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‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany | KRATOM · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: I am six forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 2: November twelfth. For the last few days, I've been telling
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  Speaker 2: you the story of this young man, a Don, who
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  Speaker 2: was a photographer, the photographer at my daughter's wedding and
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  Speaker 2: I had a blowout party at my house, the one
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  Speaker 2: that I'm going to do for the rest of my life,
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  Speaker 2: and he came and photographed that one. And I also
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  Speaker 2: told you that he is now sitting in El Salvador
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  Speaker 2: having been deported. And there's a story there I want
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  Speaker 2: to share with you because a lot of people think, oh,
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  Speaker 2: illegal aliens, boom, done gone, But there are very many
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  Speaker 2: levels of illegal aliens and legal aliens, and within there
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  Speaker 2: there are many levels.
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  Speaker 1: Jeannette, who happens to be.
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  Speaker 2: The mother in law of a Don, is here and
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  Speaker 2: you as one of Lindsay's best friends, and that's how
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  Speaker 2: we hooked up. And Jeanette, first of all, thank you
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  Speaker 2: for being with us on the show and taking the
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  Speaker 2: time to do this.
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  Speaker 1: But what I want to do is throw.
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  Speaker 2: It to you and explain the story of oudon coming
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  Speaker 2: to the United States, what happened at the border and
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  Speaker 2: everything that's gone through.
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  Speaker 1: Because this is a crazy story.
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  Speaker 2: And even those of you that say, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: we should throw him out, you know, he's illegal. That's
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  Speaker 2: not fair to the rest of Americans. I mean, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to say, there are other stories here. So Jeanette,
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  Speaker 2: go at it. Good morning, microphone, there we go.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Bill, are you hi? Thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: you guys for having me here today.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I just want to first start out and say,
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  Speaker 3: as a daughter of a Vietnam veteran, I am so
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  Speaker 3: indebted to this country. We have freedoms that other countries
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  Speaker 3: don't have. So first and foremost, yesterday, Happy Veterans Day
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  Speaker 3: to all our veterans.
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  Speaker 1: And with that said, let's go for it.
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  Speaker 3: My son in law, a Don, he came to this
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  Speaker 3: country when he was thirteen years old as an unaccompanied miner.
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  Speaker 3: He crossed over the border and he was checked as
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  Speaker 3: a legal entry for a unaccompanied minor, So right out
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  Speaker 3: of the gate right there. You know, when you have
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  Speaker 3: a miner that's fled their country because his aunt was
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  Speaker 3: brutally murdered. A Don literally found his aunt at the
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  Speaker 3: front door of his home. Now that put enough fear
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  Speaker 3: in that child. For him to buy an airplane ticket
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  Speaker 3: and fly here by himself, that speaks volumes. And so
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  Speaker 3: he sought out to come to our country where he
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  Speaker 3: could be safe. And I think that that needs to
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  Speaker 3: be honored.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and I want to get and it does. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's a given at the end of this conversation. And
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you in that one. But let's talk procedurally.
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  Speaker 2: What happened. He got off the airplane, So he buys
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  Speaker 2: a ticket. Did you even need a visa at the time?
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  Speaker 2: Did he have a passport?
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  Speaker 1: You know, at the time he did not.
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  Speaker 3: He came here with he was thirteen, He had no
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  Speaker 3: no driver's license, no ID.
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  Speaker 1: So he gets off. What happens is he gets off the.
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  Speaker 3: Airplane, gets off the airplane. His mother was already living here.
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  Speaker 3: She had left El Salvador much earlier to try and
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  Speaker 3: come here and make a life so that she could
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  Speaker 3: potentially bring her children here. And then once her sister
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  Speaker 3: was murdered, you know, all things changed and the kids
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  Speaker 3: just said, work, we need to leave. So a dawn
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  Speaker 3: came to our country and he was enrolled in school
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  Speaker 3: junior high school, went to junior high high school and
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  Speaker 3: when you're under eighteen, he still was protected by the
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  Speaker 3: asylum that he came over here, and so, yes, so
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  Speaker 3: when you're a minor and you have legal which he did,
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  Speaker 3: he was protected up until he was eighteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: So at eighteen he became an illegal, undocumented human being
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  Speaker 2: here in America.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, So that starts when he's eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: Jeanette is with us, I'm telling the story about her
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  Speaker 2: son in law has been deported and he is now
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  Speaker 2: in El Salvador. And just before the break, she was
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  Speaker 2: explaining that he came to America as an unaccompanied miner
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  Speaker 2: at the age of thirteen. He's twenty six or twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven now. He got off the airplane at the age
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  Speaker 2: of thirteen, went right into the system when the schools graduated,
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  Speaker 2: and until he was eighteen years old, he was protected.
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  Speaker 1: At eighteen, he became.
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  Speaker 2: An illegal, even though he was granted legal status as
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  Speaker 2: a minor the second he turned eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: That was done.
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  Speaker 2: So, Jeanette, let's go through a timeline what happens there
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  Speaker 2: at the end of which he ends up in a
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  Speaker 2: detention center at an El Salvador.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, so you know, once, like you said, Bill, once
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  Speaker 3: he turns eighteen, he is now no longer protected and he,
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  Speaker 3: as an eighteen year old, needs to start the process
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  Speaker 3: of becoming a citizen. So Adawn has hired a lawyer
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  Speaker 3: and has filed an application, and he's now in the system.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, eighteen year old spending money on lawyers.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is not something that kids have access to.
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  Speaker 3: So this takes time. Application was filed and nothing ever
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  Speaker 3: became of it. We don't really know did the lawyer
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  Speaker 3: file the proper paperwork? Did he just take a don's
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  Speaker 3: money and not process it.
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  Speaker 2: Now he applied for asylum based on the fact that
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  Speaker 2: his aunt was murdered and drop off in front of
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  Speaker 2: the house by MS thirteen. Correct, So that is if
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  Speaker 2: you are in genuine fear of your life and prosecute
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  Speaker 2: or and persecution.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's that is a basis for asylum, absolutely hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's so hard to understand how
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  Speaker 3: a Dawn could slip through the cracks here and that
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  Speaker 3: applications can't be processed because the pathway to citizenship was
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  Speaker 3: there right out of the gate. So time passes, nothing
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  Speaker 3: is done. He ends up moving out of his mom's home.
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  Speaker 3: He moves into Orange, into the Orange County area. He
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  Speaker 3: ends up with a court date. He goes in and
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  Speaker 3: you know they don't want to give him his citizenship.
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  Speaker 3: Now it makes no sense to me, you know a
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  Speaker 3: Don then to.
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  Speaker 1: Wait to take does he physically go to court? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And what happened at that court at that.
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  Speaker 3: Court date they wanted to deport him. Now, how do
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  Speaker 3: you have a child that's brought over here and give
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  Speaker 3: an asylum and protected till he's eighteen years of age?
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  Speaker 3: Then he becomes eighteen and one day and now you're
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  Speaker 3: no longer protected.
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  Speaker 1: So did he have his court a day in court?
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  Speaker 1: Was he in front of a judge?
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  Speaker 4: He was?
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  Speaker 2: And how did the judge render a verdict? What was
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  Speaker 2: the decision to port?
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  Speaker 1: Wow? To port?
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  Speaker 3: And so you know at that point, you know, a Don,
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  Speaker 3: he's a young he's a kid's he's here, his family's here.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to fight to stay here and do what
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  Speaker 3: he thinks is correct, and that is you know, hire
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  Speaker 3: another lawyer, wait file another application. You know, the years
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  Speaker 3: have gone by. Don's only twenty six years old, so
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  Speaker 3: it's not like a huge amount of time has gone by,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, he ends up marrying my daughter, which
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  Speaker 3: we all know that when you marry someone, hopefully that
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  Speaker 3: helps your citizenship, right.
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  Speaker 1: And he used to be almost automatic.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and now it doesn't seem to matter. That doesn't
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  Speaker 3: seem to be it can it can help you, or
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  Speaker 3: it cannot at all, So it can go either direction.
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  Speaker 3: Once my daughter and a Don were married, they hired
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  Speaker 3: a new lawyer. They went back, they filed another application.
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  Speaker 3: They put on the application that he's married a citizen.
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  Speaker 3: A Don went and did his biometrics through Homeland Security,
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  Speaker 3: which you know is a very brave thing to do
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  Speaker 3: because you're basically going to Homeland Security and you're surrendering yourself.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying, I'm here, I'm here illegally, but I have
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  Speaker 3: a pathway and I'm on it, so please show me
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  Speaker 3: some grace and get me through the system like I've
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  Speaker 3: been attempting to do. And so at that point, I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, honestly, I think it's like the that is
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  Speaker 3: when it became very fragile, when a Dawn became let's say,
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  Speaker 3: on the radar, because he had been here and the
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  Speaker 3: judge originally had wanted to deport him, and.
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  Speaker 5: There was a deportation order correct, and he was appealing
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  Speaker 5: it absolutely, and so then to be forthright and file
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  Speaker 5: an application should h married to a citizen, which we
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  Speaker 5: all know that their marriage is very real and very
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  Speaker 5: you know, very much true.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the mother in law, so I can speak, you know,
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  Speaker 3: vouch for them. You know, none of it makes sense
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  Speaker 3: and and down literally he's he's a photographer. He has
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  Speaker 3: been paying taxes. He has a ten number. He's been
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  Speaker 3: paying taxes to our government.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the government wants their money on any circumstances,
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  Speaker 2: So that one is off the that's off. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: off the plate. Because you know, you could rob a
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  Speaker 2: bank and they want you to. I can embezzle money
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  Speaker 2: and they still want the money. But how did he
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  Speaker 2: get picked up and end up in a detention center
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  Speaker 2: and then deport it? That tell me about those circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: So a down. Obviously we all know he's a photographer, right,
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  Speaker 3: and he was hired by a company that wanted him
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  Speaker 3: to fly out to Texas and he, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: my kids are young, they need the money.
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  Speaker 1: Bill.
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  Speaker 3: He took the job right, and unfortunately he bought an
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  Speaker 3: airplane ticket and he used his passport and I believe
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  Speaker 3: that that triggered Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 2: His password from El Salvador, right, okay, and they and
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  Speaker 2: they picked him up, right, they.
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  Speaker 1: Picked him up.
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  Speaker 3: So when my son in law entered the airport, they
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  Speaker 3: knew he would be entering that day, and he was
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  Speaker 3: taken at the airport, taken to a detention center. And
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  Speaker 3: then you know, sadly from there on out. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be real honest with you, We're not really treating
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  Speaker 3: these people like humans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know their story after story about how they're
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  Speaker 2: being treated. And that's one one of the things. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's changed completely in terms of immigration. And as you
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, heretofore before this administration, what you described to
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  Speaker 2: be an automatic path of citizenship, it will be an
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  Speaker 2: automatic green card. I mean almost a second that he
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  Speaker 2: married your daughter. Absolutely today it is a whole different world.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens people get caught and they fell through
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  Speaker 2: the cracks he did, and that that is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: And there are so many people in What really pisses
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  Speaker 2: me off is christinoum or the head of Homeland Security,
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  Speaker 2: because she says over and over again, it's only the
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  Speaker 2: worst of the worst, is all we pick.
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  Speaker 1: Up just though, and she will not back down from that.
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  Speaker 3: And I can tell you it's not the worst of
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  Speaker 3: the worst, because my son in law is the salt
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  Speaker 3: and light of.
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  Speaker 1: The earth and he is the last person that he's
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  Speaker 1: a good kid, he is a good king. And that's
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  Speaker 1: just the system.
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  Speaker 2: And we do have a basis for asylum, and there
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  Speaker 2: are legitimate reasons people have asylum, one of them being
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  Speaker 2: if you're coming from a country where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: die in this case, you know, being a victim of
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  Speaker 2: MS thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: And if you stay, you're dead. We have a program
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  Speaker 1: for that.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not someone who's crossing over the border illegally, none
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  Speaker 2: of that. All right, It's unfortunately a terrific story. And
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  Speaker 2: if you want more information, you're not going to get
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  Speaker 2: it because I'm not going to give you last name,
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  Speaker 2: and I have no more information.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks for listening, Jadette, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Bill.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, what a pleasure, What a story, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: All Right?
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  Speaker 2: It is a Wednesday morning and it is time for
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  Speaker 2: well medical news. Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for
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  Speaker 2: Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Jim, we were just talking.
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  Speaker 2: About you, and we were discussing whether or not you're
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  Speaker 2: legal here in the United States because you look pretty brown.
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  Speaker 4: I might be. I might be taken off.
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  Speaker 1: Jim, it's Neil. This is an intervention Keeney. Is that
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  Speaker 1: Hispanic or Mexicano?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, depends on how you spell it.
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  Speaker 1: But I see that's very funny too. All right, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to ask you about.
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  Speaker 2: Kratm kr a t O M, which I never heard of,
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  Speaker 2: and it's become big news.
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  Speaker 1: And of course is it legit?
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  Speaker 2: Is it not legit because it's one of those non
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  Speaker 2: FDA approved whatever is right?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? This is this is a dangerous kind of
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  Speaker 4: drug potentially, but it's got this wide range of what
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about when we talk about kretom. It's so
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  Speaker 4: it's used in Asia and a lot of times workers
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  Speaker 4: use it. It's a leaf and they can chew the leaf,
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  Speaker 4: they can make a tea out of it, and in
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  Speaker 4: those cases it's in low doses. With all the other
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  Speaker 4: chemicals that are found in the leaf altogether, it becomes
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a stimulant. So it's like their morning coffee.
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  Speaker 4: They get up early in the morning to avoid the
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  Speaker 4: midday sun to when they're going out to work, So
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  Speaker 4: they're getting up at four in the morning taking a
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  Speaker 4: little of those kretam t and then they might do
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  Speaker 4: it again in the afternoon a little bit. In higher
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  Speaker 4: doses though, it has opiate like effects, right, so it
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  Speaker 4: reduces pain, and that's where it kirked the interest that
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  Speaker 4: people in the United States, and for a while there
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  Speaker 4: we thought maybe this could be an alternative or an
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  Speaker 4: aid to get people off opiate addiction. But the higher
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  Speaker 4: doses and these are now we're making it synthetically, so
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  Speaker 4: the stuff you buy it in a gas station, the
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  Speaker 4: synthetic cretom doesn't have all the other chemicals a leaf
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  Speaker 4: has in it. It is super high doses, like one
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  Speaker 4: hundred times the dose you would get in the te
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  Speaker 4: of the active ingredient that actually reduces pain, and it
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  Speaker 4: has these opiate like effects. It is even more addictive
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  Speaker 4: than opiates that we have on the market area.
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  Speaker 1: And it is legal. I can buy it at a
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  Speaker 1: gas station.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right now it's it's legal in the state of California,
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  Speaker 4: but in LA they're talking about removing it and they're
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  Speaker 4: going to They're going to start going into gas stations
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  Speaker 4: and citing them if they're selling it, so it'll people
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  Speaker 4: can still buy it online. It's illegal in six other states,
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  Speaker 4: but it's legal here. The s DA hasn't come out
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  Speaker 4: with a stance on it, so federally it's still legal.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's still available for purchase. And it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of a scary drug because the people who take it,
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  Speaker 4: they say, wow, you are quickly addicted to it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you think, when this sort of thing happens,
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  Speaker 2: and you've dealt with this for a long time, Once
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  Speaker 2: something is deemed dangerous, how quickly does it take the
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  Speaker 2: FDA to jump on it and make it illegal and
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  Speaker 2: that translates into some kind of legislation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends. I mean you've seen designer drugs took decades,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to get outlawed, where the designer they were
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  Speaker 4: just designing. They were outlong one specific chemical and then
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  Speaker 4: a chemist would change it by one molecule and suddenly
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  Speaker 4: technically it wasn't illegal anymore. So it took them decades
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  Speaker 4: to sort that out and get it so they could
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  Speaker 4: make the whole class illegal. So they can be very
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  Speaker 4: slow on this stuff. And the other thing is the
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  Speaker 4: reason you haven't heard of it. And the reason that
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  Speaker 4: flies under the radar is because it's often mixed. The
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  Speaker 4: people who use this often are mixing it with alcohol
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  Speaker 4: or other drugs and so, and this doesn't come up
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  Speaker 4: on a drug test. So the problem is when we
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  Speaker 4: see them in the er and their final cause of
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  Speaker 4: death is listed, criton is usually not found in there.
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  Speaker 4: So this has kind of been flying under the radar
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  Speaker 4: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: All right, big story that happening, and it looks it
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  Speaker 2: seems pretty problematic the baby formula recall because they're a
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  Speaker 2: botulism outbreak and it looks like it's getting worse that
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  Speaker 2: the numbers are just starting to come in.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about that, please?
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  Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah, First let's talk about botulism. That's botulism is
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  Speaker 4: as a disease that you get when you have the
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  Speaker 4: toxin from the bosulism organism in your body. That's the
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  Speaker 4: same chemical we use for botox, right, That's what botox
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  Speaker 4: is short for as botulism toxin, and it works by
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  Speaker 4: blocking a nerve conductor acetylcholine and paralyzes your muscles. So
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  Speaker 4: when you get sick from this. That's what happens to
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  Speaker 4: these babies is the botulism. Now, botulism can't grow in
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  Speaker 4: an acidic environment, and so babies their stomach isn't quite
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  Speaker 4: isn't as acidic as adults yet, and that's why when
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  Speaker 4: they ingest these spores, they can actually grow in their stomach,
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  Speaker 4: in their body and create an infection. If for normal adults,
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  Speaker 4: if you just ingested the spore, nothing would happen. If
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  Speaker 4: you have to ingest the actual toxin for you to
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  Speaker 4: get paralyzed from it. So that's what we're finding in
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  Speaker 4: this baby formula. More common story that we get is
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  Speaker 4: honey honey has botulism spores in it has nothing to
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  Speaker 4: do with it. Whether it's raw honey or commercially processed honey,
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  Speaker 4: all honey has the potential have this botulism spores. They
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  Speaker 4: can survive in crazy environments. They're they're hard to kill.
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  Speaker 4: You can't you know, boil up to one hundred degrees
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and celsius, it still won't kill them. You need to
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: auto clay things to get to kill this toxin or
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: the spore. It can live for decades in the soil.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Uv doesn't kill it. It's infectives don't kill it. So
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: it's hard to get rid of.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And is that why it's so dangerous because once it's there,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: is there and it's not leaving.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the environment already. I mean, if you
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: went out and grabbed some of your potting soil and
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: then created the perfect environment for bosulism to grow, you
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: could probably grow your own bosulism in your backyard.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: No, and I know I'm talking about once it's in
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: your body.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: What's in your body? Yeah, it's so for again for adults,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: once the toxins in your body, it'll eventually break down
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: and we can use antibodies to kind of to latch
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: onto it so it's ineffective, and then we can support
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: you through you know, breathing mechanisms, you know, being on
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: a ventilator, that type of thing, until it all comes
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: out of your body and people do just fine afterwards.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: It's usually no long term effects. For babies because it's
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: growing in their body. It comes on more slowly, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: what happens is they get a little floppy. You know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: they lose muscle tone, they're not eating real well, they're drooling,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: they're not having good bowel movement. Everything just slows down
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and as they get more floppy. That's one of our differentially.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I wonder if this baby has botulism, and then we
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: can do the same thing, give them the antibody and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: also put them on ventilators if they're not breathing well
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: or that type of thing.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And so this baby form, the whole thing has been recalled.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And I noticed that the word organic is there, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that kills you every time. I think the takeaway here,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I think Jim.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Is behind this.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Never ever you buy or use or ingest anything that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: has the word organic on the label.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Is that fair? No?
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think borgellia does. Sometimes organic has nothing to
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: do with it. Sometimes raw or past your eyes or
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: process doesn't have anything to do with it. It just happens.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: All right, Jim, we'll talk again next week. Have a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: good one. Take care.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: We're done, guys, And oh I'm sorry. There you have
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Shannon and Neil just have it a roaring conversation.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: That is, I just came in here to drop my
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: stuff off and feels like you should really get some spanks.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I did. I did not get out of my space.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: That is, you got you got very close. This is Shannon.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: This is why we love her. Oh my god, because
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: did you say I need spanks. Okay, we're done.
• 20:20
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• 20:25
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• 20:29
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