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12-16-25 Hour 2 - Jokic doesn't like Jokmas/Public enemy #1, Contender or Pretender?/Contender or Pretender Pt 2 · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: We were trying very hard to get the matchup that
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  Speaker 2: we could get when you're playing that small. We did
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  Speaker 2: a great job when Yoak was still in finding the matchup,
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  Speaker 2: playing the pick and roll and just finding the right play,
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  Speaker 2: found the pocket. Our spacing was much better towards the end,
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  Speaker 2: the flat spacing that led to Spencers three. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we got really good looks once we really opened the
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  Speaker 2: court up for our two guys. So there was a
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  Speaker 2: ton of positives and then a ton of film to
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  Speaker 2: watch so we can work on in the case that
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  Speaker 2: Valance Unis and Jokic foul out of a game. In
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  Speaker 2: that game, it's something we have to talk about though,
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  Speaker 2: because it could happen, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 2: it was a really great affort by our guys out there. Man,
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  Speaker 2: they just made an plays to win the game. Gets
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  Speaker 2: a really really good team.
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  Speaker 3: One twenty eight, one twenty five, in overtime, Nuggets take
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  Speaker 3: down Houston for the second time this season. Denver finally
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  Speaker 3: snapped their four game home losing streak. They've won five
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  Speaker 3: in a row now and on the holiday, the ohso
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  Speaker 3: highest of holidays. Yokmuss they're now four and one all time.
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  Speaker 3: How about them apples?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Vicky say he hates that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh doesn't understand it, and it's no surprise to me.
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  Speaker 5: Think about it. Do you think Nikola Jokic, who is
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  Speaker 5: not a fan of talking about himself, praising himself, nothing
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  Speaker 5: about self, do you think he would entertain some made
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  Speaker 5: up holiday that's about him. I knew the minute that
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  Speaker 5: this became a big thing and everybody discussed it and
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  Speaker 5: we made a big deal out of it. I knew
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  Speaker 5: deep down he hated it. And you know the superpower
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  Speaker 5: that dmac possesses. Dmc is the best at this, our boy,
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  Speaker 5: d mac. He is so good at asking questions that
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  Speaker 5: will rate some sort of he knows the conflict that's coming.
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  Speaker 5: Put it that way. He understands good questioning and he
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  Speaker 5: asked a good one at the end of the press
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  Speaker 5: conference last night. The cold today's yochis is that.
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  Speaker 2: I who was it who was dead?
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  Speaker 5: Killing me?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you, guys, They all pointed at Brendan vote
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  Speaker 3: of d n VR. I guess he was the one
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  Speaker 3: who came up with Yochmis, which, by the way, Yochmiss
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  Speaker 3: is celebrating the first time NICOLEA. Jokic was inserted into
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  Speaker 3: the starting lineup. Oh so many years ago.
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  Speaker 5: He was inserted into the starting lineup before that game
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  Speaker 5: against Portland. It's just he was inserted for permanent good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I meant. Thank you for clarifying.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. So last night, specifically from Jokic thirty nine,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen and ten. However, it wasn't like he was his
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  Speaker 3: normal self. He wasn't a model of efficiency. He was
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  Speaker 3: thirteen of twenty seven. Now he was efficient from three
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  Speaker 3: to five of nine. But the shot wasn't falling in
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  Speaker 3: the paint, Vic, But it didn't stop him. His persistence
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  Speaker 3: kind of made up for the fact that he wasn't hitting.
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  Speaker 5: He knew that he had to, you know, power up
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  Speaker 5: against a big team man on those guys attack boards
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  Speaker 5: and Joker Again, what makes Joker the best player on
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  Speaker 5: the planet is he can beach in so many ways.
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  Speaker 5: Last night five three pointers. He made more threes than
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  Speaker 5: anybody on the court. And that's your starting center, your
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  Speaker 5: interplanetary center. He made threes, he made runners. I thought
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  Speaker 5: the biggest shot he made he made a fallaway, the
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  Speaker 5: Somber shuffle.
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  Speaker 4: That was nice.
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  Speaker 5: That was really sweet, baby and necessary. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 5: just a shop maker, boys. And when he fouled out
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  Speaker 5: and he rightfully fouled out, I keep reading, you know,
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  Speaker 5: why would they foul Joker out because he fouled? How
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  Speaker 5: do you guys want Listen? I'm not going to beat
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  Speaker 5: the double standard here. I'm not going to be the
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  Speaker 5: hypocrite on this. If you foul, you foul. I don't
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  Speaker 5: care who you are, I don't care how some players
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  Speaker 5: are treated. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But you fouled.
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  Speaker 5: That was an obvious foul, and he fouled out of
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  Speaker 5: the game.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it should have been called on Murray. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Adaman had a point there.
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  Speaker 5: Fine, he was trying to get to the there's an
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  Speaker 5: earlier foul before the big foul, right, but he still.
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  Speaker 3: Fouled, correct, I guess. I mean it's as soft as Charman,
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess. I mean he touched him. I
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  Speaker 3: think he touched him. I don't know if i'd say
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  Speaker 3: he fouled him, but he definitely touched him. Either way,
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  Speaker 3: he fouled out. It was one twenty six one one
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  Speaker 3: with a minute twenty three left in overtime, and the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets had to just get that thing into the clubhouse
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  Speaker 3: from there. Spencer Jones played a big role in that.
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  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray was really good. Tim Hardaway Junior bit off
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  Speaker 3: offensively last night. Yeah, it wasn't finding a shot, but
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  Speaker 3: I thought he did some good things. And obviously at
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  Speaker 3: the end of regulation he got fouled, which before it
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  Speaker 3: was inbounded, so he got a free throw and the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets got the ball back.
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  Speaker 5: If you're wondering, by the way, the final seconds for
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  Speaker 5: Houston on their inbound right, they had to have a
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  Speaker 5: three to tie it. The Nuggets, according to coach Edelman,
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  Speaker 5: they were trying to foul. They're going to foul, which
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  Speaker 5: is why that shot looked so awkward because I didn't
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  Speaker 5: think Shane Goon he thought he was going to get fouled,
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  Speaker 5: and it was uh who was guarding him at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it was Cam, but it was Cam
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  Speaker 3: and it was Tim Hardaway, if memory serves, and then.
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  Speaker 5: Bruce Brown switched on to him.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it was.
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  Speaker 5: Brown, Bruce Brown switched on to him and Bruce said
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  Speaker 5: he was going to foul him until he went up
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  Speaker 5: into his shooting motion and then let him go. But
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  Speaker 5: I you know, that's what's crazy about those final seconds.
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  Speaker 5: What do you do when you're up by three? Do
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  Speaker 5: you foul? What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 4: Well? Six, what one does in the other? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if Shack, I'm fouling, right, if it's Chicquillo O'Neill. But
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  Speaker 4: if it's if it's a guy who's you know, ninety
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  Speaker 4: percent from the line, then the answer is no, I
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  Speaker 4: probably don't. But that whole overtime made me nervous. Before
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  Speaker 4: you knew it, the Nuggets had jumped out to a
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  Speaker 4: seven point lead. If I'm not mistaken, but one twenty four,
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  Speaker 4: one seventeen, and I'm like, okay, okay, everything's good then
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  Speaker 4: and then and then it just it was just gut
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  Speaker 4: ranching the rest of the way. You know. It was like,
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  Speaker 4: oh man, and if they make this three then we're
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  Speaker 4: doomed or go to doublet uh. But they pull out
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  Speaker 4: the dub. That's all that matters. They pulled out the dub,
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  Speaker 4: and Vic I don't know what you do. Do you
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  Speaker 4: foul or do you just let him take it. If
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  Speaker 4: it's Shangun, I let him take it because he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have that kind of range.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the play is for Kevin Durant and two guys
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  Speaker 3: kind of switched off and everybody did a great job
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  Speaker 3: to nine KD the entry pass, so shan Gun kind
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  Speaker 3: of comes open and he gets the ball right away.
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  Speaker 3: It's a turn in face and to your point, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: he's expecting them to foul, so he just lets it
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  Speaker 3: go to try and get the shot off. It's an airball.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I in that moment without Nikola Jokic
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  Speaker 3: on the floor, I'm not typically a proponent of fouling
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  Speaker 3: up three, but in that moment, manufacturing a win against
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  Speaker 3: the team that's right behind you in the Western Conference standings,
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  Speaker 3: you foul all day there, and I'm fine with that
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  Speaker 3: as long as you don't foul a three point shooter.
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  Speaker 5: It just extends the game, right, it makes it makes
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  Speaker 5: it a half an hour to finish your game. That's
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  Speaker 5: all it does.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just smart, even if it isn't aesthetically pleasing,
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  Speaker 3: I thought in that moment, So I credit David Adelman
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  Speaker 3: for that. Here is a David Adaman post game on
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  Speaker 3: Yoke miss which, by the way, he had the best
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  Speaker 3: quote of them all when it came to yoke Miss
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  Speaker 3: in Denver.
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  Speaker 4: Locally we call it yoke Miss on December fifteenth. He
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  Speaker 4: began a full time.
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  Speaker 3: Starter in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 5: That's curious if you've ever heard of.
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  Speaker 2: That, if it means anything to you, if I could,
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  Speaker 2: there's any.
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  Speaker 3: Way I can coax you into a quote about Instle.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like every day is that like
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  Speaker 2: he's our he's our best you know, he's our best
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  Speaker 2: player and to won a lot of awards and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So we're lucky to have him on this day and
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and ever many days he decides to stay here
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  Speaker 2: in Denver, Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: Yoke Miss Christmas, New Year's hanaka Kwan's. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Every day is every day is special with Nicole Jokic mos.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, every single day. I mean it's he's just such
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  Speaker 4: an important player. You just you simply can't put it
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  Speaker 4: into words anymore. I mean, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how you could. He's just phenomenal and everything that
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  Speaker 4: he does, you know, and he had eleven defensive rebounds
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  Speaker 4: last night. Again you're talking about another triple double before
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  Speaker 4: he fouled out. It's just he's a special dude. I'm curious, though, Vic,
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  Speaker 4: what other teams around the West. Maybe Okay, see isn't
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  Speaker 4: too worried about it. But if I'm Houston walking out
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  Speaker 4: of there, going, god, man, you got to go into
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  Speaker 4: a series against these guys in the postseason and wonder,
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  Speaker 4: really can we win? You know what I mean? There's
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  Speaker 4: got to be doubt there because that guy exists.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they've played the Nuggets twice, the Rockets have been
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  Speaker 5: both times, they've lost by three, and they've both been
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  Speaker 5: winnable games for Houston. This is an even series, bro,
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  Speaker 5: That's an even matchup. However, remember the Nuggets have been
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  Speaker 5: short staffed in both of those games.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: The Nuggets have not had all of their fireworks. Their
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  Speaker 5: power is they're not playing with the same roster right now.
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  Speaker 5: And the fact that they've able to beat Houston twice
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  Speaker 5: without those guys and without Peyton Watson last night. And
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  Speaker 5: if you're just tuning in the Peyton Watson injury, it's
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  Speaker 5: a lower trunk contusion. According to David Adelman, he got
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  Speaker 5: like a stinger. It's not a long term injury and
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  Speaker 5: he expects him to be back at some point soon.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, this Texter makes your point perfectly. Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 3: Rockets and Nuggets a great matchup when Denver doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: AG and CB. Yeah, I mean, it's been impressive to
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  Speaker 3: beat that team shorthanded because we get you in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, that could be the team you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: have to beat in the second round.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Here is David Adelman, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: talking about that right trunk contusion, which again, what is
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  Speaker 3: a trunk? Explain that to me. What's a trunk?
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  Speaker 5: Well, trunk is where a lot of my brethren in
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  Speaker 5: the mafia keep their bodies.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and Watson bruised that, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of discomfort. It was bone on bone.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things where I think it could
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  Speaker 2: be totally fine tomorrow, but it hurt him. I it
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  Speaker 2: was one of those like stingers that he just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get himself, you know, warmed up again. Hates a tough kid,
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  Speaker 2: so when he you know, he called for the southern foul.
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  Speaker 2: You knew it wasn't good.
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  Speaker 4: But nothing long.
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  Speaker 2: Terms, as far as I understand, it's just a probably
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  Speaker 2: a bone bruise.
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  Speaker 4: And go ahead, no, no, who was it? Feel your hips, guys,
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  Speaker 4: Just feel your hips real quick, reach down on the
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  Speaker 4: sides and feel your hips. Okay, right there at the
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  Speaker 4: top of your hip. Who who was it that that
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  Speaker 4: suffered a broken bone? There they broke the wing of
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  Speaker 4: their of their Hipho who did that?
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  Speaker 5: Let's all go ahead instead up and do this sex
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  Speaker 5: or fill your hands, get down and touch feel your.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get to your neighbor, feel feel your.
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  Speaker 4: Navel, tummy yeah, Tommy, yeah, okay, copy yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do we have to pat our heads while we do this?
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  Speaker 5: Get your elbow.
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  Speaker 4: It's a trunk, dude, it's a trunk. So if we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about like right there, you're at the top of
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  Speaker 4: the hip, that's what we're talking about, right there and
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  Speaker 4: deep in that trunk. Anything else somebody suffered that. Somebody
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  Speaker 4: suffered a broken hip wing like yeah, well, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know describe it. Yeah, I mean you're the grandma brokeer cuxix.
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  Speaker 4: Uh you know one of our don't I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what you call it.
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  Speaker 5: One of our twitters reminds us that Jason Elam once
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  Speaker 5: cracked his transverse process.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever that is right, and that's right next to your
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  Speaker 3: inverse process. That's what I was told, at least, by
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  Speaker 3: the way. A couple other notes, thank you. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: a couple other notes from last night, VIC mentioned the
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  Speaker 3: Watson injury, So maybe he misses some time. You've got
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  Speaker 3: Orlando on Thursday. Houston, by the way, comes back. They
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  Speaker 3: got to do this again on Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: Weird schedule because of the NBA Cup. The the Saturday
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  Speaker 5: game was already on the schedule. Last night's game was
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  Speaker 5: added to the schedule by result of the NBA Cup.
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  Speaker 5: So twice in one week, you're hosting the Rockets. Hopefully
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  Speaker 5: by Saturday. Peyton Watson's ready to go. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: have Christian Brown. You're not gonna have Aaron Gordon. People
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  Speaker 5: keep asking about those two. Christian Brown is out of
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  Speaker 5: his boot, but he's not going to play this week
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  Speaker 5: or next week.
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  Speaker 4: He's not.
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  Speaker 5: He's not going to be available. And Aaron Gordon's not
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  Speaker 5: gonna be available till the new year.
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  Speaker 3: Someone else says on the text line, put some respect
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  Speaker 3: on Spencer Jones' name. You have to. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: guy plays forty one minutes last night, he's in there
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  Speaker 3: playing the five after Jokic fouls out. Great defense on
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. Durant has twenty five last night, but I
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  Speaker 3: thought largely in the fourth quarter he was held pretty
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  Speaker 3: quiet because of Spencer Jones. Spencer Jones so good to
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  Speaker 3: see from the two way guy. Twenty nine games left
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  Speaker 3: to figure out what you want to do with him.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously they're gonna sign him to a deal, right, and
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  Speaker 3: the question becomes, how do you create space? And I
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  Speaker 3: know you talked about some space modes that played last night,
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  Speaker 3: but I got three names on the end of that
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  Speaker 3: bench that are doing nothing other than warm in those chairs.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's easier said than done.
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  Speaker 3: Fair Enough, fair enough, I'm not saying that I have
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  Speaker 3: your answer right now. And clearly you don't have many
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  Speaker 3: assets to attach to try and get somebody to just
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  Speaker 3: take some roster space from the people.
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  Speaker 5: Don't take money off you. I understand, off your books.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's good. Nobody wants to help you for free. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: nobody's out there just being you know, a good other
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  Speaker 4: team in the league, out of the goodness of their heart.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to incentivize it somehow.
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  Speaker 3: So so what do you do?
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  Speaker 4: Vic?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what I've been racking by brain.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I got three names in Pickett, Tyson, and
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  Speaker 3: Nase that I mean there is good to you as
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  Speaker 3: Christmas decoration.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing you can do is attach a player
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  Speaker 5: that has value. And there are some players on this
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  Speaker 5: team that may not be fundamental to your success, role
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  Speaker 5: players that you can attach to a package. That's the
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  Speaker 5: only thing you can do.
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  Speaker 4: What can you do? I can't even believe I'm saying this,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm only saying it because I.
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  Speaker 5: Realized Ron Holmes has value. Do you want to part with?
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  Speaker 4: I was just that's where I'm going, because you gotta
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  Speaker 4: have Spencer Jones. And if it comes to the price
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  Speaker 4: of Doron Holmes, then it comes to the price of
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  Speaker 4: a Doron Holmes.
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  Speaker 5: Well that's easier, So I want to do it. Doron
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  Speaker 5: Holmes is tearing up the G League. And I know
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  Speaker 5: it's just the G League, but how many players already,
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  Speaker 5: including Spencer Jones, have gone through that where you play
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  Speaker 5: really well down there and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: here you're playing pretty well up here.
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  Speaker 3: I think you need help now. So can Doron Holmes
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  Speaker 3: help you this year? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I don't disagree. You know, that's a great way to
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  Speaker 5: look at it, Louis. Everybody keeps talking about do you
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  Speaker 5: want to betray the future of a player who.
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  Speaker 4: Can help you down the line.
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  Speaker 5: In my estimation, there is no down the line.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's the here and that the down the line.
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  Speaker 5: Look at the Nuggets. This isn't Oklahoma City. You're crewing
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  Speaker 5: fix and you're keeping all these stockpiled picks that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 5: You're line is Nikola Jokic. That's your line it dude.
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  Speaker 4: He's averaging. He's averaging twenty one to eight and four.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody reminds us they have a roster spot open. We
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  Speaker 5: know the Nuggets have a roster spot open. That's not
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  Speaker 5: the issue. The issue is if you sign him now,
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  Speaker 5: you go into that second apron because of the number
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: that he needs to be signed to. If you enter
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: the second apron, you get hit with certain restrictions. They
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: did everything they could to get out of that apron.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: It's not my money. Twenty one For my money, man,
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: I give me every apron.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Twenty one, twenty one, eight and four. Who you're talking
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: about most.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Isn't what's doron Holmes stats in the g oh god,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: oh god, twenty one to eight and four. That's what
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: it is. Am I wrong about that?
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Wonderful?
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: It's looked it up.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: If he can help right now, I think that's fantastic.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I do. But if he can't, then I think other
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: conversations agreed to be had agreed, But you're see this
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: windows open right now?
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed. But this is where GMMY becomes a bit
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: of an issue too, because you know, you want to
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: try to plan for the future the best you possibly can,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: and you know it's that guy might end up being
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: a hell of a player.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Mojer, you tease us on something before the break?
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: What was it?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, no, no, no, it's not because I
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: wanted to get to it. In the next segment, Most
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: said there's a new public enemy number one. Isn't that correct? Yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: well he'll tell you now.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Although some people you want to see the defenders come
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: out of the woodwork. It's fine.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait, so they'll come at you right
• 16:32
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• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I'll do it. On the other side, they do.
• 16:35
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• 17:15
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• 17:18
  Speaker 4: What are we What are we doing here?
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: We're doing grapes of wrath?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: No, that's Steinbeck, right, yes, good, good correction from a
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: jewelery in the room like Terry Steinbach, the former catcher
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: is out what we're doing?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: But what what are we doing?
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: What is the piano manufacturer?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Steinway?
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Steinway?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: That can't be it, that can't be it. All right, Mose,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: we've waited long enough. Who's new public enemy number one?
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Did you guys see what happened in the National Hockey
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: League last night.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I saw Miko make a sweet pass to do Shane
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: on the doorstep.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: He did that was a really awesome pest. Did you
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: see Miko run his former teammate Darcy Kemper and knock
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: him out of the game.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't see that, but is he now that you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Didn't see that? I don't know. I sent Matt, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: sent you the video. Did you get it? Oh?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I saw it. I watched. I watched the game.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I sent you the video. Did you did you? Did
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you see it? Did you say I sent you the
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: video I sent. I sent you the video. So I'd
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: like to.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Block most of your videos.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: So that's a good call after that last year, it
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: is that last one was not safe for work.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Ranton had himself a pretty damn good night. He
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: had a goal and an assist. Last night. Wyatt Johnson
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: had an empty netter and an assist on the Duchane
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: gold as well. I mean pretty good, Uh, pretty good
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: night for the Dallas Stars. They you know, they they
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: lost that one game four nothing. They came back and
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: they beat the Kings. They scored three in that third
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: period of play, but they knocked out Darcy Kemper. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you tell me what you see.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: You're being dramatic, am I?
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: That are you claiming that Miko purposely tried to injure
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: a former teammate of his and no it was no.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: So what's the claim here? It just he ran into
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: the goalie.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he ran into the goalie. Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: What do you see that makes you think, oh my god,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: look at this, he's a cannibal.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Well they're saying that Dumel, that Dumalin buried him into
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: his own goalie and whatnot. I'm telling you that Brandon's
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: getting to a place.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Most where he plays this is stretch that that Seriously,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I got to stop you before you get out of hand.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: They ran into each other, kniper got hurt.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I will say it's a string of very interesting incidents
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: for Miko because I'll give him. I'll give him this.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: When he was here, he really wasn't like that. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: mean we were begging him to throw his body around
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: more when he was here. But something has awakened in him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And I mean he's got yeah, forty four points now.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: He had a great goal last night too. They are
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: buzzing in Dallas, and I mean they're right on the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Avs heels. You can't blink. They really the stars there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: And they're doing it again. Tyler Sagan's gone for the year.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: He's got a bloat up knee, so he's he's completely done.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Uh and Ben had to collapse long and so on.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that Miko Ranton and right now is
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: absolutely carrying that team. He is playing unbelievably good hockey
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: right now. Did you for twelve million bucks a year
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: he should be.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Did you think that was bad last night when he
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: knocked into Darcy.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm saying, if you
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: start to get a reputation, it looked was Darcy kemper
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: in his crease or was he not in his crease?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: He was right on the edge of his crease.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: You can see it over my shoulder there, Vic.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I will. I will tell you if you talk to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: former players, they will they will. I don't care what
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: the fans say. If you talk to former players, they know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: they know how to avoid, they know how to do this,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: they know how to do that. Because he felt the pressure,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: then he's like it all happens, bang bang. He knows
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that he can get away with something and a forearm
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: shiret of the head. Whether you think it was, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: a bad one or a baby one or whatever that
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. Former players that I talk to last
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: night would say to you. In fact, I'll tell you, well,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: let's get one of them on. I'll get well, I'll
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: give him a text. Okay, you know, I.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Don't care who you get on. I'm gonna ask you
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: a question that's going to pretty much ruin your argument.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: If Miko does that in an avalanche sweater. Are you
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: this vociferous? Yeah, that's what you know. That's what we're
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: doing here.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: What I'm trying to try to send a text?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Send a text, I'll talk.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: We can we can walk and talk at the same time.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. He wouldn't be. Somebody on the text
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: line says Miko is suffering from the Jamie ben adjacency
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: effect turns anybody into a goon.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: You sent that to me thinking, oh my god, now
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: the run he made last week or two weeks ago
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: on that guy that was bad, that was that was bad.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: This is nothing, I thought.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: The one that is the one making crap up, the
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: one that the one that he did the week before
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: that when he when he ran Broaman off head first
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: into the inboard.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was brutal.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: That was that all? Scott? Okay? What was that all?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Scott Mayfield? Oh, he got pushed. I was saying, this
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: is nothing. I'm okay, it's nothing. Okay, all right.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: You sound like a jilted lover again. I'm sorry, moj
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I love you, you are my brother. But you guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: gotta just step away. Calm down. He's just playing his hockey.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: You guys gonna are you gonna DNA test him after
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: every play he makes.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, they they will if they have to. I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that's just how it goes, by the way. Kevin Weeks
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: ESPN just reports, and I don't know if you saw
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: this the other day, but Connor Badard, the Blackhawks young
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: star who was on track to push for the Olympic
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: roster for Team Canada, got injured at the last play
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: of the game against the Blues. Braiden Shen kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: lift the shoulder up. You know, we all know former
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: former buddy of ours Braiden Shen, the captain of the Blues,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: apparently separated shoulder. He's gonna be out for a little while.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: That sucks.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that's tough because Badard is having a
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: wonderful season. Yeah, you know. And and what also stinks
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: is that it could affect his, you know, selection for
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Team Canada. Now. I don't know that he was gonna
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: make the team. I think he should. If you're if
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you're a guy who's even whispered in the Heart Trophy discussion,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: you're a top five scorer in this league, you should
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: be on damn Team Canada. I don't care how young
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: you are, but you know that that's a that's a
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: tough hee. He's gonna be out at least through December
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: and then I guess we'll see beyond that. Again, I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: no body expert like Vick is. You know, he claims
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: to be a doctor. I you know, broken hip wing thing.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you were thrown around those technical
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: times earlier.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: That's as good as it gets from as big as
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: it gets from me. I don't know, separated shoulders, how
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: long it takes to uh to come back from him?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I just think a lot of you
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: are being very selective with what is dirty and what
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: is just hockey. And I'm gonna call you on it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Whether you you think it's popular opinion or not. Because again, Miko,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: we all wanted him when he played for the Avs
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: to use his body more, be more aggressive, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: be be more of a hammer.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: We all he did. He started, he started holding his
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: big butt.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he started team when he didn't, When he didn't,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: people got mad. And now that he's starting to use
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: his body. Oh, Vic, you don't watch the games. Oh
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: he's dirty. Oh he's he's he's he's like all the
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Dallas stars. Okay, well let me tell you something. When
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: NOAs Cadre played here, he played with an edge? Did
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: he not? He did some things that were borderline dirty?
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Did he not? Yes or no? Yes or no?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I have fans?
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Did he not? I just don't be hypocritical.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I just looked up and Vic has his camera zoomed
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: all the way in on his Yeah, it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Was a little jar weird that way. I could do
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: it with this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: By the way, a texter is a textor points out
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: a good point. Here, Miko leads the league in penalty
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: minutes right now. I did not realize that he's the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: leader in pims now.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean he's he doesn't he's good. He
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: leaves the league in Pim's you know, overall total penalty minutes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: But for what it's worth, for whatever, I'm not even dude,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: you're talking to an objective person here. I have no
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: affiliation with Miko Ranton.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: And I don't care.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not a member of his fan club. I'm not
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: singing his song. I'm just looking at this as objectively
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: as I possibly can. Big deal, he ran into Darcy Camper,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: and you're making it sound like he shot the guy.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: All right, wait time out.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Who's making it sound like who shot who? I'm just
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: saying that he's getting this reputation around the league. Well,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: whether it's warranted or not, I'm telling you that's what
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: is happening to him. And I will also say this,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: there was a time in this league where even the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: hit on Romanov, you think, listen, I know it's his player.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Patrick Waugh was really adamant about it being dirty, because
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: players know. Fans can think what they want to think,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: but players, deep down inside they know what a guy
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: is crossing the line and not crossing the line. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: so I'm telling you what used to happen Matt back
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: in the day is that somebody was gonna go out
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: there and they were gonna thump him hard. Somebody was
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: gonna punch his mouth.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Answer this question.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: That doesn't but that doesn't happen anymore. And oh it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't. It just doesn't happen.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Just answer this question for me, because a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: you are upset over my take on this, and I'm
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: gonna answer Alex on the text line, Moser is insane,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: He's dirty. He was asking you if he's developing an
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: edgy reputation. The answer is yes. Is he playing with
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: more of an edge? Yes, that's it's obvious. I mean,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: look at what he's been in the news for the
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: last three weeks for his physical approach to the game.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: That's true. But let me ask you a question. Did
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: you want him to play with a little more edginess
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: when he played for the Avalanche? Yes or no? Yes
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: or no? Did you want him to use his body
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: more when he played for the Avalanche? Yes or no?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Is anybody gonna answer that question?
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: What? What? You have? This really bad habit of asking
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: rhetorical questions to the ether world, and you expect us
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to respond. I didn't think you were talking to us.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: He said you were talking to somebody in the text line. Everybody,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I was talking to you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Oh what was the the notion that that Miko did
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: not utilize his frame properly when he was an Avalanche player?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Was that ever brought up?
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I think in the early days it was. I thought
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: he used his frame properly. As time went on, he
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: started to develop the reverse butt hit, which was awesome.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: You know, he'd he'd the reverse hit with his big
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: old But when he first got to the league, he
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: was kind of a baby deer. He got knocked down
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: a lot. He was still gangly and skinny and so
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: on and so forth. Once that butt got to the
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: proper proportion that things started to change for him. But look,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that around the league, this guy
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: is starting I mean because my phone lit up as
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: soon as it happened, My phone lit up, and I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: wasn't watching the game, and then I had to go
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: look and see what happened. I'm like, that's interesting. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: think it's six to one way half dozen the other.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: But but former players are like, ah, dude, dude, did
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: didn't they you know, they're like, he's you know, he's
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: sly about it. But he's getting away with it now again.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: They they said the reason there was no penalty period,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: it wasn't because of a push by Doomlin. They said
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: it was a that Kemper was out of his crease,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: which he clearly was not out of his crease. But
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: that's why, that's why the call stood. Is no penalty.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: The goal was taken away. The goal was taken away,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: but there was no penalty because he was quote out
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: of his crease, but he was in his crease. So look,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it's not it's six to one way half does the other.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you what the lead the people around
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: the league are looking at. Uh.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Here on the text line, Miko was starting to take
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: dumb penalties with the APS. Yeah, a lot of stupid
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: sticking fractions for sure. Somebody else I like how he's playing, Yes,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Vic more edge for the moose. Uh just it's interesting
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: split split opinion here on the shot mas de text line.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: We will address that a little bit more later. There's
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: a couple of things I wanted to get to here.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure that we're going to have the
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: perfect amount of time for it, but let's at least start.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I want to look at the NFL. Now that week
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: fifteen is wrapped up up and we are moving forward.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Let's play a little game of contender or pretender, vic mos?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: What is this? What is this music that Nelly comes
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: up with? Now, it's it's not necessarily game show music.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: It's more like, uh, is this the green noise you
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: listened to when you go to bed?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: No?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: This, Actually it's like this was this was a this
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: is a Matt choice.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: But hell is this?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: It's the Dealer No Deal music? Yeah it is? Yeah, Okay, yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I don't watch the show.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I don't watch that show, so
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I don't anymore, So don't worry about it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It's off.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch the game show channel.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Who hasn't seen Dealer No Deal? You guys are alone.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I have seen it, but I've seen it, but it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: not it's not it was never a part of my
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: repertoire tax line.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Will you bury these guys for me? I mean, that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: just absurd. Dealer No Deal. It's a part of American culture.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Who's the who is the So it was Regius and then.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: A lady right Regius? It was Howie Mandel man, Regis, Oh.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: What am I thing? I who wants to be a millionaire?
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Who is that? I don't know? Whatever?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was Regius.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Get them all confused, That was Regious.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: All right, let's start in the NFC here. All you
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: have to do is tell me contender or pretender and
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: give me you get one dark horse? All right? If
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the playoffs were to start today, the seventh seed hackers
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: VIC contender or pretender.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Well, now that they lost Micah Parsons, they're not the
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: same team, but I still think offensively that team can
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: go off. So I'm gonna say contender.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say pre tender because the loss of Micah
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Parsons and Christian Watson is too huge for them to overcome. Now,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: if both of those guys were intact and they still
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: lost to the Broncos, I would say contender. But it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: those two key injuries on one on each side of
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: the football of you know, two of their best players.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think they can overcome that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: No, San Francisco, Gosh, you keep doubting them in contender,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: they keep winning. I think they're a contender no matter
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: who they put out there.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: And and it's only because it's only because the amount
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: of sucking it up that the San Francisco forty nine
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: ers have done this year. I'm telling you Kyle Shanahan
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: should be Coach of the Year because they have dudes.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: They have dudes, you know, in the infirmary all over
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: the place, including Ayuk. Did you see that video of him?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Not the video, but the post where he's got a
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: new car and he's calling out the Niners. Anyway, contender, hold.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: On before we move on from this text line zero
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: seven to seven eight classic boomer morons living under a
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: rock who the hell doesn't know deal or no deal music?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: All right, that's what I was trying to say.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: All right, tough guys, get out and maybe play dunk
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Coops once in a while.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Get out of your house, go play dunk hoops, right,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Go go play dunk Hoops for your.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Cartoons in the game show network all day. Get off
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: your video gaming console.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: What is dunk Hoops? All right, Seahawks contender or pretender?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Wait? Did you he just asked what dunk Coops is?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Now I have to die. I'm sorry. Now I'm dead.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I'm bye, I'm dead.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: VIC Seahawks Oh, they're contender all the way. Yeah. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: mean they're allowed to have bad games. They had a
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: bad game last week and they still won. Yeah, that's
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: a contender.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, I will Uh, they're They're a definite contender. Let's look.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I like this. I want to keep this.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You want to keep going here?
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: All right? So we've got I want to I want
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: to do it more on the other side. That sounds
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: good to me. Let's do and I want I want
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to explain to you what dunk Coops is, because man,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: are we God? Sometimes your age just comes through.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I have no clue.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to hold on in a second. I've
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: been called boomer for a lot of things. What world
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: do we live in where I'm referred to as a
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: boomer because I don't know game show music? I mean,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: think about that for a second. Listen to these geeks.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: No, it was because it was because you said you
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: did the deal or no deal. It wasn't just the music,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: it was the show in general.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I've never watched the show in my life, and I
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: don't care to.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Well, good, it's not on anymore. You can't. Let's continue
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: to all the other side.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, also Smith, Yeah, I'm really mad this morning because
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: it's still dark outside here in Seattle at seven thirty
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: eight in the morning. Bro, this is not what humans
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: should do. Humans should not be should be darkened it
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: at Flippin' Oh boy, don't I don't do this dark
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: at seven thirty eight in the morning. Stuff, man, I'm out.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, your keyboard for the eight to twenty hours, Steinbach,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: good luck spelling it first last day.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: You need to get outside every once in a while.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: will continue. On the other side, Moser Lombardian came with
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Matt Smith. Thanks so much for being here on this Tuesday.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: By the way, ABS ticket Tuesday, stay tuned for your
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: next keyword nine to twenty. Before the break, we were
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: playing a little game of contender or pretender. But before
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: we resume action on that, MoES needs to inform me
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: about some old people stuff. So, Mosa, without further ado,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: you were telling me about dunk coops. Is that correct?
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's I just what's the I need I
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: need to find out from Vic Vic what's the what's
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the what is the age cutoff for dunk hoops?
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I ended, I stopped playing at fifty two.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: It was my last game, That's what. But I mean, no, yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: what's the what's the age where all of a sudden
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: people don't know what dunk coops is anymore? Oh, I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: You stopped playing when you can't jump anymore.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: On the text line, I'm fifty two and I have
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: no idea what dunk coops is.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: You're missing out. It's better than.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Pickaball well that I believe, Go ahead, just.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's adjustable basketball hope that you
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: can dunk on.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: You shorten the rim up a little bit.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: You shorten the dun't bring it down. You can dunk,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: got it?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You mean just playing basketball on eight foot rims.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily feet. I mean at this point I probably
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: had have trouble with seven feet. Depends on your jump ability.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You can go nine feet nine and a half feet,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: eight and a half feet, and it can go three feet.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: It was called dunk hoops.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: It was cold. You make it sound like it's a
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: prehistoric game. It's still think it was.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: What are we doing here?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: The term is prehistorically?
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Everybody doing what do you do all day?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Please? It's fun to lower the rims down to eight
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, pretend that we can all jump in
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: more athletes kids. Of course, I understand, it's awesome. I understand, No,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: it is awesome. That is fun.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: I just you know this moment, you're not here today,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: it's already windy's all get out outside. If you walk
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: outside in the Golden Area, it's windy. Do you know
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: that Excel has already warned everybody in the metro Denver
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: area that the wind is going to be so extreme
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: tomorrow they're gonna they're gonna shut it down. I mean
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: when I say shut it down like power, they're gonna
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: shut it down across the front range.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Does that mean we don't have to come in?
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I'm very curious how this is going to work because
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: they've they've warned us, and maybe somebody with the power
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: company can explain. So if you're gonna shut it down,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: which is you know, it's fine. I'm not arguing the
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: point you don't want fires like we had. The Marshall
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: fire was awful. I totally understand why. I'm not arguing
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: that point. But if you're gonna shut it down, how
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: do like, how do we work what happens what does everybody?
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: What does everybody do at noon tomorrow? No, noon is
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: the time tomorrow.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: What happens our buddy Chris Bianki strong winds in high
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: fire danger tomorrow with sixty to eighty mile an hour
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: gus in the foothills and forty to sixty mile an
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: hour gus in Denver. So definitely interesting if you do
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: work for the electric company, the electric company.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: But listen to me, what do you do if everything
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: is shut down?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: You don't do anything? That's what you do?
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: You does anybody have an answer?
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Wait it outside?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: You play, That's what you do. You just you just
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: wait it out. I mean, it's just wind.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: This is bad. I got this one tree on the
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: side of my house, this aspen. I gotta cut it
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: back because every time it gets really, really windy, it
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: bends just enough to tap the side of the roof.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: And the whole house.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Verber's, Oh man, that stinks. See, I don't think.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: You guys are really giving this enough of you guys
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: are smiling like it's not a big deal. I live
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: in an area we've had our power out for two
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: three days at a time. It's a big deal.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: What what is your biggest concern here, Well.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: The refrigerator is a concern because that's happened the food.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: We've gotten to the bottom of it. You want to
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: know the truth, I get a generator, plug the fridge
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: into a generator.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Here's my biggest concern. Every time this happens, and this
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: happens a lot on the west side of town, my
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: wife says, can you go buy a generator like our
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: neighbors so that when this happens we can And every
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: time I say I ain't buying a generator, I'm not.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. I'm not mister generator guy. I'm
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: not gonna go out and get one. And so I
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: always convinced you're not. It's cool, good, It's not gonna
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: happen again.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, if you want to get like a real generator.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not buying. I'm not doing You're.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Gonna pay fifteen gees to have this.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Just go get a little gas generator, run an extension
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: cord outside your house and run the generators chords. Everything
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: is not that complicated. Not doing it all right, let's.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Move So is the wind tomorrow gonna be a pretender
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: or a contender?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: The music?
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Thank you God, Steve thank you. Oh my goodness, Seattle contender.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you. We were going through the NFC and the AFC.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: VIC and Moses are telling us who their contenders and
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: pretenders are and if they they get a chance to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: use one dark horse per conference. By the way, so
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: so far the only pretender we have. Moser says green
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Bay is a pretender. VIC says green Bay is a contender.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: And they both think San Francisco and Seattle are legitimate
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: contenders as well. So let's continue on Buccaneers in fourth place.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And there there Schizophron pretender. Yeah, they're not no chance.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I've lost a lot of faith in them. I mean
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: that that last loss was horrid, horrid.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Eagle Uh yeah, because they've been there, done that. Yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: you get them in. They can beat you, ain't no
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: doubt about it.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: If they can find their ground game, if they can
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: find it consistently, they're going to be contender.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: If is a big ifender, I'll say contender. Oh boy,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the second seeded Chicago Bears.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Not a chance in hell.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Like the wind blows, that's what they.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Are, ye.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Lewis, I'm not an authority on Chick Cargo Bears football.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen enough of them. I've seen more. I've
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: seen more games of every other team in the NFC
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: except the Bears. It seems, I just.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Don't they ain't ready. They ain't ready for that. They
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: ain't ready for the goodness of the good.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: No, uh, Rams.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Content. You cannot put a bigger CE next to the
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles Rams of of Englewood they are. That's an
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: awesome football team. Boys, I don't care what anybody thinks.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: I know what I know, and that's a damn good team.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: One dark horse for the NFC, the one dark.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Horse for the NFC, Golly, I would say, and I
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I know, I believe that they can do it. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: think San Francisco, I think that you're talking about team
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: that's already in, somebody that could get in already if
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: there again, because if the Lions get in, I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: they can make a run. But I'm looking at San
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: fran I think that Kyle Shanahan's doing a wonderful job there.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Bick, do you know that Carolina could still win its division?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: That's true?
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Carolina is your dark horse moving into
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: the playoff mode here. I think Carolina at seven to
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: seven tied with Tampa, but second place because the tie
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: breakers can be that dark horse.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Dark horse for what just to make the playoffs? Oh
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I was talking about super Bowl?
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Oh oh super Bowl? No chance there. I mean, now,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you're limiting yourself to two or three teams.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: At nighters, though nighters are most understood the assignment.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, healthy Christian McCaffrey is dangerous.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Give me Seattle, all right.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Moving to the AFC, then we start with the seven
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: seeded Texans.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: I think they're a contender. I think they found their stride.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: They're beating into a team's yeah, and they're doing it consistently.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: You're getting a two for here Lewis. They're both a
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: contender and my dark horse, because I don't think anybody's
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: gonna think a nine to five Houston Texans team can
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: go all the way. But that defense is legit. And
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: if you and the Broncos are playing awesome on both
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: sides of the football now, but I'm telling you, if
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: you get CJ. Stroud cooking a little bit and Demko Ryans,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I think is a brilliant football coach, I think that
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: that team can go.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: All right, we got to move quickly here through the
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: rest of the AFC. So Let's start with six seeded
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Buffalo contender.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: I really believe that at the end of the day,
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: if they don't fix their defense, they're going to be pretender.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Somebody will chop them up in the playoffs. So I
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: will go against the grain.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, I like it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: I will go against the Green even though they've been impressive,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: they were impressive last week. I will refer to them
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: as a pretender.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: The Chargers the five seed pretender.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: You can't win the Super Bowl with both your tackles gone.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Ah, you can't win it with a one handed quarterback either. Pretender.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I can't do it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Steelers at four, hell not emanatically move on.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Jaguars at three contender, that's my dark horse.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, I like that one.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go against the grain here. I think
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: pre tender. I guess maybe my opinion could change after Sunday.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: And to find out Sunday.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they're. I don't think they're They're
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: just like the Bears. They're not ready for prime time yet,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: but they will be someday.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: The second seeded Patriots contender, yep.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Albeit they did not end well last week, but I
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: still think they have enough in the tank to contend.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: And then of course we get to the number one
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: seed in the NFL. Your Denver Broncos.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Hell yes, contender, Hell.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, contender or pretender?
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Vic?
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: They have everything it takes upstairs. They believe, and if
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: they believe, why can't I I think they're contender?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I like that. So are contenders in the NFC
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: for Vic, Green Bay, San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, and the
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Rams FORMOJE San Francesco, Seattle, Philly and the Rams so
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: in line in the NFC. It's not until the AFC
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: where we start to deviate a little bit. Contenders both
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: agree Houston, only moj thinks Buffalo as a contender. VIC
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: is not so sure. They're split again on Jacksonville, where
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Vic believes in Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen but Moje
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: does not yet and then both gentlemen are aligned with
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the Patriots and the Broncos having a chance to win
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Now, I think it's fascinating to listen
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to your dark horses dark horse for the super Bowl
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: in the NFC. Moje says San Francisco and Vic says Seattle.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Be fascinating to see we all realize that if the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday, San Francisco more or
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: less controls their own destiny in the NFC West, So
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: don't count them out yet. And then in the AFC,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Moje says Houston and vix's Trevor Lawrence. Fascinating little list there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: It's pretty wide open. There's a lot to be decided.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: This wide open with three weeks to play.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Not that I not like the I mean, this is
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the first time since what ninety eight We're not gonna
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: have a playoffs with Brady Manning or Mahomes.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: That is crazy to think of it. You know, we
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: mentioned we just went through what six seven eight teams
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: and there's three weeks left in the regular season. One
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: of the not one of those teams would surprise.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Me at all. Right, anybody you like above the rest
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: No? I don't really, no, No, I mean yeah, yeah,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: let me let me take that back. I think the
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Rams are the class of the NFC.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Other than that, No, but they're beatable like any team.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are, absolutely, Absolutely they are.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe one last time before Kaner comes back, we'll do
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: that again and see if anything's changed over the last
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: for the last couple of weeks.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: The way that music makes you focus. It's sort of
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: like focus music.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Good pick Man.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I was just too busy patting myself on the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: on the other side. On the other side, we shoun.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Play this the entire three hours. Get me focused on
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: the other side.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton spoke to the media, and his weekly Zoom
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: presser will tell you what he said next