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Ep. 862: Moose Hunting in North Dakota, Catfish Regs, and A Bigfoot Family · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show. On today's show, we're covering
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: the ins and outs of buck Fest, which is the
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  Speaker 1: National Big Buck Hunter Championship. We're gonna talk about how
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: South Dakota is going all in on suppressors at sea,
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: like the place where you buy stuff is the devil Incarnate.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania tweaks their catfish regulations in an interesting way. Spencer
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Newhart reports on bigfoots as though there's anything to say
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: other than that's dumb. But first and more, But first,
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  Speaker 1: Randall on Buckfest.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, last fall, as radio Live listeners might know,
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  Speaker 2: Phil and I went to Nashville, Tennessee, to the National
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  Speaker 2: Championship of Big Buck Hunter, which is the arcade game
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  Speaker 2: that everyone knows and loves where you have a little
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  Speaker 2: pump action gun and shoot the bucks and bulls and
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  Speaker 2: rams as they run across the screen. And so Phil
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  Speaker 2: and I went down there, and Phil has produced I
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  Speaker 2: think an award winning or at least award worthy I
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  Speaker 2: should say award worthy.
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe get nominated. Yeah, yeah, a nomination worthy.
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  Speaker 2: Phil produced a film of our exploits down there, and
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty crazy event. They have over one hundred
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  Speaker 2: contestants around the World. There's one hundred and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars in prize money, and so you have to
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  Speaker 2: qualify for the main competition, but they also have an
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  Speaker 2: amateur Open, and the folks there were kind enough to
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  Speaker 2: slop me into the amateur Open. So I tried my
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  Speaker 2: hand at this and you'll be able to see how
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  Speaker 2: that goes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're ass kicked.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to video.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get a feel for the percentage of actual
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  Speaker 3: hunters in that competition pool?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also covered.
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  Speaker 1: That's covered.
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  Speaker 2: That's covered in the video. I mean it is. It
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  Speaker 2: is funny because there's like people wearing T shirt, like
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  Speaker 2: matching T shirts from their hometown bar in Saskatchewan, like
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  Speaker 2: Camo T shirts, and on the image of the back
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  Speaker 2: there's a deer with a crosshair on its head, and
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  Speaker 2: like these these people are hunting, you know. I mean
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  Speaker 2: there's people from all over There's people from like New
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  Speaker 2: York City that live in Brooklyn and play at their
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  Speaker 2: little bar. But there's a lot of people that you know,
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  Speaker 2: are like hardcore Wisconsin Minnesota types.
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  Speaker 1: But is it mostly like drinkers? Are they drinkers?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of drinking involved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's because there is a lot like bar people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bar people. It's bar people, and we get
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  Speaker 2: into that. We talked to the owner or sorry, we
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  Speaker 2: talked to the founder, the inventor of Big Buck Hunter.
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  Speaker 1: And he loaded so he'd make an off.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't pocket watching the whole time, but I think
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  Speaker 2: he's doing well. He also invented the original Terminator arcade game.
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  Speaker 2: M have you ever seen like the little Oozi's and
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  Speaker 2: the little pintle mounts and they shooting on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: So this guy's invented probably a lot of the arcade
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  Speaker 2: games that you've seen in your life.
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  Speaker 1: With you you were hanging out with him.
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  Speaker 2: Now we got we got a little time with him
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  Speaker 2: before I think before the final championship, which was tremendously exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Phil. I saw a lot of when I was watching
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  Speaker 1: the video you play in the video game, I saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that would be illegal. Yes, like
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  Speaker 1: you guys are shooting at salmon and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's not represented.
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  Speaker 3: I was to ask if you expressed Steve's grave ethical
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  Speaker 3: concerns of surrounding this game.
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  Speaker 5: That's the whole video Actually.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I wanted to be a talking head in
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  Speaker 1: that video talk about all the wildlife violations I saw, well.
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  Speaker 2: The one the one question I did ask him. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if this made it into the final cut,
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  Speaker 2: as I had wondered whether animal rights activists had protested that.
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  Speaker 1: Game, because do they protest it?
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  Speaker 2: He's he said they don't.
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  Speaker 1: I protested. Listen my body, Jimmy Darn when he used
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  Speaker 1: to have his piece joint. Yeah, I'd take my kids
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  Speaker 1: down and I would forbid my kids from playing Big
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  Speaker 1: Buck Hunter, and just to screw with me, he'd give
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  Speaker 1: them a roller coorders and then they'd play it, and
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  Speaker 1: he would do it just to make me mad. Well,
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  Speaker 1: check out the video.
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  Speaker 6: I like.
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  Speaker 1: I like Jimmy's style. No, I can't support it. Man,
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  Speaker 1: shooting fish and all that.
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  Speaker 4: You're you're also shooting zombies at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Shooting way too much at everything.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys will ever see.
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  Speaker 1: You're taking shots should be taken.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're someone out there that's like I really
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  Speaker 2: don't like meat eaters, uh, serious hunting and fishing videos,
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  Speaker 2: this might be the one for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is another thing, another problem I have with the video. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people look in that game, come on with that little
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  Speaker 1: toy gun in their lives. It's not like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of noises. It just doesn't look like it's just not
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  Speaker 1: a great look.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: In the second iteration of this video, you know, in
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  Speaker 6: a month or so we'll have Steve screen and screen commentary.
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  Speaker 3: They are like you, it is like a sod Off
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  Speaker 3: pump action never runs out. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think the most telling thing that it's not four
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  Speaker 5: Hunters is that they hold this one in like late October.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's that's the tough. That is tough thing.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't attract a lot of The next one is
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  Speaker 5: in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, you're gonna go are You're done?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's just that it lines up real unfortunately with
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  Speaker 2: the Montana general season.
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  Speaker 1: Got it, but you got your ass kicked or you
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  Speaker 1: can't say yet what happened. I think if you won
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  Speaker 1: all the prize money, I would have heard about it.
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  Speaker 2: If you want all the prize money, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: sitting in this chair.
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  Speaker 5: Here's why I think you should go watch it. I
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  Speaker 5: believe this is probably the first Phil Taylor joint. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Taylor shot it ed.
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  Speaker 1: I am just especially I'm an empty.
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  Speaker 2: Vessel, uh fulfill to pour his creative talents into it's
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  Speaker 2: not so good.
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  Speaker 8: The powers that be are kind enough to let Randall
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  Speaker 8: and I get on a plane and go to Nashville.
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  Speaker 8: And when we we had no plan, We're just like,
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  Speaker 8: let's just shoot stuff and we'll put it together later.
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  Speaker 8: And I think what we what we made is pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say that the Big Buck Hunter, we
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  Speaker 2: should point this out. The Big Buck Hunter people invited
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  Speaker 2: us out there, they put us up, they treated us
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  Speaker 2: like royalty, George Dave Snipes, they really took care of us,
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  Speaker 2: and we had a blast. So I mean, if you're
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  Speaker 2: in the Milwaukee area and you have the slightest interest
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  Speaker 2: in I don't know, drinking Big Buck Hunter, just like
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  Speaker 2: seeing people having a really good time, you should check
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  Speaker 2: this out. In October.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you said I thought you said Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 5: He said Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can go to the med Eater store
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  Speaker 2: and then go to Big Buck festal So, did.
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  Speaker 3: You find some camaraderie with like fellow gamers or are they
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  Speaker 3: not in your circle of.
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  Speaker 8: I mean there there, there is kind of there's a
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  Speaker 8: kind of there's kind of a wall that separates our
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  Speaker 8: arcade gamers with with Home with Home gamers. No, it's
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  Speaker 8: not really the same kind of like light gun stuff,
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  Speaker 8: joystick stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: But totally different kinds of dorks that that's right.
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  Speaker 4: It's like different breed.
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  Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure, like, not all dorks get long.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that Phil enjoyed his time
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  Speaker 2: in Nashville, So we did go to the same tiki
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  Speaker 2: bar two nights in a row.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. So yeah, I got that didn't make good.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't make an April I had. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to review these spent expensive It's like, yeah, why around
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  Speaker 1: midnight where it was just like a flurry of twenty
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  Speaker 1: one dollars purchases at tiki bar?
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  Speaker 4: And what the hell is a scorpion bowling? Why did
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  Speaker 4: you order eight of them?
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  Speaker 7: Scorpions?
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  Speaker 2: Wild Navy grogs?
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: All right, Block Trail season two is out.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, it's about to be out on Thursday, April sixteenth
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  Speaker 6: is when the first episode drops, hosted by our friend
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  Speaker 6: and colleague Jordan Sillers. It's uh, our Networks outdoor true
• 8:01
  Speaker 6: crime show. This first episode, without saying too much, is
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  Speaker 6: actually pretty gruesome and happen outside of Helena Montana, where
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  Speaker 6: a hunter disappeared back in twenty eleven and his remains
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  Speaker 6: were later found in.
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  Speaker 7: Two separate sites. So that's the first of.
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  Speaker 6: A number of episodes that'll be dropping, and please follow
• 8:27
  Speaker 6: Blood Trails wherever you listen to your podcast, and you
• 8:31
  Speaker 6: can watch the video episodes on the mediat podcast YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 6: so please subscribe to that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we got an update from Mark Kenyon on the
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  Speaker 1: launch of our brand new twenty twenty six land Access initiative.
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  Speaker 1: What you're going to hear about right now, this is
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  Speaker 1: a real good one. Take it away, Mark.
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  Speaker 9: All Right, Mark Kenyon here with an update on Meet
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  Speaker 9: Eator's twenty twenty six land Access initiative project. We're kicking
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  Speaker 9: this latest round off here on April fourteenth on a
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  Speaker 9: really cool deal that we're doing with ONEX. So here's
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  Speaker 9: what's gonna happen. There is a big chunk of land
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  Speaker 9: out in central North Carolina surrounding something called the Tuckertown Reservoir.
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  Speaker 9: This is about four thousand acres that have been privately
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  Speaker 9: owned but historically open to public access. This has been
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  Speaker 9: great deer hunting ground. People been waterfowl hunting, turkey hunting,
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  Speaker 9: you know, getting access to the reservoir and fishing. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 9: the land owner of this four thousand or so acres
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  Speaker 9: of land has put this ground up for sale to
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  Speaker 9: the highest bidder. Alcoa owns this they are now going
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  Speaker 9: to be taken bids taken offers on this land. That
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  Speaker 9: would mean four thousand ish acres of land no longer
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  Speaker 9: publicly accessible, no longer open to hunting or fishing. So
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  Speaker 9: there's this organization there in the state called the Three
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  Speaker 9: Rivers Land Trust that has now started a campaign to
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  Speaker 9: try to raise funds buy some of these lands and
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  Speaker 9: transfer that ownership to the state of North Carolina so
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  Speaker 9: that it can become officially public land and be accessible
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  Speaker 9: for public hunting and fishing forever. That is a pretty
• 10:13
  Speaker 9: awesome idea. That's something that I'm really excited about. That's
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  Speaker 9: something that Meetator is excited about, that on X is
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  Speaker 9: excited about, and so we've been brainstorming about, you know,
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  Speaker 9: how can we help, how can we make this possible?
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  Speaker 9: And here's what we've landed on. We have landed on
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  Speaker 9: helping out with a thirty day fundraising campaign for this project,
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  Speaker 9: in which we each meet Itor and Onyx are going
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  Speaker 9: to provide up to one hundred thousand dollars in matching funds.
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  Speaker 9: So what that means is that for every dollar that
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  Speaker 9: a participant donates, we will be able to donate a
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  Speaker 9: match dollar to that up to two hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 9: So we could think about this, If you donate a
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  Speaker 9: dollar Mediator donates a dollar, and Onyx donates a dollar,
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  Speaker 9: you're tripling your impact. If you want to participate and
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  Speaker 9: help keep the Tuckertown game lands public and accessible.
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  Speaker 1: It's super exciting.
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  Speaker 9: It's a great opportunity, I think, to make this idea
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  Speaker 9: of keeping public lands public tangible.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 9: So many of these public land issues seem like they're
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  Speaker 9: happening far away or outside of our control. Well, here
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  Speaker 9: is an opportunity to do something real that can make
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  Speaker 9: it real on the ground impact. And we don't need
• 11:26
  Speaker 9: to wait for the government. We don't need to wait
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  Speaker 9: for a law, we don't need to lobby against.
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  Speaker 1: A bad bill.
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  Speaker 9: We can just put our money where our mouth is
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  Speaker 9: and try to keep this land public. So that's what
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  Speaker 9: we're going to do at Mediator. That's what Onyx is
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  Speaker 9: going to do, and that's what we're hoping that everybody
• 11:42
  Speaker 9: listening can do as well. We're going to be running
• 11:44
  Speaker 9: this campaign from April fourteenth through May fourteenth, and you
• 11:48
  Speaker 9: can learn more about it or actually donate and be
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  Speaker 9: a part of this by going over to the Save
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  Speaker 9: Tuckertown campaign website. You can find that by going to
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  Speaker 9: tr lt dot org, slash say dash Tuckertown or just
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  Speaker 9: google it, or go to the Mediator website. You'll see
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  Speaker 9: all the details there. But we are thrilled about this.
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  Speaker 9: We're excited. It's thirty days. We're matching up to two
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  Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars. That's Mediator and Onyx plus all of
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  Speaker 9: you guys listening. We can do this together, and we
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  Speaker 9: can help get some of these parcels made public again,
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  Speaker 9: keep hunting angling out there on the landscape and keep
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  Speaker 9: it public.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, great news from Mark. We're excited about
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  Speaker 1: this one. It's a great fundraising campaign again, partnering with
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  Speaker 1: on X and Three Rivers Land Trust. Remember April fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: through May fourteenth, we're gonna match up to two hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand bucks. So let's make as much of an impact
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  Speaker 1: as you possibly can. And also I've been bugging Mark Kenyon,
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  Speaker 1: who's not like responding to my prods of getting the
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  Speaker 1: auction house of oddities fired back up, because we're like
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: way overloaded with auction house of oddities items like a
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  Speaker 1: brand spanking new Virtue, the brand spanking new Honda one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty horsepower outboard.
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  Speaker 3: I wish my boat hold that thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'd take a bunch of barn board outboards. Barnboards. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: we got all kinds of other jobs. I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at something in my garage here down and sell on
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  Speaker 1: the auction house.
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  Speaker 5: Guns Corey was talking about cleaning out the storage unit
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  Speaker 5: and he found a canoe or a kayak in there.
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  Speaker 1: Kayak's dude, all we're gonna we're gonna have so much
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  Speaker 1: stuff in that auction house. I just thought of something
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  Speaker 1: really good the other day. I put my own guns.
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  Speaker 3: I might retire from my ice fishing and do all
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  Speaker 3: my ice fishing stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Someone more north, Yes, yeah, we're not. Who'd have thought
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna this close to the Canadian border and not
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  Speaker 1: be north enough for ice fishing anymore? Uh Oh, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of ice fishing, I got a favor to ask because
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: of a writing project I'm working on. I need to
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  Speaker 1: know from people out there who fish Lake Champlain like,
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  Speaker 1: is the bite hot? I'm talking hard water preferably, is
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  Speaker 1: the bite hot. I need to go out there and
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  Speaker 1: look around at some things. And when I'm out there,
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  Speaker 1: I want to hit hit the hard water bite.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think you're gonna catch perch?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You mean now we're in the future,
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  Speaker 1: in the future now it's melted off next winter. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking for a guy who I'm looking for a guy
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  Speaker 1: gal whoever, who likes to hit the hard water, who
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  Speaker 1: wants to tape me out and show me the best
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  Speaker 1: of Champlain. And while we're there, I'm gonna tell them
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  Speaker 1: a story that'll curl their hair about why I'm there
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: so right in looking for CHAMPI right, what's that means?
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  Speaker 2: Encrypted nothing?
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  Speaker 5: That's that's there.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's not what I'm doing. No, it's way better
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  Speaker 1: than that. Even if that was real, it would sell
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  Speaker 1: trump that if I could go there and tell them
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: two things. I could say, here's thing one I found.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: That thing is dead on the beach. It's dead on
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  Speaker 1: the beach. I can show you right now, or I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you the story that I'm going to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: They would be better off taking.
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  Speaker 5: My story that's good.
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  Speaker 1: Not my story, but old.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to alienate these folks. Maybe they're invested
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  Speaker 2: in regional lore.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I'll feel them out. Corrections, Corrections, corrections. Okay, the winner
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  Speaker 1: of this week's correction of the week, we'll get a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Moultrie Edge three pro trail camera plus one year subscription.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, you know, I was just talking
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: about auctioning guns off. I'm thinking about giving a gun.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I might give a gun out of my personal stash
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  Speaker 1: one of these weeks, just out of the out of
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  Speaker 1: the blue. Damn, I'm going to give a gun for
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  Speaker 1: my personal stash to the to the corrections winner.
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  Speaker 6: Million.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: They got to make sure they don't have a restraining order,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna send it to an f FL. I'm
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: not mailing it to them.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe there's a correction of the year.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: That's no, it's just gonna be a random.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Left handed correction week.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Man, a lot of corrections about our recent hot dog.
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  Speaker 1: Our hot dog I wasn't called the expose. It wasn't
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: an expose episode.
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  Speaker 5: Better than if you marketed it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't want to expose a Yeah. I kept
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: being like, what's the nastiest thing you've ever seen him
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  Speaker 1: throw into a hot dog at a hot dog factory.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, it's all lies. Wow, and I prod it.
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  Speaker 1: I said, if it wasn't lies, you tell me you
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  Speaker 1: worked that angle pretty says, I would tell you if
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: it was a lie. Uh.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: So we had we had one craction from Cody Sanders
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  Speaker 2: in Alabama and he's stands.
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  Speaker 1: Cody, Oh sorry, he says. Uh.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: John mentioned the white gooey stuff that comes out of
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: fish when you cook or smoke. It is fat, but
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  Speaker 2: it is actually not. It is called albumin, which is
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a protein found in fish. Albumin is a water soluble
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: protein naturally found in fish muscle. You'll usually see more
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  Speaker 2: of it when the fish is cooked too hot or
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: too fast, or with lean fish like salmon or cod.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: It can also happen if the fish wasn't briand or
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: rested beforehand.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Did he just say, that's what I've got?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I want to get to this after this guy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He's a crrection of white face. Yep.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: The best way I found it deal with face is.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Like he's like, oh, he's like, oh, spiking a volleyball,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: but doesn't realize I'm spiking it back.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's messed up bad already.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a volleyball.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: Turn, right about that.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: That?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right about that. But lean fish like salmon
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: or cod would be like me saying, trying to think,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: try to give him, give him time here. Black things
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like the two colors on a panda.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Black things like that mountain going in that black bear snow.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Or what about like lean meat like fat, or venic
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: like pig or venice, white things.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Like mountain goats and black bears. That's the quivalent of
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: what he's saying.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Go on, Randall, The best way I've found to deal
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: with it is just smoking it low and slow. A
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: saltwater Brian for ten to fifteen minutes helps, and keeping
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: tempts around one sixty to one eighty does too. Even
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: then you might still see albumin. You can control it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Not completely eliminated, but it's safe to eat. Appreciate everything,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: y'all do.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Love the show, Colonel Sanders, Thanks buddy, that's a good one.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I like he screwed up a little bit. That's cool.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: How are we gonna address his screw up?
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: We just did?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: We just did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like we explained it well.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It's a good one though.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Cod's lean, Sam's fatty, So him saying lean fish like
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: salmon or cod. It's like the fatties, damn fish.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: And I don't think you're gonna see a lot of album.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And you know, it could be he could be fishing
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: spawned out chumps. He's fishing spawned out chumps, the kind
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: that are going the wrong way down the river. On
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the zombies.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: They wrap around your legs when you're waiting in Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It's kind of you're going the wrong way. Actually, he's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all like half dead. Okay, okay, another one.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: This.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: We gotta put t s s to to the yess
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to rest.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: It'll be the last time I am an attorney. This
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: is a gentleman, Mike. I'm an attorney and not a
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: particularly elite attorney. And failing to disclose a material fact
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: to a tribunal a mission constitutes an act of dishonesty
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: and could subject an attorney to discipline by the state
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: bar in the jurisdiction where the attorney practices, and or
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: subject than malfeasant to sanctions. Now, this is not Steve's
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: fault because Korean is responsible for production content.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: Oh, smack in the face.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: After listening to the various podcasts recently about TSS, I
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: did my duty and ran to my local sports store
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: to see what was in stock for TSS so I
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: could buy up everything they had and hoard it as instructed.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Knowing I live in a state where I'm more likely
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: to draw an elk tag than a turkey tag, it
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: seems there might be some TSS on the shelf, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: maybe at a decent price. Imagine my surprise when not
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: only did I find a bunch of shotgun shells labeled TSS,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: but the mug of this familiar fellow smiling at me
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: see the picture.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Below a third degree.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: This guy doesn't understand that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: No, so so to the audience. What this gentleman has
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: in hand are two boxes of Federal third degree meat
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: eater ammo with Steve's face.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: He's got some three and a half inches and some
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: three inches in twelve gage.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Okay, he says, I don't recall any discussion on the
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: podcast about US mentioning TSS or that we sponsor TSS
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: or federal It seems like a material mission.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, that's a good point, but this isn't made anymore.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: This is a long time ago.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: And it's only got like a small dose a TS.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Got a small dose TSS. I'm surprised you found some
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: because that was from a long time ago. I was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: fired from the cover.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: It's got a logo. We retired that logo probably four
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: years ago.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: It's good though, probably put it on debay and get
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: much more than that it's being sold for, which is
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: like twenty seven ninety nine.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, write federal letters, say I want Steve back on
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that animal.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: This guy offers, bring me something like I'll meet him
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: at the exit on I ninety he can give me
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: some of this stuff.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So, yes, we did not mention I and talking about TSS,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like picture that I was trying to play a shrewd.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: That would have been shrewd. Like let's say I had
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: some kind of financial interest in selling TSS, and I'm like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: TSS alert hoard it now, right, and then he and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: then I'm like selling all this TSS, but I have
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: nothing to gain from that TSS. I have nothing to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: gain from that TSS. But still great correction. Another correction
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: number three. So this guy says, while listening to episode
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: eight fifty seven, I was especially intrigued when Steve discussed
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the map showing the locations of the oldest known servit fossils.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: He mentioned that no moose fossils older than fifteen thousand
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: years have been found south of the ask A Yukon line,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: which immediately caught my attention. He thought, he thought it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: sounded surprising. He did a little digging pun intended. He says,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in the course of my search, I came across a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: fascinating fine from the nineteen seventies, a stag moose specimen.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Stag moose specimen discovered in a gravel pit near Jasper
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Park in Polk County, Iowa, approximately thirty thousand years old.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, what do you make of that? Well, it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not a moose, different critter, different critter, So I don't
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: know what to make of that. Different critter. But still
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: good point out. I don't think it's gonna win. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: think the winner is here.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Hmmm.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: A lot of guys, right, we picked, We just picked.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: We randomly picked one. We're talking about smoke phase wild turkey.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So when you see a light colored wild turkey, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: was saying on the show, someone was showing some picture.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're talking about. And two of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: my friends unrelated have recently sent me pictures of smoke
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: phased turkeys. I said, when I see a smoke phase turkey,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I see domestic turkey genetic introgression. Meaning when someone sends
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: me that picture, the first thing in my mind is
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: there's some domestic turkeys around there and they've been getting
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it on, mixing it up, making love with wild turkeys,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: throwing these light colored offspring. Okay, guy writes in and says,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I recently heard on Lake Pickles podcast an interview with
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: doctor Mike Chamberlain. Okay, And he says Doctor Chamberlain points
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: out on the Backwoods University podcast that's what Lake Pickles
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: show is called on our network, that he himself used
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to have similar thoughts, the important word there being that
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the wild turkey doc. Doctor Chamberlain says he used to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: have similar thoughts, but has been shocked that turkeys can
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: be one hundred percent wild and have these odd color phases.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: He states that DNA testing confirms there are multiple paths
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to which a turkey can display the smoke phase in
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: other unique color phases, including one that does not involve
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a domestic or heritage cross. Furthermore, Tom Glinds, a former
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: NWTF regional director, set in twenty eleven that the partially
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: white or smoke phase turkeys occur naturally. Other sources estimate
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that one percent of turkeys display or carry the recessive
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: smoke phase gene. They're coming from a feller named Joey.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Final correction, This kind of blows my mind. This might win,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but I think not.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Up up to me now.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Basically is this, Oh yeah, go ahead?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Who wrote the title for this one?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Good mood?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: This should be good moose hunting?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, metags, good stag moose hunting.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I like this way.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: This guy starts out no bona fides to start with.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Not long ago, I would have been in the same
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: boat as the news crew thinking there are very few
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: moose in North Cota. I'm not sure exactly what we
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: said last episode, but I was.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I expressed surprise about there being moose, all right, I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: screwed up and said, oh on, you know what I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: said around that poacher had a dead moose. Oh, and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I said he must have got that from somewhere else.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I got you hardly enough to hold the season for
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: three weeks ago. I was shocking. Are surprisingly shocked to
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: read that North Dakota has a very generous moose season
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and issues more tags than I expected, especially compared to
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Texas where I live. While in Kingsville, Texas to watch
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: our collegiate sun pitch for the Kingsville Texas Kingsville, Texas
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: A and M have Lina's.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: What a flex that is? Yeah, it's like what a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like out of nowhere?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe did, but they do have a good mascot.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: They have a Lina's.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: That's pretty sweet.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I like this guy.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: To my pleasant surprise of red a small article about
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: North Dakota and their big game harvesting reports. The details
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: were unbelievable enough that I took a picture. YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Here are the twenty twenty five moose harvest numbers according
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to the North Dkota Fishing Game, two hundred and ninety
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: two moose tags issues two hundred and eighty one hunters.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get this.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Two hundred and forty five animals harvested one hundred and
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: forty seven bulls and ninety eight cows.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: They got so many moose to killing the hunter cows? Yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: what's up with the two hundred and ninety two tags
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and two eighty one hunters. Like some dudes must have dropped.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Some dudes drew and didn't hunt, didn't It's not like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: they're not finding people who weren't those tags. Exact dudes
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: drew and didn't hunt. So yeah, so they got moose
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: coming out of their ears.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah. We validated this with his brother who lives in
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: North Dakota.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And those are not shyris moose, like we were talking
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: about a couple of weeks ago. I think they're Canadians,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: I think so?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: And there those things are coming into Montana now. Oh so,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: like northeastern Montana has a growing population of these.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: There's a line that you can draw coming down from
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the Canadian border in central Montana and it kind of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: cuts along the Missouri River country and then down southeast
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and that's the dividing line for Canadian shiris.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: And you'll see the standing in al falcon fields out there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'm learning all kinds of stuff, all right, to recap,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: let's go right into voting. No need to recap. We
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: got TSS that put the TSS to rest. No, no
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: albumen no, how do you say it? El albumen? Albumin
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Are you sure you put the emphasis on that salable.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hear if I don't.
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: Okay, album cam on the line, TSS, Moose Fossils, smoke
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: Phase turks, moose in North Dakota.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Oh well, we weren't voting yet. This is doing a.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Review, he said, No, need to reave you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know that changed my mind. Oh okay, thanks
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: for passing that albumen. Oh sorry, no votes, TSS, no votes,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Moose fossils, no votes. Oh, smoke Fase turks right here?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: One vote on smoke face Turks.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: He pays a text clarifying.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: That North Dakota's are a washing moose, big time winner.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Just got himself a military trail camera, got himself a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: one year subscription so he can put it up and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: catch some of them moose. He sent it to his brother,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Legendary Texas. No, he can put it up and get
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: pictures of his kid playing baseball.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: As he can.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Just put it on the post on the edge of
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the baseball court.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: All right, you get three hundred thousand corrections about baseball.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Eticquete question.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll do this one etiquette etiquette question about turkey hunting.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I have a family debate. Do we got a picture?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I think? I think. Let's never mind
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that it's pure white. OK, let's never mind.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Matter anyway, I have a family debate. I would like
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: some outside input on. I'm an avid turkey hunter and
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: have gotten my calling down to the point where I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: can reliably harvest a bird every year.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I recently started dating someone and she's a very
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: avid hunter, but had never gone after turkeys. We decided
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: to give it a shot last Saturday, and she harvested
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: her first bird, got that picture, got it, and I had.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Nice work, Central Texas.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: That's girl, Rune.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: The only thing is this is no normal jake as pictured.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: You can see that suckers pretty white. My figuring was
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: this was an opportunity of a lifetime. Therefore I told
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: my girlfriend to take the shot. Our issue is is
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that we have an Spencer movie, your cursor, I can't read.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Our issue is that we have an unspoken no jake
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: policy on my family's property between myself, father and brother.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: This is in Central Texas.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It's unspoken.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Well, it must have been spoken at some point.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That's gonna say. It seems like they're speaking about policy.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it officially just became a spoken policy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I've been ridden very aggressively over the past two days
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: for harvesting that bird. However, is my understanding that the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: odds of a jake making it to the next year
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: are low to begin with, even lower when they stick
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: out like that. I'm standing by my decision and of
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: looking for vindication since we likely would have never seen
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: that bird again, also looking to brag that her first
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: bird was that unique. Anyway, input is appreciated. My input
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: is I don't like. The only time I got anything
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: against shooting jake's is when it's illegal to shoot them.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yep. That's a good damn girlfriend he's got. It's a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: great turkey. I don't care. Like, especially with first time
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: hunters in this walk.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I would think this is a swan.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a shot that turkey. I'm all four
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: ie hundred percent like any unless they make it illegal
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to curb harvest. If it's legal, if
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: your state fishing Game agency says you're allowed to shoot
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a jake, shoot a.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Jake, yep, if it makes you happy, go for it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You know it's not it's not this. You can't like
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: bring morality or something or ethics into the idea of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: shooting a good to eat turkey.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: And I don't even think you need to worry about
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like Alwa's probably not going to be around next year.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: It's just like it's a good to eat turkey. Yep,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the Fishing Game Agency has established it. They got the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: numbers to to shoot Jake. Shoot Jake, especially since your
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: brand new damn girlfriend and a white one walks by.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Yep, dead brother jealous.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably don't. They probably don't have a new girlfriend.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: If you guys are listening, you should uh send a
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: DNA sample that sucker to the people we were talking
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: about earlier at the Turkey DNA project. You'll find out
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: if it's wild albino, if it's got some what'd you say,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: domestic introgression email?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: We go introgression?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Random tax dollars for conservation?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: All right, this email comes to us, Well, I'll get
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to that. In a recent episode, Steve briefly said, I'm
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: paraphrasing here. Didn't some state increase their taxes by some
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: tiny amount and it's making shitloads of money for conservation?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I sound like an idiot when you read it like that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Doesn't really sound like.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, you say it, it rolls off the top.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Didn't some state increase you got some tiny amount? Its
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: making shitloads of money for conservation. I think he's referring
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to Minnesota's Clean Water, Land and Legacy Constitutional Amendment of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, which sales text by that money
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: over two billion dollars since two thousand and eight. All
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: goes back to various conservation measures, but of particular interest
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to the mediator crowd, this funding has helped purchase over
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: three hundred thousand acres of public land, as well as
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: habitat work one hundreds of thousands more. If I was
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: giving one piece of advice to sportsman, conservationists and public
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: land lovers, mimic what is happening in Minnesota? Because going
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: because going in on X every other week, going on
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: on X.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Let me ye please, because going on on X every
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: other week and seeing a new place to hunt, fish
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and recreate in your home state is amazing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it. Longtime listeners, love the show, loved
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the news split Thanks Sabine, and Sabine is the Minnesota
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: state coordinator for pheasants forever.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That's great, So Carl Malcolm has been talking about because
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he Carl Malcolm was telling me over dinner recently, like
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: about a tale of two dates, the funding mechanism in
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin being so stressed and the funding mechanism in Minnesota
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: being so effective that Minnesota is going around buying new
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: public land for its residents. Meanwhile Wisconsin's suffering on funding.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And so Carl talking about the need to get creative
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: around funding wildlife agencies. And they've done a good job.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Missouri's done a good job.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can go to I looked this up
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: after I read this email. You can go to the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Congressional Sportsman's Foundation website and they have a whole page
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: explaining conservation sales tax in different states and how different
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: states have done it and how well it's working and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: all that stuff.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They have a whole overview of the subject. So it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting to see the different models out there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see a five cents on the dollar
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: sales tax all goes toward all ghost five cents on
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a dollar, woul people vote for that five cents on
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a dollar sales tax and it all goes to conservation.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: W A narrow that wouldn't win.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: No, but no one would be mad at you.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't have to do it for very long. They
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: did two billion dollars since two thousand and eight. If
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: you did five cents out of a dollar, you just
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: got to put up five years.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five years. I'll go back to normal no taxes,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: because then you'd have a what do you call it?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: When you have a big pot of money like universities
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and stuff and endowment, you build an endowment. Uh, if
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you buy stuff from Etsy, quit that runs of bitches.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: That's right now, this is from the past week. Uh.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Etsy as of August eleventh. Uh so a couple of
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: months out from now, what is it? Four months out?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: They will ban the sale of all animal fur, regardless
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: of age or origin, as part of its quote unquote
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: ongoing biodiversity efforts.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: My god.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And so they've clarified that biod they're talking about the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: fur of animals killed primarily for their pelts. It does
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not include taxidermy or byproduct materials such as leather, sheepskin, wool,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: or mohair. And it includes stuff like the age and
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: origin context is I mean like basically means if you
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: have a fur coat from the nineteen twenties. You can't
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: sell it on Etsy. But you can't even though that
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: animal's been dead for one hundred years. I guess there's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: there's an organization called Colish to Abolish the Fur Trade,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and it's a campaign, the Colish to Abolish the Fur
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Trade that's made up of a bunch of grassroots groups
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and they've been protesting against at SEA, including a quote
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: high profile disruption of a live presentation by the CEO
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of ATS a Morgan Stanley event in San Francisco. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: this is a win for the Coalition to Abolish the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Fur Trade. And they've been working on a bunch of
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: different companies lately, including UH, Conde Nasty. I don't know
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: how they were how well they were involved in these,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: but there's a bunch of companies like Conde Nast, Mark Jacobs,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: things like New York Fashion Week that are getting rid
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: of fur man.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: This has got me excited about starting a UH at.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: The esque for I don't think you should have I
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: think you should have kept out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: That out film.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Whatever man.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Whatever, Pennsylvania catfish rags, they're proposing to change them. This
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: This was interesting to me because of of how it's
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: how it's going to be playing out like on one
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: side of Pennsylvania versus the other. Presently, in the state
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania, catt catfish are listed similarly to panfish in
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: the rags. You can have a you can catch and
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: keep fifty a day with no size limit. And it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: not like can.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: You imagine fifty big catfish piled.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Up r And I don't think they're delineating between channel catfish, flatheads, blues.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: It's just catfish, right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Like in their mind, catfish, caffish. Yep.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: So a new proposed regulation that would that would go
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: into place next year for the Ohio River basin in Pennsylvania,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: which is almost the entire western half of Pennsylvania. It's
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: aiming to protect native blue and flathead cat catfish populations
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: in the Ohio River drainage in Pennsylvania. And they're pretty
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: it's a pretty huge change. For blue catfish, they would
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: go catch and release only, and for flatheads it would
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: go to four fish daily with only one over thirty
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: five inches. So it's a big, big change, And I.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Need to I want to pause in that for you. Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that's why to reiterate what you just said, that's a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: big change. Yeah, to go from we don't distinguish species yep,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and you're allowed fifty a day yep, to no retention
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: on blues on blue, so like one day you can
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: catch fifty blues, the next day zero.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they kind of they describe these these fisheries
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: in western Pennsylvania's like merging fisheries, which is not really,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think an accurate way to describe it. It's
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: more like recovering fisheries because they're native to that drainage
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: and they're starting to come back. Pennsylvania has a stocking
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: program now to create a self sustaining blue cat population
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: in the Ohio River drainage. So big changes and a
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: couple of quotes is both the blues and flatheads are
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: only native to the Ohio River basin in Pennsylvania. They're
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: not native to Lake Erie drainage, the Delaware or the Potomac,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and the goal of the blue catfish restoration programs again
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: to establish and naturally reproducing population. The species was extirpated
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: from the area in the early nineteen hundreds because of pollution,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: and as water quality has been restored, they've kind of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: both flatheads and blues have kind of started coming back
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: on their own. I mean you can catch these things
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: like in downtown Pittsburgh right next to Three River Stadium.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Well home, I got a question here, yep. Why oh
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: flatheads are saying not native to because because flats are
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: there's flats in the Great Lakes. They're saying they're not
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: native to them.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: They're not native to the They're native to the Ohio
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: River drainage, but not those drainage other drainages. Because yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: but this is very interesting in the case of Pennsylvania
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and other places like Virginia, West Virginia and in that
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Maryland Chesapeake Bay, because you drive a couple hundred miles
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: not even that far one side, basically like the eastern
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Continental Divide in the Appalachian Mountain. It's like you go
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: over that from west to east and you're now in
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: a part of Pennsylvania where blues and flatheads are considered
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: invasives and they're doing a lot of damage to native
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: fisheries in like the Susquehanna River drainage. They're a big
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: problem in Chesapeake Bay now for native fish. So it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: like one side of the state they're trying to bring
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: them back, and you can't keep them the other side
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: of the state. They're invasive and they want them gone.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it on one condition. I'm all for
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: it on if they feel that if they see good recovery, yeah,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and they see numbers come just that they'll adjust to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, you can keep it blue a day whatever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: But I agree, I agree that like that kind of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like loosey goosey management of lumping three very different fish
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: together under one umbrella and then making a fifty fish thing.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Because if some guy gets on kind of like a
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: weird bite during the spawn, yeah, and pulls off twenty
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: thirty blues, Yeah, I mean, holy cow.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Man, especially like big spawning spinish.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Not that I wouldn't want to be there for that bite,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: You thank my dad for that story. He sent it
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Brodie's dad.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You Brodi's dad. Yeah, he fought. He's not that old,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: but some of Brodie's relatives fought a little big horn.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: They're not talking, they're buried deep.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Okay, for all those birders out there, you guys are ahead,
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: potentially ahead of this anti aging game that everyone seems
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: to care about so much. A new study that was
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: published in the Journal of Neuroscience suggests that birding can
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: actually help brain health over time, and one of the
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: leading scientists said mitigate age related decline. More research is needed,
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: but here we go. So the neuroscien scientist Eric Wing
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: and his co.
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: Authors with their study.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: They reveal that parts of the brains of expert birders
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: are denser than those of novice birders when matched in age, gender,
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: and education level. They use the neuroscientists use MRI measures
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: to study brain function and the density of brain structures
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: in real time. They found that changes to structural brain
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: organization in several regions. Sorry They found changes too structural
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: brain organization in several regions that are involved in attention
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: and perception. They looked at how the brain regions responded
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: when people memorize and identified birds, and some regions with
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: structural differences also showed higher brain activities when these expert
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: birders were looking at unfamiliar birds and that required more
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: attention to subtle patterns of the birds, and in novices
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: they didn't see this increase. So they know that larger
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: numbers of people need to be studied over a period
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: of time, so that'd be a longitudinal study. But so far,
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: what they've found, uh, that's that leads them to believe
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: that there is a benefit to being an expert burder.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: There you have it so here to hear this. If
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you're dumb, try burden.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I want to be part of the study because I
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: told Karin earlier that when I'm observing birds, it's generally
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: like a very high stress not a relaxing like when
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at a turkey. I'm not like, my brain's
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: not growing, it's shrinking because of your high stress cortisol levels.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand, Yeah, but you know what I
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: do this. I do like when I'm trying to tell
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I just heard a gobble, Yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that's interesting to me. But then I feel like I'm slipping,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: like I'm losing my hearing. I'm getting old. But it
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: could be that me trying to like do that little
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: math in my head.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Was that a gobble? How far away was he?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I could be getting smarter. Yeah, but I'll buy that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'll buy that because you know what, it also like
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: ties into like this very ancient I'll get to get
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a little fuzzy here. But I mean, you know, we're
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like constructed to interact like our bodies, our physical our
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: physical selves are constructed to like interact with a wild
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: landscape and identify and yeah, to pay it, like to
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: be at a state of like heightened attention, paying to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on around you, because that's how you survive
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: or don't survive, you know, like listening, looking. So the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: fact that there's some partier brain or anatomy that flourishes
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in wildlife viewing and wondering about wildlife, that's not surprising
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to me. That was a little fuzzy.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: No, I think that. I think that was crystal clear.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Someone's gonna put that in quotes and send it back
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I'd crocheted into a little pillow and put it on
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: my couch.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That's good. Here, who's handling this?
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: I can do this quickly? This is this is a
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: fast one.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: But can you within this explain to me how this
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: isn't federal? Like, why isn't this a federal thing? Go on?
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: What what I understood?
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: It was just a quick news blurb about South Dakota
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: being the very first state to remove suppressors from the
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: list of controlled weapons.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: So this was right. Now, it's April.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: So, just at the end of last month, the governor
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: of South Dakota, Larry Rowdin, signed SB two so that
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: deregulates suppressors at the state level because it removes suppressors
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: from the definition of a quote controlled weapon.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I see. I understand now they're getting
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: out ahead of it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: Yes they are, Yes, because.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: The FEDS really need to The Feds really need to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: do this.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder if controlled weapons means that at some point,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: like no background check, you're just gonna be able.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: To well, I don't know, Oh, if it's not controlled
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: at all, because right now it's more and you walk
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: away with it. Yeah, like it's more controlled than the gun.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's like you can buy a gun anywhere, but you
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: just can't make it quiet. Yeah. Like it's like, no,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: it's okay to have a gun. We just don't want
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the gun to be quiet. We want to make sure
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it hurts your ears.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Hearing safe. Let's not say quiet, let's say hearing safe.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Hearing safe.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: We don't want to give the impression that these are silencers.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: It is to me, I think that someday there will
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: be a class action lawsuit and I'm going to be
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: in it a class action lawsuit where deaf dudes, dudes
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: going deaf like me sue not not guns, we sue
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the government. Can you take the government, could do a
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against the government, a class action lawsuit
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: where people with hearing damage come to other to sue
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the government for having made it so hard to make
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: your gun safe level safe audible levels. This would be
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a great way to spend the summer.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you do think about like I always
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: think it makes the most sense when you put it
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: in the context of public health. It's like when you
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: think of all of us that are going to be
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: old people someday.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, you know, like I lay down at night
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: that tonight is like.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like the it's just it's such like a
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: cost sink in healthcare for that hearing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And this is part of that. You can you want
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to run the class action suit?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Sure, I'll line it up. We got that attorney's email, GUYOT.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe when he's here giving Brody as TSS, we can.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Here's here's the main way I look at the suppress
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: or question. Let's just say guns were naturally the noise
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: they are when you put a suppressor on them. Like
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the physics that governed the world were different, right, or
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: we had a different I don't know what it whatever. Hell,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: for some weird reason, inexplicable reason, guns were the loudness
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they are unsuppressed that they are as a suppressed around
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a thought experiment. Would the government says you have to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: put a thing on there to make it louder because
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: we wanted to be loud, break them all? Or would
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: they just be cool with that level of loudness.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting thought experiment.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's just how loud they are. It
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't really hurt your ears, and we're okay with that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Some chemists out there might be working on low, low
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: volume powder.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, Spencer.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: I think it's also worth pointing out in the last story,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: South Dakota, who Falls, is home to Silence or Central,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: so we kind of a nod to, you know, one
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: of the more prominent businesses. All Right, this week, I'm
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: going to talk about Bigfoot. Last month, there was a
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: string of encounters that got the Bigfoot community out very excited.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: Oh and happened in a place that you might not expect,
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Northeast Ohio. In a five day span around Portage County.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: There were seven Bigfoot sightings, with four of those happening
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: on the same damn day. That was March ninth. Portage County.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: It's located on the eastern edge of Cleveland, and Akron
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: has one hundred and sixty thousand people. About sixty percent
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: of them live in urban areas, forty percent in rural areas.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Randall is our token Ohioan. He's familiar with the area.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: He'll he'll tell you more about it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, he's taking the story over.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I want to set the stage for you. At first,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I was very excited when I sort of began to
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: orient myself to Portage County because I thought I can
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: mention Maurice Claret or Jim Tressel. I thought I could mention.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: The dudes from high school uh.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Youngstown, the boys of Youngstown. That's a Youngstown, Ohio. If
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you just dig into the soul there, you find pure
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: football excellence in Akron, the home of Lebron James Uh.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Then I realized the very important details.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: They fall outside of Portage County.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. He's doing that thing. There's
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a word for it. It's a rhetorical device. It's a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: rhetorical device where you say something by saying how you're
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: not going to say it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did find out that Portage.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: County not to mention, and then you mentioned it, all right.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Clark Cable went to high school in Portage County briefly.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And then also Marvin chester Stone, as we all know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the inventor of the modern drinking straw.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: This is a good background.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Now the turtle, the sea turtle blood on that man's.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Hands, if you'll indulge me just for one moment.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: You guys.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Scrolled down in the Wikipedia pages got opened.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: As I was digging into this to this place, I
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: thought to myself, what other notable people are from Youngstown, Ohio?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Who could be?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Because because the list of football excellence just goes on forever,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: so I would. I ended up on a page called
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: dog Sports, which is the University of Georgia football. So
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I found this. Thomas Bop, an amateur astronomer, noteworthy for
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: discovering the hail Bop comet. Did you know what that?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And they.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Were wearing what purple nikes?
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And at the time, good bunch Bop was employed as
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: a construction's material He was employed at a construction materials
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: company and actually made the discovery using a telescope he
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: borrowed from someone else.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Wow, fast, that guy's gotta be pissed. Fascinating stuff, But
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the guy that owns it, Yeah, think how bummed he is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: If you'd just been looking through his own telescope, he'd
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: have named.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: It that like me borrowing a rifle from Steve and
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: shooting the world record mule rifle.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: So so with that, I feel like I've pretty well
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: grounded our audience.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Because at first I was like, Yeah, who cares, I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about that area, but really invested.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: But again, Youngstown is outside of Portage County.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: It's just to the east.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Good good table setting for the rest of this story.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: So talk about like I get where we're at.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Man, I won't even get into Mount Union football.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: Now. These sightings are gathered by the Bigfoot Society, who
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: interviews every single witness, uh and then I read their
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: accounts and I'm going to tell you about some of
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: my favorite ones from this string of seven sightings. March ninth,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: eight PM, Route three oh three west of Streetsboro near
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: Tinkers Creek. This is you know what these people were
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: seeing country. A mother and daughter driving westbound when they
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: spot a six and a half foot figure walking in
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: the roadway. They cautiously drive around it, getting as close
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: as three feet away from the bigfoot. The squatch then
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: yucks into the woods, and the motorists decide not to
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: turn around to investigate out of fear of what they
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: just saw.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Ball so hard, dude, Still, is there any visual evidence
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: from the after went away?
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: I've got a Google street view of this, just like
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: Randall Spence is trying to put us in a time
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: and place, and three.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Ft would have been photo opportunity.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that thing would be like standing on the white
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: line and you know you're where that X is in
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: your plane, that he's real close. Uh.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: So that they drive around chem trails that day, I
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: bet at first there's six m trails. H.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Now that they describe it as being lean, weed smoke, yeah, yeah,
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: they should drug test these people. That should be part
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: of the interview witness statement.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: They described it as being lean with tightly grouped facial features.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: It was all brown, with facial hair that was lighter
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: color than the body hair. It had long legs and
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: long arms, and they described it having a stilt like gait.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: So there you go. Now, here's some commentary from the
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: Bigfoot Society regarding their interview with the witnesses. Here's the quote.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: The proximity of this sighting three feet and the corroboration
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: between a mother and her eighteen year old daughter make
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: this an elite level report. The description of a six
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: and a half foot lean brown subject matches another siding
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: from the same evening, suggesting this may be a juvenile
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: or sub adult traveling the same corridor.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Here's what they always go. They always go where they like.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Try to legitimize it with.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Like U tex, Yeah, how many miles does that the
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: path cover?
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: Did you? Like?
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Like from each siding because you said it was on
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: the same day, right, Yeah, there were a number of
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: them in the same day. This next one I'm going
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: to talk about this happened twenty miles east of that
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: sighting the same day, March ninth, noon o'clock.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Car Right, he's rotten.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: At the head Waters Trail near Garrettsville.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Oh is that him up on the right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think that is a trash.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: That's him.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Jacob Taylor and an anonymous secondary witness. So Jacob Taylor.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: He was willing to put his first and last name
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: out there. Other witness, No, he says, I'm going to
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: be anonymous.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: They see an eight to ten foot tall figure on
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: a trail. Yeah. They said it had extremely broad shoulders
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: with arms extending well below human proportions. It also had
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: a stilt light gate, which is language we heard from
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: the last sighting as well. It had a strong musky
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: odor and made a deep l smelling.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Still like, don't they think that it's a person with stilts?
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: That's what is this stilt like gate?
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Me, that's just that's just how you like.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: They don't bend their knees.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: So this one was eight to ten feet, This one
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: must be an adult.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is a full blow big old sasquatch.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Now the encounter lasted about fifteen seconds before the bigfoot
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: retreated into the brush. Here's my favorite detail of all
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: these Ohio sightings. They said the ground literally shook when
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: sasquatch ran away, So that s footsteps that damn thing
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: like a t rex all right. The next day, March tenth,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: four am at the at a home on the edge
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: of Newton Falls, Ohio.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: This is about getting the amazing photo. It's like, what
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: are you typing illegal street view? You're using it? Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: but what do you you're using? Are you using l
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: lawn or just pulling up addresses?
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Well, so the Bigfoot Society they drop a pin for
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: where these sightings happened. And then I go to Google
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: street View and I found the closest street I could.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: But you're pulling addresses up, yes, okay, this is.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: You know, within like a few hundred yeards.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I thought it got more sophisticated, were able to pull
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: up lat lawns and not addresses.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Now looks like turkey hunt spot.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: There also also he just.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Sat there this spring with a shotgun.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: Now a homeowner lets out there German shepherd to go
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: to the bathroom. The K nine gets to the edge
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: of the property and turns extremely aggressive and starts lunging
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: and barking. That's when our witness spots it an eight
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: to ten foot tall figure that has significant masks. That
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: was their quote. The dog then runs back into the
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: house and begins uncontrollably shaking. The bigfoot runs away and
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: it's heard crashing through the brush. Our anonymous witness says
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: the sasquatch was quote non stealthy. Hmmm, un stealthy for
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: that one. Now here's here's the least stealthy thing about
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: these bigfoot sightings in northeast Ohio. Four of the seven
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: sightings were in broad daylight. A fifth sighting was right
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: after sunset. So it got me wondering, as you suggested, Steve,
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: is this the result of the bigfoot rush?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Could it be? You know what it might be? Remember
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: a dude in Montana got himself a bigfoot suit and
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: jumped out in front of a car to scare the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: people in the car, but to hit him and kill them.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: There's like a certain hazard to doing these shenanigans that night.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Like it's just you're more likely to draw a gunfire
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff like.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: That instead of broad daylight.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're just like less likely to get shot. Yeah.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: No, I think it could be the bigfoot rut. Maybe
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: there was a she squatch coming into Astris that week,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: or was it the March third full moon that got
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: these bigfoots on their feet in daylight? As we talked
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: about with dear biologists in the past. You know, there's
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of lore. What were the dates it was,
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: like March fifth, to the tenth.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Mercury was in retrograde, right, Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: I forgot it. Didn't consider that now. I used to
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: do a series on our website called Ask a Squatcher,
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: where I interviewed bigfoot experts and asked them some really
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: basic questions like is bigfoot dangerous? What's the best evidence
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: that bigfoot exists? What does bigfoot eat? One of the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: questions I asked was why have bigfoot sightings decrease? And
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: in that article I pointed out that bigfoot encounter surged
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: in the early two thousands, but they've gone way down
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: since two thousand and nine, and I wanted to get
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: their take on this. I interviewed folks like doctor Jeffrey Meldrum,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: Ronnie LeBlanc, Matt Moneymaker. You probably don't know those names,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: but that'd be like if I said Lebron James Michael Jordan,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Like that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: It's just like that. Yeah. My favorite response, though, was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: from Jeremiah Byron, the founder of the Bigfoot Society. Here's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: his quote. The bigfoot population is not dying out, So
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: don't if in case you thought that was it, it's not.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: But there are less sightings because we as a culture
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: are not going out in the woods anymore. It's as
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: simple as that. Bigfoot is not going to show up
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: in your Instagram dms. You'll only see him while out
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: exploring state forests or national parks. When's the last time
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: we took time to do that. It's probably been a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: while since Bigfoot has seen a human either.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I like that though.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Remember I said, there's never anything other to say than.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: I've added a lot to this story.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah well, no, no, you didn't know. You did a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: great job. His point though, because because the Bigfoot people
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: are going to need to have a rackoning with trail camps. Sure,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: but it was suggested to me that they're on a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: bigfoots are on a dimension that isn't that isn't big
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: trail camps aren't able to capture them.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: Well, Jeremiah says, the drop in Bigfoot sightings it's a negative,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: you know, it's actually a reflection of how Americans have
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: a weaker relationship with the outdoors. And he's not totally wrong.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: Here's a graph showing the Bigfoot sightings by year. As
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: you can see, was pretty consistent trend, But then there
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: was that spike in twenty twenty, which of course was
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: when COVID hit. We all know how that impacted fishing
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: license sales and campground reservations. So in twenty twenty, Bigfoot
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: had had a little renaissance.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I like that he's using his esoteric interest to encourage
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: people to spend time outside.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bigfoot, Now, I reached out to my castle.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Terric, I don't know the corrections are
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: going to get me.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I reached out to my cast and Bigfoot experts to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: get their take on the Ohio sidings. Haven't heard back
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: from them yet, but I'm hoping we learned that it
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: was the wad or the full moon or mercury in
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: metro Grade. I'll give you guys an update in a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: future episode when we find out if it's now Bigfoot
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: post rud in northeast Ohio.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, No, that was great. I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: thought it was good. Listen we had I'm not goofing
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: on it because remember we had a Bigfoot person on.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah she did again, she wasn't though. She was a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: reporter on Bigfoot, so it's not like I'm above it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I liked the story.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: I was bringing some candy to the episode. You guys
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: provided a lot of vegetables and then here I come,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: you know, with a bucket full of dessert.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I'm interested. Oh did you bring your foot?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: No, I haven't brought my foot. Spencer has a big
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: Foot's foot Sea wants in the new studio. Yeah, it's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: in my office.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: You paid good money, didn't You could have just brought
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: it downstairs for this.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Well, it's just too close. It only cost him.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: You can get your own.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: What do you mean like, I've got a cast of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: the most famous Bigfoot in the world of Patterson Gimlin.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Were you telling me that you regretted buying it?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: No, zero regret. I thought I would regret it, and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: I never did. Hasn't hasn't hit me yet.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Always a good feeling when you're conducting a transaction. I'm
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: probably gonna regret this, has.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: No it's It's been one of my best purchases I've made.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think it was a cast off a cast
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: or do you think it actually touched the cast.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: There's a number of folks who own a cast, and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: so I don't think I got my cast off.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Of the cast.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like a third hand cast.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like quite removed. You're not going
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: to find like a hair in your cast or something else.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to like join a bigfoot hunting party?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: No, now I haven't.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: You should?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, do it all. I love it. But again
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: I've said this a thousand times. I don't believe in bigfoot.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what I found out recently that it
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: startled me. This is the end of the show, lads, gentlemen.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: But I found out recently that the writer Peter Matheson, okay,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: so was a big foot enthusiast. So when he was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: working on the snow leopard in the Himalaya, he's working
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: on the snow leopard, he got interested in some of
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: the people he was with were hip to the Yetti
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Yeti's and that sent him down like a path and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: he became something of a Bigfoot enthusiast and even toyed
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: with the idea about doing a book. Oh so, here's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: this like highly esteemed member of like the American Literati
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Prize winning author was sucked in and we were robbed
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: of that book was sucked in.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with him. I you know, it's a few
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: of my favorite things mushrooms and rocks like that community RockHounds,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: mushroom hunters. They love bigfoot like that's that ven diagram
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: is just one circle of you know, people who like bigfoot,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: rocks and mushrooms. So I just get a lot of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: exposure from that.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: You're liking the crossfire, I can't avoid it. Oh quick, last,
• 1:05:31
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