007 and we'll talk.
• 48:42
  We actually talked for about I think half an hour to an hour.
• 48:46
  And he says, you know, you're giving up your summer.
• 48:47
  I said, I already am. I'm working in the concession
• 48:50
  stand. So out of the concession stand
• 48:53
  up to the tower at at Corrigan. It was our opening night and my
• 49:00
  opening night. I'll never forget it because
• 49:01
  Stan Perry passed away on my opening night.
• 49:04
  So that was tough there. But the Outlaw Super Late Models
• 49:08
  and then we went to Springport the following night because that
• 49:11
  was our sister track. Jim Leisure owned both those
• 49:13
  race tracks at the time. So it came time for qualifying.
• 49:18
  Big Ed wanted a smoke break, hands me his notes, his he's got
• 49:22
  this big huge like handwritten notepad, can't even read out of
• 49:27
  it really, because the writing was really small, trying to fit
• 49:29
  drivers in there. So I'm reading off the driver
• 49:31
  information, announcing lap times.
• 49:34
  And I thought, you know, I told myself, I thought the deal was I
• 49:37
  wasn't going to get on the mic until a couple years from now.
• 49:41
  And he said, dude, you got the gift.
• 49:42
  He said, I, I knew I knew you had, I knew you knew what you
• 49:45
  were doing. Just he said, I had it in mind.
• 49:48
  I was just going to throw you on the mic.
• 49:49
  So that's been going on since 2007 and as Lewis mentioned, I
• 49:54
  decided last year to go into semi retirement and leave
• 49:58
  working at race tracks full time.
• 49:59
  I've raised, I've worked at Angola Motorsports Speedway,
• 50:02
  I-96 Speedway to a little dirt. Oh jeez.
• 50:07
  Went with Great Lakes Super Mini Cups announced with them for a
• 50:09
  little while. That was my technically my first
• 50:11
  gig was with them. Announced at Birch Run Speedway,
• 50:16
  Auto City, Toledo, Flat Rock. Announced at Angola with them as
• 50:22
  well, of course. Corrigan, Springport.
• 50:25
  God, I've been all over the place.
• 50:28
  So you get around. I get around.
• 50:30
  Yeah, I think we just talked about that.
• 50:35
  But I mean, obviously, you know, to have a a career that long
• 50:39
  right and announcing and to be still, you know, doing it even
• 50:43
  in semi retirement, I mean, you have to know something, right?
• 50:47
  And, and one thing that I've always been impressed with is
• 50:50
  the system that you've employed, you know, with your iPad and
• 50:55
  walking around. So, you know, we've had Will
• 50:58
  Greenwald or Green, yeah, Greenwald on here.
• 51:01
  We've had, you know, Jeremy Wardinger.
• 51:03
  We've had obviously Buju announced a little bit a couple
• 51:06
  times this year at new pairs. We've had Frank Grasco, Wayne
• 51:11
  Bond, right. We've had a lot of announcers on
• 51:13
  here already. And so for you and Joel, you
• 51:17
  know, don't want to forget Joel, you know, but for you, you know,
• 51:20
  when Joel first got the gig at Kalamazoo, full time gig, right
• 51:25
  when everything went down, you know, I had suggested like,
• 51:29
  well, you know, Sean has a really awesome system, you know,
• 51:32
  where you walk around the pit. So if you want to talk a little
• 51:34
  bit about like what you do, cuz even April is on here, I know
• 51:38
  they're recovering from a really stellar and long night of front
• 51:42
  wheel drive racing at Corrigan last night.
• 51:45
  I, I felt, I felt bad a little bit for them because I'm like,
• 51:49
  man, you know, I bragged up how quick everything goes and none
• 51:53
  of that was quick with the front wheel drives.
• 51:55
  But you know, they did get a first time winner for the third
• 51:58
  year in a row, if I remember correctly, with Ethan Williams
• 52:00
  winning. So, and obviously bigger money
• 52:03
  was on the line. I just, there's a lot of weird
• 52:06
  stuff happened that usually doesn't happen at Corrigan.
• 52:08
  But beyond that, I, so I know they're recovering because we
• 52:10
  all got home late. And but if you want to talk a
• 52:13
  little bit about your system, what you do what and how you do
• 52:17
  it when you're going around the pit area to get to know drivers,
• 52:19
  because April said this man is the Rain Man of racing.
• 52:22
  His memory of racism, drivers names and cars is beyond
• 52:26
  impressive. And that's something that, you
• 52:28
  know, you're purposeful about that.
• 52:30
  So peel the onion back for us. Absolutely.
• 52:34
  Hi, April, first of all, my sister-in-law said that when she
• 52:38
  first met me, she called me the rain manner racing too.
• 52:42
  For me, it's all about the details.
• 52:44
  It's all in the details. Honestly, I could, I can walk up
• 52:46
  to a car and tell you just by looking at it who had it last
• 52:51
  and so on. It's it's the little things.
• 52:54
  That's what you got to keep an eye on, especially as an
• 52:57
  announcer. The details, the eye is in the
• 53:00
  details, everything. But Louis, as you mentioned,
• 53:03
  yes, I do have a system. What I do is I like to meet the
• 53:06
  new drivers first. They're they're their first
• 53:08
  priority to me. Any new driver, I walk up,
• 53:12
  introduce myself. I'm not afraid to go in the hall
• 53:14
  or either and ask which one of you guys is the driver.
• 53:17
  And usually you know, the whole crew.
• 53:19
  It's great. They point at the driver and
• 53:21
  I'll introduce myself and I'll say Sean Sprague.
• 53:23
  I'm the announcer here at the track or now announcer for
• 53:25
  tri-state Sprints. I just got to get some
• 53:27
  information from you real quick. It won't take very long.
• 53:30
  Ask first and last name, hometown sponsor, starting with
• 53:34
  their biggest sponsor. Go on down from there now,
• 53:38
  Michigan Cup This year, since I am announcing Cup, I will ask
• 53:42
  accolades from the season that they want mentioned.
• 53:45
  Rookie of the Year championship, what they're basically what
• 53:50
  their career looked like. You know, like how many
• 53:52
  championship have got in the past.
• 53:54
  That's the stuff I want to know because if we're under a long
• 53:56
  yellow, that's stuff I want to share with the crowd to make
• 53:59
  them, get them engaged a little bit even.
• 54:01
  What do you do for a living? Does a lot of people think that
• 54:05
  race car drivers, that's all they do is drive a car, which
• 54:09
  not true. I have a day job myself.
• 54:11
  I work at Michigan State University as a maintenance
• 54:14
  worker at Shaw Hall. So we all have day jobs.
• 54:18
  Well, most of us have day jobs, But you know, that's, that's the
• 54:22
  things that's a fan wants to know.
• 54:24
  That's what they're curious about, you know, and I'm, I'm
• 54:28
  basically, I'm going to say what my mentor said, what Big Ed
• 54:30
  said. I'm a fan who picked up a
• 54:32
  microphone. That's it.
• 54:34
  I like to think of it as I'm sitting next to you and I'm
• 54:36
  explaining to you what's going on.
• 54:40
  Dan Roy Greenwald say something like that too.
• 54:43
  Like pretty similar, like a fan who picked someone said
• 54:46
  something something not exact but similar and fans.
• 54:49
  And talk to them. Yep, and I thought that, you
• 54:52
  know, that's pretty cool because again, you know, obviously Sean,
• 54:54
  you know, and Boozer knows this too, right.
• 54:56
  Racing, short track racing especially has a lot of die hard
• 54:59
  fans, right, Die hard too, you know, you know, rain, sleet,
• 55:03
  snow, shine. They're like the mailman.
• 55:05
  They're going to be there, right.
• 55:07
  But then, you know, we are trying to get into a world too
• 55:10
  where they're not only are there casual fans, but we're trying to
• 55:13
  get new fans, right. And sometimes new fans come into
• 55:17
  the track. May not they may not know what's
• 55:20
  in front of them, right. So you know, while and I know,
• 55:24
  and I've been next to these fans for sometimes they dislike when
• 55:26
  announcers explaining something like you tell us that every
• 55:28
  single week. And it's like in my head, it's
• 55:31
  like, well, but someone here might be hearing it for the
• 55:35
  first time, right? They might they don't know that
• 55:38
  you've said it 9000 other times prior to this, right?
• 55:41
  They're hearing it for the first time.
• 55:43
  So for you, you know, what is it that you know when you're
• 55:47
  pointing out a race, when you're announcing a race, what is it
• 55:50
  that you're really looking for? Are you following the leader?
• 55:54
  Are you following the action? Are you trying to put little
• 55:56
  tidbits in there while you're following you know the car
• 55:59
  you're talking about? Like what is it that is your
• 56:02
  style? So what I like as a fan growing
• 56:07
  up, I always like to see the big battles going on 345 wide, you
• 56:12
  know, So if you ever hear me on the mic, I will say we got three
• 56:15
  wide action going into turn 3. So I want those fans to look at
• 56:19
  turn three. If I tell them to look at turn
• 56:21
  3, I want you to look there because that's where the racing
• 56:24
  is happening. It's not.
• 56:25
  I mean, if a leader's pulling away, I try to, I keep an eye on
• 56:29
  the leader, but I'm also watching the I'm scanning the
• 56:31
  track too, to see where other battles are going on just so I
• 56:34
  can stay ahead of the action. And also to give the fans, you
• 56:38
  know, like I said, it's all about the fans and get keeping
• 56:41
  them engaged in the program. The minute you lose them,
• 56:44
  they're gone. That's it.
• 56:45
  So, so for me, it's looking for those battles, those hard fought
• 56:50
  battles. And honestly, yesterday they
• 56:52
  were all over their accordion. For the Motörhead, Oh my
• 56:56
  goodness, I don't know how Chris kept.
• 56:58
  Everything straight last night, but he did a great job.
• 57:01
  But man, the battles were just all over the place and it was a
• 57:05
  great show. And and like I said, as as an
• 57:08
  announcer, I'll raise my voice, I'll get loud just to just to
• 57:12
  make sure that those fans are looking where I want them to
• 57:14
  look. It's kind of like when you said
• 57:17
  when you get loud, then you got the dog barking at the same
• 57:19
  time. I'm like, it's like you're like
• 57:22
  you're like, you know, sister actor on cue.
• 57:25
  You're getting ready to direct the band there because you went
• 57:27
  like this and then the barking started.
• 57:29
  But yeah, but you know, so with that, right, obviously in semi
• 57:34
  retirement you stayed busy as an announcer and and helping with,
• 57:38
  you know, managing the tri-state sprints.
• 57:41
  And so you've gotten to announce the most competitive asphalt is
• 57:45
  Sprint car racing around right now.
• 57:46
  And so why don't we? Yeah, Yeah.
• 57:50
  Did I say it right? Hold on the most.
• 57:52
  I did say it right, Yeah. I.
• 57:53
  Said you did. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, wait, now I'm
• 57:57
  reading the shirt. You made me think second, but
• 58:00
  but with that, why don't you know, if you want to talk a
• 58:02
  little bit about what it's been like for you?
• 58:04
  Because obviously, you know, they came to Springport in 2024
• 58:09
  and you know, they put on an incredible show and I think they
• 58:12
  just had a few stops that year. Last year rain kind of impacted
• 58:16
  some of their shows, but you joined on and you helped them a
• 58:20
  little bit and then this year you just really focused on them.
• 58:23
  So what has it been like for you to see not only the growth of
• 58:26
  the the Tri-state Sprints, but then competitive show?
• 58:28
  Because if anyone who's watched it at Kalamazoo or watched it at
• 58:32
  Corrigan Oil, the couple times they've been there, they're
• 58:35
  they're that's true. They're competitives.
• 58:38
  And so if you want to talk a little bit about that and then
• 58:40
  I'm going to talk after you when you're done answering that, Buju
• 58:44
  will take over from there. All right.
• 58:46
  Sounds good. Yeah, No, it's.
• 58:48
  It's been great. I've been working for John Boy
• 58:51
  technically since he started the series when I could.
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  Obviously, you know, I was at Springport and Corrigan, but
• 58:58
  hopefully the first year that's all they have.
• 59:00
  Springport, Oregon. So it worked out great.
• 59:02
  To be a part of the inaugural season for me as an announcer
• 59:06
  was absolutely humbling. I mean, how cool is that?
• 59:09
  I get to announce a brand new series, you know?
• 59:12
  And then helping John Boy when I could.
• 59:15
  I've been working behind the scenes helping John, like I
• 59:19
  said, when I, when I could, you know, I told him, I told John, I
• 59:22
  said, unfortunately Springport and Corrigan are my primary
• 59:24
  focuses. And then of course, last year
• 59:27
  switching gears and going to Auto City to race direct and
• 59:30
  announce at Corrigan. But again, still helping John
• 59:33
  when I had the time and when I could put stuff together, put
• 59:36
  some media stuff together for him and so on.
• 59:38
  But but yeah, this year, what a great year.
• 59:44
  Definitely, definitely one of our best in my opinion.
• 59:47
  And I couldn't think of a better series to work for, a better guy
• 59:50
  to work for. I love working for John.
• 59:51
  John is really great to work for.
• 59:54
  But yeah, I mean, running, have a super modified light sprints
• 59:57
  and 410 sprints running together, but running a
• 1:00:01
  competitive rule package that levels the playing field so
• 1:00:04
  everybody has an equal shot. I mean, we didn't.
• 1:00:07
  Well, we did have a repeat winner, but you know, it's going
• 1:00:11
  to happen. But you know, with our series,
• 1:00:14
  it is so great. To talk to a different winner
• 1:00:17
  each week and at a different venue, going to Whittemore,
• 1:00:21
  Anderson, it was just amazing to step outgoing.
• 1:00:25
  But going back to Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo is that one of my
• 1:00:28
  favorite tracks. Of course, going home to
• 1:00:31
  Corrigan twice this year. That was that was great too.
• 1:00:34
  But you know, I've I thank John. Profusely for the.
• 1:00:39
  Opportunity and I love working for him, Dave and Dora.
• 1:00:43
  How of course they come on board.
• 1:00:44
  They're helping us now as well. We're getting momentum.
• 1:00:48
  We're not. We're not slowing down, we're
• 1:00:49
  not stopping. We're out there looking for new
• 1:00:52
  venues. Like John said before, we're
• 1:00:54
  looking, we're searching. We want some different and I
• 1:00:59
  know our drivers are on board with us too.
• 1:01:00
  They want to go to different places.
• 1:01:02
  So we're always open to searching for new tracks to go
• 1:01:05
  to, new venues and of course venues that want us to come
• 1:01:09
  back, of course we're going to take them on too.
• 1:01:13
  So, as Lewis mentioned, I've dipped.
• 1:01:15
  My toe into announcement a little bit.
• 1:01:17
  I don't consider myself an announcer.
• 1:01:18
  I consider myself a field announcer.
• 1:01:20
  So what's what would be your tip to somebody like new who's like
• 1:01:23
  I said just just starting to figure this stuff out.
• 1:01:26
  I think I'm 4 gigs in at this point.
• 1:01:28
  OK, well. Welcome to the.
• 1:01:30
  Brotherhood, first of all, thank you.
• 1:01:32
  And pretty much that's what it is.
• 1:01:34
  With. Me, I don't, you know, it's when
• 1:01:40
  I don't, I don't feel like I have an.
• 1:01:42
  Ego on me. A lot of announcers do,
• 1:01:45
  especially when you travel, there's going to be a few
• 1:01:47
  announcers that'll that'll kind of like, I'm going to say like
• 1:01:51
  like pee on their territory, like dogs.
• 1:01:54
  Do you know, like this is my this is my tower, you know, but
• 1:01:58
  I have, I've witnessed that before.
• 1:02:01
  So I know what it's like. But with you just starting out,
• 1:02:06
  you know, do your homework, study your drivers, get to know
• 1:02:10
  your promoter you're working for, your general manager, work
• 1:02:13
  alongside them, your race director as well.
• 1:02:16
  Get to know the rules. Rules are big.
• 1:02:19
  Know the rules, live them, know what's going on.
• 1:02:23
  And then so you can also tell the fans too.
• 1:02:25
  But also make sure you're not giving out false information
• 1:02:28
  either. I've heard that so many times it
• 1:02:30
  makes me cringe. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
• 1:02:33
  Study the names of the. Drivers, you know.
• 1:02:35
  And that's why I talked to the drivers because they will tell
• 1:02:38
  you your first, their first and last name.
• 1:02:40
  If you have to spell it phonetically, don't spell it the
• 1:02:43
  way that they tell you it's spelled.
• 1:02:46
  Spell it so, you know, I mean, it's just your notes, right?
• 1:02:49
  No one's going to see it but you.
• 1:02:50
  No one's going to know but you the correct information.
• 1:02:56
  It's crucial. Make sure it's all correct.
• 1:02:59
  Make sure your IS are dotted T's are crossed.
• 1:03:02
  You know, the last thing you want is a fan bombarding the
• 1:03:06
  tower and saying Buju, that's wrong.
• 1:03:08
  And I'm going to tell you why that's wrong.
• 1:03:10
  You want to make sure those fans are having a good time as well.
• 1:03:13
  You're a DJ, you're a chaplain as you pray before the races.
• 1:03:17
  You are master of ceremonies. There are there's a lot of
• 1:03:21
  things with announcers, your social media too.
• 1:03:24
  You know, you're the you're the face and the voice of the track.
• 1:03:28
  So keep in mind, and I'm going to say this for anybody out
• 1:03:31
  there, keep in mind who your audience is and who's watching
• 1:03:34
  and who's listening as you never know, never pulse anything
• 1:03:39
  political, anything like that. I've seen it, I've seen it
• 1:03:43
  happen where people lose their jobs over it.
• 1:03:45
  It's not worth it. Just watch them afar, sit in the
• 1:03:48
  stands and watch them the fence as to what's going on.
• 1:03:51
  But at the same time, if you don't like something, defend it
• 1:03:54
  respectfully, not disrespectfully.
• 1:03:58
  Watch your tone. Watch your.
• 1:03:59
  Language. Goes a long way.
• 1:04:03
  What do you think the? Biggest challenge is as an
• 1:04:05
  announcer. You covered a lot of them there.
• 1:04:07
  What's the biggest one? Well, the biggest the.
• 1:04:10
  Biggest one I would have to say is disqualification of a driver.
• 1:04:19
  Yeah, the. Friends and family are all
• 1:04:22
  around you. And then you get, you have the
• 1:04:24
  headset on, you have the radio, or you get to tap on the
• 1:04:27
  shoulder from the race director and say that's not our winner,
• 1:04:29
  and here's why that's not our winner.
• 1:04:30
  And you have to tell the crowd what happened.
• 1:04:33
  Yeah, that's the hardest. Because everybody's.
• 1:04:36
  All excited and emotions are high.
• 1:04:38
  Everybody's like, yeah, we won. No, you didn't, and here's why.
• 1:04:42
  Because you did that. Yeah, we.
• 1:04:45
  We had one of those, didn't we, Louis?
• 1:04:46
  Yeah. And then we.
• 1:04:48
  Got yelled at for it. Not by not by the track.
• 1:04:51
  But Lewis got in trouble. Yeah, not.
• 1:04:54
  By, not from. People at the.
• 1:04:55
  Track. But as you're describing them
• 1:04:56
  like Boosie did this his second time out, the second or third
• 1:05:01
  time out. That was a rough.
• 1:05:02
  One the race. Sean, the race director turned
• 1:05:05
  me and goes, well, we're going to have to DQ him outside.
• 1:05:07
  Like what do I do right? Let's talk when that happens.
• 1:05:12
  That's. Interrupt, but I'm.
• 1:05:13
  Like Boosie already did that. He could check mark that.
• 1:05:15
  So see, Boosie, you did the hardest thing.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah. There you go, Buju.
• 1:05:19
  All right. Get that out of the way down
• 1:05:21
  there. That's right, RIP the Band-Aid
• 1:05:22
  off. And then last one before I throw
• 1:05:25
  it back to Lewis as a passionate race fan.
• 1:05:27
  From a fellow from a passionate race fan to a fellow passionate
• 1:05:29
  race fan. First race track memory.
• 1:05:37
  Man, that is a tough one. Oh boy.
• 1:05:40
  What was your first track? Man, that's what's that Corrigan
• 1:05:44
  was your first. Track I assume.
• 1:05:47
  No, no. Springport.
• 1:05:51
  Springport was Michigan cop first ever.
• 1:05:55
  I was there in a snowsuit in a car seat.
• 1:05:58
  My godfather Thompson was driving a modified.
• 1:06:00
  He was one of the first cars on track out there when the track
• 1:06:03
  was brand new in 1989. So I guess I'd say that's my
• 1:06:07
  first memory. Don't really remember it, but
• 1:06:09
  you know, like I said out there in a car seat in a snowsuit
• 1:06:12
  watching Michigan Cup, that's a good and that's good enough.
• 1:06:16
  And I'm, I'm excited for Michigan Cup weekend coming up
• 1:06:20
  get to announce there and I got to thank Donnie Ritter and Dave
• 1:06:24
  Miller for the opportunity and also Chris Foby is also going to
• 1:06:27
  be joining me in the tower. So Chris and I will be bringing
• 1:06:29
  the action. Really looking forward to
• 1:06:32
  Michigan Cup 37 now coming up October 2nd through the force.
• 1:06:37
  Make sure you are there. Hopefully we'll see all
• 1:06:40
  trackside at Springport and that's.
• 1:06:44
  You know, with. Springport.
• 1:06:45
  Obviously coming back, there's a lot of excitement around that.
• 1:06:48
  And I noticed in a little ways, I mean, you and Chris have kind
• 1:06:50
  of followed each other in a way, right where, you know, Chris was
• 1:06:54
  at Springport. Then he went.
• 1:06:56
  To Owosso you went back to Springport, then you're at
• 1:06:59
  Corgan oil. You left court, you know Corgan
• 1:07:01
  oil. He you know, he went to Corgan
• 1:07:03
  oil. Like, you know, it's kind of
• 1:07:04
  been like a you know, follow each other a little bit.
• 1:07:06
  So now, you know, you get to share the same booth at the same
• 1:07:09
  well, maybe not same time, like, you know, you guys got to figure
• 1:07:12
  out what that looks like. But you know, it's one of those
• 1:07:14
  that again, you know, to you shared the mic, you know, at
• 1:07:18
  Corgan earlier this year with you obviously doing the Tri
• 1:07:20
  States and he did the rest of the program.
• 1:07:22
  So you've been in the same tower same time, and now you both get
• 1:07:26
  to call to action. And so so that's pretty
• 1:07:29
  exciting. And I know there's a lot of
• 1:07:30
  buzz. I mean, even, you know, not only
• 1:07:32
  does Buju, did you know that Super Shoe is still on?
• 1:07:35
  Did you know that? OK, yeah, I heard too.
• 1:07:39
  But Sean, we had to address a rumor at the start of the show,
• 1:07:43
  you know, because right now there's people messaging going
• 1:07:46
  why? You know, why Super Shoe cancel?
• 1:07:48
  I heard Super Shoe cancel, which is so false.
• 1:07:50
  It's not even not even 1% true. Tina Luce is working butt off,
• 1:07:55
  but I know Michigan cop likewise Ryan warning is doing a lot of
• 1:07:59
  the campsites and all that. And from everything Donnie has
• 1:08:01
  said is that it's that's almost packed to that almost every spot
• 1:08:05
  or every reserve spot from 2024 is already taken.
• 1:08:10
  They're already claimed and they're working on stuff.
• 1:08:12
  So there's a lot of buzz around Michigan Cup right now, you
• 1:08:16
  know, a lot of buzz about Super Shoe, but I always describe
• 1:08:19
  Super Shoe as a, a party where there's some racing and then
• 1:08:23
  Michigan Cop is like a family reunion with racing.
• 1:08:26
  You know, it's just a 2 totally different vibes.
• 1:08:29
  And it's just funny because Donnie's over both of them now
• 1:08:32
  and but it's still two different vibes.
• 1:08:34
  And so I know we're all excited to get back to Spring Port and
• 1:08:40
  and see that track back up and running.
• 1:08:42
  You know, Lucian, I've talked about not a lot of tracks are
• 1:08:44
  are opening new ones at least. And the and you know, we almost
• 1:08:48
  saw Springport, but now it's back and you know, it's a
• 1:08:51
  fantastic track. So, so with that, I know, I know
• 1:08:56
  John Boy has already, you know, talked about getting a show over
• 1:08:59
  at Springport. Obviously he wants to get back
• 1:09:01
  to Corrigan. He even messaged me.
• 1:09:03
  I don't know if Brian Kusabe was on tonight, but he messaged me
• 1:09:06
  that Grundy track looked really good.
• 1:09:08
  How can we get over there? And so, you know, after me going
• 1:09:12
  and covering Grundy County Speedway and Morris, IL, I've
• 1:09:15
  had a lot of people message saying, Hey, when's that Bahama
• 1:09:18
  brackets you talk about? Hey, when and like that was part
• 1:09:20
  of the goal of me going to Grundy, right, is to put Grundy
• 1:09:24
  in my ecosystem so that way people can see another awesome
• 1:09:27
  track and it's the only asphalt track in Illinois.
• 1:09:30
  So you could literally say the most competitive asphalt track
• 1:09:33
  racing in Illinois and you would be right because it's the only
• 1:09:36
  asphalt track in Illinois. So no one can prove you wrong.
• 1:09:38
  There's you know, I mean, you're not going to race at Chicago
• 1:09:41
  Lane. Let's just be real and and it'll
• 1:09:43
  be cool. But yeah, yeah, probably not
• 1:09:45
  going. To happen.
• 1:09:46
  And you know, but other than that, that's where I appreciate
• 1:09:50
  you coming on tonight too, Sean and talking all about not only
• 1:09:53
  your career, but you know, Tri states, because I know you've
• 1:09:56
  been obviously working at Michigan State University.
• 1:09:58
  You've already had a long day and doing all that at MSU.
• 1:10:02
  Do they put extra seconds on the clock at all anywhere Not to my.
• 1:10:08
  Knowledge, no. So they they follow the.
• 1:10:10
  Rule of Time, Yeah, as far as I know, yes.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah. They don't in Ann Arbor.
• 1:10:15
  But but anyways, yeah, obviously, you know, I'm not a
• 1:10:20
  Sparty fan because Notre Dame I think plays MSU this year, if I
• 1:10:24
  remember right. But or, or is it next year?
• 1:10:27
  It's they're coming up. But but other than that, right,
• 1:10:31
  I anytime, you know, Sparty and the Wolverines are on the field,
• 1:10:35
  I will always side with Sparty. So go green.
• 1:10:39
  So go green, go white, right? But other than that, again,
• 1:10:42
  thank you for, you know, coming on tonight and and talking, you
• 1:10:46
  know, your like I said, your career.
• 1:10:50
  How's that cream puff and D schedule?
• 1:10:52
  I mean, we'll take what we can get, but you know, Notre Dame.
• 1:10:59
  As long as they're. In the College Football Playoff
• 1:11:00
  and finish in the top 12. It doesn't matter Wolverine or
• 1:11:04
  Michigan still almost lost to a Mac school.
• 1:11:06
  So I was hoping for it though, because I how often do we hear
• 1:11:10
  about Northern Illinois? And it's like, OK, if if
• 1:11:13
  Michigan, I mean, we didn't lose to App State.
• 1:11:15
  Let's remember that, which was like an FCS school at the time.
• 1:11:17
  So, you know, just remember, we might have lost to Northern
• 1:11:21
  Illinois, but we didn't lose Appalachian State.
• 1:11:24
  So Michigan fans really don't have much to stand on other than
• 1:11:28
  when they're stolen championships from a few years
• 1:11:31
  ago when they had to seal everyone's signs, you know, to
• 1:11:34
  do that. But it's funny how they all went
• 1:11:36
  off to the NFL or got fired. So anyways, again, thank you for
• 1:11:42
  coming on tonight. And I know we will see you at
• 1:11:45
  Michigan Cup here in a few weeks.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, no, I definitely have one more person to think that's.
• 1:11:50
  My wife. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:51
  Oh yeah, She she. Lets me do this.
• 1:11:55
  You know, I was, I was in racing, she was never in racing.
• 1:11:59
  You know, I brought her into this crazy world.
• 1:12:02
  So so I got to thank her. She lets me do all this, lets me
• 1:12:05
  go away on the weekends. I'm not away as often as I used
• 1:12:09
  to be, but I definitely got to thank her.
• 1:12:12
  Without her, I you know, I don't know where I'd be honestly.
• 1:12:16
  So without her support, it's it means a lot so well, and that's,
• 1:12:21
  I mean, you're busy. You guys are always.
• 1:12:22
  Doing something somewhere, right?
• 1:12:23
  I mean, you don't live a slow life.
• 1:12:25
  I know you've had a lot of exchange students, you know, be
• 1:12:27
  a part of your family. And we have you, and we have one
• 1:12:30
  now. So, you know, Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  And you get to introduce. Them not only to racing, but I
• 1:12:35
  know you go to sports games, you keep them very involved.
• 1:12:37
  So and it takes special people to have like exchange students
• 1:12:41
  and you know, or go through adoption to do different things.
• 1:12:44
  I mean, that's just not that's not easy for anyone.
• 1:12:46
  So, so again, you know, just keep being you and doing that.
• 1:12:49
  And I know as an announcer, I always, I always cite you when
• 1:12:54
  I'm talking with announcers like, well, Sean has a really
• 1:12:56
  cool system or Sean has a really awesome system.
• 1:12:59
  And I know like when you're talking with Buju in his notes,
• 1:13:01
  if you saw all of his postcards and note cards and all the
• 1:13:04
  things that he has, I really wanted to mess him up the one
• 1:13:07
  day. And I'm like, no, I won't do
• 1:13:09
  that to him. And it's so tempting as they're
• 1:13:12
  laid out, though, I just, but I didn't, I was kind.
• 1:13:15
  I walked away. There you go.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, don't chose. I get an altar.
• 1:13:19
  System, I mean if you do that. We get lost.
• 1:13:22
  Yeah, they they were. It was too nice.
• 1:13:26
  I'm like, it needs to be crooked a little bit, but I'm like, if
• 1:13:28
  anyone else did it, it wasn't. It definitely wasn't me.
• 1:13:30
  I had the temptation and then I'm like, I'm an adult, not do
• 1:13:35
  that. But but for anyone watching,
• 1:13:38
  because we did miss the top of the hour reminder, you know,
• 1:13:42
  we've not only we've been on with Bree Brady, who you can
• 1:13:44
  listen to earlier in our show. Once we're done live, you can
• 1:13:47
  always go back and listen on Facebook for free.
• 1:13:49
  You can also listen on YouTube for free.
• 1:13:51
  And if you want to listen in the car on your way somewhere or at
• 1:13:54
  work, you can download it on Spotify.
• 1:13:57
  Or if you don't have Spotify, which is also free to get and
• 1:13:59
  you you can go to iHeartRadio. We have a we're getting a quite
• 1:14:03
  a following on Spotify, but we also have some who listen to
• 1:14:07
  Amazon Music, Apple podcast and iHeartRadio.
• 1:14:09
  So wherever you listen to podcast, you can find us there.
• 1:14:13
  So Brie Brady started about 10 minutes into our show.
• 1:14:15
  We were 5 minutes late with her and she went about 45 minutes
• 1:14:19
  into the show. And then we brought on Sean
• 1:14:21
  Sprague, who's been about the last 30 minutes of the show.
• 1:14:24
  We got him on about 8:45 or 7:45 and it's not 815.
• 1:14:28
  So we've had him in that time frame.
• 1:14:30
  So if you miss any part of the interview with Sean, talk about
• 1:14:33
  tri-state experiences, announcing again, once we're
• 1:14:35
  done being live, you can always go back and watch specific
• 1:14:38
  parts. And that would be the time stamp
• 1:14:40
  area to look for at the start of the interviews.
• 1:14:43
  But other than that, again, Sean, thank you so much for
• 1:14:45
  joining us tonight. And now we get to make Buju
• 1:14:47
  sweat a little bit. So well, Buju, I look forward to
• 1:14:51
  seeing you hopefully at Springport so we can meet in
• 1:14:53
  person. Yeah, I'm trying to make it.
• 1:14:55
  That's the. That's the.
• 1:14:56
  Goal is to get up there. I've never been to Springport,
• 1:14:58
  never been to Mission Cup, obviously, so that, that is
• 1:15:00
  awesome. Yeah, we we'd love to have you.
• 1:15:02
  So come on out, man. Yeah, sounds like a plan.
• 1:15:04
  All right, well, again. Thank you much, Sean for
• 1:15:06
  joining. Us and now like I said, we get
• 1:15:09
  to make make boozoo sweat a little bit because it's our
• 1:15:11
  debut of the rewind roulette where the wheel decides what we
• 1:15:17
  get to talk about. And so let me go ahead and click
• 1:15:20
  share screen. In fact, let me go let me get
• 1:15:25
  full screen here. Oh, hold on, let me do it this
• 1:15:29
  way. It's better to do it this way.
• 1:15:31
  So we're going to share, screen share.
• 1:15:36
  There's like 4. Buttons to click here.
• 1:15:38
  All. Right.
• 1:15:39
  Can you see it? Nope, not yet.
• 1:15:43
  Oh, is it not sharing? Oh.
• 1:15:45
  Hold on. There we go.
• 1:15:48
  Is it sharing? There we go, man.
• 1:15:50
  I am. I'm.
• 1:15:50
  Not doing really well. Tonight with all the buttons,
• 1:15:52
  but obviously I'm not also thinking super clearly either.
• 1:15:55
  But but let's go ahead. And it even has music.
• 1:16:02
  It's spinning and seeing. The one you didn't want.
• 1:16:07
  All right, boy. Oh.
• 1:16:08
  Mount Rushmore 2 point. O who are your?
• 1:16:11
  Top 4 drivers from 2026. So I know you had that was the
• 1:16:16
  one that you're hoping to not get.
• 1:16:18
  That's the problem. You said it out loud.
• 1:16:19
  It's like when when someone says this field goal kicker hasn't
• 1:16:22
  missed a field goal and 900 tries and all of a sudden the
• 1:16:26
  900 first try wide left game lost.
• 1:16:31
  Wow. So your top four and it.
• 1:16:34
  Can be any track, any series. It doesn't have to be one class.
• 1:16:38
  We will have class specifics in the future, so this one will be
• 1:16:42
  eliminated, but there will be another Mount Rushmore topic for
• 1:16:46
  the next time. So, so wow, talk about on the
• 1:16:50
  spot. All right.
• 1:16:51
  Here we go. Doesn't have to.
• 1:16:54
  Be in any order either, so the first name doesn't have to mean
• 1:16:57
  that they're #1 nobody knows who's the number one president
• 1:17:00
  is on Mount Rushmore. We just know there's four faces
• 1:17:03
  who all had, you know, obviously important things in American
• 1:17:06
  history. And you know, so for you it's
• 1:17:09
  who stands out in 2026 and in short, track racing in general.
• 1:17:16
  So obviously within my window this is going.
• 1:17:18
  To have to be for what I'm informed on.
• 1:17:20
  And it would be hard not to put Tyler Rorg on there in any year,
• 1:17:23
  but just as successful in this one as he has been for the last
• 1:17:28
  quite a few. So hard not to put Tyler Rorg on
• 1:17:31
  there. And then it gets harder, man.
• 1:17:35
  Let me think. I would have to put.
• 1:17:41
  Seneca on. There for coming back.
• 1:17:44
  And getting a big win at the Clash, I think that was pretty
• 1:17:48
  monumental. And the the Mount Rushmore is a
• 1:17:51
  monument. So it is.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, we're. Going to put them on there.
• 1:17:55
  So that gives me. Two, we're halfway there.
• 1:17:58
  Cross flags, man. All right, so let me start
• 1:18:02
  thinking about the Street stocks.
• 1:18:04
  We talk about how competitive St. stocks are all the time.
• 1:18:06
  I started thinking about the big St.
• 1:18:08
  Stock races this year. Honestly, I'm going to put
• 1:18:13
  Andrew Devries on the. Mount Rushmore this year he has
• 1:18:16
  been bad fast everywhere he's gone.
• 1:18:17
  He won the V8 Open feature at South End this weekend, so
• 1:18:21
  another notch in his belt on the year and just bad fast
• 1:18:25
  everywhere he's gone. So give me Andrew Devries on my
• 1:18:27
  Mount Rushmore for the year and #4 last but not least, and tough
• 1:18:37
  Lewis, tough now I'm not. Now everybody's coming to mind.
• 1:18:41
  I got to just. Pick one of them.
• 1:18:43
  Yeah, you only get 4. They have not they've.
• 1:18:45
  Not added a president yet to the Rushmore.
• 1:18:49
  They've talked about many different options, but it's
• 1:18:51
  still only four. Tough.
• 1:18:57
  Well, if you want I can give a few names.
• 1:18:59
  And then you go forward a thing. Give me a second.
• 1:19:00
  Let me narrow it down here. Yeah, so.
• 1:19:04
  And again, anybody in the comments section, you're welcome
• 1:19:07
  to add your own names. You can get 4321, you know,
• 1:19:10
  whatever you want to give. I see David Howe is adding
• 1:19:14
  Quinton say same in from you know, he's a tri-state Sprint
• 1:19:18
  champion, their inaugural champion this year.
• 1:19:22
  So when I was thinking about my list and and how I would do my
• 1:19:26
  Mount Rushmore because it's however you define it too,
• 1:19:28
  right? It's however you want to
• 1:19:29
  recognize people. And so one name that definitely
• 1:19:32
  stood out to me is Colin Bozell because of his strong run that
• 1:19:37
  he had at Kalamazoo and at Galesburg this year where
• 1:19:42
  obviously, you know, he was winning a lot of features of
• 1:19:44
  doing that. But I also think too, it comes
• 1:19:46
  down to how he races. And he's usually not going to
• 1:19:50
  put someone in the wall. He's usually not going to go out
• 1:19:54
  and, you know, bump people around and do that kind of deal.
• 1:19:56
  So that's why I would put Colin. It's not just accolades but also
• 1:20:01
  how he is on the track as a driver, where in most cases he's
• 1:20:06
  very respectful and he's usually not going to do something dumb
• 1:20:10
  while he's on the track. So then after that, right, It it
• 1:20:14
  did become a little tougher. But then my second pick is
• 1:20:17
  Ronnie Maynard Junior. Yeah, so.
• 1:20:21
  With Ronnie Maynard. Junior, the reason I picked
• 1:20:24
  Ronnie again, you know, he hasn't been like dominant this
• 1:20:28
  year, right? Last year he was pretty dominant
• 1:20:30
  in the modified. He pretty much swept New Paris
• 1:20:32
  and all that. But again, I think it's how he
• 1:20:35
  carries himself in the pit area where he's at the track all the
• 1:20:38
  time. He's helping the boys, he's
• 1:20:40
  doing all of that. Obviously, he's a big mentor.
• 1:20:43
  He's had success on the grand stage of them all, anywhere that
• 1:20:47
  stage is located. And obviously he got a Sizzler
• 1:20:51
  win in a stacked field of modifieds.
• 1:20:54
  And he would be a front runner this Saturday at New Paris's
• 1:20:58
  championship night for the Trifecta Series, where somebody,
• 1:21:02
  three people get $5000 each at the end of the night for being
• 1:21:06
  the Trifecta champion. So Ronnie Maynard Junior was my
• 1:21:09
  second pick and then from there and.
• 1:21:13
  I obviously I. Cheated a little bit because I
• 1:21:14
  made the question, right. So, but it was still tough,
• 1:21:17
  right? Because I also, when I think
• 1:21:19
  about it today, obviously I was in a very different emotional
• 1:21:22
  state from when I came up with the idea yesterday driving home
• 1:21:25
  where then I thought, OK, you know, who really stands out to
• 1:21:30
  me that I feel like deserves that moment, right?
• 1:21:38
  There's that moment for this year, for what they did, what
• 1:21:41
  they overcame. And so this one may be a little
• 1:21:44
  surprising, but I've also thought about Hayley Bowl being
• 1:21:48
  on my Mount Rushmore, obviously rookie of the year at new Paris,
• 1:21:52
  champion at new Paris. But it was almost her journey as
• 1:21:56
  what stood out to me because again, with Art Mount Rushmore,
• 1:21:59
  right, obviously the the faces on there, they have accolades,
• 1:22:02
  they have reasons, but it's also what do they mean to American
• 1:22:06
  history and why we're honoring them and they're on there.
• 1:22:09
  And so with Haley Bull, I felt like the high and low of the
• 1:22:12
  season, not only with her dad having heart issues and other
• 1:22:17
  health issues going on, being in the hospital, but also staying
• 1:22:19
  grounded at the track, pushing through each time championship
• 1:22:23
  night, not going as planned, you know, blowing radiator, having
• 1:22:27
  different things still coming out, still finishing the race,
• 1:22:30
  coming in, you know, being nervous throughout the year, not
• 1:22:34
  really feeling the swag, right? But, you know, came on.
• 1:22:38
  And so I thought like, OK, if I had, you know, someone who I'd
• 1:22:41
  put on there who's not maybe a sexy name that people would
• 1:22:44
  pick, right? It's not the Tyler Rohrig's,
• 1:22:46
  it's not the Steve Needles, it's not the Phil Bozell's, it's not
• 1:22:50
  the right. It's not those names that always
• 1:22:54
  get picked because they're easy to pick, right?
• 1:22:56
  It's the names who you really have to think about because
• 1:22:58
  Colin Bozell was an easy pick, right?
• 1:23:00
  So it's like you got a challenge, right?
• 1:23:02
  You got to go beyond like, you know, if I were to define the
• 1:23:05
  season and I define grit, you win a championship, there's
• 1:23:08
  grit. Haley Bull has that grit, right,
• 1:23:12
  with her and getting that opportunity.
• 1:23:15
  And then and then I got to #4 and then I'm thinking, well,
• 1:23:20
  shitake mushrooms now, right? Because right, the people we're
• 1:23:25
  picking doesn't mean we think they're better than anyone.
• 1:23:28
  And it's like if I had to define this season.
• 1:23:32
  And so, you know, when I think about that and when I think
• 1:23:35
  about who stands out and how they stand out, I'm like, OK,
• 1:23:39
  who can? Be my 4th person.
• 1:23:41
  Who's kind of like that driver that I just see every week
• 1:23:45
  pushing through, doing their damnedest to go out there, do as
• 1:23:50
  best as they can with the equipment they have, trying and
• 1:23:54
  going. Doesn't go to social media and
• 1:23:58
  moans, complaints and groans and all the things.
• 1:24:01
  They just go to the track and they do what they got to do.
• 1:24:05
  And that's Kyle Klein again. He has.
• 1:24:09
  He's a. Champion.
• 1:24:10
  But if you were to put all the limited lay models on one track
• 1:24:14
  at one time, that is in the Michigan area, whether that's at
• 1:24:18
  M40 or at Kalamazoo or at Galesburg or at New Paris, and
• 1:24:23
  you pick names, you got the Ganassist staring them down.
• 1:24:26
  You got the Bozell staring them down, right?
• 1:24:27
  You got all these names. It's like who?
• 1:24:31
  Who just goes and does their thing?
• 1:24:33
  They don't get in all the drama, they don't get in all the
• 1:24:36
  things. They just go.
• 1:24:38
  And that's where I thought 2 to define my 20/20/24 season is
• 1:24:42
  Kyle Klein. And that's how I did my Mount
• 1:24:45
  Rushmore. It wasn't always necessary
• 1:24:47
  accolades, excuse me, but it was also like who do I feel deserves
• 1:24:54
  that honor of hey, I see what you're doing.
• 1:24:59
  And so those are why I picked my 4 names.
• 1:25:03
  Well, since you cheated and had more.
• 1:25:04
  Time to. Think about you.
• 1:25:07
  I'm gonna go with. Another I guess.
• 1:25:09
  Easier pick and more obvious pick for my 4th, but I think I'm
• 1:25:11
  gonna pick Brock Gannis as much as Tyler has been, I think the
• 1:25:17
  superstar of our area for the last however long I think, and
• 1:25:22
  Tyler still very much is. But I think Brock is next man up
• 1:25:26
  in that discussion. Yeah, for the guy of the area.
• 1:25:29
  So I'm gonna put Brock on mine. Well, because when you get past
• 1:25:33
  those names. Right, you can throw a Jeffrey
• 1:25:35
  town in there. You can start throwing a Ricky
• 1:25:36
  Lucic in there, right? You can.
• 1:25:38
  So it's like, but who who defines that season?
• 1:25:41
  Because Mount Rushmore helps define part of our history,
• 1:25:44
  right. And so so that's why I felt, you
• 1:25:47
  know, those names stuck stood and I definitely wasn't going
• 1:25:50
  after you and your name, you know, but it's, you know,
• 1:25:53
  because you're always going to get someone who's going to say
• 1:25:55
  Bryce Bozell. Yeah, he the kids, incredibly
• 1:25:58
  talented Mason, you know, showed what he could do this year,
• 1:26:01
  right. Like, I would not disagree with
• 1:26:02
  you. It would be.
• 1:26:03
  There's so much evidence to support that.
• 1:26:05
  But it's like sometimes, you know, when I see, you know, end
• 1:26:09
  of year awards and I see different things, it's like we
• 1:26:12
  don't go beyond the sexy names, right?
• 1:26:15
  The names that get mentioned all the time anyways, right?
• 1:26:18
  And so obviously, Tyler Lorie, hard to debate that.
• 1:26:21
  You know, he certainly would be on a lot of people's Mount
• 1:26:23
  Rushmore. I mean, he literally just
• 1:26:25
  crushed a track record at Berlin as if it were eating like fast,
• 1:26:29
  you know, like a buffet in 10 seconds, right?
• 1:26:31
  I mean, he just annihilated that and you know, and had that
• 1:26:35
  opportunity, right. And so then it's like, obviously
• 1:26:39
  that's a big accolade and he's and he's won in multiple series
• 1:26:43
  this year and all that. So you know, for a lot of people
• 1:26:45
  he is that Mount Rushmore. But it's also like, but he's a
• 1:26:49
  sexy name. He's a name that gets all the
• 1:26:52
  accolades already. He's a name that gets publicized
• 1:26:54
  all the time anyways, where you don't you don't think me putting
• 1:26:58
  on his Mount Rushmore is? Me putting him on my Mount
• 1:27:00
  Rushmore is gonna make to the shop wall, no?
• 1:27:04
  Probably not. I mean.
• 1:27:05
  I don't think any of our Mount Rushmore's are making anyone
• 1:27:07
  shop wall. But you know, I was thinking,
• 1:27:10
  you know what chew with the Mount Rushmore it's like and why
• 1:27:13
  I went this a couple times, right, is what's the Monday
• 1:27:16
  night rewind been all about? The rewind has been about, you
• 1:27:19
  know, we've obviously had sexy names on here.
• 1:27:22
  You know, you got Kenny Wallace, you got all, you know, all those
• 1:27:24
  names. But then we've also had like a
• 1:27:26
  Bree Brady on here who is in AC feature.
• 1:27:29
  A lot of people leave after the A feature, so they might not see
• 1:27:32
  AB or C feature, right. I see the stadium at Kalamazoo,
• 1:27:36
  the turn 2 clears out as soon as ABC feature comes on after A's.
• 1:27:40
  Like it's so disappointing sometimes that like, hey, these
• 1:27:43
  are good racers too and they all pay the same damn pit pass as
• 1:27:45
  everybody else. And you know, they and they have
• 1:27:49
  the same tire cost and same fuel cost, the same all the other
• 1:27:51
  things as the a feature guys, they're just not going to make
• 1:27:53
  as much money or earn as much to cut their, you know, to trim
• 1:27:57
  their losses. Hornet race was arguably the
• 1:27:59
  best race of the night at South. Bend Saturday, Yeah, and while
• 1:28:02
  that's not surprising. For South Bend, though, I mean,
• 1:28:04
  they, what am I saying? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:06
  And so I feel like we'll do a fair here since I'm going to
• 1:28:12
  share the screen again, since we, you know, we got the hardest
• 1:28:16
  one, I'm going to eliminate it and we'll do one more just to be
• 1:28:23
  fair because. That was the tough.
• 1:28:24
  One right that was the brain thinker and but I think you know
• 1:28:29
  both both of our versions were, you know, pretty good for Ronnie
• 1:28:36
  manner was a really good answer you.
• 1:28:37
  Know for what we're oh, sorry there.
• 1:28:39
  Was a chipmunk coming up. I just saw that light the the
• 1:28:43
  eye flash and then he ran away. So I'm like yeah buddy, I'm
• 1:28:46
  still up here. I'm sorry.
• 1:28:49
  All right, so let's spin it. What one are you hoping for next
• 1:28:52
  'cause you already said what 1 you didn't want and that's when
• 1:28:54
  it landed on. So out of the ones that are left
• 1:28:56
  segment racing this that front wheel drive discussion, which
• 1:29:00
  earlier I think you said front or someone said front wheel
• 1:29:02
  drives, April said front wheel drives social media or true or
• 1:29:07
  false. Which one are you hoping for?
• 1:29:09
  I think this or that. And true or false I think are
• 1:29:12
  easy answers, so I'm hoping for those now.
• 1:29:15
  OK, so let's see. There you go, do this or that.
• 1:29:21
  Give me a 50 lap St. Stock race and then cut another
• 1:29:24
  10. Laps.
• 1:29:27
  So so so This is why. I picked this.
• 1:29:31
  I'll that's too easy, but so we'll do one more.
• 1:29:35
  We'll do three most things. We'll probably just do one, but
• 1:29:38
  I felt like since that's pretty easy, give me the Street stocks.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah, I I for one, Yeah, I just prefer St.
• 1:29:45
  Stocks anyway, and I've talked about on my show, I think once
• 1:29:47
  you hit over in a late model race, once you hit over 75 left,
• 1:29:51
  it's all a point, a diminishing return.
• 1:29:53
  At some point you're giving too much time for the fast guys to
• 1:29:55
  get to the front. And we're going to say that a
• 1:29:58
  guy on my Mount Rushmore sent me a message and agreed with my
• 1:30:00
  point. So yeah, that's why you picked
• 1:30:04
  him. Now we know why he's.
• 1:30:05
  Clipped you a 20 under the table.
• 1:30:06
  No, I'm kidding, but that's how you got your Hornet out to the
• 1:30:10
  track. You got some more money, but no,
• 1:30:13
  I got some rocket shocks on the Saturn.
• 1:30:14
  Well. There you.
• 1:30:17
  Go. But what I think is right, you
• 1:30:19
  know I and you've heard me say this before and it's nothing.
• 1:30:23
  The light just turned off again. It's nothing against the outlaw
• 1:30:26
  guys, right? But I've always said.
• 1:30:30
  Even to outlaw. Guys, the races are one way or
• 1:30:33
  another, they're either really solid, few cautions here you go
• 1:30:37
  or they're marathons and they go forever.
• 1:30:42
  I mean, you know, the calendars who clashed a couple for the
• 1:30:45
  last couple years has been bumpy.
• 1:30:47
  You know, a few years ago, not so much, but we've had a fuel
• 1:30:50
  stop. We had to throw a red flag
• 1:30:51
  because people are running out of fuel because the number of
• 1:30:54
  caution laps and and that changes the race and it does.
• 1:30:57
  Change the race? Yep.
• 1:30:59
  And you have all these different things and it's like, it could
• 1:31:01
  be exciting, but you know, it gets to be single file at times.
• 1:31:06
  It gets to be different things. And and even watching that
• 1:31:09
  Grundy, right? And it's nothing against Grundy,
• 1:31:11
  but their late model race, you know, was pretty exciting until
• 1:31:15
  the two crashed and then it was not not exciting.
• 1:31:18
  It was still exciting. But a single file a lot, right?
• 1:31:21
  Super late model racing just kind of goes that way anywhere.
• 1:31:24
  And dirt or asphalt, right? Not maybe, maybe not so much
• 1:31:27
  dirt, but 'cause you can slide and get away with a few more
• 1:31:30
  things. But how many times have we seen
• 1:31:32
  on Facebook people go, oh, super Late Models forgot whether
• 1:31:35
  they're outlaw or NASCAR style, right?
• 1:31:38
  Oh, Super Late Models forgot how to drive today again 'cause they
• 1:31:40
  crashed on lap one, right? And so, you know, pile up in
• 1:31:44
  turn 1 lap one, right? So again, it's nothing against
• 1:31:48
  them, right? But I would rather get to a
• 1:31:50
  point where we start seeing 7575 lap races, maybe 80 lap races.
• 1:31:55
  And and you know, I don't want to take away from the the
• 1:31:58
  nostalgia of 125 lap Kalamazoo clash, but let's remember it
• 1:32:02
  used to be 200. So it's not been like 125
• 1:32:05
  forever. It used to be longer.
• 1:32:07
  And I also acknowledge the point that more lap.
• 1:32:09
  Sell tickets to the casual yeah side of things when but I mean,
• 1:32:14
  that's I feel like that's on us as a sport for not promoting our
• 1:32:19
  product properly. So the fact that we're using
• 1:32:21
  cheap things like the lap count to sell tick well and then think
• 1:32:25
  about that. Yeah, you got him in on the lap
• 1:32:27
  count, but how many people are going to go to social media?
• 1:32:30
  If you start with look at M40M40 got not it's no fault to their
• 1:32:34
  own, but what was the talk out of M 40s reveal?
• 1:32:37
  Race 03 finished and one was on like the lap, the lead lap or
• 1:32:41
  five or seven, whatever it was. But this many started and we got
• 1:32:44
  down to this much over time and only one guy was like on the
• 1:32:47
  lead lap, right? Like it just, it happens
• 1:32:50
  everywhere. It's not immune to one track or
• 1:32:53
  another. But it's like when you average,
• 1:32:55
  you know, yeah, you could say 100, 25 laps.
• 1:32:57
  But then when are they going to go to social media?
• 1:32:59
  They're not going to remember 125 laps.
• 1:33:01
  They're going to say you have 4 cars finish on the lead lap, you
• 1:33:03
  know, or you get the guys who remember, you know, Richard
• 1:33:08
  Nixon as president and go, I remember when there were 90 late
• 1:33:12
  models here and you had AF feature consolation back then or
• 1:33:17
  whatever. OK, It's not happening anymore.
• 1:33:20
  You know, it's just not. Yeah.
• 1:33:22
  And to those to those people that make that point.
• 1:33:24
  All the time South Bend. We had 123 cars on Saturday we
• 1:33:28
  finished up just before 2:00 in the morning and you know what
• 1:33:30
  the stands look like at 2:00 in the morning, Lewis?
• 1:33:32
  They're. They were empty.
• 1:33:34
  Yeah. Everybody.
• 1:33:34
  Everybody acts like they want to be there all night, but they
• 1:33:36
  don't. They leave when the stuff gets
• 1:33:38
  strung out and that's the racers are OK being not all.
• 1:33:41
  Racers. But you know your die hards,
• 1:33:44
  your die hards don't care if they go to IHOP an hour after
• 1:33:47
  the race is finished, right? But most people in today's
• 1:33:50
  world, you know, I talk to families a lot.
• 1:33:53
  You know, I used to talk to families all the time because of
• 1:33:56
  my previous job, right? And you know, I would talk
• 1:34:00
  because they knew I was in the racing and I would talk with
• 1:34:01
  them about racing. They're like it on Fridays.
• 1:34:03
  It's tough because you're like, well, we got soccer in the
• 1:34:06
  morning. We just can't be out late.
• 1:34:07
  And you know, for us down in Bering County, our closest track
• 1:34:11
  is Hartford. South Bend, if you go to
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  Indiana, would be the closest track.
• 1:34:15
  If you're if you stay just in Michigan, it's Hartford, the
• 1:34:19
  next closest in the Barren County would be M40 and then you
• 1:34:22
  get to there you go Kalamazoo, Plymouth, Galesburg, in that
• 1:34:27
  order from this part of Barren County.
• 1:34:30
  New Buffalo would be a little different.
• 1:34:32
  It would the order would change slightly, but still those are
• 1:34:34
  the closest tracks. And so when you think about
• 1:34:36
  that, if I. You know if I have.
• 1:34:40
  Kids and they were just at school all day.
• 1:34:42
  We've been up since, you know, 6:00 in the morning.
• 1:34:44
  And now I want to go to a track. I don't want to be there past
• 1:34:47
  11. And I know that's hard for
• 1:34:50
  people to understand and it's hard for people.
• 1:34:52
  But look at MLB baseball, look at the college football game.
• 1:34:56
  Look at the NFL. They're always talking about in
• 1:34:58
  the news. How can we shorten the game
• 1:34:59
  because people don't want to be at it forever.
• 1:35:01
  It's not the 1990 NFL anymore. The fans aren't that way.
• 1:35:08
  Fans are shrinking. Like, that's right?
• 1:35:10
  That's just how it is. And because.
• 1:35:12
  We have to die. Yeah.
• 1:35:14
  And so I look at the Savannah Banana.
• 1:35:16
  I look at, you know, when we went to the Chili Peppers
• 1:35:20
  baseball game at Grand Rapids a few weeks ago.
• 1:35:22
  Like, my mom does not sit and watch sports or anything on TV,
• 1:35:27
  but she'll watch the Savannah Bananas.
• 1:35:29
  And we went and watched the Chili Peppers game.
• 1:35:31
  That the whole game non-stop, something's going on all the
• 1:35:35
  time. I'm like, I afterwards I said,
• 1:35:37
  man, if people, if they get over stimulated quick, that game may,
• 1:35:41
  that kind of game may not be for them.
• 1:35:42
  They may need the Super slow game because I, I was
• 1:35:46
  overwhelmed at times just with mental and visual imagery where
• 1:35:50
  I'm like, there's just like no stop, you know, like if you went
• 1:35:54
  to the bathroom break, you missed something, right?
• 1:35:56
  And so I mean the game, like all of it is just fast, right?
• 1:36:00
  So that's what, you know, we're in that world now.
• 1:36:04
  So I think that's something that we need to remember.
• 1:36:06
  And like last night at Corrigan oil, like people, there are a
• 1:36:09
  lot of people who stay, but it was an unusually late night for
• 1:36:11
  Corrigan lot going on. They had champions crown and all
• 1:36:14
  that, but like they had Matthew LC junior hit water barrels,
• 1:36:18
  they had a Pierce stock hit the water barrels they had.
• 1:36:23
  They just had weird things that they haven't had at any other.
• 1:36:26
  It was a slugfest last night. They hadn't had that all year.
• 1:36:30
  And it's like, man, it was seven O 1 and we were still in
• 1:36:33
  intermission usually by 7 O1. We were finishing the last
• 1:36:36
  feature. And so with twins and so it's
• 1:36:39
  just an unusual night and they started on time.
• 1:36:41
  It's not like they even started like Corgan, like Callum was
• 1:36:44
  just really good. Five O clocks, 5 O clock, 7 O
• 1:36:46
  clock, 7 O clock 73730. Like those tracks are really
• 1:36:50
  good. About 5:00 is 5:00 or whatever.
• 1:36:53
  Like we're not going to say that we're going to start at 4:00 and
• 1:36:55
  we actually don't start till 6:00.
• 1:36:57
  Like they're realistic about their time and they stay on
• 1:37:00
  time. They don't waste it.
• 1:37:02
  And so I'm like, oh, if I had worked the next.
• 1:37:06
  Day like today. Man, I probably would have been
• 1:37:09
  slow walking or Grundy. I would have never been able to
• 1:37:11
  go to Grundy on. Well, that would have been Labor
• 1:37:14
  Day week. And I could have, but, but if it
• 1:37:16
  were normal Monday, I wouldn't be able to go to Grundy and I
• 1:37:19
  definitely wouldn't have been able to hang out with Brian
• 1:37:21
  Kasaba for a while afterwards, get home at 5:00 in the morning.
• 1:37:24
  Like it just wouldn't have happened.
• 1:37:26
  But why don't I eliminate that? And to close our show, we'll do
• 1:37:30
  one more. Maybe it'll be a quick one, and
• 1:37:32
  then we'll get off because I love the wheel music.
• 1:37:36
  Yeah, I didn't. It's an easy one.
• 1:37:43
  Oh, it's kind of so front wheel drive racers often note that
• 1:37:48
  they do not have big shows and comment how they bring more
• 1:37:50
  people to front wheel drive shows, bring more people than V8
• 1:37:54
  class shows. So let me go ahead and stop
• 1:37:57
  sharing the screen and I'm kind of in the dark again.
• 1:38:01
  But it's fine, I'm OK. I don't mind the darkness right
• 1:38:05
  now. But what do you think, you know,
• 1:38:08
  'cause you, you know, as a front wheel drive racer and I've had
• 1:38:11
  these conversations with front wheel drive racers, right?
• 1:38:14
  But I've seen shows at like the small car nationals at Slinger.
• 1:38:18
  It was a, a front wheel drive small car national only show.
• 1:38:22
  It definitely didn't have the same amount of fans as slingers,
• 1:38:25
  you know, nationals with cars, right?
• 1:38:28
  So you as a front wheel drive racer, you know, what do you,
• 1:38:31
  what do you think? How do you feel like, you know,
• 1:38:34
  do you think that that argument 'cause you see it all the time,
• 1:38:38
  you know, do you think that argument kind of needs to lay to
• 1:38:40
  rest? Do you think, you know, you keep
• 1:38:42
  the drum beaten? Like what do you think?
• 1:38:45
  Maybe you more specifically as a front wheel drive racer I think.
• 1:38:51
  I no, I don't, I don't think 4 cylinders in general are a main
• 1:38:56
  event class. Most of the time.
• 1:38:58
  I think there are like I think of the Freedom Factory shows
• 1:39:01
  that rejected with the national Compact touring series and
• 1:39:04
  Carolina Mini Stocks and all the the other all the 4 cylinder
• 1:39:07
  groups that came together and they ran that big race down at
• 1:39:09
  Freedom Factory. Yeah, I believe they had a DE
• 1:39:11
  feature that first. Year so.
• 1:39:12
  That's a that's a big show. And, and honestly, I don't, I
• 1:39:17
  don't remember what the crowd looked like that night, but I
• 1:39:19
  don't think it was packed or anything.
• 1:39:20
  It's a tough sell. People are people want to see
• 1:39:24
  St. stocks, people want to see late models.
• 1:39:26
  And maybe that goes back to like I said with the lap thing, maybe
• 1:39:28
  it's a bit of a marketing issue because I think me and you agree
• 1:39:31
  the front wheel drive racing is pretty exciting at its best.
• 1:39:34
  Yeah, just like anything else. Yeah.
• 1:39:36
  So I think people sometimes get hung up on the speed thing that
• 1:39:42
  and a lot and a lot of these tracks.
• 1:39:44
  Now the Outlaw front wheel drives or whatever you call the
• 1:39:46
  class, wherever it may be, are going faster than some of the
• 1:39:48
  street stocks, right? Absolutely.
• 1:39:50
  Yeah. But.
• 1:39:52
  I just a lot of people. Get caught up on the speeds and
• 1:39:55
  how many cylinders the car has. But to me, good racing is good
• 1:39:58
  racing. I don't care if they're going,
• 1:40:02
  you know, 40 miles an hour. If they're beating and banging
• 1:40:04
  and it's 4 wide off of four, does it really matter how fast
• 1:40:07
  they're going if it's a good race?
• 1:40:09
  I don't know. That's how I've always looked at
• 1:40:11
  it. Yeah, and that's where again I
• 1:40:13
  pulled. A lot of this inspiration for
• 1:40:15
  these topics from conversations on Facebook.
• 1:40:18
  Not my conversations, but like conversations in general that
• 1:40:21
  you see all the time are big topics.
• 1:40:23
  And so I think of like yesterday at Corgan Oil, that second bee
• 1:40:27
  feature was just wild. And finally.
• 1:40:32
  Slowed down, there's a caution and that kind of brought
• 1:40:34
  everyone together. But there are like 14 cautions.
• 1:40:37
  I think Christopher, we called it best.
• 1:40:39
  There's like 13 or 14 uncalled cautions that could have
• 1:40:42
  happened, should have happened, didn't happen.
• 1:40:44
  And that made for exciting racing, right?
• 1:40:47
  Because your, your head has to be on a swivel.
• 1:40:49
  And it's those kind of nights that I'm like, man, 4 cameraman
• 1:40:52
  would have been better than one cameraman because we could have
• 1:40:54
  captured everything right where it's when it's 1 camera, you'll
• 1:40:57
  see I bounce around. I'm like, I can't cover it all.
• 1:40:59
  Like you got to pick a spot to do all of this.
• 1:41:01
  Like I can't, you got to be my frame.
• 1:41:03
  I got, I can't just chase you down.
• 1:41:05
  You got to get in my frame and help me out here.
• 1:41:07
  But you know, but you have that. But sometimes when I hear, you
• 1:41:12
  know, when I'm talking with front wheel drive racers and you
• 1:41:15
  know, and I agree, when you look at the pit area, yeah, you know,
• 1:41:19
  their pit areas usually have probably more people than a lot
• 1:41:22
  of. It's a back gate class.
• 1:41:23
  It's a back gate, right? You know.
• 1:41:26
  But when you look at the stands and, you know, you look at small
• 1:41:30
  car nationals and it's not like it was a weak crowd, but it was
• 1:41:32
  definitely I could show up when the show started and get a top
• 1:41:36
  row seat somewhere. Like I wouldn't have had to
• 1:41:37
  fight anybody for it, whereas a couple days prior to that for
• 1:41:41
  their Slinger nationals, right? It's near sell out and you have
• 1:41:45
  reserved seating, you have all these things.
• 1:41:47
  And so I kind of think that sometimes when I hear it, it's
• 1:41:52
  almost like, OK, we need to kind of lay it to rest a little bit.
• 1:41:56
  Because if you go to a promoter or a track owner and you try to
• 1:42:00
  convince them, oh, you know, I'll bring 20 front wheel drive
• 1:42:03
  cars and we'll pack the stands and all that.
• 1:42:06
  And you do that and you get 50 people to watch you.
• 1:42:09
  But your purse, you know, is 5000 payout, you know, start to
• 1:42:15
  finish, that's that's a problem, right?
• 1:42:19
  50 people aren't paying that and you better have sponsors that
• 1:42:22
  are helping with that. And if you don't have sponsors
• 1:42:26
  helping with that, then somebody's got to cover it,
• 1:42:28
  right? And even these big shows, these
• 1:42:31
  V8 shows, those there are a lot of those shows that go upside
• 1:42:33
  down too. And that's that's a I'm sorry
• 1:42:36
  that sorry, turning off. That's what I was kind of
• 1:42:37
  thinking as we continue to have the discussion.
• 1:42:39
  I don't even know if this is necessarily just a front wheel
• 1:42:41
  drive issue. I think it's kind of late models
• 1:42:43
  versus everything else, isn't it?
• 1:42:44
  I mean St. stock if there's not. Many St.
• 1:42:47
  Stock shows or there's not many shows where St. stocks are the
• 1:42:49
  headliner and Flagger Boy had a really good crowd this year.
• 1:42:52
  I'm thinking Flagger Boy, but it wasn't a Sizzler crowd.
• 1:42:55
  No, no, Sizzler. Yes, Sizzler.
• 1:42:58
  Was pretty was a little bit fuller than that.
• 1:43:01
  So I think I the I just go. Back going back to my point, I
• 1:43:04
  think it's part of the issue is the sport of as a whole has had
• 1:43:10
  an issue marketing itself for the last probably 6-7 years.
• 1:43:14
  Yeah, well. Well, even if you think the
• 1:43:16
  social media era, if you go even post COVID, you haven't
• 1:43:20
  recovered a lot post COVID because everything changed then
• 1:43:25
  whether we want to say it or not.
• 1:43:27
  And you know, so if you think about that like if you go.
• 1:43:32
  Before COVID right there were some.
• 1:43:33
  Struggles. Some tracks, kind of figured out
• 1:43:36
  some things and we're keeping strong crowds.
• 1:43:38
  But since then, I mean, now look at movie theaters.
• 1:43:42
  I can watch it on my TV at home with my own bag of popcorn that
• 1:43:46
  I paid $0.90 for $0.50 for instead of 525 for a small bag,
• 1:43:53
  right? I can watch the movie.
• 1:43:59
  That's in the movie theater. Right now I just pay rental for
• 1:44:02
  a couple days or whatever, right?
• 1:44:04
  So I even think it's more so yes, it's a 20 year like we are
• 1:44:08
  not, we didn't get out of the 80s very well, right?
• 1:44:11
  And we're and some of us think it out of the Bill Clinton years
• 1:44:14
  very well either, right? Like, but then if you really,
• 1:44:17
  really go deeper, I mean, Monica Lewinsky came out pretty well.
• 1:44:20
  But other than that, you know, if you go post COVID, everything
• 1:44:27
  changed. Putt putt golf courses are not
• 1:44:31
  as full as they used to be. Yeah, Dr. Throughs aren't 24
• 1:44:34
  hours no more. Right, right Pokémon.
• 1:44:37
  Go is not as popular as it was when everyone was so excited.
• 1:44:41
  Like hey, people are out of the house.
• 1:44:42
  Like, remember the news talking about like people are out of the
• 1:44:44
  house and talking to strangers and like, like, like, yes,
• 1:44:49
  stranger danger, but not everyone is like dangerous,
• 1:44:52
  right? Like, so I think that's the
• 1:44:54
  thing that we got to wrestle with is that one, we have to
• 1:44:58
  convince people to come back to the tracks and give it a shot. 2
• 1:45:02
  We can't just, you know, we, we, we got to find a way because
• 1:45:05
  look at look at I was right, Drew Jack was wrong on Saturday
• 1:45:09
  about our attendance. Just to put that out there in
• 1:45:12
  the universe, he had a prediction and I had a
• 1:45:15
  prediction and Randy had said a rough ballpark idea and I
• 1:45:19
  celebrated in Love's parking lot going I was right then.
• 1:45:22
  That's all that matters. I don't care what the real
• 1:45:24
  number is. I was right and and he didn't
• 1:45:27
  have a real number, but it's closer to my number than Jews
• 1:45:30
  number. So just throwing that out there
• 1:45:31
  since he made fun of the Notre Dame schedule.
• 1:45:33
  But anyways, you know, it's how can you get that night at
• 1:45:38
  destruction crowd to you know. Come.
• 1:45:44
  Check out weekly racing, right? Like that's always our biggest
• 1:45:47
  crowds to look at. And you know what it comes down
• 1:45:50
  to is like, why aren't they coming to watch us, right?
• 1:45:54
  Look at MLB outside of the Chicago Cubs.
• 1:45:59
  Go to New York Yankee game, you can get a seat anywhere you
• 1:46:02
  want. The prices are ridiculous by the
• 1:46:04
  way. Also part of the problem, short
• 1:46:05
  track racing doesn't have a pricing problem.
• 1:46:08
  It has a mentality problem of people think that 10 bucks
• 1:46:11
  should still be the entry fee. I'm telling you, M 40s probably
• 1:46:14
  not making money, you know, just to throw that out there with
• 1:46:17
  your ticket. They're probably making a lot of
• 1:46:19
  sacrifices to keep that ticket low with sponsorship money and
• 1:46:22
  all that other kind of stuff. But you know, with their payout,
• 1:46:25
  you just do the math. It's they're they're they're
• 1:46:28
  probably not making money. Even though all these people
• 1:46:30
  think race tracks owners are rich and famous and all these
• 1:46:33
  things like, Nope, they're making sacrifices, I promise
• 1:46:36
  you. And if, if they are making
• 1:46:38
  money, then that's news to a lot of people, you know, because you
• 1:46:42
  just did the math, you go and you look at the attendance and
• 1:46:45
  you do it times 10, you know, and then you go, oh, the Crown
• 1:46:49
  Vics paid this much, the street tax paid this much, start to
• 1:46:51
  finish, right. You just do the math and then
• 1:46:53
  you look at the pit area and you go, you know, 2.1 multiplier per
• 1:46:57
  car. Yeah.
• 1:46:59
  And you do that math at $30 and you're like, it's tough, right?
• 1:47:03
  Like, so you know, the days of, well, the the tickets cover the
• 1:47:08
  OR the sponsors cover the purse. No, they don't.
• 1:47:12
  They don't. There's a track in the area that
• 1:47:14
  literally had a huge race and their sponsor didn't cover first
• 1:47:17
  place. Yeah, you're you're lucky if the
• 1:47:19
  sponsor. Covers the banner that the
• 1:47:21
  sponsor's on sometimes. Oh yeah, don't get started on
• 1:47:24
  that. That's the thing too, that A.
• 1:47:25
  Lot of people don't understand like a lot of times tracks are
• 1:47:28
  paying for those banners this but they're using the sponsor
• 1:47:31
  might need to pay for the banner, you know, so they're not
• 1:47:33
  right. That's a lot of times those
• 1:47:34
  sponsors are seed money at the start of the year that helps the
• 1:47:37
  20,000 to $40,000 that they need to open the gates to order the
• 1:47:41
  first food, to order the tires, to order the fuel, to order, you
• 1:47:45
  know, to pay the workers for cleaning up the track and doing
• 1:47:47
  all things like we just don't live in an era.
• 1:47:51
  In fact, I was talking to the track owner on on Sunday on my
• 1:47:53
  way to Corrigan and I said a lot of people don't understand
• 1:47:57
  nowadays, right, The the cost it is to just open a gate, right?
• 1:48:03
  And two, there's a mentality where some people say, well,
• 1:48:07
  this track is only for profit. They only want to make profit.
• 1:48:11
  Yeah, well, one a lot of. Tracks are going under.
• 1:48:14
  Week after week, night after night, outside the night of
• 1:48:16
  destruction events. But two, if you want
• 1:48:19
  improvements to the facility, they got to have money from
• 1:48:21
  somewhere. They can't just lose money.
• 1:48:23
  And I sometimes think when you hear racers say, well, I lose
• 1:48:26
  money too racing, well, sometimes you're making the
• 1:48:29
  choice to buy a part that's more expensive than this brand that
• 1:48:33
  would get you the almost the same result.
• 1:48:35
  Maybe not as fast, maybe not as this, maybe not as glorious,
• 1:48:39
  maybe not a name brand. But you know what?
• 1:48:42
  If you buy Spartan Corn, it's the same people who make craft
• 1:48:48
  corn, you know, it's just a different package, just so you
• 1:48:51
  know, right. So, and back to our point
• 1:48:54
  earlier about I mean. Hornet racing and all that.
• 1:48:57
  I took my my my stock as a bone. Hornet out.
• 1:49:00
  Yeah, couldn't be more stock. Took it out stop the Motor
• 1:49:03
  Speedway on Saturday and it was 6 quick out of 40 cars won the
• 1:49:06
  fast heat was going to the front of the A before I screwed
• 1:49:09
  myself. So I mean, if people want to
• 1:49:12
  complain about cost and everything all the time, there
• 1:49:14
  is a class. You just just miss it.
• 1:49:17
  Yeah. Well, and I think that's.
• 1:49:18
  Sometimes, right? Who said it on here?
• 1:49:22
  Someone I can't remember the gas, but they're like, racers
• 1:49:24
  are their own worst enemy, right?
• 1:49:25
  100 percent, 100% of the And the promoters who give in to the
• 1:49:29
  racers, yeah, they, they deserve.
• 1:49:30
  Some of the blame too, but. Yeah, racers are always.
• 1:49:32
  Going to ask for more despite themselves.
• 1:49:35
  Yeah, and I think Candy Hat is the one who told.
• 1:49:37
  Someone one time stop racers from themselves Yes.
• 1:49:41
  I think Kenny even said that this year and that's why that
• 1:49:43
  came to mind. Is on the show I believe yeah
• 1:49:46
  Yep. You know is.
• 1:49:47
  That. Right, like the shocks.
• 1:49:50
  Well, this shock is what I could get, but for 400 bucks more I
• 1:49:54
  can get this and I'll do all these wonderful things that
• 1:49:58
  right, whatever it is. And I don't know all the parts,
• 1:50:00
  so I'm not going to pretend to know, but but I just see all the
• 1:50:02
  discussion and the debate and it's like, do you really need
• 1:50:05
  that much? You know, do you need that one
• 1:50:08
  per SE? Yeah, it may be better
• 1:50:10
  performing. But the other shock that was
• 1:50:13
  $400.00 less could have got you close to the same results,
• 1:50:16
  right? And maybe not the exact right,
• 1:50:19
  but but it's one of those things that then, you know, when you
• 1:50:22
  go, well, owners and promoters need to pay more.
• 1:50:27
  Well, you made the choice. To buy A50. $1000 front wheel
• 1:50:30
  drive Why does the. Owner need to pay more.
• 1:50:35
  Because you spent $50,000 on a front wheel drive 100%.
• 1:50:38
  And you know what? And in my opinion.
• 1:50:40
  There's going to be people out here that don't like this, but
• 1:50:43
  what fixes a lot of that problem is putting the front wheel drive
• 1:50:45
  class back on radials. Take them off racing.
• 1:50:47
  Oh yeah, put them on radials. They're.
• 1:50:50
  Not. Those big old motors aren't
• 1:50:51
  going to do nothing on radials. They might help.
• 1:50:53
  They're going to help them a little bit, obviously, but it's
• 1:50:55
  not going to make as big of a difference as they do on
• 1:50:57
  Hoosiers. You're in a real cost back in.
• 1:50:59
  Put them on radials. Well, and thinking about that,
• 1:51:01
  I. Agree with that too, because
• 1:51:04
  that's been a big discussion. I don't know how this is going
• 1:51:06
  to show up on the screen, but this is something I've talked
• 1:51:08
  with a lot of drivers. So like Anthony, others, so Aunt
• 1:51:11
  April has on here. Well, it hit me the other night
• 1:51:14
  that drivers that use Disney and other cartoon characters are on
• 1:51:18
  to something. It draws the little ones into
• 1:51:19
  rooting them on just by look and the parents pay to get in
• 1:51:22
  whatever draws the young generation.
• 1:51:24
  Not only do I think those Disney characters do that, but painted
• 1:51:29
  cars, yeah. They're like if you go to
• 1:51:33
  Painesville, OH. Well.
• 1:51:37
  But I mean think about this do. You need to spend 2.
• 1:51:41
  Let's throw a number out, 2000. That may be low balling, but
• 1:51:44
  let's say do you need to spend two $3000 on a full wrap for
• 1:51:48
  your car? Whereas if I go to Painesville,
• 1:51:51
  OH, almost every car in the pit area is hand painted by one or
• 1:51:55
  two different people. And they had that old school
• 1:51:58
  nostalgia feel and they stand out right there.
• 1:52:02
  Even at Grundy, there are a couple cars that were hand
• 1:52:04
  painted where I'm like, Oh, this is really sharp.
• 1:52:06
  And they say, Oh yeah, this is hand painted with there's no way
• 1:52:08
  that this is hand painted and it was hand painted.
• 1:52:12
  And, and I think like, yes, those wraps look nice.
• 1:52:16
  Yes, they whatever, but that's two or $3000 that you really
• 1:52:21
  need to do that, right? Like in fact, there's a guy in
• 1:52:24
  Grundy, he went to O'Reilly Auto Parts.
• 1:52:28
  He's on a Facebook Live. He went to O'Reilly Auto Parts.
• 1:52:32
  He said, what's the cheapest paint you got?
• 1:52:34
  And it's like this goldish, brownish gold.
• 1:52:39
  And it stood out, right. It stood out.
• 1:52:41
  And I'm like, and a lot of people are going to him because
• 1:52:44
  the car stood out right. And I get it.
• 1:52:47
  Everyone likes black cars with neon letters and all these
• 1:52:49
  things. And, and I get that.
• 1:52:52
  And sometimes it's easier to keep in a black car 'cause
• 1:52:54
  you're not putting as much into it.
• 1:52:55
  And I, I understand black cars. I'm not against that.
• 1:52:57
  Like I understand that. But but I think the Disney
• 1:53:00
  characters, like the work that that Anthony Dual and Matthew or
• 1:53:05
  Matt Elsie senior put into that design stood out The Bluey car.
• 1:53:10
  I know people stand out at Galesburg.
• 1:53:14
  Ray Robertson the Ninja. Turtles and how much he.
• 1:53:16
  Embraced his ninja turtle, you know, right, like people
• 1:53:19
  remember that kind of stuff. I think of the angry Unicorn and
• 1:53:22
  no, that's not and some people say a race car, but remember
• 1:53:25
  itself an auto show. The a little kid said mommy,
• 1:53:28
  mommy, that's a real race car. And they weren't pointing to the
• 1:53:31
  $50,000 car parked across from her.
• 1:53:34
  They are or it's probably $80,000 car.
• 1:53:36
  Let's be real. They were they're talking to the
• 1:53:38
  $500 car. Whatever cost her to get that
• 1:53:41
  right. And like the angry Unicorn, the
• 1:53:43
  shark, right? These cars stand up.
• 1:53:45
  Ham bone had ham bone. Yeah, with ham bone, right?
• 1:53:48
  And you know, so I think it's those kind of things like
• 1:53:52
  getting creative and, and I shared the story of Illiana with
• 1:53:55
  a lot of people what got me hooked.
• 1:53:57
  Drivers going through. So the shulers did this and
• 1:53:59
  others did it too. But going through the stands
• 1:54:02
  with tire turds, they would take tire turds off their tires at
• 1:54:05
  the end of the night or they would walk the track and they'd
• 1:54:07
  collect them at the end of the night.
• 1:54:08
  Because you can go like Kalamazoo, you can walk at the I
• 1:54:10
  don't know if you should walk on the track at the end of the
• 1:54:12
  night, but if if you did, there's tire turds all over.
• 1:54:15
  Yeah, and but it's one of those things like that's that's what
• 1:54:20
  got me to really fall in love and want to be a racers.
• 1:54:23
  That damn tire turd, right? It wasn't anything fancy.
• 1:54:26
  It wasn't the AI generated hero card.
• 1:54:29
  It wasn't a checkered flag. It wasn't.
• 1:54:32
  And it was a tire turd that cost them nothing.
• 1:54:35
  They already paid for the tire, right?
• 1:54:36
  Giving the turds out to kids cost them nothing.
• 1:54:39
  They were already peeling it off the tire to begin with, and so I
• 1:54:43
  think it's things like that like finding ways to connect and so I
• 1:54:46
  definitely you know, I've had a lot of discussions with drivers
• 1:54:50
  now I'm not saying don't be slick, right like Nick Presser's
• 1:54:53
  car looks amazing. It's not a full wrap, it's
• 1:54:55
  stickers, but it looks amazing. You know, Billy, Billy Yates
• 1:55:00
  always has a very simple cars. Yep, you know, I you know, but
• 1:55:04
  it's you know, when you look at some of the wrap prices that
• 1:55:06
  people are paying for wraps and then, you know, when you talk
• 1:55:09
  about the cost racing, well, you didn't need to put that rap on
• 1:55:13
  Yeah, granted I'm a horn racer, but most.
• 1:55:14
  Of my car has been rattle canned, this one was not.
• 1:55:17
  This one was not and then made one.
• 1:55:18
  Corner. Yeah, yeah, I wasted that money.
• 1:55:22
  Yeah. Well, Trevor.
• 1:55:23
  So, Trevor? Hoekstra, his yellow and black
• 1:55:25
  car that he has now, That's the way it came. the IT had the I
• 1:55:28
  think they did the black roof. Maybe.
• 1:55:30
  I'm trying to remember what they said.
• 1:55:31
  Careful with that yellow and black man.
• 1:55:33
  Yeah. The yellow car.
• 1:55:36
  And I'm like, it stands out. And I was telling him Miguel's
• 1:55:38
  work. I said, you've actually done
• 1:55:39
  better since you had this. And if you think about Austin
• 1:55:41
  Maynard, remember Austin Maynard did like a different color
• 1:55:43
  scheme a few years ago, had the worst luck.
• 1:55:45
  And then he went back to his normal colors and it's like the
• 1:55:48
  world righted around him. And, and so Trevor's like
• 1:55:52
  you're, you know, kind of right. And he's thinking about that
• 1:55:53
  too, Like I've had a lot better luck just keeping it this way.
• 1:55:57
  And he had fancy cars. Again, I'm not against fancy
• 1:55:59
  cars, like I'm not against that. I'm just saying like, if you're
• 1:56:02
  cutting costs, you're looking at costs.
• 1:56:03
  There's ways to cut costs and take that from even me, like
• 1:56:07
  every, you know, I'm not shy about it.
• 1:56:08
  I'm deficit spending all the time and, and anytime I think I
• 1:56:13
  get close and something happens. And so like right now I have
• 1:56:17
  disks that need replaced, $90.00 each to get the disks that I get
• 1:56:21
  on Amazon. I went this use it should be 20
• 1:56:23
  bucks. How's it 90 bucks?
• 1:56:24
  It's crazy I'm like I can't replace these discs right now.
• 1:56:27
  I don't have the money to replace them.
• 1:56:29
  I'm already almost 2000 in the hole.
• 1:56:32
  I can't go more. This is the time of year where
• 1:56:35
  is there's no making up and we're at the end of the year,
• 1:56:37
  right? There's, I'm out of the core of
• 1:56:39
  the season, right? So, you know, the, the, the
• 1:56:43
  YouTube money, the little of it that comes in, it's going to go
• 1:56:46
  low now. It's not going to be where it's
• 1:56:48
  been. And so I'm like, I, I'm going to
• 1:56:51
  get maybe 1/3 of it. And so I'm like, I can go get a
• 1:56:55
  Happy Meal at I can't even afford a McDonald's anymore
• 1:56:58
  sometimes. But, but it's, you know, I mean,
• 1:57:02
  the other day, what I paid from McDonald's, I'm like, this is
• 1:57:04
  supposed to be fast food. You know, I'm like, I could go
• 1:57:07
  to Culver's for this price. But, but yeah, but it's one of
• 1:57:10
  those things that like I've been looking at my, my budget sheet.
• 1:57:12
  I'm like, well, if I didn't host a podcast every month, I
• 1:57:15
  wouldn't be paying 4499 for that if I didn't write, although I
• 1:57:18
  love the podcast, right? But if I like compare costs,
• 1:57:21
  it's like, you know, I cut SmugMug that was 288200 and $82
• 1:57:26
  that I didn't have to pay this year.
• 1:57:27
  That's helpful. That's a lot of money.
• 1:57:29
  And yeah, I didn't have to pay for that.
• 1:57:32
  So that's helpful. Otherwise that would have been,
• 1:57:35
  that would have put me over 2000 in the hole, well over 2000 in
• 1:57:38
  the hole. I would have been near 3000 in
• 1:57:39
  the hole, right. So I've trimmed costs a lot this
• 1:57:41
  year. I haven't done as much as I
• 1:57:43
  wanted to, but it's one of those things, right?
• 1:57:46
  Like, you know, I kind of go and I'm like, well, I did, did I
• 1:57:49
  need that? I probably didn't need that.
• 1:57:51
  Why did I do that? Or you know, so I think that's
• 1:57:55
  one of the things when we think about cost and we think about
• 1:57:57
  all that and think about what we race and how we race, I think 1
• 1:58:02
  to kind of go back to this, we just need to think 2, being
• 1:58:05
  realistic about costs. And with front wheel drive
• 1:58:07
  racing, like it's exciting. We need to market it that way.
• 1:58:10
  We need to show them those exciting B features and a
• 1:58:12
  features that come down to the wire just like a street sack
• 1:58:16
  race, you know. But at the same time, we need
• 1:58:19
  to, we need drivers to help us go well, you just need to give
• 1:58:22
  us 1000 win. Guess what?
• 1:58:24
  I've seen front wheel drive races 1000 to win.
• 1:58:27
  And I'm not talking about Corrigan, by the way, because I
• 1:58:28
  know Benny and April are on this is not them.
• 1:58:30
  But I've seen other people put $1000 to win races in the other
• 1:58:34
  States and like once was it Pennsylvania?
• 1:58:38
  I would. Say it's Pennsylvania is out.
• 1:58:40
  East Pennsylvania or New York, they had a 5000 to win front
• 1:58:43
  wheel drive race because racers said they wanted it, not they
• 1:58:47
  had 100, excuse me, 175 fans at a $15 ticket.
• 1:58:55
  And for 5000 win, they had 12 front wheel drive show up.
• 1:59:01
  Yeah, and. And.
• 1:59:02
  Or. Pure stocks, I think was they
• 1:59:04
  call them out there too, like Illinois, but but either way for
• 1:59:07
  5000 win and another track cancelled their show, which was
• 1:59:14
  20 ish miles away, cancelled their show, told their drivers
• 1:59:18
  go support this race. You know, whatever nobody went,
• 1:59:25
  you know, so it's like it's not always more money, right?
• 1:59:28
  It's we just got to help each other with all this Mark from a
• 1:59:30
  marketing standpoint, getting people out, doing the Tetra
• 1:59:33
  trucks, doing the different things, having sharp cars, but
• 1:59:35
  also like does it need to have the $2000 wrap on it, right?
• 1:59:40
  Like, you know, we can't expect we can't expect track owners or
• 1:59:44
  promoters to just keep forking out more money unless you help
• 1:59:47
  get more people in the stands. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:59:50
  Exactly. We we keep yeah.
• 1:59:52
  And we I'm going back to the little things that that Matt, I
• 1:59:55
  like. I always to go back to it on
• 1:59:57
  this on this show. Sparky the clown I felt in when
• 1:59:59
  I was a kid. Oh yeah.
• 2:00:01
  It was a cheap American flag suit and some face paint and the
• 2:00:05
  little, you know, 10 cent suckers that he handed out to
• 2:00:07
  kids. And I think about Sparky every
• 2:00:09
  day of my life almost. It's those little things that I
• 2:00:12
  think about the Eminem's car from when I was a kid, like.
• 2:00:15
  Owasso has the Lightning McQueen streets.
• 2:00:17
  Yeah, yeah, that stuff matters. Kids that hooks a.
• 2:00:20
  Kid, that kid remembers that and then he thinks about school that
• 2:00:23
  week and he tells another kid about it.
• 2:00:25
  I went to Owasso Speedway and I saw the Lightning McQueen truck.
• 2:00:27
  You should go to Owasso Speedway.
• 2:00:30
  Oh no. And I think again, that's.
• 2:00:32
  How can we get creative? How can we get people out there?
• 2:00:34
  How can we put on quality racing?
• 2:00:36
  Because as I was talking with the guys last night at Corrigan
• 2:00:39
  and I know we went late way later than I planned, but you
• 2:00:41
  know, with Corrigan, I said the quality, it's not the issue of
• 2:00:44
  quality racing here. Even last night, everyone would
• 2:00:46
  probably meant it was a little bumpy, but it's still
• 2:00:48
  entertaining, right? I you weren't bored.
• 2:00:51
  It was just like, wow, this is not what a Sunday show.
• 2:00:54
  I mean, they literally put slug and slugfest and but you know,
• 2:00:59
  it's still entertaining racing. You know, Matthew LC Junior
• 2:01:03
  after having his little freak incident, you know, still
• 2:01:06
  finished the race, didn't go full throttle the rest of the
• 2:01:08
  night, but then came from pretty much the back of the feature and
• 2:01:12
  feature 2 still won that race had a battle.
• 2:01:15
  He had to earn it. But once he got up front, then
• 2:01:17
  he was OK. But you know, that bee feature,
• 2:01:20
  like I said, that bee feature was just that be feature too.
• 2:01:24
  I mean, I'm like this is wild shit.
• 2:01:26
  It's after 9. It is wild shit out here.
• 2:01:29
  And you know, so you had that right.
• 2:01:31
  So and the modifieds, the first modified feature was bumpy.
• 2:01:35
  The second feature, though, pretty clean.
• 2:01:38
  I in fact, they almost went Greenway checkered the whole
• 2:01:40
  race, which is what they kind of have all year.
• 2:01:43
  Like they've had great racing. Connor Landis and the leader got
• 2:01:47
  Gettin got tangled up. Connor took the tap, which is
• 2:01:51
  respectful thing to do. Like he knows he did it and you
• 2:01:55
  know, but you have things like that where it's like it's not
• 2:01:57
  the content of race or quality of racing here.
• 2:02:01
  So it's not the content that viewers can watch with their own
• 2:02:03
  eyes. It's what is it, right?
• 2:02:05
  Why aren't people not coming out to Corrigan, which is a
• 2:02:07
  beautiful facility. They have affordable food
• 2:02:10
  prices. They have, you know, the nice
• 2:02:14
  bathrooms they have like they do online ticketing.
• 2:02:18
  They have, you know, comfortable grandstands.
• 2:02:21
  It's like, so why are people not coming, right?
• 2:02:25
  Even on a Friday? It's not just a Sunday thing.
• 2:02:26
  It's why aren't they coming? Because you know, the you got a
• 2:02:29
  solid group of employees there who are trying their best,
• 2:02:33
  right? That doesn't mean every night's
• 2:02:35
  perfect. That doesn't mean every night's
• 2:02:36
  hunky Dory. But then it's like you got all
• 2:02:39
  these drivers who are coming, but you know, it's like, how can
• 2:02:44
  we get more? People out how can.
• 2:02:45
  Can can we get more people here? That's the tough part about the
• 2:02:49
  discussion. It always comes.
• 2:02:50
  Back to well, I don't know. Yeah, well, that's the thing,
• 2:02:52
  right? There are no answers.
• 2:02:53
  But then it's like, but if you go, you got to try.
• 2:02:56
  You got to try shit. We're after 9:00 you got?
• 2:02:58
  To try shit, Yeah, he's going to throw shit at the wall and see
• 2:03:01
  what's. Stick.
• 2:03:01
  Savannah Bananas. Look at what they did.
• 2:03:03
  They kind. Of broke the rules of baseball.
• 2:03:05
  Yeah, they made their own. And hey, it's not.
• 2:03:09
  That's really my I haven't seen it live, so maybe it's a little
• 2:03:11
  different, but it's not really my thing.
• 2:03:13
  But hey, it's somebody, not watches, yeah?
• 2:03:15
  Yeah, it's working. They're selling out MLB
• 2:03:17
  stadiums. And like football stadiums and
• 2:03:19
  shit like that, aren't they? So Yep, Yep, yeah, I I've not
• 2:03:23
  watched a. Game, but like I said that when
• 2:03:24
  I saw mom watch it the one time I went.
• 2:03:29
  I didn't know this as a thing TikTok.
• 2:03:32
  Yeah, but you know, but it's one of those things and, and and
• 2:03:35
  obviously she's a, you know, she's older, right?
• 2:03:38
  So that's it. But it's it must be marketing to
• 2:03:41
  her because, and you know what? I bet it's helping baseball a
• 2:03:44
  lot, too. Yeah.
• 2:03:46
  Yeah. Well, look at the numbers there.
• 2:03:47
  But I'm sure that the. There's been some crossover from
• 2:03:51
  people who've gotten into baseball because of whatever the
• 2:03:53
  goofy stuff in Savannah Bananas. Yep.
• 2:03:55
  I mean, because again, you got to take out the.
• 2:03:57
  Chicago Cubs because win or lose, Wrigley Field's always
• 2:03:59
  going to be full. I mean, it's Wrigley Fields,
• 2:04:01
  right? Tourist attraction as much.
• 2:04:03
  You right, right. You know you.
• 2:04:05
  Have those kind of teams who are always going to have of that,
• 2:04:08
  right? You know, Notre Dame, even in
• 2:04:10
  its worst years, still kind of filled the stadium, right?
• 2:04:15
  I watched them lose to Connecticut and triple.
• 2:04:17
  Overtime with sold out right right Marshall.
• 2:04:20
  Right, whatever, right. You know Michigan Stadium, they
• 2:04:24
  don't have a high turnover rate on their tickets like they win,
• 2:04:28
  lose or draw, right? Yeah, they are going to have
• 2:04:31
  different things. I mean it might take them a
• 2:04:33
  second to catch up, but still. But it's like so you have those
• 2:04:36
  brands who are going to have that, but then you have other
• 2:04:38
  brands who they just would love to have 50% full, right?
• 2:04:44
  That would be a sell out for them and so.
• 2:04:47
  I think it's one of those. That, you know, we need to have,
• 2:04:52
  and I've said this to some owners, it's almost like we need
• 2:04:54
  to have a brainstorming session with drivers, with stakeholders,
• 2:04:58
  with whomever, with sponsors, right?
• 2:05:01
  We need to get other voices in. And we may not be able to do
• 2:05:05
  everything someone says. That's not the reality.
• 2:05:07
  There's some things that like, well, insurance dictates that.
• 2:05:11
  So we can't change that, right? There are some things insurance
• 2:05:13
  does dictate, but there are other things where it's like,
• 2:05:16
  you know, if you just roll out and here's your race program,
• 2:05:19
  opening ceremony, heat races, intermission feature.
• 2:05:26
  OK, 1972 called and said it wants its program back right
• 2:05:32
  where you go to core again. And I know not everyone's a fan
• 2:05:34
  of it, but like for their Sunday specials, they were doing only
• 2:05:38
  features and then they did their twin features.
• 2:05:41
  It got a couple more people there, got some people to come
• 2:05:44
  out, but it's a little different pace, it's a little different,
• 2:05:47
  something you have. Australian pursuits can change
• 2:05:51
  things up a little bit. Even at Kalamazoo at our night
• 2:05:53
  of destruction on Saturday for the championship round of
• 2:05:56
  spectator races, rather than doing like a traditional
• 2:05:58
  spectator race where you stop at the start finish line, you line
• 2:06:01
  up like you're in Greece and then you green go and you one
• 2:06:06
  lap. They did rolling starts, they
• 2:06:08
  did something different with it. Now, the preliminary rounds
• 2:06:11
  were, you know, from a start. Stop.
• 2:06:14
  Start. But the championship was a
• 2:06:16
  rolling, it added a little element to it, a little
• 2:06:19
  something different and a little something fancy, right?
• 2:06:22
  You don't need to spice it up all that much.
• 2:06:24
  You just need to change things up and it's OK to change some
• 2:06:27
  nights up. I'm not saying change everything
• 2:06:30
  and do it all season, but like has special nights in there
• 2:06:33
  where like, hey, this night we're going to do Australian
• 2:06:36
  Australian pursuits and then we're going to go into features
• 2:06:40
  or the Australian pursuits are going to help set the feature or
• 2:06:43
  whatever weird stuff like do something different and see if
• 2:06:46
  it sticks or not. Twin features.
• 2:06:48
  Grundy had a packed crowd. Now super late models and night
• 2:06:52
  feature has been a long. Time Yeah, staple there.
• 2:06:54
  Yep, Now super late models help Lee.
• 2:06:57
  Schuler helps, but there are a lot of people who stayed after
• 2:07:00
  that feature too. So yes, there are a lot of
• 2:07:02
  people who left, but there are a lot of people who stayed too.
• 2:07:04
  They had a nice crowd, so it's like throw something different
• 2:07:08
  every now and then. I'm gonna give, I wanna give
• 2:07:11
  M40. Some credit on that.
• 2:07:12
  I think they one their theme nights that they do.
• 2:07:15
  I think that's a good idea and I don't know.
• 2:07:17
  I don't know their books, so I don't know how.
• 2:07:18
  Much of a difference is made, obviously, but I think it's a
• 2:07:20
  cool idea. For one, I think the way that
• 2:07:22
  they've marketed their big races in a lot of cases is cool.
• 2:07:26
  The judgement days, judgement days, I think that was really.
• 2:07:29
  Cool how they did that and also. I had one more point and I
• 2:07:32
  thought losing it, think about it, this isn't racing, but their
• 2:07:36
  night of destruction stuff when they leading up to that first
• 2:07:39
  one with Wichter. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:07:41
  It's like they were almost doing like skits on the payment
• 2:07:44
  between their page and Wichter's leading up to it.
• 2:07:45
  I thought that was awesome and I think that probably made a big
• 2:07:48
  difference. So, well, I think some of it is.
• 2:07:52
  You can't just. Do something once.
• 2:07:54
  And throw it out the window if it didn't work.
• 2:07:57
  And sometimes I think there's a hesitancy where if it didn't
• 2:08:01
  work once, we're not doing it again because people wanting
• 2:08:05
  owners and promoters, some not. And I'm not picking on anyone
• 2:08:08
  specifically, I'm just saying in general, they try it once
• 2:08:11
  because I see posts from all over New Mexico wherever I see
• 2:08:15
  promoters all the time posting stuff on Facebook.
• 2:08:18
  You got the guy down in Florida at Sunshine or whatever that is
• 2:08:22
  Speedway who's always something and but right, you can't just
• 2:08:27
  give it one time. You have to go a little further.
• 2:08:32
  Jim Leisure with his Figure 8. I told him last night, I said
• 2:08:34
  your figure eights are so fun to watch.
• 2:08:36
  And he said we had to work on it.
• 2:08:38
  He said. We had to put our arms around
• 2:08:40
  the guys and and we had to coach him and we had to do different
• 2:08:43
  things and we had to teach them how to put.
• 2:08:47
  On a show. You know, you don't, You're not
• 2:08:50
  crashing each other in the first lap.
• 2:08:51
  And then we take out the whole field and we have nothing left,
• 2:08:53
  right? Like, you know, do a few things,
• 2:08:56
  you know, like Tina Lewis is sharing crowd interaction, you
• 2:08:59
  know, theme nights, crowd interaction.
• 2:09:01
  I'm going to highlight that. Do you know what Grundy did at
• 2:09:03
  intermission? They rolled out a freaking bus
• 2:09:05
  with Big Daddy and on the roof. That's his nickname, Big Daddy
• 2:09:10
  with and he's their Victory Lane announcer.
• 2:09:12
  But then they dance. They sung.
• 2:09:14
  I went to get a jacket. I can hear the crowd and I had
• 2:09:18
  to walk a little bit away, but he's standing on the freaking
• 2:09:21
  bus. They did the T-shirt toss,
• 2:09:24
  right? So he's on the school bus with
• 2:09:25
  headset singing Sweet Caroline and something else.
• 2:09:29
  And then he did a promo at the same time as they're pulling
• 2:09:34
  off. Hey, if they didn't tell you, we
• 2:09:35
  have our night of thrills this coming Saturday.
• 2:09:38
  School bus, Figure 8 racing. And guess what was parked at the
• 2:09:41
  front entrance and along the highway there.
• 2:09:43
  When you pulled in, all you saw were like 1012, whatever it was,
• 2:09:47
  school buses, literally, you had to pull through them to pull
• 2:09:50
  into the parking lot. And they had banners everywhere
• 2:09:53
  advertising all all their shows. I took a couple pictures of them
• 2:09:57
  cuz I'm like, this isn't hard. It does cost like the banners
• 2:10:00
  cost some money, but they put their buses out there.
• 2:10:03
  Not every track has a front entrance like Grundy.
• 2:10:05
  Let's be real. Kalamazoo, Springport, Corgan
• 2:10:10
  oil, right? They have more real estate.
• 2:10:11
  They can do that. New Paris does not have that
• 2:10:14
  real estate and 40 does and 40 has some real estate to work
• 2:10:17
  with. New Paris.
• 2:10:18
  They're so landlocked. They don't have that with the
• 2:10:21
  way their fence is, they can't put something at the front there
• 2:10:23
  like that. But you know, could they put
• 2:10:26
  something across the street with like a, if they're going to do
• 2:10:30
  like a night of destruction or late model St. stock, like ask a
• 2:10:33
  guy who's local, like, hey, can you come out here?
• 2:10:36
  We want to hang a banner or whatever.
• 2:10:37
  And I'm saying, and I'm not picking on New Paris.
• 2:10:39
  I'm just giving an example of like what Grundy did that seemed
• 2:10:42
  to work right? And obviously night of thrills
• 2:10:44
  and night instructions are going to sell crowds anyways.
• 2:10:47
  But but if you have someone on a school bus who's literally and
• 2:10:51
  that bus sent race that night, it didn't do anything other than
• 2:10:53
  pulled out. He shot a few T-shirts and they
• 2:10:56
  pulled it off the track. It's like the new Paris Fire
• 2:10:58
  Department coming on and watering the track, right?
• 2:11:00
  So it's like if you could do that kind of crowd interaction
• 2:11:04
  and your cheek. We didn't do Mankind Monday
• 2:11:06
  tonight, but you're doing a cheap plug at the same time for
• 2:11:09
  upcoming shows or schedule. Like you're you're literally
• 2:11:12
  dancing and singing and throwing out T-shirts and telling them to
• 2:11:14
  come to the next show. Right, Right.
• 2:11:16
  Yeah. Scott Gates in the chat one.
• 2:11:18
  Thing I remember from the 90s going to Kalamazoo is the old
• 2:11:21
  souvenir souvenir program. Yeah, I talk about the 100% we
• 2:11:24
  should bring back souvenir programs.
• 2:11:26
  I love those and miss those. That's definitely something that
• 2:11:29
  they're so expensive. To make nowadays.
• 2:11:31
  I hear you. I hear you, Matt Elsie.
• 2:11:33
  And them did that. And they got stuck with so many
• 2:11:36
  programs they ended up they lost money doing it they cuz they
• 2:11:39
  made lucky programs with OK well and this is my next point but
• 2:11:43
  even. Simpler when I was a kid at
• 2:11:44
  South Bend I very distinctly remember because it was a big
• 2:11:47
  part of me going to the racetrack.
• 2:11:49
  You walked in the pic when you bought your tickets.
• 2:11:51
  At the ticket gate there was a stack of yellow printed paper
• 2:11:54
  that had the point standings with printed out on them.
• 2:11:56
  Yes, I agree with that point. Stand.
• 2:11:59
  Yep, I sat there. That was my Bible.
• 2:12:01
  Sat there. You could match the 55 inch
• 2:12:03
  Chuck Maggio 42 is Dave Mania. I sat there and announced the
• 2:12:07
  races with my pit, my point standings in front of me because
• 2:12:09
  I have my names and numbers. The little stuff like that makes
• 2:12:11
  a difference. Yep, it's to connect with the
• 2:12:13
  drivers that way. Yep, little.
• 2:12:15
  Things printer paper. Printer paper, Yep.
• 2:12:17
  And and Illinois when? I was in Illinois, the one thing
• 2:12:21
  that I liked hearing, and I'm on the roof at Kalamazoo, so I
• 2:12:24
  can't hear every conversation. I'm on the roof in New Paris.
• 2:12:26
  I can't hear every conversation. Galesburg.
• 2:12:29
  I'm around people and I haven't heard it at Galesburg or Corgan
• 2:12:32
  Oil. But what I heard there's
• 2:12:34
  families in front of me who are going what, because they had a
• 2:12:37
  program, I believe they had something and it, and it had a
• 2:12:40
  spot in there with boxes. Pick a number for a race and
• 2:12:43
  they were picking numbers and something like that.
• 2:12:45
  Yep, I want the yellow car, the yellow car.
• 2:12:48
  And so 'cause they, the kid couldn't read the number.
• 2:12:50
  So the dad said, Oh, you want that car?
• 2:12:53
  And they wrote it down. And I thought, man, that's so
• 2:12:55
  cool. They're picking numbers.
• 2:12:56
  I remember that we used to do that all the time at Hartford
• 2:12:59
  and the Hartford program. They literally had a spot with a
• 2:13:02
  spreadsheet box basically of, you know, pick your numbers,
• 2:13:05
  right. And you know, kids club, you
• 2:13:08
  just don't see those kind of things anymore.
• 2:13:11
  You know, they do. I mean, they do cost money to
• 2:13:13
  get trophies and all that, but you know, that's one thing you
• 2:13:15
  just don't see a lot of our kids clubs and places.
• 2:13:19
  And so so I definitely think there's room for growth, but it
• 2:13:22
  always comes down to here's what I'll tell you.
• 2:13:25
  I hear owners and promoters in my ear right now going, so who
• 2:13:28
  does that? Who's paying for that?
• 2:13:31
  Who's working yet? Because like this Saturday, this
• 2:13:34
  past Saturday at Kalamazoo Quality Graphics, they didn't,
• 2:13:38
  they weren't able to sell as much maybe as they could have
• 2:13:41
  because they didn't, they couldn't find help to go into
• 2:13:44
  walk to the stands to sell a souvenir program or to sell a
• 2:13:47
  glow up stick or whatever. But or do 5050 at the same time.
• 2:13:51
  Doesn't that kind of go back to our discussion?
• 2:13:53
  About having a problem marketing though the support marketing
• 2:13:56
  itself, I think the tracks are just.
• 2:13:57
  As much a fault. With that, I know it's a hard
• 2:13:59
  job, I know there's a lot of money on the line and I know
• 2:14:01
  they're short staffed in a lot of situations, but I do think
• 2:14:04
  there's a lot of times they could be doing more too.
• 2:14:07
  Yeah, and I'm not going to disagree, right?
• 2:14:09
  Because I think, again, it's not everything costs money.
• 2:14:12
  It might cost a little time, which time is money?
• 2:14:15
  A $20 carload night does not cost the track.
• 2:14:17
  Money and then it might ultimately, you know, work out
• 2:14:20
  where maybe they don't make as much or whatever, but I don't
• 2:14:22
  know, that makes a difference. Maybe we get some more people in
• 2:14:24
  the stands and maybe those fun of those people come back.
• 2:14:27
  Yep. Well, I think that's the thing.
• 2:14:29
  That that is the thing that you know, Kalamazoo.
• 2:14:34
  Did Christmas in July 10. Dollar ticket.
• 2:14:37
  And it felt full, right? It obviously wasn't a sellout,
• 2:14:40
  you know, like Saturday, but it was full.
• 2:14:42
  It felt full, right? And and it looked nice.
• 2:14:45
  And, you know, you add it up and you go, OK, you know, you could
• 2:14:49
  have someone who says, well, but I could have got $15.00 for each
• 2:14:52
  person here, $18.00 for each person here.
• 2:14:55
  OK, do that. How many people leave?
• 2:14:58
  How many people did you not get because it was a 15 dollar
• 2:15:01
  $18.00 ticket? And then how many people spent 8
• 2:15:04
  to 15? Dollars less at the concession
• 2:15:06
  stand because they spent more dollars to get in.
• 2:15:08
  So, you know, I don't think you necessarily need to do.
• 2:15:10
  Like a dollar night, which I know is super popular in
• 2:15:12
  Northwest Indiana, but the concession sales are bonkers.
• 2:15:15
  Like I will give credit for that, right?
• 2:15:17
  But I don't think you do need to do a dollar night.
• 2:15:19
  But I do think like, OK, at $15.00, you had 200 fans.
• 2:15:25
  At $10, can I get 400 fans? Can I get 500 fans?
• 2:15:28
  Can I like? You already have empty seats, so
• 2:15:30
  you're not losing money that way.
• 2:15:34
  Could you give a discount? Could you do a happy hour where
• 2:15:36
  if you come between 3:00 and 4:00, gates open at 212
• 2:15:42
  wherever, you know, each track is different, but happy hour you
• 2:15:45
  come now you get a discount at kind of Niall's haunted house
• 2:15:49
  does this kind of stuff where they have discount coupons and
• 2:15:51
  discount tickets and discount things where hey, you come
• 2:15:54
  during this time, now can everyone come during that time?
• 2:15:57
  No, I understand that. But, you know, I think, you
• 2:16:00
  know, you could do it maybe from, like a, if your program
• 2:16:03
  starts at 6:00, maybe from 4:00 to 5:00, it's a happy hour.
• 2:16:07
  All tickets are 10 bucks. I could see where that could get
• 2:16:10
  in trouble. That's why I'm thinking if you
• 2:16:11
  did it earlier. But then it's like, are you
• 2:16:14
  rewarding people who could come early?
• 2:16:15
  Not everyone can. Or, you know, do you find ways
• 2:16:19
  to do it? Because right now, at a $15
• 2:16:21
  ticket, if your bleachers are empty, well, you didn't make
• 2:16:23
  money anyways. So if you did a $10 ticket, at
• 2:16:27
  least you got $10. Yeah, maybe you sold one or two
• 2:16:30
  more. Tickets.
• 2:16:30
  It'd probably be more. Than that but you know you sold
• 2:16:33
  a few more tickets that you did in at 15 so it's like I don't
• 2:16:36
  know does it really does it hurt you because it's empty right now
• 2:16:39
  So you know like obviously people are not rolling running
• 2:16:43
  each each other over to get a seat so but with that I know
• 2:16:47
  it's like 916 and I think we could go ahead I had another
• 2:16:50
  point that I lost so I think that.
• 2:16:52
  Means it's time to Oh no, but I mean.
• 2:16:55
  Like I said, we went a little. Longer, like I said, you know, I
• 2:16:57
  apologize for some of the show graphics.
• 2:16:59
  I've just obviously not in a clear state of mind, but I'm
• 2:17:02
  like, I'm going to push through. We're going to get through the
• 2:17:04
  show and and, and all that and I'm going to you know, but I
• 2:17:10
  obviously clicked a few different things wrong tonight
• 2:17:12
  than usual. Usually pretty smooth with it,
• 2:17:14
  but I'm going to give myself grace today.
• 2:17:16
  So, but other than that, I will come up with new questions for
• 2:17:20
  next or new topics for next time.
• 2:17:23
  Again, anyone can Facebook or whatever say, hey, make this a
• 2:17:26
  question or topic Like it doesn't have to be just Lewis
• 2:17:29
  coming up and stuff all the time, right?
• 2:17:30
  So, you know, we want everyone to engage.
• 2:17:35
  With this obviously. With this discussion, there are
• 2:17:37
  a lot of people, especially Tina.
• 2:17:39
  I want to thank Tina. She's a very loyal listener on
• 2:17:41
  all the time. Obviously Scott Gates, Bill
• 2:17:44
  Russell's usually on here. I didn't see Bill tonight and
• 2:17:46
  she jumped in. Obviously moment had Ralph was
• 2:17:49
  in here Benny in April. A lot of people start watching
• 2:17:52
  from the start of the show. But again, I want to thank
• 2:17:54
  everyone for for joining us tonight.
• 2:17:57
  We kept you. I mean it's not unusual for us
• 2:17:59
  to be about 9:15, but tonight I wasn't I I always say this Buju.
• 2:18:03
  I don't plan to go late, but then I don't know.
• 2:18:07
  But the discussion's fun too and that's where I kind of cut back
• 2:18:10
  on guests. I'm even thinking next time if
• 2:18:13
  you know, not next Monday because that's Grundy centric.
• 2:18:16
  But like as we get to October and it's more truly offseason
• 2:18:19
  about kind of maybe having guests in the first hour, then a
• 2:18:22
  guest in the second hour, but putting some things between just
• 2:18:26
  to kind of change it up a little bit so that people don't feel
• 2:18:29
  like they're watching the same movie all the time.
• 2:18:32
  But I hope the I hope that people like the roulette, you
• 2:18:36
  know, like I said, throw in if you have other segments, you
• 2:18:38
  know, you that you want us to do.
• 2:18:40
  I'm all for stuff because as we cut back on Thursday, I want to
• 2:18:43
  bring some of those elements over and of course, the roulette
• 2:18:47
  could be sponsored. Definitely looking for marketing
• 2:18:50
  partners. We have a couple.
• 2:18:53
  I mean, we have a lot of, you know, the podcast can definitely
• 2:18:56
  be a lot of leverage for some marketing opportunities with
• 2:18:59
  different things. This could be, you know,
• 2:19:01
  somebody's re rewind roulette and have their logo right there.
• 2:19:04
  As you see, I'm dying to do an ad read.
• 2:19:07
  I'm dying to. Do somebody sponsor the show so
• 2:19:09
  I can do an? Ad read Yep.
• 2:19:11
  I mean and I don't want to get. That's one thing I do watch some
• 2:19:13
  podcasts, but and I listen to Busted open radio, right?
• 2:19:16
  And they have some reads they have to do.
• 2:19:17
  I'm like, oh, it kicks away from the discussion though.
• 2:19:20
  But but I want to build in breaks like we did between Sean
• 2:19:23
  and Bree, right? I purposely built in a break for
• 2:19:25
  us. That way we can kind of preview
• 2:19:27
  this for those who want to stay around.
• 2:19:29
  But you know, as you see Federated Auto parts, the LHD
• 2:19:32
  tailing and national compact logos on this entire show.
• 2:19:35
  So we can add other sponsors there and your logo will be
• 2:19:38
  there the entire show. Engage the whole time, not just
• 2:19:41
  for a segment here, a segment there.
• 2:19:43
  Listen to the silky smooth voice.
• 2:19:44
  You don't want this doing an ad read for you.
• 2:19:47
  No, I mean we could do ad reads. I'm not.
• 2:19:48
  Against that, right, I just, you know, I, I listen to some of
• 2:19:51
  those podcasts or shows, I'm like, oh, it, it just takes away
• 2:19:54
  sometimes like bust it open Billy.
• 2:19:57
  I'm a weird radio nerd so I OK. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:20:00
  In a weird way, yeah. But yeah, like on I 'cause I
• 2:20:04
  listen to Busted Open Radio when I'm driving to tracks and and
• 2:20:07
  Bully and Dave Lagreca, Bully range of Lagreca will be deep in
• 2:20:11
  a conversation. They're like, OK, they come back
• 2:20:13
  and they do the Chumba Casino ad in a Chumba, chumba, chumba,
• 2:20:17
  Chumba Chumba. I'm like, oh, it's such a good
• 2:20:19
  discussion. Like, I hate that one.
• 2:20:21
  I hate that you had to go to commercial.
• 2:20:22
  Yeah, I get it, though. You got to pay the bills, but
• 2:20:24
  two like, oh, now I got to listen to that stupid.
• 2:20:28
  I almost said a different word, stupid Chumba casino.
• 2:20:32
  Now I get it. They sponsored racing and maybe
• 2:20:34
  there's a thing but but and they make it fun where they have like
• 2:20:38
  the Chumba and the whole background Chumba, chumba,
• 2:20:40
  chumba, chumba and they do different things.
• 2:20:42
  Like they make it fun. And I'm not against ad reads,
• 2:20:44
  but sometimes like it's just so produced.
• 2:20:47
  That reminds me Dale on the Dale Junior podcast.
• 2:20:49
  They've been running an ad for the past few months for
• 2:20:51
  something called Peyronie's disease, which you know what
• 2:20:54
  that is. Look up and boy, it's wild.
• 2:20:57
  That this has been an ad replay five months on the Dale Junior
• 2:21:00
  download. Some of them are crazy.
• 2:21:01
  I'll hear what you're saying. I'm here.
• 2:21:02
  What? You're.
• 2:21:03
  Saying. I mean, could you be the guy?
• 2:21:05
  Could you imagine the one who has to read the one for like
• 2:21:08
  poop Ray or whatever that is like or whatever.
• 2:21:10
  What is it called? Potpourri or whatever.
• 2:21:14
  Yeah. And you got dude wipes?
• 2:21:15
  No. Dude wipes.
• 2:21:16
  Yeah, Yeah, Blue. Chew I like some of the ones
• 2:21:19
  that they have to. I mean, we're giving cheap plugs
• 2:21:21
  here right now, But some of the ones that they have to read, I'm
• 2:21:23
  like, I just want to be the guy who writes the check to the guy
• 2:21:26
  who had to read that. You know, I just want to I want
• 2:21:30
  to be in those. I want to be in that production
• 2:21:32
  meeting where you hand the script over and say, I need you
• 2:21:34
  to read this on the air. It's a 32nd read and it's also
• 2:21:39
  talking about all these things. So have fun.
• 2:21:42
  I'm like, I just want to be. A part of those.
• 2:21:44
  Conversations sometimes, but be that you have erectile
• 2:21:47
  dysfunction yeah yeah oh boy. I think we officially went off
• 2:21:53
  the rails now, but hopefully no one's constipated because
• 2:21:57
  Preparation H, at least according to Austin Power Sun,
• 2:22:00
  does feel good on the whole, but.
• 2:22:06
  Sign us out of here. Get us out of here.
• 2:22:09
  So with that said, if you need preparation, preparation, Asian
• 2:22:14
  life, just know Austin Powers, son.
• 2:22:17
  I forget his name, damn it. But now that it's going to
• 2:22:20
  bother me now I'm going to have to watch Austin Powers.
• 2:22:22
  But it just whatever but. Don't forget this.
• 2:22:27
  Thursday, Boojie and I are back on Thursday is we have stuck
• 2:22:31
  pretty close to one hour show each time on Thursdays.
• 2:22:34
  That's not going to change. That's it's going to be that is
• 2:22:37
  our quick show. That's why it was easier to cut
• 2:22:39
  out of the lineup because it's like it opens up our Thursday.
• 2:22:42
  So hopefully, Boojie, you've enjoyed some of your Thursday's
• 2:22:45
  open and then don't forget, Oh, that was the quick trivia and
• 2:22:49
  I'm just clicking shit. But Tina.
• 2:22:51
  Tina Lewis, 24 years. Yeah, Tina Lewis, you know, 24
• 2:22:55
  years. That was our trivia.
• 2:22:57
  So if you have a trivia question, like I said, I'm going
• 2:22:59
  to ask Ron for some things. But if you want some trivia in
• 2:23:02
  here, you can be a part of a rebrain brain Buster, which you
• 2:23:05
  also could use a marketing partner.
• 2:23:09
  Of course, like I said, we have plenty of room for a logo here
• 2:23:12
  to have the rewind roulette. And I like those colors, by the
• 2:23:14
  way. I worked on that for a little
• 2:23:15
  bit today. It was a nice logo it looks
• 2:23:18
  like. It looks like something that
• 2:23:19
  would be on top of a slot. Machine.
• 2:23:20
  I don't know how. Many casino.
• 2:23:21
  That was the goal. That was the goal.
• 2:23:23
  So I. Looked at casino logos and
• 2:23:25
  roulette logos and I looked at different ones and I did this
• 2:23:28
  while crying by the way, just so you know too so I also I'm not
• 2:23:31
  trying to laugh at you, but yeah Oh no so I.
• 2:23:34
  Obviously was. In all the fields when I was
• 2:23:36
  doing this and you know, and I'm like, well, it's our same.
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  It's the exact same font. I just I literally copied the
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  Monday night rewind font. I copied the logo, I changed the
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  letters and then I changed the colors and did different things.
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  So I do like that it's I like those colors and if I didn't
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  like our rewind logo too much, I would change those to those
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  colors. But The thing is that I don't
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  remember the combo that I exactly did here.
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  So to duplicate it would be a pain in the ass because I don't
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  quite remember how I did it. But once it landed there, I'm
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  like, I like that and I'm done. But, but again, Brie Brady was
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  at at the start of the show. So if you missed a conversation
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  with Brie Brady, she's definitely nervous to come on.
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  You know, she did a fantastic job.
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  But but she was about 710 is when she came on.
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  So if you look at the time stamps, she would be about 10
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  minutes into the show, 11 minutes because our entrance is
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  one minute. So she's about 11 minutes in and
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  she went about the 1st 40 minutes give or take.
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  And then Sean Sprague was the next 30 ish minutes after that.
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  And then since about 8:15 and I have been doing our roulette
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  discussions where we talked about a couple of things.
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  That one, like I said, we're not going to do 3 topics all the
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  time. The goal was one topic.
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  But I thought well, we kind of got through that.
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  It's about 8:30 so we could throw in one more.
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  But next Monday is going to be a very Bahama bracket heavy show.
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  So if you're interested in the Bahama brackets or you want to
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  know, you know, you want to know anything about Granny County
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  Speedway, we're going to have Brian Kusaba on.
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  He's going to help get a bunch of guests on that I'm going to
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  then connect with and send the links.
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  He even mentioned possibly getting next Tremier Rich Bowl
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  since they have racist and they're more local.
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  But we'll talk a lot about that. And then don't forget, I know
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  Parker from MCR Dwarf cars. Message me for champions.
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  Please let your champions know if you know championship drivers
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  that you know. We have segments for them so
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  definitely want to get them on. We can even get them on
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  Thursdays too. I would prefer Mondays because
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  that is the flagship, but you know, we can spread them out on
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  Thursdays too to get them on and get through all the Champions.
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  So I will be reaching out to more.
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  I know a couple people already commented like Kyle Klein and
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  some others, but I figure we just had a couple different
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  things going on that it changed the the the goal originally.
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  But Bree was her first official champion getting on.
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  So I'm glad that we were able to talk with her.
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  But other than that, Buju, I got to pick the right graphic here.
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  It's not Showtime. It's extra closing time, but I
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  don't have a graphic for that, so we'll just say Showtime.
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  But anyways, I hope everyone has a great night, a great week.
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  Other than that, now I got to. Get in a frame.
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  All right, Buju, it's almost time to turn left.
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  And go fast because we'll see you at the races.
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  See ya.