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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan BYU FB, Retaining top end talent, No one going to Michigan (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: My father taught me many things here.
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  Speaker 2: Jaron, welcome, How are you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't doubt, I would be absolutely that's how they
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  Speaker 1: roll down there.
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  Speaker 3: So how has BYU kept their important players out of
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal. They're conspicuously absent in this wild West
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  Speaker 3: sweepstakes of player acquisition and of course roster management. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's been wildly quiet in Provo after a really good season.
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  Speaker 1: A very ute or trim angle there to question why
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  Speaker 1: there's good retention, Uh, we see We see it as
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  Speaker 1: people want to be here. Man. They love Kilani, they
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  Speaker 1: love the school. The anils competitive. You know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these guys are taken at like we act like
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  Speaker 1: Boi's money bags on me. It's no Texas Tech. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Smith Noden's getting offered way more at other places, like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's not always about
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  Speaker 1: the money. Although for the men's basketball team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's you got to be competitive to get an aj
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  Speaker 1: in a row. But like Richie was, I guarantee was
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  Speaker 1: offered more to other schools. One of this b a
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  Speaker 1: B y u H. Yet you have to be competitive.
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  Speaker 1: I realized that. But it is incredible. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the answer, dude, because the fact that not a single
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  Speaker 1: major contributor or starter has left is unbelievable. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Like not a single dude until today or yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: Max Alfred went to Michigan. That's it. One of the
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  Speaker 1: backup linebackers, Glasger didn't go follows House south to Wala,
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  Speaker 1: didn't go Keon Towne Waston didn't go. It's it's wild,
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  Speaker 1: and I expect Boid to run it back and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: be in the Big twelve title game. And let's let's
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  Speaker 1: see if Boi can't can't win it this time. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy, man.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's as much as a ute fan
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like to hear this if they're listening right now,
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  Speaker 3: and as much as the ute in me doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: love to say it, like, if you're doing this now,
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  Speaker 3: your answer has to be the correct one. It people
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  Speaker 3: want to be here. Yes, they're being fairly compensated. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: Byu has done a really good job in that effort.
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  Speaker 3: But even if you have checked those boxes and you
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  Speaker 3: know the relationships with coaches are not ideal, or you
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  Speaker 3: don't like the team culture or the communication about how
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  Speaker 3: much playing time you're going to get or what your
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  Speaker 3: role on the team is going to be, there's a
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  Speaker 3: million things that have sent three thousand plus players into
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal that are not apparently factors at BYU
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  Speaker 3: right now. And I think that Kilani and his staff
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  Speaker 3: deserve a lot of credit for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. It really speaks to who Klanie is
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  Speaker 1: and what his staff is and the fact that honestly,
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  Speaker 1: like you only lost Gennaro Guildford with Jay you know,
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  Speaker 1: Gary Anderson wanted to stay, Chad wanted to stay. You
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  Speaker 1: bring in Tomorrow Warren, which is a really nice ad
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years of boy stayed you know,
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  Speaker 1: Southern News ad coach before that, Like he's coaching the
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  Speaker 1: corners and passing game, defensive coordinator that way, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: great by You added some real beef in the portal. Kate,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, might be in the modern era of
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  Speaker 1: this portal, the best transfer Like proven guy you always
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  Speaker 1: ever gotten this all acc guy, guy that's got NFL potential.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the highest rated pass rushing linebackers in
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  Speaker 1: Power for He's number two from PFF. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: was a massive ad. You replace Jack Kelly with someone
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  Speaker 1: who's as good or perhaps better, And that's crazy to
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  Speaker 1: say and so I'm I'm stoked man BYU doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: to add a ton out of the portal incredible continuity
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  Speaker 1: and retention. They can be very selective in who they add,
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  Speaker 1: and I really like who they've added so far, and
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  Speaker 1: they're not done.
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  Speaker 3: So we started the show today with a conversation about
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  Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the decision around around Mike Tomlin
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  Speaker 3: and whether or not good is the enemy of great
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  Speaker 3: at some point, and the breaking news is that he's
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  Speaker 3: leaving the Steelers after nineteen seasons and these since twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 3: you probably get this sense that well, his goodness, his
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  Speaker 3: very very goodness, has become somehow an obstacle to them
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  Speaker 3: achieving more, because why haven't they won a playoff game
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  Speaker 3: in that long And like, you can certainly apply this
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  Speaker 3: to the transition of power at the University of Utah
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  Speaker 3: football program, and you can always apply it to the
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  Speaker 3: touch as in several different eras. I'm curious if BYU fans,
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  Speaker 3: if you, as a BYU inside or someone who works
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  Speaker 3: very closely with this school and this team, looked at
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  Speaker 3: anything that they had on the roster this year and said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that is maybe not the roster, just anything around the
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  Speaker 3: team said that good is the enemy of great good, Right,
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  Speaker 3: there might be the thing that keeps us from getting
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  Speaker 3: over the hump against Texas Tech, because it's also very possible,
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  Speaker 3: and I'd probably lean more this direction where it's just
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech is that good and Texas Tech was the problem,
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  Speaker 3: not anything that was going on internally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think Texas like I tipped the cap completely.
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  Speaker 1: Self awareness is something that I try to be good
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  Speaker 1: at because I hate when people are fake or don't
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge the reality of a situation. Texas Tech was way
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  Speaker 1: better than BYU. Like that played out. They were plus
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  Speaker 1: seven in margin. BOI didn't get a takeaway That wasn't
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  Speaker 1: how BYU won games all year and you know Bear's
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  Speaker 1: ankle didn't help and LJ shoulder blah blah blah, Texas
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  Speaker 1: Tech was awesome. BYU has to recruit to be their
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  Speaker 1: best selves, but also, how are you going to beat
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech? For boy men's basketball, they brought to Nard
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  Speaker 1: Davison and others because they said, how do we beat Houston?
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  Speaker 1: Houston's the best team the league. How do we beat Houston?
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  Speaker 1: They specifically got a few guys that they felt would
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  Speaker 1: help them match up better. And now Houston's the third
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  Speaker 1: or fourth best team in the league, which is crazy. Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: Iowa State, Houston, bo text Tech. There's your top five.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy longer more athletic for BUA football. They have
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  Speaker 1: a good old line, they have a good run game.
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  Speaker 1: What they are missing is a little more explosive down
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  Speaker 1: the field in the past game, I think. And then defensively,
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  Speaker 1: you just got to be able to you got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to stop the run a little better and
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  Speaker 1: so and get some takeaways. So you target those things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're boys. It's unique. The thing that So back to
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  Speaker 1: your question of what's just good, I don't know, because
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  Speaker 1: I think bu A continues to build and they're very
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  Speaker 1: good and they're on the verge of grade. BUA was
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  Speaker 1: almost great this year. You know they if they beat
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  Speaker 1: text Tech in one of those two games, they're in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then who knows what happens. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 1: Miami and you get hot and you never know. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that BA has something that's holding them back.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all like green lights and up arrows.
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  Speaker 2: Right now.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the old line has been reinforced. Can they be
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  Speaker 1: be better on the edge in terms of brushing the quarterback? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Do I think they have one of the best linebacker
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  Speaker 1: trios in America. Yes, coming back, you bring back Evan
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  Speaker 1: Johnson and Trey Alexander follow tell soth Tawalla is a
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  Speaker 1: future NFL guy of Raiders to moneyback. I think defensively,
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  Speaker 1: the system and the people that have run out for
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  Speaker 1: the most part of their it's really can you do
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  Speaker 1: it again? And can you be a little more explosive
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  Speaker 1: in the past game? And Bear's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: year older. I have no reason to think BYU won't
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  Speaker 1: be at least ten and two in the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: given who they have come back now. Injuries play a
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  Speaker 1: factor of situations, play a factor weather and moments, and
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  Speaker 1: you got to be clutch and lucky and healthy and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Don't get me wrong, But like YU
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  Speaker 1: feels super confident, they can, as they've said on many
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  Speaker 1: social media posts, run it back.
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  Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan is.
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  Speaker 3: Our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show for a
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  Speaker 3: Little Red and Blue, focusing on the Koogs down South.
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  Speaker 3: For this segment, there's plenty of time left to answer
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  Speaker 3: this question, I suppose, and there's three days left in
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal, Well, they could, I guess address it.
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  Speaker 3: But Chase Roberts his year wasn't as spectacular as a
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  Speaker 3: lot of us expected his year to be, but he's
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  Speaker 3: still a really, really tough guy to replace. Is there
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  Speaker 3: somebody on this roster already that you're like, well, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's the next body at that position.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of what he is as a six toot
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  Speaker 1: four two ten guy that can go up and grab
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  Speaker 1: the ball. They don't have that guy per se, although
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  Speaker 1: they like, you know, the Oregon transfer Kyler Kasper at
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  Speaker 1: six six to twelve, pretty unproven, only had like seven
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  Speaker 1: catches in four years there, but they feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: he can come in and he's not going to replace
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  Speaker 1: Chase for sure. I think you just asked Parker to
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  Speaker 1: do a little more, and then you have you ask
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  Speaker 1: Jojo Phillips to do a little more. Can Cody Hagen
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  Speaker 1: get more involved in the past game. Can Walker Lyons
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  Speaker 1: as a tight end kind of replace Carson Ryan there? Frankly,
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  Speaker 1: if LJ and this O line can run at the
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  Speaker 1: same sort of clip and Barre can even be even
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  Speaker 1: better in that space and you can have a tight end,
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  Speaker 1: then then you can get open because by is bread
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  Speaker 1: and butter, and the explosiveness of the past game is
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  Speaker 1: built on play action, very kind of what you've seen
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  Speaker 1: from Sean McVay and and the La Rams, and like
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  Speaker 1: how do they get down the field. They don't just
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  Speaker 1: straight drop back a ton. You're trying to get some
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  Speaker 1: window dressing, and by you successfully did that. For the
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  Speaker 1: most part, I think I think Parker Kingston can take
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  Speaker 1: the next step and kind of be a first seam
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  Speaker 1: All Conference kind of guy. And we saw it a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of times this year. I think he's ready for
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  Speaker 1: the next step.
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  Speaker 3: What was it like watching Keel and Marrion go off
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  Speaker 3: for Miami in that semi final game?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't as painful as I thought because I'm happy for him,
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  Speaker 1: Like knowing that he was going to get I think
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  Speaker 1: about double in nil is like easier pill to swallow,
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  Speaker 1: Like the dudes, the dudes could win a Natty. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: super happy for him. What a playmaker. Darius last There
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  Speaker 1: is a fellow receiver from last year's team twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: that is he was actually at the game, probably from
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  Speaker 1: a ticket from Kilan hanging out, which is great. Keelan's good, dude,
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  Speaker 1: super happy for him, a kid that was a Yukon,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to BYU to Miami and playing for Natty,
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  Speaker 1: So less sort of jealousy and anger and more like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, that's great, Good for you man.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the reason I asked that question is because
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  Speaker 3: I think it's something we have to as football fans
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  Speaker 3: in this era of college sports especially, you have to
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  Speaker 3: be prepared to, you know, root for guys after they
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  Speaker 3: move on if they did something good for your franchise,
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  Speaker 3: for your team. I don't think there's anything wrong with
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  Speaker 3: wishing them well at the next spot. I know that's
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  Speaker 3: challenging right now, especially for a lot of Utah fans.
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  Speaker 3: It's very, very raw, but it's something that even if
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  Speaker 3: there's not a coaching transition and a bunch of coaches
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  Speaker 3: have to leave and the transfer portal kills you whatever,
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  Speaker 3: it's just something that I don't know. When I was
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  Speaker 3: I was a fan of Jerry Rice growing up as
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  Speaker 3: a San Francisco forty nine er, right, And it's not
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  Speaker 3: like I hated Jerry Rice when he became a Raider.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want him to be as good. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: leave that one out. But or or for when he
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  Speaker 3: tried out for the Broncos and got cut. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't it was an ignominia scent to a glorious career.
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  Speaker 3: But it's something It's something that we should already be
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  Speaker 3: used to, but we're not. And now that free agency
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  Speaker 3: is what it is in college sports, it's just something
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  Speaker 3: that I think I need to be better at. I
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  Speaker 3: think that there there's got to be tools to be
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  Speaker 3: better at it. When you see a Kiel and Mary
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  Speaker 3: and I was watching that game, I'm just like, man,
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  Speaker 3: like that that might hurt.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a BYU fan.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was like, but why, because this is
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  Speaker 3: a dude that, yeah, he could have.
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  Speaker 2: Done some nice things for your team.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he was the difference between you beating
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech or not. And now this is somebody who,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, gets to compete for a national championship,
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  Speaker 3: gets to be prominently featured on that team, and like
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  Speaker 3: you said, paid more.
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  Speaker 1: Is the relationship with the player transactional or transformational? What
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  Speaker 1: is it? Do you both benefit or is it just
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  Speaker 1: a dude that you pay to catch some passes? You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the question and it was hopefully transformational for him
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  Speaker 1: and and the BA fans. I think they really liked Kuilin.
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  Speaker 1: He has a big personality, is great and frankly kline
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  Speaker 1: take he's very expert in not burning a bridge and
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  Speaker 1: maintaining a loving, sincere, meaningful relationship with kids that by
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  Speaker 1: recruited out of high school doesn't work at their school,
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  Speaker 1: and then they come to BYU that works super successfully
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  Speaker 1: with Pokinakua goes to Washington and Kingsley Suwamatia goes to Oregon,
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  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. There's a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: these situations like you do it not because you need
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  Speaker 1: something from them, although you do, you do it because
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  Speaker 1: you actually care about the kids. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: that's the case with Clonie Stock and his staff.
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  Speaker 3: So the Kougs came up to they came up to
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  Speaker 3: the Huntsman Center, and I heard that it was it
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  Speaker 3: was a half BYU crowd or a forty five percent
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  Speaker 3: BYU crowd, and we were all treated to a really fun,
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  Speaker 3: really great game where Utah rose to the occasion and
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  Speaker 3: competed and ultimately came out on the wrong end of
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  Speaker 3: it against a very very talented BYU team. Did BYU
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  Speaker 3: learn anything about themselves in that game? It feels to
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  Speaker 3: me like the running youtes did certainly did did BYU.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question. And Utah absolutely was up for
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  Speaker 1: that game and played great, Like I was really impressed
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  Speaker 1: by Terrence Brennan Don McHenry, like, and yeah, that was great.
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  Speaker 1: That was exactly what we want from BYU and Utah,
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  Speaker 1: like a like a good game, both teams are into it,
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  Speaker 1: Like that was fantastic. Obviously, I like it more because
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  Speaker 1: the Boa one. But like I think Utah, yeah, got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of benefit out of that situation because they're
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  Speaker 1: going to play other teams like you while you here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I already played Arizona, but there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the Iowa States in the Houston so on and so forth. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think AJ who's still eighteen not nineteen
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  Speaker 1: for like a couple of weeks, I think he felt
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  Speaker 1: the rivalry. He felt what it's gonna feel like when
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  Speaker 1: you play some of these tougher road games against you know,
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  Speaker 1: better teams in similar hostile environments. I think that was
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  Speaker 1: I think that was good. It was good that Utah
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  Speaker 1: gave him a different look no one had doubled him
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  Speaker 1: like that, and he made super quick decisions and got
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  Speaker 1: out of most of them. But then at the end,
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  Speaker 1: Utah basically said like, okay, Rob, right, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: be the one to beat us. And Rob was up
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  Speaker 1: to the task, scoring eight of you always finally eighteen points,
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  Speaker 1: and Richie Saunders said, hey, I got an offensive rebound
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  Speaker 1: here because I want to win here because they were
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  Speaker 1: half and I thought that was Richie's best game as
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  Speaker 1: a Cougar. I really did capa. Kate obviously had some emotion,
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  Speaker 1: was good in that one. And Kevin Young had a
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  Speaker 1: funny story out of the game where he said Cava
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  Speaker 1: got a third foul and Kevin was bringing them over
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  Speaker 1: to the bench to sub out, and Cavee was super
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  Speaker 1: quiet and he was yelling at Kevin. He had never
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  Speaker 1: heard him scream louder, don't take me out of this game,
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  Speaker 1: So that it was very emotional and important. I think
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  Speaker 1: for Game three of eighteen in the Big Twelve, absolutely so.
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  Speaker 2: This fan base at Utah.
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone was like, oh, wow, look, this is
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  Speaker 3: what it should look like when your basketball arena is full.
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  Speaker 3: And let's not pretend it wasn't because it's BYU, right,
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  Speaker 3: but like, okay, cool, it can be loud in here.
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  Speaker 3: The players loved it, the coaches loved it, and I
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  Speaker 3: think the fan base to some extent, was just like,
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  Speaker 3: we ought to do a little bit more of this
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  Speaker 3: because there's certainly an energy and it's not a problem
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  Speaker 3: that BYU basketball has. Right now, what kind of a
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  Speaker 3: the next time these two teams meet up, it will
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  Speaker 3: be in Pro Bowl, So what kind of a home
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  Speaker 3: court advantage do you expect the BYU Cougars to experience
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  Speaker 3: in that matchup and probably equally importantly, maybe more importantly
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: through the rest of Big Twelve play oh.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: In eleven days when they play again, which is crazy
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: at the end of next week. I think it's gonna
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: be wild. Yeah. I think BYU fans have had unbelievablely
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: great crowds so far, and Boy's not played anybody at home.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be nuts. I think we're gonna
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: feel and see things we haven't seen since twenty eleven
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: with Jimmer Ferdett when BOI played Santy US State. Sean
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Boy has three potential Top twelve, Top ten matchups in
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the Marriott Center. I think they've had one all time.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's crazy what could happen this year and it's gonna
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: be epic. And these are games that really influence an
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: opportunity to be a top three seed for BYU. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you've got to win several of those, probably two of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the three. You know, you're gonna go on the road
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and play Texas Tech, and you're gonna play you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: some really huston You're gonna play some tough games. You
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: got to win some of these home games against the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: big time teams. And it's been very favorable. Merriyt Center
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: has been incredible. It's a who's who. There's all kinds
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: of people that want to come see this team and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: AJ and it's a hard ticket to get. And that's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: why a lot of boy fans went up to the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Hunts and Center because they want to see the team
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: play wherever they are there must see TV and must
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: see be there in person and everything and the energy
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: of the rivalry is great. It's gonna be awesome. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun. And oh, by the way,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that's on Fox National with My boy Aaron Goldsmith, who
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: calls the games for the Mariners. So super excited about
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the showcase. That is, he texted me a couple of
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: weeks I'm calling the Holy War. I was like, you're
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: gonna have fun. Man, you're his first time in provo
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is a B A U tugging.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. I hate to give credit, but I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: will do it where it's due. AJ DEBOTSA somehow pulled
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: off like the most subtle dig where he was talking
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: about the atmosphere at the Huntsman Center and he was like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: that was crazy. That was so loud. That was as
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: wild as FC. Well, some of my high school games too,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: and it's just like, oh no, you can't, you can't.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: You started with a compliment and then backhand, well, it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: kind of like some of my high school games. That
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: was rough, but good autumn because that's how we should
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: treat it well.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And frankly, you know, I guess we have a uniquely
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: unique perspective in this because in the WCC you always
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: playing in a bunch of small jams. Re a fan
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: love the gym measure, and there's there's a situation there
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: where you'd play at Saint Mary's and it's a small gym,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but it's crazy. I went up to the Kennel for
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a game it was crazy. It's not it's like in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the smith Field House for volleyball, frankly that I've called
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: for years. It's not about having like a twenty thousand
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: sea stadium per se. It's about like what is the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: environment when you're in there in that game and it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and it's been incredible, Like the Huntson Center was rocking Saturday.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: That was that was fun for everybody. It was a
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: great game. Like it's fun when the MERRYT Center. Yes,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it's almost nineteen thousand and it's packed every game and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. But like, yeah, if AJ had some small
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: high school gym and people are on top of you
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and it was heated, I think he was referring to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: how sort of intense it was as opposed to sort
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of the volume or the amount of people there. But yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that's probably fair. Yeah, But and he's he's not the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: guy that like talk trash per sale, although like he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: kind of does, but he's he's pretty respectful, And I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was happy he kind of said, yeah, that was there's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: some real vitrell there.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Who's going to win the national championship in college football?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's hard not to think Indiana and especially with Fernando
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Mendoza being a Miami guy, the motivations there, Miami's at home.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They play tough, physical football. They have all the skill
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: positions necessary to do this. Can they slow down? In Indiana?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Indiana is an unbelievable story, not just because of Indiana,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: because they don't have a bunch of five stars. They
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of we want to prove ourselves guys.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And frankly, I look at that model and I go,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: can you really turn into Indiana? They? Can? They do that?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: They have more If you only have twenty four stars
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: on the roster this year, se They've never had that many.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: This has got to be the most talented paper paper
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: team ever. You don't play on paper, I know, But
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like you want those kind of guys, What if Indiana
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: can do it? Why can't be? Why you were Utah doing?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: That's that's exactly what I took away.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: That's I mean, And it's probably naive in some aspects,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: but sure, like if that's exactly right. We're so used
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: to it being its Alabama this year, it's Georgia next year,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: It's Ohio State the next year, and now it's like, wait,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: it's Indiana and Miami hasn't been great for twenty something years, and.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Here they are again. You know, and Ole miss was
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: in a semi.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Final, So why not why you were? Utah? Why not?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Are we putting a cougartail bed on Niner Seahawks or something?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too all right, let's yeah, like, do you
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: do you want some points to then or just straight up?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: We'll just go straight up, okay, because I don't like
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: if I if they lose, but cove her, I'm not
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: going to feel good anyway, even as I as I'm like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: even as I'm eating the delicious maple frosting of a
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: cougar tail, it's not going to make me feel better
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: if the Niners are out of the playoffs.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: If they win, go ahead, Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say, I'm wearing a cougartail sweatshirt
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you cougartails. I saw something I don't
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: know where I was yesterday. There was something on a TV.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Might have been my own house, to my own embarrassment.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Did the creamery move?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Oh? Oh yeah, they have a new it's right behind
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the old location. You can't miss it. It's right there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's much bigger, and it's uh, it's like a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: mini grocery store kind of thing. But yeah, it's way nicer,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: way nicer.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the cougar paws they were launching, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: they had the like we moved the creamery. I mean, look,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: we're not going to celebrate a lot of b yu
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: things on the Home of the Utes here, but I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: on board with Cougartails and Graham Graham Canyon the cream
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Let's go right, you know, let's give these people some credit.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Bring back the giant brought worst inside of a cougartail bun.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: All right, then then I'll say nice things about you.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sending the picture of my sweatsird here. It's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: obviously reverse in the selfie here, but you get the point.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It's like in the Costco style of like the hot
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: dog like sas and kind of Yeah, it's I wore
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it today. I Big SportsNation, Amazing, amazing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I always appreciate your time. Jerem. Are you gonna be
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: at Mammoth tonight?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Uh? Not tonight, No, but I will be. Let's see winsnight. Oh,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'll be at.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Thursday Day, all right, I'll see you there soon. Awesome,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: appreciate your time.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: That's Jerem Jordan for Red and Blue, brought to you
• 23:55
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• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and a Cougars fan. That's like, it's pretty remarkable. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: actually like that guy.