Latest / Kvetch & Release / MP Anthony Housefather targeted with antisemitic hate
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- 0:00Came across a post on social media that I just absolutely do not like to
- 0:06see. It's literally it's a poster that was put up on a pole in
- 0:10Montreal and it labels a member of Parliament Anthony house Father. It says house
- 0:17Father says, we helped build this country. And then there is a picture
- 0:21of a Israeli flag with a swastika in the middle of it. It then
- 0:25says house Father equals neo Nazi, get out of Canada, Zionism equals terrorism.
- 0:32Really really staggering that these are showing up on the streets. The Member
- 0:36of Parliament responded in kind on social media, but I figured it made sense
- 0:41for us to just speak with him directly. Joining me on the phone right
- 0:45now is the Member of Parliament for mont Royal, Anthony house Father. How
- 0:49are you today, John? How are you doing well? Thank you for
- 0:52joining me here. So this is vile, it's disgusting, it's anti semitic.
- 0:57How did you find out about this? Oh? I well, I
- 1:00received a multiplicity of texts with people sending me photos when they went up the
- 1:06other day, and I sort of found out by a group of people all
- 1:10suddenly sending me pictures of what they saw on the street. So you tweeted
- 1:15out, you said, my family's been here since the nineteenth century and we
- 1:17have indeed helped build this country. I'm not going anywhere. How do you
- 1:22feel when you saw this? I mean, is this just part for the
- 1:25course of being in politics this day these days? Does this hit you personally?
- 1:29Oh? I mean, like right now, For the last many months
- 1:33as a Jewish member of Parliament, I've received so many threats and so many
- 1:38horrific messages on social media, on my email, calling my office, but
- 1:44most of them are private, and you know, and the threats come to
- 1:47me and my staff, and you know, they're rarely seen by the public.
- 1:51This was, you know, just a public attack on me, So
- 1:57I wouldn't have actually publicized. But the federation, the Montreal Jewish Federation,
- 2:02it posted the picture. So at that point I said, well, I'm
- 2:07going to let everybody know that I'm not going to be intimidated by somebody in
- 2:10an anti Semitic way, comparing Jewish contributions to Canada to Nazi Germany and telling
- 2:16all Zionists and by the way, over ninety percent of jewser Zionists that they
- 2:21should leave Canada. The country we're born in and that we've been in for
- 2:24hundreds of years, and so I wanted to respond to make everybody aware that
- 2:30this isn't going to intimidate me. Well, I'm glad that it's not going
- 2:32to intimidate you. The rhetoric, you know, asking Canadian asking telling Canadian
- 2:37Jews to leave Canada obviously isn't going to improve anything in the Middle East,
- 2:43let alone here in our country. Tensions are very high, of course they
- 2:46have been since October the seventh, and it's been difficult for Canadian Jews to
- 2:51navigate this. But you are you're part of I mean, there's not a
- 2:53lot of Canadian Jews quite frankly, we are a small number here in the
- 2:57country, around what six hundred thousand, But you're part of our really exclusive
- 3:00group of being, you know, a Jew in a parliament. What's it
- 3:04just been like for you know, Jews who are elected officials these days.
- 3:07Well, I have the rare combination of being a Jewish elected official in a
- 3:13riding that has a high percentage of the Jewish community. So twenty nine thirty
- 3:17percent of my riding is Jewish. So that's a double whammy in the sense
- 3:23that I am dealing with many, many, many people who for the very
- 3:28first time in their lives are feeling unhappy and uncomfortable in their own country,
- 3:32feeling that the world has turned against them. And they're hearing demonstrations in our
- 3:38streets, you know, in front of our schools and our synagogue and our
- 3:42businesses yelling hateful things about Jews, and encampments at universities that are saying hateful
- 3:50things that the Jewish community of views as anti Semitic, and you know,
- 3:54and this hasn't been experienced in Canada since the nineteen thirties. So they're feeling
- 4:01hurt and in pain and unhappy that no government at any level has done a
- 4:05satisfactory job at addressing it. And then I, as the MP, you
- 4:11know, am getting it from every side. And it's very difficult dealing with
- 4:15all the hate that has been in my inbox in terms of you know,
- 4:20because I'm a pro Israel, you know, Jewish Canadians. It's been overwhelming
- 4:28how much hate I've gotten. So I never thought when I ran for office
- 4:31I would ever be a you know, so called Jewish MP. I was
- 4:34going to be an MP who happens to be a member of the Jewish community.
- 4:39But over the last eight months, I've been made to feel like I'm
- 4:42a Jewish MP. I can't imagine what that must feel like. We saw
- 4:46the Prime Minister respond to you on social media saying that he's angry that it
- 4:50occurred to you. He said it was antisemitic and disgusting and that Jewish Canadians
- 4:55did help build the country. He says he stands with you and the entire
- 4:58community against this hate. Let me ask you, frankly, is your government
- 5:02doing enough to deal with this issue. I don't feel that any government in
- 5:06any country has done enough to deal with this issue. I think most people
- 5:10are of good faith, but are having difficulty understanding the way of anti Semitism,
- 5:15how it's fermented, and how the Jewish community is now trying to deal
- 5:20with it, because like for ourselves, right, we live in a sort
- 5:24of bubble. We're on our social media feed and in our conversations with family
- 5:29and those friends of who are Jewish, this is all anybody is talking about.
- 5:32For most Canadians, that's not the case. So they have people have
- 5:38to be sensitized not just how bad this is, and then you know,
- 5:41I don't think any government has quite got in this right yet, and I'm
- 5:44trying my best to push my government to do things like in act bubble legislation
- 5:48at the federal level to make it criminal to block access or exit from,
- 5:54you know, building sexious schools and community centers and places of worship, and
- 6:00my best to get sam a Dune listed as a terrorist organization. They've been
- 6:03deeply involved in the encampments, but most of the actions that need to be
- 6:08taken are at the municipal university in provincial level, and somebody needs to coordinate
- 6:15this and get this all together. How do you respond to someone when they
- 6:20tell you that it's not anti semitic to be anti Zionist. You're very clear
- 6:26about it that this is anti semitism, Yes, because Zionism means you believe
- 6:30Israel has a right to exist. If you don't believe that Israel has a
- 6:32right to exist, then you're the only Jewish date in the world. Then
- 6:34you're anti Semitic. Yes, So what are you going to keep doing?
- 6:39Then? Is this just a matter of you know, you just keep on
- 6:41keeping on pushing for the things that you just mentioned there. I mean it's
- 6:45tough, it is. Every day is a struggle, but one hundred percent,
- 6:48I represent not only the Jewish community in my riding and the people who
- 6:53live in my riding as a whole, most of whom are deeply sympathetic to
- 6:58the Jewish community in very be about the waves of antisemitism. But you know,
- 7:01Jews Canadians across the country and those many Canadians that aren't happy about what's
- 7:08happening now. And I am you know, I believe in a centrist government.
- 7:12I believe in a government that will fight back against hate and all forms,
- 7:16including anti Semitism. And I will be doing my best to push for
- 7:20universities to enact the IRA definition to include Jews, and diversity equity inclusion programs
- 7:27to properly and consistently apply their policies to everyone equally, you know, and
- 7:32for police, local police to act when crimes are being committed. And you
- 7:36know, and I think we all have a role to play in this.
- 7:39But I won't stop just because somebody you know sent hate to me. I
- 7:43know there was a conversation a couple of months ago about whether or not remaining
- 7:46in the Liberal caucus was the best place for you. I just I want
- 7:49to know after this incident that you're seeing and after you know the response that's
- 7:53happening right now. Good affirmation from the Prime minister. Do you still feel
- 7:57that you made the right choice and that where you are is where you believe
- 8:00I did. I mean, I thought it too right, and I was
- 8:01unhappy with where our party had gone after eight years of consistently being supporting Israel,
- 8:07to a place where I was no longer comfortable where we were in terms
- 8:13of supporting our democratic ally. But I also realized that ninety you know,
- 8:18ninety percent of the issues in politics that I deal with. I am a
- 8:22liberal right I believe in a strong Charter of rights. I don't believe in
- 8:24using the notwithstanding clause like Pierre poly I was saying he's going to do.
- 8:28I believe in official bilingualism. I believe there's I believe in in a clean
- 8:33environment. There's so many things that I believe in that are more liberal values
- 8:37as opposed to me jumping to a party that I agree with on one issue.
- 8:43I better fix my party on that. But I want to stay long
- 8:46term in a party that myself and other Jewish Canadians who are more liberal in
- 8:50outlook have a place in and if I were to leave, that would be
- 8:54closing a door in the Liberal Party. That wouldn't be good long term for
- 8:58my community. That requires strong voices in both parties. When the Prime Minister
- 9:03was in Windsor a few months ago, I asked him at the pressor event
- 9:07that he had about the rise of anti Semitism and what more the government should
- 9:11do and could do about it. And his answer was to list off a
- 9:16variety of things that had already been done, not much forward looking in his
- 9:20answer, and I got to say, it left me really dismayed to hear
- 9:24that I'm not seeing that. You know, there's changes, and I understand
- 9:26what you're saying about how most of them become ENREGC is a terrorist organization.
- 9:31Okay, that's one thing that was one of the big things we have put
- 9:35forward online hate legislation. That is one of the biggest requests of the Jewish
- 9:39community because the vast majority of hate starts on social media, so there actually
- 9:43have been actions. But I also understand that nobody I believe has coherently delivered,
- 9:50from the government's perspective, all the things they are now doing. And
- 9:54we need to get better at communicate and we also need to take more actions,
- 9:56and we need to be a coordinator of the provinces, in municipalities and
- 10:01universities who are at the center of this and who are not acting because nobody
- 10:05cares what level of government does anything anymore. They just want somebody to act.
- 10:09And and so I've asked the Prime minister, you know, the Prime
- 10:13Minister when I stayed said, you know, he wants you know, he
- 10:16wants me to play a role in this. And I've you know, and
- 10:18I've spoken with him again today on this issue, you know, when he
- 10:22called me to find out how I was doing based on based on the poster,
- 10:28you know, and I said, we need a more coordinated message,
- 10:30and I continue to work towards that. Well, it's something that we're definitely
- 10:35going to be keeping an eye on. It's an incredibly important topic. And
- 10:37I'm really sorry that, you know, you're having to go through this,
- 10:41but it's it's the fight that exists right now. I suppose one hundred percent.
- 10:43Well, we all have our roles and we all have to do our
- 10:46best. And I want to thank you John for covering this, Thank you
- 10:48so much for joining me to talk about it. You have yourself a great
- 10:50day you too, Thank you so much, You're welcome. Anthony house Father
- 10:54is a Member of Parliament for Mount Royal