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Panel-Discussion-on-Kingdom-Issues · Apostle Joshua Selman

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  Speaker 2: We will praise you.
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  Speaker 2: We will praise you.
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  Speaker 2: We will praise you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there, Oh.
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  Speaker 8: I'd like you to live to a verse and say,
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  Speaker 8: this is my life of transformation.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead of day.
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  Speaker 9: It will be so changed tonight it'll be a movement
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  Speaker 10: Haba basta bah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 10: la ba shapra.
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  Speaker 2: Ba ba la bas here My life is changing my
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  Speaker 2: life is changing.
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  Speaker 9: Go ahead and pray not to have transformation, but the
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  Speaker 9: power of the role is goes your life.
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  Speaker 2: Your life is that our legade to night.
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  Speaker 8: Bla blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Allelujahs, raise a lot, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 11: The Bible says they grow from strength to strength as
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  Speaker 11: many that appear in Zion before God. Tonight it's one
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  Speaker 11: of those nights that I believe your mind will be
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  Speaker 11: so chaped, your.
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  Speaker 2: Life will be so transformed.
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  Speaker 11: I was so excited on my way coming because I
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  Speaker 11: knew for sure I'm telling you things will. There is
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  Speaker 11: a veil that will be torn from your life. I
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  Speaker 11: like you to pray, say Lord Christ to not just
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  Speaker 11: Christ to hear lift your voice and pray not.
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  Speaker 2: Just to get excited for nothing, Christ, to.
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  Speaker 9: See the kind of sight that will first result in
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  Speaker 9: my life. Those outside. Make sure you're praying, make sure
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  Speaker 9: you're participating. Shaa braa sing.
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  Speaker 10: So brand lash Showa sha nasa bah chapone God superda
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  Speaker 10: ba laa.
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  Speaker 2: Allelujah, hallelujah. I will to welcome everyone here tonight.
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  Speaker 11: It's always a joy to have us. There's a lot
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  Speaker 11: to do tonight, so we're not going to waste time.
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  Speaker 11: By the way, after this session tonight, it's an importation.
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  Speaker 2: So let your heart be open, because for many of
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  Speaker 2: you it will start. Importation is simply a transference of grace,
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  Speaker 2: a transparence of spiritual possibilities. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: It's not about falling down and standing up. It's about
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  Speaker 11: something tangible entering you. You heard the testimony of the
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  Speaker 11: gentleman who came here.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 11: When grace comes on you, you know you have gotten it.
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  Speaker 11: It's not about saying I think I have it. If
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  Speaker 11: you are not sure, you don't have it. Tonight, don't
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  Speaker 11: just listen. I want you to receive. This is not
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  Speaker 11: one of those nights we come with our pride and
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  Speaker 11: arrogance hoping to see if we can get one or
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  Speaker 11: two things. Everyone here, take off your golden crowns. Listen
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  Speaker 11: to the Lord. Let him speak to us and have
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  Speaker 11: something to right. Please those outside and in all the overflows,
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  Speaker 11: and then those following us online.
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  Speaker 2: Pay attention.
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  Speaker 11: Pay attention because your life will be blessed in the
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  Speaker 11: name of the Lord Jesus Christ, allelujah.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to go straight to the interactive session.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting. It's going to be.
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  Speaker 11: Around four areas basically spiritual growth, relationship and family life,
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  Speaker 11: finances and leadership. So our discussion is going to be
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  Speaker 11: around these four areas, but we will dwell very strongly
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  Speaker 11: on family life and finances. Want to stay their relationship,
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  Speaker 11: family life, and then finances want to stay big there
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  Speaker 11: because it concerns a lot of us, So please pay attention.
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  Speaker 11: There a few people that will be calling off stage,
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  Speaker 11: but then in the course of it, it's not just
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  Speaker 11: going to be us speaking.
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  Speaker 2: Praise the Lord. I hope that in the course of
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  Speaker 2: the discussion will also allow people to come and talk tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see how God will grant us grace
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  Speaker 2: to do justice to these issues. Praise the Lord. So
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  Speaker 2: there are three things that would require of us.
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  Speaker 11: Number one, please be disciplined and be well behaved, especially
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  Speaker 11: where opportunities giving on to us to ask questions or
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  Speaker 11: even come out. You have to be disciplined. Any act
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  Speaker 11: of indisciplined will just send you back.
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  Speaker 2: So prepare your.
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  Speaker 11: Mind so that you save yourself any embarrassment. Praise the Lord,
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  Speaker 11: and then as much as possible, will pay attention. I
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  Speaker 11: believe that the people will be able to talk. I
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  Speaker 11: will be moderating. I will also participate, and you are
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  Speaker 11: going to learn a lot, brothers, especially, I'm on your
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  Speaker 11: case tonight. Let your eyes, your ears, your spirit, everything
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  Speaker 11: that can be opened, that it be open to listen
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  Speaker 11: and receive. Every Ambrober came from a family every weeked
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  Speaker 11: father was a sincere man who did not understand good leadership.
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  Speaker 11: Are we together now, so you're going to be listening.
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  Speaker 11: The Bible talked about a man who was once in
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  Speaker 11: the faith called Demas, and he for some reason, he
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  Speaker 11: did not understand the principle of sustainable grace, and he
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  Speaker 11: fell out of grace and so on and so forth,
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  Speaker 11: and he was used as an instrument of caution.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a lot that we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: dealing with. So I'll call a few people.
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  Speaker 11: Let's see if we need more chairs or have agmine.
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  Speaker 11: Please honor him, appreciate her, hallelujah. By the way, the
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  Speaker 11: surprising part of it is they do not even know
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  Speaker 11: they are the facilitators. Hallelujah. He was intentional so that
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  Speaker 11: they will give you their best. We don't want any
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  Speaker 11: plastics state managed response here. We wanted real time. So
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  Speaker 11: I'm the only one who knows I'm going to be here.
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  Speaker 11: None of them knows that we're going to be here.
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  Speaker 11: Please doctor Jelly can.
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  Speaker 3: Come to follow him.
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  Speaker 2: Allelujah, Our Daddy, prop sir, please, allelujah, praise a Lord.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate them or them. Please say that. Make yourself
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  Speaker 2: very very comfortable. You can leave the last room for me,
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  Speaker 2: the last and I'll sit down there. Allelujah. Where is Shadday? Shadday?
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  Speaker 2: His wife. Lets her be representative of the ladies here. Allelujah.
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  Speaker 2: Is she here? Okay?
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  Speaker 11: Please she can relieve her from the Finance department and
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  Speaker 11: then let her come. There's a lord, pastor Alpha hallelujah,
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  Speaker 11: here's a Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Open your mouth in one minute and say, Lord, speak
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  Speaker 2: to me. Go ahead, pray to me. Oh God, speak to.
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  Speaker 11: Me, by the power of the Holy Spirit, speak to you.
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  Speaker 11: I open up my heart, I open up my spirit. Allelujah,
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  Speaker 11: Praise the Lord. Now I understand that the Protocol Department
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  Speaker 11: is making an arrangement for questions you may have.
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  Speaker 2: We may not take all the questions. And then the
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  Speaker 2: fact that we're sitting here doesn't mean we're the only
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  Speaker 2: ones who will be responding.
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  Speaker 11: I'm going to give opportunity for people. You can come
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  Speaker 11: up and respond. If your idea is not making sense,
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  Speaker 11: you will receive it and send you back. So please
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  Speaker 11: make sure you know what you're saying. Don't just come
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  Speaker 11: out and disgrace yourself. We're very serious tonight, in the
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  Speaker 11: name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's only that we
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  Speaker 11: need to have representatives here so that we can communicate
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  Speaker 11: these things. So praise a lot, all right, please sit down, welcome, Allelujah,
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  Speaker 11: belivening sirs.
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  Speaker 2: They're all.
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  Speaker 11: They seem to be a big nervous but just one
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  Speaker 11: answer will quench everything. Trust me, these people are very
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  Speaker 11: brilliant and there is a reason why they're all here.
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  Speaker 2: Raise the Lord Shah.
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  Speaker 11: They decided to run and sit near her husband, so
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  Speaker 11: that whatever happens.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 11: Now we're going to be discussing along five areas or
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  Speaker 11: four areas. Like I said, Number one is spiritual growth.
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  Speaker 11: Number two is relationship and family life general relationship. But
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  Speaker 11: we're going to focus on family and love relationship. I
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  Speaker 11: believe in family.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that family represents the bedrock of society.
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  Speaker 11: Every cities, in every teeth, every terrorist comes from a family.
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  Speaker 11: Praise the Lord, and then we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 11: around finances. By God's grace, as a person and as
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  Speaker 11: a ministry, we're unapologetic about.
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  Speaker 2: The role that finances place.
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  Speaker 11: So place we need will help us. We need mics,
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  Speaker 11: at least one or two. Can you help us coordinate
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  Speaker 11: yourself so that we have that. We should have at
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  Speaker 11: least one or two, Praise the Lord. I'll discuss the
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  Speaker 11: subjects at random, because in the course of answering, some
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  Speaker 11: of them will step into other topics, so it's not
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  Speaker 11: just going to be streamlined. But then I would leave
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  Speaker 11: the spiritual area of spiritual growth as the last session,
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  Speaker 11: because if we start with it, trust me, won't talk
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  Speaker 11: about money again, won't talk about family or problem with
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  Speaker 11: people on that the annointing shouting, and that's how we
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  Speaker 11: end the service.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll start and then we can end that. We
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  Speaker 2: just flow into the session.
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  Speaker 11: Of the importation. You can give them the mics. You
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  Speaker 11: don't have to, Yes, thank you, allelujah, Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Shaddy.
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  Speaker 11: What is wrong with women today? What exactly is the problem?
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  Speaker 11: What is wrong with women? You're speaking on behalf of
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  Speaker 11: very concerned brothers.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is the problem? Have they changed? Have they evolved?
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  Speaker 2: Is it that we don't understand them, and this so difficult?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the way it's supposed to be. What exactly
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  Speaker 2: is wrong with women?
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  Speaker 11: Please go ahead with respect to relationships, really personalities?
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  Speaker 2: Relationships? Is that working?
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  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord? Gaddie?
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with women?
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  Speaker 12: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Feel free, don't try to be right. Trust me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: here for you.
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  Speaker 11: I'm a facility or that's why. That's why I decided
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  Speaker 11: to coordinate it myself. I'm both to speaker and a coordinator,
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  Speaker 11: so I can.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, In terms of relationship, let me assure maybe why.
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  Speaker 2: You hear her? Okay? Please technical you will have to
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  Speaker 2: help us. We need volumeste the.
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  Speaker 3: Lord, all right?
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  Speaker 12: In terms of relationships, and maybe some of our behaviors
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  Speaker 12: before marriage before saying yes and all of that, I
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  Speaker 12: think I would like to summarize it in a world
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  Speaker 12: or two. Maybe fear or insecurity, something like that. I
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  Speaker 12: don't know, fear of your known And that's why she
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  Speaker 12: may have to size a young man again and again
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  Speaker 12: before saying yes, and even if his presence she may
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  Speaker 12: have to look and wonder if he's present has a
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  Speaker 12: little bit of what she has always desired. Remember, ladies,
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  Speaker 12: we always have our least intact right. Yes, I had
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  Speaker 12: it too, so I know we always have it.
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  Speaker 3: So something like that.
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  Speaker 11: Amen, Amen, very interesting, you're still there. Hold on, If
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  Speaker 11: I say I love you, what does that exactly mean
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  Speaker 11: to you? When a brother tells his sister I love you.
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  Speaker 11: I think there's confusion somewhere. We need to define terminologists
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  Speaker 11: very clearly. If I meet a lady and I say
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  Speaker 11: I love you, what is an interpretation of what I
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  Speaker 11: have said?
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  Speaker 2: In your opinion?
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  Speaker 11: Speak on behalf of the ladies. Because I think the
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  Speaker 11: brothers are really confused somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: We need to clarify.
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  Speaker 12: I go ahead, please, I admire you. Maybe something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I admire you.
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  Speaker 12: I want to have a relationship with you. You fascinate me,
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  Speaker 12: you trip me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, something like that. Amazing. It's going to get interesting here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what jumping into family life straight up,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm happy. The first concept that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: deal with here that I believe listen carefully has been
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  Speaker 2: a big problem in relationship and family is understanding the
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  Speaker 2: perspective of a woman and a personspective of a man.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: According to scripture, a man's design is such that his
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  Speaker 11: goal oriented and purpose reading.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together?
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  Speaker 11: So everything that has to do with love for a
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  Speaker 11: man is with respect to his purpose and destiny.
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  Speaker 2: Everything on the journey is only a means to an end.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now? So when a man tells a lady,
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  Speaker 2: I love you, speaking from the standpoint of a man,
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  Speaker 2: this is what he's trying to say.
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  Speaker 11: I know where I'm going, I'm absolutely sure, and I
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  Speaker 11: believe you are able to help me get there.
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  Speaker 2: Are together now? So he speaks to her, telling her,
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  Speaker 2: I love you with respect to purpose.
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  Speaker 11: But sadly, I've come to understand I've had the privilege
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  Speaker 11: of counseling people that that has nothing to do with.
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  Speaker 2: Love for a lady. So a Jimmy, when you told
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  Speaker 2: Hope you loved her, what exactly was her understanding? Go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: Praise God well for me. When I told Hope I
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  Speaker 2: loved her, and I still love her a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: love her all every day as the day goes by.
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  Speaker 5: What I meant was, in all honesty, I see a
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  Speaker 5: picture of your future that my presence in your life
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  Speaker 5: can help you. Actually, it had nothing to do with emotions,
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  Speaker 5: It had nothing to do with fascination.
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  Speaker 2: It had everything to do with you are this wonderful person.
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  Speaker 2: My presence in.
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  Speaker 5: Your life can help you become an even better person,
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  Speaker 5: and your presence in my life can help me become
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  Speaker 5: an even better person.
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  Speaker 2: The feelings, the euphoria is an additional package. So why
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  Speaker 2: did you marry her? Because you didn't have to marry
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  Speaker 2: her for all this to happen. I mean, you could
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  Speaker 2: easily just have a deciple.
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  Speaker 11: Oh come on, I think, say I'm your friend tonight,
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  Speaker 11: and amen, because listen. This is very serious, and I think, brothers,
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  Speaker 11: we need to listen because because while a man's perspective
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  Speaker 11: of love has.
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  Speaker 2: To do it purpose and whatever helps him get their eve.
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  Speaker 11: I am busy trying to prepare a salmon a way
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  Speaker 11: together now. I am on my assignment, and if a
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  Speaker 11: lady brings me a cup of water to help me
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  Speaker 11: become energetic and be able to think, or a plate
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  Speaker 11: of food, I interpret what she has done as love
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  Speaker 11: because I see how it supports what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: If she comes and tells me she wants.
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  Speaker 11: Attention, I know it's right, but I interpret that as
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  Speaker 11: a distraction because I believe I am busy doing something
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  Speaker 11: I way together now. But it's interesting to know that
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  Speaker 11: love has nothing to do with purpose for a lady,
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  Speaker 11: nothing to do with assignment.
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  Speaker 2: I way together.
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  Speaker 11: So when a guy tells you a lady, for instance,
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  Speaker 11: I love you, this is what she means.
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  Speaker 2: I am busy and I am purposed driven. I know that,
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  Speaker 2: but I have seen that I am able to give
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  Speaker 2: you time, give you attention. Are we together now and
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  Speaker 2: give you the emotional confidence you need to.
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  Speaker 11: Become the person God has destined for you to be.
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  Speaker 11: I am aware of the cost implication of loving you,
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  Speaker 11: and I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Still making that choice. This is what ladies interpret by
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  Speaker 2: I love you. So the man says, I love you,
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  Speaker 2: and this is what he's saying, walk with me to
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  Speaker 2: life and destiny.
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  Speaker 11: And the lady says, I love you too, and he says,
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  Speaker 11: give me time and attention, and then I'll pay attention
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  Speaker 11: to They think they have communicated well, and then the
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  Speaker 11: relationship starts or the marriage starts, and the lady is saying,
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  Speaker 11: you are so selfish. And the man comes back by
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  Speaker 11: ten o'clock and says, I was sweating day and night
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  Speaker 11: to make sure we pay this rent.
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  Speaker 2: So you are comfortable.
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  Speaker 11: And then the lady says, let the rent go places
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  Speaker 11: you are thinking about your destiny and forgetting about me.
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy, what do you have to say about this?
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  Speaker 11: Because this has broken a lot of marriages were coming.
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  Speaker 11: I'm telling you were going to exhaust the grace upon everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So the plane is just lifting. Praise God.
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  Speaker 5: Personally for me, this is what I always think about
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  Speaker 5: because I know that for a lady, time, attention intimacy
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  Speaker 5: are very important.
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  Speaker 2: When I started dating my wife, now I.
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  Speaker 5: Make sure I understood what was important to her, and
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  Speaker 5: I evoluated whether I'll be willing and able to sacrifice
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  Speaker 5: my own desires for a little while to help her
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  Speaker 5: establish her oh, so that in response she will now say, okay,
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  Speaker 5: let's do your own. So when I evaluted it, I said,
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  Speaker 5: this lady's goes and dreams, I can pause mine for
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  Speaker 5: a little while to help her establishers.
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  Speaker 2: And I think I may be wrong, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that has really helped in getting us where we are.
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  Speaker 2: That is, sir.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, it's very interesting to sit close to your
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  Speaker 11: son in love and be discussing on this subject. What
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  Speaker 11: would you say is the one problem of the younger
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  Speaker 11: generation as compared to the perspective of the people within
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  Speaker 11: your age range. What is different about your priorities for
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  Speaker 11: marriage and relationship as against what we prioritize.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yes, sir, so let's live up. Go to say
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  Speaker 2: this thing. It's sentence.
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  Speaker 13: I would say that this generation depends more on their eyes, wow,
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: than their spirit man.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Now that's a father speaking, So you pay attention. This
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: generation depends more on their eyes than their spirit man,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: which is dangerous.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: The Bible wants us, with multiples criptures to be careful
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: because the eyes can deceive.
• 24:03
  Speaker 13: And go ahead, sir, you know like you see this
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: generation when I was growing up, I think I said
• 24:10
  Speaker 13: it to some people maybe some months back. You see
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: the houses so in the villages those days, as mentioned,
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: if I go there and just be as if they
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: were view for guinea picks. So you said that the
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: own generation, I think we were going up and you
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: see so many things that are pouncible.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: You said that when we were growing up, everybody was
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: related around you.
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: So you didn't see a distinction between a rich man
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: and a poor person. So so you see when it
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: comes the matter of choice of a while, we depended
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: so much on our hearts, what our heart was saying,
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: and not what the eyes is. But see in this generation.
• 24:53
  Speaker 13: Because we see different type of people, different type of
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: this things. We don't allow our heart to speak. We
• 24:59
  Speaker 13: are come throw by what we see. There's every tendency
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: your MND be talking to you about someone, but we
• 25:06
  Speaker 13: tend to see the future of the person.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: You see what this associate everything at that particular time.
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: And I want you just say this that many of
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: the ladies I see today that it was young and
• 25:23
  Speaker 13: you were my wife, you might not have married me.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Is that the time I approached my wife at that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: time I was a teacher. That's right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 13: You see somebody who proposed to her that was already
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: a major genre in the army.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: You feel like the hold us her. Let's not let
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: this just pass like that. We need to We need
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to press it in because there's a time to laugh
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and there's a time to be serious. I think this
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: is one of those times. Let's pay attention and understand
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: something very interesting that we can glean from the wisdom
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: of well Over. That is something years of my life
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: rich because there's something our daddy is saying that if
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: we do not pay attention to, we might miss out
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: on it. Are we together now?
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: That is telling us that at the time when he
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: was proposing to his wife, he was a teacher, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: there was someone else who had proposed to her.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Am I right, sir, who was a major general in
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the army. Go ahead, sir, there's a lot you see.
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: Like I will tell you that my saver was afraid.
• 26:31
  Speaker 13: But all along she kept reassuring me that it was
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: not ches was interested but what the Lord was telling her.
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: And I had to ask you and we literally got married.
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: You see, I think that has controlled my heart all
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: throughout thirty years of relationship. It's see, whatever I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: to do to her our only thing back that she.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: She if it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: Whatever I am today, she's so things better than that,
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: and she sacrificed for me. And that's about two that
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: I'm going to make ever sacrifice to see that she's
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: comfortable to get.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Wow. You know, I have a very creative mind. My
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: mind works like a calculator.
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: You cannot imagine how many questions are already roaming around
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: my mind seeking.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: For expression.
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: But I want to try to narrow this down because
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: we're going to first talk about relationships.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Then we will go into the.
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: Home, and then I want us to talk a bit
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: about in laws and the influence of third party parents
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: relations on marriage and so on and so forth.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I think if we touch these areas, we can move on.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We can move on to other areas.
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: Doctor Jelly, Sir, what should a godly young man who
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: is serious with God be looking out for?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: In a lady?
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: Guide me, sir, I'm a young man. Let me stand up.
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: I'm a young man who has been to coin Onia.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I love God. I have listened to the messages, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: now I am considering settling down.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: And I come to you as a mentor and as
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: a coach. Can you please lead me from step A
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: to be to see? What should I look out for?
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: Should I dreams? Should I hear God? Should I just
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: walk to the lady? I mean, can you give us
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: from step A to be? Because I think that a
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: lot of people are confused in our generation right now
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: as to.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: What are the parameters. There are all kinds of books,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: there are all kinds.
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: Of conferences, and what someone is saying is what another
• 28:57
  Speaker 11: person is refusing, and they're all enjoying their man supposedly,
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: So the average young person is really confused, especially the man.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: To help us, sir, what should we look out for?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: All Lujah?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I think you're going to excuse me. I'm a very
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: shy person, so just excuse me that. Okay, I haven't
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: said that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I will.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Just to answer your question, sir, any young man that
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: is looking out to, you know, marry a lady or
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, looking out in a lady, I think
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: the first and foremost thing.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Should be the fear of God.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Can he sincerely say that this person fears go?
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: Okay, just hold on, sir, I'll let you continue. The
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: fear of God means what exactly going to church, praying
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: and tongues.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Well, those things are part of what year of God is,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: but it's not actually the route, the about the fast,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: the rood.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Thing about the fear of God is.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: That the person was be born again and seeks to
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: know God continually.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Then such a person trembles at the world of God.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, sir, I'm sorry, I have to cut it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: You will continue? Is it a negotiable condition to me?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: It's not because I think that is the care, that's
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the core of entering into a relationship with someone.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: That is what you are going to bank all.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: You know, into the.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Relationship, things will happen, and if someone does not have
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the fear of God? Is the likelihood is that the
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: person may take some decisions that that is not that
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: may be hanpful, may be handful. So it's non negotiable.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: It has to be the fear of God, as in sincerely,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the fear of God, not that probably you're not sure
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: or you know, the person has to have a few.
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: The second part of the question, sir, is are you
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: speaking about the requirements in order of priority? Is it
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: in order of priority or should the fear of God
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: be considered last? I give you an instance as you mean,
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: there are three points. We are talking about the fear
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: of God. Maybe a wealthy person and maybe a handsome guy.
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: Are we talking about a guy or a lady? Now, yes,
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: a guy is looking at a lady. So is it
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: beauty first? I mean, this is wonderful drop that beautiful lady?
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: Then haven't ascertained that she's beautiful?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I announce it? Does she fear God? Or why do
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: just close my eyes and say before I open it?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Do you hear God? First? I mean is it in
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: order of priority? Yeah?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: The other is fasting for the fear of God. Now
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the beauty thing and all of that is just the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: came as I see on the cake. So it's not
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: really I was even going to say, this is your
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: time that to me, love is a choice. It's not
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: really about feelings, you know, if the feelings calm, Yes,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: praise God for feelings, feelings and all of that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: But it is actually a choice that you choose to
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: love this person, whatever comes and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: So the fear of God will is.
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  Speaker 3: What would keep that choice for one.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: The fear of God would keep that choice for one
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: if the person eventually God forbid shows something for me.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Now it's.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: It's there's handly how you can. Because we have spiritual beings,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: we are children of God. If this person is not
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: well rooted in God, there's hardly how you can fellowship,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, how you can bond.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: That's how it is. You can hardly bond with a person.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: So the the other, like you asked, he is that
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: this person must have the fear of God first and foremost.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: The beauty isn on the cake.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: So your major priority is that when a brother is
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: setting out to really build a marital destiny, beyond and
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: above every other thing, there should be the fear of God.
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: Let me protrass a bit on that point, and then
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: we'll go to Pursua alpha.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very powerful point, mind you.
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: I think aside from me, all these people are married,
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: and so they're speaking pragmatically.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking by the anointing, a wur together, so diepople
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: are speaking both by the anointing. And I've had the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: privilege of fellowshiping with your families quite intimately, and I
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: can tell you they're leaving heaven on earth literally are
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: we together now? So this is very important. And doctor
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Jeliah is telling us here that the fear of God brothers,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you must pay attention when you are about to build
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a life.
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: Our daddy prof said something that I think is very instructive,
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: that they worked with your spirits, they worked with your heart.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: But our generation is so sensual, we're so canal.
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: The scope of everything we look at relationally is just sensual.
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: So you see a lady looking fine and all of that,
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: and at once you don't care what God has to say.
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: You don't care whether you know the lady's virtuous and
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: loves God. And that's why I had to correct it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Because the fear of God brothers and sisters is called reverence.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: For God, not just faith in God. Brothers, it matters
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: that this lady fears God. To fear God means to
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: sub me to his governing authority, to take his word
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: as the final authority over your life.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Are together now?
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: So the fact that the lady prays in terms or
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: comes to church is no guarantee whatsoever. What is our
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: willingness and maliability as far as the world of God
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: and the principles of the Kingdom are concerned.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: This is very, very interesting.
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: I truly truly agree with doctor Jelia because many people
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: keep making this blonder.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: They just work with beauty, and there's a place for beauty.
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: But it's amazing that many guys will be willing to
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: wreck their destiny. I personally consider it to be so
• 35:22
  Speaker 11: self centered when a man does not think of his children,
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: and all he is thinking about is I want to
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: satisfy my emotional curiosity by marrying a pretty lady, not
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: knowing what role she's going to play in destroying the
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: destiny of the children to come.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: A man is married and nine months later a child comes,
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: and for the rest of that marriage, at least twenty
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: five to thirty years spending on how many children they
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: have to factor in children in the equation. So I
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: do not see a reason why a man can be
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: so sensual and so canal and the entire scope of
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: your desire for a wife, someone who will walk with you,
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: not a degree that you just do for five years
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: and throw away the certificates. So that, I think, brothers,
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: I want to challenge on this excessive cannality, this drive.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: A lady's nice, she's this, she's she go it, And.
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: That's the entire condition that makes someone want to stake
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: his entire destiny the generation looking upon him.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Just I think that's really really selfish. Prayse the Lord,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: he's God helping us. Are we getting something here? Ladies?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: What does that tell you?
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: It tells him is going to speak a little later
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: to ladies. But I think that in my opinion, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 11: I may be wrong, but I think that if there
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: is one issue I have seen with the.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Ladies in our generation, is that our emphasis on the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: physica far outweighs our interest to deposit something sincere in
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: our spirits. There is so much crazy about the physical.
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: How I look, A lady can punish herself for one
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: year trying to slim down and look fair and look dark, and.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You know all of this, and not mind where that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: she's growing spiritually. We have a generation that is so sensual.
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: Even those who think they love God love God only
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: when they think they're okay with the physical. There seems
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: to be this embarrassment when a lady thinks she's spiritual at.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: The expense of her beauty. Now that's not to say
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: she should neglect that God.
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: Believe me, brothers and sisters, the physical does not compare
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: by any means to the quality.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Of a virtuous woman. Are we together? Now?
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: It's God helping us past the alphab Please talk to
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: the brothers. How do I know I'm ready for marriage?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: What should be in place?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Praise God? Okay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: One of my mentors will call marriage marriage age, and
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: then he said.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: The age differs from one person to the other.
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: I think knowing I'm ready for marriage is highly dependent
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: on your understanding of what marriage is in the first place,
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: because if you don't know what marriage is, you will
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: not know when you are ready for marriage.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I grew up being.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Concerned about this statement. Go for weddings.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You always hear it. They say it again and again.
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: They tell you that marriage is in school, that you
• 38:47
  Speaker 11: get the certificate before you start.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And the reason they give the.
• 38:52
  Speaker 11: Certificate before you start is because you're not going to
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: graduate for it. And I was concerned until God started
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: teaching me and and I came to a point that
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: my conclusion is that marriage is not a school, is
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: a workplace, because thank will have a lot of medical
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: adoctors here. You go to a medical school to study medicine,
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: and when you have studied all the anatomies and the
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: physiologies and everything that I study, a point comes and
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: you are satified to have learned everything that is required
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: to practice medicine. Then you graduate, and then you take
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: an oath, and then you start practicing medicine.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: So I believe that I am supposed to.
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: Go through a school of marriage, and my graduation is
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: supposed to be the wedding day where I am issued
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: this certificate that I've learned all that I need to
• 39:49
  Speaker 11: learn to practice now when I get MBBS as a
• 39:53
  Speaker 11: medical student, if I my going to school after that
• 39:57
  Speaker 11: is by choice, it does not reduce me from being
• 39:59
  Speaker 11: a medical I can decide to go for my residence.
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: See is that the colleague or go and become a consultant.
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: That's by choice. I'm already a doctor. So there are
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: basic lessons I'm supposed to lend. Number one, know what
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: marriage is from the perspective of the kingdom, and what
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: marriage is supposed to serve and the tools required to
• 40:20
  Speaker 11: make that marriage work. So I need to have that
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: physical maturity, and then that maturity in terms of purpose
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: in line with what God sent me to the earth
• 40:29
  Speaker 11: to do, and every other resource that is needed to
• 40:32
  Speaker 11: make that assignment work, including financial stability, emotional stability, spiritual stability.
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: All of this I would have gotten going through the
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: school of marriage that they are satifying, so that day
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: that I'm taking the oughts of marriage, I'm already ready
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: to practice marriage in the workplace. So I think understanding
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: marriage is something that goes a long way to tell
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: me when I should be.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Ready for marriage.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's very interesting. I think this is a very
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: powerful because it gets deeper now and I want to
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: pay attention. The average gentleman uses age or graduation or
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: post service life to be the signal that the next
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: thing in the calendar is marriage. So after service, maybe
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you get a job with a bank or a teacher,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and then there's pressure coming from your mom, your dad,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I want to see my grandchildren, and it looks like
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: logically the next thing is to settle down.
• 41:36
  Speaker 11: And he's saying something that is very powerful here that
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: nobody is authorized by God's perspective.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: To stand on that altar and exchange vow with any
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: lady who does not understand what marriage is all about.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: When you are about to take people to start working,
• 41:57
  Speaker 11: they have not started walking yet, you tell them you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Must bring certain qualifications. Is that true?
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: And then you pass through through you pass them through
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: an interviewer test, an aptitude test.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You short lead them to be employed, not to become managers.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Are together now, But when it comes to the.
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: Issue of marriage, there are so many people when they
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: stand on that altar and they.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Say, right now, we're standing before this and that they
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: do not even know what the man of God is saying.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: They are just excited. They can't wait for the marriage
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: to finish. They caught the cake and disappear. So I
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: think that one of the reasons why many marriages end.
• 42:38
  Speaker 11: Up as a disaster is that the man does not
• 42:40
  Speaker 11: even have any idea on what God's perspective is in marriage.
• 42:45
  Speaker 11: He does not know his roles are together now, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: that leads me to the next question, Jimi articulate what
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: the role.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Of a man is in the home? What exactly is
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the job description of him man?
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: For me, the man is number one, the first and foremost.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: He is the recipient of God's blueprint for that family.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: That means that when God has an.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Assignment, a task that he wants to achieve on the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: face of the earth, his default initial choice is a family.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. As such, the man
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: must be in a position to hear God to a degree.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: When I say here, I don't mean the audible voice
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: of God. He should look back over his life and
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  Speaker 5: be able to pinpoint cross roads where it was divine
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  Speaker 5: direction that got him to where he is. So, if
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: someone says why are you doing the job you are doing,
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  Speaker 5: or why are you in the profession you are doing,
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  Speaker 5: or why did you come to abu or after graduation
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: you were seven they said you can work in the bank,
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  Speaker 5: or you can why he should be able to say
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  Speaker 5: that God is the reason for my decisions so far.
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  Speaker 2: Very important. Then when God says that.
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  Speaker 5: This man has been faithful, one will chase a thousand
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  Speaker 5: and two put ten thousands to flight. God will now say,
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  Speaker 5: let me add someone to you that exponentially multiplies your outcome.
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  Speaker 5: Then he brings a similar woman who will not frustrate
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  Speaker 5: what God has already started in the life of that man.
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  Speaker 5: That means the man should understand his assignments to a degree,
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  Speaker 5: and not the kind of testing that cannot fit.
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  Speaker 2: Into his assignments. Not whether born again or not. The
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Bible says, can too work together. Except if he agreed.
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  Speaker 5: A man that has reached a level of spiritual maturity,
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  Speaker 5: maybe God can ask.
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  Speaker 2: Him to show everything. And then God is telling it
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  Speaker 2: to marry a woman who doesn't even believe in titans,
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  Speaker 2: even though she's born again.
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  Speaker 5: Now ask that man to wait until that woman comes
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  Speaker 5: into that level of revelation. If not, he will say,
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  Speaker 5: and it will brought themselves, will collaborates it that he should.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: So there must be some level of patterns of spiritual direction,
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  Speaker 5: because the man is the recipient of spiritual instruction.
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  Speaker 2: We see that from the Garden of Eden.
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  Speaker 5: Having said that, the second thing I believe that should
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  Speaker 5: be in the life of that man is a notable
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  Speaker 5: demonstration of responsibility, not a theoretical demonstration of responsibility, not
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: that he can preach about responsibility.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: As a woman. You are coming up that a man's coporing.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You have to ask yourself who else has this man covered?
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: God speaking to Adam, he brought some animals that Adam
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: should name. So Adam was responsible for a number of animals.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: So Adam had a track record of responsibility. Maybe not
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: to the level of a woman, but somebody should be
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  Speaker 5: able to point at you are saying this persis presence
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  Speaker 5: in my life has contributed to my progress so far.
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  Speaker 5: If a woman cannot identify a man who has contributed.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhat to the progress of others, that means she's the first.
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  Speaker 5: And we all know what happens when you do something
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  Speaker 5: for the first time from your is guaranteed, then you
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  Speaker 5: learn and do again. So has he been responsible towards
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: his mother? Has very responsible towards his father? Is what
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: his pastors, his church members, the people around him saying.
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  Speaker 5: Has he been responsible towards his siblings? That means you
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: can very easily accept your own responsibility.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So a demonstratible proof of responsibility.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: The thought is a man who is mature in terms
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: of dealing with ladies they say, fundamental difference between the
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: way a man reasons and a lady reasons. I don't
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: think it is advisable for if man's first encounter with
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: the uniqueness in ladies perceptions, that means you should have
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: been a leader, and you should have led certain ladies.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about sex. I'm not talking about sexual experiments.
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  Speaker 5: I mean a man who has had a track record
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  Speaker 5: of seeing ladies and adding to them, not taking from them.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: When I see a lady going to meet a guy
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: who is interested in sleeping with her, and then he says,
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  Speaker 5: I will marry you. I will marry you whether you
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: sleep with him or not. The mere fact that the
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: motivation is to sleep with you, you are in for
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: a shock after you marry a that man sleeps with
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: you and you're his wife, that's the end. So I
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: feel he will have a track record of understanding how
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: women behave have been said that based on the strength
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: of those three things, a man can say he's ready
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: to take on your wife. Number one a history of
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: divine direction. Number two, a clear demonstration of responsibility. Number
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  Speaker 5: three a minimum level of familiarity in the differences between.
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  Speaker 2: A man and a woman in terms of their mindset.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, you can't.
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  Speaker 11: Go aheadmazing, amazing, I think this is this is really remarkable.
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  Speaker 11: I'm trusting that God is really helping us to learn
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  Speaker 11: a few things. Let me just brotress on his points
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  Speaker 11: you see he made. It's very amazing how people who
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  Speaker 11: never work with God claim to hear God when it
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  Speaker 11: comes to marriage. They have no other, no table track
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  Speaker 11: record of working with God in any other area.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: They are lazy, their own pray all of us. Suddenly
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  Speaker 2: they come with boldness, and then they don't even seek advice.
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  Speaker 2: They believe that for the first time in your life.
• 48:39
  Speaker 11: The first revelation, the first experiment of revelation is over
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  Speaker 11: a lady and you come and intimidate the lady.
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  Speaker 2: And say, I saw you, I know what I saw.
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  Speaker 2: I was seeing that now.
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  Speaker 11: So Jimmy is saying, you must have the track record
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: because the way you saw the lady is the way you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Have to see other things in that family as you work.
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: So if you guess your way into our life, when
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: challenges go bad, you will have to sit down and
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  Speaker 11: wonder if you made the right decision. You will need
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  Speaker 11: that divine direction. Number two is responsibility. Listen, if we
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  Speaker 11: stop here and deal with this issue of responsibility, many
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  Speaker 11: brothers are irresponsible.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that masculinity is not equal
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  Speaker 2: to responsibility.
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  Speaker 11: That you are mutural and you wear nice drinks and
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  Speaker 11: you have beard on your face, it does not mean.
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  Speaker 2: That you are responsible. So many brothers keep fooling themselves
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  Speaker 2: and believing that they are fit because I'm toirty I'm
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: twenty five.
• 49:38
  Speaker 11: I'm toirty five, and I can come to church, especially
• 49:42
  Speaker 11: spiritual brothers. Spirituality does not automatically make a man responsible.
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: Responsibility is an intentional decision. Responsibility is an awareness of
• 49:53
  Speaker 11: the cost dimension of life. So you begin to look
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  Speaker 11: at life from a cost dimension. Not that it should happen,
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  Speaker 11: but you make it happen. Are we together now? So
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: we now say, buy swan water.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: For everybody, all our our facilitators should have swan water.
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  Speaker 2: A responsible man says, who pays for it? How does
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the money come? Not? Yes, we should buy it. That's
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: how people speak. That's how a wife should speak, Honey,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I think we need water for all these people. Then
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: a responsible man says, all right, so let's look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a budget for it? How do we work
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: when the man also.
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: Says, yes, I think it's a good idea. He's an
• 50:32
  Speaker 11: irresponsible man. You don't just agree we should take our
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  Speaker 11: children to this school. Beautiful idea.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's nice.
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  Speaker 1: No, who pays for it?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Many brothers do not think from a cost.
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: Dimension's shameful when you see many brothers moving and maybe
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: a lady wants to buy something and the broduct does
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  Speaker 11: not even think who is going to pay for it?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: She says can you pick something? And say, ah, why not?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And then he's just freaking. It's already a seed of
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  Speaker 2: irresponsibility in motion. Are we together?
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  Speaker 11: Let me tell you how you know you are not
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  Speaker 11: responsible When you have a non quenchable appetite for free things.
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  Speaker 11: You are very irresponsible and non quenchable appetite for free things.
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  Speaker 2: You are not ashamed even if they keep doing free
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  Speaker 2: things for you every day. Are we together?
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: A woman calls you an says, come and be eating
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  Speaker 11: in my place, and you do that for one week,
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  Speaker 11: and instead of you to say the next time I'm coming,
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: I think I should hold it two bout Yeah, he
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: said my mom. Yeah, again, you are very irresponsible, because
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: that's exactly what.
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  Speaker 2: Will happen you will get married to your wife? Are
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: we together now? And then you sit down and say,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: where is my food? Why is there one piece of metia?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: You are not working, you are not doing anything. You
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: don't know how it came many of us here, sincerely speaking.
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  Speaker 2: Our parents were like that. They still are like that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And the purpose of this is to begin to reorient
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  Speaker 2: our minds. Are we to get should they? Please? Talk
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  Speaker 2: to ladies?
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  Speaker 11: What is the one secret that has kept your husband
• 52:09
  Speaker 11: so in love with you? I know how much doctor loves.
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  Speaker 2: You so much? I mean, oh yes, oh yes, oh yes,
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  Speaker 2: So what is the one secret? Really? I mean, what
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: would you advise? And lady, what is the key to
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: making a man really love you? Not lost? What is
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: the one key? We are busy, we're visionary. So what
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: secret is enough to.
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: Distract us away from that purpose to focus on you
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: and become so addicted.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: To you and grow old with you? What would be
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: the key? Talk to ladies?
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  Speaker 12: Hallelujah? Well, I think, Sarah, even I'm going to say
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  Speaker 12: what you secret? It may be directed to him, because
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  Speaker 12: I don't know what he sees that keeps him so
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  Speaker 12: in love. Amen. But then I think I would just
• 53:09
  Speaker 12: say a little of what God helps me understand day
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  Speaker 12: by day. I think a man I think I believe
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  Speaker 12: a man appreciates a woman that will stand by him,
• 53:25
  Speaker 12: a woman that believes in him, Praise the Lord. It's
• 53:29
  Speaker 12: wonderful to marry a millionaire, it's wonderful to marry a
• 53:32
  Speaker 12: man that is working in an oil company, and all
• 53:34
  Speaker 12: of that. But what if he's not there yet, do
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: you still see him as the man? A man is
• 53:42
  Speaker 12: a man, no matter the level he is. A man
• 53:46
  Speaker 12: wants to always be a man. Brothers, I believe I'm
• 53:50
  Speaker 12: saying the truth, So it doesn't mean it doesn't matter
• 53:53
  Speaker 12: how much you're earning. A man must be a man,
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  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord. So as a woman you must learn
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  Speaker 12: to respect him, no man, how the level he is.
• 54:02
  Speaker 12: And then I also believe that a man, okay, like
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: I said, a woman that can stand by him, a
• 54:07
  Speaker 12: woman that is willing to support him. And these things
• 54:10
  Speaker 12: begin even from relationship days. It's not just in marriage.
• 54:13
  Speaker 12: It starts from relationship. There's an adage that says what
• 54:17
  Speaker 12: an old man will be we can't see right from
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  Speaker 12: when he's a child. From from the relationship time, we
• 54:24
  Speaker 12: can know. Do you hold him? Do you hold his
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: hands and say, sweetheart, I believe in you, and I
• 54:29
  Speaker 12: believe we can make this work together, no matter what
• 54:32
  Speaker 12: it looks like. Yes, yes, it's very very important our
• 54:37
  Speaker 12: ladies of today, Please, I really want to talk to us.
• 54:41
  Speaker 12: Gives a wonderful The Valentine cakes are wonderful, the perfumes
• 54:46
  Speaker 12: are wonderful. But please, just in case they are not coming,
• 54:50
  Speaker 12: it doesn't mean he doesn't love you.
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  Speaker 2: Amen, repeat that maybe with you, repeat repeat that part.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very very serious and I'm not apologizing.
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  Speaker 12: I'm not excusing brothers that are stingy. Please get me.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Right a.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, that was a free balance.
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  Speaker 12: It's very very important I say that I'm not excusing
• 55:20
  Speaker 12: stinginess now, brothers. But then before he begins to centift
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  Speaker 12: key into your account every month, or recharge your phone
• 55:27
  Speaker 12: with five thousand and recharge every week, please, it's important
• 55:31
  Speaker 12: love him first of all for who he is and
• 55:33
  Speaker 12: not what he has. A man will grow. Daddy once
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  Speaker 12: gave it teaching while we were in school. I don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 12: know if that passage should remember Aaron would remember. There
• 55:45
  Speaker 12: are things that we were still work in. You know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 12: we don't have all we're supposed to have now. But
• 55:50
  Speaker 12: then a man that has a focus, a man that
• 55:52
  Speaker 12: has a vision. You should be able to identify a
• 55:55
  Speaker 12: man that has a proposed a vision than just a man.
• 55:58
  Speaker 12: I think pastor who used to say that marry a
• 56:04
  Speaker 12: man with a vision and not just a man with
• 56:06
  Speaker 12: a television, because a man that has a vis will
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  Speaker 12: eventually put you on the television and you'll be broadcasted
• 56:13
  Speaker 12: around the world. I don't know if you understand it's
• 56:16
  Speaker 12: important you marry him for his vision. Of course, like
• 56:20
  Speaker 12: I said, I'm not excused our brothers, it's important you
• 56:22
  Speaker 12: demonstrate your love. And there, ladies, my husband said something
• 56:28
  Speaker 12: about the fear of God. It's the fear of God
• 56:30
  Speaker 12: that will keep you to be a prayer for woman.
• 56:33
  Speaker 12: You know, when we get married, we'll get to understand
• 56:35
  Speaker 12: that marriage, as beautiful and as sweet and as advertising
• 56:39
  Speaker 12: as it looks, is also a place of hard work.
• 56:44
  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord. I want to repeat that again. It's
• 56:48
  Speaker 12: a place of heart work. Yes, there are times you
• 56:52
  Speaker 12: have to apologize even when you're not wrong. So our
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: ladies that are arrogant, our ladies that are proud, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: don't know how to say sorry. It's better you starry
• 57:00
  Speaker 12: hasn't how to say sorry to your roommates even when
• 57:03
  Speaker 12: you do not make a mistake, because it's not all
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: the time. You may get the stories when you need
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: it and when you don't need and when you don't
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  Speaker 12: get it, you still have to be the good wife.
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  Speaker 12: You still have to make the good and the wonderful
• 57:15
  Speaker 12: dedicases and service. Because a man does not joke with
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  Speaker 12: his stomach. Amen, he doesn't choke with his stomach, no
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: matter my dad did have a welfare we know now,
• 57:28
  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord. A man does not joke with his stomachs.
• 57:32
  Speaker 12: As powerfully anointed as he is, he appreciates good food.
• 57:37
  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord. And I think I also want to
• 57:39
  Speaker 12: talk about this Lady elid to our ladies, it's good
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: to go to Pepsi guardian, it's good into me. I
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: think it is one of the worst things that has
• 57:51
  Speaker 12: happened to us ladies these days, because in me is
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: such a fast food and now we forget our our skills,
• 57:58
  Speaker 12: our recipes and how to cook eating and the actually, ladies,
• 58:01
  Speaker 12: I don't know how to cook. And then we just
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: sit down and relax and think we'll get a cook.
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: You'll get a person that washes the clothes. You get
• 58:07
  Speaker 12: the person that sweeps the house. We get a person
• 58:10
  Speaker 12: that baits your children and does everything. And then you
• 58:12
  Speaker 12: will also get a leader that will help you to
• 58:15
  Speaker 12: husband or wife your husband as well. In men, it's
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: very very important. The Bible talks about a wise woman
• 58:23
  Speaker 12: as a woman that builds her house, and that's what
• 58:26
  Speaker 12: brings us to the point again that marriage is hard work.
• 58:29
  Speaker 12: A woman must be willing to build building. If you
• 58:31
  Speaker 12: ask laborers that build houses, building is not an easy
• 58:35
  Speaker 12: thing to do. It's work. So you must take up
• 58:38
  Speaker 12: the job of a laborer and build. And you'll build
• 58:41
  Speaker 12: so that you can rest. With time, praise the Lord,
• 58:44
  Speaker 12: especially at the foundation level, the years of relationship, the
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: first few years of marriage, and as we grow. Sorry,
• 58:53
  Speaker 12: I hope I'm not exhausting my time, all right, And
• 58:57
  Speaker 12: that's it. And our ladies, we spoke about our good looks.
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: It's very important that we also look good. There was
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: the time I was about to go out and I
• 59:11
  Speaker 12: put on an attire and my husband looked at me
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: and said, you and this is your clue you are
• 59:16
  Speaker 12: coming again. I all said, what now, no problem, it's okay,
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: I said, what I followed him, because sometimes he may
• 59:24
  Speaker 12: not always just say it out to he said, And
• 59:26
  Speaker 12: I said, I was looking hargard, and I promised myself,
• 59:29
  Speaker 12: I will not wear that clothes again. And after I
• 59:32
  Speaker 12: dressed the second time, am I old king? Now find
• 59:35
  Speaker 12: you should look good for your husband. Praise the Lord, ladies,
• 59:39
  Speaker 12: it's important look good that he can't hold your hands
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: and freely introduce you to his friends, freely introduce you
• 59:47
  Speaker 12: to his business partners, to his colleagues. Not like one
• 59:51
  Speaker 12: message used to say, you just got dust one go back.
• 59:54
  Speaker 12: I don't know if Dad remembers that message he once
• 59:56
  Speaker 12: preached when when school. It's very important we look good
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 12: and we keep ourselves clean. The house should be clean,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 12: women of God, children of God. The house should be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 12: clean as much as possible. Thank God for air freshers
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: and all of that. And the house should be clean.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Praise the Lord inmen, Allelujah, amazing. I'm keeping our daddy
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: is silent because we soon hand the mighty to him.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: And he's going to speak extensively about the issue of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: in laws. And no one here has really qualified yet
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: to speak so much about in laws. We speak, but
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: he really is going to address that but I.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 11: Want to just air concern and then I let us
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: speak at random before we get to him.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I think this concern is what I'm about to point out.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 11: Two things have personally given me serious concern when it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: has to do it reconciling the reasons why marriages work
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: and why they do not work. I think I have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: seen an error in men and an error in women,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 11: and you just permit me start and then you pick
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 11: it up from there.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: The eraor I have seen is a transgenerational error, and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I think God is trusting our generation to correct it.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: The generation of our fathers people with due respect of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: our daddy's age, you know, and maybe ten twenty years
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: after that generation had a mindset. Please everybody, listen, Aur together.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: They had a mindset largely because many of them came
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: from the village into the cities.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: They largely sponsored themselves through schools. Are we together now?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: At that time it was not a fashionable thing for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: women to be educated.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: The scope of women who was centered around making the home,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: raising children and taking care of.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Them and taking care of her man. Am I correct
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Aur together? Now? So it was a pre vilege, listen please.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: It was a privilege for a man to now go
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: to school, get his degree and then come to the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: village and see the lady one of the many women
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: who go to the streams and now say I like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: this lady. She didn't have to bother. It was a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: privilege that a man was coming to the city to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: carry her. Are we together now?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: The definition of masculinity and being a woman was very
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  Speaker 11: clear at that time. If they said you were a man,
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  Speaker 11: the men, you were a protector and a provider, You
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  Speaker 11: were a farmer, or you had they were all your things.
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  Speaker 11: The man could do that, the woman could not do.
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  Speaker 11: So the difference was very clear. There was no business
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  Speaker 11: for fighting. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: The lady knew that she was not educated and she
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  Speaker 2: would not even get a job, so she had no
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  Speaker 2: business to accuse the man. You know again, the ladies
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  Speaker 2: were not embarrassed. Listen. It was never a thing of
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  Speaker 2: shame for the ladies to soil their hands to keep
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  Speaker 2: their home a wur together. You would see how the
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  Speaker 2: woman would own a shamedly fight to keep her husband.
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  Speaker 2: It was a commitment. That language has been translated among
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  Speaker 2: ladies in a generation now to mean desperation, which they
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  Speaker 2: hate so much. Ladies hate committing themselves in a relationship,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: committing themselves in a marriage to make it work. They
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  Speaker 2: interpret that.
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  Speaker 11: Commitment as desperation to mean, look, I have options, I'm
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  Speaker 11: too beautiful for this mess.
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  Speaker 2: Away together.
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  Speaker 11: Our mothers put their hands on the plow and they
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  Speaker 11: gave their best to their marriages. There were many reasons
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  Speaker 11: why they would live. There were many reasons why things
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: did not work, but they were committed. But right now,
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  Speaker 11: the average lady just trives it and once her definition
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  Speaker 11: of marriage and pleasure is not met, automatically.
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  Speaker 2: Begins to intimidate the man.
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  Speaker 11: Now, haven't said that that one problem of ladies has
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  Speaker 11: been their commitment.
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  Speaker 2: The commitment of an average lady to a relationship is
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  Speaker 2: very low. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: Where the commitment steps up is when he puts a
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  Speaker 11: ring and then she says, wow, That means I should
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  Speaker 11: be serious with this guy. And the guy for three
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 11: years has believed that this was his wife, but in
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  Speaker 11: her mind she had been working with the possibility of
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  Speaker 11: living him one day. It was the ring that now
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 11: solidified her commitment. Are we together now? But on the
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  Speaker 11: other side, something has happened to the men. Many men
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: are insecure today. They abuse their wives and children, because
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: in the twenty first century there is hardly a correct
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: definition of manhood and masculinity. When a man said he
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 11: was a man, he meant I could provide, I could protect.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, everything the man can do, the woman
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: can do too. Is that true?
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  Speaker 11: The man has a house, she has a house. He
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  Speaker 11: earns five hundred thousand, she earns one million.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together? The car is driving is her car.
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  Speaker 2: He's staying in a university quarters simply because the woman
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  Speaker 2: is walking there, and so his masculinity is being threatened
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: by her achievements. Are we together now? So he starts
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: saying things like I hope you know I'm older than you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't joke with me. I am the man here.
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  Speaker 11: Many men are insecure. That's why they threatened their wives.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: They stop them from working, they stop them.
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  Speaker 2: From having money. Are we together now? And this error
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: came from I'm sorry to say mother's here.
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  Speaker 11: I apologize, But many of our mothers, as a revenge
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: mission to the way they were treated by our fathers,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: they started counseling the ladies. Make sure you get your
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  Speaker 11: masters before you get married, so that no man will
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  Speaker 11: treat you like a piece of rag. And while that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 11: is supposed to be a good advice, that's created a
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  Speaker 11: sense of independence in the ladies. So they are embarrassed
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  Speaker 11: to look like, if I lose this man, I may
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  Speaker 11: not die, but a major part of me would have
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  Speaker 11: been lost.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: That shame to identify with the man and their marriage.
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  Speaker 11: So the woman is simply marrying the man to exist
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  Speaker 11: out of singleness. She does not plan to submit because
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  Speaker 11: she thinks she must end her submission.
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  Speaker 2: So if the cay is our own, if the house
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  Speaker 2: is at all.
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  Speaker 11: If the salary comes from her, she feels I should
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  Speaker 11: not submit to you, and this is something that must
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  Speaker 11: be corrected. I'm laying that platform because I want us
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  Speaker 11: to brotrest on it, this issue of submission.
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  Speaker 2: Why are ladies and barras to truly submit to a man?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: What is the fear? Especially successful ladies, especially ambitious ladies.
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  Speaker 2: I have counseled hundreds of people, and usually when the
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  Speaker 2: couples come, they sit before me, and you see the
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  Speaker 2: woman sitting down with arrogance. The car was my own.
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  Speaker 11: And when I'm talking, she's just knowing. The man is helpless,
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  Speaker 11: like it's cissy, like a child. He doesn't even want
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  Speaker 11: to speak, because he knows it can't cost him.
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  Speaker 2: He's staying in the house. Why are women so insecure
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: about submission? Please talk? Anybody really will allow our dad
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  Speaker 2: rest because we're going to really stop him a little.
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  Speaker 2: That's all for anybody. Go oh, please talk? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies first, Thank.
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  Speaker 12: God, I think Daddy you answered it. If it's when
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  Speaker 12: you first started, he said. Unfortunately, by the reason of
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  Speaker 12: the way some of the mothers have been treated, and
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  Speaker 12: so the ladies now make up their minds that they
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 12: won't be treated the same way. But I think wanting
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 12: I would have to tell our ladies today. Please, I
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  Speaker 12: stand to be corrected. It's better and it's safer for
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  Speaker 12: you to have your understanding of whatever you have, whatever
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 12: it is you have to your husband. Praise the Lord.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 12: I know I'm stepping on your toes. Everything you have,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 12: your car, yourself, everything about you belongs to him, and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 12: it's better he releases. He allows you. Now take charge
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 12: or whatever it is that he wants you to take
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  Speaker 12: charge of. It's very important. Remember the twitty for elders
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  Speaker 12: the Bible says something they cast down their golden crowns
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  Speaker 12: for the lamb. It's important no matter your achievement, you
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  Speaker 12: could be the dj of now that you could be
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  Speaker 12: the executive director of not paying whatever you are. Once
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  Speaker 12: you get into your home, you are the wife, and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 12: you shoult submit. The Bible says in all things. It's
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  Speaker 12: not easy, I tell you, especially if it's a man
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  Speaker 12: that now sometimes busses over you, unusually praise the Lord,
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  Speaker 12: and doesn't even want any form of glory to come
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  Speaker 12: to you.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy.
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  Speaker 12: It can be painful. But remember Jesus, he did not
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  Speaker 12: counted robbery. To be equal with God is the same
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  Speaker 12: relationship we most have with our husband. Whatever it is
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  Speaker 12: you have belongs to your husband.
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  Speaker 2: Women of God, amazing, amazing, hallelujah, Praise God.
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  Speaker 12: Whatever he has very My husband just added this, whatever
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  Speaker 12: he has belonged to you, I think we feel more
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  Speaker 12: concerned about.
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  Speaker 3: That in men, praise God, hallelujah. When I spoke the
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  Speaker 3: first time, I.
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  Speaker 11: Use the analogy of somebody going to school adversized preparation
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  Speaker 11: before marriage, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then I mentioned understanding the purpose of marriage.
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  Speaker 11: That didn't mention so many things changes that have happened
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  Speaker 11: over time, and the world will tell you that the
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  Speaker 11: only thing that is constant is changed, but I don't
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  Speaker 11: ad with that.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that is constant is the world of God.
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  Speaker 11: And civilizations have changed, but the world of God has remained.
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  Speaker 12: The same word of.
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  Speaker 2: God in the days of our Father is the same
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  Speaker 2: word of God. They are not called for a review
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  Speaker 2: of the Bible.
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  Speaker 3: It is the same.
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  Speaker 11: So that means even if the parameters of measuring masculinity,
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  Speaker 11: being a man and all that seem to have changed
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  Speaker 11: over time, if the world of God has not changed,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 11: then the world of God should be the final authority.
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  Speaker 2: If we must understand marriage.
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  Speaker 11: Sorry to say this, I prepared for marriage like somebody
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  Speaker 11: is studying for a degree.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to. I stopped a lot of homes.
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  Speaker 12: I try to.
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  Speaker 2: In a bit to understand women.
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  Speaker 11: I try to find out, Okay, I meet a woman
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  Speaker 11: that is recalcitrans forborne, and I discovered that they are
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  Speaker 11: not fighting in their home.
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  Speaker 2: The husband is a good man, is happy, he's productive.
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  Speaker 11: So I get close to the man to find out
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  Speaker 11: how is he handling this thing? Because I know the woman,
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  Speaker 11: some of them are my relatives. I know that this
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  Speaker 11: woman is stubborn. How is the husband handling So I
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  Speaker 11: get close, maybe sad and sometimes I'm studying, I'm noticing
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  Speaker 11: a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: What is this person doing?
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  Speaker 11: But after all those studies I came to a conclusion.
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  Speaker 11: My mentor as a husband is Jesus Christ. And my
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  Speaker 11: mentor as to what a wife is expected to do
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  Speaker 11: is the Church of Jesus Christ. So I look at
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  Speaker 11: what is the role of Jesus to his church. Whatever
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  Speaker 11: Jesus did is what is expected of me to do
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  Speaker 11: as a husband. What does Jesus expect from his bride
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 11: the church? What ever Jesus expects from the bride is
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 11: what is the expected of me. And then to betrast this,
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  Speaker 11: I studied Prohabs chapter thirty one. The description of that
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  Speaker 11: man looked like a very responsible person, because nothing was
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  Speaker 11: said about what that man was doing. The first time
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  Speaker 11: he was mentioned, the Bible says he trusted his wife,
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  Speaker 11: and because of that he would not see even all
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  Speaker 11: the days of his life. The next thing, they said,
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  Speaker 11: he's only sitting at the gate, and he is honored
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  Speaker 11: in that place. Every act of industry mentioned in Prohaps
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  Speaker 11: thirty one were attributed to the woman. She was the
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  Speaker 11: one that says the land and buys it. She was
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  Speaker 11: the one that goes and buys clothes for her house.
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  Speaker 11: She was the one that her can't is always up.
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  Speaker 11: She was the one that I was doing many things.
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  Speaker 11: The only thing we heard about the husband is a
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  Speaker 11: kind Many women have done well, but you are better
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  Speaker 11: than all of them.
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  Speaker 2: And the Bible still says that he's honored at the gate.
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  Speaker 11: And I kept wondering, and I see that man as
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  Speaker 11: Jesus Christ, Jesus is no longer on earth. If it
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  Speaker 11: is assignment, he has gone to sit on the room
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  Speaker 11: at the right hand of his father, and he's sitting there.
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  Speaker 11: We did here that he came back to come and
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  Speaker 11: look for money to give the church to Ducu said,
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  Speaker 11: so everything that is happening upon the earth right now,
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  Speaker 11: he sends the Holy Spirit to come and help the church.
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  Speaker 11: But is the church that is responsible for bringing all
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  Speaker 11: the results?
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  Speaker 2: Not so?
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  Speaker 11: Is the church that sho win soul? Is the church
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  Speaker 11: that you have dominion upon the earth? Is the child
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  Speaker 11: that is doing everything. But after the church has earned
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  Speaker 11: every of those things, the church is expected to, without embarrassments,
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  Speaker 11: lay everything at the feet of Jesus. If the church
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  Speaker 11: is a template of the wife, then the wife should
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  Speaker 11: not be embarrassed to lay her millions at the feet
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  Speaker 11: of the husband.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a caution.
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  Speaker 11: First Corinthians Torture eleven an order about said that the
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  Speaker 11: head of the man is Christ.
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  Speaker 2: The head of Christ the head of the woman.
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  Speaker 11: The head of the man is Christ. The head of
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  Speaker 11: the woman is the man. That means there is an
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  Speaker 11: organogram that should be in place. So if the man
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  Speaker 11: is a wreckly connected to his head, then he deserves
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  Speaker 11: that this.
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  Speaker 3: Woman should submit completely to him.
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  Speaker 2: And let me tell us this.
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  Speaker 11: I in my thirty and in my dealings, we got
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: preparing for marriage. Even before I concluded on who I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 11: was going to get married. God showed me the implication
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  Speaker 11: of being the husband.
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  Speaker 2: And what was the implication? The first thing he showed
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  Speaker 2: me is you want to get married? I said yes.
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  Speaker 2: He said, the day you get married.
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  Speaker 11: From that day, whatever the woman does, good or bad,
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  Speaker 11: I hold you accountable.
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  Speaker 2: Brothers, whatever the woman does good or bad, I hold
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: you accountable. We start the example in Eden.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 11: If it's the fruit, God didn't show but when Adam ate, Adam,
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  Speaker 11: what have you done? Even when Adam was still trying
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: to transfer the plane. That is why God said, women
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  Speaker 11: submit to.
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  Speaker 2: Your husband in all things.
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  Speaker 11: Because I am going to question your husband about what
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  Speaker 11: you did or did not do right in that marriage.
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  Speaker 2: So if your husband says, don't.
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  Speaker 11: Do this one, there is publicly a balance. Submit because
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  Speaker 11: he's going.
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  Speaker 2: To account to me.
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  Speaker 12: But the balance is that Christ.
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  Speaker 11: Must be seen as the head of that man, then
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  Speaker 11: that man deserves to be the head of that woman.
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  Speaker 11: If that equation is balanced, I don't think this thing
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  Speaker 11: is going to be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Imen, Praise God.
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  Speaker 5: I jokingly tell women that they didn't force you to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: marry number one, or suppose you want people that they
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: shouldn't marry.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: There's a reason marriage is extreme hard work. So they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: did enforce you. You chose out of many brothers, you
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: chose that person, Abbey. If you choose a goat, you
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: must submit to that go to No.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, I'm saying so because many people believe that
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  Speaker 5: submission is conditional, that I submit to him because he
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  Speaker 5: is worthy of submission.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's not a scriptural thing. You submit to him
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: because in God's divine order, the wife was designed to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: submit to the husband. So to somebody that you will
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: like to submit to, I'll say it again, maybe who
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: are thirsting you? Ab choose the world that you would
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: do was like to submit to Number two, Husbands.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: Are required to submit unconditionally to Christ. In a marriage,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: everybody submits, and it's was the husband that is submitted
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: to Christ? Was the wife that is submitted to the husband?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Submission doesn't come naturally. The first thing I realized when
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  Speaker 5: I was getting married is that marriage is supposed to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: be an opportunity for the fruit of the spirit to.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Be walked out practically in you.
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  Speaker 5: You have one person who is guaranteed to annoy you
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: at least two or three times every day, guaranteed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. As I annoyed my wife before coming
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: for Cornelia, I annoyed her.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: She practices love, joy, peace, patience, love suffering. God is
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: using me to teach.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Her that, and God is also using hard to teach
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: me that.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: So you must see marriage as an opportunity to become
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: a better youth.
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  Speaker 2: Did you hear me? Many people enter marriage we did
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: desire to make their spouse a better person.
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  Speaker 5: No, marriage is an opportunity for you to become a
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: better person. Very important that being said, we said beforehand
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: that you should marry a person who has documented proof
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: of Prioritif direction yes or no, if a person has
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: been divinely directed. The balk of his decisions should have
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: produced divine outcomes, yes or no.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Even this person has a check record of divine outcomes
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: them submission. You only repel where you believe you have
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: a better idea, yes or no.
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  Speaker 5: If the man are staging the presence of God, he
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: warned you last year, this is your friend, leave this friend.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: You didn't listen. You did something, It got fire. Teath
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: In now came and loved just said, don't worries.
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  Speaker 5: Well, God will make all things work together for good
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: the next time, before you you know, ask him sorry
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  Speaker 5: to my husband.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: There is this range, I believe so, Hospers.
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  Speaker 5: The refusal of your wife to submit is a question
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: of the clarity with which you receive instructions of God
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: and the competence with which you conveyed to your wife.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: I never saw a scenario where a divine man, a
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: true leader, being led by God, was consistently.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Questioned by the people that were following him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. Wow, amazing, Amen.
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  Speaker 4: Now, feminism is a very popular thing around now, and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: what these people are clamoring for is the equality.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Of men and women.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: And if you look in details into what feminism is
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: about personally, I don't really really think that it is wrong.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Now how people practice it, that's where issues can come up,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: And what wife said is because.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, what the man can do, the woman can do it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: What the woman can do.
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  Speaker 3: The women and the man who can do it. We
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: have women that are vices, we.
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  Speaker 4: Have women that are presidents, we have women that are governors.
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  Speaker 2: And they are doing well so.
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  Speaker 4: Mentally, psychologically or any other wise you can think of, yes,
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  Speaker 4: they can the equal. But then when you come to
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  Speaker 4: this that, as these have to do with Christ, the
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  Speaker 4: way God or that is is that the woman should
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  Speaker 4: actually submit to the man. Now, it does not mean
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  Speaker 4: that the woman.
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  Speaker 3: Is imperial to the to the to the man.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like maybe mad she just use.
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  Speaker 4: This analogy that the other year is a professor and
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  Speaker 4: he is not a VC of AB. The person that
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  Speaker 4: is the vicy of AB is equally a professional. Now
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that he is imferial.
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  Speaker 11: To the professor, but by the virtue of the position
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  Speaker 11: that the VC has, he has to submit to him.
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  Speaker 11: So as Christ promised us abundant life, that we're going
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  Speaker 11: to have in abundance and all of that if really
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  Speaker 11: wants to enjoy this abundant life, the woman has to
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  Speaker 11: submit to the man.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have anything.
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  Speaker 4: Other than this, then you can. The likelihood is that
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  Speaker 4: you're not enjoy about that life, even in marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. Amazing, amazing. I believe
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  Speaker 2: that God is speaking to us. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 11: We're going to touch on every area, but I think
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  Speaker 11: this is very I'm trusting that God is using these
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  Speaker 11: discussions to answer a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 2: Praise the Lord. We'll just talk on one issue and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll.
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  Speaker 11: Give our daddy Mike and ask him a few questions
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  Speaker 11: on in laws. I want to talk about managing challenges
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  Speaker 11: in relationships. Our challenge is proof that God is not
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  Speaker 11: in that marriage. Jimmy, you just start and then we
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  Speaker 11: respond very okay. The main fact that God is focus
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  Speaker 11: focusing on something I trust the attention of the devil.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, the absence of challenges is actually should make
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  Speaker 5: you wonder if you are really doing God's will, because
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  Speaker 5: whatever God tries to.
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  Speaker 2: Do, the devil will always try to frustrate. That. Being said,
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  Speaker 2: there are two types of challenges in marriages. We have
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  Speaker 2: internally generated challenges, meaning the challenge is coming from the
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  Speaker 2: husband or from the wife.
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  Speaker 5: Now those challenges, I personally believe that the leading of
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  Speaker 5: the spirit, yieldedness and the fear of God and sacrificial
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  Speaker 5: love can solve those internally generated challenges. Then you have
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  Speaker 5: externally generated challenges, things that you did.
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  Speaker 2: Not contribute to and you have no control over. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you get married and your child is delayed for a while.
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  Speaker 2: You have to press through that. The goal is when
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  Speaker 2: you get married, ensure.
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  Speaker 5: That the pressure that is coming, sorry's that if you
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  Speaker 5: can hold this might for me to demonstrate something with
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  Speaker 5: my hands. Ensure that you are positioned in such a
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  Speaker 5: way that pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Position yourself in such a way that the pressure cannot
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  Speaker 2: pull you apart. But the pressure us what pushes you
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  Speaker 2: together into God. And that would require a level thank you.
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  Speaker 5: That will require a level of humility, vulnerability. That's the
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  Speaker 5: ability to be naked and unashamed before your spouse.
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  Speaker 2: Men have to take note of this because we men
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  Speaker 2: are a much Absolutely, we are very mutual. When they
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  Speaker 2: say challenge, you want to go through it alone. And
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason for it. Women are emotion Now, if you're.
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  Speaker 5: Telling the challenges we have finished, that's not why I'm
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  Speaker 5: telling you this right, But the woman has built herself
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  Speaker 5: in faith will not respond that way.
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  Speaker 2: So you sometimes want to protect your wife from the
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  Speaker 2: impact of the challenge. So in such cases, accept the
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  Speaker 2: whole load, step it down like a transformer. Because you
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  Speaker 2: are a man. You have the capacity to step down
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  Speaker 2: that load.
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  Speaker 5: Then give us more because she said help me, and
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  Speaker 5: they's see how she responds to who a reader is Fathfully, little.
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  Speaker 2: May will be given to the person. So choose to
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  Speaker 2: be vulnerable and then manage that challenge.
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  Speaker 5: Because one thing people forget is that your marriage is
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  Speaker 5: a testimony.
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  Speaker 2: God has a point to prove with your marriage.
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  Speaker 5: Document the challenge, document the way you came out of it,
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  Speaker 5: and swear that because of you and your spouse, it.
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  Speaker 2: Will never be a challenge for your children or those
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  Speaker 2: after you. Wow. Amazing, amazing.
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  Speaker 11: So that means that in relationships and marriage, and I
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  Speaker 11: think we need to pay attention to this. There are
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  Speaker 11: people whose idea of God being involved in a relationship
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  Speaker 11: and marriage is that there are two perfect people and
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  Speaker 11: for that reason there would be no challenge whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that is true. Success is overcoming many failures.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now? So is. The idea is not
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  Speaker 2: to get perfection. That is exhausting and unnecessary. The idea
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  Speaker 2: is that you create.
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  Speaker 11: A system of reconciliation that fundamentally you understand that although
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 11: we love God, we are different.
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  Speaker 2: There are too many reasons, like Jimmy said.
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  Speaker 11: Why there can be challenges in marriage. He gave a
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  Speaker 11: very classic example. You're married, you love God, but your
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  Speaker 11: wife is unable to put to bed. Chances are that
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  Speaker 11: that irritation you start getting irritated with the same woman
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 11: you stood in the rain to ask out because you
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 11: have embarrassment coming from outside, but you are trying.
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  Speaker 2: To protect her from the effect of that embarrassment. A
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  Speaker 2: time comes, it tells on you and you cannot hide it,
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  Speaker 2: so that anger begins to translate into many things.
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  Speaker 11: Your food is not sweet, this food is too cold,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: But it's not about the coldness of the food. Is
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 11: that there is something eating you all. So the idea
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  Speaker 11: is these challenges are inevitable. Most people run away from
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  Speaker 11: challenges into a relationship that they hope does not have challenges,
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  Speaker 11: or leave one wife to another wife hoping to find
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  Speaker 11: a challenge free marriage. I think that all of them
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  Speaker 11: will agree that there are so many things that are
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  Speaker 11: not necessarily directly within the control of the couple, and
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: they must be able to immune themselves and say, look,
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  Speaker 11: no matter what happens, whether we are fault or not,
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  Speaker 11: we're not going to let this destroy our marriage. I
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  Speaker 11: wish we had more time to talk on this, but
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  Speaker 11: let's go straight to the issue of.
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  Speaker 2: External influences and that I would really like our dad
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  Speaker 2: to talk about this, and I want us to pay attention.
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  Speaker 2: I studied extensively about marriage from years ago, and they will.
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  Speaker 11: Say statistics the top three reasons why marriage is fails
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  Speaker 11: up the first being money issues.
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  Speaker 2: Were going to come to that, and the second issue
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  Speaker 2: being intimacy issues. And you know, but the third issue
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  Speaker 2: is in laws and external.
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  Speaker 11: Influences from families who have an idea that when you
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  Speaker 11: get married, they send two children to come to you
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  Speaker 11: and the husband is uncomfortable, or have a mother in
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  Speaker 11: law who just bumps into the house and says it's
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  Speaker 11: my son's house. You know, all these complexities they are
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  Speaker 11: destroying a lot of couple's. Daddy, talk to us, we're
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  Speaker 11: young people, what exactly should be the.
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  Speaker 2: Approach of a Christian in law? Your son in law
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  Speaker 2: is here and your daughter, and what should be the approach.
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  Speaker 2: This is to our parents and to many who will
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  Speaker 2: be listening, what exactly should be the approach? And for
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  Speaker 2: a young man and woman who are bleeding right now
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: because of the impact of what the in laws have
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  Speaker 2: done in the marriage. What do you have to say, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe if I will start, if the.
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  Speaker 13: Church really the wor is supposed to be to the world,
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  Speaker 13: to speaking at the every body was go to us
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  Speaker 13: in independence financials. You see you're married to laws that
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  Speaker 13: are financially independent. You have a sony law that is
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  Speaker 13: financially independent. I think we have a better work. That's true, yes,
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  Speaker 13: but you see where you don't have that. Then you see,
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  Speaker 13: I'll said the first thing I advised couple. You see,
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  Speaker 13: for me, as a father in love and for my life,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 13: I vowed in life that I will never depend on anybody.
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  Speaker 13: And I think that has been the secret of my life.
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  Speaker 13: See when I got married and I discovered you know,
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  Speaker 13: I told you I was a teacher. I shoulta in
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  Speaker 13: primary school, not an eleven that head, so I said, teach, sorry,
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  Speaker 13: in secondary school.
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  Speaker 2: And I know I have very leave resources.
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  Speaker 13: That day I used to tell my children and then
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  Speaker 13: they are so young they didn't know. The instance is
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  Speaker 13: that I didn't have money that I w work researching
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  Speaker 13: my podcast. Maybe I forgot a coin in one of
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  Speaker 13: the glass is that.
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  Speaker 2: I can use for the day and when the love
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  Speaker 2: to be out of that. But you see, even when
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  Speaker 2: I was suffering, I've med up my mind. I was
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  Speaker 2: not going to depend on my parents because I discovered
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  Speaker 2: one thing. But we just got married.
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  Speaker 13: My parents saying all kind of things to the family,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 13: and my mother would like to dictate what our we
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  Speaker 13: actually relate with my wife and other things. I say, no,
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  Speaker 13: I don't even want anything from you.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, just just to he said something that just touched me.
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  Speaker 11: Now I have had the privilege of counselling people who's
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  Speaker 11: mother in laws or mothers round the homes of the children.
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  Speaker 2: They tell how many children should come, they tell how
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  Speaker 2: much money should go. Is that true? Do we have
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  Speaker 2: people with these kinds of experiences? And so this has
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  Speaker 2: destroyed so many people.
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  Speaker 11: Ah, the husband is any this, the wife is ending this.
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  Speaker 11: They're a situational report that has to go to the
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  Speaker 11: father or the mother. They have to smuggle out money
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  Speaker 11: from the family to cater for the needs of in laws,
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  Speaker 11: and the mother said I suffered from my son.
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  Speaker 2: I most enjoy my sweat, and then they call the
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  Speaker 2: wife a witch.
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  Speaker 11: You know, the complexity around in laws and families are
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 11: too much, And that is I have seen families.
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  Speaker 2: Where I'm the first son. He is the first and
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  Speaker 2: only son. You know. I don't know about the rest.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: But then we have this, You're the first one too,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: so I think we can relate in a way to this.
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  Speaker 2: I have a responsibility. My parents are retired, both of them,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: and by the grace of God, as much as God
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  Speaker 2: has blessed me, I take care of them. My sister
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  Speaker 2: is here, baby, wave your hand, let them know you're
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  Speaker 2: here and enjoying life free of charge. I pay the
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  Speaker 2: price for everything. She's not married yet. Are you get
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  Speaker 2: to the point now?
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  Speaker 11: I mean, if you give her something for wedding, maybe
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  Speaker 11: a stubit, so she will just tell you to forward
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  Speaker 11: it to me to pay the money for all of
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  Speaker 11: those kinds of things. So I mean she's enjoyed and
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  Speaker 11: I have to take care of her. You see that
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 11: kind of thing. Now, The truth about the matter is
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 11: my getting married will not stop that responsibility as it were.
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  Speaker 11: Where then is the balance of my responsibility as an
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 11: elder son to my parents because they are retired.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: I cannot sit there and watch my mother die.
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  Speaker 11: But I cannot wreck my home out of self centeredness
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 11: because I'm trying to take care of them.
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  Speaker 2: Where then, is the balance? How much should a young
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: man pay attention to his family, the family he's coming from,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: as to paying attention to his wife. What would you
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  Speaker 2: have to say something? You know when it comes to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: you know, family issues.
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  Speaker 13: There's the principle that I always feel, see if it
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  Speaker 13: is adopted to work well for a family, like if
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  Speaker 13: you have with me, you have Hope said like Hope
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  Speaker 13: should not relate to me financial and.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you see, it's better I go through a Jimmy.
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  Speaker 13: I'll learn you to respect Jimmy very well, because I
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  Speaker 13: know if I break my relationship with him, nothing will
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 13: come out of it.
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  Speaker 2: But if I'm relating with Hope, I will certainly disrespect you.
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  Speaker 2: The same thing too. If the family of Jimmy is
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: relating to Jimmy and not Hope, if.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 13: They can get something from him and not through Hope,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 13: they will never respect Hope. So you see, we must
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 13: create an environment where the wild respect every member of
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 13: that what that happened to you?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Then with markets he said they respect for the whole family.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Did you get what he's saying. I'm telling you, I'm learning.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: This is a new revelation for me. Proph is saying
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: that to show how much he's interested in keeping his
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: son in law and his daughter the marriage working. He
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: would rather relate to the husband. Yes, she's his daughter,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: but if there is any major communication, he will be.
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  Speaker 11: Involved as a sign that his authority and his place
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 11: is respected. By the time he starts having dealings, whether
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 11: finance or otherwise, discussing secret things with Hope about a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 11: husband that does not concern this, she's already swing a
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: seed of discord.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: There is a participated going on there. I think that
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  Speaker 2: this is very instrumental and many parents should learn. Are
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  Speaker 2: we together now? If a jimi's well, his mom's going
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: to be with the lord lovely woman.
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  Speaker 11: But if his dad has he has to relate directly
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: to him and ignore Hop. Chances are that their communications
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: will be biased and that will build with time, it
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 11: will start building.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: Hate, tred and resentment.
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  Speaker 11: So that is giving us something really profound that he
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  Speaker 11: would rather go to his son in law to his own.
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  Speaker 2: Who has now become a Jumy's wife.
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  Speaker 11: So as far as girls organogram is concerned, her place
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  Speaker 11: as a wife is more superior to God than her
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: place now as his daughter, because He has given her,
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  Speaker 11: and the Bible says therefore shalle man, leave not go
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  Speaker 11: out for a while, leave his father and mother, and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: cleave to his wife, and they two will become one flesh.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing. Sam should in loss interfare with the happenings
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: in the homes of their children.
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  Speaker 11: What I mean is assuming Augushon and his wife right now,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: where is the place what is the access point to
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: which their parents can just bomb. We've seen in laws
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: step into wonder man. We've seen in law stepping to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: say you are mistreating my wife. And some can even
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: man carry the daughter back home, you know that kind
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 11: of thing. Where is the place of illness?
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Because sincerely in laws have destroyed homes, they have destroyed
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: families with your self centeredness and their bias. So where
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: is the place of this balancer? If you know, there's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: only one way to stop this?
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 13: He said, like ones see, husband and while have a
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 13: very good understanding and respect for one another, see the
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  Speaker 13: cover one another.
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  Speaker 2: This is my life.
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  Speaker 13: No matter who I'm relating with, I enlargement heart so
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  Speaker 13: that I don't see anything bad about you. I always believe,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 13: as a human being a lot of shortcoming, and I
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  Speaker 13: need people relate to cover my shortcoming. Not that you see,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 13: not that they don't tell me to be, but you
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  Speaker 13: see you can advise me at.
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  Speaker 2: The same time. See you respect me and honor me
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: despite those shortcomings.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 13: Now the same thing to you going to relate to
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 13: to your wife. The wife will relate to the ho
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  Speaker 13: here has a lot of shortcoming. If you don't have
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 13: a live your eyes were already.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. I think the world she is the negative
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: more than the positive.
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  Speaker 13: They said, I'm going to call my wife today to
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 13: care a lot of things about me. All the good
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 13: things I've done for actual's gon like legal to see one,
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  Speaker 13: but he's going to see one hundred and one things
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 13: I've done wrong. I think even in news, you see
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 13: the world reposed the negative another positive. I think I
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 13: was reading over the internet and they posted a picture
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 13: of one police rumor.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: It said she was able to.
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  Speaker 13: Fish out the terrorist group and stop them from carrying
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 13: out the operation.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: But nobody reported the case.
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  Speaker 13: But you see the case it's the instances where the
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  Speaker 13: terrorists succeeded. They talked so much about it, and then
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  Speaker 13: the person who was able to use about it, I
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 13: think they should have to move. So the war reposed
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 13: negative and the positive in the relationship, we are likely
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 13: going to take in the negative another positive.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: And why you said like, if.
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  Speaker 13: You're going into a relationship the large your heart.
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  Speaker 2: So that you say, come, what made you say?
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  Speaker 13: I say it is that fully speaking, no praisure to
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  Speaker 13: make you tell a relation of your wordy, your husband
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  Speaker 13: is rong. If you cannot tolerrated at first see a
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  Speaker 13: man of God, but see a very close friend live
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  Speaker 13: a man of God's that little bit better person to
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  Speaker 13: see than your Even if your father is a pastor,
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  Speaker 13: then don't see him because when it courmes that time,
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  Speaker 13: his mind must change. Yes, so you're relatedly that you
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  Speaker 13: are checking it. You should like if I give hope
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  Speaker 13: conversing Jimmy and does not allow me to see any
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  Speaker 13: negative about him, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Going to honor him an a situation. But the moment
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  Speaker 2: she allows me to see anything negative about him, then
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: you see, like you see, I'm such.
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  Speaker 13: Believe by nature, I'm supposed to tolerate hope more than
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 13: I think.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like that I tolerate.
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  Speaker 13: But you see, that's why you shouldn't find it difficult
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  Speaker 13: to live with other parents. You said that the medicine
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 13: better treatment from other parents than their parents.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: But the moment the people are literally because one has created.
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  Speaker 13: And I had a sub sport for people who are
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  Speaker 13: relations and those who are not our.
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  Speaker 2: Our relationship.
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  Speaker 13: And when we understand it that you said that we
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 13: try to keep whatever that is not going on well
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 13: in the family to our saft and if the pressure
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 13: is so much that we can be it, which you
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 13: see a most prejurely sound brother who would give us
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 13: godly counsel.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: This is that a counsel. And knowing instances.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 13: Where you have so much praisure and you meet the
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 13: man of God, he talks to you as if he
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 13: has lived there.
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  Speaker 11: Of the.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: Of you. And this is sometimes to like I said,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: relationship where you keep these things and you pray over it.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: This is I don't.
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  Speaker 13: I have problems with my wife very well, where we're
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 13: about nine years the marriage or so. In fact, I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 13: never knew that we were going to survive that price,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 13: But you say I kept on passing. I kep on freeing,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 13: and then you said I was I was sleeping, and
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 13: then I just I was carrying a lot by this,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 13: and then the dream that the Lord all of my
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 13: head and said that because we got from fire. And
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 13: then I saw me from about of one place. You say,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 13: after that, you see the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me a hat, very pure and clean hat.
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  Speaker 13: When my wife came and trust talking about the dishes,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 13: I was just laughing that I think.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: The hat the located for me. It was throwing dissolved everything.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 13: And see that we've never had any I would saying
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  Speaker 13: we never had differences, but we have never had any
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 13: differences that were setting our.
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  Speaker 2: As the amazing.
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  Speaker 11: I wish we had more time. But then on a
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  Speaker 11: final note, let me just we have to move to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 11: other issues.
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  Speaker 2: But then I think I want to point out something
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: that they have all said, and particularly Daddy Proof has said.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 11: I teach the school of ministry students, and one of
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 11: the courses his ministry or personal transformation. Really I teach
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  Speaker 11: on what I call the organogram of priorities, how that
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 11: a man must know the levels of his priority in life.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: And this is the templates that I give the students
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: that the first priority of any man is maintaining his
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: relationship with God, his submission to the authority of the Christ.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 11: The second priority of that man is his family, not
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: in laws, not his mother and father, his family meaning
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: his nuclear family, his wife and children, and on that
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 11: family priority is to his wife and not children. She
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 11: was the reason why they came. She's the reason why
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 11: they will leave safely. You're only there for ten twenty years,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 11: and then they will leave. So your organogram of priority
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 11: should be number one to God, your submission to God
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 11: number two, your wife number three, your children are we
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 11: together now? Then the submission to your assignment right, and
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: then relationships and other things.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Every time you.
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  Speaker 11: Break that rank, there will be trouble. If you exert
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 11: children more than your wife, there will be trouble. You
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 11: exhort wife or husband more than God, there will be trouble.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 11: So we need to get back to re arranging those
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 11: priorities again. There is absolutely nothing in my life personality
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: that can take the place of God.
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  Speaker 2: There's no point even ask a debate on it. You
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  Speaker 2: see that when I get married, my priority will shift automatically. Automatically.
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  Speaker 2: I still love Cornonia, I love everybody with all my heart,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: but the moment I get married, I can miss Cononia
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: to maintain my relationship with my wife. And I'll do
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  Speaker 2: it without praying about it, without firsting about it. There'll
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: be no apologiest whatsoever. I will make sure that when
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: I come for Cornonia, I come with my wife happy.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: There's no faking it. To come around and they say,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: such a humble man and a woman is saying this
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: devil of a man. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 11: It must be resolved at home before we come to
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 11: the pulpits. And then my children also, it's see, well,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 11: I didn't have the best of experience with my dad.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go into all those details. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have time. But I really plan to be an
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: award winning father, and every gentleman here should be pressing
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  Speaker 2: towards that I've seen. I've seen their children, all of
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: them here, I mean Hope and the rest of their
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: award winning children paston Alpha. We've seen all their children,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: award winning children, and these children were raised intentionally. It
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: was not a mistake. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: So I think that the lesson we need to get here,
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  Speaker 11: if I'm to drop two things, is the fact that
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  Speaker 11: the fear of the Lord cannot be downplayed in any
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 11: area of family life. Notice how they keep making reference
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 11: to God, the fear of the Lord, and then keeping
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 11: priorities right, praise the Lord. Let's go to finances. We
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 11: have to go to finances. That's really very important.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: We have to go to finances. I really had one
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: more question on married. Would you let me ask that question?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Is that all right? Doctor Jeales? Please help us When
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: a young man is on the process to get married,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: can you guide us from step A. I have found
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: a lady. What is the next step? Do I run
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: away with her? Do I meet her parents? What exactly
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: do I do? You know?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, after finding the lady, please listen, brothers, and there
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: is mutual concerts on the part of the two.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: I think the next thing is to.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: Get the parents involved, and if you can also have
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  Speaker 4: the concept of the parents and I think, I'm sorry
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: it may sound rang, but I think that's when the.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: Church can be involved. My own personality, Yes, that's when
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: the church can be.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: Involved the parents individual the parent in the church, and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: after that the families can come together.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Pick it did and that's okay. Wow, So that's the step.
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  Speaker 11: Once the people agree and they're happy, the next thing
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 11: should be parents, because I know there are lots of
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 11: pastors and churches who say ignore parents. If I as
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 11: the pastor refuses you no matter.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: What the parents say, it's nonsense, you know. So he's
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: now correcting it, and I think I agree with him biblically,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: the first and greatest spiritual.
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  Speaker 11: Authority ah in an ideal sense, there are exceptional cases.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Is a family you cannot go and begin to meet
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: a pastor and discuss on marriage whereas the parents are
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: not even aware? Are we together? Now?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: On a final note, everybody is going to speak. What
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 11: is your position on elaborate wedding waiting for an uncle
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: to come from China? Five million mirror? I mean pure
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 11: water customized is strangling a lot of gentlemen. There are
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 11: people who are ready to move, but this barrier has
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 11: stopped them. I mean, I know times that people use
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 11: one hundred thousand to get married.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Right now, what do you think it's an average budget
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: for a conservative in Zaria?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 11: I think you should not be talking of anything less
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 11: than one million auditorium balloons fixing everything?
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: So what exactly all of this this is? On a
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: final note, what exactly is the role of elaborate wedding.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: You know, is it biblical? Should we are? I mean
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  Speaker 2: why most we have to do all of those kinds
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: of things is they're a place for that? Is it necessary?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: Most a gentleman have five million to put on ground and.
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  Speaker 11: Have his house built by himself. Most everybody by actually been.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 11: Most they buysuit for the boy.
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  Speaker 2: Who is going to hold the ring. You know, all
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: these kinds of things. Where is the balance? So after
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: please take it and then we'll run it through, Praise God.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: I don't think it is right to be under pressure
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  Speaker 11: for a laborate wedding, Mark my words. I didn't say
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 11: that I've been saiding things in your wedding is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: That's not what I said.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: But being under pressure for.
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  Speaker 3: A kind of very elaborate do this?
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: Do that?
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  Speaker 3: Buy two suits the one you war church is different
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: from the one you wear reception.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: The two wedding gowns.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 11: And then the person doing the makeup must come from
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 11: SUSA and so place, and the make up must be
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 11: two hundred.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: Thousand and all that.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 11: There's nothing wrong with having it, but being on that
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 11: pressure for it is not correct. Let me use the
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 11: practical example my wedding. I waited because God told me
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 11: it was time. As okay, it's time, said yes, so
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 11: we agreed and then fixed date. And then I saw
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 11: certain signs the way my mother in law, who is
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 11: going to be with the Lord now, she was actually
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 11: the one that gave us the date and all that.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 11: And then in preparation I didn't have a job at
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 11: the time I got married. All I had was okay,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 11: God said this time, and then I asked him for
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 11: a proof. He said, all things already, and I was preparing.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 11: I wanted to do my traditional that start today morning,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 11: so that there will be no need to cook to
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 11: this the one for traditional one for wedding. So we'll
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 11: cook the same food parts for the traditional in the parlor.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 11: Then and then who said okay, it's the last board.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: They're not going to agree.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 11: So eventually, if you attended my wedding, it was a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 11: beat and laborate, but God paid for everything.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: No single pressure was on me. I was not at
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: the point somebody asked me, what suit are you going
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: to wear?
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 11: There's one suit I have. Are then't going to change
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 11: me out? Because I want an old suit? So God
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 11: does not provide it. Somebody called that was how my
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 11: mind was I made what my mind. No human being
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 11: on it was going to put me on that pressure.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 11: But everything we desired to happen happened, but there was
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 11: no pressure. So I don't think that I should be
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 11: under pressure to guess certain things. Don't write the vision and.
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  Speaker 2: Just make it clean, and I think, God, let's say
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 11: That is sir, elaborate wedding. What's your position on it? Well,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 11: we're just running through maybe one one minute, so that
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 11: we can just move quickly.
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  Speaker 13: Seriously, I always say that I'm a proud now nobody disappointed.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 13: You see when you come and detail you want to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 13: marry my daughter, and you see, no matter how godly
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 13: you are, if you don't have means of liveli.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: Truly speaking, the family be broken.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 13: Because that's the truth. It is the moment of your
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 13: wife stayed three four days and I'm not eating. She
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 13: never talked the way you met her in her family.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 13: So so in that much, I don't believe you don't
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 13: need to have so much money. But you say like
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 13: a pose man must be responsible.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: You should be able to feed your family no matter
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: how hard.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 13: Uh he said, the country is and at whatever time
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 13: once you cannot feed your family. I think, seriously, you're
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 13: not supposed to be married, So I think the first
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 13: thing if somebody is thinking of marriage is not that
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 13: you have kept so much money, but you should know
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 13: that you have tapped on something that you should be.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: Able to feed your your family and not just stab you.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 13: See, look, I may be very disciplined, I may not
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 13: have goodlow, I may not have good food. I can survive,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 13: but my children may not be as disciplined as me.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 13: And when I open them up, they may do certain
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 13: things that I'll find it very to go to uh
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 13: to control. And that's why we say, well, you see
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 13: the truth to a person who does not have the
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 13: means of life, only who can all rule his conscience.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether I'm saying the truth because.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 13: You say, like the true don't have means of survivor,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 13: people are likely going to rule your quation. Your judgment
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 13: certainly can can be distopped when you don't have anything
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 13: there are instantly you said that people are bowed to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 13: do certain things, not because they were wanted to, but
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 13: because the pleasure on them was so so much. You see,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 13: if you have your children and you don't have school fees,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 13: you don't have truly speaking, you may do certain things
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 13: that you don't believe you'll do that, and that's why
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 13: you see.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: The beat you said to be in a safer side.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: It's better. It's not age, even though you know.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 13: Psychologically they say at the age of twenty five, you
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 13: know like people lower than that in.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: The team age, they are full of country.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 13: And that's why you say, like, sometimes you say you
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 13: want to you want a tall person, sometimes you want.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: A short person.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 13: The mind is not stable, but at the age of
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 13: twenty five, everyone is very stable. At that particular times,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 13: even if you're not a Christian, you discover that your
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 13: mind will be more stable than when you are younger.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: And that's why you say that.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 13: Certain times they say, well, it's good that you attaend
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 13: a certain.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: Age before you get married.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 13: But you see, for Christians, even at the age of twelve,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 13: you've meet somebody I used to see that his wisdom
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 13: and knowledge it's about somebody that is ninety years old. Yeah,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 13: so it's it's ritually designed. It is that not true,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 13: but not all of us. We are all Christians, but
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 13: not all over out that drives that inspiration that he drives,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 13: and not all of us that we stand the praisure
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 13: that are opposed to will be able to distand and
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 13: you said, that's why if the Bible say we deal
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 13: with people understanding.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we're speaking. I advise everybody.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 13: You see like what we are saying relationships you see,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 13: attending to relationship you see seven when you see where
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 13: you love the relations of your spowers and you are
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 13: hard working, you have the material, so take care of themselves.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 13: Because you say, there's nothing wrong to take care of
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 13: your relations.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Of your spouts. It's only where you don't have the money.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: Is that not true that you cannot, But if.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 13: You have the money, you see, like, if I have
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 13: the money, I would like to train everybody in my
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 13: wife family.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: Is that not true?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 13: Yes, because if they are trained subtly, in future there
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 13: will even be the people that were issue.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether what I'm saying is making sis. Yes, so,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: but you see, financially you may not be capable. And
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: that's why I've always said everybody what buried.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 13: Had to be financially In the defending me, no family
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 13: should a family because.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: I believed God. You see to foods.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 13: Hated on the face of the art, they're giving him
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 13: the past to take care of his family.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: You see, he had certain virtues that is only.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 13: Him that that he's still to the family, and the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 13: family supposed to change the work through those prturees that
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 13: you received from God. But if it's not financially stable,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 13: he may not be able to stand on those things
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 13: and defend them. You've received this from God, you are
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 13: supposed to defend it. You are supposed to pass it
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 13: for your children. But once did you You see once
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 13: you are not independent, but you depend on other people.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: That then preisure.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 13: You know, they say, whatever that paid the piper dictatory,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 13: I don't know who gets. So it's like if you
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 13: have somebody right and you know as a family, whether
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 13: you like it or not, there are certain things we
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 13: must take from.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: That family before you so far. But if your family
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: is financially.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 13: Independent, you see, you can stand, You can guide what
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 13: God has given on to you.
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  Speaker 2: You can be able to tell your poc. You see,
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  Speaker 2: like I.
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  Speaker 13: Hope you say, I don't even given my brothers. I
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  Speaker 13: don't allow them to go there and stay maybe more
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  Speaker 13: than one day or two days, because I believe that
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  Speaker 13: I think pictures I received from God. I'm the only
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  Speaker 13: one that can pass it to my children and the women.
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  Speaker 13: You see, because you are not financially copable and we are.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 13: There are so many families, they have so many children, they.
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  Speaker 2: Cannot take care of them.
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  Speaker 13: They send them to other families. Sometimes see that those
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  Speaker 13: families are not godly and before they come back to you,
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  Speaker 13: see that they're certain things that would be strained.
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  Speaker 2: For the family.
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  Speaker 13: And if you don't take care of the other children
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  Speaker 13: in the family, that you spend time trying to bring them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, daddy. Amazing, amazing, let's appreciate Daddy.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go straight into finance.
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  Speaker 11: Just a few questions, straight to the point, Jimmy, why
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  Speaker 11: are Christians brooke?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? Let's talk about this money thing. Why are Christians brooke?
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  Speaker 5: Well, as a consolation, it's not only Christians that are
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: brooke or believers to a brook. But the apparation is
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: children are Christians are sons of kings, So why are
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: big brook? I think the first the reason why Christians
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  Speaker 5: are broke is because Christians have refused to recognize that
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  Speaker 5: they are responsible for their financial situation.
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  Speaker 2: That's the number one thing.
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  Speaker 5: Like you say, sir, something you know something you don't
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  Speaker 5: know is responsible for your current limitation. Something you know
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  Speaker 5: but you have refused to believe, is responsible for your
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  Speaker 5: current limitation.
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  Speaker 2: And something you believe but you have refused to consistently
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: act upon, is responsible for your limitation. So why are
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  Speaker 2: Christian believers? Why are Christians? Book number one?
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  Speaker 5: They have refused to take recognition and responsibility for their
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  Speaker 5: current financial situation. Talk to their bridge believer when you
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: talk to him about soul. Really he has a paradigm.
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  Speaker 5: He has a definite plan for it. Talk to him
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  Speaker 5: about marriage, he has a definite plan for it. He
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  Speaker 5: can speak with specificity. Talk with them about wealth finances.
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  Speaker 2: You start hearing all sorts of bigness, grandios, bagness. Do
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  Speaker 2: you understand?
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  Speaker 5: I put the post off recently on my Facebook and
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: I put the potal of three cards and I said that.
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  Speaker 2: You should choose one, and so we just put that
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  Speaker 2: and said, ah three. I was just laughing.
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  Speaker 5: I said, are you aware that this cause are costing
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  Speaker 5: not less than eighty million? The casualness which we said
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  Speaker 5: it made me know that they think it's going to
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  Speaker 5: come from heaven. So the first thing is a video
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  Speaker 5: to accept and recognize that is the responsibility. The second
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  Speaker 5: reason why Christents are broken. In my opinions, listen, listen,
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  Speaker 5: are we getting blessed? I might stay with you place.
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  Speaker 5: I want us to all pay attention.
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  Speaker 2: We just wrap this up shortly. But we may not
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  Speaker 2: have the time.
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  Speaker 11: I took for granted that we may not really have
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  Speaker 11: the time to discuss this much. But I think the
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  Speaker 11: two issues we're talking about is really very very serious,
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  Speaker 11: and I want us to pay attention, especially on our
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  Speaker 11: finances even as we talk about this. So Jimmy is
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 11: talking about why Cristians are broken.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, he says, lack of recognition that they are
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  Speaker 2: responsible for their financial destiny. Go ahead. The reason I
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  Speaker 2: say this size go to those in Genesis one, verse
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine that we should we should multiply.
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  Speaker 5: That's not this suggestion, It's a command it and many
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  Speaker 5: Christians have not accepted it.
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  Speaker 2: And owned it as a commandment.
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  Speaker 5: The second reason I believe is a proverty mindset, especially
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: Christians in Africa, we were conditioned we live in such
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  Speaker 5: abject poverty, that's sub consciously we have accepted it. If
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  Speaker 5: you talk to an American, they are certain things they
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: take for granted, good roots houses.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: Why because they are exposed to some levels of wealth.
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  Speaker 5: So because we live in Africa, we have subconsciously been
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: conditioned to accept proverty as a default state. And this
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: proverty mindset display itself in different ways. Number One in
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: criticism in discomfort. When you talk about wealth, the average
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  Speaker 5: Christians talk many things. You will see that just let
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  Speaker 5: them see a pastor in Egypt. They are first default response.
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  Speaker 2: Is criticism or discomfort. And the truth of life is
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  Speaker 2: whatever you criticize, your mind shuts you away from it.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: And because we are critical, uncomfortable with you don't care
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: to ask questions. You just shut your mind. So that's
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: that's a very real reason we are being conditioned to
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: be critical of wealth. And then the last thing I
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: believe is.
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  Speaker 5: Financial illiteracy, a lack of understanding of the rules of wealth.
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  Speaker 2: And there is not what they qualified.
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  Speaker 5: The average wealthy person is selfish and stingy, or he
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: believes you don't honor his sacrifice, so he will not
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  Speaker 5: be predisposed to helping you. So we don't have that
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  Speaker 5: attitude that can attract those who can help us and
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 5: teach us how to become wealthy. So lack of recognition
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  Speaker 5: of poverty mindset, financial.
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  Speaker 2: Literacy, yes, dots please can you brotress on it? Why
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  Speaker 2: are Chris then support We really need to deal with this.
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  Speaker 11: I mean I personally, I'm concerned about the way very
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  Speaker 11: well meaning Christians who love God past us so many people.
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  Speaker 11: You know, this poverty thing is terrible. People are prayed
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  Speaker 11: about it, faster about it.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem to go why are people really poor?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, dealt very well with this, but I would just
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  Speaker 4: want to add that I think one other things that
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  Speaker 4: Christians do is it's so much of all of this responsibility,
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  Speaker 4: financial responsibility on God and not on themselves. That there's
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  Speaker 4: the place of God, no doubt about that. Opening the
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  Speaker 4: windows of heaven will be blessing.
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  Speaker 3: Coming down and all of that.
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  Speaker 4: But then there has to be something in your own
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  Speaker 4: hand that God has to bless Now, if you don't
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  Speaker 4: have something that God will blessed, he might as well
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: be looking at you, you know. And so we should
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  Speaker 4: not under estimate our paths in at time with God
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  Speaker 4: to see that we are blessed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, amazing.
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  Speaker 11: My body is already itching me now. He just said
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  Speaker 11: something that is forcing me to have to speak. I
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 11: plan to keep quiet and just let them talk on
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  Speaker 11: this issue. But now that it has come out. They
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 11: made a statement that was very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Why are Christian's poor?
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  Speaker 11: And Jimmy said something that is very important. We call
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  Speaker 11: this the law of recognition.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, it is very important, right, I have passion to
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  Speaker 2: let us get this before we begin to pray. The
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  Speaker 2: law of recognition states that everything is available, but you
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: need to be aware of its presence. Way before gravity
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  Speaker 2: was discovered.
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  Speaker 11: What we call discovery is simply an awareness of a
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  Speaker 11: reality that has always been there. When it becomes aware
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  Speaker 11: to you, then we call it discovery hour together.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so many believers are not even.
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  Speaker 11: Aware that they are responsible for their financial destinies.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: Then he made a point that was very interesting, the
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  Speaker 2: conditioning of our minds. Every time I mentioned the world rich,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: well million, prosperity for many of us here, what I
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: just said is deception, froud, wickedness, canality. That's what you heard.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: Are you see that now? So we have.
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  Speaker 11: Conditioned our mind to associate wealth with the negative. Once
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  Speaker 11: you see a wealthy person, you just say, are all
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  Speaker 11: these young people who are rich they are four one
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  Speaker 11: nine ers or they are they're some kind of bad
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  Speaker 11: people or their drug dealers.
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  Speaker 2: You know. So until that conditioning changes. And then he
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: said something number three, which is very important, lack of
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  Speaker 2: the understanding of the laws.
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  Speaker 11: Everybody say financial prosperity self to me has laws.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: One more time say financial prosperity has laws.
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  Speaker 11: And then doctor Jelli, I just hit it with the nail.
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  Speaker 11: He said, we leave everything to God. Bishop Wereco said something.
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  Speaker 11: He said, any Christianity, any practice of Christianity that makes
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  Speaker 11: God absolutely responsible for the outcome of your life, it's
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 11: an irresponsible Christianity. So there are so many believers, and
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  Speaker 11: I say this with it by us to Northern Christians,
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  Speaker 11: we have this mindset.
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  Speaker 2: How can they allie Asheria? Are we together? Now?
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  Speaker 11: The Northern conservative Evangelical Christianity has.
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  Speaker 2: Made us to kick prosperity out. Are we together?
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 11: So we hate it, we resent it, and we think,
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  Speaker 11: if God should bless me, then he has the power
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  Speaker 11: to bless me. The cattle on a thousand he will
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  Speaker 11: belongs to God, and then we don't do anything about it.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: So that's really very important, because I said this sincerely.
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  Speaker 2: Many of us sitting here outside and the thousands of
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: people following online are victims of this. So we sit
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  Speaker 2: down and wish what we resent and we don't have it,
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: and we're angry, and we're saying, Lord, I.
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  Speaker 11: Don't understand why I am serving you, I'm praying and
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 11: so on and so forth. So he said something, and
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 11: I want to pick it from there. Doctor Jelly said,
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  Speaker 11: we have a role. I call it a partnership, and
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  Speaker 11: I want you to brothress. Please, what exactly is the
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  Speaker 11: role of God in a man's finances?
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  Speaker 2: And what is our own ers off? I can you
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: take it from there? Please? What exactly is the role
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: of God? Where does God play the part? And where
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: do we come in praise God? One of the just
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  Speaker 2: one minute, we'll take two to to minutes in one
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  Speaker 2: of the very popular pictures.
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  Speaker 11: When it comes to that, Christians used to put all
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 11: the responsiblities on God. Is the issue of type in
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 11: Malachi three, verse ten, bring you all the tides into
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  Speaker 11: my into the house that they may be meeting the storehouse.
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  Speaker 11: Prove me here with if I will not open the
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  Speaker 11: windows of heaven, and believe I see the windows of
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  Speaker 11: heaven as one day, maybe twelve midnight, at the time
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 11: embody sleeping, they will just come out and some dollars
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 11: will be falling.
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  Speaker 3: He offers, the windows of heavens.
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  Speaker 11: And he gives you ideas, He gives you favor, He
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 11: gives you opportunities, and it is your responsibility to prepare
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  Speaker 11: so that you can maximize the opportunity when it comes.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 11: For example, I started preparing for what I'm doing a
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 11: long time ago. I sat because somebody like me is
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 11: a victim of this kind of message, kind of Christian
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 11: baganda come from the fight.
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  Speaker 3: Anything that has to do with financial prosperity and all that.
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  Speaker 11: So I got to start lending some of these things
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 11: myself at a very late aage. And when I discovered
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 11: that my financial wellbeing is tied to my assignment and
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 11: life is part of my being acceptable to go, part
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 11: of my hearing from God will or the good of
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 11: it service servants.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: So I tied it into everything I was doing.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 11: And I started preparing when I discovered that this is
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 11: the primary thing that God wants me to do, and
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 11: every other aspects of my lifting is connected to this
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 11: thing that I'm doing.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: So I started.
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  Speaker 11: Preparing so that aspect of preparing for the opportunities that
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 11: God bring is an aspect that the Christian body is neglecting.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: So you see that God can open the door for example,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: HM posted something recently.
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  Speaker 11: Cardnostic government brought out a master plan of five years
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 11: what they want to do, and Jimmy said, download and
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  Speaker 11: read carefully for opportunities may be in it. I don't
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 11: know how many people saw it. I've downloaded it. I'm
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 11: for doing it because there are opportunities in it. I
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 11: heard the message recent somebody calculated the amount of money
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 11: within to us circumference of cardnostics and the run into
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 11: trillions of narror. And the question you asked is how
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 11: much of this will get into your hand? And how
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 11: much of it will get into your hand is the
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 11: value that you have prepared yourself to contribute to this system?
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: Because money is not created.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 11: They change hand, and they change hand based on your
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 11: contribution to the sustainability.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: Of the system. That's well, thank you, amazing, amazing.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 11: Now allowed that I will come to him again Jamaica,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 11: and you take it from there. Now that we agree
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 11: that there are spiritual laws, there are physical laws, please
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 11: help the people because I believe the question many people
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 11: are asking is okay.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a tighter, I'm not getting anything. Is there more
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: to this? Because many of we personals have taught people,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: once you tie the general message about financing the body
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: of crisis.
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  Speaker 11: If you want to be rich, tie and give, go
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 11: to bed, things to work. What's your opinions are? Very quickly,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 11: please two minutes. Let's write to walk very quickly. On
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 11: typing and on giving. There's a reason why pastors tend
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 11: to emphasize it. That's because the office of the pastor
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 11: benefits from typing and offering. I would say that very critically.
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  Speaker 5: But the pastor is offering spiritual value on a consistent basis.
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  Speaker 2: We are here, you are getting something, yes or no.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: You are getting inspiration, both miracles.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 5: You don't mechandize it because it came from God, but
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 5: certain aspects of it you demonstrate your gratitude via your substance.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: That is exactly what God expects every believer to do.
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  Speaker 5: Offer a value, offer a service of a product that
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 5: will be of such high value that you can exchange it.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: But what Christians want.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: Is to collect without discussing what they will give. I
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: need to let us know that our prosperity is tied
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 5: to our offering. Offering does not mean offering in churche.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 5: Your offering is what you have to offer. Please, let's
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 5: say that my offering is what I have to offer
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 5: that number one reason.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: So the question is what do I have to offer?
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  Speaker 5: The first inside my opinion is your defined assignment, the
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 5: reason why you were created.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: What problem did God puts you on earth to solve?
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 5: And it is always three foot a spiritual problem and
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: the circular problem and the transformation a problem. The problem
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: is we focus only on the spiritual. Has the Internet blessed? Anybody?
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yes? Has motor vehicles blessed? Anybody? Yes? Has electricity blessed anybody? Yes?
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: This mic blessing somebody? Yes? To God, all things come
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: from Him. So the first question is what has God
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: put in me? Right?
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 5: That is an assignment for me to establish on the earth.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 5: The second thing is what am my god giving abilities?
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 5: So first, what is my god giving assignment or my
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 5: god giving task? The second what is my god giving
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 5: ability or my god giving too?
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly? The first one is only revealed.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 5: In the place of encounter, burning bush experience, where God
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 5: tells you what he have that I use the story
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 5: of Moses. You realize that Moses, at age forty, realized
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: that he had the call of greatness to Libritt the Israelite,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: and then he goes and he separates and Egyptian bullying
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 5: an Israelite and accuse him. And then he says, to
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: is a life and he says, why are you guys fighting?
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: Sad thing? That they would know that God has called
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: him to be a deliverer. And they asked him a question,
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: who made you a ruler and a George? Who ows?
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 5: If you encounter wealth, if your quest for wealth, it
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 5: will ask you who made you a ruler and a George?
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 5: It is the god of the born in bush that
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 5: you will go back and say, there's a spirit called mammon.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: So you have to have that encounter where you settle
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: it with God and God says, I am giving you x,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: y Z so so so assignment. Then you can still
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: lift up your.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 5: Heads or you get a relifted up at that being
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 5: said sir, the place of your God given assignment, your
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 5: God giving tools.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: Then your passion, your purpose. And then the second one
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: I will talk about is your portfolio. Extremely important. Your portfolio.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 5: You will never a mass well if you don't have
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 5: this system that leverages and grows money for you.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: When you are not there. If you intend to work
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: for every penny, you will work. And we don't have
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: people that work for forty years. They retire and it
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: looks as if they never worked, because God didn't design
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: it like that. Look at Abraham.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: Anytime God is talking about well, he talks about Cato,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 5: the ability you just go mats one male and one
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 5: female and it brings without you necessarily being.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: Responsible for that multiplication process. You must have a portfolio.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 5: You must have a system that grows bi land for
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 5: agricultural purposes, or land for real estate purposes, or land
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 5: for mining and extractive purposes.
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  Speaker 2: Bat financial markets, stocks, portfolios, currencies. Good.
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  Speaker 5: Gradually you begin to save and last, listen, you must
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  Speaker 5: have a clear cut understanding of these five things number one,
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  Speaker 5: how to end, number two, how to spend number three,
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  Speaker 5: how to save number four, how to borrow number five?
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  Speaker 2: How to invest?
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  Speaker 5: I believe personally, every believer shall have a medium understandid
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  Speaker 5: of these five things. How to earn, how to spend,
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  Speaker 5: how to see, how to follow, how to wow?
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  Speaker 2: Amazing? Are you learning something true? Literally, brothers and sisters,
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  Speaker 2: there's no magic about well, all those all those foolish
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  Speaker 2: things we do around in church, we just mock ourselves
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  Speaker 2: for nothing. There is a very powerful paradigm very straight
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  Speaker 2: to the point. Let me allow doctor and his wife
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  Speaker 2: to respond on this. Now he is talking about that
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: there is more aside from tything and giving. Uh, there's
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: the place of value. Please take it from there, sir, the.
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  Speaker 3: Place of value.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I think I'm reading a book presently, and the
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 4: book is the outliers.
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  Speaker 3: And there are two two very important.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: Well maybe I should your summarize the whole thing about
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 4: the book just two points. And one of them is
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 4: the place of excellence, and the other is the place
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: of time and chance happening to them all in other words,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: the lines falling into one in pleasant places. Now where
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: we've been saying that we need to okay, the part
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 4: of God one's side opens, the heavens and all of that.
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  Speaker 3: But on one side, excellent side, whatever it is.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: That won't do whatever I want.
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  Speaker 3: Like one's hand finds to do once you do it
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  Speaker 3: with nights once should be excellent at it.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever is what it is, and that is what we
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: create value for what what what one has to offer,
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 4: like you said, offering, that is what we create value
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  Speaker 4: for what you are offering, and that's what may will
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  Speaker 4: pay for.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. So.
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  Speaker 11: The what can you say about it, the concept of value,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 11: it's not let's let's do.
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  Speaker 2: Mystify this thing. I know we're out of time, Thank God,
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  Speaker 2: yea thing.
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  Speaker 12: I would like to say it specifically for some of us,
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  Speaker 12: our ladies. I think I don't think we should be
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  Speaker 12: afraid of starting small, no matter how little it is.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 12: It's good to have a big plan, it's good to
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  Speaker 12: drink big and all of that. But no matter what
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  Speaker 12: it is you have, what is that small thing you have?
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 12: Like Elishah told the widow, what do you have? And
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 12: then she said she had oil? And she kept point
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 12: and point, but there had to be something very small.
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  Speaker 12: What is that little thing in your hands? You can
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 12: plant hair, you can you can steal clothes, you can net,
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  Speaker 12: you can sell bags or pure whateven. If it's twenty
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  Speaker 12: in era, you're making on each With time, it will grow.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 12: God rewards diligence. It's wonderful to work in a bank,
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 12: it's one or two. It's wonderful to have a federal
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 12: govern made appointment, it's wonderful to work in the city,
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 12: and all of that. But before those ones come, there
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 12: should be something in our hands that is working for us.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 12: The Bible says something about the proverb said to one
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 12: woman that she seeks out wool and flats and developed
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  Speaker 12: seats with willing hands. Wool and flats are raw materials,
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 12: so it's important for us to identify those things that
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  Speaker 12: look in there, that look like the cood states. They
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 12: look raw, they don't look fanciful, they don't look attractive,
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  Speaker 12: but then with willing hands they can become beautifully finished products.
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  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're itaching to answer. Okay, so you just say
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  Speaker 2: something two minutes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I won't say something. I started doing business when
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 5: I was on campus. I was making and selling shets.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 5: So I want to say that for those who are
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  Speaker 5: lucky fortunately to be insulated by the campus environment, this
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 5: is a good time to start practicing. Not because of
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 5: the income, no, but because of the transformation that will
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 5: happen to you as you begin to master the laws
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 5: of business. Most people, the reason why you should start
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 5: small is not don't despite starting small. It's not about
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 5: the profit of starting small. It's about the things you
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 5: will learn customer relations. Do you unders so that when
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  Speaker 5: God brings you to your next level the same way
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 5: just stood in front of Pheroh and after he had
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 5: explained it wasn't his first time of interpreting the dream.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: He had been interpreting more small dreams for more more people.
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  Speaker 2: So the moment is to be for Pharu.
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  Speaker 5: That competence wasn't deniable. He just knew, Okay, this is
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 5: a king. I have to package it to be fit
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 5: for a king. But the same competence. So let's focus
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  Speaker 5: on doing business for the transformations that will happen to
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 5: us as a result of doing business, so that the
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  Speaker 5: day God brings you into a bigger opportunity like proportion,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 5: you just flick and drug and you'll.
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  Speaker 2: Be able to do the exact same thing on a
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  Speaker 2: bigger scale. Which is why I always tell people, whatever
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: it is, just start small and focus on the transformations
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  Speaker 2: that will occur to you as well. Amazing. Please, I
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: want everybody to write this down, very quickly. Write this down.
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  Speaker 11: The concept of something for nothing does not exist in
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 11: the realm of finances.
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  Speaker 2: Please write it and understand it once and for all.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 11: The concept of something for nothing is the illusion we
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 11: drive ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: In church. The body of Christ has been brainwashed into
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: believing God is an errand boy who is forced to
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: bring money to us to show he died for us,
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: and we have the laziest set of people as believer us,
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: we have the most less I mean those who are
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: very backward in innovation with the ideas, concepts. You know,
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: he talked about excellence all of these things. Listen.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 11: The concept prosperity works on the law of exchange, the
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 11: law of reward.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now? So that's what I want us
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  Speaker 2: to write. The concept of nothing for.
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  Speaker 11: Something for nothing does not exist in the table of greatness.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 11: Everybody must bring something. You must bring something upon that
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 11: table and then partake of the wealth upon that table.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 11: Having said that, please, I want to reconcile something. The
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 11: Bible says through wisdom is a house built, not through favor.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 11: When you tithe, watch this, when you tie and you
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  Speaker 11: give you satisfy the spiritual conditions.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: For open heavens now. Money will come, ideas will come,
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  Speaker 2: wisdom will come. But it is not typing that manages
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: and builds well.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 11: It's one thing for money to come, It's another thing
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 11: to master the art of managing it and multiplying it.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 11: I define financial prosperity, among other definitions, as having availability
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 11: of financial resources alongside the ability to replenish, to manage,
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  Speaker 11: to multiply it, and to maintain its availability. If you
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 11: cannot maintain what God has given you, you are poor.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 11: So your tithe keeps opening.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: The heavens money is coming, but you consume it and
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: it finishes, and he says, Lord, it has finished. So
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: God is performing his own role. He gives seed to
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: the solar, prayer to the eater. Hour together now.
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  Speaker 11: So he sends you money, and then you come and
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 11: stand on coin on your ground and testify, praise the Lord.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: I gave it. Tired, I sow the seed into apostle's life.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 11: One point five million came that one point five million
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 11: looks like a harvest.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the harvest of your destiny. Is the harvest
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  Speaker 2: of the seed you have sown.
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  Speaker 11: We should become a not a seed that should bring
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 11: your havest hour together now. So I think that the
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  Speaker 11: natural loss of wealth teach us how to operate the systems,
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 11: to do something with the resources and the ideas that
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 11: come from heaven. The natural laws are all about managing
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 11: what comes through favor. So if one million comes through favor,
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 11: you should never beg the gain. If you understand the
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 11: loss of the spirits aur together now, so we have
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 11: believers receiving things from God and waiting, Oh, somebody gave
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 11: me house, somebody gave me this, somebody gave me that.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: And then we always have, and then don't have. We have,
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: and then we don't have, we have, and then it finishes.
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  Speaker 11: But when we have financial intelligence and understand the laws
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  Speaker 11: of wealth, right, it keeps accelerating from glory to glory.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 11: That's part of what Jimmy was saying.
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  Speaker 2: Please write this down. I wish we had time. I
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  Speaker 2: really wish this was a ninety jail. But then we
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  Speaker 2: have to find somewhere to stop and write this down.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: Prosperity works upon.
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  Speaker 11: The reward system of the kingdom, the reward system of
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 11: the kingdom. The reward system of the kingdom, and what
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 11: is the formula for wealth and abundance. Please write this down.
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  Speaker 11: It has changed my life.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it's changed every one of our facilitators here.
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  Speaker 2: Whether this is known or not, anyway it was practiced
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: wealth came. Write this down. Our rewards in life will
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: always be in exact proportion to three things. Our rewards,
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: financial rewards now, especially in life, will always be in
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: exact proportion to three things ready.
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  Speaker 11: Number one, the demand for what we do, the demand
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  Speaker 11: for what we do. You remain for when there is
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 11: no demand for what you do. That's why there is
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  Speaker 11: no longer night hell as it were, because there is
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  Speaker 11: no demand. That's why the sales off typewriters are no
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 11: longer there.
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  Speaker 2: There is no demand. Are we together? That's why that
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: three ten has run out of the market.
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  Speaker 11: There is no demand. So the question is is there
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 11: a demand? And we live in a world where making
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 11: wealth is so easy now it takes no particular brains
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 11: because there is a demand for almost everything. The world
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 11: has been globalized. There is a demand for almost everything.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: But so Alpha is a man of God offering spiritual value,
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 11: and that in itself the spiritual value is offering is
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 11: there a demand for it?
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  Speaker 2: Go and ask demons. I mean, we cast out demons
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: every week while healing the sick. You are God here
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: because there is a demand for what we're doing.
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  Speaker 11: So if you get sad that I'm prosperous, I find
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  Speaker 11: that very ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Anywhere there is a demand. Even if you don't like me,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: I went together now. I preach an average of three
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: messages every week, and that I am dispressing spiritual value.
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't do that for money. But the spiritual law
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: of reward is such that whether you offer the service
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: free or you sell it, you are authorized to be rewarded.
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  Speaker 2: I wur together. So it comes as on radio, it
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: comes as whatever blessings. Right. So if I keep being
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: competent with God, I get to a point where the honorariums,
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: the profits offerings.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 11: All the moneys that come to me from ministry will
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 11: be sufficient for me to build the financial.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: Stream around it. I will get you what I'm saying now.
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  Speaker 11: So pasor Alpha is being rewarded more so, he is
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 11: a lecturer offering value.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: Our daddy is a prof What does that tell you?
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: He has attained the highest position in his profession. So
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: is on thinkable to be surprised that he's a millennia
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's not something to pray about.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: Are we together?
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  Speaker 14: Now?
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  Speaker 11: A Jimmy is a man of God. The spiritual value
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 11: is there, right, He's an entrepreneur. He spared the price
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 11: to build himself and understand business and work, and you know,
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 11: being a communicator of God's financial principles to the body
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 11: of Christ.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: That is value. Are we together? He can organize a
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  Speaker 2: seminar just teaching you this. All these things you hear
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: or share are things that people pay.
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  Speaker 11: Over one hundred thousand for a three day seminar, and
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 11: those who communicated receive the value. That's why when believers fail,
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 11: I think God is really sad because we get free
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 11: in church.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: Nobody really pays anything free in church. Are we together now?
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: Doctor Jela, It wasn't too long he butt his PhD.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 11: I mean you can see as simple as he is,
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 11: very intelligent personality. You see he had to move now
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 11: to be trusted with a greater responsibility in his profession.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 11: He will not bear for bread. It's not the issue
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 11: of demons are alive. Whatever it is, he has value
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 11: that is in demand.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: Are we together now?
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 11: Same thing with Shadeh his wife, right, Chadees a lecturer
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 11: and a leather research.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: Right, she's a lecturer and leather research.
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 11: Their combined salary enough will drive every demon of property
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 11: that wants to come to your family. There are two
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 11: ways to drive demons. One is prayers to his knowledge.
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  Speaker 11: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: So let me tell you this.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 11: I say this without every sense or any sense of apology.
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  Speaker 11: Every one of the people here are absolutely competent people.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: Eron, is there.
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  Speaker 11: Aaron is a logistics person aside from other businesses and
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 11: things that he does, and then he's a man of
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 11: God too, right, But right now there are I don't
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 11: know how many weddings are on his table to organize
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 11: the logistics for them, and for every one of those weddings,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 11: I don't think he should be getting anything less than
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 11: forty thousand. So let's assume there are twenty weddings on
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 11: his table. Is it a mirror to produce four hundred thousand?
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  Speaker 11: Are you getting what I'm saying now? So that we
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 11: make it so miraculous that money is coming. It's a
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 11: formula the demand for what you do. Number two, your
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 11: ability to do what you do incompetence.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: Does not pay. That was the area I wanted our
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: daddy to talk about, But our time is gone. I'm
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: sorry I have to be the one saying these things
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: by myself. I wish that we could hear their perspectives.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: Do you have the ability to do what you do?
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: Everybody say competence. Say one more time, say competence. That
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: guy is on the camera, This guy is on another camera.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: This is competence. They were trained. Are we together now?
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: You want them to.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 11: Video cover your wedding? You are going to pay them.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 11: It's not going to be free. Are we together? Yes,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 11: I'm a man of God. But listen, it's not just
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 11: the announcing that produced all these things. I Daniel understood
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 11: by books. There is a place of study, there's a
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 11: place of diligence. Are we together now? I didn't learn
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 11: the things that I know financially and otherwise just by
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 11: low You can see a doctor telling you he's on
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 11: a book reading.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: He's currently reading a book, you can see, but as
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: Alpha saying, he's downloaded something and he's listening to it.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: These are people who are in a way already successful
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: in your field, but your competence.
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  Speaker 11: Please write it down. I destroy incompetence in my life
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 11: from today. Incompetence will make anyone for whether the devil
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 11: is there or not.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: If God decides to change it. And right now, people
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: will still be poor. Are we together now? So it
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: is important ability ability, ability. Shad and her husband will
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: never beg for bread and Jamie's wife makes Kate she
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: had a UK certification. Right Hope was doing well before
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: she got married, but here and there she was still there.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: But all through she's an economist and she.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 11: Already has a long term and he said, God, in
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 11: his witness, in his might, you know, connecting her to
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 11: a financial person, you know, made a study economists.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: And then Hope spend all her time from marriage building herself.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: She got a UK based certification. There are not many
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: of those institutions in the world. She was so competent
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: when she came back now being an authority in pastries
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: and all of these things. She made cake for me.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: In fact, you know, Daddy, you know, organized the family
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: to make cake for me. And I was so touched
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: when she made the cake.
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 11: The cake is almost finished because there have been so
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 11: many people just coming to take a piece of it.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 11: Now Hope will be able to make cake for Kaduna
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 11: State Government and they'll pay her one million. She can
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 11: make cake for bar during his birthday or any day
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 11: he wants to celebrate.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together now? God can now live that House
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: of Assembly to make cake for people. Because favor is
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: when preparishion or competence meets opportunity. Don't pray for God
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  Speaker 2: to bring opportunities where you are not prepared, you will
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  Speaker 2: blow it and that door will close forever. There's a
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: gentleman I don't know if he's here. He came with
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  Speaker 2: Sam today. That gentleman is a medical is a medical doctor.
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  Speaker 11: Now he if he discovered something witty inventions, he discovered
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 11: a machine, or he designed a machine that can detect
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 11: heart disease without having you just touch it in your
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 11: heart and it interpreted it. I mean, they just gave
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 11: him the pattern, the license for the mass production. When
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 11: that guy came to me with Sam and I saw
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 11: his presentation and.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: Was blown away. I said, this is the Kingdom ambassador.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: This guy is going to make the Kingdom proud. Today.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: He came with gifts and.
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  Speaker 11: I mean piles of money in an envelope, just dropped
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 11: it and brought it from me.
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  Speaker 2: And in my mind, you see, that's my own share
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: of the value. I added to him. I went together, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not laughing.
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  Speaker 11: Every body has a piece of the pie according to
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 11: your contribution. Because when he came, I looked at him,
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 11: I said, you're an intelligent person.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: And because I have a relationship with the Holy.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 11: Spirit, and he called me the only girl said tell
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 11: him to one made Professor or No.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: Being a Nobel Prize nominee, he would be in.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 11: The best position. And then this and I met him
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 11: when he met Professor or No. As it is right now,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 11: arrangement has been made for him to go to ministry
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 11: to a Buddha, to the Ministry of Science and Technology.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 11: They're going to take his work. And that guy has
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 11: gone forever. His generation will never beg again. Even if
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 11: the machine is one one mirror. Many people are dying
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 11: of heart disease.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: There is say demand for it. His ability to have
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: received from the Holy Spirit. Are we together now?
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 11: If that guy were incompetent like many of us are,
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 11: and we keep crying and saying, God, bless me, bless me,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 11: and God is saying, make room for the blessing with
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 11: your competence. Are we together now? Don't say I make here,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 11: don't say I do this. This is somebody's idea. We
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 11: didn't have to pray to buy it. This person is.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: Probably on holidays abroad and we're buying his product. That's
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: what Jimy is talking about. His design and autonomous system
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: that brings him well. Whether or not he is there.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: Are we together now? This is amazing?
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 11: People listen to Connonia messages when I'm sleeping and to
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 11: them I'm away preaching whereas I'm sleeping, and then we
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 11: receive a lot of Project ten thousand. We're sleeping, the
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 11: finance department is sleeping, but money is coming into the
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 11: account because a message could go and transcend time. Listen, guys,
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 11: I'm telling you this from the depth of my heart.
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 2: If you want to get out of poverty, you will.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: If you do not want to, you will remain there,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: hoping that one day in the sweet buy and buy
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: a miracle will happen. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 11: The third reason, as we prepare to round up on this,
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 11: is the difficulty in replacing you. Listen, No man is indispensable,
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 11: but there are people that are hard to find a replacement.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: That should be your position to remain wealthy. The degree
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: to which people find another profess on medicine is difficult.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 11: Madame Ladie is in our midst very very intelligent. Please
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 11: let's celebrate her. She's sneaking, hiding somewhere there.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: And with all due respect man.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 11: She sent me a text this morning that she was
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 11: going for a lecture in Kaduna and then had to
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 11: finish there.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: Do a few things and rush back and comfort coin on.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: You do you think she will bet? This is not
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: the issue of prayer, issue of value value value. Are
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: we together now? So please? This this magic thing we
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: expect to happen in our finances. Even if favor comes,
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: we will never receive anything because we are not contributing. Right,
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 2: So the demand for what we do, our ability to
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 2: do it, and then.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 11: The difficulty in replacing us last point, and then we
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 11: just appreciate the facilitators.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry our time is gone, but we still
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: have to pray. I wish we had so much time.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: They have so much to be able to just fall out.
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about multiple streams of income. Finally, everybody
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: is going to participate.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 11: We all have agreed that the salary a man ends
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 11: may not be enough, right while we receive tithes and
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 11: all of that, and multiple streams of income important not
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 11: necessarily what they are, but how they affect people positively
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 11: or negatively.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: Go aheads up, just place two two minutes. Let's walk
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: with the time.
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 11: Multiple streams of income is very very important because I'm
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 11: a lecturer, for instance, and when ASU goes on strike,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 11: for example, and I think it affects for you. When
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 11: ASU goes on strike after three months, your salary stopped.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: After three months.
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 11: If they strike exists three months, they stop paying salary.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 11: If they strike last for eight months, that means you
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 11: live for five months without salary coming in.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 3: So within those five months, how are you going to survive?
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 3: That means there's a need to diversify.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 11: Okay, So it's important that you don't place your financial
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 11: supply on one source of income alone. There should be
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 11: different Like Agimmy mentioned, there is farming. Like I was
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 11: talking with some in some people in Kaduna.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 2: They're into some is.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 11: An organization they are trying to promote ginger production right now.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 11: They just entered an agreement to the US based company
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 11: who is looking for major ginger supply and they're trying
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 11: to It's something like another distry here right now. And
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 11: then I run into a guy who is part of
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 11: the organization and it was offered me an opportunity to.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 2: Participate in it. So now I'm not going to depend
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: on just my salary alone.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: Because what Satain can make a man hand the cap when.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 11: He knows your source of income is one, he closes
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 11: that and that is the end of it, but we
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 11: have many of them you can always switch to for
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 11: theac time. Let God bless you. Thank you that our
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 11: daddy talk to us. I mean, this is a very
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 11: successful man. Just his salary alone as a professor is
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 11: enough to bless him. But then please talk towards that
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 11: multiple streams of income exactly.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: Living very fast.
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  Speaker 13: You see, like if I'm going to start sup you
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 13: you said, like when he was talking about excellence, you say,
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 13: if our advice in this generation that you see, if
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 13: your ability it's just enough to read medicine, read a cold,
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 13: simpler medicine.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether you understand what I'm saying, because
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: you see, if.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 13: You're going to probably a lot to medicine, if your
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 13: ability it's just not for you to read. Except we've
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 13: got intervened. But if you go into a course lower,
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 13: you become an authority. You see, the world today is
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 13: not after the profession, but the people who are excelling
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 13: in the in the profession I read chemistry education. If
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 13: you go to chemistry department, I have the opportunity of
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 13: interacting with the best chemists through it pure chemistry and
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 13: my colleagues walk out your side. Dot com and the
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 13: rest because I excel in my my area and I
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 13: was able to get out and I was able to
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 13: reap it. She wants to have opportunities that act it.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 13: Would you do the same job, but you have multiple
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 13: ways of getting money. I know an institution placed my
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 13: name and I was earning fifty nine anymore. Everyone I
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 13: was not going anywhere because they needed the name of
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 13: a professor to be in the least of their teachers.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 11: We just put his name Josho endorsement. Money is coming.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 11: No prayer, no demos, no courses. Money is just flying
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 11: in and coming.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: You see.
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  Speaker 13: I've had an instance where I worked for a day
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 13: and I was paid four hundred and something sothern errand
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 13: I told my daughter there.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 11: Was a term.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: They brought a piece of paper. I just read it
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: in the office. It was just one thing.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 13: I corrected and they gave me thirty to earth. And
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 13: that's the way call where you're excelling your propation. But
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 13: truly speaking, these opportunities that didn't come to me when
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 13: I learned to surrender.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: My resources money pet to God.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 3: You see, I have money, but.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: I'm willing money at today. Hey, the Lord needs it.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 13: I remember last time when I went in on Santbactica,
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 13: I was coming up and they were praying financial prayer,
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 13: and I gave all the money I asked, and I
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 13: was wondering what I was going to do. But you know,
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 13: within two weeks got the raise of few jobs that
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 13: I've got over a million ironsmen.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing well sir.
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to multiple streams of income, we have
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 5: to look at it in three ways. Number one, God
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 5: has given you a message, right, and that message is divine.
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 5: It's from him your assignment. Your life's pursued what He
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 5: has wired you to achieve. But the method and the
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 5: market can be manipulated. So, for example, APERSO can preach
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 5: a message and that message can be.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 2: Given free, which is how most people get the messages.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: Yes or no.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 5: He can do it as a compendrum, right and just
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 5: sign on it, and that can be a product that
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 5: can be commoditized.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 2: Yes or no. He can sit down with the Bible
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: and write his thoughts on the Bible and it can
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: be maybe the coin on your Bible. Same message, yes
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 2: or no. The method has changed. He cannot choose to
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: write a book, same message. The method has changed.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 5: He cannot choose to host a heemina for top VIPs.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe if we got.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 5: Too million and there they travel to do buy and
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 5: then they charge the fee. The method has changed, but
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 5: the message remains worth the same. Sometimes you can create
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 5: multiple streams of income.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 2: By tricking the method. So the same product, but.
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 5: You do it in different ways. Do you understand what
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 5: I'm saying? The same product you do it is different ways.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 5: You see some ties they put tie and pocket square,
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 5: you buy it as well. They do couplings alone. You
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 5: can buy it as well.
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: They can couple it. Do you understand?
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 5: So the method can change, then the market can change.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 5: If you want to create another stream of income. For example,
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 5: if we're going to do there are some places where
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 5: we cannot do this kind of thing without charging money.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: It will not work. So the market require that you
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: charge money if you want to do it.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 5: For cegos, there's a level of hospitality they desire you
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 2: In transcorpt the market has changed. Income can come from there.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 5: You know, say let's do it compost one. It will
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 5: not be a ticketed event a bank who sponsor it.
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 5: Income comes from there. The market has changed.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 2: Do you understand?
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 5: So sometimes in creating multiple streams of income. You have
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 5: to look at what it is you are currently doing.
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 5: Is there a different method? Some people ignore social media.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 5: Do you know many of the things you do for
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 5: free you can charge on social media? You know why
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 5: the people you do it for free for they know you,
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 5: so they don't want to pay you. But if it's
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 5: someone in Australia, it will pay you.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: Well. If my friend is why are I would teach
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: you right?
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 5: So you also think about it that way and then
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 5: you can now leverage social media around what you do
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 5: and then charge same thing online offline.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: You can create multiple streams of income from them. Amazing,
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: all AG.
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 11: I want to respond to this in this way that
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 11: I believe all of us everyone must be.
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 3: Involved in doing business. And this is what gives me
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 3: this inspiration.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 4: There's this probable no, maybe you're going to permit me
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 4: to say it in your okay, and probably I'll also
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 4: try to interpret it.
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 2: It says that.
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: Orl Now, what it means is that when you walk,
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 3: it is the father of what you eat or what
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 3: you can eat.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 4: You get salarly, your your feeding is guaranteed, but when
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 4: you do business, then your riches is guaranteed. Your world
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 4: is guaranteed. So if as okay, I'm presently a lecturer. Okay,
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 4: eventually we get to become a professor and all of that,
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 4: but I'm not seeing myself, you know, and maybe eventually okay,
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 4: retired and maybe retired in my own house and all
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 4: of that, but I'm not seeing just that. I'm saying
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 4: that until I do business what it's called kingdom world,
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 4: that is, when it can't matter your lives.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 11: If even is just salarry that I live on, then
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 11: I would just be comfortable and that will just be
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 11: all that like this do it.
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 4: But one must be involved in doing business. It is
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 4: actually doing business that this blesses. I believe this blessing
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 4: this world can come on one.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, God, bless you. Should they say
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: something multiple streams of.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 12: Income, halenjujah, okay, I would want to say a little
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 12: on what Alpha said earlier, trying to throw more light
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 12: on the importance of multiple streams of income. My husband
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 12: is a lecturer. I am one as well. Let's assume,
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 12: especially for those of us that walk now, since I
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 12: think this year, with the funny things that has been
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 12: happening in our country, how things have been financially when
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 12: salary's come and all of that. And so if everybody
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 12: is tired that we know, you begin to pray give
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 12: us this day, are transports pay? I know that's what
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 12: civil servants pray for sometimes around these times. But then
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 12: the reason for multiple streams of income becomes very very important.
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 12: At such times, everybody is not just waiting for dates.
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 12: In fact, civil servants popularly call twenty anything from twenty
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 12: and they call it twenty hungry months, and said I
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 12: would never call it with them twenty ay, come twenty one,
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 12: twenty two. Of course, now your account is getting read
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 12: because you're waiting for a lot. And these days a
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 12: lad doesn't come until first week, second week of the
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 12: next month in men as welfare.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 3: Right, Amen.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 12: So for those kinds of times, you definitely meet something,
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 12: no matter how small you're living in a neighborhood. The
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 12: houses are just coming up in area. It could be
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 12: bad of what I'm sorry I'm saying it. It's no
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 12: matter how small. You need something you need to.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 11: Buy, you have visitors, you have you have to get
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 11: meeting or at these ladies.
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 12: You know how really bad and terrible we feel when
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 12: someone comes to your house and you don't have anything
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 12: to offer. You understand there's something in the pots to
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 12: serve along with your food. You don't then at least
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 12: that if there's no aquatic, that should be terrestrial, you know,
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 12: something like that. So no matter how small it is,
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord. There should be something that's coming in,
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 12: and then we should have a plan. As we're getting
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 12: our income, there should be something that is going towards
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 12: that plan. You want to have this school, you want
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 12: to have businesses, whatever it is that should be a
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 12: part passage or say something about savings that should be
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 12: a part of your income that is going towards that
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 12: plan for your multiple source of income. You don't just
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 12: eat of everything. A parson said, you don't eat your siege.
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 12: It's important that you should realize that what you have
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 12: in your hands should produce a greater harvest for your future.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 12: Praise the Lord.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 11: Amen, Well, I promise you we have to stop here.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 11: We do the part two of this Praise the Lord,
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 11: and Mike was put. Their intention was to have us
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 11: come and you know, give our questions and then even.
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 2: Attempt some things. I really plan for it to be
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 2: really interactive. Our time is first spent. I'm not sure
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: we may have that time again, so I'll just strike
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 2: a deal with us. Let's break this.
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 11: Into part one and part two. Maybe not next week,
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 11: but I promise you I would dedicate it. They maybe
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 11: next month and finish up on this because we need
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 11: to hear you talk. This Mike is not just for questions,
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 11: it's also to hear your perspectives. The reason why we
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 11: do this is because we want to challenge many of us,
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 11: and not just in the conventional way of having the
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 11: bull pat you know, and speaking here and there. But
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 11: let me use two minutes to just wrap up this
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  Speaker 11: thing about finance.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much. This is only the tip of the
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  Speaker 2: iceberg that they have to bring with preached extensively.
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  Speaker 11: On that economic system of the Kingdom Financial Dominion Part
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  Speaker 11: one to four the wealthy place, but one to four
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  Speaker 11: and so on and so forth. But then let me
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  Speaker 11: say a few things, and I'm going to challenge a
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  Speaker 11: lot of people with this. You can never become a
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  Speaker 11: millionaire working for money. The percentage of people who ever
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  Speaker 11: become true Kingdom millionnaires with peace of mind working for money.
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  Speaker 11: Working for money is the worst way to be rich,
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  Speaker 11: is the very worst way. It's only a good starting point,
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  Speaker 11: but you cannot continue. There are three main ways people
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  Speaker 11: really generate wealth. Number One, ninety six percent of the
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  Speaker 11: whole world they trade their time for money.
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  Speaker 2: That's what people do. Is good, but if it remains
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  Speaker 2: like that is the worst way to live. So you
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  Speaker 2: do eight to five, eight to five. The day you
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  Speaker 2: don't do it, there's no money forever, and you are depressed.
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  Speaker 2: By the time you're forty, you're already using the money
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  Speaker 2: to maintain your health. So you live longer, you lose
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  Speaker 2: your place as a father, you lose relationship with your children.
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  Speaker 2: It's not wise.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, So ninety six percent, this is statistics. Now ninety
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  Speaker 11: six percent of.
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  Speaker 2: The whole world gets well by exchanging time for money
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  Speaker 2: is the worst way to ever try to be rich.
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  Speaker 2: You can start from there, but if you open you
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  Speaker 2: up to other things.
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  Speaker 11: Number two, three percent of the world know how to
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  Speaker 11: make their money produce for them.
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  Speaker 2: That's the second way they make well.
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  Speaker 11: So the money they get from the jobs or whatever
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  Speaker 11: the favor the breakthrough land houses all of that. They
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  Speaker 11: have already established streams that multiplied match to twenty five.
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  Speaker 11: He gave on to one one talent, two talents, and
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  Speaker 11: they went and the other one brought one hundred percent yield,
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  Speaker 11: another one hundred percent guild and he told them, well done,
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  Speaker 11: good and faithful servants. Right, So three percent of the
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  Speaker 11: world's billonnaires and the world's millionnaires make their well by
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  Speaker 11: using what they have as a seed.
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  Speaker 2: Not they harvest and then it keeps producing for them.
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  Speaker 2: And then one percent the third way, which is the
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  Speaker 2: most efficient way to be wealthy.
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  Speaker 11: Only one percent of the world does that. It's generating
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  Speaker 11: multiple streams of income. You create a system around your finances, multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Streams of income.
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  Speaker 11: Just like they said, a lot of things here, there
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  Speaker 11: are people who have sold properties as a seed into
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  Speaker 11: my life.
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  Speaker 2: I've not even seen those properties. I've not gone dear
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  Speaker 2: to go and look at it like this. Are we
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  Speaker 2: together now? Very very important?
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  Speaker 11: I remember some years ago I got one small land somewhere,
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  Speaker 11: very small, maybe everything close paperwork will be three hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: And I know as at the last.
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  Speaker 11: Time also that property was priced somewhere it was about
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  Speaker 11: three million.
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  Speaker 2: ERA and it's still there. I used did that my
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  Speaker 2: children will never beg for food. And this has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with prayer. The place is not even friends just.
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  Speaker 11: Able to buy a little property, just like that they
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  Speaker 11: gave Coinonia. You know, a property in Lucky, that God
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  Speaker 11: blessed us with a property in Lucky, and you know
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  Speaker 11: we left it here, and I'm sure the value of
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  Speaker 11: that property is running into millions.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I say ministry will never beg for bread because
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  Speaker 2: we're not just receiving shavel. There is a system. Are
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  Speaker 2: you get to what I'm saying now? So I'm challenging you.
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  Speaker 11: You have to generate multiple strips of income, but you
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  Speaker 11: start from somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to do all for is the starting point from
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  Speaker 2: many of us.
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  Speaker 11: Maybe to get a job that's the easiest one to
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  Speaker 11: get the ball rolling. Then you save twenty percent.
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  Speaker 2: I teach in the School of Ministry the thirty seventy principle.
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  Speaker 2: Ten percent goes to God, twenty percent goes to your future.
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  Speaker 11: Seventy percent is what you consume now, whatever lifestyle seventy
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  Speaker 11: percent of your current income cannot afford, you.
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  Speaker 2: Are not yet ready for it. You see.
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  Speaker 11: So when you keep saving twenty percent of your income,
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  Speaker 11: a time will come you have enough money to be
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  Speaker 11: able to now begin to invest and create other avenues.
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  Speaker 2: And then these things are giving back to children, to
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  Speaker 2: children to children and so on and so forth like that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really very important.
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  Speaker 11: That's what Jacob did. He had a few sheep and
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  Speaker 11: then he did not eat them. He allowed them and
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  Speaker 11: to reproduction. A time came he had so much praise
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  Speaker 11: the Lord. So this is very very important. I wish
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  Speaker 11: we had time, but this is not a business class.
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  Speaker 11: This is purely coriinonia. Is our stimulating a desire in you.
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  Speaker 11: We've not talked about leadership, but I know our time.
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  Speaker 11: Just put it in your mind. That will close a
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  Speaker 11: bit late to the police. Don't be offended. It will
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  Speaker 11: be more than worth it. We have to round up
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  Speaker 11: by talking about our spiritual lives because.
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  Speaker 2: That's what to push us into the importation.
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  Speaker 11: We cannot just close without talking about that. So let
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  Speaker 11: me give five minutes, please quickly, guys, it was going
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  Speaker 11: to be five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: So Alpha, who who is a spiritual man? Who is
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  Speaker 2: a spiritual man? Let's just talk about our spiritual lives.
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  Speaker 2: Wererounding up? Who is a spiritual man? Okay?
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  Speaker 11: Simply put, God is a spirit He created us in
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  Speaker 11: his image. There was a disruption to that image in
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 11: the garden. Christ came to restore that image and the
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  Speaker 11: man who has accepted that work of restoration and has
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  Speaker 11: submitted himself to go through the transformation that made him
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 11: look exactly like Christ.
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  Speaker 2: I see that man as a spiritual well amazing prof Sir.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 2: Why do Christian's backslide? Why do we have believers who
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 2: today are up and tomorrow are down?
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  Speaker 11: There are people probably sit that here whose prayer lives
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 11: are dead worldlife. They love Jesus, but it looks like
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 11: that flow consistency. It's what a lot of believers lack
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  Speaker 11: in their work. Would you help her to address? What
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  Speaker 11: would be the reason? Why is it that there's this
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 11: ups and down spiritually to damn on.
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  Speaker 2: Fire to morrow? I'm down, yes, sir. The cerizens, I
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  Speaker 2: would like to say, could be. But I feel if
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  Speaker 2: a person has really have a genuine in counter with God,
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 2: you say that what they have discovered.
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  Speaker 13: If you're ad a genuine in counterab with God and
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 13: you know the presidence of God wherever you are, you
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 13: always feel this is something sending you back to the
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 13: presidence of God. And you see like multiple backside, I
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 13: don't have got on the top. They come to the
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 13: truth because they see others come to the truth. But
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 13: you say any time you see.
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 2: You have you have the opportunity of having one for
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: one encounter with God. There's nothing on that said. Decide.
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  Speaker 13: There are instances you say, like opportunities that come to
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  Speaker 13: me like this and I discoverer, I will dry and
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  Speaker 13: I I know it.
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  Speaker 2: You take me out of God President and you see.
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  Speaker 13: Ball where people BALLU material things.
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  Speaker 2: More than more than God. You turn easily. You see
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 2: I said that once you become a Christian, if you.
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  Speaker 13: Want to survive, the first thing he must know is
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 13: that I'm willing to die every day for Jesus.
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 2: Once you have made that communed with the God, it
• 2:52:23
  Speaker 2: becomes very, very difficult for something separating to the world
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 2: will try to entice you.
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  Speaker 13: Once did that commitment and that will want to go
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 13: relationship because.
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  Speaker 2: Ticer the bab said, it's difficult for I'm tested again.
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  Speaker 2: So my advice don't serve God on the out break
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  Speaker 2: the this thing and get you the Lord. Okay, once
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  Speaker 2: you go, you would never want to Okay, God, bless you,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jimmy.
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  Speaker 11: Please profid in one minute, what is a restoration plan
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  Speaker 11: for a believer who was the railed right now and
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 11: his knee needing someone to talk to him. You want
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  Speaker 11: someone to speak to you. You probably you were once
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 11: in Christ. You love God, but for some reason you
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 11: know you are struggling. Maybe the person is not even
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 11: in the faith again, you've lost touch. You used to
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 11: be so addicted to the world. Right now everything has
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 11: dried and you want to come back, and you please
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  Speaker 11: guide them in two minutes from step eight.
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  Speaker 5: To b Well, the first is to let him understand
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  Speaker 5: that the mere fact that he has a desire to return,
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 5: it's proved that the Holy Spirit is still at working him,
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 5: convicting him. So you should start from the place of
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 5: the faithfulness of God, not his own faithfulness. This relationship
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 5: only one person drew back him, and the fact that
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 5: he still desires is proof. Having said that he should
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 5: quickly identify the things that led him astray and begin
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 5: to take definite practical steps to cut off those things.
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  Speaker 5: Having said that, he should now begin to pursue a
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  Speaker 5: person that he can be accountable to a figure or
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 5: if fellowship like a prayer brand and all of that,
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 5: or a pastor and together they can depending on how
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 5: far he has gone. For example, if it was an
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 5: act of willful consistent scene, a particular scene they can
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  Speaker 5: address it, pray for him to be delivered, and then
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 5: come up with a plan of study, prayer, and service,
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 5: and then follow him up on that plan. He should
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 5: plant himself in a community of believers that will hold
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 5: him accountable and bring him back into the kingdom. And
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 5: then he should give himself time to begin to work
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 5: on that plan, preferably three months to six months of
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 5: consistency before he can start feeling like okay, let me evaluate.
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  Speaker 2: If he does this, I think that he will come
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 2: back and then service.
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  Speaker 5: He should quickly begin to now start serving, because there's
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 5: something about ministry that places a demand on you to
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 5: replenish yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Last question, and this is for the couple, sir, just
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  Speaker 2: you and your wife together, how do you maintain your
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 2: spiritual life being working class? I know how busy you are.
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 2: I know how busy your wife.
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  Speaker 11: Your wife is, sorry, and I mean she's You're traveling
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 11: all the time, She's around taking care of the children.
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 11: You know, she's a financial secretary in Coinnonia. There's so
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 11: much she's doing.
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 2: And how do you both, maybe as.
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 11: Individuals and as a couple, maintain the spiritual fevor, especially
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 11: as it concerns what study, prayer fellowship together.
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  Speaker 2: Can you just quickly help us on that as we
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 2: round up?
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  Speaker 4: I think you have mentioned during that time we were
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 4: talking and you were talking about having an orcando gram. Okay,
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 4: I'm an economist, sore, maybe I'll call it scale of
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  Speaker 4: different And the first thing on the list is one's
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 4: relationship with Gold, and so I want to say that too,
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  Speaker 4: that the most important thing outside all the busyness.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're running here and there and all that,
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 3: the first.
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 4: And foremost most important in a man's life. It's relationship
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 4: with God that is in place. All of that things
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 4: fall in life, all that relationship with others even once.
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 3: To walk to prosper and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: So the first and foremost.
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  Speaker 4: It's relationship with God that should not suffer, that should
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 4: be serviced, that should be well taken care of, and
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 4: if that is done, all of that things falling.
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  Speaker 12: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so that you agree with your husband or
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 2: would you want to add something?
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  Speaker 12: Yes, I perfectly agree with him. I would also want
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  Speaker 12: to add especially okay, now for me, I first of all,
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 12: the place of the family older is very very important.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 12: But then there needs to be a place for your
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 12: individual spiritual life like for me, I sleep with Corinonia messages.
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 12: I live it on sometimes and then I wake up
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 12: at night because really waking up already praying or studying
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 12: while with children away is really not easy. My Bible
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 12: will get torn wy note we could get torn. I
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 12: will get a lot of max on it, and that
• 2:57:00
  Speaker 12: because they will also want to be involved, so I
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 12: wait till they slip. I can do any serious spiritual business.
• 2:57:06
  Speaker 12: And then sometimes I'm in the kitating, my messages are on,
• 2:57:09
  Speaker 12: my messages are on, the songs that are on, and
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 12: watching and just having that consciousness of God's presence. You
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 12: may not have the time to sit down to close
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 12: your eyes to pray, because there are sometimes we want
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 12: to pray, and then you call us because of party
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 12: and tired needs. But then that presence around you somehow
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 12: it just keeps you in touch. I think when we're
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 12: having the prayer and fastic Daddy said something about how
• 2:57:32
  Speaker 12: that we should sleep with that consciousness of God's presence,
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 12: especially when you're trusting God for the spirit of revelation.
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 12: I don't know if we remember that you may not
• 2:57:41
  Speaker 12: be awake, but then your spirit man is a lot
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 12: and awake because of the presence that is around you.
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  Speaker 2: Praise men, Dr and missus So Jelly, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Provers Or Mary, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so true.
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