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Screaming Trees · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's deprogram. The podcaster.
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We try to get you into a band and ice cream, but houses
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because we're doing Screaming Trees today and a tree screamed
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at Randy, but we'll get to that later.
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So look, all things told. This was supposed to be 50/50
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for Fredo, this was Fredo's 50. Yeah.
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So supposed to be his man is Big 50, you understand?
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But you know things happen life. Life somehow finds a way.
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This is what somebody once said. So we're going to shift
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everything to the left, huh? We're going to John, we're going
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to say that you put screaming trees on the board even though
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that is not entirely accurate. So, Screaming, Trees, tell me
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about it. Yeah, I totally would have put
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screaming trees on the board. I don't know why I didn't yeah.
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Screaming trees are one of those kind of like secondary Seattle
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bands, like they were around at the beginning and they're 84.
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I think they started using, they started in 1984, they around at
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the beginning, friends, you know, friends of Nirvana,
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friends with Alice in Chains all those all those bands.
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But they really broke out on the, the single soundtrack is
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think as a lot of people. First heard them in that for the
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nearly lost you and that song like it's played on the radio to
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this day, but screaming trees is really about Mark, lanegan
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voice. And you like, what it Came like
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his voice is one of the most incredible like Soulful deep
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whatever adjective you want to use like voices and rock and
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he's done a lot of things like he was.
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He did a lot of things after trimming trees.
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A lot of solo work, the thing, I always go back to with with
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Screaming Trees. The quote, I always think of is
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I think van Connor in the movie hype Thanksgiving.
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Trees are being interviewed at like a bar or something.
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In a club he goes people say there's A lot of ton of bands in
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Seattle, but this, the trees are a ton of band.
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It's like they were little on the heavier side, his brother,
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but it is kind of, it does have a little bit of a tragic ending
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in the last year or two, because Mark lanegan died, February of
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2022 and then van Connor passed away.
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I think from pneumonia back in January of this year.
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So yeah, that lost lost two of them in the last last two years
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but the pool Get into a minute. But they're, they're one of
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those like great underground, Seattle bands, that should have
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been bigger than they were. So we're going to pass this on
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to Randy in Randy. I know you said you weren't
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comfortable to lead, but you had to have been comfortable enough
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with the trees to jump in. So tell me about it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It was that and I think most of what I was going to say was
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pretty much what John covered. You know, most of what I know is
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the Seattle attachment and like they were Burnt, it was this
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weird gray area where they weren't necessarily Pearl Jam,
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Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, but they also
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really weren't mudhoney either. Like, what box did they check?
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And it just kind of became this thing where it was like, okay,
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another Seattle band with the Seattle sound but honestly,
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like, yeah, they had that kind of sound.
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And if you go back to like 1992 and you think about that year
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and you think about that record, that we're going to talk about a
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lot here. Sweet Oblivion.
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That is a very 1992 sounding record so it's right in that
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wheelhouse of what everybody else was doing, but it's just so
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weird that they were never considered.
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And you know, you think of the lead singers for all four of
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those bands there, you know, really, you know, there are
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highly respected with in Rock and Roll history.
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And Mark lanegan should be up there to be discussed with the
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rest of them and I don't know, I don't know.
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Oh, why? That's that.
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Isn't that isn't the case? But, you know, their music.
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Yeah, I have to say that this was the first real big deep dive
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that I went into them and I always loved using deprogrammed
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as an excuse to do that to just get into a band and study them
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and figure out who they were and why they worked.
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And yeah, like I love their music, they You know, the check
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a lot of boxes. And even if you go back, like
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the first two records, that we come, they aren't even the first
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two records. The first two records that we
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cover in this group and I'm sure we're going to end up talking
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about sound, very, very early, Seattle, grunge like a lot of
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that stuff. Kind of reminds me of Green
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River so yeah that's look, I had a fun time.
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Listen to this I'm hoping to have fun time talking about it.
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So as I mentioned, this kind of came together as an Attempt at
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doing Fredo's 50th and we initially, we're going to do the
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Ramones Ramones still happening. Just later in the good because I
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want to talk about the Ramones for a long, long time.
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But I was looking at her list and I was like, well what do we
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what haven't we done? That has the group existing,
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which is, is the four of us. Plus dr.
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Tim - dr. Tim and I was like, well,
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there's the Screaming Trees. I don't know how Bryan feels
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about Screaming Trees, but I know.
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Brian loves lanegan. Let me ask him.
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I mean I'm a slut. You know me.
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I'll be on anything man. So tell me about Screaming
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Trees. Brian.
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Well first off I wrote a joke for you just now oh in your room
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in the style of nor McDonald, I could tell you that the trees
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were screaming when you made the wood paneling in your living
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room. Sorry everyone, I'm sorry.
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I'm so sorry. Internet world for that joke.
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I could not say it. I'm sorry.
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I love you. I love you.
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I love you nor McDonald so much. I miss you more of that later
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on. I miss you, mark lanegan to the
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screaming trees for me. Like I I don't eat, you know, I
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don't really care for Grunge music at all.
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I I don't consider them a grunge band II.
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Know they were mislabeled that I feel mislabeled that they were
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on something different cause they started off like a
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psychedelic rock band. It was like, it was kind of like
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the same way that especially pumpkin started off, you know?
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I mean like it was really noisy like psychedelic, and then they
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really fine-tuned and became good pop song.
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Song song writers. So I really appreciate I think I
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probably like more there later stuff than most of their
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hardcore fans quote-unquote would.
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But I also feel the same way about Afghan Whigs where I kind
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of I kind of really like some of the later stuff because I think
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I really appreciate pop sensibilities.
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Like to me, I love pop music. I will always defend it pop
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music. Just literally means music.
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That's popular. Like, it's be used as a
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pejorative, but like, the hardest thing as an artist for
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me. Anyway, the hardest thing in the
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world for me to conceive is making something that everybody
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likes. Yeah.
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So like that's so hard to do, you know?
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And I've never done it. Yeah, I In my own small.
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My oh, I'm wearing your shirt right now.
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Be myopic fucking world. I like I did too.
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But like, yeah, you are my shirt.
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Oh my gosh. Jesus just you know where the
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band of the shirt of the bay are going to see man.
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I'm that guy I really really, really love Mark lanegan.
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Like I think he has a great voice actually.
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My favorite thing Mark lanegan has ever done.
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Vocally is the queen of the Stone Age, like he did the the
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this lullaby on That's lullabies to paralyze.
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I fuckin love that song. I love his voice.
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I really like him as a more folksy songwriter and I feel the
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same way about Greg dulli to and they're both kind of
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inseparable. I mean Greg dulli, in my
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opinion, wrote his best record about Mark lanegan relapsing on
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drugs and like to put your whole career on hold to write
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something at your best friend did and inspired you to make
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that art is worth something to me.
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You know, I mean even if even if it's tragic like that you know,
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so the screaming trees mean a lot to her.
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I love people, I love. So of course, I gave him an
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honest. Listen, and some point in my
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life, I really their early stuff, I really enjoyed but I
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really like their middle period of their career.
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I think, I think that is where because, so screaming trees for
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me, obviously, you, you can't be my age and not at least no one,
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screamed. She seungyoon pop, we've all
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heard everybody song, we're going to talk about it when all
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have on our list. Nobody knows nearly lost.
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Yeah. Right.
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He was not good. Put on the list right now.
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Number one, we also know for me, screaming trees weren't like
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major here, but I remember on Dust.
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I remember the, the next record coming out and I re I actually
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associate more, why is the song escaping me and why do I have a
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guitar pick on my lap, all these things, all these questions and
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more answered, as I look down at my notes because I am a disaster
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today. All I know.
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Duh, I really like how prepared Where do you wear?
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Yes. Yeah, I'm always prepared but
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all I know was the song. I was thinking of it.
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I always think of that one first, I know the song Escape me
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for whatever reason, just now. But I always think of that one
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first and then nearly lost you and you know, I know maybe
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that's sacrilege but so I'm familiar but I never much liked.
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Randy said, I never took the Deep dive.
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I never. I never did time to go, you
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know, I bought dust so when I bought dust I listened to dust
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pretty regularly but Once that came out of rotation, I never
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went back to it, right? And that's no fault of the
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record. No, no.
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That's just my taste changing and, you know something,
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something shiny came in and took its place.
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And so having this chance to kind of get into this band.
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That's kind of always been on the periphery me.
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Anyway. Yeah, and is a band that I
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probably should have been well-versed in at you know it
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shouldn't have taken this episode for me to get into the
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Screaming Trees. It was nice to finally, you
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know, put the two together and I kind of want to tie this to.
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So Randy said something about Mark lanegan, you know, we'll
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use a current term, not not really getting his flowers, but
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I think it's like I was listening to the Local H of
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podcast today, lifers and they had Jimmy Fleming him from the
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frogs on and before Jimmy came in, they said the frogs are kind
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of like a musicians, Like a Rock Band, rock band.
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Mmm. I think that's kind of how Mark
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lanegan is the thinking, man, dudes.
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I think that, you know, when you think about, like, when Mark
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past like, who were the loudest voices that were upset, you
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know, sad about it. And, you know, it's a lot of
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musicians and a lot of people who didn't understand.
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Yeah, there's, there's a term in comedy.
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I'm sure it's in a lot of art, but you're a comedian's comedian
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yet. Either you're a musician's
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musician. Yeah, like yeah.
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How dare he? Having respect for him.
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Like it should be a point of like stature like like oh shit.
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He lotion soap will respect you like him that you were legit,
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you know? I mean like, So the second we
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kind of Switched Focus from Ramones to Screaming Trees.
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John like I don't even think we had gotten a yet, like a firm.
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Yes, from everybody. You had a list ready to go for
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everything we should cover. So so talk to me about putting
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your list together and why, why are we covering what we covered?
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Yeah. I'm you know kind of similar to
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what you guys can say and I was you know as familiar with sweet
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Oblivion and does from a little bit of Uncle.
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Seizure. But I'd never gone back to to
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buzz Factory in the stuff before that and it was a little
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different than what I was expecting.
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You know, because you think like, oh, early like mid 80s,
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late, 80s, Seattle, it's going to be very heavy and very
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crunchy. But like Brian said, you know,
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it does have a little bit of that psychedelic kind of
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alternative sound, which, which was part of that Seattle,
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Sounders really wasn't all, just like heavy heroin music.
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You like like Anna girly, Soundgarden that a lot too.
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But yeah, it was I mean as soon as soon as cream cheese came
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out, I was like, oh yeah, I was excited to make that list.
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I think I didn't have room to put and I think the very first
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one in the the last ones they did which was their last album
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which got re-released I think in 2011 or something but from what
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I understand all that stuff is is were checking out.
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It's nothing that's going to be a huge departure from from what
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you hear. So but yeah, I mean a putting
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those together. It was, you know, what was, you
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know what highlights Market? His voice.
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Like, that was my thinking going into.
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This is like, I want a 10 where you can listen to, and be like,
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God damn that dude had one of the greatest voices of all time.
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So I tried to like, pick songs and go back to songs that
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they're really highlighted that and really like focused on what
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he can do, you know, vocally and like just in the the sounded
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like the classic sound that he has with that voice.
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So Randy as you're putting your 20 together because we didn't
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have a lot of chatter about our Is usually there's a this many
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through and we didn't do a whole lot of that.
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How did how did it go for you? Yeah, I had about 30 that went
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through and I don't think putting them to 20 was that
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difficult, but I was looking for the same things I was looking
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for what Lanigan, sound the best at I was looking for, you know,
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the differentiate because they have like you said psychedelic.
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They have some of the more stuff that Lanigan would do later on
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his solo records that come up here and I kind of wanted to get
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that sound in along with sort of the straight-up Rock and Roll
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concert. Sound.
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So I was trying to mix as much as I could.
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And, you know, within that I'm always like the ear test for me,
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if I hear it and I like it, I'm putting it in and, you know,
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trying not to, you know, if it's differ if it's differentiated
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from the pack then than it is, if it's not, then it just means
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I, it hit me the right way. But yeah, I think that the
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question of the Thomas is going to be very interesting.
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So let's get to that a little bit later, I guess.
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Yeah. So putting your less list
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together. So when I, when I roped you in
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we have said, I didn't rope. Yeah.
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You said I'll have a, I'll have my 20 by next week there for
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sure. How hard was it?
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I mean, the the, the Beauty and the and the curse of the show is
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it's not hard to find 20 songs. You like from a band.
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It's hard to have only 20 songs. You like from a band and you
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don't really think about it. Because it's easy at first.
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Oh, of course, I know my favorite sons from them.
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And then you deep-diving, you're like shit.
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And then you have like our other two, esteemed guests have far
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more better metrics and algorithms to their
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decision-making today than I did.
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And I feel a little like, shit. I think underprepared, I didn't,
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I didn't like I didn't think about honoring all of Mark Lee
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and I can't, but I was listening to all of it as like, shit.
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I probably should have, but I like what?
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I like, man. I like, I like a lot of their
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stuff over the years. Years that even I even listen to
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stike their first two albums. I haven't listened to in a long
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time. Like it wasn't like a discovery.
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It was just like a revisiting after a long time and the
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perspective I have on music and now I guess but I liked a lot
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more than I than I remembered liking it then so he he just
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grows on me man, he's everywhere.
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He's great. So I think John nail you I mean
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John and Annie both said like I was looking to Showcase
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lannigan. Yeah, I don't think I I think I
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fell into. Yeah.
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But the band right has a Groove. I just went with like the like
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the band, like the band together, but I like a lot.
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Yeah. So like there was definitely
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songs where where Lanigan was the star and I was like okay
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that's got to go through and then there was times where the
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band was the star and Mark lanegan on top of it, makes it
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great. Yeah.
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So like I hope that doesn't Make this difficult going forward
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based based on this part of the conversation, but this is, this
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is what this means. So, based on everything we just
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said, John how many do you think we're going to get through
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unanimously? Whatever whatever it is.
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It's not going to be the one because I never win this.
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I'm going to say I'm going to go right down the middle and say
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five. It won't it won't be but thank
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you for the it. Thank you for the better.
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I think at this point it would be nice because I feel like it's
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been at least four times that John's pointed out, man.
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I keep losing these. Yeah it would be nice to see.
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I'm running for the streak shit opposite Undertaker's.
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Yeah, it's yeah, right. 20, 10 and 21.
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Yes. All right.
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Randy. What do you think?
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All right, so we got four, people got 55 songs.
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Would have been a lot more difficult with Fredo here to
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pick one. I don't, I feel like five is the
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right number and I don't feel like it's going to be lower.
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So I'm actually going to go because the last couple ones
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that we've done and I'll say that last year I was on a pretty
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good streak of winning them. I don't know if it was a streak
18:26
in a row or anything like that but it seemed like, you know,
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No, I had like the cars and rancid and a couple other ones
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that that I hit right on the head.
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And it seems like the last couple we fell short like Cloud
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Nothings. We fell a little short of and
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that ended up being seven. And I'm going to go higher, I'm
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going to go six. All right.
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I like, I like the positive. I would like to bet $1 classic.
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It's a classic movie classically.
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What do you think? Brian?
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Um, I was going to say five. I Probably going to be what's
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going to happen. But I'm going to go for because
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I like to look on the bright side of life undercut.
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Yeah. I like the under entered under
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sell myself all the time whenever I can.
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So now how do I go doing? Which assholes you do?
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I do, do do 10 to be bold, dude. Come on.
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You tell em you gotta do, 19. Really.
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Yeah AJ are yeah so do I go Ultra dick move and go low
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because three seems criminally low.
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That's way too low. Like have some respect for us
19:45
man but 7 feels like it could be to that's why gu Hai I agree
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with you. Like you you have the worst
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positions, you know what you you will host the show.
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You know, you don't have to give away your power, like I told
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John this I think was it on bloodrock?
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Rock last time you didn't win one of these.
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I think we're I yeah, yeah. One of the times that make
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myself go last because I don't really want to win it because I
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host the show, um, This feels incredibly wrong.
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I want to go positive here. 47 feels too high.
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So go 3. I hate it.
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I hate it. What happened once reward.
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And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed have come
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through a good portion of the Screaming Trees discography and
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plucked out 20 songs. They were now going to mesh
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together in an attempt to create a top ten starter kit for you.
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In case you have never given Screaming Trees the time of day
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and you better after this when he actually get to the right
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place, this song has come up a lot already.
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I feel like this is it bet it would be.
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Lead to not. I mean it's it's without a doubt
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and conversely already know what your, where you're going with.
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Yes, I know I had it up. You, you just a severely lose us
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on this on the reference at all. Yeah, nearly yeah.
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Lift weights. How soon did I lose here, huh?
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Really, I nearly lost you? Yeah, of course.
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I have it. It's just put it on the board
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right now, man. Yes, here we go.
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I, you know, You can't write like we can't do this without I
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like I every time I come on the show I was going to give myself
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more credit because you know I'm full of myself but I used to
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like I would I used to fucking hate singles and like popular
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songs on the show and you know this is perfect.
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Yeah and now I've just just become a hippie old man.
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No wait. The single soundtrack, our
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actual Bando like I've I'm more like as much as I love pop music
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and went on his whole rant about it, the beginning of the show,
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I'm an antique. Pick some kind of person.
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Like, I don't think usually that that's the collective best obey
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and can have like, Radiohead. The best example of this is
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creep, that's great song. I Wish I wrote it but
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comparatively the worst one of the least inspiring things
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they've ever done and for me doesn't count and it's
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Blasphemous but a good singles, a good single man.
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Yeah, I mean well and so this is one of those songs.
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Again, you kind of want to throw it away because people from
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Probably know it. But when you listen to it, it's
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the fucking Screaming Trees. My honestly, I'll say it right
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now, it's being the show. If this ends up being number one
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with a bullet, I'm happy saying. Yeah.
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I mean it holds up. I've never gotten sick.
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I mean it as a tribute to fucking like none of you wrote
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this fucking song Mark. Lanegan did?
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Yeah, meanwhile be nice but the banter, but this is a good
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example of what I was trying to say before this song.
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Just yeah. I was like 6 in 1992 but this
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song brings me back to that. That point if I feel I don't
23:38
know how to really explain that because yeah a lot of my younger
23:43
days first grade at the time like yeah.
23:47
But I've seemed to kind of fall back in the end.
23:51
I think it's like visuals that you see from movies that came
23:54
out in that are. Yeah.
23:55
And you can kind of piece that together, but yeah, reminds me
23:58
exactly the time with episodic. Yeah.
24:02
But it's funny that like, Again, as many times as I've heard it
24:07
and I did Tire of it at one point, we could not get away
24:12
from it. Here on Ninety Six acts, it was
24:14
like on like all the goddamn time.
24:17
You couldn't lose it, huh? I could not lose it but I
24:23
actually listened to it this time if that makes sense.
24:26
Like I did not tune it out, which could have been easy to
24:30
do. Yeah.
24:31
But the song didn't let me. Yeah, which is fucking
24:34
Important. Yeah I remember that reminds me
24:37
of one of my favorite comedies of all time and this is
24:39
honestly, one of Stanley. Kubrick's favorite movies?
24:42
White Men Can't Jump, where he talks about Jimi Hendrix.
24:45
He's like, you know, you don't hear Jimmy you, like, I like to
24:48
do you listen to it? You don't hear Jimmy, it was
24:50
like, fuck about glass making I do.
24:53
I could, can we can we do a program on my like on White Men?
24:57
Can't Jump because I could talk about that we for like days on
25:00
it? Yeah, it ain't nothing.
25:02
But a thing. I brought a chicken wing on the
25:04
Franklin Burger King. Anyway, I'm sorry was I with my
25:07
clinic? You been streaming trees. but
25:11
yeah, I like People need to give honest, listen to stuff.
25:15
You've been feeling like it at first, you know, I turned one of
25:19
my best friends on, actually the conversation started talking
25:22
about the screaming treats me, like I'm doing a podcast about
25:24
Screaming Trees, because she's a huge Mark lanegan fan.
25:27
And then, I turned her on to Taylor Swift last week because
25:30
we were hanging out and I was playing bid nights or new
25:32
record, which is fucking amazing.
25:34
Yes, I have tickets to see her and fucking may, I can't, I'm
25:38
gonna cry so much dude. Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked
25:41
constantly, but anyway, I got her.
25:43
I got her. Her to give an honest listen to
25:44
Taylor Swift. And she really fucking fell in
25:47
love with her as she should yes. Like everybody should feel like
25:50
I get the concept of like I heard this, but I didn't.
25:53
Listen, like, I listen to it, but I didn't hear yes here.
25:57
Here at now. Yeah.
25:58
All right. John All right, I'm gonna go to
26:03
the dust Another Song though, that you talked about how let's
26:05
go. All I know.
26:07
Yep. Yep.
26:12
Got it. The bottom of my list but I got
26:14
it early. So Randy was talking about being
26:23
taken right back somewhere. This song takes me right back to
26:27
like driving in my car, delivering Chinese food.
26:31
Actually, I think the time and listening to 96 x and this
26:36
coming on. And this song as much of
26:40
rotation is it was in. I never got tired of it and then
26:45
so I used to hang with Mike and Bob.
26:47
All the time, I'd be like Where the fuck did all?
26:50
I know, go. And I mean I thought I guess I
26:54
thought, you know, maybe they had more control over the
26:56
playlist than they did. Yeah, but thinking about because
27:00
you would still here nearly lost you in again, like song that
27:05
songs praises and don't retract anything.
27:08
Like this is the one I think of, when I think of symmetries still
27:11
to this day, I think I think I think we're gonna get a lot.
27:19
I think we said a good president Randy.
27:25
I'm gonna kill the buzz Factory for my one and only song from
27:29
that record and I think it's maybe my favorite Lanigan, vocal
27:35
performance about black Sun morning.
27:37
Oh yeah, I got that. Yeah, yeah, damn, awesome.
27:42
Bad. You lose already Justin.
27:45
Vision, under education for is looking kind of nice right now.
27:52
I am so glad. This is one of the songs is like
28:03
Lanigan front and center. Like he is.
28:06
I mean, it's not like he's ever not but like that was the reason
28:09
I was like, yeah, he sounds fucking great here.
28:13
That's exactly why I need. I'm gonna go now, you gotta go
28:21
try for another unanimous here because we got to sweep the
28:24
first round, right? Okay, fuck, okay, that's on.
28:27
Geez, that changes my answer. Now Okay, I want to turn this
28:33
into a joke that changes my answer more or less.
28:37
I got I got that. I got it too.
28:41
And yeah, there we go. Now we can start losing.
28:47
Let's not agree on anything else, guys.
28:54
You know, it's obvious from the start that yes, it has the
28:58
sound. Yes, it has the energy but like
29:00
it's a different energy and so, you know, that lannigan's going
29:04
to fucking star. He just he had like David Byrne
29:10
has his quote about the better, the singer.
29:12
You are the less serious people. Take what you say more or less
29:15
its parent paraphrasing a little bit.
29:17
But like he just has that grit to his voice where he's not.
29:21
He's not technically a good singer like Bob Dylan, you know,
29:24
I mean, like who's also done a good thing.
29:26
I wasn't saying about doing this, if I was saying he's not,
29:29
but his voice is why, and Neil Young's the same way, like they
29:33
don't have necessarily great voices.
29:35
They have unique voices, but and they're so kind of like, Dirty
29:39
and like, uh, like uh, not uncommon that you take
29:46
everything they say, deeply it, seriously, and I think he has
29:50
that ability as personable. It's like, you can go up to them
29:55
on the street and they can talk in the regular voice and be
29:58
like, oh yeah, that's Neil Young.
29:59
That's Bob Dylan. Yeah.
30:01
Like, you know, you can't talk to, you know, some Mega Star
30:05
Singers at on, on the street and hear their Like a really good
30:11
example of. That is a Dell how she's like
30:14
completely Cockney accent and everything like that.
30:16
And she goes onstage and she absolutely destroys the place.
30:21
She goes her talking. Like she has no class at all to
30:23
having all the class. We can't let she sings.
30:26
I really like the dichotomy of that.
30:31
All right, so no. Now the tank job begins.
30:35
Oh, no. No pressure.
30:38
Well, you know, I gotta take the pressure off because we can't
30:41
hit him. Also any, you know, we can
30:45
actually we can have them all. It's there are no rules here.
30:47
Justin. Oh it's somehow we all have the
30:51
same thing - tell you fucking amazing with it.
30:53
That would be awesome. The Showdown at that point.
30:58
I think I think I think we should all get Let's, let's try.
31:07
Let's throw that curveball do it because I win if we don't agree
31:12
on anything else. So do it.
31:15
How about something about today? I got it.
31:20
I do not. Nope.
31:31
Some little thing about today is Justin and ready.
31:36
All right, John I'm gonna go back to buzz Factory as well.
31:42
How about flower web that was on my list?
31:45
I did not take it. No, it was.
31:48
It was, it was one of my last Cuts have it either.
31:51
I can't see. Good news about a miss.
32:16
Kick yourself. For the show.
32:20
Yes. The Congress of kicking
32:22
yourself. All right.
32:24
Randy. I really wanted to make this
32:27
joke before when you were talking about all I know.
32:30
And I really wanted to my first pick to be black Sun morning.
32:33
But I was thinking like, I, this is a really good follow-up for
32:37
that, and I decided to pass on the joke, but there is another
32:41
connection that I can make. We talked about Queens of the
32:44
Stone Age before. I'm wondering if this song
32:48
title, oh my God, you're going to the same place?
32:51
I think it's going. No one knows yet.
32:56
I have it. I love you for that.
32:57
Thank you. That's exactly why I picked it.
33:03
It was a last-minute addition. I've got it.
33:07
That's three. Well, doesn't well done sir?
33:12
If I'm being honest. I may have cut it because I was
33:16
like, this isn't the Queens of the Stone Age, Dustin.
33:23
I if he's look if we're putting up no one knows his against each
33:27
other. I'm gonna go with Queens of the
33:28
Stone Age. It's like they came first.
33:32
I'm going to go Green Day Okay, I want I'm going to go with what
33:39
I was going to say the first round, but I got the pressure of
33:42
all matching and being one with the universe.
33:46
Smoke rings. Yes.
33:50
No, from invisible Lantern about that.
33:54
Well, as long as it's in even this is the last part of the
34:00
conversation about it. It's Lisa said in the
34:02
conversation, it's on the internet forever down everybody.
34:06
Okay. Now the question is, do we get
34:09
more moving into this combo? How about How about subtle
34:20
poison? That was the last song, I kept
34:23
on my list on the way here. I made the, you know, the 30 but
34:31
did not make the 20. No, I don't have that one
34:34
understood. These two actually have a
34:39
chance, that was a pretty subtle answer.
34:43
Yeah. How did you call that answer
34:45
there, huh? Subtle.
34:48
Okay. Screaming for job, ahead and
34:51
chop down. I fucking missed or McDonald
34:56
every second of every day. We gotta talk about Norman.
35:00
I would love to, of course we do.
35:02
All right, we're gonna do it anyway.
35:07
Um, how about Bed of Roses? Yes, yes, yes.
35:10
Yeah, of course. Hey, are we back again?
35:12
There we go. I lost now.
35:14
Fuck I'm John, you're on your phone off.
35:16
I don't really care. I'm going to happen but it's
35:19
nice. Nice.
35:30
I yeah, I I kind of want to do. I want free to go back in time
35:37
when this comes out and do the show and see how differently I
35:40
would have went. Yeah.
35:42
Chad's of Fredo Fredo was supposed to be here at, I was to
35:45
give him a shout out by my friend, Don Freeman who I was
35:47
talking about earlier because she does right out to and I was
35:52
I told her I was like I'm going to be on the show with him
35:53
tomorrow. I'll say hello to you.
35:55
So Fredo done Freeman. You might remember her from
35:59
years ago. Go says, hello.
36:01
Being also says hello Don Freeman and also hello Fredo.
36:08
All right, so better roses was John.
36:11
Brandy. Oh, I'm just going to bring this
36:15
out. It's just a number, but we're
36:18
not celebrating. Fredo's 54 celebrating my 30 is
36:22
that like something? I guess.
36:25
We passed a lot of people's 30s. What are my numbers?
36:28
These days? I think you're so much John.
36:30
Counted on recently. I think you're somewhere in,
36:32
like, the 40-something range. Where the fuck is my really?
36:35
You're like late 30s, early 40s? I think.
36:38
Yeah. Maybe 40 and June, come on.
36:40
This one for every age, every year.
36:44
I think 45 or 46, for me, I really done that on your going
36:48
on 50 at some point. Yeah, I didn't.
36:50
Why did double the amount of your show that I ever did in my
36:53
own shop? That has politics behind it
36:56
though? But yeah.
36:59
All right, I want to be John's 5.
37:01
How about dollar bill? Of course, I honestly thought
37:04
about bringing that up in this round to bring us all back
37:06
together. I don't have it.
37:08
You don't really know. I'm genuinely shocked.
37:13
I do that's three. I gotta be honest.
37:16
Like there was a point where I probably could have taken all of
37:19
sweet. Oblivion I didn't I hate being
37:22
that guy. I I literally thought about
37:24
saying in on the air on the way here I was like we could just if
37:26
you want to pick 10 songs just put.
37:27
So you're moving on there and just call it a day and just cut
37:30
10. You have to pick 10 songs from
37:32
Bolivian on this list. I tried I definitely tried to
37:36
get album representation which I think I failed to say.
37:40
Aye. I got it.
37:41
But three or four. Yeah.
37:42
Yeah. So but yes I made it even
37:46
because I after I listening to them what is it?
37:50
Uncle anesthetic do next. So I had five and four and those
37:57
album covers look similar and I was right in my list.
38:00
I'm like did I pick mine from this record?
38:03
I was like no that sounds right. Sweet.
38:05
Sweet. Oblivion I could pick nine from
38:06
that? Yeah.
38:06
It's like oh no, I didn't maybe. Mine is was heavily front loaded
38:10
with suitable lead at first it was mainly just Our of like,
38:13
what other songs can I not put from Zeus movie?
38:16
All right, Brian. Okay.
38:18
Well, I'm going to throw a curve ball then since we all just came
38:22
with dollar bill, Clairvoyance know that was its own EP or
38:28
something. Right?
38:30
That was their first record clairvoyants.
38:32
Yeah. No.
38:34
I don't have it. Yeah, man.
38:40
Who cares? We already.
38:42
Rhian half of everything so far. So, Or half of what we need.
38:49
I get to be, I get to be a smug prick, still have my, my own, my
38:54
one on an island song. How about dying days?
39:01
Yeah yeah I got it. Nope and now them to I honestly
39:11
had to like watch myself with dust to I really enjoy that
39:16
record. A lot I did to it wasn't very
39:18
successful for them like we're like artistically or
39:22
commercially but like I think it's amazing.
39:24
I was very cautious with it because I knew that was the
39:27
album a new Again. Yeah.
39:29
So like I knew that I had to separate Nostalgia from what I'm
39:34
trying to do. That was the only album where I
39:36
had that. Yeah.
39:37
Whereas everything else was just like, I could just take this
39:41
little bit, so I really enjoy Mark.
39:43
Lanegan with not not having anything to prove anymore, you
39:47
know? All right.
39:50
This is me, John. Let's go to dust then.
39:54
How about make my mind? Yes sir.
39:59
No, I'm totally fine with that going through when it all comes
40:08
said and done. As far as, as of right now, I
40:20
think some of the twos are still technically alive.
40:24
All right. Don't think it's gonna last long
40:26
with the choose on. I mean we got plenty of.
40:29
Okay. Randy I'll stick around on Dust.
40:34
How about traveler? No.
40:38
Nope. Oh wow.
40:41
I thought that'll II really did if I cut it for the name of for
40:44
in the name of posterity and covering all the album's Huxley.
40:49
And sometimes there's there's those.
40:52
Yeah, and again, I had to watch myself with this record.
41:03
I'll go with what I did. Pick from that record, sworn,
41:05
and broken. No ma'am.
41:09
Yes, nice. Somebody likes me out there
41:15
alive, but barely. Barely holding on.
41:20
So that was Twilight singers left.
41:27
Yeah, I feel like I have an entire list.
41:29
Yeah, it's crazy. It kind of sucks agreeing with
41:32
each other. All right.
41:37
How about Shadow of the Season? Yep, yes, yes.
41:41
Yes. Let's do it and it has been
41:45
surpassed once again. All we can hope for is that you
42:01
know Randy was right and he actually surpassed what he
42:03
thought too. And I think that she's now just
42:07
a fishing guide. Yeah you nearly lost.
42:11
You nearly lost twos? Why did I do that?
42:17
Instead you're way better than me.
42:18
You're so much funnier. All right.
42:20
Shut. It is seasoned with miso John.
42:25
Start occurring to me already. Just going wild swings now, man.
42:29
How about back to Invisible? Lantern lines and circles?
42:35
Mmm, that was a really late cut. No actually have that one.
42:41
Hey yes, it was number 19. I'm also going to go on and
42:57
visible lanter. There were a couple of these
42:58
songs in the mid like later, latter, part of the record that
43:02
I really liked. And it kind of felt like a
43:06
little punk, a little mod, one of the songs, I'm not sure if it
43:10
was this song or not kind of felt like the song stepping
43:13
stone, which is a lot of people would say, like kind of the 60s
43:17
birth of what punk punk would become.
43:21
And I can't remember if this one was the one but This is the
43:25
second I awake. No, just to tell you.
43:29
No. Yeah, right.
43:33
In time take chances. No, I agree.
43:36
I respect it. This is definitely the time
43:38
where you take a long as you're not sure of, because what's the
43:41
worst that happens? You don't get it.
43:43
The best is like somebody else goes.
43:45
Yeah, me too. That's not, like, I'm, like,
43:48
hung on this song saying guys, what the hell is wrong with you?
43:52
Like we got six that are in that we're probably six of the best
43:57
songs that I can look at this list and say you know and then
44:01
the other four So far like those are the top.
44:05
Yeah. Well as a 6 out of 10 personally
44:09
I respect six a lot sir. You're up on the seven now.
44:16
Butterfly. Yes.
44:21
You don't have it man. I don't either.
44:24
I drove here for you now. How do you how do you do?
44:27
How do you do sir? The family?
44:31
That was, that was victim to the can pick all of this.
44:34
That's exactly what happened because it's like two more left
44:39
in that record. And I just was like, I can't
44:48
I'll do one from from sweet, Oblivion.
44:51
Then for celebrations past. No, nope, I had to make Cuts,
45:01
you know, that's just it is and it looks like we might end up
45:06
having, you know what? I just thought of right now
45:08
Justin will be a new wrinkle for the show due to cut down songs
45:13
with the artists here. I can you imagine us doing our
45:17
favorite part of the United States songs and crisp blue on
45:20
the show and in his face be like no I cut it and I cut that one
45:23
and he was like, oh I Love that song and I got and then he tells
45:26
us the story and then we're like let's do that happened.
45:30
With stick out a little bit. It was like oh that was awesome.
45:37
Ryan from discount to hear that conversation with Ryan from
45:48
discount after the fact is where you go patreon.com slash.
45:52
Oh hi Justin. All right.
45:54
John ah, Alright let's try to. Let's try to get past Randy
45:58
here. How about Uncle anesthesia title
46:01
track really? Yeah.
46:06
Okay look man it's warm and you got to you got to make changes.
46:11
Trenches is great but I think I might
46:24
have one. Or that we're all going to get
46:26
my next pick up the somebody for the first.
46:29
I'm just shocked that I spelled anesthesia, right?
46:32
I do want to give myself a little shout out, my playlist is
46:36
called Screaming Trees hugger, just let you guys know how
46:40
clever. I had much more clever than
46:43
mine. Them trees scream.
46:47
I kind of, I kind of like your version better.
46:50
All right. Randy.
46:51
That famous guy said it was his name.
46:53
That was his name, Jesus. Jake's a low of Ashes.
47:00
Yes, I got it. Yep, I have it too.
47:03
What was the song? I didn't hear a Halo of Ashes.
47:06
No. Oh, you should have just changed
47:10
at that moment. I have one for that record.
47:12
I think, I think we're all going to get.
47:13
I hope anyway. Do you have a conversation?
47:31
Dying days. When it said do we do?
47:34
Yeah. Did we?
47:36
Yes. Oh shit, I got three, never
47:37
mind. I thought we were able to
47:39
connect on it. I'm not even paying attention to
47:41
what's going on. I'm gonna go make a left turn
47:44
then and say I See Stars. No from clairvoyants.
47:51
No, I actually like that record more than I did.
47:54
When I first heard it. I love that.
47:57
You're getting to throw several. All the whiffs I love it.
48:02
For me. It's like Gish I guess not my
48:05
favorite but I really respect it.
48:08
Like at that, that's not the band I love but I respect it.
48:12
I get it. I think I'm sitting with on the.
48:18
I hope. I hope I do.
48:21
I got four left. I have one.
48:24
It's seven, two, three, four. How's the agreeable?
48:29
One to the I think four is. So maybe we do two rounds and
48:35
then dumped out because Randy, I still have work.
48:38
John, I rather still have several.
48:41
All right. Um, How about Alice said?
48:46
No, no, very late cup but no. How about a winter song?
49:02
Hmm, that was what I cut out to get no one knows in.
49:06
Hmm. Nobody on them.
49:12
No yeah Randy same record trouble times.
49:21
No. Nope, we all were one of the
49:26
record. We love Dragon Boat.
49:28
We have to cut stuff. It was a fluke man we just can't
49:30
agree on things now. All right Brian.
49:33
All right, these are all going to be widths but I don't care
49:36
crawl space from last words. No actually no, really liked
49:41
some of the stuff on there. Yeah, we didn't we didn't have
49:44
that one on. The I was it was it not a part
49:46
of the show? No.
49:48
Did I miss that conversation? Well, I was also in the Ramones
49:53
group and didn't pay attention to the it was the same one.
49:55
Yes, the problem. Okay, yeah, yeah.
49:58
Well, I didn't change it because I, well, I'm sorry.
50:00
I only have 18 songs on my list. Said for not including that.
50:05
I don't think it's going to matter at this point.
50:07
So this will call this one, our last round.
50:09
We'll look like I said, this is the time to get those out there.
50:11
I still I still have one more actually.
50:16
So we're good. How about gospel plow?
50:20
No. Another leg cut.
50:22
No. How about?
50:33
Look at you from dust? Nope.
50:46
I think I should be able to find one person on this Beyond the
50:49
Horizon Beyond this Horizon. No, yes.
50:55
Found me on it. Okay, got it going nowhere, but
50:59
it's here. You're not going Beyond the
51:02
Horizon with this one and I think it's nice to go.
51:05
I wasn't the only one. All right, Brian?
51:08
Alright, I'm going to just with the last two here.
51:14
Lay your head down. No but that was Heavy In
51:19
Contention I think. Yeah cool I'll take that as a
51:24
win a small victory as faith and where would say alright so I'm
51:28
just going to dump out here starting from the top.
51:32
The secret kind though. Yes.
51:36
Oh nice no. The choose Dead story of, yeah,
51:53
I think so. Yeah.
51:54
Not necessarily will see. I've three is sorry.
52:04
No. I should learn how to write.
52:10
Learn to write note to self, learn to write with a tween,
52:17
shall meet? No, no.
52:27
I'll be very surprised if anybody has my last one end of
52:33
the universe. Nope, almost.
52:35
But now, you know, The end is nigh crazy solo at the end.
52:46
Yeah. Ivy.
52:50
No, no, no. I wanted some of that early
52:54
stuff. There's nothing from
52:59
Clairvoyance on here. I was surprised.
53:01
I thought some somebody we didn't have that one on our
53:04
list, either. How shit look, it wasn't paying
53:06
attention. Last but not least, Night Comes
53:08
creeping. No, no.
53:12
That one. I like that one because it kind
53:15
of sounded like what was about to come.
53:18
So that's cool man. I would have had so much more
53:24
from I was six, I have a caught between no closer now and walk
53:39
through to the side. No, no.
53:45
So you only have one left and I have to.
53:49
Yeah, I only have one left. You all right, what's your one
53:53
Transfiguration know? Yeah, that was my my, my
53:59
guaranteed with I knew in my list.
54:03
My other two are ocean of confusion and shadowsong, both
54:09
hit in the dust. I like Shadow song that was like
54:13
22 or 23. Yeah.
54:32
Without question. So the six in the shadows are
54:36
comes great responsibility, right?
54:39
I'm not responsible for anything shadow of the Season near
54:42
nasties more or less Bed of Roses.
54:45
All I know black Sun morning and as already mentioned those six
54:49
we've art that's already hot start like we've already wanted
54:53
you. You already like this.
54:54
Big Trees. Yeah, by that list.
54:56
All right, so let's separate this down.
54:59
Sorry, I didn't mean to talk against them, they're just
55:01
screaming, trees. Not the Screaming.
55:02
Trees is. All right, so yeah, the twos, I
55:07
mean, look, is there a to somebody wants actually.
55:10
Let's let's tackle these threes first and then we'll bring in
55:13
the twos. Third got dollar, bill dollar.
55:15
Bill is my vote. I was the odd man out there.
55:19
Yeah, so I mean, if you guys are with that then We can put that
55:25
through. Yeah I'm cursed.
55:27
Yeah so that gives us a two left to play with so we got no one
55:30
knows Halo of Ashes. Dying days and make my mind.
55:36
When we got to to play with was make my mind two or three, those
55:40
three really? Yeah, that was a to okay.
55:43
Yeah, it's I got me. You and Randy.
55:46
I was I was out on that. So I will concede that one
55:49
because you were the odd man out in the last one.
55:52
So I think it's only fair. And plus I would like to not
55:55
have some more sweet Oblivion on there.
55:57
I think are destined to be a little more diverse as much as
55:59
we should just listen this weekend with you.
56:05
All right, so with these three no one knows hail of Ashes,
56:09
Dying Days. John you said like you you're
56:12
not sure but is one of those threes stronger or is one of the
56:18
twos stronger. I mean I would say I mean
56:22
something early on I think would be interesting to have.
56:26
I mean, I'm looking at I think lines and circles probably
56:30
deserves the spotter. I think I'm like I was sworn in
56:33
broken. Well I was, I was being punished
56:37
for making. I was considering making an
56:39
older one. My number one.
56:42
Yeah. Our last book.
56:44
I think those, I think those three lines and circles Beyond
56:47
this Horizon. And what was that one sickness
56:50
warning? Broken.
56:51
I think probably deserve at least to a shot.
56:54
I would really like to put lines and circles through even though
56:59
there's only two. Yeah I would like to have that
57:03
record purpose of it, I think. Yeah, I agree.
57:06
Yeah, alright, so let's do that. And that leads us to Randy's
57:15
final say. So now I'm not going to go
57:19
because I was gonna, I was really thinking about putting
57:21
Smoke Rings in. You know what?
57:23
It was going to be between that Enlighten.
57:24
Lies, the circumcised lie. Yeah, I agree.
57:28
Well, I think all the records do need representation.
57:31
Here we have everything so far. Right.
57:34
Everything's on. We have black Sun morning, we
57:37
have two roses roses. So, I guess I got to go back to
57:43
this and say that no one knows Dying Days.
57:47
Halo of Ashes. Here, dying days.
57:55
I mean, this sort of helps, I think.
57:59
It'll help me. Yeah, let's do it.
58:27
Yeah, I was gonna say listen to Halo bashes, but I think that
58:30
Dying Days definitely gives you the soul of Mark lanegan.
58:38
Yeah, it goes on. Yeah.
58:50
All right, so shadow of the Season nearly lost.
58:53
You more or less Bed of Roses. All I know, black Sun morning
58:56
dollar bill, make my mind lines and circles Dying Days.
58:59
John of those 10. Which one is the one?
59:04
I mean, Brian said at the beginning, it's nearly lost you,
59:08
anybody dispute? No.
59:09
No, yeah, I mean it's got to be right.
59:12
Yeah. Maybe song is able to take you
59:18
back to an Sarah and time like a specific era in time and make
59:23
you think of that. Like, that's all, that's all you
59:26
need that. Like, you know, I can't I can't
59:30
say that about any of their other songs really, as
59:33
specifically as nearly lost you go ahead, please.
59:41
I was just going to say like I know I'm repeating myself at
59:46
this point. I wanted to ignore it but when
59:48
you actually listen to the song and you actually take it in.
59:52
Yeah, it's Screaming. Trees is fuck.
59:54
Yeah. And I would be willing to wager
59:56
that there's a lot of others mean, he's out there who just
1:00:00
heard it a lot, but didn't listen to it and you should
1:00:03
listen to it. Yeah.
1:00:04
Because it's good. You know, it sounds like them.
1:00:07
William has a, I was good. I was like the only other I
1:00:11
still think it's a lesser choice, I don't mean quality of
1:00:14
song, but all I know it was gonna be my only other choice.
1:00:18
I think it's up there, but I think this, I think this hits
1:00:22
the fucking spot. I wholeheartedly agree.
1:00:24
I would literally what I said before, we have started.
1:00:27
Yes. All right, let's do it.
1:00:29
Then, let's lock it in. Yeah, move it to the top.
1:00:32
Wow, man. We were so agreeable today.
1:00:34
I like and that's it. The things that it has on all, I
1:00:38
know, it's from the jump. It's like okay cool.
1:00:43
Alright so nearly lost you Shadow the season more or less,
1:00:46
bitter? Roses.
1:00:47
All I know. Black Sun morning dollar bill.
1:00:49
Make my mind lines and circles Dying Days.
1:00:52
Let's put nearly lost. You get it to me, son.
1:01:10
This is one of those rare song. Where they were able to make a
1:01:13
verse feel like a course. Because they repeat that part
1:01:18
and like you just don't think of that at all.
1:01:20
But I think like you talked about the pop songs before.
1:01:23
I think that sort of makes for a good pop song when you could do
1:01:26
that, because it's just kind of instinctual memory that you
1:01:29
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1:01:31
going back to that and I guess that's what creates the you're
1:01:35
warm. I'm a big fan of like,
1:01:38
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1:01:41
And like I like what people great conventions like my
1:01:46
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1:01:53
literally no, of course, that's off.
1:01:54
It's really just a poem that gets gradually comes to you as a
1:01:59
crescendo but like there's no other pop song like that in the
1:02:04
60s. Like I I love subverting
1:02:07
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1:02:11
We didn't subvert any expectations here.
1:02:13
We did tossed nearly lost that you but you should listen to it
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1:02:19
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