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  Speaker 2: This is the Best of Stugatz & Company live on
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, put it on the poll please.
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  Speaker 1: At Stugatz 790 on X, is it odd to say
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  Speaker 1: it's opening day in the NBA?
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  Speaker 3: It really is.
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  Speaker 1: That was the update from Dan Beyer. It is odd
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  Speaker 1: to have a game in the NBA season kicking off
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  Speaker 1: as we start our radio show. I don't think I've
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  Speaker 1: ever done a show in which they were playing an
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  Speaker 1: NBA game.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good point, yeah, because the playoffs, it's evenings, right,
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the week. You don't do shows
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  Speaker 4: on Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there are day games, right, Saturdays and Sundays
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  Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and I guess for the regular season
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  Speaker 1: as well. Israel Gutierrez is with us in studio. He's
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  Speaker 1: an NBA expert, dare I say, an NBA Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not at the moment. But it's a special day.
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  Speaker 1: It's opening day. It's a special day for you. If
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  Speaker 1: you have questions about the NBA, about your favorite basketball team,
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  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox, I give you an NBA borderline Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer. for the next 90 minutes or so before
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  Speaker 1: Tom Habistro joins us to talk NBA.
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  Speaker 3: Ask any NBA questions you have.
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  Speaker 4: Again, 877-99 on Fox.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering....
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  Speaker 1: Who's more emotional today, you because the season's starting or
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  Speaker 1: Taylor because the Knicks are raising a banner tonight at
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  Speaker 1: the Mecca?
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  Speaker 4: It's got to be Taylor because, I mean, while the
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  Speaker 4: season is starting today, it's only three games. And unless
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  Speaker 4: you're just like, I mean, these are three really good games.
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  Speaker 3: Great games.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm probably a bigger Pistons fan than any
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  Speaker 4: of you guys. So this first game is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 4: But it's got to be Taylor like this is. This
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  Speaker 4: very well could be a once-in-a-lifetime situation for him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like how you just said once-in-a-lifetime. I said
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  Speaker 5: could be. Because I'm thinking we're going back-to-back this year. Now,
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  Speaker 5: people are saying, oh, what about Carl Anthony Towns' contract
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  Speaker 5: extension and Josh Hart's contract extension? I think the Knicks
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  Speaker 5: are going to put all their differences aside this season, say,
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  Speaker 5: we are in our title window right now. Let's run
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  Speaker 5: it back. But, yes, this is an emotional day for me.
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  Speaker 5: This Celtics-Pistons game might as well not even be happening
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  Speaker 5: today for me. I've got the Liverpool Champions League game
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  Speaker 5: on instead. That's on my radar before Brian Scalabrini talking
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  Speaker 5: behind this Celtics bench ever would come.
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  Speaker 3: On my TV screen.
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  Speaker 4: Is that why you're wearing the long sleeve soccer jersey?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie. It's a really good look.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. This is last year's Liverpool kit. Kit, not jersey.
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  Speaker 4: No, I know, but you're just wearing the shirt, right?
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  Speaker 4: You're the jersey. You're not wearing the full kit.
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  Speaker 5: So I think they just call the entire, like if
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  Speaker 5: you're wearing the jersey, I think they just call the
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  Speaker 5: jersey the kit.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. They do. Confirmed.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: My concern with the Knicks, Taylor, and this is something
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  Speaker 4: you can't really predict other than maybe having some sort
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  Speaker 4: of history or track record of this, but their main
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  Speaker 4: four guys have played a lot of games the last
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  Speaker 4: three years.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. A lot of games.
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  Speaker 4: And again, not that you can predict injury, but when
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  Speaker 4: you combine the fact that both Josh Hart and Carl
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Towns are basically potentially going into lame duck seasons
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  Speaker 4: and going to be free agents next year, maybe aren't
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  Speaker 4: really thrilled with the organization. If they have even the
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  Speaker 4: slightest of injury, they're probably not going to play through it.
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  Speaker 4: Not for the organization that won't give them the extensions
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  Speaker 4: that they want and keep a good thing going. And
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  Speaker 4: so you might have some guys missing a decent amount
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  Speaker 4: of games. Now, that could be BS. It could just
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  Speaker 4: be all in good health. And then sort of that
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  Speaker 4: chemistry and that championship dynamic that they have will continue
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  Speaker 4: throughout the regular season. And obviously, Jalen Brunson can carry
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  Speaker 4: the team to a win in any fourth quarter. But
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  Speaker 4: I just have a feeling that some of those guys
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  Speaker 4: won't be as available as they have been. And that's
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  Speaker 4: just going to mess with your chemistry. And if it's
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson who somehow gets, you know, some sort of
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  Speaker 4: injury that leaves him out for an extended period of time,
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  Speaker 4: then you're looking at a team that might be in shambles.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: If you could just avoid the catastrophic injury. I think
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  Speaker 5: when you win the title, Mike Brown has has earned
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  Speaker 5: even more grace now to play some of the, these
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  Speaker 5: other bench guys where, you know, the, the, the theory
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  Speaker 5: of this Knicks team is if you get to the
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  Speaker 5: playoffs right now, you should have a title contending team
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  Speaker 5: because last season they proved it. You bring back nine
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  Speaker 5: of the top 10 guys in the rotation. So if it,
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  Speaker 5: if it takes, you know, pack home Dottie playing more
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  Speaker 5: minutes in the regular season, In the preseason, have you
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  Speaker 5: watched James Wiseman?
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  Speaker 4: I've watched James Wiseman.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. He's excited about it.
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  Speaker 7: That's the guy you're excited about? I thought Andre Drummond
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  Speaker 7: would do it for you. So I do like the
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  Speaker 7: idea of Andre Drummond. The problem with Andre Drummond, I
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  Speaker 7: think Andre Drummond's the oldest guy on this Knicks team
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  Speaker 7: at 33. James Wiseman, we're like a couple of years
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  Speaker 7: removed from him being a top five pick. James Wiseman's
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  Speaker 7: only 25. I could talk myself into James Wiseman being
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  Speaker 7: 10 times the player Mitchell Robinson was last season.
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  Speaker 3: Very easily.
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  Speaker 1: This is a guy coming off a championship season, man.
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  Speaker 1: He is talking about James Wiseman and thinking anyone's going
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  Speaker 1: to be great in that system.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations, Taylor. You are one of many who have fallen
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  Speaker 4: for the James Wiseman trick over the years. That's why
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  Speaker 4: he was the number two pick in the draft is
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  Speaker 4: because everybody sees them. And when, you know, when it's
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  Speaker 4: a preseason game, when it's a workout, when it's a
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  Speaker 4: college game, He's going to look pretty great. But I
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  Speaker 4: said top four guys. I meant top five guys, all
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  Speaker 4: five of those guys, especially, man, Mikael Bridges has to
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  Speaker 4: have some sort of injury at some point, right? Like
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  Speaker 4: that guy plays every single game. The last four seasons,
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  Speaker 4: he's played 82 games, no playoffs, 100 games, 101 games,
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  Speaker 4: and 94 games. That's a lot of games.
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  Speaker 1: There's also the possibility that none of them get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what it is you're saying. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like you're wishing injury upon our Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's just that seems to happen, like wear and tear,
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  Speaker 4: especially in the NBA for the teams that go deep
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  Speaker 4: into the playoffs consistently. It's just more of a compliment
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  Speaker 4: to the Knicks, really, because they have been in there,
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  Speaker 4: as Taylor said, a championship window. And sometimes the window
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  Speaker 4: slams right on your knee. And then you just never
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  Speaker 4: know what's going to happen. That would hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe a bad omen for the night. Liverpool just conceded
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  Speaker 5: a goal.
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  Speaker 4: Should have gone short sleeves.
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  Speaker 1: I like what Taylor's doing here. This year doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 1: They won the title last year. Even if they have
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  Speaker 1: a bad regular season, stumble into the playoffs. Perhaps they
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  Speaker 1: win it.
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  Speaker 3: They make a run. They get healthy at the right time.
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  Speaker 1: But this year is all about developing James Wiseman, about
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  Speaker 1: the young guys.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Kolek, Mo Diawara.
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  Speaker 4: What does Tyler Kolek have to do so that people
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  Speaker 4: know he's on the team as opposed to the way
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  Speaker 4: the police responded during the championship parade?
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  Speaker 5: Well, Tyler Kolek has the unfortunate. look of he kind
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  Speaker 5: of just looks like timothy chalamet like if you told
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  Speaker 5: me this guy's an a-list actor i would believe it
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  Speaker 5: more than i would believe you saying this guy's on
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  Speaker 5: the knicks.
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  Speaker 1: Uh izzy we are coming off we'll get back to
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  Speaker 1: the nba here uh we are coming off perhaps the
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  Speaker 1: greatest college football saturday of all time and a pretty
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  Speaker 1: decent sunday of football as well we discussed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it yesterday Do you have any thoughts from the
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  Speaker 1: football weekend here?
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  Speaker 4: I was locked in on this Saturday like that was
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  Speaker 4: a phenomenal. I couldn't decide whether I wanted the Hurricanes
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  Speaker 4: to win and pull that out and really sort of
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  Speaker 4: extend this, this, you know, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 4: this championship chase, because, you know, they've been on the
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  Speaker 4: verge of being back for so long. They obviously lost
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  Speaker 4: in the championship game. Last year, I thought it would
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  Speaker 4: have been kind of a real stinker for them to
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  Speaker 4: lose that game and then just be back in that
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  Speaker 4: same place where I was, oh, we'll prove it to
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  Speaker 4: you guys. We can recover from this. But I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: you guys talked a ton about this. But that ending
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  Speaker 4: drove me absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: Same, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Like, absolutely insane. The craziest part to me. is when
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  Speaker 4: you're listening to the ACC, I think it was ACC, right?
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  Speaker 4: Replay officials. And one of the guys in there adamantly says,
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  Speaker 4: I see right there the defensive player has control. And
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  Speaker 4: it's just like, where? What kind of eyes do you
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  Speaker 4: have that you see the defensive player having control of
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  Speaker 4: that football? And that was after the fact that they...
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was one of the worst holding calls
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  Speaker 4: in a key spot that I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: Terrible.
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  Speaker 4: And they had back-to-back what looked like potential catches, Hail
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  Speaker 4: Mary completions in the end zone, in which they still
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  Speaker 4: needed to convert a two-point conversion. So it's not like
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  Speaker 4: you're going to go into a third overtime then. Like,
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  Speaker 4: to me, all that stuff made it maddening, but it
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  Speaker 4: also felt like it was what, for the course of
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  Speaker 4: the college football season, the correct result was.
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  Speaker 1: Gino Toretto was on with us yesterday, won a Heisman Trophy,
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  Speaker 1: won two national championships at UM. He's a UM legend,
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  Speaker 1: and he thought Florida State got robbed. The idea that
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  Speaker 1: the refs get together, they're going up to New York,
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  Speaker 1: they're discussing it, and there's never even a mention. that
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  Speaker 1: the Florida State kid may have had control of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: to me is mesmerizing.
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  Speaker 3: It really is. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 5: Izzy, I almost don't even like that now we have
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  Speaker 5: the transparency of hearing what they're saying in the replay center.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to know.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, right. Because the replay center, it sounds like once
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  Speaker 5: they go to it, they're just confirming what they want
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  Speaker 5: to hear. respect to the sec because i love how
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  Speaker 5: everybody is like we're gonna let people listen in to
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  Speaker 5: our replay center and the sec was like absolutely not
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  Speaker 5: no you're not gonna hear yes how we're fixing these
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  Speaker 5: games i don't want to know.
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  Speaker 1: How the hot dogs are made man just give me
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  Speaker 1: a hot dog with mustard and a little kraut how.
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  Speaker 8: About that uh transparency sure not too much transparency i
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  Speaker 8: don't and yeah that it's it sounds like a mess
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  Speaker 8: by the way it sounds like it's chaotic it sounds
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  Speaker 8: like a household with seven children or everybody's trying to
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  Speaker 8: chime in at one time and i'm just like, who is,
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  Speaker 8: who is.
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  Speaker 4: Saying anything to not a single soul in there saying
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  Speaker 4: anything to the contrary.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, Oh yes, sir. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: There's it.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just, it's re it was really annoying to watch.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that caught watch.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that conversation, um, I think the conversation
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  Speaker 1: is based, what they're saying there is based off the
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  Speaker 1: call on the field, right?
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  Speaker 3: Um, But that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: If we're going to go to replay and we want
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  Speaker 1: to get it right, why not talk about the entire
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  Speaker 1: scope of the play and every single possibility that could
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  Speaker 1: have happened at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Of that play?
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  Speaker 4: Even the call on the play, Stu, did you see
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  Speaker 4: how long it took for the ref to make the call?
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  Speaker 4: He's looking, he's kind of peeking in under the bunch
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  Speaker 4: of people and it's just like, what are you looking
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  Speaker 4: for exactly? Because Possession could have changed five times underneath
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  Speaker 4: that huddle, that pile of people, and you're just waiting until, what,
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  Speaker 4: after the play to figure out who has the football?
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  Speaker 4: You've got to make the call once you see the
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  Speaker 4: ball come down.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, at times it seems like they're guessing.
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  Speaker 1: They know they have to make a call so they
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  Speaker 1: can establish the call, then go to the replay booth,
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  Speaker 1: who's only going to discuss the call that they made
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  Speaker 1: on the field, which is vastly important when you make
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  Speaker 1: the wrong call.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're not discussing other options. It's a mess.
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  Speaker 5: If we get to a situation where it's clear that
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  Speaker 5: we don't have a clear definitive side either way, what
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  Speaker 5: I am proposing, if I was college football's commissioner, one
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  Speaker 5: of my favorite shows growing up was Who Wants to
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  Speaker 5: Be a Millionaire? We asked the audience. And then the
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  Speaker 5: audience gets to decide.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It's a touchdown. It's not a touchdown. A lot of
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  Speaker 5: people in that situation would just factor in that. Completing
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  Speaker 5: two Hail Marys is kind of cool for Florida State.
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  Speaker 5: We want this game to continue. It's almost like that
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  Speaker 5: Buffalo Wild Wings commercial where you could extend the game.
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  Speaker 5: But we put out, because the replays already take like
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  Speaker 5: three minutes. What if there was a QR code that
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  Speaker 5: you scan on your screen and then it pops up?
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  Speaker 5: catch not a catch.
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  Speaker 1: That wouldn't take long i mean it would take the
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  Speaker 1: same amount of time i guess you're right.
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  Speaker 4: Yes the tv executives would love that because hey you
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  Speaker 4: want your team to win you better be locked in
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  Speaker 4: because at any given point wow i could go yeah
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  Speaker 4: i mean imagine like who's what who's watching the game
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  Speaker 4: more uh florida state fans or um fans in that
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  Speaker 4: situation you'll get that answer.
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  Speaker 1: Um don't we need to like i understand what you're
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  Speaker 1: saying i like the idea it's a good idea ask
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  Speaker 1: the audience But we can't just ask the entire audience, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be like a specialized 25, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a group of 25 fans, 12 Florida State, 12 Miami,
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  Speaker 1: one Rogue.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that. This is all willy-nilly. I don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: One of my other favorite shows growing up, American Idol.
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  Speaker 5: We had a situation like this, I believe, in season
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  Speaker 5: six where the voting got taken over, where they were
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  Speaker 5: just voting for the worst and people were like, how
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  Speaker 5: is Sanjaya going through all these rounds? He's very clearly
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  Speaker 5: the worst one. And it was like, no, America just
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  Speaker 5: took over. So in these situations, I think you just
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  Speaker 5: have to live with the rogue. possibility of if app
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  Speaker 5: state gets a couple calls their way against alabama the
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  Speaker 5: country might just want to vote for app state just
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  Speaker 5: because they're going up against alabama they will though sorry
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  Speaker 5: caitlin deborah.
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  Speaker 4: The other part about the weekend specifically on saturday that
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  Speaker 4: uh still lingers with me is okay we're done with
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  Speaker 4: uh this arch manning being the number one overall pick
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  Speaker 4: and being the dolphins uh franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback we're debating whether or not he gets chosen in
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  Speaker 1: the first round right we're transfers i i i.
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  Speaker 4: Have fallen in love stew I haven't watched this many
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  Speaker 4: highlight videos of a college football player since maybe Percy Harvin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Drew Mestemaker.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Yeah. He is the guy.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: He is the guy that everybody needs to keep losing for.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Titans defense and special teams, for winning that
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  Speaker 4: game against the Colts, even though I had a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of money on the Colts in that one. Thank
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  Speaker 4: you for helping. And who else? Somebody else doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a win other than the Dolphins, but... If the Dolphins
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  Speaker 4: end up with the number one pick, Drew Mestemaker feels
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  Speaker 4: like the quarterback I have been waiting my entire adult
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  Speaker 4: life for to replace Dan Marino.
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  Speaker 5: Izzy, I hate to pour cold water on you right here,
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  Speaker 5: but he's about to.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Last season, I said Fernando Mendoza was my was my
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  Speaker 5: quarterback to watch when he transferred to Indiana and then
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  Speaker 5: halfway through the season. Like the Captain Phillips, you kind
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  Speaker 5: of got on my boat and took it over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the captain now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Izzy, I'm the captain now-ed me with his Fernando
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  Speaker 5: Mendoza love. And then before this season, Izzy, Stu Gott said,
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  Speaker 5: try to guess it again. Who's going to be the
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  Speaker 5: breakout star? And I said Mestemaker.
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  Speaker 4: You could pour cold water on me all day. As
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  Speaker 4: long as the Dolphins get to draft him number one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care who's called it first.
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  Speaker 5: The problem was I said Mestemaker, and I said this
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  Speaker 5: Oklahoma State team could surprise a lot of people. And
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  Speaker 5: then they lost to Tulsa, and I sold all my stocks.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no. You got to get those back.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have any shares right now of Messmaker, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: That other winless team you were fishing for before.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: The Chargers.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Ah, yes. They got to win something.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Do they?
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: They have?
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, they might win Mastomaker.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 15:01
  Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, no.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I got you, Mark. Please, no.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: Jeremiah Smith and Justin Herbert. At that point, even I
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: can't make excuses for Justin Herbert.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: How do you know Jeremiah Smith wants to go to
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: He might pull an Eli.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Company live weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Listen, I told.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Israel Gutierrez, okay, borderline NBA Hall of Famer, loves the NBA.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: It's a big day for him. I said, hey, come
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: in today. It's opening day. And I said, the phone
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: lines are.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Going to be lit.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: And here we are, 26 minutes into the show, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: we don't have a single call in the NBA. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: so I am outraged. I am talking to you, the audience.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I told Izzy, and he came in here to do this.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: He trusted me. that he would have a full board
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: of calls about the NBA, and we have none. So
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: your penalty, until you call in at 877-99 on Fox,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: your penalty is us talking baseball.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, my baseball tics are kind of on fire, too.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Give them to us.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: All right, here, it's a uniform thing. If Tampa is
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: going to wear the Devil Rage throwbacks... then they can't
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: get mad when people call them the Devil Rays.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Like, I've gotten yelled at. Not really yelled at, but
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I've gotten scolded a couple of times. And, pal, they're
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: not the Devil Rays anymore. They're the Rays. Then you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: can't wear these anymore. You can't wear the old Devil
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Rays uniforms.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: You're right. Yes, I agree with that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: If you're going to wear the Tampa Bay Devil Ray
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: uniforms or really any retro uniforms, they haven't worn them
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: all season, though, have they?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you're asking the wrong person. Taylor, did they
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: wear them against the Yankees at all?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. I don't really think about the
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Rays uniforms. I don't really love these uniforms.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I don't like them either.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: No, but when they wear those uniforms, it makes you
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: think Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: And so if you call them that, I'm good with it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I liked when they had the green uniforms the best
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: and like the sleeves.
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I do remember those.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Those look nice.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Although I just don't know a whole lot about Tampa.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: It makes me think of like Johnny Gomes and like
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Scott Casimir.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not certain there's anyone on the planet who dislikes
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Tampa more than Israel Gutierrez.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Tampa. That Tampa doesn't know that we have. My
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: other take was about this Junior Caminero spin around the bases,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: his little stroll around the bases that included a shout-out.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Were they ever teammates, him and Randy? They were, right?
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Okay. Including that shout-out to him before he touched home plate. That,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: to me, was not even the most annoyingly long celebration
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: of the last 48 hours.
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Did you watch Houston Jacksonville in London Sunday morning?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I watched parts of it. Yes, I did. Like maybe
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the second half towards the end.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Of the game.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: So if you were watching when Travis Hunter scored his touchdown.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Good Lord.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Did he put on an entire song and dance that
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: probably lasted for the probably the length of Junior Caminero's
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: trip around the bases to the point where and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe they expected this because, you know, like
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing NFL players practice their celebrations. There was a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: tight end. I think it was number 85. I don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: know who's on the Jaguars. He came in to celebrate,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: noticed that Travis was probably not even halfway through his celebration.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And then it was like, yeah, I'm good. He turned
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: around and started going back to the bench. The rest
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: of the offensive line was just sitting there behind him. Like,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: come on, man. Can we get this over with? And
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: just when you think it's done, he's.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Got a little bit more. That's exactly the point. The
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: second it felt like the dance was going to end,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: he started doing a different dance. None of the dances
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: really flowed into each other. So it felt like, okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: this routine's over.
• 18:56
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Time to go into the next dance.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Was it Brandon Strange? That guy?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Is he number 85?
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Probably him. Now he had a smile on his face.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: He didn't like roll his eyes and say whatever, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: it was just, he knew this was going to take
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: a while and credit to Travis Hunter because like, and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I've done choreographed performances before, and to just have all
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: of that ready right off the rip and just go
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: through the entirety of it immediately on national television, camera
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: in your face, credit to that guy, but that was
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: way too long.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: 15 yards.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Give me a penalty.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Izzy, this stat comes from Sarah Langs. Junior Caminero took
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: 38.66 seconds to round the bases. It's the second slowest
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: time in the stat cast era ever. on an undisputed
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: home run.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Who was first, do they say?
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: That's a good question.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: The slowest?
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: No, they don't have the first.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I can't believe they keep that stat. Stat cast.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: A crazy stat to keep.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I wish it was longer. Oh, yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: If I hit that, like, I'm doing the same exact thing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Were people outraged by it, though? Like, hey, just get
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to home plate, step on it, and get in the dugout?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: So I have the answer for what the slowest is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: What is it?
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: It was Junior Cameron Arrow.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: Oh, no.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Really? 40.65 seconds, September 15th.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: In a regular season game against the A's, it was
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: a walk-off home run.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Against the A's.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, a walk-off. Walk-off, you can take your time, right?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: The game's over.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yes. That was strange. There was two innings left,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: and this guy's parading around the bases like he's already
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: in the World Series.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's exactly what I would do in that
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: situation where I'm watching Yandy Diaz's home run where he
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: hits the insurance runs in the ninth inning or the
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: eighth inning.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: My favorite part about that was they asked Cade Smith,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: who was the pitcher who gave up the home run
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: to Junior Caminero, like, what did you think about him showboating?
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: He said, it's not my style, but I guess if
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I don't like it, I shouldn't be giving up the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: home runs. That's the only answer you could give in
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: that situation.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: So I think we have stumbled upon a way to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: get phone calls on this show. It's by talking baseball.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. Let's go
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to Derek, who's in Vermont today.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Derek, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys.
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: I couldn't listen to baseball anymore, so.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't blame you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: My question for Izzy is who he thinks is going
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: to be a dark horse this year in the NBA.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: I think Toronto's got a good chance to make a
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: run in the East, but I just wanted to hear
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: what you had to say. I'll hang up and listen.
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: Thanks.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Derek.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting with Toronto, and I don't know
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: if I would even call them a dark horse because
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I think people think at their ceiling they're going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: be contenders, right? It's just a matter of whether— Kawhi
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: is going to play enough games, create any sort of chemistry.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Do he and Scottie Barnes vibe well together? You know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: what is Scottie like deep into the playoffs and a run?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Is he that reliable? I think they are, you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: amongst the darker horses. Yeah, weird sentence.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: They were the five seed in the East last year, right?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they were there. And they, you know, the
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: other team, I believe they played Cleveland in the first round, right?
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Because that is the other team. Now, it's hard to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: call Cleveland a dark horse, right? A couple years ago,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I think they were a 60-win team. Last year, they
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: dropped off a little bit, but still, you know, got
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: deep into the playoffs. I think Cleveland got better. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: think so. My answer to you is a couple of
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: teams that maybe people expect to drop off, maybe like
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: a Cleveland, maybe like a Detroit. I think both of
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: those teams are going to be actually better than a
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: lot of people expected. Like, I would not be shocked.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people would be, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if that's one, two in
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference, Cleveland and Detroit.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: You've got Cleveland with the continuity that they have, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: they add Peyton Watson, and I think he is just
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: a perfect fit for what they need at that small
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: forward spot, going to be better than Dean Wade was
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: for them, going to create a lot of fast-break opportunities,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: going to really— as long as James Harden allows them to
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: be a fast-break team and allows them to be a
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: good defensive team— That's a big if, yes. Yeah, it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: a huge if. He's got to be able to know
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: when to stop calling his own number.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Then I think Cleveland's going to be really, really good.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: And then I just think the Detroit Pistons, since they
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: happen to be on right now, I think even though
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: they've lost some people, right? Tobias Harris was a good
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: sort of steadying guy in the half court for them some.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I think they might be better than they were last year. Look,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I know everybody knows I'm a bit of an Assart-Thompson
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: twins homer. Right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: No one's ever loved them more.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: But, I mean, with good reason. I mean, they're very,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: very good. But I do think that he is going
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: to have a big leap in terms of offensive production
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: this season. If there's anything I learned from hanging out
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: with him a lot for the couple years before they
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: got drafted is that Assart doesn't– concede anything to his brother.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Everybody else thinks, oh, a man's going to be clearly
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the better player. I don't think he's just saying that
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: that's going to be true. I think Asar, with more
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: responsibility offensively, will show that he is the better offensive
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: player of the two because growing up and all the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: way up until they were drafted, Asar, from basically the
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: foul line down, was the better offensive player and from
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the three-point area was the better shooter. And so the
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: issue with him the first three seasons was he had
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: no consistency of when he was getting the ball, when
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: he was able to sort of create a look for
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: himself or for his teammates. And so he always looked rushed.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: He always looked a little nervous, and he always didn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: really have a go-to, whether it be move, area on
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the floor to go to. And so it looked super erratic,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and so you're not going to keep going to him. Now,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: not only has he gotten better, has he worked hard
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: on the offseason, But he will be given those responsibilities
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: because they paid him. They gave him a big contract extension.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: And so I think Detroit and Cleveland, if I'm going
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: to pick a couple of quote unquote surprises, those are
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: probably my two.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Izzy, I have a question. The first quarter in this
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Celtics game just ended. I'll steal the shine from Dan Beyer.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: It's 28-27 Boston Celtics. Jason Tatum with seven points. I'm
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: more confused about this Boston Celtics team after watching the
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: first quarter because I'm looking at the box score. Hugo
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Gonzalez didn't play in the first quarter.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Is that the case, huh?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: This is the guy that they wouldn't trade for Jalen Brown,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: and he can't even get off the bench before Sam
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Houser and Jordan Walsh is in their starting lineup.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: If you're going to keep him, you have to start him.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: What is going on?
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if there's an injury involved there or
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: if Missoula's trying to make a point because when I
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: watched him in the preseason, I thought he was very,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: very good. But my issue with the Celtics is just
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: in the big picture. Like, I don't know what they
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: think that they lost in Jalen Brown, but he is
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: an all NBA player and you're not going to be
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: able to replace him with Paul George and a couple
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: of people hoping to make a leap, right? Paul George's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: usage rate the last two seasons in Philly were the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: lowest they've been since 2012-13, which was his breakthrough season
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: when he won the most improved player. But in that season,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: he led the league in defensive win shares, meaning obviously
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: his impact was great on both sides of the floor. Now,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: his defensive numbers are nowhere near that. Someone even, I mean,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: unless he just happens to be feeling good that day,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: might even be something of a defensive liability at this age.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: And Last two seasons in Philly, he's played 41 games
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: and 37 games, respectively, and that included a 25-game suspension, Stu,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: for PED use that he said was a mental health situation,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and it's just like, okay, you're going to go into
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Boston now and try to recover and be what you
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: were four years ago after all of this? I just
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: don't see it, especially not to Jalen Brown's level on
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: both sides of the floor. So then you're absolutely relying
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: on on everybody else around you to just make shots, right?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, I believe, led the league last season in
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: two-point attempts. This year, without him, Paul George isn't going
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: to recreate that. And so, it's going to be more
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: of a let-it-fly season, like live-and-die-by-the-three than ever for the Celtics. Now,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: they do have a good situation in the middle. Their centers,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: if they stay healthy, Keita and Robinson, are going to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: give you very productive minutes, a lot of extra possessions,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: but You got to hope Mitchell Robinson stays healthy and
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: you got to hope those guys are still shooting the
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: threes at a high clip. And I just don't see
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: that over 82 games where like how much can you
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: really expect from Jason Tatum as the clear and away
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: number one guy? And he hasn't had to be that
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: basically his entire time next to Jalen Brown.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: How about this you go situation, though? I mean, seriously,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: how about you go in the game already? Let's go
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: out to Austin, who's in Phoenix today.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Austin, go ahead.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: What's up, guys?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Love the show.
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: I'm a Phoenix Dunn fan, so I just wanted to
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: get your guys' take on.
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: That and also what you guys think of the Devin
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: Booker situation, if he should stay at the point.
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: Or if he should go back to his old position.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Thanks, guys.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, man. The Devin Booker situation is interesting because I
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: think what happened on that Olympic team was he just
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: sort of realized that, hey, I'm really good as the
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: guy who will just do whatever the team needs, right?
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Like I can be, you know, Not the best way
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to put this, but, you know, a great role player.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And I'm with you. I forget the caller's name already. Austin,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Austin. I believe I think he needs
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to be that scorer first and foremost. I think he
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: needs to be the threat that other teams absolutely prepare
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: for and have to worry about every time down the floor.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: and aim to be a 30-point-a-game guy. Now, I do
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: think they're going to be, you know, sneaky decent again,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: especially in a Western conference. It's not as deep as
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: it always was. You know, Miles Bridges, Dylan Brooks, those guys.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Colin Gillespie, I think, has been sort of a revelation
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: over there. I think they're going to be a fun team,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: but they need to sort of be centralized. They need
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: to be around Devin Booker, not just as the playmaker,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: but as the scorer. And, I mean, I love that
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: dude's mid-range game. I love how high he gets on
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: his jumper, how difficult it is to defend him when
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: he's feeling it and just coming off one, two dribbles
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: and pulling up. And so, you know, they got Luke
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Kennard over there now. So I think they could be
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: not quite a Celtics of the Western Conference, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: think they can be a surprise team in the West.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Izzy has the nuance when it comes to the NBA.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: My only thoughts with this Phoenix Suns team, Austin. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: don't like the fact that Devin Booker changed his number
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: from 1 to 15. That's going to take some time
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: to get used to. I know he's doing it to
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: honor his dad who played at Missouri and his dad
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: was number 15.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I would have no idea that he changed it, to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: be honest with you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Devin Booker makes $ 57 million a year. I think every
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: fan who has a Devin Booker number one jersey that
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: money should come out of Devin Booker's.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Paycheck to get a new jersey.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: The old bait and switch. Let's go to James, who's
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: in Vegas today. James, go ahead. Before we break here,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Jimmy?
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Jimmy, go ahead.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Jimmy.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go.
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, you were talking about the showboating Travis Hunter.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: So I don't know if you guys saw last week,
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: you saw the interception against T.
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: Higgins, and he broke his ankles after he got the interception.
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Well, online, somebody made a meme of him doing that
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: dance in front of T.
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: Higgins, and it was the funniest meme of the week.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: So he was just copying that meme.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Now, that meme is annoying and played out now, but
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: that dance was very topical, actually.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Okay. I did not know that. I did not know.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, I'm guessing you're a little bit.
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: And does that dance in front of him.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Thank you, James. I'm guessing you're far younger than me,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and that's why you're so online and recognize that. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: everything that I said remains true. It was way too long,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and it was crazy impressive at the same time.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Company live weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Hugo's in the game now, is he?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: He listened to me. You go in the game already.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I think he started the second quarter.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: There you go. Luke Garza is also in.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Well, when I looked, I saw Luke Garza on the screen,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and I was like, wait, that's not Hugo. But, you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: could have fooled me.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Minus five to start his tenure here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Dan Beyer. It's 36-35. Pistons right now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The Celtics, I can't do play-by-play.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: They're trailing by four. 39-35 right now.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Uh 877 99 on fox that is 877 uh 99
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: on fox uh don't tempt me to go back to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: baseball okay because i will uh to all the listeners
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: out there i'll talk baseball until you call in about
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: basketball how about.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: That even worse i could talk liverpool they just equalize
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: this game two two.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: The equalizer two two at half yeah uh taylor i'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: starting to come around on day basketball here i gotta
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: be honest with you i.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Like it nice to have something on in the background
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: especially when it's not like a Ricardo watching like a
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Pirates-Reds game.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I am so glad the baseball season's almost over.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And baseball got the exact World Series they wanted.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Two best teams in the league.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the two worst markets. No, I have such a
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: problem with this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Collars, be ready.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Because every time we get a World Series like Brewers-Rays,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: people like Stugatz immediately start talking about how bad the
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: ratings are going to be. cares how bad the ratings
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: are going to be like as he said these are
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: the two best teams in baseball excuse me for not
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: caring about television ratings like the advertising revenue is coming
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: out of my pocket i'm a baseball fan i'm not
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: a television network shareholder.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You're a baseball fan who doesn't know if the rays
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: were wearing those uniforms the entire year i mean and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: i'll tell you who cares baseball Major League Baseball cares.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: They would prefer to have the Yankees and the Mets
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in the World Series or the Dodgers every single year.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not going to be a good
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: World Series. I'm rooting for Milwaukee. I'd like to see
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: them get it done. Me, like Izzy, I don't like Tampa.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: The consolation prize of getting two small markets, we got
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: the two best teams in baseball.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think people necessarily even just watch for uniforms
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: anymore or for big markets. Like, you're not drawing the
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Midwest just because the Dodgers are playing. It's because it
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: would have been Shohei Otani. It's because they have so
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: many stars on that team that you want to see
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: what they can do. I think the Brewers obviously have Mizorowski.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Mizorowski.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Say it with some confidence.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Say it with your chest.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: You got it right.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Mizorowski.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: NL Cy Young. And, I mean, I think he is
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: a phenomenal watch because it's just what?
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: What?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Because he's, you know, I don't understand how he gets
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: so much on that when he's such a thin frame.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: That one's really weird for me. But he's great to watch.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know who on the raise is really the draw, however, individually.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: If you wanted somebody to get excited about on the raise,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: it would be Freddy Peralta, who's had an incredible turnaround
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: where on the Mets, he had a 4-9 ERA. in
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: 22 starts before they traded him. And then on August 22nd,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: he had the worst qualified ERA in all of baseball.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: He goes to the Rays. They fix a couple of
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: his mechanics. Mechanics at the Mets say, hey, we were
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: aware of these. We tried to get him to fix it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: He wouldn't fix it when he was in New York.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: And then he goes to the Rays, and he's 2-0
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: in the ALCS with a. 75 ERA. He wins MVP there.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: And now it's a full circle moment for him because
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: he gets traded from the Brewers to the Mets and
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: then from the Mets to the Rays. and now he's
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: going back to Milwaukee to face his former team in
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: the World Series.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Eric in Phoenix is tired of us talking baseball. Eric
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in Phoenix, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: Hello, gentlemen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Love your show.
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: Hey, I just wanted to know if you think LeBron
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: is going to hang it up after this year, or
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: do you think he's going to go for 25 in
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: that championship? I can love my Lakers again now because
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: he's gone, but I'm done with him. I just want
• 34:54
  Speaker 11: to know how you guys feel. Hey, enjoy it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Have a good one. Yes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I think he signed the two-year deal, right?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I think he will fulfill the contract largely because I
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: don't think they win a championship this year. I am
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: intrigued by if they somehow do pull it off and
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: win the championship this year, would he be the type
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: to go out on top? And it does feel like
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: a LeBron thing to do, right? But he also could be, hey,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: what if I go out with two more championships? Because
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I just don't think if he gets number, what is this?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: This would be number five, right? You really think he's
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: going to miss out on a chance to hit six
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: and match Michael?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Ending on five is good, though. I mean, but think
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: about what... Ending on six is better.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Think about what a special kind of pain in the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: ass LeBron James has to be. He won a championship
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: at LA.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: And that guy.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: They never accepted him.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And the guy's like, he's happy he's gone. He won
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: him a championship.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Not only.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just... I don't think they could have
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: picked a worse star to put beside him than Luka.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Because you take the ball out of Luka's hands, he
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: is a non-effective player. Like, he has to have the
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: ball in his hands. Once you do put the ball
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: in his hands, he's an MVP. And so it just really— now,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: it obviously didn't limit LeBron. He still did a lot
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: of things. But in terms of, you know, long-term effectiveness, like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: it just wasn't the right fit for him anymore. And
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: nobody's going to turn down Luka Doncic in his prime.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Truka.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Is— Izzy, the way that Laker fans feel about LeBron
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: James is how LeBron James feels about the city of Philadelphia.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: He wants nothing to do with the.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: City of Philadelphia. He hates it. He just wants to
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: play 41 games there and get the hell out.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Slow down. Maybe 30. 30 home games.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I've gone too far.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a good question. No, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: don't think LeBron hangs it up this year. I just think,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: you know, unless something catastrophic happens health-wise... he's going to
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: feel like he's got another year under his belt. The
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: drop-off has been obvious because he was probably the best
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: player we've ever seen. But in terms of him being
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: able to contribute to a championship contender, especially one as
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: top-heavy as the Sixers are and assume they're going to
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: be for the next couple of years, I think that's
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: probably why he made the decision that he made because
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: he could maybe have missed 20 games and still be
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: on a team that's really, really good.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. Tom Haberstroh
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: going to join us in about 20 minutes here. Get
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you ready for the NBA season. Israel's here getting you
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: ready for the NBA season. And if you don't call,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: we'll talk baseball. Let's go out to Kelly, who is
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: in the state of Washington today.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Kelly, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio. What up, Steve?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Enjoy your show.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you. How are you?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, the sun is shining.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: The fall colors are beautiful.
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: Other than that, my question for.
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: Is, is do you think for real that the Sonics
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: will ever come back to Seattle?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Because honestly, I.
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: Really don't pay attention to the NBA anymore because my
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: team got stolen.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: So fair, fair question.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Do I think they will be back?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: It's interesting. I've been reading some stuff that makes it
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: seem a little questionable whether they'll be back or not.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I know the league likes the idea of having them back,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: but they're obviously making sure that it's got to be
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: more than just nostalgia. There's got to be money there.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: There's got to be an obvious.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Arena that they can fill up every single night. And so, yeah,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love to live in a world where
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: they're definitely going to be back. But I think, you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: the latest I've heard is that it's not a certainly
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: a sure thing. So, you know, that's not my favorite
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: discussion is the business of, you know, potential new franchises.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: But I mean, for the sake of the NBA, I
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: hope they are.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Guys, we have found ourselves in quite the pickle here.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Because we are threatening people to call in by threatening
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that we'll talk baseball.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And we have a call on the board, and he
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: wants to talk about baseball.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: So what do we do? Let's do it. He's fighting
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: fire with fire.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Let's do it. I think this caller is helping us
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: draw in more callers.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Let's go to John, who's in Michigan. John, go ahead.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Hey, Stuga.
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: How are you doing today?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, man?
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: Does the Fox Sports Channel have brief counseling for their announcers?
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: Because after the Dodgers lost.
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: The pennant to the.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Brewers, all I could picture was all the announcers getting
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: in their cars, driving up Highway 1 and driving off
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a cliff like a bunch of lemmings.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Charlie Steiner. Yes, I think Dodger announcers are probably happy
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: they get out early this year. You know, I don't know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: They need a break.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Yes. Less work. Right. Who doesn't want less work? Izzy,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: we were laughing earlier. 877-99 on Fox.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: We were laughing earlier, me and Taylor, during one of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the podcasts that we did before the show. about Dan
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Quinn and Jaden Daniels, that if you were a comedian,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you could not write it up any better than what
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: happened last night with Dan Quinn not knowing. A week
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: removed from that debacle against the New York Giants where
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a tie felt like a loss and Jaden Daniels looked
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: lost and the entire coaching staff looked terrible, okay? And
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: then six days later, They're in a showcase game, Monday
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Night Football, and Dan Quinn has no idea what down
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it is. They went for it on fourth. He wanted
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: to kick a field goal on fifth down. Jaden Daniels
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: had to remind him, hey, we just went for it
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: on fourth.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: And I threw it out of bounds on fourth down.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Well, help me out here, Taylor, because was there an
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: illegal shift there on that play? Because he's sort of
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: justifying it, saying he thought maybe they could go for
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: a field goal after a penalty or something like that.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I could— You know, I'm not a thousand percent sure. Look,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: if there's any real truth to that, that he didn't
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: know what down it was, I feel like people in
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that team would, would know that. And I feel like
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: you lose all respect for your coach in that situation.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: The problem though, with giving Dan Quinn, the benefit of
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: the doubt is we're coming off one of the most
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: inexcusable endings to a game where, where they let the
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: clock run out against the giants, where Dan, This was just,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: it's just such a bad look for Jaden Daniels. Like
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: it wasn't a legal shift, but the second that play
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: ends in a negative result for the commanders, the 49ers
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: are just going to decline the penalty and say, we're
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: taking the ball. Now, if you want to make the
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: excuse for Jaden Daniels, why Jaden Daniels throws the ball
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: away on fourth down, instead of letting his receiver have
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: a chance to make a play on the ball. Maybe
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: I'm willing to hear that where he thinks the flag
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: might be off sides. It's a free play. They're going
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: to get a first down anyways. Even then, like if
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: it's a free play, still just throw the ball up
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: to one of your receivers. And best case scenario, you
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: come down with a touchdown. Worst case scenario, you just
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: have to replay the down.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: They're thinking too much out there.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: We have sound of Dan Quinn being asked about that play.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Let's play it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: No, I definitely knew it was fourth down.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: We were going for it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: And I think what I'm referring to, I'm probably saying, like,
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: with the illegal shift, there's not a penalty to go
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: for a field goal. Like, it doesn't go, like, it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: the turn on downs. Like, I think somebody asked me,
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: can we kick a field goal? So, no, we were
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: going for it. We knew we had to go for
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: some fourth downs to be bold in the game. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: didn't think it was going to be a 17-14 game.
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: I probably thought it was going to need 28-30 to score,
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: you know, to go win it. And so it was
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: by design that we were going to go.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: But I knew what happened.
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: I think I was probably just commenting that I remember,
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: at least on the headset, somebody asked me after an
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: illegal shift, like it was turnover on downs.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Jaden saw the foul, too.
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: I think he also came out and saw the penalty.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I think somebody asked me, can we kick a field goal?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: So he's not the idiot. He's just surrounded by idiots
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: is what he's saying. Oh, can we can we kick
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: a field goal here? Are they going to accept that penalty?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: We did say earlier, if they were making the movie
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Dumb and Dumber based.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: On two NFL figures, it would be Dan Quinn and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: What drives me crazy when you I mean, Taylor, is
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels a mobile quarterback?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: So why don't they put him in position more often
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: to have a run option?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Elbow.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: They're afraid his arm is going to break.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: They are. They are afraid. He can slide.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: He can go out of bounds. But even that last
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: fourth down at the end of the game where he
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: chucked it to Stefan Diggs in the corner of the
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: end zone or the front of the end zone. why
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: don't you have an opportunity to pick up that first
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: down with your legs? Like he is supposed to be,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you know, Lamar Jackson-esque, and he does not look at
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: all like a player who has that ability this year,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: nor has he seemingly been put in positions in big
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: spots to be able.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It's just remarkable to me that Dan Quinn, a lifelong
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: football guy, has put himself in the position where after
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the game, people are asking him about elementary things.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Did you know what down it was? But he did
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: this to himself.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Honestly, his answer makes me think he's lying just because
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: under normal circumstances there, I don't care who you are,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: you would absolutely get super defensive there and just say,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: that's a ridiculous question. Of course I knew what down
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: it was. I don't care what people think, what I
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: said at the moment, lip readers, etc., Because his answer
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: was terrible.
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go out to Davey, who's in Virginia today, wants
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: to talk Laker basketball.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Davey, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Izzy, what do.
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: You think about the snow show in L.A.? Oh, man.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Is that what it's going to be? It's going to
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: be a race thing with the Lakers all year long?
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I guarantee you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: You know it's going to be like that all year long.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think they're going to be really good.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: If it's not Wemby, it's Luka. If both of those
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: guys play 65 plus games, it's going to be a
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: race to the MVP between those two. I think skinny
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Luka is going to be even better than he was
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: last year. I think Walker Kessler. I mean, I fell
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: in love with Walker Kessler in Utah and think he's
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: going to be sort of the perfect pairing with Luka.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: If he can stay healthy, especially defensively, he can really
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: protect the rim. I just think they're going to be excellent.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, he's got everything he needs around him. Um, obviously,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: you know, with, uh, why is his name is Austin
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Reeves with Austin Reeves there. If he can play all
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: star level basketball for the course of the season, I
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: think the Lakers are, you know, again, in a not
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: so deep Western conference, we'll almost guaranteed a top three seed,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: but could they sneak into that top two? I mean,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: if Luca's healthy enough, possibly.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Kevin Herter's a Piston?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Red Velvet.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: He was a.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Piston last year. He just ended the season injured.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: He just ended this half with a buzzer beater.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, now they're going to take it away here. I
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: think they are. Or maybe they're not.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: It's 58-48 going to halftime in Detroit. Celtics lead the Pistons.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And through one half, Izzy's wrong.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Through one half, my Celtics aren't going to be very good.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Does not look like a great prediction. However, not only
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: is it an 82-game season, if Paul George was ever
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: going to show up, it's going to be in the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: first couple of games.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Let's go to, oh, this is in our wheelhouse, Taylor,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: because we want to be the Carolina Panther experts.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Eli in North Carolina, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Hey, what's up again, guys? How are you?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: What's up, man?
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Listen, man, I mean, what a week. What a week, right?
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Every week, yes.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: I know Jalen Hurts, you know, I hope he gets
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: better soon, rest up soon, buddy. But, I mean, that
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: defense was still great, right? I mean, did Bryson look
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: wonderful or not against them? And how about them Oklahoma
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: City Thunder? I mean, games back on tonight, 9.30 Eastern time.
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: Let's get it, baby. Going to knock down them Spurs. SGA,
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: three MVPs coming soon, maybe?
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know about another MVP. That's a lot to
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: ask for. However, what I do think about the Thunder
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: is they are, You know, as long as they have
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: this group, as long as they have him leading the way,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: they're going to be a monster regular season team all
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the time. Whether they can, you know, complete the task
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: and beat the best of the best in every seven-game
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: series they play, that's a whole different question. And I
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: know there's questions about his eligibility. I don't know if
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: that's been updated yet, but Mara, the rookie from Michigan,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: if he can actually play for this team— They're going
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: to be even better because, I mean, he looked so
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: good in the preseason. And we all know Chet Holmgren
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: probably needs a bit of a boost because I think
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: his soul was taken last playoffs against Wemby. But, yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I think that team with Jay Williams healthy again and
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: everything that they've added. I mean, even Jared McCain for
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: a full season and everything he brings to that team.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Bennett Sturtz, if he can crack the rotation, seems to
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: be another great shooter to put around SGA. I think
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: they're going to be, you know, as good as everybody expects.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Taylor, what happened there?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like we were duped because he called in.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: He wanted to talk Carolina Panthers.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: It's our wheelhouse.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: On the call screen, it said Carolina Panthers.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: No one talks more Bryce Young and Jalen Coker than us.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, nobody.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: I only want to talk about Tedaroa McMillan. So, Izzy,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: we have been trying to become the Carolina Panthers show.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: I think we are.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: We are huge in Charlotte. And one of the listeners
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: wrote in saying that we should try to get Jake
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: DeLome on the show and Jake DeLome should be our
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: way in. because Jake Delome does game day broadcast for the,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: for the Panthers. And the listener suggested that we do
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: a segment with Jake Delome, a pick segment where he
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: has to pick between the Jake Delome team or the
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Jake Deloway team.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: That can't happen soon enough.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, I love that. You should just be the
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: show that just represents Charlotte all together because weren't we
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the first ones or maybe you, Taylor? They were going
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: for it, yeah. Yeah, Charlotte was going for it last year.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Well, that's how I know the Hornets are going for
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: it because I am so plugged in on what's going
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: on in the Queen City.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I think they're going to have a significant drop-off
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: this year. I know LaMelo Ball, some people thought he
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: was an issue. But, no, he was definitely an engine.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: And I just don't know if this deep Eastern Conference,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: if the Hornets are going to be going for.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: It I'm glad you brought him up. Do you think
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: that's going to work, him and Anthony Edwards together?
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to work for the ratings. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: think it's going to work for fun. I mean, even
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is the most interesting personality in the NBA since,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know what, Allen Iverson, maybe? Like, he's just
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: so much fun. And when he said recently that, you know,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: be ready when the Minnesota Timberwolves come into your town
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: because they're going to be on some BS. The entire season,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: they're going to be coming in with some hard fouls
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: and everything else. It's just like it's a great personality
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: pairing and a style of play. And what people don't
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: really understand is LaMelo Ball's got a great basketball IQ
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: for a point guard.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: He might be a little janky. He might be a
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: little tough to reel in as a head coach, but
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: he's got a great IQ. You pair him with a
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: guy MVP caliber player like Anthony Edwards. I think they're
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: going to be really good.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: We're going to have Tom Haberstroh in a second. I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: do not have enough time. We'll do it later in
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the week.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Tracy Wolfson and Josh Allen.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Izzy.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And we didn't get to the biggest baseball story of
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the day while we were trying to piss off the audience. Taylor,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: what is the biggest baseball story of the day here?
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Aaron Boone is returning for a 10th season. it's just
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: beating me down to a point where i really don't
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: even care like the running back yankees were a joke
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: aaron boone's 27 and 30 right in the postseason as
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: yankee manager we know how next season's gonna end we're
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: gonna win 90 plus games we'll probably come in second
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: in the division to somebody and then we'll get embarrassed
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: on our.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Way out of the playoffs and he'll be back but
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I have good news, okay? Put a smile on your face.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: The Knicks are raising a banner tonight.
• 50:46
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• 50:47
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• 50:49
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• 51:10
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• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Our thanks to Tom Haberstroh for joining us in that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: last segment. It seems, Taylor, like we have conflicting opinions
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: here on what the Celtics are going to do this year.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Izzy has them at best as a play-in team. Tom
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: thinks they might win an NBA championship.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be more right. No offense to our buddy, Tom.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Who do you side with? We have to keep track
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of this the entire year. I don't know why, but
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: we have to. Taylor, who do you side with? Who
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: do you think is going to be closer to being right?
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: I am going to side with the side of the
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Boston Celtics are going to be good this season.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Because they banked on Hugo Gonzalez taking a leap and
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: they put a ton of pressure on Hugo Gonzalez, where
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: the only reason LeBron James is in Philadelphia seemingly is
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: because the Celtics wouldn't give up Hugo Gonzalez. So I'm
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: banking on Hugo Gonzalez taking the leap because I don't
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: want to see him fail.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: But, Tom, you can be right and I can be
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: right because I think Hugo Gonzalez will make the leap
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: to the point where he's going to be top three
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: for most improved player. But that doesn't mean the entire
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: team is going to be good enough to be top six.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: A couple of people being right, cutting it up.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: How many steps would you say is equivalent to a leap?
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Like if I said Hugo Gonzalez takes a step.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: It's not as good as saying Hugo Gonzalez takes a leap.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: No, you're right.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: But if I say Hugo Gonzalez took 10 steps this year.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Does 10 steps.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Surpass a leap? I just think you need three steps
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: equal one leap.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, no, three big steps, though. Yeah, giant steps.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: You need a little bit of a running start, so
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: one step, two steps. Like the triple jump. The triple jump,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: there you go.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: What was your question? Is 10 steps a leap?
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: 10 steps is too many.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: 10 steps is smaller than a leap.
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Or bigger than a leap, I mean.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Well, no, but it's 10 small steps. I think Izzy
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: is saying three big steps with a jump.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: In the end.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: I never said they were small steps.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, just 10 steps.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Just 10 steps.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, put it on the poll. Does 10 steps equal
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: a leap? Ridiculous question.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: There are so many great sports documentaries on right now
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that I want to see that I haven't had the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: chance to see because I'm watching games all the time.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: The college football Saturday was as good as it gets.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I want to watch Saban. and I want to see
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the Tyson documentary. Have you seen either, Izzy?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I have no interest in watching the Saban one. The
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: commercials make me want to change a channel. But the
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Tyson one, I am, you know, two and a half
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: episodes in. I keep watching them at night and falling asleep.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Not that it's not good. It's very good. And one
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: of the things about... I don't know if this is
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: why you're asking, but I'm going to say it anyway.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: One of the things that make me... I just yelled
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: out loud to my TV, because I didn't know this.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if everybody knew this, but... When Mike
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Tyson lost to Buster Douglas in Tokyo, the night before
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: the fight, Bobby Brown, Mike Tyson's friend, had a concert.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Bobby Brown and Mike Tyson partied, according to Bobby Brown,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: like maniacs the night before because Mike Tyson didn't think
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: he would even have a chance at losing to Buster Douglas.
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: And, of course, famously, he did lose to Buster Douglas,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: his first loss.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: Shocking.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Keep Bobby Brown the hell away from our famous people,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: the people we love.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: He's clear.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of people blamed him for Whitney
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Houston's demise.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Just about everyone.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And we saw so unfortunately what happened to her.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, the Buster Douglas loss. You could
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: argue that Mike Tyson was on his way to a
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: downfall regardless because he was a little bit too inflated.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Of an ego. But man, that is far too much
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: of a coincidence.
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I keep Bobby Brown the heck away from our biggest
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: stars because nothing good is ever going to happen.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll. Do we need to
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: keep Bobby Brown away from our biggest stars?
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Like multiple arms distance. Keep that guy away.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I remember that it was so it was jarring. because Tyson,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I don't care how late he was out. I don't
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: care if he didn't sleep for seven days. I still
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: expected him to beat Buster Douglas and do it rather quickly,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: and we woke up in the morning to find out
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that Mike Tyson, who was deemed as unbeatable at the time,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: was beaten by an inferior opponent, and James Buster, well,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I guess he was defeated by Bobby Brown.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: He was. The interesting part, too, that I didn't remember
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: this either was that Buster Douglas' mom had passed away
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: maybe a week or two before the fight. So you have, like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: completely dueling levels of motivation. One is just like, I
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: don't care, I'm doing a bunch of drugs and hanging
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: out with Bobby Brown. And the other one wanting to
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: do it for his deceased mother. And so, you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: that outcome seemed like it was the fitting one. But
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: in terms of the documentary overall, it really is fantastic
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: because you see Mike Tyson for who he is today
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: and right now, and he's just so... sort of introspective.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Like his emotions come out when he doesn't want them
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: to even. And he's asking, you know, the cameraman to
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: stop the camera. And it's like a good documentary. And
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: he did not stop the camera. And you see a
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: lot of things just coming out of Mike that you
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: never would have expected to see. And again, I'm not
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: even all the way through this thing. And it's just,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: it's really, really good.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Taylor, put it on the poll. Who beat Mike Tyson
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: that night?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Buster Douglas or Bobby Brown?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: You could just see it in that fight, man.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: Bobby Brown might be undefeated.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: But keep him away. I'm with Izzy. Far, far away.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Before we get out of here, a bit of fun show. Izzy,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: thanks for coming in again. Working more. Weekend's getting shorter.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it. But quickly here.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Because Izzy's been walking around muttering during commercial breaks about
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Mario Cristobal and his four fingers.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Nothing that drives me crazier than this dude putting up
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: the fourth. And now he does it with both hands.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: So is it the eighth quarter? And what happens when
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: you win in overtime? Do the fourth quarter things no
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: longer matter? Like, come on, dude. There's got to be
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: a lot more for you to do heading into the
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter than staring into the crowd holding four fingers
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: on each hand like.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: You're... Especially in a close game, you have to have
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: more to be thinking about than, hey, I got to
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: put my fingers up because it's the fourth.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: We all know it's the fourth quarter. Coach!
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Izzy, I say this as a Miami hater. chris the
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: ball has completely won me over same here it's it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: sad to even say those words coming out of my
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: mouth don't even feel right it feels like i'm cursing
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: at my mother saying those.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Words what happened they got to a championship game you
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: saw how serious he was when he was on the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: college football show with us he is he's he's locked
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: in he's dialed in it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Was more so in the first couple years how much
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: he struggled at miami i was like oh yeah look
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: at this guy he's got his work cut out for
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: him and then he started recruiting his guys and building
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: along the offense and defensive lines and i'm like Uh-oh,
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: Miami might have a monster.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: He might be a good coach, but he is just
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: a terrible personality. I can't put up with the guy.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I can't. What's more annoying to you, his personality or
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: the fingers?
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, the fingers. Is it the eighth quarter? Why
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: are you putting up both hands?
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: It should have went to an eighth quarter. Florida State
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: was robbed. Have a good night, everyone.