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*Patreon Exclusive* New Jedi Order Book 1 Vector Prime · Star Wars Alliance

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the first of many Patreon recordings
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Speaker 1: with this new series that Katie and I will be reviewing. Guys,
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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and apologize. We just literally
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Speaker 1: talked about this right before recording about a structure of these.
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Speaker 1: It will get fine tuned and it will possibly be
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Speaker 1: perfected by the end of this. But there's only like
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Speaker 1: twenty books in this exactly.
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Speaker 2: But the series that we are.
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Speaker 1: Going to be talking about is Star Wars the New
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Speaker 1: Jedi Order.
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Speaker 2: Katie, excuse me.
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Speaker 1: Katie brought this on to me about a month ago,
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Speaker 1: a little less than a month ago. Little did I
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Speaker 1: know that Katie has already talked about this book. I
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Speaker 1: talk Akay book, Yeah, on two occasions. There is a
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Speaker 1: scene in this book that you've talked about twice with
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Speaker 1: me being in Star Wars Alliance. We've talked about one
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Speaker 1: particular scene, and I've said before like, oh, that seems
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Speaker 1: very traumatic. I wonder how it's all gonna play out.
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Speaker 1: It was very traumatic, and uh, it played out for
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Speaker 1: the rest of the book, by the way, like that
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Speaker 1: was all the rest of the book, y'all.
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Speaker 3: This book came out. This book came out October fifth,
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine is by R. A. Solidur. So this
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Speaker 3: book is mega olds weed. This is your spoiler warning
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Speaker 3: if you haven't read this, where you're not like Clay
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Speaker 3: hid the big moment. But I'm gonna tell you what
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Speaker 3: it is right now. So the five four three two
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Speaker 3: one the moment that Clay is talking about that, yes,
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Speaker 3: I had talked about that several times. Is Chewie dies
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Speaker 3: in this book. It's the first time. And I highlighted
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Speaker 3: a quote by Han where he talks about his bubble
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Speaker 3: and how he thought, like, oh, the Skywalker solo family
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Speaker 3: is invincible, like I never thought it would happen to
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Speaker 3: any of us. Like he literally says that in the
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Speaker 3: book it was supposed to be a major moment to
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Speaker 3: kick off this new era of Star Wars books. And
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Speaker 3: so R. A. Salvator, I think he wrote the Goody
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Speaker 3: not the Goonies, ghost ghost bumps.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: He has a lot of legend of drizzt.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so uh Salvator is very big in the UH
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Speaker 1: D and D.
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Speaker 3: Right, that's right. We talked about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very fantasy driven, which when.
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Speaker 1: You read this it is I think that is one
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Speaker 1: of my only complaints. And this will go into our
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Speaker 1: overall like thoughts of this book, and I want to
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Speaker 1: get this one out of the way first because I
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Speaker 1: think it is my only thing that I have to
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Speaker 1: kind of nitpick.
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Speaker 2: About this book. M hm.
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Speaker 1: Salvatore was like, oh, I have to write science fiction,
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Speaker 1: so I have to make this the most complicated thirteen
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Speaker 1: pages of chapter that I could possibly do, and like
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Speaker 1: there is he does. He does it with like almost
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Speaker 1: every chapter he gets on this on he gets on
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Speaker 1: this like writing rampage of just like descriptive things that
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Speaker 1: are just so freaking science y that I'm just like,
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Speaker 1: I need to take a break from this.
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Speaker 2: I like, let's move on, please.
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Speaker 3: I had honestly forgotten about this. It's been. Like I
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Speaker 3: said in today's episode of Star Wars line, I read
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Speaker 3: this book probably six or seven times is probably is
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Speaker 3: like I love this series. This is a series that
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Speaker 3: I grew up with. This Like we talk about like
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Speaker 3: Crystal Star, Children of the Jedi as like being like
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Speaker 3: where I got my start, but like this, this is
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Speaker 3: where I grew to love Star Wars right here, because
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Speaker 3: the use on Vong are just creepy and like so overwhelming,
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Speaker 3: but like one of my biggest complaints with some of
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Speaker 3: the newer Cannon books, has been so many perspective shifts,
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Speaker 3: but I forgot how many perspective shifts take place in
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Speaker 3: this book, and they are a lot more jarring than
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Speaker 3: I remember them being, because like in the newer books,
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Speaker 3: you have like a little m dash, little Jedi symbol
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Speaker 3: if it's happening within the same chapter, as like your
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Speaker 3: signal for a perspective change or a new chapter. But
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Speaker 3: in this one is literally paragraph one, Luke and Mara,
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Speaker 3: paragraph two, uh Lando and Han like it.
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Speaker 1: It kind of just pops off and again with like
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Speaker 1: we like, I've talked about this a lot in the
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Speaker 1: last three years that we've been podcasting, but it's only
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Speaker 1: been about three years since Katie has gotten me to
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Speaker 1: teach myself.
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Speaker 2: How to scan read.
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Speaker 1: And when you're hitting these pages where you have three
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Speaker 1: different perspectives in five different pages, it's like it's it's
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Speaker 1: so jarring that you're like, hold on, back it up,
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Speaker 1: what chapter am I on?
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Speaker 2: Who am I reading? What's going on? Uh So this
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Speaker 2: would take me a while.
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Speaker 1: And I want to say this and I'm literally only
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Speaker 1: saying this because this is Patreon. There is a dedicated
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel that and I found out, like I looked
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Speaker 1: more into it.
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Speaker 2: I guess they're just really big into Star Wars. They
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Speaker 2: are really.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because so these books don't have audiobooks diys, so
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Speaker 3: a lot of people apparently decided to do like text
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Speaker 3: to speech and things. So Clay did that. I read
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Speaker 3: like book.
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Speaker 4: I did the the YouTube video for this book, I
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Speaker 4: would I would say about thirty five to.
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Speaker 1: The my reading experience was listening to this, and then
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Speaker 1: I was just reading the hell out of it, like
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Speaker 1: right before bed, right when I was waking up, and
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Speaker 1: during my lunch break, because I took my book to
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Speaker 1: work with me, So while I was doing stuff in
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Speaker 1: the warehouse at work, I was listening to the YouTube video.
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Speaker 1: While I was doing dishes here at home, I was
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Speaker 1: listening to.
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Speaker 2: The YouTube video.
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Speaker 1: And I will say, the text to speech voice is
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Speaker 1: not as super robotic, and I didn't even know that
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Speaker 1: it was text to speech until the very end of
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Speaker 1: the novel, where I was literally finishing up dishes before
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Speaker 1: we started recording that. It was like, oh, thank you
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Speaker 1: for blah blah blah, and please know that this was
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Speaker 1: a text to speech blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, holy crap.
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Speaker 1: This sounds like almost like a narrator, which is kind
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Speaker 1: of terrifying by the way, considering like all of the
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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on with like AI audio books and
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Speaker 1: how voice actors are like fighting for that and like
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep their their jobs with the
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Speaker 1: voice acting and everything else.
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Speaker 2: With these with audible and all of these things.
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Speaker 1: So that's absolutely terrifying, which is why, like I even
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Speaker 1: went on this rant while we were recording on our
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Speaker 1: railer show trying to just pick normal freaking physical books
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Speaker 1: and reading them with my eyeballs instead of just listening
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Speaker 1: to them with my ear. But yeah, like the going
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Speaker 1: back to the actual book, I just felt like sometimes
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Speaker 1: it was way too sci fi, but the overall story
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Speaker 1: I thought was really fun. So, uh, talking about that
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Speaker 1: structure and we're going to talk about these books. One
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Speaker 1: of the first things we mentioned before jumping on this
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Speaker 1: recording is favorite characters.
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Speaker 2: I really liked Jana.
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Speaker 1: I knew you would, and surprisingly like she has a
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Speaker 1: lot of dot she has a lot to do, but
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Speaker 1: she doesn't have a lot to do in this book.
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Speaker 1: She's kind of there, but she is like around like
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Speaker 1: she she is. You kind of feel like her in
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Speaker 1: the sense of like you're also in the background, you're
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Speaker 1: absorbing the information, and this is all what Jane is
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Speaker 1: doing because she is there to learn from everybody in
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Speaker 1: this book, which I do love.
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Speaker 2: I do love that.
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Speaker 1: Like in the very beginning of this book, like we
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Speaker 1: find out that she is being basically uh.
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Speaker 3: So she's a Jedi Knight, but she's completing an apprenticeship
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Speaker 3: under Lara. Yeah, and her brothers Jason and Anaka are
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Speaker 3: Anakin are doing the same thing under Luke. So that's
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Speaker 3: kind of the first couple of perspectives that you start
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Speaker 3: off with in the book. But I really love Mara
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Speaker 3: and Jana's relationship as kind of almost sisters innocence or like,
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Speaker 3: like it's like that like those sisters where they're like
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Speaker 3: twenty years old then they have a sibling kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like that, I feel like with Mara
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Speaker 3: and Jana. I don't know, Like, I really love this book.
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Speaker 3: It's full of a lot of heart with all the
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Speaker 3: different characters. That's one of my favorite things that Salvator
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Speaker 3: does is he really just expands on the characters in
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Speaker 3: ways you didn't think you need it. And so like
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Speaker 3: in particular and reading this book because I think this
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Speaker 3: is the first time I've read this book since I
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Speaker 3: had my migraine diagnosis, and so getting to know mar
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Speaker 3: again when she's fighting the molecular disease is really powerful
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Speaker 3: and heartbreaking for me.
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Speaker 1: Now, Like I didn't know what the hell was going
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Speaker 1: on because they they don't touch on it like the
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Speaker 1: first the first instance, like something happens, they kind of
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Speaker 1: just like push bast it.
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Speaker 2: But then there's this.
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Speaker 1: Whole moment where you get to see maa kind of
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Speaker 1: in her feelings vulnerable for I don't know how much time.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a lot. By the way, I
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Speaker 1: want to go ahead and say this from the books
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Speaker 1: that we have personally read on the Star Wars Alliance show,
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Speaker 1: we have read the Throng trilogy, and we have read
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Speaker 1: two books in the Jedi Academy series. We're still missing
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Speaker 1: that third one. And then I have personally read Eye Jedi,
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Speaker 1: which I have found out is kind.
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Speaker 2: Of in between.
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Speaker 1: Book two and three of Jedi Academy. So that's all
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Speaker 1: I have seen and or heard from Mara. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So I've never really seen Maara ever vulnerable, So when
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Speaker 1: I see her in this book, bawling her eyes out
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Speaker 1: because of how weak she is getting from this disease,
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Speaker 1: and then there's like a serious conversation about conception if
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Speaker 1: she's ever going to be able to do that. I
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Speaker 1: was like, somebody who is a new parent, I've had
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Speaker 1: these conversations with Abby because at one point there was
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Speaker 1: like our thought process was, Wow, we don't think we're
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Speaker 1: ever gonna have kids because we just kept trying and
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Speaker 1: nothing was happening. Yeah, So to be in that moment
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Speaker 1: again kind of was very surprising for the character of Mara.
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Speaker 2: I think, like, honestly, I.
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Speaker 1: Would have expected that kind of storyline to hit with Leah,
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Speaker 1: not with Mara because of how Marara was introduced. But
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Speaker 1: I think it's stronger with Maraa because of the character
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Speaker 1: of who she is.
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I do as well. And there's like some
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Speaker 3: really powerful quotes in like later books from her, like
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Speaker 3: as she like reflects on it and everything. We won't
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Speaker 3: go into that now, but like some of my favorite
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Speaker 3: quotes from Star Wars have been from Maraa Jade, and
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Speaker 3: it's like there was some more that I was highlighting
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Speaker 3: in this one. I was like, man, that's so good,
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Speaker 3: Like it's just really powerful stuff, especially like so I'm
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Speaker 3: looking at her Wikipedia and apparently because I did not
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Speaker 3: remember this, her disease story takes place in another like
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Speaker 3: it's in like a magazine story, so like you, like
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Speaker 3: most people probably have not read that. But yeah, Mara
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Speaker 3: is really powerful in this one, especially now coming from
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Speaker 3: I've got chronic disease issues. So she's definitely one of
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Speaker 3: my favorites in here. Danny, I forgot how much I
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Speaker 3: love Danny h Danny Queen is a twenty one year
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Speaker 3: old scientist who is basically the first time the first
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Speaker 3: human to knowingly interact with the Yuzon vong. And she's
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Speaker 3: so good. She's so inquisitive but gets so strong, Like
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Speaker 3: what did you think of gilman Car declaring her as worthy?
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Speaker 3: But like the Prefect Tagara doesn't declare the Jedi Knight worthy.
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Speaker 2: Uh Yeoman Carr.
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Speaker 3: Yelman Car was the scientist hiding the use on Bong,
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Speaker 3: hiding on Belkadon.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I thought all of that was interesting.
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Speaker 1: I thought this was okay. So again I did say,
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Speaker 1: I do want to pull back from my statement from
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Speaker 1: the very beginning because this part so I did say, hey,
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Speaker 1: sometimes this book was a way to science fiction.
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Speaker 2: Wait, like it leaned. I did feel like it leaned
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Speaker 2: way more into like a or the thing.
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Speaker 1: Like some of the eight like the classic eighties sci fi.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people love that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of that, but I do
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Speaker 1: love the aesthetics sometimes, Like the background that we are
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Speaker 1: literally having in this recording room right now, is that
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Speaker 1: aesthetic for sure?
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Speaker 2: But like the mystery of the of the what is
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Speaker 2: the species again? The use onong you can just call them, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the vong and like.
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Speaker 1: We also get like this uh uh racist against droids, dude,
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Speaker 1: Like like there was There's so much here that I
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Speaker 1: did like because it leaned into the sci fi.
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Speaker 3: M hm. So is the character you're talking about now,
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Speaker 3: I'm anure and so that's not so he's a techno folk.
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Speaker 3: The whole species is a techno folk. Oh. So, like
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Speaker 3: you see Yoman Car when Luke and Maracota beltadon, Yeoman
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Speaker 3: Car loses it when he sees R Shoot two, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: because he's like you should not be here.
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Speaker 2: Like, so was it what?
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Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was Car or if it
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Speaker 1: was anore. That like even made C three po really
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Speaker 1: like uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was three po with a nore.
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Speaker 1: A nore, Yeah, because like anre like like he kind
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Speaker 1: of like leans in and like is like saying all
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Speaker 1: of these like really creepy and like hey, if you
17:50
Speaker 1: don't leave, I'm gonna kill you type of things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: C three is like peace out and like that's the
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Speaker 1: first I think it's the first time in all of
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Speaker 1: the three pos like history that he was speechless, like
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Speaker 1: he didn't have anything to say, and he like he
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Speaker 1: just got the hell out of air.
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Speaker 2: I thought that.
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Speaker 1: Was so interesting because there's a there's even a moment
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Speaker 1: near the beginning of the story where again it's one
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Speaker 1: of those moments where you're like you have the perspective
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Speaker 1: of you're you're in this middle of dialogue with uh
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Speaker 1: with Leah, and then like the flip of a page
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Speaker 1: and Nominor is freaking telling people to stone all of
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Speaker 1: these freaking droids, and you're like, what the off, Like
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Speaker 1: what did I just turned by? Like I thought I
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Speaker 1: skipped some pages and I was like, what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: And it's so.
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Speaker 1: Creepy, Like this is I know we've talked about like
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Speaker 1: Witchcraft and Star Wars and Colts and Star Wars like
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Speaker 1: this felt like old school creepy cult which I dig
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Speaker 1: because again, like you, I've had this conversation with Travis
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Speaker 1: before and I kind of spoke about it in our
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Speaker 1: little g Ua Geek first crossover. Is that like, just
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Speaker 1: like how in the High Republic, there is so much
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Speaker 1: more than just like the regular oh Jedi, good guy,
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Speaker 1: Sith bad guy fight the end.
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Speaker 2: Like in Star.
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Speaker 1: Wars, there's so many different cultures, so many different ideals.
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Speaker 1: There doesn't have to be a red lightsaber going around
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Speaker 1: everywhere just to be like a good Star Wars story.
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Speaker 1: Here is a very good example. So I I dug
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Speaker 1: this villain.
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Speaker 2: Very creepy, very fun.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the villain being like the Vong basically? Yeah, yeah, okay,
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Speaker 3: just making sure. Yeah, this is one of my favorite
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Speaker 3: villains of Star Wars Legends. And I mean I said
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Speaker 3: twenty books earlier. This is a nineteen book series.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: But some of these books are hefty, like you talked
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Speaker 3: about mass market like hef these?
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Speaker 1: I uh again, just because of my craziness with how
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Speaker 1: sporadic I am with being able to listen to a
20:41
Speaker 1: book versus read a book on my phone versus read
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Speaker 1: a book physically. I have essentially three versions of this
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Speaker 1: book audio, digital and physical. And when I was reading
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Speaker 1: digitally again on my phone, I was trying to customize
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Speaker 1: the size of the text to really fit what I
21:06
Speaker 1: was comfortable with reading, and like, without even thinking about it,
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Speaker 1: I would like keep track of like, okay, there I
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Speaker 1: have this many pages left of the book. But then
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Speaker 1: I would adjust the font and then I would look
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Speaker 1: at the pages again and it would like increase.
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Speaker 2: I was like, how did this book get longer? What
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Speaker 2: the hell's going on?
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Speaker 1: So I have to like get that right before I
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Speaker 1: start reading, so that way.
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Speaker 2: I'm not adjusting all the goddamn time. But yeah, this
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Speaker 2: book was actually pretty hefty.
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Speaker 1: I liked the uh this is it's a hefty book
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Speaker 1: with only twenty six chapters, that's the thing. And that
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Speaker 1: tells you right there that Salvatory loves his descriptors. He
21:55
Speaker 1: loves to explain, he loves to get into the gritty,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it hurts, and sometimes it's really really good.
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Speaker 2: So for instance, oh, we'll go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, okay, no, sorry, you finish your plane because
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Speaker 3: I was gonna dive us into the chewy desk.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, So well this kind of goes into that.
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Speaker 1: For instance, Anakin and Jason, right, uh, yeah, So there's
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Speaker 1: a moment where they're really going back and forth on
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Speaker 1: like what it is to not only be a knight
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Speaker 1: Jedi knight, but like what symbol does your lightsaber mean?
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Speaker 1: And they get really philosophical. But like Anakin is also
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Speaker 1: and I feel like they did this on purpose for
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Speaker 1: the for the for the record, guys, Anakin and the
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Speaker 1: way that he was thinking. I'm like, this is too
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Speaker 1: close to well to the prequel series, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they're going to explain all of this in the next
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Speaker 1: nineteen books.
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Speaker 3: So it's not really explained in the next couple of books.
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Speaker 3: But like I've always attributed Anakin's spirit to in the comics,
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Speaker 3: when he's born, Palpatine actually takes over his body like
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Speaker 3: a little bit. And okay, so Ghost Anakin. Because Leah's
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Speaker 3: having problems with her father identity and everything, Ghost Anakin
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Speaker 3: and Luke helped defend and so Leah is able to
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Speaker 3: come to terms with her parentage at that point and
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Speaker 3: decides to name Anakin Anakin in honor of that acceptance.
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Speaker 1: So okay, that, okay, that makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 1: Actually especially with some of the animosity that comes into this.
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Speaker 2: Book as well.
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Speaker 1: Three Po also has the audacity to call her Vader,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, yo, chill out, bro.
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Speaker 3: Like that's the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Like you've known her longer than you've known Vader, and
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Speaker 1: you had the balls to say, Lady Vader, like chill out.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the whole Anakin thing, Anakin adjacent thing, this
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Speaker 1: whole philosophical story. And then like Savateur's like, oh, and
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Speaker 1: they didn't have a training setting on their lightsabers and
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Speaker 1: the like they're trying He's trying to build the suspense
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Speaker 1: and everything, and I'm like, it's not that serious, Like
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Speaker 1: just say that they're good at what they're doing and
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Speaker 1: let's move on.
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Speaker 2: That whole scene I felt was probably half a page
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Speaker 2: too long, mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: But again, sometimes the long descriptive moments of a book
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Speaker 1: can be really compelling and really tell you how these
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Speaker 1: characters are thinking, Like internally, I kind of already got
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Speaker 1: that from this surfa level thoughts of Anakin like immediately.
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Speaker 2: So there's some.
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Speaker 1: Places where I felt like you probably could have slowed
25:07
Speaker 1: your role a little.
25:08
Speaker 2: Bit and just moved on. Yeah, but.
25:12
Speaker 1: Dealing with Anakin. We also have to deal with the
25:15
Speaker 1: repercussions of some of his quick thinking, which I will
25:20
Speaker 1: admit is something that he should have done. But this
25:26
Speaker 1: whole Chewy thing, uh, you want to you want to
25:29
Speaker 1: give us And then.
25:33
Speaker 3: And this is the first time a major character from
25:39
Speaker 3: especially from the original trilogy was killed off in the
25:41
Speaker 3: expanded universe. You think, okay, like you had like basically,
25:46
Speaker 3: this book is seven years after Air to the Empire,
25:50
Speaker 3: roughly in that timeframe, and so you go, okay, we
25:55
Speaker 3: want to make a new big bad in Star Wars,
26:00
Speaker 3: and they wanted to start off with a bang. This
26:04
Speaker 3: is probably what pissed George Lucas off for the first
26:07
Speaker 3: time is because he did not want them to kill
26:09
Speaker 3: off Chewi, and he was kind of like, uh, you
26:13
Speaker 3: do what you want to do kind of thing, but
26:15
Speaker 3: I don't like this.
26:17
Speaker 1: And that's when he's like, oh, yeah, this is a
26:19
Speaker 1: fan fiction, by the way, guys.
26:21
Speaker 3: Basically, so so Hide, Anakin and Chewie go to this
26:28
Speaker 3: planet to help Lando out with a delivery. They end
26:33
Speaker 3: up running into the fact that the Moon is crashing
26:36
Speaker 3: onto the planet, and so they try to take out
26:42
Speaker 3: the weapon of mass destruction. Doesn't have like somebody else
26:45
Speaker 3: ends up taking it out. But they get to the
26:48
Speaker 3: final moments and they go to rescue this toddler and
26:52
Speaker 3: Anakin is using the forest to lift the debris off
26:56
Speaker 3: this toddler and he gets struck over the head and
27:00
Speaker 3: is knocked unconscious. Chewey hands the toddler to Han and
27:07
Speaker 3: then takes off after Anakin because he is tumbled off
27:10
Speaker 3: like you've got pressure from the moon coming in basically,
27:14
Speaker 3: and so he takes off to get Anakin. The falcon
27:17
Speaker 3: cannot get low enough for Chewy to jump on board,
27:22
Speaker 3: so Chewy hands Han Anakin and basically runs off because
27:28
Speaker 3: he knows that Han will do anything he can to
27:30
Speaker 3: get Chewy on board, but Chewye knows that if they
27:35
Speaker 3: stick around, everybody's gonna die and his sacrifice will have
27:39
Speaker 3: been for nothing. And Han gets Anakin in and like
27:46
Speaker 3: takes off after Chewie. Anakin wakes up and Hank goes, okay,
27:51
Speaker 3: you control, I'm gonna go after Chewy and they get
27:54
Speaker 3: close to Chewi but not enough to get in, and
27:58
Speaker 3: Haan is like I want Anakin says I've got about
28:03
Speaker 3: five seconds to take off or we're all gonna and
28:07
Speaker 3: Anakin has to take off. And this is a repercussion
28:12
Speaker 3: that lasts the rest of the book and will continue
28:14
Speaker 3: to last and I'm not gonna tell you how long.
28:18
Speaker 2: So but my thing with this.
28:23
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say I saw it coming, because yes,
28:27
Speaker 1: for one, I knew this was literally coming, because again
28:32
Speaker 1: Katie has talked about this moment in.
28:34
Speaker 2: Star Wars History twice. So when I.
28:39
Speaker 1: Kind of saw the writing on the wall, I'm like,
28:42
Speaker 1: here it comes, it's coming, It's gonna, it's gonna happen.
28:46
Speaker 1: It really the moon lane, Yeah, it's it's It's a
28:50
Speaker 1: literal moment of like, what is it Infinity War when
28:53
Speaker 1: Thanus throws a.
28:54
Speaker 2: Moon at Iron Man.
28:56
Speaker 1: So in this moment, Chewey is like he falls because
29:03
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, the way that it describes
29:05
Speaker 1: it is that like because of the way that the
29:10
Speaker 1: moon is crushing the planet but not yet there, because
29:15
Speaker 1: of the gravitational pool, the ground is quaking, things are
29:19
Speaker 1: falling down, debris is everywhere.
29:23
Speaker 2: Chewy falls into an abyss.
29:25
Speaker 1: Basically, Han tries to find him, Anakin uses the Force
29:32
Speaker 1: to sense him. He's like, okay, I can't see him,
29:35
Speaker 1: but he's over here. Okay, turn right, turn left, dip
29:37
Speaker 1: through this, go here, go here, and they find him.
29:41
Speaker 1: When when all of this goes down, all you read
29:51
Speaker 1: is how Han is not taking.
29:54
Speaker 2: His eyes off of Chewy.
29:57
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't care what is going on, and he's
30:00
Speaker 1: just staring at Chewiy this entire time, And Chewie gets
30:04
Speaker 1: up and meets the moon with a vigorous roar in
30:10
Speaker 1: defiance like hey, I'm not going out like bitch, I'm
30:15
Speaker 1: just going to like you can't fight the moon, but
30:20
Speaker 1: Jeweye is gonna be He's not saying here in saying like, hey,
30:24
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit and wait until this thing crushes me.
30:29
Speaker 3: What the first time I read this, I was like
30:32
Speaker 3: probably like thirteen years old, and I'm just no, yeah,
30:41
Speaker 3: I think I was like it was like eleven pm
30:43
Speaker 3: at night and I'm like screaming in my room. What
30:48
Speaker 3: you doing? Like?
30:51
Speaker 2: Oh sorry?
30:52
Speaker 3: No?
30:52
Speaker 2: What?
30:53
Speaker 1: What I think hurts more than anything throughout this entire
30:57
Speaker 1: book is the fact that immediately, not a couple days later,
31:12
Speaker 1: not hey, I need to sit down and think about
31:15
Speaker 1: this before I say this. Immediately after he goes to Anakin,
31:20
Speaker 1: he says, you left him.
31:25
Speaker 2: You did that. He immediately puts the blame onto Anakin.
31:30
Speaker 3: Almost fifteen year old kid.
31:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing that we forgot to mention throughout
31:36
Speaker 1: this entire book. It talks about how Anakin, Jason, and
31:42
Speaker 1: Jana all have this like not only desire, but natural
31:51
Speaker 1: ability to fly, just like their father and just.
31:55
Speaker 2: Like their uncle. So like, this isn't a like, oh,
32:00
Speaker 2: Anakin made a mistake.
32:03
Speaker 3: Yep.
32:03
Speaker 1: No, Anakin made a calculated choice to prevent everybody from.
32:11
Speaker 2: Dying, and he was right in that decision, like.
32:18
Speaker 3: Honestly, and so what did you think about it? Getting
32:21
Speaker 3: turned back on Han? In the final battle when Luke
32:26
Speaker 3: has to save Mara, Jane, and Danny from the Jade
32:30
Speaker 3: Saber falling out of the sky, and he does this
32:34
Speaker 3: really cool trick, but I'm still is like this needs
32:36
Speaker 3: to go in a live action film somewhere, Like we
32:38
Speaker 3: need to see like shit bounce off their repulsars. And
32:42
Speaker 3: so Luke ends up falling back down to the planet
32:46
Speaker 3: where it's about to explode guys, basically, and Han is like, oh,
32:51
Speaker 3: I need to go after him. But then he goes,
32:54
Speaker 3: I've got all these people up in the sky that
32:56
Speaker 3: are depending on me. I have Lando, I have Leah,
32:59
Speaker 3: I have Annakin, I need to protect Jana, Like, yeah,
33:05
Speaker 3: he has to come to the same realization.
33:08
Speaker 1: And I don't think it would have he would have
33:14
Speaker 1: had that same thought process if it weren't for Lando.
33:21
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is a couple
33:23
Speaker 1: chapters after the incident of Chewy's death, Lando sits down
33:30
Speaker 1: with Han. It's like, hey, like, you need to understand
33:36
Speaker 1: that Chewie would have literally done the same thing. Yep,
33:41
Speaker 1: that he knew that him leaving and having you fly
33:49
Speaker 1: off and saving thousands, if not millions of lives is
33:56
Speaker 1: much better.
33:58
Speaker 2: Than saving one Wookie.
34:02
Speaker 1: And if those words would have been said by Luke,
34:09
Speaker 1: by Lea, by Mara, by anybody else, I don't think
34:14
Speaker 1: they would have had as strong of an effect as
34:18
Speaker 1: it was coming from Lando, just because of their history
34:22
Speaker 1: and everything else. I thought that was a very specific
34:25
Speaker 1: choice that Lando decided to have those words with Han
34:29
Speaker 1: and not somebody like Lea, because in the same breath
34:34
Speaker 1: there was like a little bit of Lea's perspective where
34:40
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I didn't know Chewie for as
34:45
Speaker 1: long as Han did, but I did have sweet memories
34:49
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let Han have his moment I'm gonna
34:54
Speaker 1: let him grieve. I'm gonna let him do whatever. I'm
34:57
Speaker 1: gonna kind of step back like I do like those
35:02
Speaker 1: moments as well.
35:03
Speaker 2: Is that we were able to grieve with every.
35:09
Speaker 1: Character when it came to Chew's death, Like we had
35:15
Speaker 1: a little bit of a moment with everybody and it
35:18
Speaker 1: didn't like take too long. That was the really nice
35:20
Speaker 1: thing is that, like the big voices had their moments,
35:25
Speaker 1: their conversations, they're debating about the situation when it was needed,
35:29
Speaker 1: whereas some people had some internal dialogue and kind of
35:33
Speaker 1: you know, had their moment to think about Chew and
35:36
Speaker 1: Solace and all of this.
35:37
Speaker 2: So I really liked that moment. Oh, I was just
35:44
Speaker 2: about to say something that I completely lost it. Oh
35:50
Speaker 2: gosh uh okay, So Anakin che was death Mara.
35:59
Speaker 1: Uh oh so uh speaking of Anakin and Solo's children
36:08
Speaker 1: and everything, we.
36:09
Speaker 2: Have a uh very not very We have another recognizable
36:20
Speaker 2: face in this book.
36:21
Speaker 3: N Yep from the Jeday Academy series.
36:26
Speaker 1: Yes, uh kipt Aron for people who do not know,
36:34
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, because now that I'm
36:38
Speaker 1: thinking about it, he was the one that Hans saved, right, He.
36:44
Speaker 3: Was the one that Kessel.
36:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he almost turned to the dark side.
36:50
Speaker 1: He was evil for a little bit and got turned
36:54
Speaker 1: back to Yeah, So, like, how did you feel about
36:58
Speaker 1: his involvement in this and like there is even some
37:04
Speaker 1: moments still in this book where Han.
37:08
Speaker 2: Very much seemed like a fatherly figure in the sense
37:13
Speaker 2: of like worrying about him and like all of these
37:15
Speaker 2: other things. How did you feel.
37:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is still there, even though Kip is
37:20
Speaker 3: now like in his thirties. I would probably say seeing
37:27
Speaker 3: Kip transform into like the I don't know I would
37:34
Speaker 3: I would say there's like two parties in the Jedi Order,
37:37
Speaker 3: like the more philosophical and the than the like, oh,
37:40
Speaker 3: warriors kind of thing. He's the leader of the Warrior faction,
37:46
Speaker 3: and in doing so, he's kind of turned a lot
37:49
Speaker 3: of the Jedi Order against him. So seeing his character
37:54
Speaker 3: kind of grow up in a sense and even just
37:57
Speaker 3: taking on that role is really meaningful, especially for a
38:01
Speaker 3: character where a lot happened to him and for him
38:05
Speaker 3: to take the warrior side, knowing what he's gone through,
38:09
Speaker 3: I still think is a very brief path for Kip.
38:14
Speaker 3: And I've read this book probably in order so seeing
38:18
Speaker 3: Kip chronologically helps a lot, because I'm sure like going
38:22
Speaker 3: from Jeda Academy kip her on to Bector Prime character
38:27
Speaker 3: on is very different. Wouldn't you say?
38:30
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, sorry go ahead, No no, no, you keep going,
38:39
Speaker 1: you keep going.
38:40
Speaker 3: So I enjoy his character as a foil to Luke
38:48
Speaker 3: basically because that's what he turns into. Yeah, that's all
38:54
Speaker 3: I really have on him.
38:57
Speaker 1: Well, I like it is the I like because one
39:00
Speaker 1: thing that I was wondering as I was opening this book,
39:03
Speaker 1: reading the first few pages, I was like, Okay, Jane
39:08
Speaker 1: is here, Mars here, Leah's here.
39:11
Speaker 2: Where in the timeline are we? Yeah, because again, last
39:20
Speaker 2: part of the timeline that I've really read is Eye
39:23
Speaker 2: Jedi and the Academy books. Yep, this is quite some time.
39:31
Speaker 3: After those, Yeah, because you're looking at it and that
39:34
Speaker 3: those are probably like five aby somewhere in that range,
39:40
Speaker 3: and this is twenty a b. Why.
39:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, So a lot of time has passed, and I
39:52
Speaker 1: like one thing that we haven't really talked about is
39:55
Speaker 1: Leah and her relationship with shana Ah. And this may
40:04
Speaker 1: be something that some people understand, some people don't, but
40:11
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed It's a very subtle thing, and people
40:15
Speaker 1: may roll their eyes at this, but there's a moment
40:21
Speaker 1: when she again Leah is having some internal dialogue about Jana,
40:26
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, what a you know, a little
40:30
Speaker 1: a young girl. She's like, no, not girl, a young woman.
40:34
Speaker 1: She's turning into a you know, a fine young woman
40:38
Speaker 1: to do the things that she wants to do, you know,
40:41
Speaker 1: be this Jedi night, be this apprentice to Mara Jade,
40:45
Speaker 1: you know, fly this ship like crazy, even though like
40:49
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let her because you know, Mara would
40:51
Speaker 1: probably kill us, and all this other stuff.
40:55
Speaker 2: I like the dynamic. One thing that.
41:01
Speaker 1: I feel like was probably good was the fact that
41:06
Speaker 1: there was not a whole lot of animosity within the
41:14
Speaker 1: solo Skywalker family. Yeah, because even the whole Jason Anakin thing.
41:21
Speaker 1: And I know, we're kind of reaching the point of
41:23
Speaker 1: where we kind of wanted to Yeah, yeah, exactly, so,
41:29
Speaker 1: so we'll move on to that after this. But like
41:32
Speaker 1: the conversations between Jason and Anakin, like although you kind
41:37
Speaker 1: of get this feeling of like, oh, these are two
41:40
Speaker 1: siblings just like really kind of duking it out, there
41:44
Speaker 1: was never a whole lot of like, oh I hate you,
41:48
Speaker 1: Like it was just like, hey, this is this is
41:52
Speaker 1: a teachable moment for both of us, and we're going
41:55
Speaker 1: to you know, test our skills, like this is literally
42:00
Speaker 1: what Luke wanted for any and every Jedi.
42:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's yeah. I enjoyed that dynamic. Though it
42:12
Speaker 3: does get a little bit interesting towards the middle of
42:17
Speaker 3: the series, and that's.
42:18
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I feel like there is some
42:23
Speaker 1: writing on the wall with that, but again, I'm just
42:26
Speaker 1: gonna let it play out and see how it goes well.
42:29
Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna remember one of the big
42:31
Speaker 3: plot points of this series that I've spoiled because I
42:35
Speaker 3: never thought we were gonna get here. But then ye.
42:37
Speaker 3: Any So, so one of the things that we wanted
42:44
Speaker 3: to kind of talk about, especially with this first book, Guys,
42:47
Speaker 3: is sort of like some canon comparisons, And so one
42:53
Speaker 3: of the two canon comparisons was kind of this versus
42:58
Speaker 3: like the High Republic, because there's a lot of more
43:00
Speaker 3: features with like the nameless kind of eating the Force
43:04
Speaker 3: and then the use of Bog not having the Force
43:07
Speaker 3: or not being present in the forest, but then also
43:11
Speaker 3: looking at it, you have Ahsoka going extra galactic. That
43:15
Speaker 3: use on bomb are from another galaxy. So, Clay, what
43:19
Speaker 3: did you think about Let's talk about the galactic element first.
43:25
Speaker 1: I really like this. Again, at the time, this is
43:30
Speaker 1: probably like unheard of.
43:32
Speaker 2: Right mm hmm.
43:33
Speaker 1: You have, of course, the very classic Star Wars from
43:36
Speaker 1: a galaxy far far away mentioning anything from a different
43:42
Speaker 1: galaxy coming into the Star Wars galaxy like that's, you know,
43:47
Speaker 1: holy crap, like what is this new thing? Like what's
43:49
Speaker 1: going to happen here?
43:52
Speaker 2: So I like this.
43:54
Speaker 1: I like the very new feeling of it again with
44:01
Speaker 1: it being as old as it is and me reading
44:03
Speaker 1: it for the first time. There is those comparisons to canon,
44:11
Speaker 1: but I like that even more because then you can
44:14
Speaker 1: arguably say, oh, these small moments that we're getting in
44:19
Speaker 1: most recent canon, you could easily chop up to oh,
44:25
Speaker 1: they're taking a little bit of homage or some characteristics
44:29
Speaker 1: from these elements in legends.
44:34
Speaker 2: So I and I.
44:38
Speaker 1: Like that because a majority of the fandom likes that,
44:45
Speaker 1: and honestly, anything that kind of cools this fandom down
44:52
Speaker 1: and kind of just like, hey, we're gonna throw you
44:54
Speaker 1: a bone here and there, like, hey, you have what
44:57
Speaker 1: you want, I'm cool with it. Keep them hand like
45:02
Speaker 1: to a certain extent of course, because of you know,
45:05
Speaker 1: just some of the bigotry that's all out there. But yeah,
45:09
Speaker 1: with this, I I really enjoyed the unknown feeling because
45:16
Speaker 1: even the way that Marra explains it, because you even
45:22
Speaker 1: kind of gave away some of her dialogue, it's like, oh.
45:28
Speaker 2: The force was not with him, but no, it wasn't
45:31
Speaker 2: that the force was with him.
45:33
Speaker 1: He was without the force. Yeah, and it's like they
45:36
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with it, so it's like, yeah,
45:40
Speaker 1: just completely absent of it was a really fun like
45:46
Speaker 1: oh what does this mean? Even when like when Luke
45:49
Speaker 1: was there for that instance, Mar's like, oh, you gotta
45:53
Speaker 1: be careful, like these people don't have, you know, any
45:56
Speaker 1: force lingering, so they could sneak up on you. And
45:59
Speaker 1: that's kind of like he changes his perspective on how
46:02
Speaker 1: he's going to do certain things afterward, Like it puts
46:06
Speaker 1: our characters in situations where they do have to think
46:09
Speaker 1: outside the box.
46:11
Speaker 2: So I like that element.
46:14
Speaker 3: I love it so much, and I thought like maybe
46:19
Speaker 3: they were paralleling it a little bit more with Nameless.
46:22
Speaker 3: Of course, the name Wills ended up being an entirely
46:24
Speaker 3: different beast in and of itself. But I really enjoy
46:30
Speaker 3: the elements of the Jedi having to think outside the box,
46:34
Speaker 3: like you said, and oh going like, oh, I trained
46:36
Speaker 3: her in acavity, but it didn't prep me for this now,
46:39
Speaker 3: like what do I do? And I still have some
46:42
Speaker 3: advantages because of like anticipatory force reactions, but you can't
46:47
Speaker 3: get a read on your opponent like they're very much
46:51
Speaker 3: used to. So that's something that I really enjoyed with this,
46:56
Speaker 3: and you'll see in upcoming books as it kind of
47:00
Speaker 3: expands because the use on Bong keep learning as they
47:04
Speaker 3: go along. So I'm really excited to see how this continues,
47:08
Speaker 3: like with your reactions and stuff with oh gosh, what
47:15
Speaker 3: was the other thing, Oh, the higher public era esque
47:18
Speaker 3: things like I feel like we've kind of actually already
47:21
Speaker 3: talked about that. Like I enjoy the extra galactic things too,
47:26
Speaker 3: And you actually see other authors in Legends kind of
47:31
Speaker 3: sprinkle in things like Outbound Flight, for instance, by Timothy Zon.
47:36
Speaker 3: The just talk about an extra not an extra galactor,
47:40
Speaker 3: but an enemy that is coming. And Zhon, when like
47:48
Speaker 3: interviewed about that specific part, he said, Yeah, that was
47:52
Speaker 3: like an inkling of Okay, the U zone Fong are
47:54
Speaker 3: coming and we have to be prepared for that, like
47:57
Speaker 3: the Emperor had sensed that, so sprinkling in those mentions,
48:02
Speaker 3: I think, like those red cons as people like to
48:05
Speaker 3: call them, that aren't actually retcons. There's easter eggs. It's
48:09
Speaker 3: really fun for me, especially with one hundred and forty
48:12
Speaker 3: six books, like in Star Wars Legends, it's really awesome. So, yeah,
48:20
Speaker 3: the higher public connections thing. I like seeing how the
48:26
Speaker 3: journey expands and the cast also increases in this as
48:31
Speaker 3: you go along, Like the next book features corn Horn
48:34
Speaker 3: and another new Jedi, so I don't really consider that spoilers,
48:41
Speaker 3: so hopefully you didn't consider this.
48:43
Speaker 1: Like I actually like corn he is, Oh, I love Horny,
48:49
Speaker 1: like a very fun character.
48:51
Speaker 2: He's going to be a lot older since the last.
48:54
Speaker 1: Time I saw him, So I'm kind of really excited
48:57
Speaker 1: to see where he is at this moment. A little
49:00
Speaker 1: bit of a spoiler for eye Jedi, Like at this moment,
49:05
Speaker 1: like he is well at that moment, not at this moment.
49:08
Speaker 1: At that moment, he is, you know, a contemplating his
49:13
Speaker 1: life with his wife, wanting to have kids. He's finding
49:17
Speaker 1: more about himself and his past and how he's connected
49:20
Speaker 1: to the Jedi of old, and like all of these
49:25
Speaker 1: different things.
49:26
Speaker 2: So like.
49:28
Speaker 1: Having those moments in Eye Jedi and now kind of
49:32
Speaker 1: seeing a time jump that's gonna be really fun to
49:34
Speaker 1: see where he is as an individual and where he
49:39
Speaker 1: will most likely lead Luke or Anakin or Jason into
49:44
Speaker 1: whatever adventure that they're gonna get into next. Yeah, but
49:48
Speaker 1: I know we talked about it very minorly, but Nominor,
49:55
Speaker 1: being the technophobe that he is, gave huge mother vibes
50:04
Speaker 1: and like for the fact that he was able to
50:09
Speaker 1: get like all these people to completely massacre like these
50:15
Speaker 1: droids and then have like a droid graveyard.
50:20
Speaker 2: Yes, so wild to me.
50:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like again, it's like a super creepy thing that
50:27
Speaker 1: we learned to love in the High Republic. So like
50:33
Speaker 1: I'm only really anticipating like what's gonna come next from
50:36
Speaker 1: these guys, like you.
50:37
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, So so just some fun facts as we
50:43
Speaker 3: close out, guys. So, this book actually had a trailer
50:51
Speaker 3: which I did not know about, where they hired Mark
50:56
Speaker 3: Hamill to uh speak as Luke Skywall. Like in the trailer,
51:02
Speaker 3: he said, I have fought the worst of all wars
51:04
Speaker 3: and witnessed the redemption of evil. I've seen balance restored
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Speaker 3: to the forest, but order can turn to chaos as
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Speaker 3: it did when I was born. Now, with my loved
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Speaker 3: ones and my loyal allies, I face a new challenge
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Speaker 3: unlike any before, and I'm not sure if this time
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Speaker 3: we can win. So that was like the trailer over
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Speaker 3: scenes from the original trilogy. And then Vector Prime did
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Speaker 3: spend time on the New York Times Bestsellers list and
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Speaker 3: spent a total of four weeks on it, and Chewbacca's
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Speaker 3: death was a huge controversial point amongst Star Wars fans
51:45
Speaker 3: and in several like most memorable moments of the expanded Universe,
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Speaker 3: Chewbacca's death hits first on most of those lists.
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Speaker 2: So wow, well I'm even reading right here. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Savatore received death threats from some readers.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: In an interview with some of the New Jedi Or
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Speaker 1: series creators, UH, Sue Rastoni's, Shelley Shapiro and Lucy Wilson
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Speaker 1: expressed that Savator's treatment was one of their greatest regrets
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Speaker 1: from the series.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: He would go to send Salt Lake City Comic Con
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Speaker 1: uh despite some negative fans outcry Uh. So he and
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Speaker 1: just saying that most people for the for the for
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Speaker 1: the most part, enjoyed Vector Prime.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, like I it's it's disgusting to think like this.
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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, just in the day and age that we
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Speaker 1: are in, Like, could you imagine if they did that
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Speaker 1: in canon like today? Mm hmm, there would be so
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Speaker 1: much outrage. Yeah, I mean, I'm look.
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Speaker 3: At people get death threats now for can't look.
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Speaker 2: At forst Awakens what they did with with Han Solo
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Speaker 2: and people were the same exact way, even though people
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Speaker 2: Harrison Ford does not want to be in Star Wars.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't know if that's a secret of anybody's,
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Speaker 2: but yeah.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, all right, so Clay, I think that's everything.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, guys, like we said, this is gonna be the
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Speaker 1: first of many to come. Since this is a nineteen
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Speaker 1: book series, we have sat down and said, hey, we're
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Speaker 1: doing this. So you guys, I'm not gonna go ahead
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Speaker 1: and set out a schedule now because we just got
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Speaker 1: finished saying on our our normal show that this year
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Speaker 1: is very, very busy, So this is dropping on August first,
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Speaker 1: I will say, we will try and make this a
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Speaker 1: monthly thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are.
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Speaker 3: Goal is to have one for you every first.
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Speaker 1: Yes, there may be an instance where you know, just
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Speaker 1: things come up and we have to you know, post
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Speaker 1: it like that next you know, a weekday or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But that is the plan for the next nineteen months,
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Speaker 1: where I guess that only eighteen we will be posting
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Speaker 1: one of these on Patreon, and I'm really excited for it.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be the first like legitimate, overarching series.
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Speaker 2: Of Star Wars books that I will be reading.
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Speaker 1: We had High Republic, but that was a total of
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Speaker 1: not counting the mangas.
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Speaker 2: What is it five, six, eleven, fifteen or sixteen?
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Speaker 3: You have ten adult books?
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Speaker 1: So dear Lord, okay, then yeah, like okay, so High
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Speaker 1: Republic wins.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna put my foot in my mouth.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, okay, I say ten.
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Speaker 3: I was counting the audio dramas and I think I
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Speaker 3: actually counted one picture that it wasn't supposed.
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Speaker 2: To, but three.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you also count the anthology
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Speaker 1: The Light in Life?
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Speaker 2: Because I don't know if that's you know, but.
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Speaker 3: It's like nine books per so if you say eighteen
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Speaker 3: for adult and young adult.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but even so, like this this is going to
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Speaker 1: be technically now my second series of books within the
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Speaker 1: Star Wars series, and it's legends, so that I think
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Speaker 1: it's going to be even more fun seeing things that
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Speaker 1: you know, people have loved for many, many years, and
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be experiencing for the very first time.
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Speaker 2: I will be genuinely surprised.
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Speaker 1: If I have another moment like I did realizing that
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Speaker 1: Throng was actually a good character.
56:45
Speaker 2: Because I like I.
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Speaker 1: I just don't know, you know, I don't have any
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Speaker 1: animosity coming into this, so I don't know if anything
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Speaker 1: will be like able to flip me on any character.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just reiterate it for the fifth freaking time
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Speaker 1: writing on the wall for Anakin character. Anakin's character. We'll
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Speaker 1: see how that happens or how that goes.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, with that, guys, thank you so much for
57:17
Speaker 2: being here. Katie, you want to close us out?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, Oh gosh, what's my otro?
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Speaker 2: It's late guys, by the way, it is.
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Speaker 3: It's past my bedtime. So guys, I want to thank
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Speaker 3: each and every one of you guys for being here,
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Speaker 3: thanks for supporting us on Patreon, and with that, I
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Speaker 3: want to wish ever in a great day or night,
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Speaker 3: whatever it's, whatever time of day you were listening or
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Speaker 3: potentially watching. I don't know if Clay's gonna put the
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Speaker 3: video up or not. And thanks for being here. May
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Speaker 3: the forced to be with you. Bye guys,