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Episode 236: The GABECUBE cometh! · WASD and Beyond

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  God I hate the Midwest. The.
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  Midwest is bullshit. Oh man, you know what I don't
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  hate? What's that?
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  This show and all the stress it puts on you when you work 12
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  hours a day, take care of your family, then you hop on just
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  because your good old friend Nick asked you to.
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  Welcome back to the WASD and Beyond podcast.
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  We are host Nick and Brody and Brody regrets every second of
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  saying yes to this. Though he could quit, he won't
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  because he loves me and he knows I'll be thrown into a down world
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  spiral of depression and I will forgive him, but I'll never
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  forgive myself for losing him. Much like a love lost.
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  Mr. Beautiful Brody, what have you been playing this week when
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  you've had the time? Not a lot.
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  I, I feel like I've said that a lot recently.
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  I've played a little bit more of Unicorn Overlord, but most of my
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  focus has been on dispatch. I was well behind everyone else
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  that has been playing this in the in our discord.
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  So I hopped in and I, I think I was on like episode.
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  Well, I just picked it up last week and you were on.
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  Episode 3 when I was on when I was about to start at 7:00.
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  Yeah, and I finished it before everyone else because I just
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  happened to be off that day. So I was able to play Episode 7
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  and then I came home and played Episode 8 later.
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  That or I played part of Episode 8 and then I came home and
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  finished it. Damn man.
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  It's good. It is very good.
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  I found out that a decision I made in episode 7 changed my
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  ending and I was very upset about it.
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  I didn't realize it was episode 7 that changed it, so I started
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  back a couple scenes into episode 8.
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  So I technically rolled credits twice.
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  I haven't beat it twice, obviously, but I do plan to go
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  back through it again for a completely different like run,
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  try like the major decisions, do the opposite of what I did the
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  first go around. Yeah, and and stuff like that.
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  But boy, I really like that game.
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  I would. Really love a whole mini game of
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  just the dispatching. Your brother is absolutely
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  fucking horrible at it. Lucas.
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  Yes. No shit, it's Luke.
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  He had five out of 6 heroes down last night while we were
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  watching. He's on like episode 3.
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  I've never downed a hero. I did once.
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  I've injured a hero, never downed a hero.
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  I, I, I did once. I didn't realize they were
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  injured and I don't, I don't want to say too much.
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  Near the end of it is when I finally hit the the point that I
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  downed one. I was like fuck.
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  How did Luke have? I don't know.
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  I don't know. It was crazy.
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  He'd send like one person on a mission.
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  I'm like, what are you doing, man?
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  This is a four person mission. It's it'll be fun.
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  There are some missions like four person missions where I'm
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  like, OK, so if I send this person in slot one and then
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  throw this person in slot 2 because of that, this person
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  will then add. So I found out good synergies
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  that it's really interesting like that many.
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  Like I love the story, don't get me wrong.
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  Yeah, but the mini game itself, I really want a full like thing
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  because it's like I've started playing Bilatro and like this
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  mini game. And if I had just this mini game
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  and Bilatro to play, I wouldn't play anything else.
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  Like I like I am so hooked on Bilatro.
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  And then just like replaying, I sat there and I was like, this
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  is going to be OK. It's great.
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  It's phenomenal. It's goatee for sure.
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  Right? Like it it, it deserves every
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  flowers it got. I was like, oh I see, I
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  understand now. I played it on mobile is where I
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  actually ended up picking it up so I could play it during like
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  downtime at work and shit like that, so it's damn good.
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  Damn. Problem is you know I have
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  vices. No.
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  That I yeah, I like to scratch. I've had to fight the urge while
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  playing Bilatro to play Bilatro and not download the FanDuel app
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  just to get some double gambling going.
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  Jesus, you. Yeah, except for one of those
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  gambling things does not cost money.
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  Yeah. No, it doesn't.
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  But boy oh boy do I wanna do it. I don't.
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  Know boy, just OK, yeah, just playing a poker game.
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  You're like, yeah, but what about FanDuel?
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  I could play 88 fortunes make a ways anyways, but dispatch, wow,
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  wow, wow. I cannot wait for Season 2.
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  I've not finished it. I'm right after we're done
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  recording this episode. I'm going immediately into
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  editing and then immediately into dispatch episode 8, and I
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  love it. I love it and I what a great
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  cast. We're going to do a full review,
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  me, you and Evan, but like, we'll get a little bit of
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  chitchat out of the way with this.
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  The cast is incredible and it's having Aaron Paul as the main
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  was something I, I kind of initially was like, that's a
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  weird choice because right, like acting and voice acting are not
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  exactly the same skill set. Not always at least right?
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  Some people, some people are great actors and shit voice
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  actors. He kills it.
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  He it. I adored his fucking character
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  throughout our character. I guess, however you want to say
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  it, but God, he's so good. He did such a good job and it
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  honestly at no point during it was I like, Oh yeah, that's
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  fucking Aaron Paul, right, like. No, I know that, Jesse Pinkman.
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  I never once have done that. No, he he puts enough of a
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  unique spin and characterization onto this onto you, Robert, and
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  fuck, man, it's good. And all of the the the whole
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  voice cast is good. I I was surprised.
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  I actually I'm not like a huge YouTube guy, right?
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  I like Jack Jacksepticeye in this.
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  I liked Moist Critical in this. Young gravy.
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  Young gravy. Which yeah, granted his voice
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  was pretty modulated right? But holy shit he is one of the.
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  Funniest Funniest characters in the game?
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  Yes, like. Absolutely it.
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  It's absolutely wild and bewildering to me how good this
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  turned out because like, we saw it announced and I didn't know
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  it was going to be this mature. Yeah, it's very mature.
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  And. Very mature.
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  I was like, damn, dude, this is like really like I know that
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  there's some hero fatigue and I know at this point there's even
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  more like the boys hero fatigue where it's like if heroes were
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  just not heroes, but also doing heroic shit.
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  But this is one of those things. This is like it just hits that
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  point because there's it's that it scratches that itch because
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  of what it's doing and what it's saying.
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  Like, and I feel like we've all had like a friend like Robert,
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  we've all had that friend, just the dude who's like been super
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  low in life. And but it's still like that guy
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  going let's get up and let's do this.
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  And we've all had that person in our life.
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  It's awesome. Like play this game.
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  I don't care that people are going well, it's not much of A
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  shut up. It's a game, go play this.
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  Visual novels have been a genre video game for decades now.
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  Like, this is nothing new. This is and it's it's like a
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  Telltale, right? Like this is this.
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  The studio has a handful of the people that worked on the old
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  Telltale game back when people adored it, right?
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  And I think this blows every Telltale game out of the water,
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  personally. I, I was never a big Telltale
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  fan. I I'm also not a big visual
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  novel guy, right? But I think the way that they do
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  it in this game, there's just enough of like the dispatching
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  and like some of the other odds and in things that happen and
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  making decisions that it keeps your attention.
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  It's not just literally sitting there watching something unfold,
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  right? It's not like watching an anime.
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  It's not like watching any other show.
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  Like you are involved consistently enough that like I
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  never picked up my phone during this.
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  Whereas other games when a story beats happening, I'm like, fuck
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  it, I don't really care. I'll pick up my phone and do
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  something or whatever, right? I'm a piece of shit, I
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  understand. But this, this game captured my
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  attention. You always had to be ready to
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  make a decision or do something. And where a lot of games do this
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  like choose your own adventure type of thing or not even really
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  that many because I feel like most of them have the idea of
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  that, but they don't actually follow through on it.
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  This one actually has implications that your decisions
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  do have implications on the story.
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  Some of them aren't like crazy, right?
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  Or they're whatever you pick is like mirrored at some point,
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  right? But that being said, it all has
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  implications. It all changes how the people
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  around you respond to you in things that will a decision that
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  you would have down the road. Like I said, my ending changed
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  because of something I decided in Episode 7, despite everything
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  I had decided prior to that. A singular decision in episode 7
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  changed my ending. Yeah.
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  It's. It's great, man.
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  Yeah, it's just a date. They nailed it, man.
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  And you know, there has been talk of a Season 2 and ad hoc
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  was kind of like, yeah, I mean, maybe like right now there's
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  nothing confirmed. There is, there is no
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  definitive. Yeah, we're getting a Season 2.
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  But given the hit that this has been, I hope they do.
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  I think there's room to do a Season 2, even if it is like a
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  completely different team, a different, like something even
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  completely like not even taking place at this time.
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  Like I I think there's a lot of room to do more with this idea
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  and still keep the superhero stick or, you know, something of
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  that nature. But I also, like you said, there
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  is superhero fatigue, especially on the hero side of things.
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  I I haven't heard as much about things like the boys because I
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  don't I don't think that one's really over saturated so much
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  where no, it's kind of like piece of shit superheroes owned
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  by a corporation. I feel like that's still pretty
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  safe. Jenna, you was really good.
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  I I personally really enjoyed Gen.
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  V which was their little like spin off.
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  It leads into. Yeah, it's spin off tied in type
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  of deal, but I I enjoyed the hell out of it.
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  We just finished season 2, probably, I don't know, a month
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  ago it. Was right around me to.
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  Running it's good. It's really, really good, but
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  but it's hard for me to see the superhero fatigue.
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  Like I I get the kind of being over some of the Marvel stuff
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  for sure. I I haven't even watched half of
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  the Marvel shows. There's a couple movies I didn't
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  watch like and and I'm a huge marvel fan, like right, like I
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  have marvel all over my arm and all over my walls and
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  everywhere, right. But I just, I feel like this is
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  different enough. This is doing something almost
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  Suicide Squad esque, but God, they, they make the character so
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  fucking likable. Even even the ones that you
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  start out hating or most of them you do because they're assholes,
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  right? But there there's a certain
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  quality about even like the the one character that I did not
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  like up until fuck, it was like episode 6 where I was finally
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  like, OK, fine, I get it. I get it.
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  Right. Yeah, but man, it's, it's good.
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  Go play this game. Your brother also complained.
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  He's like, I don't know if this was worth $30.
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  I'm like, what if if you went to the movies with one other
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  person, it costs more? It was 2 hours of your fucking
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  time. This is way better than any
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  fucking movie I've ever watched. I like way better.
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  It's way more entertaining. It's you're involved.
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  Like I love it. I'm going to play through it
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  again. I'm going to end up with like 16
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  hours in this game. And I want, I want like 100% the
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  game like achievement, yeah, but yeah, which is.
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  Dude, that's going to be tough. I mean to some extent, right,
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  like you're going to have to play through it a couple times
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  probably, but yeah, I I want to play through it again and and
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  play the the different path and God, I, I just I will be pissed
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  off if this game does not get something a game boards.
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  I don't know what right because I I, I feel like.
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  No, it's. Not going to get game of the
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  year and that's fair right This has been a huge year for there's
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  been a lot of good games. I I think it maybe has a
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  fighting chance and narrative maybe, but even then it wouldn't
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  be my choice and narrative either because.
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  Something along those lines. I, I feel like art direction is
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  a great place for this to win. I personally my pick for for, I
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  mean, I guess we'll get into that later, but nobody's going
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  to be surprised to hear me say Expedition 33 would be my
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  narrative of the year. But but God, man, yeah, this,
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  this deserves flowers and it deserves all the attention that
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  it's getting and all the sales that it's making.
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  Go play this fucking game. It's cool.
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  I want to try to get Amber to play it.
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  I want to get Perry to play it. Yeah, I I see you're going to
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  have a lot easier time getting Perry to play it than I am.
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  Amber the only game she yeah fair enough.
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  The only only thing that Amber has really played in the last
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  like 5 years is like Mario Kart and she played a lot of Animal
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  Crossing during COVID. Yeah.
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  Yeah, and hasn't touched the switch for four years now.
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  Nintendo used sons of bitches. They knew what they were doing.
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  Oh yeah, I bought a console just for her to play Animal Crossing
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  during COVID. Everybody does.
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  Like, yeah, like everybody bought a Switch.
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  It's crazy, but I, I, yeah, God, dude, it's cool.
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  Other than that, I haven't played shit, dude.
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  I, I played a little bit of Battlefield, like maybe an hour
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  or maybe a couple hours and that's about it.
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  It's been, it's been weird. You know what I've been playing
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  Dispatch, Bilatro. Fucking Battlefield.
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  I need to get back on ARC. I really like that game.
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  I need to play it more with Evan, so him and I could do a
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  full review of it on the show. But yeah, Bilatro Dispatch and
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  Battlefield 6, what I've been playing to shift gears before we
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  start talking about a lot of the big hitters this week, Jeff
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  Keeley has announced that this upcoming Monday is going to be
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  the announcement for The Game Awards.
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  So all the categories, what's in those categories, yadda, yadda,
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  yadda. So gear, get ready to gear up
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  with us as we find the time in our lives to make rushed, last
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  minute awesome episodes of us getting shit together to
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  discuss. Because we do it every year.
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  The end of this year is going to get real busy.
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  Yeah, we, we got to go through all of those categories, make
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  our picks and our predictions. We got to do our our yearly Game
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  Awards watch. Love those episodes though, I
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  love them and I hope you guys do as well.
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  Those those episodes tend to do really good for us.
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  We also typically will do like our own game of the year type of
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  situation as well or like our top 510, whatever from the year.
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  So yeah, there's, there's some really cool episodes that are
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  going to be in the works and I'm fucking excited.
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  It's my favorite time. I I love.
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  These it's Christmas before Christmas, Yeah, so fucking I'm
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  I'm ready to have fun. I am so ready to have fucking
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  fun. Man, oh man, it's been a week
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  and I don't want to. We're not gonna start there.
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  We're gonna start with Ubisoft. There's not a whole lot of news.
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  We know that the what? The shareholders meeting was
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  cancelled. The.
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  Fucking was it cancelled or delayed?
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  I thought it was. Delayed initially.
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  Was it delayed 'cause they also stopped?
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  What was it? I I caught it like as it was
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  happening and did not have a chance to go back to it so it
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  may have been cancelled. I will take a peek and see if I
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  can't find something. What that tell what?
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  What it tells me is that I think Saudi, they're going to get some
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  Saudi money, dude. They're going to be bought out
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  too. Oh, probably.
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  That's what it sounds like to me.
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  Like, I know because everyone's like, and that's not good
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  because it's not good. Weird little tidbit as I was
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  trying to find this. Immortals Immortals Phoenix
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  Rising is free to keep on Ubisoft Connect until December
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  2nd, so there's that. Go grab that I guess if you want
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  to use that launcher. God damn it, dude.
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  Fuck, Apparently the dispatch rider regrets cutting sex scenes
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  as well. There was more.
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  Apparently. Put those back in.
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  Give us those back. What are you doing?
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  Yeah. Can we get a director's cut of
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  this? Come on, give it back.
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  I forgot to say, I actually went back and bought the deluxe
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  edition after I played through it.
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  Actually, I was like Episode 6 and I was like, fuck this.
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  I'm, I'm giving these guys $10 more.
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  Come on. I want physical comics.
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  Oh yeah, 'cause they have the comic section in there, it'd be
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  sweet to have some some physical comics.
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  I know I not to drag us back into where we've already
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  treaded, but yeah, I'm trying to see.
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  I know Keely posted about it and if we can't find the shareholder
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  meeting was either cancelled or delayed and then there was like
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  they couldn't sell the stocks and all that shit right now or
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  like trading and all that got delayed as well.
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  So this is from 10 hours ago says Ubisoft delays earnings
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  release and halts trading 15 minutes before scheduled call
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  with investors. So that's that's what I had seen
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  earlier as well. So here's a.
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  Good sign. Postponement of H1F fiscal year
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  2025 to 2026 results announcement Ubisoft announces
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  the postponement of the release of its results for the first
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  half of the fiscal year 2025 to 2026.
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  Ubisoft has requested Euro Next to halt trading of its shares
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  and its bonds from the market opening on November 14th, 2025
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  until the publication of its first half 2025 to 2026 results.
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  In the coming days, Ubisoft will inform the market of the date on
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  which trading will restart. Yeah, that's not good.
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  Not good. So basically they had shit
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  numbers to show and they postponed this hoping that they
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  I I assume have been trying to work out some sort of deal and
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  they are probably close to closing on this deal.
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  Thought they would have it done in time.
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  There was probably something that hung it up and they
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  literally were down to 15 minutes before this was supposed
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  to release. It sounds like Ubisoft.
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  Ubisoft has been in danger for a couple years now at least.
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  Probably a good five. I remember covering it back in
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  the diggity days of being like, yeah, Ubisoft is going to sell,
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  right? This is going to happen, right?
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  I, I don't know, man. I, I can't say I'm a big Ubisoft
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  fan anyway, I they make the same game with different coats of
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  paint and it's uninteresting. The, you know, back in the day
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  when they first came out with Assassin's Creed, it was
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  exciting. It was something new.
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  And then they're like, yeah, let's do this for the next 20
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  years. And yeah, let's actually go
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  backwards and make them worse. Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah.
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  Take, take the things that were actually good about this and
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  just fuck it up. I know some people were super
• 22:17
  fond of the the. Avatar.
• 22:20
  Game, but a lot of that was people who were fans of Avatar.
• 22:23
  So I grain of salt to some extent right.
• 22:28
  I know that Star Wars outlaws was I I heard a lot of mixed
• 22:33
  things on it. It was.
• 22:34
  OK. Yeah, I don't know, Ubisoft has
• 22:39
  just been floundering for a while now.
• 22:42
  I'm. I'm.
• 22:44
  Yeah, and I'm surprised they held out this long.
• 22:48
  I mean when the most interesting and unique game you have made in
• 22:52
  the last 20 years has been a fucking Mario and Rabbids game
• 22:58
  on the switch, I. Guess they got siege.
• 23:01
  Yeah, they have siege, right. But even that, I mean, I don't
• 23:04
  think that's a cash cow it once was.
• 23:06
  No. I don't with the I, I haven't
• 23:09
  heard anyone talk about C Jacks since it launched.
• 23:13
  No, we were all excited about it and it came out and.
• 23:17
  We don't it's the same I've. Never even played it.
• 23:19
  I've never even played it. It's the same.
• 23:22
  Yeah, I God, I this doesn't surprise me.
• 23:26
  It's, it sucks to see, right? To some extent, just because
• 23:31
  anytime you get one of these situations where one of your
• 23:34
  major developers is like going under and going to sell to
• 23:38
  somebody, it's not a good thing. For the industry, you know it's
• 23:42
  very bad. It's very fucking bad,
• 23:44
  especially on the heels of of fucking EA selling to to Saudi
• 23:51
  Arabia too. It's like God this and and.
• 23:54
  And everyone assumes this is probably the Saudis again,
• 23:56
  because who is investing this kind of money into the gaming
• 24:00
  industry other than the Saudis currently?
• 24:03
  And for what? Yeah, I, I, I, I kind of
• 24:07
  understand EA at least a little bit, right?
• 24:09
  You have the esports, you have, you have FIFA, you have Madden,
• 24:13
  you have, there's some big cash cows there.
• 24:15
  I don't know why anybody would buy Ubisoft at this point.
• 24:19
  Unless they're just trying to buy it to revitalize Splinter
• 24:22
  Cell. I doubt it.
• 24:24
  I I don't think there's anyone out there that's going to spend
• 24:28
  billions of dollars because they want to bring back Splinter
• 24:30
  Cell, but just. God damn it, dude.
• 24:35
  Boy, yeah, this is kind of crazy, man.
• 24:38
  I don't, I don't know. I it, there's, there's part of
• 24:42
  me that's almost hopeful that they're not selling to like,
• 24:46
  maybe just selling to like Sony, right?
• 24:49
  I, I could, I can understand that I I hate big acquisitions,
• 24:53
  but. Yeah, but I don't know.
• 24:57
  At least it's almost in house. It's like we know Sony like I, I
• 25:01
  know you. Right.
• 25:03
  Yeah, you modeled Horizon Forbidden Dawn off of our games.
• 25:09
  Damn Brody, Calm. Down.
• 25:11
  I don't like those games. I'm so sorry.
• 25:14
  They're boring and Aloy has a huge head.
• 25:16
  Yeah, fuck. I just, yeah, I, I I would kind
• 25:21
  of hope that they're selling to somebody different, I guess.
• 25:25
  I don't know. I can't imagine this isn't going
• 25:27
  to be Xbox. Obviously they they can't for a
• 25:31
  while. I doubt Sony at that point, I
• 25:35
  doubt Sony's actually going to spend the money.
• 25:40
  Yeah, I mean, it, it's, it's almost got to be 10 cent.
• 25:43
  It's. The Saudis.
• 25:45
  Isn't $0.10 already a major share?
• 25:47
  Or not a major but a large shareholder in Ubisoft?
• 25:51
  I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe $0.10 just buys them out,
• 25:53
  right? So that's not good either.
• 25:56
  No, no, no, pretty much everything.
• 26:00
  Tailspin Purchase Listen, the gaming industry right now is not
• 26:05
  looking great. It's looking a little brighter
• 26:09
  though. It there?
• 26:10
  There's little glimmers of hope, for sure.
• 26:14
  And I want to start off with this.
• 26:17
  I told you also. No, no, motherfucker, you can't
• 26:20
  do that. You can't do that 365 days a
• 26:24
  week a year and be like I told you.
• 26:27
  I told you. Yeah, eventually you're going to
• 26:30
  be right, motherfucker. Oh man, it was a very, very cool
• 26:34
  day yesterday on Tuesday. Yes, it was cool.
• 26:37
  It was, it was, it was very cool or no, It was Wednesday, right?
• 26:41
  It was Wednesday yesterday. Yeah, yesterday Valve tweets out
• 26:48
  goes here you go. Yes, there was there was a
• 26:52
  marketing push type thing where IGN posts and like game and
• 26:57
  well, PC Gamer and like all the other publications, Tom's
• 27:01
  Hardware and like all these prominent people were like, hey,
• 27:06
  we, we, we've got our hands on these.
• 27:08
  It's cool shit. So let's get into that.
• 27:11
  Prior to this, we had already had inklings of all of these
• 27:16
  from people like sadly, it's Bradley, Tyler Mcvicker, Gabe
• 27:22
  Follower, all these people, prominent leakers, valve
• 27:26
  leakers, had already we we'd already known about the Steam
• 27:31
  Machine. We had already known about the
• 27:33
  Deckard, now known as the Steam Frame due to a, what's it
• 27:39
  called, copyright that was released by mistake.
• 27:42
  So we know that Valve copy put a copyright on Steam Frame and we
• 27:47
  already knew about the Steam Controller.
• 27:49
  It does look like the AI slop that we did see.
• 27:53
  Yeah, yeah. There's like mocks of that
• 27:59
  controller that go back like a year.
• 28:02
  Or. More of where people had done
• 28:04
  this. Yeah, I'll wait.
• 28:07
  Go ahead. It is cool to know that none of
• 28:13
  this these leaks were intentional from Valve.
• 28:17
  Basically one of they one of the developers was asked yesterday
• 28:21
  like hey, like are you Lee guys leaving bread crumbs?
• 28:23
  They're like, Nope, Usually it's a fat finger that leads to all
• 28:29
  this and they were like, can we post that?
• 28:32
  They're like, it is what it is. So it is cool see Valve going
• 28:37
  yeah, we're but we don't, they don't focus on the leaks.
• 28:39
  They're like, yeah, OK, yeah, whatever.
• 28:40
  They keep moving and that's important here.
• 28:44
  So this is big and it's big for a multitude of reasons if done
• 28:53
  right. And I will be critical here
• 28:55
  because price point for all of these is important.
• 28:59
  It is very important for Valve to be competitive, but the let's
• 29:05
  start with the Steam Machine. The Steam Machine is a, in my
• 29:09
  opinion, one of the best entry ways for people who don't into
• 29:12
  PC gaming. If you do not own a computer, if
• 29:16
  that is an awesome, awesome piece of hardware, if you don't
• 29:21
  own a computer and you want to get into PC gaming, this thing
• 29:25
  is a computer. Yes, my rebuttal to that is the
• 29:33
  fact that it is Linux based. So if you are not familiar with
• 29:38
  utilizing a computer, Linux is not the easiest thing to use.
• 29:41
  That being said, this is going to function predominantly like a
• 29:45
  console. You can.
• 29:48
  However, as Valve did say, if you want to put windows on it,
• 29:53
  you can put windows on it. Right.
• 29:54
  Yeah. It it this is, I mean it it's
• 29:56
  going to be using Steam OS it it's going to function very
• 30:01
  similarly to how the Steam Deck functions as far as a what
• 30:06
  they're going to be able to do with it.
• 30:09
  I I, I do have a few qualms with what they have said so far,
• 30:15
  like, you know, touting the 4K gaming yeah, in some things.
• 30:22
  They're also going to expand the Deck verified to the the the
• 30:27
  steam machine as well, where it's going to be like a steam
• 30:30
  machine verified. So not everything is going to
• 30:33
  work perfectly right. If if you have a Steam Deck, you
• 30:36
  understand what this means the the fact that everything has to
• 30:41
  go through a. It's ARM based and all that.
• 30:45
  It has to go through a compatibility layer because it
• 30:48
  is taking something that was originally purpose for Windows
• 30:52
  and essentially making it be able to work with Linux as well,
• 30:58
  right? So this is going to be it.
• 31:01
  And you can't play every single game on here not off the get go.
• 31:05
  It's going to take a lot of time.
• 31:06
  It's going to take a lot of work.
• 31:08
  Early adopters to the Steam Deck like both of you and I had
• 31:12
  gotten Steam Deck. The the games originally were
• 31:15
  pretty limited and and it get it gets better and as games come
• 31:19
  out they purposely do design games with the intention of
• 31:22
  being able to run on the Steam Deck.
• 31:25
  And this will be the same thing. I imagine anything that can run
• 31:29
  on on the Deck is going to be able to run on this like I
• 31:32
  write. Out the no.
• 31:33
  Issues. Yeah, no issue.
• 31:34
  All of that shit is already there.
• 31:35
  So some of the the, the groundwork has already been
• 31:39
  laid. But that being said there,
• 31:42
  there's going to be a lot of games that you won't necessarily
• 31:45
  be able to play here right off the get go or games that are
• 31:49
  coming out you will. And there's going to be some
• 31:52
  concessions, right? The the GPU that is in this is
• 31:58
  essentially like a RX 4600 M equivalent.
• 32:02
  I have all of these specs. We'll we'll go through here
• 32:05
  momentarily. Right.
• 32:06
  But yeah, I mean, as far as what that spec actually is, it is
• 32:10
  equivalent to like a or. Sorry, I think it was a.
• 32:14
  Was it a 4600? I fucking posted about it
• 32:16
  yesterday. I I forget exactly what it is,
• 32:21
  but I but it's they're saying it's like.
• 32:22
  A600 series somewhere. Yeah, it's this should run
• 32:26
  essentially close to like your PS-5 and Xbox Series X if I'm
• 32:32
  not mistaken. 7600 M But the problem that I have seen a lot
• 32:38
  of people bring up to is it's pretty short on RAM.
• 32:42
  It is. It is.
• 32:43
  RAM is not great and people are speculating that this is going
• 32:48
  to be slightly below the performance of like a
• 32:51
  PlayStation 5. Right, OK.
• 32:54
  So just just below right like in but like you said earlier, the
• 33:01
  biggest thing is going to be the price point on this, which Steam
• 33:04
  learned their lesson to some extent.
• 33:06
  Where they used to make high end peripherals and hardware with
• 33:11
  the Steam Deck, they are actually taking a pretty
• 33:13
  significant loss on that and making it all back in software
• 33:17
  that they sell. I imagine they're going to do
• 33:19
  the exact same fucking thing here.
• 33:21
  And it's common for consoles, right?
• 33:22
  Most consoles lose money, not usually a ton, but they lose
• 33:27
  money and they make money back in the storefront.
• 33:29
  So anyway, I didn't need to like completely derate.
• 33:33
  Yeah, and Valve. Valve makes fucking money hand
• 33:37
  over fist. With Gabe Newell, sell them the
• 33:42
  Gabe the the Gabe cube it's going to be.
• 33:46
  I love that somebody picked that up instantly.
• 33:49
  Love it. So in this machine.
• 33:52
  And then I'm going to go into a theory.
• 33:54
  I have a couple theories I have regarding the machine and it's
• 34:00
  tinfoil hat time, but it's warranted tinfoil hat time.
• 34:03
  I think it it, it, it makes sense to me.
• 34:06
  So you have an AMD Zen 46 core 12 thread processor up to 4.8
• 34:11
  gigahertz. That's that's that's good.
• 34:15
  That's a very good CPU. I don't think anybody was too
• 34:19
  concerned about the CPU. The GPU was always going to be
• 34:22
  the concern in this form factor, right?
• 34:25
  So we have an AM DRDN A3 with 2028 CUDA cores, right?
• 34:32
  I'm believing that's what that is up to, yeah.
• 34:36
  Yeah. CUDA cores up to 2.45 gigahertz
• 34:40
  with 110 Watt TDP. It's fine, It's good.
• 34:44
  Yeah, doing its thing like for a.
• 34:46
  For a 6 inch cube, pretty fucking.
• 34:50
  The inside of this thing is so awesome.
• 34:52
  It's all heat sync. It's.
• 34:54
  Oh, it has to be. It has to be.
• 34:57
  We have for the RAM, 16 gigabytes of DDR5 RAM.
• 35:01
  That isn't a lot, but it is the current generation of RAM, Yeah.
• 35:08
  I just hope maybe it's we'll get to that.
• 35:12
  So with with AV RAM of eight GB G DDR6 storage.
• 35:17
  G Ram is a touch concerning too, right?
• 35:19
  It is for the storage you you have your choice here.
• 35:23
  So this could be two models to choose from.
• 35:25
  It seems like that is 512 gigabytes or two terabyte SSD.
• 35:30
  It's a huge jump in. That's a massive jump.
• 35:34
  It seems crazy with and they also they're Oh yeah, I was
• 35:38
  going to say they're also expandable with that a micro SD
• 35:40
  card. And it has a slot for an m.two.
• 35:44
  Slots for m.two. It's fucking incredible.
• 35:47
  I. Love to see it.
• 35:49
  I love to see it. That is great.
• 35:52
  That is really good. It's probably.
• 35:53
  Going to be those little stubby fucking m.twos.
• 35:56
  There's full size, there's is. There full size.
• 35:59
  So I think there's a stubby 1 and then there's full size.
• 36:02
  That thing from what I saw from one end to the other like.
• 36:06
  Bless the Papa, Gabe. A stick of m.two is like what,
• 36:11
  fucking 4 1/2 inches or something like that?
• 36:14
  Like that, Like like that, something like that, yeah.
• 36:17
  Yeah, that's Wilds. That's a this is this thing is
• 36:21
  like an engineering marvel. Like I I I'm not one to ever pad
• 36:26
  an engineer on the back by any means because I worked in
• 36:29
  maintenance and engineers or the bane of my existence, but holy
• 36:32
  shit this is incredible what they've done so.
• 36:36
  For our connectivity we got Wi-Fi 6E Cool, no complaints
• 36:41
  there. Bluetooth capabilities,
• 36:43
  obviously getting into the Valve frame and the Steam frame rather
• 36:47
  and the Steam controller. We have an Ethernet port, you're
• 36:50
  going to need that. This is also wireless obviously.
• 36:53
  Display port 1.4. Thumbs up.
• 36:56
  I I know everyone's griping on HDMI 2 point O but a lot of
• 36:59
  people griping about that are also console players and not
• 37:01
  understanding I'll be using the display port.
• 37:04
  I am fine with that. Yeah, use.
• 37:06
  Use the fucking display port if you can.
• 37:09
  For sure, that's how you'll get the full performance.
• 37:11
  So HDMI is like how many people even have HDMI cable cables that
• 37:16
  are capable of much beyond two point O like unless you have a
• 37:20
  system specifically set up for that you you you don't have an
• 37:24
  HDMI cable that's. Like, they're also very pricey
• 37:28
  cables for no reason. So right, let's keep it at that.
• 37:32
  USB 3.2 Gen. 2 type C for four of those or no, there's there's
• 37:39
  one of those plus 4 USB type A ports.
• 37:43
  No, there's four. It's 4I.
• 37:44
  I wrote this confusingly, I'm an asshole.
• 37:48
  Performance capable of 64K60FPS gaming with FSR enabled and ray
• 37:55
  trace supported. Ray tracing supported.
• 37:57
  So I'm gonna be playing this at 1080P.
• 38:00
  Yes. Absolutely, I'm fine with that.
• 38:02
  This this, this should this shouldn't really go above 1080P.
• 38:07
  Like, yeah, it can probably do 4K on like an indie game.
• 38:12
  You could you could probably run this pushing like 1440P, but
• 38:17
  even then you might have to dumb down some settings.
• 38:19
  Like 1080P is going to be the sweet spot for this.
• 38:24
  I think that's. Fine.
• 38:25
  That's fine. That's that's totally
• 38:27
  respectable, dude. I, I for me, we'll get into the
• 38:30
  theories here in a minute. This is a great entry point for
• 38:34
  people who don't have a gaming PC depending on the price.
• 38:40
  And I think Valve learned, as you said, lessons here.
• 38:46
  And I don't think they're going to do what they did with the
• 38:48
  with the index. I just don't I don't.
• 38:50
  The index was I, I, I, I don't see it happening.
• 38:53
  The Index was far too great. Piece of tech, great headset,
• 38:57
  way too expensive. Way too expensive and and very
• 39:02
  early to half of the tech that was in there.
• 39:05
  So it makes sense why it was expensive, but also the timing
• 39:10
  was not great. Granted the index sold well,
• 39:13
  right? It did from from but it also.
• 39:14
  Had half life, Alex. Which certainly helps, right?
• 39:19
  Yeah, If I was going to buy AVR headset and wanted something
• 39:23
  that was going to be one of the best, I would get the Index,
• 39:26
  right? Like the Index still to this day
• 39:28
  is one of the powerhouse it. That the metaquest 3.
• 39:33
  I think it even surpasses the Metaquest 3.
• 39:37
  I think the metaquest 3 the only thing in it's corner is really
• 39:40
  the AR implementation, whereas the the yeah or.
• 39:47
  Sorry, I was thinking. Samsung maybe?
• 39:54
  No, no, no, I, I is the Oculus and Metaquest.
• 39:56
  Are those two different tiers or is that just a different name
• 40:00
  for the same thing because the Oculus?
• 40:02
  Same thing. OK, the Oculus is only like
• 40:05
  $300. Metaquest 3 I thought was 300
• 40:08
  bucks you know? That's what I'm saying, yeah.
• 40:11
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 40:12
  OK, OK. OK, I I couldn't remember.
• 40:13
  We're not. They change.
• 40:15
  Yeah, that we're not. But they also changed names in
• 40:18
  the middle of all of this shit. And I couldn't remember if that
• 40:20
  was part of the rebranding or whatever.
• 40:23
  Yeah. But regardless, that's like a
• 40:25
  three $350.00 headset, which is, I mean, the Index is still what,
• 40:31
  $999? A grand for everything.
• 40:34
  Yeah, it's a fucking brand. I I still think the index is far
• 40:39
  and away better than the Oculus 3, but the Oculus 3 has yeah,
• 40:43
  the controllers are a huge part of it, but the the Oculus has
• 40:46
  the AR pass through type shit. So it's cool in that regard.
• 40:51
  But also the Index came out before that was really a huge
• 40:54
  implementation into the VR space, so.
• 40:59
  But dude I can man I I I know I don't need it.
• 41:04
  I will be getting one of these though for my entertainment
• 41:06
  center. I'm going to grab a steam
• 41:08
  machine from This is for me, that's for my son, that's for my
• 41:11
  wife. It's going to be a blast.
• 41:12
  I have considered replacing So we have an Xbox, a series X and
• 41:20
  then we have the PlayStation five.
• 41:22
  I have considered. I cancelled it all game pass.
• 41:26
  I have no live functionality on the Xbox at this point.
• 41:30
  I have actually considered selling this at some point to
• 41:34
  maybe pick the this steam machine up because.
• 41:39
  That's awesome. Typically my oldest is the one
• 41:42
  that plays on the Xbox. He also has a Steam account, so
• 41:46
  he plays a lot of things through Steam on his own computer.
• 41:49
  But sometimes he wants to be out there and playing with his
• 41:53
  brother or friends or whatever it may be.
• 41:55
  So it's. Perfect.
• 41:57
  This is a good use case for me personally because he's also not
• 42:01
  a graphic snob by any means. Like he grew up in the age of
• 42:04
  Roblox and. There you go.
• 42:06
  Fortnite or Fortnite, right? So like Fortnite, Fortnite, but
• 42:12
  the, the, the Roblox, like they don't care about graphics in the
• 42:17
  same way that I feel like our generation did, because they
• 42:20
  don't, they don't. They weren't there for the huge
• 42:23
  jumps in graphics that we saw either.
• 42:26
  They weren't there for, you know, the PlayStation 1 graphics
• 42:30
  to PlayStation two to PlayStation 3, like how
• 42:33
  exponentially better it got with each generation.
• 42:37
  And now we've hit that kind of taper off point.
• 42:39
  So they're like, yeah, I don't know, man.
• 42:40
  It like it all kind of looks the same and you're like.
• 42:43
  But it doesn't show up. But I mean, right now his
• 42:48
  computer has like a 2060 in it, I think 2060 super, I think so.
• 42:55
  I mean, it's not amazing by today's standards, but it still
• 42:59
  holds its own. But I've never once heard him
• 43:02
  complain about graphics. Like I have thought about
• 43:04
  upgrading his graphics card but that's because me daddy, my
• 43:09
  brains like my brains like well if I give him my graphics card I
• 43:14
  can get. I have to get a new.
• 43:16
  One I have to get a new one. What do you want me to do?
• 43:19
  I know it was a grand and a half, but what did you want me
• 43:22
  to do? Yeah, right.
• 43:23
  What am I supposed to do? My hands were tied, the boys.
• 43:26
  Did for me. But I, I think that's a good use
• 43:30
  case for me personally of of utilizing that replacing the
• 43:33
  Xbox, selling the Xbox off. Granted I have a large library
• 43:38
  on Xbox because I was predominantly an Xbox gamer, but
• 43:41
  I also am not really going to go back to it.
• 43:43
  So I don't know man, this is cool.
• 43:48
  But again, the price point is going to be key here because
• 43:52
  this is a very introductory level PC in a nice form factor
• 44:01
  that is going to run Linux and Steam OS, and so that makes it
• 44:06
  finicky in some regard. Where it is not, it is not
• 44:10
  going, especially if you throw it under ATV, it's not going to
• 44:13
  be nearly as accessible or easy to fuck with as sitting here at
• 44:18
  my computer where I have three monitors and can fuck with
• 44:21
  everything I want to at any given time.
• 44:23
  If you want to boot into Windows, so be it, but I don't
• 44:26
  think that's the best use case for this.
• 44:28
  I think using Steam big screen mode is going to be best
• 44:33
  utilizing the Steam OS in the the way that it is designed to
• 44:37
  function. The moment you add a Windows
• 44:40
  layer in there and do something different, you're going to run
• 44:43
  into different problems. Things that are going to be
• 44:47
  verified in theory should run well.
• 44:50
  Granted, their Deck fair verified has kind of been a
• 44:53
  little hit or miss sometimes, but I think utilizing this out
• 44:58
  the box the way it is is going to be great.
• 45:01
  This would also make a great emulator machine.
• 45:04
  I'm just. Saying it would.
• 45:05
  It absolutely would. It would make an incredible.
• 45:09
  This thing. Incredible emulator.
• 45:11
  Machine, the different things that people are going to be able
• 45:13
  to do with this is awesome and I cannot wait to see the minute
• 45:18
  this thing goes gets to the public, it's immediately people
• 45:21
  are like, yeah, if you do this and this and this, this is what
• 45:24
  you could do on it and everyone's gonna go cool, I'm
• 45:27
  in. And half of that groundwork is
• 45:29
  already done, right? Like it's it's already on the
• 45:31
  Steam Deck. And they already have a way they
• 45:34
  love. Valve wants you to do this.
• 45:35
  Oh, absolutely. That's.
• 45:37
  I don't beauty. I don't think Valve would be
• 45:39
  like, hey, go out and emulate, but you know, they don't.
• 45:42
  They don't give a fuck. They're not going to publicly be
• 45:45
  like, hey, by the way, you can. Play did it, whatever I guess.
• 45:49
  You could play Majora's Mask on this if you wanted to, but we
• 45:53
  didn't tell you that. Wink wink, no, this is great.
• 45:56
  This gets 2 giant thumbs up and I will be an early adopter
• 45:59
  probably the minute I can purchase it.
• 46:01
  I'm going to be purchasing this. Not a single person is surprised
• 46:04
  by that. No, you shouldn't be.
• 46:06
  So my thing is this, if this is being treated as a console, we
• 46:13
  don't have a game for it yet. And I think it's Valve.
• 46:17
  No, listen, like, but how smart? How smart would this be?
• 46:21
  You haven't announced the price point for any of this.
• 46:26
  The smartest thing to do here is to when you announce the price
• 46:30
  point and be like, Oh yeah, by the way, boom.
• 46:34
  This is if you if you don't have APC that you can only play half
• 46:39
  life whatever on PC and or the Steam machine.
• 46:44
  Therefore, if you don't have APC you want to get in this thing
• 46:47
  will cost $500. Let's say 500 bucks for the
• 46:50
  steam machine seven 5800 for the two terabyte that is.
• 46:58
  And you say you can play half Life 3 on this day one it
• 47:03
  releases if you don't have a computer, this thing, Brody will
• 47:09
  not be able you will not be able to buy this.
• 47:13
  This would that would be the craziest move they could do.
• 47:17
  This would sell get you would not be able to buy this thing.
• 47:19
  No, you wouldn't. You're, you're not wrong, right?
• 47:23
  I like I I I fully understand. They haven't announced the price
• 47:27
  for any of it. They haven't announced a price.
• 47:31
  I think 500 is definitely that sweet spot for the, the, the
• 47:36
  lower storage count the the 516 or whatever it was Five 12512
• 47:42
  yeah, sorry, but yeah, I, I, I think you're looking at 6:50 at
• 47:49
  the very least for the two terabyte, probably closer to
• 47:51
  700. I don't.
• 47:53
  Have a problem with that? My only problem with it is the
• 47:58
  fact that you could probably buy storage yourself and do it
• 48:01
  cheaper, right? Like so.
• 48:03
  I was that's I'm not getting the two terabyte because that's what
• 48:06
  I'm going to be doing. Yeah, especially if it has an
• 48:08
  m.twoslotgetafucking2ter. You could throw micro SD cards
• 48:11
  in that bitch too. Yeah, and external hard drives,
• 48:14
  like there's so many options here.
• 48:17
  But for the people who are not incredibly tech savvy and don't
• 48:21
  want to fuck with it, they're just going to buy the two
• 48:23
  terabyte and call it a day, right?
• 48:24
  Like they're going to have all of the storage that they not
• 48:28
  necessarily could ever want, but a good amount of it.
• 48:32
  Like that's good storage. You could even, I mean, you
• 48:35
  could even do external m.twos, right?
• 48:38
  Like there's external SSDs, there's external like housings
• 48:42
  for m.two if you really wanted to.
• 48:44
  Like there's options here that you could really get this to a
• 48:49
  decent point with probably better storage all things
• 48:53
  considered right? Like you could buy Samsung what
• 48:57
  990 or whatever the fuck for? Throw some evos in this bitch,
• 49:00
  you're good dude. Yeah, right.
• 49:02
  Like I, I, I would also buy the, the the bare minimum of this if
• 49:09
  I do end up making this purchase and just upgrading it myself
• 49:13
  over time, right? Like 5-5 twelves fine for a
• 49:17
  little bit, not very long, especially, you know, games just
• 49:20
  keep getting bigger as graphics keep getting more intense.
• 49:23
  And but yeah, there's, there's so many options, so many things
• 49:29
  you can do with this, like. Replaceable face plates.
• 49:32
  My fucking tinkering brain is like salivating over the idea of
• 49:37
  having another one. Dude, I, I, I enjoy tinkering
• 49:41
  like it's my favorite thing to do.
• 49:43
  I spend more time tinkering with bullshit than I do actually
• 49:46
  playing games anymore. And this is like right up my
• 49:51
  alley. Something I would absolutely
• 49:53
  pick up and just tinker with and tinker with and tinker with and
• 49:56
  probably never actually play a game on it.
• 49:58
  Just keep tinkering with it until my little fucking that
• 50:02
  that part of my brain is satisfied.
• 50:04
  Yeah. And then I'd be like, oh, I'm
• 50:06
  just, yeah, exactly right. I, I do it with my steam Deck.
• 50:10
  I, I fucking did it with APS Vita.
• 50:13
  I did it with a Nintendo 2DS. Like I saw I have a whole PC
• 50:17
  that is dedicated to tinkering and things.
• 50:21
  We will not name on this podcast cool things, but like, God, it's
• 50:30
  so cool. Good thing it's not released yet
• 50:32
  because then we'd get drunk and buy one, huh?
• 50:35
  Yeah. Wait for that night.
• 50:37
  Well, I guarantee we'll be recording.
• 50:39
  Yeah, you're fuck. It's always your fault.
• 50:44
  It's your fault. It's a cool it it the thing also
• 50:47
  is this thing looks we need to get into the other topics or the
• 50:50
  other, Yeah. Hardworks.
• 50:51
  There's more. But this thing is sleek, and
• 50:56
  we've already seen what D Brand is going to be doing.
• 51:01
  Yeah, yes. This was made to be a Companion
• 51:03
  Cube bro. The companion cube thing is cool
• 51:07
  as shit. I'm I'm not even like a big like
• 51:10
  I I like portal right for sure, but I I'm not a valve die hard
• 51:15
  like you. That companion cube is so
• 51:18
  fucking cool and it was just begging to be it right?
• 51:23
  Like they they designed a 6 by 6 cube and you're like the first
• 51:28
  thing anyone that loves Valve is going to think is like, hey, I
• 51:32
  got an idea. Companion Cube for sure.
• 51:38
  Fuck Valve, you done it again. And I'm going, I, I didn't
• 51:43
  really talk on it before we branch off here, the the half
• 51:48
  life three thing is like perfect.
• 51:50
  It is. It is so fucking perfect.
• 51:52
  I, I don't want to give you that because I also still stand by
• 51:56
  the fact that I don't know if it will ever come out, But if it is
• 52:01
  going to come out, this would be the time because it makes way
• 52:05
  too much sense. It prints money, all of the the
• 52:09
  the the loss that you're taking on this thing.
• 52:12
  You're going to make that like that instantly gone fucking for
• 52:16
  the for the lifespan of this console, because everyone's
• 52:19
  going to buy this, they're going to buy the the two terabyte,
• 52:21
  which you're going to make more money on because of the storage
• 52:23
  you're putting in. There is not going to be
• 52:25
  anything crazy, but you can charge $200 extra for fucking
• 52:29
  four times the storage, right? But oh man, yeah, if it's going
• 52:35
  to happen, this seems like the logical time to do it.
• 52:39
  I will give you that. I will give you nothing more,
• 52:43
  nothing more. But you get that it.
• 52:45
  Feels good. It feels good.
• 52:47
  So there's no prices on Andy's and we don't have the book yet.
• 52:51
  Yeah, it hasn't been released either.
• 52:52
  So this is looking if you are a Half Life fan just and a lot of
• 52:58
  the leakers who leaked this are saying wait until the 18th.
• 53:00
  Everybody and I went. What's happening on the 18th,
• 53:06
  please tell me. I don't have any good friends in
• 53:09
  high places though so we don't know, but stay tuned.
• 53:13
  We'll be staying tuned. It's like cockering that can
• 53:15
  sync to your Steam Machine. Totally fine.
• 53:22
  Anyways, haptic feedback. So we also had we also had the
• 53:27
  Steam frame. This is a very nice small form
• 53:31
  factor VR Google headset thing and it looks nice and it sure as
• 53:37
  fuck seems to be playing nice as well.
• 53:41
  You've done it again. This thing is wild.
• 53:44
  I, I don't have a ton to say about this just because I'm not
• 53:47
  AVR guy. I don't keep up on VR for the
• 53:49
  most part of what's going on in that that land.
• 53:52
  Just be quicker. I, I do think this looks really
• 53:56
  cool, what they're implementing here.
• 53:57
  The tech behind it is very incredible, but it it comes
• 54:04
  back. To what do you what do you buy
• 54:05
  this for? If you if if, if the if the
• 54:08
  price is right for you. So I'm I'm thinking this will be
• 54:10
  350. I, I think it has to be below,
• 54:15
  it has to be below 500. It has to I not for me
• 54:19
  personally. All right, like I, I have a
• 54:21
  quest to my kids are OK with that.
• 54:25
  We bought it right as the quest 3 was coming out type of thing.
• 54:28
  And it's like fuck, but I, I, I will not be buying this.
• 54:36
  I I can guarantee that this is not.
• 54:38
  Going even for the right price. No, no, I, I I'm VR also makes
• 54:43
  me nauseous. I can't do VR.
• 54:46
  I have tried. I can do things like beat Saber
• 54:50
  and shit where you're mostly stationary and moving like side
• 54:53
  to side. I tried playing bone labs.
• 54:58
  I thought I was going to die. It was bad.
• 55:01
  I, I genuinely thought I was, I, I thought I was going to run to
• 55:05
  the bathroom in puke. VR is not for me.
• 55:11
  I, I enjoy the tech. I enjoy what they're doing
• 55:14
  there. I think it's cool.
• 55:15
  I have hopped in occasionally here and there.
• 55:18
  I picked up that Wrath of the Gods or whatever it was.
• 55:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I picked that up.
• 55:27
  I have not played it and I fucking hate that I have not
• 55:30
  played it. But VR is just never the thing
• 55:34
  when at the end of my day I want to sit down and play something.
• 55:38
  I never am like hey I want to play VR right?
• 55:41
  I'm fucking tired. I want to sit at a in my nice
• 55:45
  comfy chair. I want to play a game on my PC
• 55:47
  and call it a date, or I'll sit on a couch and play my Switch,
• 55:52
  or, you know, sit on on our chase lounges and play fucking
• 55:56
  PlayStation or whatever it may be.
• 55:58
  I want to sit down, I want to relax.
• 56:00
  VR is just not my thing. I enjoy what they're doing with
• 56:04
  it. I really hope VR takes off at
• 56:06
  some point because it just seems like it has been in this weird
• 56:09
  stagnant space where you either. It reminds me almost of the
• 56:17
  cloud gaming type thing where it's like if you're into cloud
• 56:21
  gaming, you're really into it. If you're into VR, you're really
• 56:25
  into it. It seems like there's not a lot
• 56:27
  of space for in between. The PSVR 2 came out, it fucking
• 56:31
  sucked. There was nothing.
• 56:32
  For it flopped. It flopped so goddamn hard.
• 56:36
  I I think this will do better because obviously they have the
• 56:40
  Steam store behind it, so they have so many more options.
• 56:43
  I mean, you can use this just as a screen and sit there and play
• 56:47
  a game with this fucking thing on your head, right?
• 56:49
  So it has so much more options behind it.
• 56:54
  I think this will do well with people who are into VR.
• 56:58
  I am not I will and they are right, like especially because
• 57:02
  that's the biggest thing right now.
• 57:03
  Everybody is developing something for AR where it's
• 57:07
  like, oh, well, you can model your house and walk around your
• 57:10
  house and kill zombies or whatever it may be, which is
• 57:13
  it's cool, right? It's a it's a cool novelty.
• 57:16
  I feel like AR would probably make me less nauseous for sure,
• 57:22
  but this is this is not my thing by any means.
• 57:26
  I think it's really cool. I think the tech that is here is
• 57:28
  very awesome. But it cannot be $1000.
• 57:32
  It cannot be. It has.
• 57:33
  To be dead on arrival of a grand.
• 57:35
  It it has to be below $500 or right at and even that I think
• 57:40
  is I think at that point still I think the 404 fifty mark is
• 57:46
  going to be a lot better. I think it will perform better
• 57:49
  than anything we have in that price range currently.
• 57:54
  But it has to be cheap. It has cheap in the grand scheme
• 57:59
  of things, right like in in the current landscape we live in
• 58:02
  $500 is not cheap. But I think for this to ex to
• 58:10
  perform the way they want it to, it needs to be below that point.
• 58:15
  It absolutely does. And I think one of the coolest
• 58:18
  features it is toting, touting toting is that it is modular.
• 58:24
  So we have caught snippets that there are other like US, like
• 58:29
  extensions that are like right under the nose piece type thing.
• 58:32
  You could take the entire front Google off, leading me to
• 58:36
  believe that there's going to be other modules eventually down
• 58:39
  the road. That is interesting because that
• 58:42
  module that you pull off is a computer in and of itself, it's
• 58:47
  a computer. With that being said, this has a
• 58:50
  Snapdragon 8 Gen. 3 with ARM 64 as a processor, 16 gigabyte
• 58:57
  unified LPDDLP DDR5X RAM storage, either 256 gigabyte or
• 59:09
  one terabyte. This is for your headset.
• 59:12
  A more reasonable jump, which 512 is a lot for a headset.
• 59:17
  Those games are typically not very big.
• 59:21
  Nope. So this is pretty cool.
• 59:23
  The weight is 190 grams for the core module, 435g total with
• 59:29
  head strap and battery. The battery I've heard evens the
• 59:32
  whole thing out yeah, these these measurements could be
• 59:36
  wrong by the way, So if I'm wrong, please let me know the
• 59:41
  battery life. I think somewhere I've heard
• 59:43
  along the four hour mark to like the one hour mark that's.
• 59:47
  Flowing for VR? Exactly for.
• 59:50
  VR. This connects via Wi-Fi and
• 59:53
  Bluetooth. It's great there.
• 59:55
  This is wireless and the pass through is mono as compared to
• 1:00:00
  Quest 3's color pass through. From which people were saying
• 1:00:04
  well, that's a bit of a hit, but also other people are going no,
• 1:00:07
  this is very smart that they're doing it this way.
• 1:00:11
  It's a cool piece of tech. This is something if the price
• 1:00:13
  is right, I will get it. I do like to fuck around in VR
• 1:00:17
  and I think this would be fun again for my son and I do want
• 1:00:21
  to play the Deadpool game. I really, even though I think
• 1:00:24
  it's a quest three thing, but whatever it's cool.
• 1:00:28
  This is great. We all knew that the deckard was
• 1:00:30
  coming. Now we know that it's called the
• 1:00:31
  Steam Frame. And if you like VR, this is your
• 1:00:35
  this is your cup of tea. This is absolutely what you
• 1:00:37
  wanna get. Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Moving on to our last bit of hardware, and then we're gonna
• 1:00:43
  close up the show. The Steam Controller.
• 1:00:46
  It's their second time making a controller.
• 1:00:48
  The first controller ended up being sold for a buck with the
• 1:00:51
  Steam Link. That's how bad it did.
• 1:00:55
  But I will say this looks like someone took a Steam Deck, cut
• 1:00:59
  it in half and squished it together and now you have the
• 1:01:02
  Steam controller. I don't hate it.
• 1:01:04
  I it reminds me of Duke a little bit.
• 1:01:08
  I I'm never going to use those track pads.
• 1:01:11
  The rest of the controller is awesome in my opinion, but I'm
• 1:01:16
  going to be getting it. I know you would.
• 1:01:19
  Honestly. I actually told Amber the day
• 1:01:21
  this came out. So yesterday we were actually
• 1:01:25
  out for our anniversary. But I'm falling follow.
• 1:01:30
  Thank you. I was following her around a
• 1:01:32
  store staring at my phone reading about all of this as it
• 1:01:36
  was coming out. And I was like, man, I don't, I
• 1:01:40
  don't know about this. And was like showing her
• 1:01:43
  pictures like she gave a fuck. And I know she doesn't, but she
• 1:01:46
  she, she plays it well. Kelly I Amber.
• 1:01:49
  Yeah, but I was like, man, this seems like the kind of thing
• 1:01:54
  like, I'm going to wait for Nick to buy it because I know Nick is
• 1:01:58
  going to buy it. I'm going to try his and then I
• 1:02:02
  might pick it up because I to me this seems horribly
• 1:02:06
  uncomfortable. Also, I am not a fan of the
• 1:02:09
  track pads. I understand a lot of people
• 1:02:12
  never love them. I don't use them on the deck
• 1:02:15
  unless I have to, which has been very few and far between.
• 1:02:20
  Like a quick thing when I boot into desktop mode to do
• 1:02:25
  something in Linux. I hate using them.
• 1:02:27
  I I I don't care for it. Every time I go to click on
• 1:02:31
  something I end up fucking moving my cursor.
• 1:02:34
  I don't like it. To me I I know some people have
• 1:02:38
  found great use for these. They enjoy them.
• 1:02:41
  It is closer to that function of like a mouse.
• 1:02:45
  I don't like them, it's not my thing.
• 1:02:48
  I also don't like track pads on laptops.
• 1:02:50
  Like give me a fucking. That being said, I do know the
• 1:02:58
  quality of Steam's hardware. I I know this is going to be
• 1:03:04
  probably a fantastic controller. It doesn't look nearly as big as
• 1:03:09
  what it initially seems, especially when you see it by
• 1:03:12
  itself. There's a picture I'm looking at
• 1:03:15
  currently where there's actually someone holding this thing.
• 1:03:18
  It seems to be almost the same size as like an 8 bit DOE
• 1:03:22
  controller but with. Track.
• 1:03:24
  Track track pads on the bottom. Like it's not a a sizable
• 1:03:28
  controller by any means. Like probably a little bit
• 1:03:31
  smaller than even a Xbox controller.
• 1:03:34
  It just looks like a Duke. It's chunky, right?
• 1:03:40
  I don't love the symmetrical joysticks in the center of this
• 1:03:46
  thing. It seems weird.
• 1:03:47
  It seems like an ergonomical fucking nightmare, especially if
• 1:03:51
  the track pads are actually functioning.
• 1:03:53
  I feel like I would rest the the the fucking butt of my hand on
• 1:03:58
  it. Right.
• 1:03:59
  And accidentally. I'm disabling those.
• 1:04:01
  I'm disabling them immediately. I I wish they offered one that
• 1:04:07
  didn't have track. Yeah, right.
• 1:04:09
  Like give me, give me a Steam Controller that doesn't have
• 1:04:13
  track pads. I understand that's a whole
• 1:04:15
  nother skew. I understand it's a whole
• 1:04:19
  different thing. We get it, I don't.
• 1:04:21
  But but I, I, I feel like I you and I cannot be alone in this
• 1:04:27
  and believing like hey, I don't want the fucking track pads.
• 1:04:30
  Is, is there an option, is there an option to have a, a steam
• 1:04:35
  made controller, a valve made controller that is without this
• 1:04:42
  like something that I, I, I trust your hardware, I trust
• 1:04:46
  what you're doing here, but. I know this shit.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, like I, I, I know this is going to be a great controller,
• 1:04:53
  but it's not for me. And it's unfortunate because I
• 1:04:56
  really want to buy this. Like everything in my brain, the
• 1:04:59
  moment I saw it, I go, I hate that, but I want it.
• 1:05:03
  I'm getting it. I, I, I have.
• 1:05:05
  Let's see, for the audience, let me pull this boy out.
• 1:05:10
  It's it, it's unfortunate to me personally, Right?
• 1:05:14
  Like how many times have you used that?
• 1:05:18
  This is for show. Exactly I.
• 1:05:21
  But I did attempt to use this when I first got it and I hated
• 1:05:27
  every second of it. But you can see the humble
• 1:05:31
  beginnings here, right? Like this is pretty neat to see
• 1:05:34
  where we're at now. And even back then, these were
• 1:05:37
  track pads. Like this is the it's all.
• 1:05:39
  Track. So like I mean and their
• 1:05:43
  controller does. I think this fit nice as well in
• 1:05:46
  my hands. Like I just the buttons down
• 1:05:50
  here really pissed me off, but this is cool.
• 1:05:52
  This is cool. Yeah, but you're spot on with
• 1:05:55
  your take on they essentially cut a Steam Deck in half and
• 1:05:59
  fucking smash that together and then slightly skewed, slightly
• 1:06:03
  skewed the track pads a little bit.
• 1:06:05
  I will say the track pads don't like cause me any grief
• 1:06:08
  necessarily on the Steam Deck. Yeah, but I also would be
• 1:06:13
  perfectly OK if they weren't there.
• 1:06:15
  Yeah, I would be too. If if I have to plug a fucking
• 1:06:19
  USB hub into it and get a mouse and everything like that's my go
• 1:06:22
  to if I have to do quite a few things in the in the desktop
• 1:06:26
  mode anyway, I would prefer that.
• 1:06:29
  I fuck man, I don't know this this controller seems really
• 1:06:34
  cool and I'm sure people are going to fucking love it.
• 1:06:37
  Especially like, yeah, and I probably will too.
• 1:06:42
  And then I'm going to be like, this fucking thing is going to
• 1:06:45
  sit here and gather dust because I just don't like the ergonomics
• 1:06:49
  of it. But God damn it, like it's kind
• 1:06:53
  of cool. That's the beauty behind a lot
• 1:06:58
  of this is like you look at something like this you're like,
• 1:07:00
  I don't know if I'm going to like it and then you get it and
• 1:07:02
  you're I guarantee every neurons going to go Yep that's cool
• 1:07:06
  minus this one these two features.
• 1:07:08
  But a lot of this is I should mention really quick because
• 1:07:12
  we're at a cap off here in a minute, but like after we some
• 1:07:15
  facts and wrap up conversation. But the steam frame is connected
• 1:07:20
  with a dongle by the way Yeah this thing just you plug it in
• 1:07:24
  you plug the dongle in you got VR.
• 1:07:27
  That's incredible yeah. So I.
• 1:07:30
  Assume it's probably using like 2.4 right?
• 1:07:34
  I believe so. What the?
• 1:07:35
  Dongle's actually using. I mean that would be my guess
• 1:07:37
  based on how most of that kind of shit works.
• 1:07:40
  I mean this is 2.4 like. This is 2 point 2.4 on valves,
• 1:07:50
  the included plug and play 6 Hertz, 6 gigahertz wireless
• 1:07:54
  adapter. OK.
• 1:07:57
  Provides A dedicated link for both VR and non VR streaming.
• 1:08:02
  Steam frames. Dual radios make this connection
• 1:08:05
  even more stable. One radio is dedicated to
• 1:08:07
  streaming the audio and visuals and the other connects to your
• 1:08:11
  Wi-Fi. 2 dedicated links. No competition with for
• 1:08:14
  bandwidth. That's awesome.
• 1:08:17
  Like that. That's just fucking.
• 1:08:20
  It's fantastic. I.
• 1:08:22
  It's so good. Like I.
• 1:08:23
  You got me in a box, man. Yeah, you got me in a fucking
• 1:08:26
  box. I'm still not going to buy it,
• 1:08:28
  but I it's fucking cool. This is great with the.
• 1:08:31
  Controller though, yeah, the puck.
• 1:08:36
  Did you see the puck? I don't know if I did see the
• 1:08:39
  puck. I I again, I was walking around
• 1:08:42
  Ulta at the time I was looking at this, following around my
• 1:08:45
  wife looking for her feet as I was staring at my phone like a
• 1:08:50
  good husband on his anniversary. God damn right.
• 1:08:54
  So the pluck the puck got the pluck the puck is a So this is
• 1:09:00
  from valve plug and play with the Steam Deck controller 1 puck
• 1:09:04
  2 jobs. It's a wireless transmitter that
• 1:09:06
  provides a fast, stable connection for your Steam
• 1:09:09
  Controller. It's also a charging station,
• 1:09:12
  connecting to your controller magnetically with a satisfying
• 1:09:15
  click. Prefer using Bluetooth or USB.
• 1:09:18
  Steam Controller support supports those two.
• 1:09:21
  That's and it comes with the controller.
• 1:09:23
  It's being sold with the controller.
• 1:09:26
  That's that's really good, but the problem is that's gonna
• 1:09:30
  drive this cost to like 120 bucks.
• 1:09:34
  I'm thinking around the 80 to $100.
• 1:09:38
  With the puck, I bet it it's gonna clear 100 for sure.
• 1:09:43
  There's no way. Buying it so.
• 1:09:45
  I know you. Some Key Features Some Key
• 1:09:48
  Features Next generation magnetic thumbsticks High
• 1:09:52
  definition rumble Steam Controllers Powerful motors are
• 1:09:55
  capable of handling complex waveforms for immersive,
• 1:09:58
  accurate haptics. The sex game community is about
• 1:10:05
  to have a great time. Fuck yeah you're right.
• 1:10:12
  I feel like if you buy the steam machine this is a fucking no
• 1:10:16
  brainer. Especially with with the option
• 1:10:20
  to boot into Linux having the track pads here it saves you
• 1:10:24
  having to have a mouse and a keyboard or something of that
• 1:10:27
  nature. Like I feel like this is a
• 1:10:29
  absolute no brainer if you get the the steam machine.
• 1:10:34
  If you are not getting the steam machine and you were going to
• 1:10:37
  use this on your PC it's still a a probably a damn good
• 1:10:42
  controller. That being said, my taste over
• 1:10:46
  the years has always been the asymmetrical Xbox controller
• 1:10:51
  Like this. This is my fucking go to 100% of
• 1:10:55
  the time. Yeah, like even if Xbox goes
• 1:11:00
  under, I hope they keep selling controllers because yes, I have
• 1:11:04
  never been able to find a controller that feels as good to
• 1:11:07
  me personally. Always fit great in my end.
• 1:11:10
  I, I, I played through the, the, the fucking Duke and I, I, I had
• 1:11:17
  yeah, yeah, it had its place, right?
• 1:11:20
  But like the, the 360 controller was always good to me and I, I
• 1:11:24
  was like, how do you they ever expand upon this?
• 1:11:26
  And then they did the, the the Xbox One version of it.
• 1:11:30
  I was like, yeah, this is my go to.
• 1:11:32
  And then they did the Series X and I, I, I'm sorry, I don't
• 1:11:37
  know how you ever beat this controller in my mind, if you
• 1:11:39
  were a PlayStation kid, I understand you like the
• 1:11:41
  symmetrical sticks, you're a psycho, whatever.
• 1:11:45
  But this is by far in a way my favorite controller and it
• 1:11:49
  always will be Like I, I don't know how you beat this at this
• 1:11:53
  point. It's a perfect form factor for
• 1:11:54
  me. Everything about it is great in
• 1:11:57
  my mind. If anything, the connectivity is
• 1:12:01
  a little rocky at best. Yeah.
• 1:12:03
  So that is kind of why I would look at something like this,
• 1:12:06
  this Steam Controller, as being something that makes sense
• 1:12:10
  because it is going to function almost perfectly with whatever
• 1:12:15
  you want to use it with almost perfectly.
• 1:12:17
  And you can plug and play that shit, right?
• 1:12:19
  Like you can grab the dongle, plug it into whatever you want
• 1:12:22
  to use it on, and you're done. Like.
• 1:12:25
  When you're done playing, you just plug it into the puck.
• 1:12:28
  Which is. Have you heard?
• 1:12:29
  Have you heard the clicks yet? Have you heard the clicks?
• 1:12:32
  No, I didn't even know the video thing.
• 1:12:35
  I'll show you the video after this it also but that's not all
• 1:12:38
  because they also have grip enabled gyro.
• 1:12:42
  We're calling it Gripsense and it's a new input for Steam
• 1:12:45
  Controller that enables gyro with.
• 1:12:48
  I'm surprised they got to it before before pornhub did touch.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, I know. Hold, hold and Release to enable
• 1:12:55
  and disable gyro aiming. That's great.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah. You can also map it like any
• 1:13:01
  other button. Which is fucking cool.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah, God damn it, this is a cool controller.
• 1:13:07
  It's really. Cool control steam button, quick
• 1:13:11
  access, customizable for steam inputs.
• 1:13:16
  Controller plays well wherever steam is, so however it just it
• 1:13:22
  just connects so the. Crazy thing about all of this to
• 1:13:27
  me, the so obviously the Steam Machine we talked a lot about,
• 1:13:32
  right? And I don't necessarily want to
• 1:13:34
  go all the way back to that, but I am going to a little bit.
• 1:13:38
  They beat Xbox to the punch. Big time, And Phil Spencer
• 1:13:43
  tweeted. I was like, yay, Steve, thank
• 1:13:46
  you. But I went deep down, he's going
• 1:13:49
  fuck. Like the the the way they have
• 1:13:53
  been talking about this next Xbox, everyone has been
• 1:13:55
  speculating that it is. Just going to be.
• 1:13:58
  It was either going to be a Steam machine or it was going to
• 1:14:02
  be a mid tier PC and an Xbox form factor of some sort, right?
• 1:14:08
  I think they would blow it too by selling it for way too much.
• 1:14:11
  Absolutely, absolutely. Like when you cross that
• 1:14:16
  threshold of being able to build a proper PC for the same price
• 1:14:21
  or less with better specs, you're fucked.
• 1:14:24
  I understand like console gaming is its own thing but that is
• 1:14:28
  kind of going by the wayside. Like I feel like a lot more
• 1:14:32
  people are switching over to PC and maybe PlayStation to play
• 1:14:36
  some some very specific. Party.
• 1:14:40
  And yeah, or yeah, first party games or, you know, maybe even
• 1:14:44
  adding a Switch into the equation or replace PlayStation
• 1:14:47
  with Switch, whatever it may be, right?
• 1:14:49
  But I feel like a lot more people are starting to trend
• 1:14:52
  towards PC. And I feel like Xbox knew that.
• 1:14:56
  And they've also, you know, kind of butchered everything they've
• 1:14:59
  done for the last decade. I think that Xbox was going to
• 1:15:07
  do APC, and I think they still will.
• 1:15:10
  But the problem is now you have Valve.
• 1:15:12
  Valve enters into this equation and goes, yeah, you know, I
• 1:15:17
  understand you have a storefront on PC, but fucking plop their
• 1:15:21
  gigantic horse cock onto the table and go, yeah, that's cool,
• 1:15:26
  dude. And then I imagine they're going
• 1:15:30
  to release another version of this that is better, bigger,
• 1:15:34
  more powerful, and it keeps up with a mid tier PC and is going
• 1:15:41
  to be able to do everything that the consoles do and more.
• 1:15:45
  And they're going to be like, yeah, this one's going to be
• 1:15:48
  more expensive. It's going to be 1200, fifteen,
• 1:15:50
  $100, but it's a console and APC in one, and it can do more.
• 1:15:57
  Play Half Life 3 on it. And you play Half Life 3 on it.
• 1:16:00
  Like it's not going to be right away, but I bet three years down
• 1:16:03
  the road we get that version of this.
• 1:16:06
  And Steam has now gathered all of all of the people who are
• 1:16:10
  console fanboys. And they said, hey, you guys
• 1:16:13
  were fighting over Xbox or PlayStation.
• 1:16:15
  They're like, I'll do you one. Try this, try Steam.
• 1:16:19
  People switch over to Steam. They enjoy it.
• 1:16:22
  But yeah, eventually they're like, yeah, the power is not
• 1:16:24
  great. Like, I'd like a little bit
• 1:16:26
  more. And they go, I got you, Boo.
• 1:16:29
  I got you, Boo. And they're like Xbox or
• 1:16:32
  Microsoft too, like or Microsoft or PlayStation who, what are we?
• 1:16:36
  What are we doing here? Like.
• 1:16:38
  And they'll always be playing, playing catch up.
• 1:16:40
  They'll always be playing catch up.
• 1:16:42
  Now that they are entering into the landscape of being able to
• 1:16:45
  be played on your TV at home, everyone should.
• 1:16:51
  Every console except for Nintendo.
• 1:16:52
  Because they're fucking. They don't care.
• 1:16:54
  They're. Doing they don't think they
• 1:16:56
  don't give up on. The back of the classroom.
• 1:16:57
  We've talked about it many a times.
• 1:16:58
  They're in the sandbox, in the corner by themselves, fucking.
• 1:17:02
  They're doing their own thing. They're going to be a OK.
• 1:17:04
  This released and Nintendo went. That's neat.
• 1:17:08
  That's. Cool anyways.
• 1:17:10
  Back to work. Cool, but PlayStation and Xbox
• 1:17:14
  should be worried. PlayStation, the only thing they
• 1:17:18
  have had for so long is their first party games.
• 1:17:22
  How long is that going to last? How many people?
• 1:17:25
  Not longer because they're on X or on PC.
• 1:17:28
  Yeah, it takes a lot of a Steam machine.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah, it takes a little bit for them to get there, but they're
• 1:17:35
  going to. I would assume they're going to
• 1:17:37
  start getting a little bit more frequent with that.
• 1:17:40
  Our two major console developers are going to start getting their
• 1:17:43
  shit out other places because software is where they make
• 1:17:46
  their money and out their fucking hardware.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah, they don't want to pay the 30% to Steam, but what are you
• 1:17:54
  going to do? I honestly I, I I don't see a
• 1:18:00
  world where if Steam continues this and puts out better
• 1:18:04
  versions of this or releases their OS where you can put it on
• 1:18:09
  to things more. Easily, they're thinking it's
• 1:18:12
  happening. Yeah, which is been a rumor for
• 1:18:15
  a while, which I don't understand why they wouldn't
• 1:18:17
  right the moment that happens. Oh fuck.
• 1:18:23
  Like I honestly just with this announcement alone if it is
• 1:18:26
  slightly underpowered compared to an Xbox or a PlayStation
• 1:18:30
  five. Oh fuck, and if I'm Sony and
• 1:18:34
  I've released like 5 first party games this year or sorry not
• 1:18:40
  even this year over the last four years.
• 1:18:42
  Oh fuck. Are you telling me that Gabe
• 1:18:45
  Newell and his team have just been going?
• 1:18:47
  You want to do that thing? That's what happens at how they
• 1:18:52
  go. You know, that thing we tried.
• 1:18:55
  Let's like, do that and they go, yeah, we'll, yeah, we'll
• 1:18:58
  prototype it. If it it's cool, we'll release
• 1:19:01
  it. And then they went, all right,
• 1:19:03
  yeah, let's get some testers here because last a month and a
• 1:19:06
  half ago, remember I said there was all those testers going to
• 1:19:08
  Valve and everyone's like, no, they aren't.
• 1:19:09
  Yes, they were. So you're telling me that while
• 1:19:13
  the council war was going on and it ended quote UN quote, Valve
• 1:19:18
  would Yeah, but we win anyways. And Sony and Microsoft, What do
• 1:19:23
  you mean? And they went, well, we win and
• 1:19:25
  they go, what do you mean you win?
• 1:19:27
  Valve goes, Oh yeah, here's our stuff.
• 1:19:29
  And they went fuck, they're going God damn it.
• 1:19:35
  When the best first party game you released was either Astrobot
• 1:19:39
  or Ratchet, Clank or Ratchet and Clank.
• 1:19:42
  And Xbox has been floundering almost Ubisoft style for the
• 1:19:47
  last four or five years, 10 years, actually.
• 1:19:52
  Yeah. And Valve can literally just
• 1:19:54
  swoop in, be like, yeah, we're going to release like a low
• 1:19:56
  level PC for like, I don't know, $500?
• 1:20:00
  You can buy into the Steam ecosystem.
• 1:20:02
  It works with this really cool fucking VR headset we put out.
• 1:20:06
  We're also releasing a really badass controller, by the way.
• 1:20:09
  In a couple years, we're probably going to update this
• 1:20:12
  and it's going to be a little bit bigger.
• 1:20:13
  Like I understand 6 by 6 is really convenient, but what if
• 1:20:16
  we want like, I don't know, 10 by 10?
• 1:20:19
  And now we can put this gigantic fucking specialty GPU in this
• 1:20:25
  and more RAM when the price of RAM finally drops, because it's
• 1:20:29
  insane right now. But also they're like, yeah,
• 1:20:32
  we're going to sell that at a little bit of a of a.
• 1:20:34
  Did we mention Half Life 3 finally out?
• 1:20:36
  You played here, by the way, and they're just fucking.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, yeah, dude, you could. Gordon's Adventure right there.
• 1:20:46
  You could do that. Oh, you want to play it in AR?
• 1:20:50
  Yeah, just buy this. And then you could sit in your
• 1:20:52
  chair with the Steam Controller. Valve it is crazy man it's like
• 1:21:01
  they're so stressful. This was the most big Dick
• 1:21:04
  fucking move to just announce it out of nowhere.
• 1:21:08
  GTA gets delayed and if they do half life next.
• 1:21:11
  Week. If they do Half Life next week
• 1:21:15
  after all of this and GTA was delayed and Half Life's going to
• 1:21:19
  release early next year, that's bad for everybody.
• 1:21:25
  I I, I I. Good for us.
• 1:21:28
  I'm I'm not, I'm still very much of the camp.
• 1:21:31
  I don't know if it's going to happen.
• 1:21:33
  I I do think there will be something half life related
• 1:21:37
  around launch. I don't know if it'll be half
• 1:21:39
  life 3. I think it could be like a half
• 1:21:41
  life Alex type of thing, right? Not necessarily VR, but like I
• 1:21:47
  some sort of experience in the Half Life universe.
• 1:21:50
  So they did say they are not working on AVR title.
• 1:21:53
  Yeah, I don't think they'll. Specify that.
• 1:21:55
  I, I, I think this will absolutely be something that can
• 1:21:58
  be played on the Steam Machine, right?
• 1:22:01
  I, I don't know if it'll be Half Life 3 again.
• 1:22:05
  I think that is just in such a weird spot at this point that
• 1:22:08
  it's like, what the fuck do you do?
• 1:22:10
  This game has to be perfect, has to be perfect.
• 1:22:14
  And that's a very difficult thing to do.
• 1:22:17
  They're teaming up so good with this though.
• 1:22:19
  They. They are.
• 1:22:20
  They absolutely are. I I fully expect something
• 1:22:23
  something Half Life related to come out alongside this.
• 1:22:27
  I fully expect a announcement before the end of the year.
• 1:22:30
  Yes. Something.
• 1:22:32
  But my God, Valve, Steam, however you want to look at it,
• 1:22:37
  just what the fuck, man? They they.
• 1:22:41
  This is huge. They potentially blew up
• 1:22:44
  everything going on in the industry in a blog post.
• 1:22:49
  Not even a Twitter post. A Twitter fucking post.
• 1:22:52
  Yeah, like meanwhile, Nintendo is having a full Nintendo Direct
• 1:22:58
  for the next Super Mario movie. Steam just goes.
• 1:23:04
  It'll get where it needs to go. And Early 20 Q 1/20/26.
• 1:23:09
  Yeah, it it's already ready to go.
• 1:23:11
  They already have most of their they have most of their stocks
• 1:23:15
  sitting in a warehouse currently.
• 1:23:17
  This shit has been moving for fucking years and years and
• 1:23:21
  years. They have been receiving shit
• 1:23:23
  probably since like March and it's been sitting in a fucking
• 1:23:28
  warehouse and they're going just watching everybody else fucking
• 1:23:33
  do their thing again. Nintendo's the weird kid in the
• 1:23:36
  corner, but fucking putting that shit out there doing crazy
• 1:23:41
  things. PlayStation 5 is the fastest
• 1:23:44
  selling console of all time right now, and Steam goes.
• 1:23:48
  We'll see. That's cool.
• 1:23:50
  Yeah, well, all right. Yeah, check this out.
• 1:23:52
  I have no use for this thing and I'm still like but what if I
• 1:23:56
  replace my Xbox with it? This is going to be a
• 1:24:00
  centerpiece for me, dude. And the little Ellie, by the
• 1:24:02
  way, we're going to end this here.
• 1:24:03
  But the LED, it's customizable. Or you can just turn it off.
• 1:24:08
  They said if you don't like it, just turn it off, OK?
• 1:24:11
  OK, the thing I love so much about Valve is they do think
• 1:24:15
  about everything when designing a piece of hardware.
• 1:24:19
  What's meticulous? It, it is very meticulous the
• 1:24:23
  the fact that it has Bluetooth and you know, the this
• 1:24:27
  controller having three different ways that you can
• 1:24:29
  connect it to something is crazy.
• 1:24:32
  The the, the, the actual Steam Machine itself of being having
• 1:24:39
  display port and HDMI in such a small form factor is crazy.
• 1:24:44
  Having the, the, the, the new Steam frame and having multiple
• 1:24:51
  ways you can technically play that.
• 1:24:53
  Like they think of everything when they design this hardware
• 1:24:57
  and they do it so it so exceptionally well that it's
• 1:25:00
  just staggering that anybody else is even remotely able to
• 1:25:04
  compete. I mean, even looking at this
• 1:25:07
  controller, as much as I hate it, I know it's going to be a
• 1:25:11
  great fucking controller. Like having the bass come with
• 1:25:16
  the controller that you can charge it on and it also serves
• 1:25:20
  as the dongle for this fucking thing is such a good idea.
• 1:25:24
  It's such a good idea. It has no reason to be this well
• 1:25:29
  thought out. And yet Valve was like, hey, how
• 1:25:33
  do we make the potentially the best controller that has come
• 1:25:37
  out in the last fucking 20 years?
• 1:25:39
  And I say that as, again, somebody who loves the Xbox
• 1:25:43
  controller, how do we make it better?
• 1:25:48
  And they're and you don't have to buy batteries for it and you
• 1:25:50
  don't have to buy anything like the dongle comes with it.
• 1:25:54
  Everything is included like how do we make this better?
• 1:25:58
  How do we make this work with everything they could possibly
• 1:26:01
  want? How do we make it switch Florida
• 1:26:03
  State between machine to machine?
• 1:26:06
  Oh, that's how you do it. OK, let's do that.
• 1:26:08
  Yeah, let's do that. Like I there, Steam gets a lot
• 1:26:14
  of credit for a lot of things, Valve gets a lot of credit for a
• 1:26:17
  lot of things. But I don't think a lot of
• 1:26:18
  people put as much thought into how well designed all of their
• 1:26:23
  hardware is, how well it works with everything you could
• 1:26:27
  possibly want. It is.
• 1:26:30
  It is very impressive, very impressive.
• 1:26:33
  And honestly, like they don't get enough credit for that side
• 1:26:38
  of things. Yeah, this is this is monumental
• 1:26:42
  in my opinion. It really is.
• 1:26:44
  This is huge for everybody in the gaming universe.
• 1:26:47
  It really is. And I say that because this is a
• 1:26:50
  all of this is great entry point for everybody.
• 1:26:53
  This is PC gaming now for everybody.
• 1:26:56
  Welcome to Steam, welcome to PC gaming.
• 1:27:00
  Dip your toe in. This is going to be an awesome
• 1:27:02
  ride with Valve and I cannot wait to see you.
• 1:27:06
  Tell me we got the Index Half life Alex the fucking we we we.
• 1:27:14
  They just let everyone into deadlock.
• 1:27:16
  Counter Strike two Steam Machine frame and the new controller.
• 1:27:23
  Gabe must really want to buy a new yacht.
• 1:27:27
  Two Half Life documentaries, maybe 2 something.
• 1:27:29
  They like 2 half Life documentaries.
• 1:27:32
  They don't celebrate things. This is all this is.
• 1:27:35
  This is, this is a new Valve with a young team led by old
• 1:27:39
  Valve employees who want to see the shit happen.
• 1:27:46
  I am so exceptionally proud to be AI.
• 1:27:49
  Know I'm a fanboy, but this is a proud moment.
• 1:27:52
  This is awesome. And that's where we're going to
• 1:27:55
  cap this off until next week where they announce Half Life 3.
• 1:27:58
  All right, everybody, If that happens, my head will explode.
• 1:28:03
  I'll be insufferable. I know I will not be around.
• 1:28:08
  I have to at least stay away for like a month I think probably
• 1:28:12
  longer. I I feel like I have to stay
• 1:28:15
  away for at least like 6 to 12 months after it comes out.
• 1:28:20
  I'll be the biggest piece of shit to everybody.
• 1:28:22
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