Latest / The Bill Handel Show / Revolting Against Police Drones + Should Teens Vote?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
- 0:04Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Six more days, the midterms happen, and I'll be certainly
- 0:13Speaker 2: talking about them Wednesday morning because I'm not going to
- 0:15Speaker 2: sleep much Tuesday night as the results come in. Also,
- 0:20Speaker 2: Jim Keeney is not with us today. Jim is tied
- 0:23Speaker 2: up with some medical issue, and so he'll join us tomorrow.
- 0:27Speaker 2: For the Wednesday version of the medical segment that we do. Also,
- 0:32Speaker 2: Linz and I are starting a podcast, a travel podcast,
- 0:36Speaker 2: as I've told you many times. My disposable income goes
- 0:40Speaker 2: to travel. I just love traveling. And so we decided
- 0:44Speaker 2: we'd start a podcast about traveling and share some of
- 0:47Speaker 2: our fun stuff. It's called Excessive Baggage. for all manner
- 0:53Speaker 2: of reasons. It's a great name. And so we already
- 0:56Speaker 2: have some great videos up at Instagram. It's at Excessive
- 1:00Speaker 2: Baggage Podcast. On TikTok, it's at Excessive Baggage. And the
- 1:06Speaker 2: website is excessivebaggage.com. And we're going to be doing our
- 1:11Speaker 2: first podcast. We're recording in the next couple of days.
- 1:14Speaker 2: And at this point, we just have some fun videos
- 1:17Speaker 2: of me and Eddie, my favorite giraffe. And a visit
- 1:22Speaker 2: to the very sophisticated restroom out there in the African bush.
- 1:28Speaker 2: So a lot of stuff up there. So take a
- 1:31Speaker 2: look and enjoy.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Now, a story I want to share with you. And
- 1:35Speaker 2: this is going on across California. And police departments are
- 1:40Speaker 2: expanding their drone as first responder programs. And boy, what
- 1:44Speaker 2: a public backlash that is. Because there are the people
- 1:48Speaker 2: that are against this are basically saying this is warrantless surveillance,
- 1:51Speaker 2: corporate overreach. And the pushback is huge because you have
- 1:57Speaker 2: local policy hearing, local police hearings and these battles over
- 2:01Speaker 2: the boundaries of what neighborhood surveillance is all about. And
- 2:05Speaker 2: so this is heated public debates. Well, first of all,
- 2:08Speaker 2: you got some landmark privacy litigation happening. There is a
- 2:12Speaker 2: 2021 law in California that mandates explicit local board approval
- 2:18Speaker 2: for the use of, quote, military equipment, of which drones
- 2:23Speaker 2: are part of that. And the police are looking increasingly
- 2:27Speaker 2: as to drones as potential first responders. Very good way
- 2:34Speaker 2: of dealing as a first response, knowing exactly where things
- 2:38Speaker 2: take place. For example, You have drones overhead at car
- 2:44Speaker 2: accidents in real time. So the dispatchers know how many ambulances,
- 2:48Speaker 2: how serious this is. And this is in real time. Well,
- 2:52Speaker 2: law enforcement is pushing to broaden this use beyond just
- 2:56Speaker 2: emergency response to everyday patrols. And oh boy, are citizens
- 3:01Speaker 2: concerned about this because that's warrantless searches. And the worry
- 3:06Speaker 2: is that cities are hoarding too much of these data
- 3:08Speaker 2: collected by drones. Do drone makers have too much power information?
- 3:13Speaker 2: That's another question. The police department in San Francisco, for example,
- 3:17Speaker 2: asked commissioners to approve a policy allowing drones for a
- 3:21Speaker 2: bunch of uses, including public safety response. OK, we're talking
- 3:25Speaker 2: probably about demonstrations, active investigations, training, community outreach. Now, I
- 3:31Speaker 2: don't quite know how you use a drone for community outreach,
- 3:35Speaker 2: but okay. The problem here is it's like everything else.
- 3:40Speaker 2: The technology is there. The laws aren't catching up. We
- 3:47Speaker 2: know about what the police can and cannot do on
- 3:49Speaker 2: the ground. They can't break into your house. They're not
- 3:53Speaker 2: allowed to come in and search your home without a warrant.
- 3:57Speaker 2: They can't search your car without your permission unless there
- 4:00Speaker 2: are circumstances that allow the police to do that. There
- 4:04Speaker 2: are almost no laws that talk about the use of drones.
- 4:08Speaker 2: And there's not enough use of them out there. They
- 4:11Speaker 2: haven't been around long enough to have some good court cases. So,
- 4:14Speaker 2: and by the way, we don't even know what military
- 4:16Speaker 2: equipment is. Are drones, can they be used for military,
- 4:20Speaker 2: as military equipment? Of course they can. Are we allowed
- 4:24Speaker 2: to use them? For example, after Daryl Gates, former police chief,
- 4:27Speaker 2: was the first chief to use armored personnel carriers with
- 4:32Speaker 2: a big ramming device to crash into these safe homes,
- 4:36Speaker 2: these crack houses. that were boarded up you couldn't get into.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Massive metal doors and windows, and there was no way
- 4:42Speaker 2: for the cops to get in. They knew it was happening.
- 4:44Speaker 2: So Daryl Gates took an armored personnel carrier and basically
- 4:47Speaker 2: made a tank out of it and just rammed through.
- 4:50Speaker 2: And the city council said, you can't do that anymore.
- 4:53Speaker 2: First they did it, then the law. Same thing is
- 4:55Speaker 2: going on with the drones. First the drones, then the laws.
- 5:00Speaker 2: And drones are not crashing into a single building. Drones
- 5:04Speaker 2: are out there and they can see what we do,
- 5:07Speaker 2: what we're doing. For example, drones overhead. Should drones be
- 5:11Speaker 2: allowed to hover over your backyard just to see what's
- 5:15Speaker 2: going on? Well, helicopters do. You know, they sit around and,
- 5:19Speaker 2: you know, they will go over people's yard all the time,
- 5:23Speaker 2: especially if people are sunbathing and they're nude. You'll see
- 5:26Speaker 2: a couple of cops in the helicopter up there just hovering.
- 5:29Speaker 2: That's how I get them to leave. With binoculars. Will,
- 5:32Speaker 2: who had been on a helicopter for a bunch of years,
- 5:35Speaker 2: how often does that happen, Will? I shouldn't say. You
- 5:39Speaker 2: can't say? How often did you experience it? Not you looking,
- 5:42Speaker 2: mind you, because I understand you're paying attention to the traffic. Yeah,
- 5:46Speaker 2: of course, yeah. But how often did the helicopter, all
- 5:48Speaker 2: of a sudden you see a bunch of people, nude sunbathing?
- 5:52Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the honest truth. I've looked
- 5:54Speaker 2: in every pool in every backyard in Southern California. I almost,
- 5:58Speaker 2: almost never, ever see anybody using their pools, ever. At all?
- 6:02Speaker 1: Ever.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Naked or not? Naked or otherwise, yep.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:06Speaker 2: The point is that happens. So why not drones do
- 6:09Speaker 2: the same thing? Why is that? Why would that be illegal? Now,
- 6:13Speaker 2: the good part of drones is drones can go into
- 6:16Speaker 2: burning buildings, for example. Drones can go into... Buildings where
- 6:20Speaker 2: there's a bad guy in there holed up and they
- 6:22Speaker 2: send in these tiny little drones to find out where
- 6:24Speaker 2: he or she is. Usually he is. And then the
- 6:27Speaker 2: police know exactly in what part of the building. I mean,
- 6:29Speaker 2: that is tremendous use. I mean, that's a first responder incident.
- 6:33Speaker 2: A school has an active shooter situation going. And go
- 6:36Speaker 2: to the drones. Where is the shooter?
- 6:38Speaker 4: Which room?
- 6:39Speaker 2: That's technology. So the civil libertarians are going, oh, well,
- 6:43Speaker 2: you have to be very careful about that. Well, I mean,
- 6:45Speaker 2: they're right in the sense we don't have laws. We
- 6:47Speaker 2: don't have rules. We don't have regulations yet because this
- 6:50Speaker 2: is such new stuff. And as I told you before,
- 6:53Speaker 2: I have experienced new technology before the laws kicked in
- 6:58Speaker 2: in the world of IVF. I was doing surrogate parenting
- 7:00Speaker 2: and we knew IVF was coming. We just didn't know
- 7:03Speaker 2: how to deal with it. The technology came, and again,
- 7:05Speaker 2: we didn't know how to deal with it. We now do.
- 7:08Speaker 2: We now have laws. We now have regulations, and you're
- 7:10Speaker 2: going to see the same thing with drones. Also, those
- 7:13Speaker 2: flock cameras that are all over town in real time.
- 7:16Speaker 2: If you're going through, they know who you are. Now,
- 7:19Speaker 2: the good side of it is you've got a bad
- 7:22Speaker 2: guy getting away, and you have a driver's license plate,
- 7:26Speaker 2: and there they are. The cameras pick it up. Flock
- 7:29Speaker 2: sees who owns the car, and there's the bad guy
- 7:32Speaker 2: picked up. But they're also picking you up. Ooh, that's
- 7:36Speaker 2: a violation.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Which way do you go on that? I'm more towards
- 7:40Speaker 2: the cops on this one because I'm less afraid of
- 7:44Speaker 2: the cops than the bad guys. That's the way I
- 7:47Speaker 2: view it. Okay, coming up.
- 7:51Speaker 1: The FDA.
- 7:51Speaker 2: The FDA. And inspection of food. Neil, you're going to
- 7:55Speaker 2: join me on this one because this is an issue
- 7:58Speaker 2: that you have given into, dove into, have dived, will dive.
- 8:03Speaker 2: We all dive. We'll be back.
- 8:06Speaker 3: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Some stories we're looking at, a real unfortunate story. 64
- 8:15Speaker 2: people have been killed so far. confirmed after a Spanish
- 8:20Speaker 2: high-speed train collided with another train just south of Madrid.
- 8:25Speaker 2: And it looks like Nithya Raman and Karen Bass are
- 8:28Speaker 2: neck and neck. So we'll see what happens. That's next Tuesday, too.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Not only we have the propositions, of course, which I'm
- 8:36Speaker 2: talking about every day at 7.30 going through the props
- 8:40Speaker 2: and telling you which way I'm voting, the voter guide,
- 8:42Speaker 2: which I do every year that you cannot follow. But
- 8:45Speaker 2: just to let you know the reasons why and a
- 8:48Speaker 2: little bit trying to explain what it means, because you
- 8:51Speaker 2: can't pay attention to the ads. All they do is
- 8:53Speaker 2: lie on those ads. You cannot pay attention to any
- 8:56Speaker 2: of the mailers that come in. It is nothing but lies.
- 9:00Speaker 2: So you have to really read the proposition and the
- 9:03Speaker 2: legislative analysts to get any kind of an idea of
- 9:07Speaker 2: what is actually happening. All right. Neil is coming aboard
- 9:09Speaker 2: on this one and a story that came out of
- 9:12Speaker 2: The Washington Post. They did a investigation. that the FDA
- 9:18Speaker 2: basically doesn't inspect the foreign facilities that export into the
- 9:24Speaker 2: United States the vast majority of fresh produce, read Mexico primarily.
- 9:31Speaker 2: And let me go through this. Neil, are you kind
- 9:34Speaker 2: of surprised at the number of foodborne illnesses that come
- 9:38Speaker 2: out of Mexico and other countries that we don't do
- 9:41Speaker 2: a good job inspecting that are so relatively low? Because
- 9:45Speaker 2: I would guess the number, considering the risk and the
- 9:48Speaker 2: oversight the U.S. doesn't have, I'm surprised we only get
- 9:52Speaker 2: two or three cases a year of massive stuff.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing the odds and playing the numbers.
- 9:57Speaker 2: If you remember, they....
- 10:00Speaker 4: Outbreak with the lettuce not long ago, that particular Mexican facility,
- 10:07Speaker 4: I don't think it had been checked or inspected for
- 10:13Speaker 4: seven years. So you'd think And this is the simple stuff.
- 10:19Speaker 4: This is, you know, no poop on your food. This
- 10:22Speaker 4: is not like this isn't, you know, like they're not
- 10:26Speaker 4: cleaning the machinery or anything. This is something that has
- 10:29Speaker 4: gotten into the stream of our food. By way of the,
- 10:35Speaker 4: you know, picking most probably.
- 10:38Speaker 2: But let me ask in terms of the numbers, isn't
- 10:40Speaker 2: it impossible to look at the food that's coming in? Absolutely.
- 10:47Speaker 2: And so, as you said, what they do is sample.
- 10:49Speaker 2: The FDA does the same thing with food production in
- 10:52Speaker 2: the U.S., you know, major plants. We have different rules
- 10:55Speaker 2: in America.
- 10:58Speaker 4: The circumstances are different, whereas we have rules at the
- 11:01Speaker 4: picking point and things like this. This is most commonly
- 11:04Speaker 4: due to people that are picking using going to the
- 11:08Speaker 4: bathroom in the fields and things like that is when
- 11:10Speaker 4: there's problems. I don't want to get too detailed, but
- 11:15Speaker 4: if you get food poisoning, there's different kinds of food poisoning.
- 11:19Speaker 4: I've had food poisoning before where my doctor said, this
- 11:24Speaker 4: specific thing you have is because somebody had not washed
- 11:28Speaker 4: their hands or after using the bathroom or things like that,
- 11:33Speaker 4: they can tell as to what the issue is. And
- 11:37Speaker 4: we're better at that here in the United States than
- 11:39Speaker 4: some other countries are. But you're absolutely right. There's no
- 11:43Speaker 4: way to sit through everything. You're playing the numbers always.
- 11:47Speaker 4: But seven years?
- 11:49Speaker 2: That's a long time. And that's a major. And we're
- 11:51Speaker 2: not talking about a small producer. We're talking about one
- 11:53Speaker 2: of the biggest production plants ever. And in the country,
- 11:58Speaker 2: Taylor Farms, Domexico, which is huge with the iceberg lettuce.
- 12:03Speaker 2: The other thing I want to point out is every
- 12:05Speaker 2: time you're sick, you have a stomach issue. I've got
- 12:07Speaker 2: the stomach flu. No, you don't. No one gets the
- 12:10Speaker 2: stomach flu. No, there's not really. I don't think there
- 12:13Speaker 2: is the stomach flu. It doesn't exist. It's food poisoning.
- 12:16Speaker 2: It's poop. It's people, people getting poop on your food.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:22Speaker 4: So we say you've got a stomach bug, but yes,
- 12:25Speaker 4: the vast majority of the time, that's just food poisoning.
- 12:28Speaker 2: It is so much fun. The other thing is what
- 12:31Speaker 2: the FDA can do. And I've always, I just am
- 12:34Speaker 2: marveling at this science. They, so let's say you have
- 12:37Speaker 2: a salmonella outbreak or an E. coli outbreak. They can
- 12:43Speaker 2: figure out not only what part of the country, but
- 12:46Speaker 2: which part, factory, which farm, which row of cabbages it
- 12:52Speaker 2: came from. And I find that incredible that there's that
- 12:57Speaker 2: kind of technology out there.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to be able to trace these things,
- 13:01Speaker 4: and there's often arguments as to who does this better.
- 13:04Speaker 4: We actually are pretty strict in the U.S. We get
- 13:09Speaker 4: a lot of people that say, oh, but Europe, you know,
- 13:12Speaker 4: those little toppings, those colorful toppings you put on ice cream,
- 13:16Speaker 4: they call them jimmies or whatever they are, the little sprinkles.
- 13:20Speaker 4: Some of those are not legal in the U.K. because–
- 13:24Speaker 4: They have certain dyes in them. And so people go, oh,
- 13:27Speaker 4: the U.S., you know, we're relaxed. But we're not. We actually,
- 13:32Speaker 4: the FDA and the USDA is actually pretty big when
- 13:35Speaker 4: it comes to the risk-based stuff and the generally recognized
- 13:40Speaker 4: as safe materials. But, you know, things are going to
- 13:42Speaker 4: get through, especially on stuff that is not cooked, things
- 13:46Speaker 4: that remain raw like lettuce or certain veggies and things
- 13:49Speaker 4: like that.
- 13:50Speaker 2: OK, coming up, we're talking a little bit about next Tuesday.
- 13:55Speaker 2: There's a ballot measure in Culver City and it's talking
- 14:01Speaker 2: about giving 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote.
- 14:06Speaker 2: What is that about? Don't you have to be 21? Well,
- 14:09Speaker 2: let me tell you what's going on in Culver City
- 14:11Speaker 2: and other cities throughout California and the rest of the country, too.
- 14:16Speaker 3: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Calendar this one. And this is November 14, where Neil,
- 14:27Speaker 2: when Neil broadcasts his Saturday show, The Fork Report, from
- 14:31Speaker 2: 2 to 5 o'clock. And occasionally he'll do it out
- 14:34Speaker 2: of the studio and on Thanksgiving Day, which happens once
- 14:39Speaker 2: a year. He is broadcasting from the Wild Fork store.
- 14:43Speaker 2: in Laguna Niguel, and I will join him for that broadcast.
- 14:48Speaker 2: And we're inviting you to join us. And boy, there
- 14:51Speaker 2: are samples. But this is not Costco samples where the
- 14:55Speaker 2: psycho Korean ladies push you out of the way like
- 14:58Speaker 2: they do every time I go to Costco. This is, well...
- 15:02Speaker 2: get hungry and come hungry. Cause this is phenomenal. And
- 15:05Speaker 2: Neil has a ton of guests on and chefs. It'll
- 15:08Speaker 2: be fun. We're looking forward. It's always fun. And so
- 15:10Speaker 2: join us for the broadcast. Okay. Now this is an
- 15:14Speaker 2: interesting topic, which I've brought to the table for several years,
- 15:19Speaker 2: many years, actually. And that is, well, Culver city coming
- 15:24Speaker 2: up on Tuesday on the vote is going to vote
- 15:29Speaker 2: on a local ballot measure. the voters, that would eventually
- 15:34Speaker 2: give 16 and 17-year-olds the right to vote in city
- 15:39Speaker 2: and school board elections. And if it passes, it would
- 15:42Speaker 2: make Culver City one of the few municipalities, not only
- 15:45Speaker 2: in California, but across the country, to expand voting rights
- 15:48Speaker 2: to people under 18. So here are the arguments. Why
- 15:51Speaker 2: should people under 18, why should they have the vote?
- 15:54Speaker 2: Because the vote right now is 21 years or older. No,
- 15:58Speaker 2: it's 18 years or older. And here's the argument, is
- 16:02Speaker 2: that when you're 16 and 17 years old, you are crazy. Actually,
- 16:06Speaker 2: it should be girls should vote and guys should not
- 16:09Speaker 2: because of the maturity factor. The argument in favor is 18-year-olds, well,
- 16:16Speaker 2: they're able to drive, they're able to smoke, and probably
- 16:20Speaker 2: more importantly, they're able to fight for this country. And
- 16:23Speaker 2: if they're willing and able to die... Remember our army,
- 16:26Speaker 2: armed forces are volunteers. Then you think they should be
- 16:30Speaker 2: able to vote. Now, the other side is what were
- 16:33Speaker 2: you like when you were 16? How crazy were you
- 16:37Speaker 2: and how many issues were you looking at? And 16
- 16:40Speaker 2: year olds don't have the maturity. Now, I find that
- 16:43Speaker 2: argument kind of funny because how many voters out there
- 16:46Speaker 2: in general have the maturity to vote? No, because as
- 16:51Speaker 2: I say, you pay attention to the commercials. I mean, look,
- 16:54Speaker 2: look what's going on politically. We're not talking about the issues.
- 16:58Speaker 2: We're talking about attacking the other guy. And what does
- 17:00Speaker 2: that have to do with issues? What the hell does
- 17:02Speaker 2: that have to do with what's happening? Well, on local elections,
- 17:06Speaker 2: it probably affects us more than even national elections in
- 17:10Speaker 2: certain areas, certain issues. And so should 16-year-olds have the
- 17:15Speaker 2: ability to vote? Because I don't think they're any less mature. Well,
- 17:19Speaker 2: of course they are. But do they look at issues
- 17:22Speaker 2: far less and with less understanding? than 18-year-olds. Argument goes
- 17:27Speaker 2: the other way. So let's do a survey. Amy, 16-year-olds,
- 17:30Speaker 2: should they vote? Hell no. This is local elections, mind you,
- 17:33Speaker 2: because not in statewide. We're only talking really local elections. Neil,
- 17:37Speaker 2: should 16-year-olds vote?
- 17:39Speaker 1: Nope.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Okay. Will, should 16-year-olds vote?
- 17:44Speaker 1: Nope. Wow.
- 17:45Speaker 2: And should 16-year-olds vote? No. Ooh, Mario? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Wow.
- 17:53Speaker 2: It's unanimous. 16-year-olds should not vote. Well, as far as
- 17:56Speaker 2: the vote is concerned, you know, I'm sort of mixed
- 17:59Speaker 2: on that. But I will tell you, I don't think
- 18:01Speaker 2: 16-year-old girls should be able to vote. I don't think
- 18:04Speaker 2: women should be able to vote at all. 1920, the
- 18:06Speaker 2: worst year in the history of the United States when
- 18:09Speaker 2: women were given the right to vote. What the hell happened?
- 18:13Speaker 2: That's when this country went to hell in a handbasket.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Coming up, the Hollywood sign. What is going on with
- 18:19Speaker 2: the Hollywood sign? And there's news there.
- 18:23Speaker 3: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
- 18:30Speaker 2: We still have a lot more to cover. Well, it's
- 18:32Speaker 2: our last segment. So we're going to have a good
- 18:36Speaker 2: time with this one. And don't forget, Tuesday coming up
- 18:39Speaker 2: is our midterm election. And please go vote. Do not
- 18:42Speaker 2: squander your franchise to vote. too many people died so
- 18:47Speaker 2: you could vote. Don't care which way you vote, but
- 18:51Speaker 2: please do. OK, now let's look at cities and their landmarks. OK,
- 18:57Speaker 2: you've talked about Paris. Of course, it's the Eiffel Tower.
- 19:01Speaker 2: You think of London and it's Big Ben and Westminster Abbey. Now,
- 19:07Speaker 2: the Eiffel Tower was the 1800s. late 1800s. Westminster Abbey was, what,
- 19:15Speaker 2: the 1300s is when it first went up, so that's
- 19:17Speaker 2: been around for a while.
- 19:18Speaker 3: St.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Louis has the Arch, which is fairly new. New York,
- 19:22Speaker 2: of course, the Statue of Liberty, also turned the last
- 19:25Speaker 2: century or before that in the 1800s. And L.A. has
- 19:28Speaker 2: the Hollywood sign. Now, the Hollywood sign was 1923 because
- 19:30Speaker 2: it originally was to promote a... uh, promote a group
- 19:40Speaker 2: of houses being sold. It was, uh, a, uh, it
- 19:42Speaker 2: was just a promotion for a subsection or a subdivision.
- 19:46Speaker 2: And it was Hollywood land, as you know, and the, uh,
- 19:51Speaker 2: the land part, actually, the last four letters fell apart.
- 19:56Speaker 2: And so it was left as Hollywood. Now, that Hollywood
- 19:59Speaker 2: sign is iconic. And people come from all over the
- 20:01Speaker 2: world to Southern California, and they go to see the
- 20:05Speaker 2: Hollywood sign. They want to take a picture of themselves
- 20:07Speaker 2: in front of the Hollywood sign. And it used to
- 20:09Speaker 2: be so bad. It used to be such a mess
- 20:13Speaker 2: up there because you go up the streets, I think
- 20:15Speaker 2: it's Beachwood Drive, and these are tiny little streets and
- 20:19Speaker 2: people live there and traffic was being blocked. So what
- 20:24Speaker 2: ended up happening was one of the city council people,
- 20:28Speaker 2: Tom LaBonge in 2011, cleared bush, cleared the brush around
- 20:33Speaker 2: this Canyon Lake drive up there to make a way
- 20:35Speaker 2: for viewing sites. And that is now known as the
- 20:38Speaker 2: Hollywood sign lookout. You can see that on Google maps
- 20:41Speaker 2: and it attracts not only tourists, but street vendors, fruta, fruta, frutas, frutas,
- 20:47Speaker 2: that you can eat. And here is the problem, is
- 20:50Speaker 2: that it's gotten so bad that these tourists are using
- 20:55Speaker 2: and not only blocking up traffic, but using that entire
- 20:59Speaker 2: area's public toilets and leaving all kind of vitreous on
- 21:04Speaker 2: their plastic bottles and garbage that people They smoke up there.
- 21:10Speaker 2: And the danger is not only does it make life
- 21:12Speaker 2: miserable for the folks that live up there, it's a
- 21:15Speaker 2: real fire hazard. Because what they're saying is we have
- 21:19Speaker 2: such tiny streets anyway. If a fire breaks out, and
- 21:23Speaker 2: this all happened because of the Palisades fire, and it
- 21:25Speaker 2: took people on a whole different mindset in terms of
- 21:28Speaker 2: the risk of fire. If there is a Saturday, for example,
- 21:32Speaker 2: and you've got hundreds of people up there taking pictures
- 21:35Speaker 2: of of themselves in front of the sign. Man, how
- 21:39Speaker 2: do we get down the hill with these people? It
- 21:41Speaker 2: used to be that you could go right up to
- 21:43Speaker 2: the sign. You could actually sit in the O or
- 21:48Speaker 2: the D and get pictures taken. Well, they did away
- 21:51Speaker 2: with that. Here's a quick factoid. that I'm going to
- 21:55Speaker 2: throw at you, Neil, because you always shake your head.
- 21:58Speaker 2: And that is the Hollywood sign was falling apart. The
- 22:02Speaker 2: city would not repair it. Who was it that put
- 22:06Speaker 2: up the money to refurbish it and bring it up
- 22:10Speaker 2: to the level it is now with steel and posts
- 22:13Speaker 2: and to make it permanent and looking lovely? You know
- 22:16Speaker 2: who put up that money?
- 22:18Speaker 4: I think there was a couple of different individuals, but
- 22:21Speaker 4: the name that comes to mind is Alice Cooper.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Uh hugh hefner ah hugh hefner put up most of
- 22:27Speaker 2: the money i thought i thought different people paid for
- 22:30Speaker 2: different letters could be that they sold off and this
- 22:33Speaker 2: was in the 70s the early 70s yeah my understanding
- 22:36Speaker 2: was hugh hefner was either the biggest uh certainly i
- 22:40Speaker 2: think the biggest name okay so anyway uh hollywood sign
- 22:44Speaker 2: he only paid for wood W.O.O.D. A kid. A joke. Yeah.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Do you remember when marijuana was legalized? It was I
- 22:55Speaker 2: think it was when. Yeah. Hollyweed. Someone came up there
- 22:59Speaker 2: and changed the letters.
- 23:01Speaker 4: And Oliver North, when he was on trial or whatever,
- 23:06Speaker 4: it was Ollywood.
- 23:08Speaker 2: They covered the H, I think. There's been a couple
- 23:11Speaker 2: of times. Yeah, you can't do that anymore. So the
- 23:14Speaker 2: fun part is gone. But I can see if you're
- 23:16Speaker 2: living up there. First of all, why would you live
- 23:17Speaker 2: up there? I have no idea. All right, guys, we're done.
- 23:20Speaker 2: That's it. Show is over. Gary and Shannon up next.
- 23:24Speaker 2: We come back again tomorrow, starting all over again. Will
- 23:27Speaker 2: and Amy, wake up call. The rest of us here. Well, no. Well,
- 23:31Speaker 2: Mario and Ann are always here. But Neil and I
- 23:34Speaker 2: come aboard at six o'clock and then we lock out
- 23:37Speaker 2: and I say goodbye. So goodbye. This is KFI AM 640.
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